WARNING Against the SCHOLARS | Ustadh AbdulAziz Al-Haqqan حفظه الله

[@OsamaM249]

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[@E.Cerulean]

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[@AISHAHALI05]

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[@UdruusJayyida]

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[@anouaressanoussi]

BarakAllahu fik ustadh

[@fatimaalshahabi5635]

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[@salafi1012]

Jazzakallahu kyrain ustead this was so necessary and well deserved as a reminder to the layman as this is so oftentimes a fitnah Allahu musta an

[@CourtOfKnowledge]

The very concept is so weird and scary. People are going to students of knowledge to ask them about the condition of the ulema…?! Always stick to the elder scholars oh people.

[@ابوآسيةالسويسري]

Students? the bar is low nowadays. Guys that cant even read the title of the book theyre teaching shouldnt be called students.

[@DarkPacmanC]

If the student is *trustworthy* & narrates *from* the trustworthy scholars, what's the problem?

[@CourtOfKnowledge]

@@DarkPacmanC the problem is 1. If a scholar criticised a particular scholar at a particular time due to a particular reason, a student transmitting this to others doesn’t have much benefit as the others do not know the situations that causes such criticism 2. Who decides who is trust worthy when transmitting 3. This type of transmission is abused by people with desires who use criticisms and apply it themselves, or use it in a way the scholar didn’t intend And on and on.

[@DarkPacmanC]

@iymuslim you weren't supposed to actually list problems with what I said, because there aren't any. This is a basic manhaj principle: the narration of a trustworthy, truthful, precise person is accepted. Otherwise, the deen falls apart, because why do you trust any authentic chain ever? 1. Obviously, if the person is trustworthy, this means they won't hide the context or the details & reasons & evidences. People who warn against someone without providing evidence *ever* are wrong & not trustworthy. However, if at one point they provided the evidence, & at another point they simply repeated the warning without the evidence, that's not blameworthy because their default position is not to hide. You can just search where they *originally* provided the evidence, or ask others who were there. But you don't ignore a general ruling that lacked evidence unless you've confirmed that it was *the first time* he spoke against that person. The Salaf had many, many statements where, if asked about a person, they would sometimes say one or two words: "innovator, beware", or "leave him", or "liar". We accept this from this back then & today because they're known to clarify with evidence as their default position if asked. 2. The scholars, plus our intellect. We are not blind-followers, so if a trustworthy scholar speaks on an person's condition, *you have every right to ask that scholar for his evidence* . Otherwise, *you're allowed to reject his statement for the lack of evidence* . However, if he gave the evidence, then you have to use your brain & agree with the truth or reject the falsehood. Major scholars don't usually just wake up overnight & lose their minds & start warning against people randomly with slander & zero evidence, *but if that were to happen* , you are mukallaf & are expected to use your brain & abandom him. But in principle, trustworthy scholara & students tell you who is trustworthy. This is known in the deen. 3. People who abuse the trust of the Muslims are not trustworthy, so that's not an issue with my comment. Yes, some people are devils in human clothing who love fitnah, so *when we use our brains* & see clear indications of fitnah (clarifying misguidance with evidence & public naseehah is *not* fitnah) we are meant to act rationally & abandon those devils. Otherwise, this is irrelevant to my point.

[@Nonameeeee12]

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[@UdruusJayyida]

Much much needed.

[@Umaymaa1]

New editor? Allahumma barik

[@E.Cerulean]

Same. Trying something new. جزاك الله خيرا وبارك الله فيك

[@Alysha177]

Is this about SPUBS

[@AdamibnAmro]

Assalamu alaikum w rahmatullahi w barakatu shaykhna with regards to warning against people is it for us if we have the qawl of a scholar to warn against those who they claim are ikhwanis for example turaifi or didu or is it best to not speak on such matters as we are very low students of knowledge?

[@Ermat3]

This is different Al turayfi and Al dedew are known ahlul bidaa. He is talking about warning against known salafi scholars or sheikhs.

[@kemokeita5737]

The sheikh didn't emphasise most on the other extreme ins sha Allah he will do a video about it, allahu allam. And those people are those who criticise sheikh rabee. They say we dont warn at all, even after proofs have been established.

[@parvezahmed4512]

Who we have to know

[@just_akh4694]

Spubs

[@KK2024-2-b]

I understood the intrical part of the msg and what ustaadh is trying to explain. But who are these people that he is warning about? How do i know as a beginner and how do i keep nyself away from them?

[@taimurahmad]

They arw known as spubs. Just avoid those people whose traits are mentioned

[@E.Cerulean]

​​​@@bilalalmurtaza2733He taught us a book of Shaykh Rabee its on the channel & often mentions him (and others) as one of our scholars, there is even a video about Sheikh Rabee on the channel... What are you talking about??! Subhan'Allah

[@Pehount]

Sa'afiqah, specifically the people at sPubs and their likes.

[@Fulaan7]

Don’t make things hard on yourself or learn about particular people and specific groups. This is how people fall into drama and spend their days warning instead of learning. May Allah safeguard you from it. You don’t need to know the specific individuals. Simply learn the traits that the ustadh has mentioned and keep away from people that have such traits. Study the books with the ustadh and slowly but surely things will make sense InshaAllah. Again, don’t fall into the trap of tryin to identify people and partake in this online fiasco. Imam Abdul-Karim Al-Jazari said: "A pious man never debates." Ahmad ibn Hanbal reported: Al-Hasan al-Basri, may Allah have mercy on him, heard some people arguing and he said, "By Allah! These are not but people who are bored with worship and they found speaking easier upon them than acting. Their piety diminished and thus they speak." Source: al-Zuhd li-Ahmad in Hanbal 1546 And remember this statement of Al Albani: Shaykh al-Albani said: "Be devoted, O Muslim, upon learning your Islam from the Book of your Lord and the Sunnah of your Prophet ‎ﷺ and do not say: 'So and so said! Indeed the truth is not known by its men, *rather know the truth (and) you'll know it's men* Source : Silsilatil Ahadith Al Saheehah 1/193 This is what you should do. Learn the truth by studying the books of the scholars, and then you will know the men of truth. And knowing the men of truth will expose the men of falsehood and evil. May Allah safeguard us all from every evil

[@lostinmind9974]

Some of them even made Tabdee' on Shaykh Salih As Suhaymee and warn against him. They also made mass tadhleel on people who supported Shaykh Muhammad bin Hadee and removed them from the fold of Ahlus Sunnah. They claim scholars like al Fawzan and Al Abbad dont know manhaj very well like their one or two scholars.

[@yeager9731]

I'm not sure about the rest but muhammad bin hadi was warned against by shiekh fawzan and shiekh rabee because of his slaunders against an innocent man... if you are referring to spubs, then you are mistaken. Spubs are supported by shiekh rabee al madhkhali and have been given tazkiyyah by the greatest ulema of our time.

[@anouaressanoussi]

​@@yeager9731Don't listen to spubs. Listen to the great scholars instead

[@lostinmind9974]

He wasn't warned against by Shaykh Salih Al Fawzan. Your group goes and says something to him, he gives fatwa based on that. Then another group goes and says the opposite, the shaykh will reply based on that. Some students clearly asked the shaykh whether he warned against Shaykh Muhammad, he clearly said no.

[@lostinmind9974]

Shaykh Muhammad's slander is over in the court. He's freed from the slander by the Shariah court, it was the final verdit. Stubborn and arrogant people like you all couldn't accept it. The leaders verdict is final when it comes to disputes during the prophet's time. Then, the court is given the task of judging between people in the place of the leader because of so many things a leader is busy with. This is simple Sharee'ah knowledge which you people lack.

[@lostinmind9974]

There's alot of politics in this issue. Shaykh Rabee is mistaken. And Allah knows best! Now disagreeing with Shaykh Rabee on this only issue, which is not even a fundamental take me out of Salafiyyah??? Think bro... Don't let spubs brainwash you. The criteria is following the fundamentals and how much a person wanted to follow the truth, everyone makes mistakes.

[@Mohamoud-rj2zi]

Assalamu aleikukum Should there not be somebody making an announcement to what should happen in Britain Muslims are fighting and attacking with the non Muslims

[@bilaalal-maghreebi5899]

As salaamu ‘alaykum. So if a major scholar warns against another major scholar with proof and a student of knowledge follows them in this then they are like the khawarij ya ustadh? Is that what you’re saying?Please clarify this speech and who you are referring to, because this is very confusing the comparison you’re making.

[@lostinmind9974]

See the way of Shuyookh Salih al Fawzan, Al Abbad, Salih As Suhaymee, Grand Mufthi and other past scholars like Bin Baaz, Al Uthaymeen, Al Albani رحمهم الله. Then check the scholars who have gone extreme in Al Jarh Wat Ta'deel. You will find the difference.

[@CourtOfKnowledge]

Clearly brother you hugely misunderstood the issue at hand. Ustadh is talking about those students of knowledge who, from following 1 or 2 scholars, belittle and eradicate the statuses of multiple major scholars. Such student of knowledge wasn’t qualified nor competent enough to understand the issue at hand, nor is it wise for him to transmit and impose this on beginner students of knowledge or new Muslims (as certain groups do). The entire methodology is corrupt and cultish

[@ابوآسيةالسويسري]

If you go against the ruler youre definitely upon the way of the khawarij. The same for the person that goes against the ruling of a judge.

[@CourtOfKnowledge]

@@ابوآسيةالسويسري You’re statement itself is wrong and incorrect. Someone can go against the ruler if he commands them to do what is haram. This doesn’t make them a khariji

[@John-rw6zp]

@user-yq2if6ld9h who's the ruler in this modern day? I live in the UK so ig my ruler is a kaffir.... kier stamer

[@interfaceking1137]

Salaam Alaikum, I have alot of respect for all the scholars, and students of knowledge. There was a Fitnah that happened with muhammad bin hadi, where some crazy accusations were made by him about some individuals, he was found guilty in the courts, stayed silent for some time, then came out slandering, other scholars and other students of knowledge. There wouldn't have been issues with Muhammad bin Hadi, if once he was found guilty that he repented and took everything back and left it there (as everyone makes mistakes, no one is free from mistakes except Allah), but he carried on slandering. May Allah Preserve all the scholars of the sunnah, like Shiekh Abdurazzaq al Badr, shiekh abdul muhsin al abbad, shiekh wasiullah Abbas, shiekh salih as suhaymi etc.

[@taimurahmad]

He has been clearwd by the sharii court. He made no allegations. Your abu iyaaf also made qadf then(vid on saafiqah exposef)

[@interfaceking1137]

@@taimurahmad the judge and scholars gave him the opportunity to write an apology, which he did, and everyone thought it ended there. However, he went quiet for some time then came out slandering scholars, students of knowledge and started praising deviants. I hate that things like this happen to people of ilm, especially someone that was as knowledgable as the shiekh. But it is unfair to say be careful of people that warn against him, there are scholars that tell their students be careful of him.

[@taimurahmad]

The FINAL sharii court ruling has been issued. Sheikh rabii said whoever opposes the official court ruling id not a salafi....

[@interfaceking1137]

@@taimurahmad I don't think anyone opposed the official court ruling. The shiekh wrote an apology and was accepted by the person and the mashayakh. But then came out few years later slandering mashayakh and students of knowledge.

[@interfaceking1137]

@@omanhakimi3321 if the shari'i courts rules something and the person has been given a solution, then we take that and accept it, especially if the person being accused accepts it. The issue is not to do with the court ruling, the issue is to do with what was done after apologizing.

[@reminders123-zv7hp]

Shouldn't they be mentioned? Because we don't know who ustadh is on about? (Or i don't)

[@E.Cerulean]

Just know the principle he is explaining, so you can apply it إن شاء الله (abandoning those who warn against the salafi scholars and salafi muslims)

[@husseinqo9]

Who is he talking about?

[@abdirahmanismail8498]

Spubs

[@husseinqo9]

@@abdirahmanismail8498 then he needs to stop lying. Spubs have not “dropped” nor “warned” against shaykh Abdul Muhsin Al Abbad. Shaykh rabee teaches his sunan Ibn majah weekly

[@SalafiDoctrine]

@@husseinqo9nor Abdil Muhsān al Abbād they literally post them

[@verysmartultrahuman939]

spubs hizbis, take notes

[@yeager9731]

No proof

[@mohammadiaa]

​@@yeager9731anime boi

[@verysmartultrahuman939]

@@yeager9731 man said london, non-arabic speakers, young, does tabdee' on ulama, might as well deliver abu khadeeja's home address. stop being hizbis man, spare us the mental illness.

[@mohammadiaa]

@@yeager9731proof for what?

[@yeager9731]

@verysmartultrahuman939 "young" does tabdee etc😂😂 you're wild kiddo you have no idea what you're talking about

[@MusaMills1]

To be fair they don't say don't sit with Shaikh Abdul Muhsin Al Abbad. But they have drank some serious koolaid and speak ill of prominent Ulama like Shaikh Muhammad Baazmool and Shaikh Saalih As Suhaimi.

[@Fulaan7]

May Allah be pleased with you and reward you for your efforts ustadh. Your WordPress and Telegram channel is excellent

[@MusaMills1]

@@Fulaan7 بارك الله فيك. و اسال الله أن يجعلني خيرا مما تظنون بي.

[@ابن_نعمان]

@@MusaMills1السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته. امين. Brother is the last dua you did something you came up with?

[@E.Cerulean]

@@ابن_نعمان I think it's "I ask Allah that He makes me better than what you think of me"

[@ابن_نعمان]

@@E.Cerulean بارك الله فيك Thats the translation, but as I know the dua is اللهمَ اجْعَلْنِي خَيْرًا مِمَّا يَظُنُّونَ وَاغْفِرْ لِي مَا لَا يَعْلَمُونَ وَلَا تُؤَاخِذْنِي بِمَا يَقُولُون. Idk if he meant that so i can remind him.

[@Ali_Imran_Khan]

Ajeeb, just stick to those who you judge to be reliable based on their Aqeeda & ilm and Aml. Without going into extreme with him so as to remove people from Islam (Salafiyah) solely because He doesn't follow that same person or said something against him. Respect the Ulama and stay away from their Disputes and leave which doesn't concern you. Seek Ilm and act upon it is our purpose of creation.

[@j3ts287]

Who exactly is he speaking about so I know who to avoid

[@John-rw6zp]

Salafi publications

[@اهل_التوحيد_والسنة]

Wdym​@@John-rw6zp

[@اهل_التوحيد_والسنة]

​@@John-rw6zpwhich salafi channels

[@mohammadiaa]

There's a uk organisation called SPUBS (Salafi Publications)@@اهل_التوحيد_والسنة

[@John-rw6zp]

@bulldzr2601 no the organisation is called salafi publications (spubs)

[@taimurahmad]

Also known as saafiqah..

[@IbnAisharadiAllahHuAnha]

you don't have a drop of ilm

[@SalafiDoctrine]

@@IbnAisharadiAllahHuAnhareal

[@ishaqbboy]

Saafiqah are rhe new khawarij.

[@ishaqbboy]

@@omanhakimi3321 Shaykh Abdur- Rahman Mohyideen Said: The Saa'fiqah of today are the Khawarij of today. They understand the speech of a person contrary to what he meant hence they go astray. Do not listen to them lest they lead you astray.

[@ishaqbboy]

@@omanhakimi3321 the names you took are these scholars or no?

[@ishaqbboy]

@@omanhakimi3321 my question has answer to your question.

[@ishaqbboy]

@@omanhakimi3321 so stop asking stupid questions then and don't put your nose in matters of our ulema.

[@ishaqbboy]

@@omanhakimi3321 proof? Send me from official sources. If he warned againt them for general public, then it should be on his official website.

[@An86115]

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[@somewaysomehowsomeone]

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