Warping in WARPLESS Speedruns

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#Kosmic #Speedrun #Breakdown

[@Kosmicd12]

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[@LunchMeatTrump]

Can't trust a company who didn't want to make a normal web address, or build a brand. Seems like some junk another company wants to get rid of asap then drop the name. Very sketchy.

[@suyashagrawal1102]

@@LunchMeatTrump wdym?

[@Senrath]

@@LunchMeatTrump What do you mean? They have a normal web address. The strms thing is literally just a link shortener from StreamElements and is unconnected with Factor.

[@LunchMeatTrump]

@@suyashagrawal1102 idk something about the name and web address seems off to me. It doesn't seem like a product that is being looked at long term. Did you order some?

[@Jay_Script]

@@LunchMeatTrump that's an affiliate link shortener URL for Kosmic. When you click on that link, he may get paid just for the click and additionally will get paid more when you use his discount code. The actual link is legit-looking once you click it.

[@IrisGalaxis]

Kosmic trying out that mango smoothie during that microwave autoscroller is something Badabun would do

[@SlashCrash_Studios]

Is this a meme at this point or are people still salty?

[@IrisGalaxis]

@@SlashCrash_Studios both I guess but more of a meme... Btw that guy issued an apology video

[@matttzzz2]

​@@SlashCrash_Studiosno one is salty. It is a meme.

[@ZaCloud-Animations___she-her]

​@@IrisGalaxisApology for what?

[@LeReubzRic]

Cheating ​@@ZaCloud-Animations___she-her

[@otakubullfrog1665]

It makes sense that there should always be a category that bans most or all the glitches since a lot of players are going to want to watch a run that looks like how they'd play the game (only better) and some of the glitchier runs can stray pretty far from that and make it hard to tell what's even going on, but I think most people would agree that Twin Galaxies tended to go too far. Entering the pipe in World 1-1 is something people do in regular play all the time.

[@GummieI]

Ever watched a speedrun of portal? That is straight up headache inducing, and impossible to see what is going on for sure xD

[@spimbles]

are people seriously that uninterested and bored in speedrunning that they just straight up ignore and refuse to indulge in the insane and jaw dropping ways people break games? i get being into glitchless runs but being confused and unwilling to learn whats happening in other runs and then going "its headache inducing" is just weird lol like what? if people really think such thoughts, just... watch an explanation video. dont call it headache inducing just because you dont know and refuse to know whats happening lol

[@GummieI]

@@spimbles Portal speed runs are headache inducing to watch regardless of if you understand what is going on or not.

[@JohnSmith-xv1tp]

@@spimbles I like a wide variety of speedruns, from the glitchless where it's just really good gameplay with fast movement, to flying through levels with seizure inducing levels of screen movement. But don't hate on people that like watching non-seizure inducing speedruns.

[@SayAhh]

Would you consider the flagpole clip a glitch?

[@-Keith-]

I figured that "no warps" refers to stage skips that were programmed into the game, and if people don't want wrong-warping in a particular category, it should fall under the umbrella of "no major glitches" since wrong-warping is an exploit rather than intended design.

[@deepintermission]

Schrodinger's warp is the best way I can describe some of the tricks in the later half of this video, honestly really cool and insightful video, great job!

[@redravenrages6321]

Haha… dinger…

[@TeamNinjaCats]

OoT Wrong Warp is definitely predated by MM's "Wrong Warp" where you would hover between the fairy fountains. It's not really a wrong warp, but it was called that for a very long time. I wouldn't be surprised if that one is further predated though.

[@Kosmicd12]

Lol that's true, so weird it was called FFWW. These days I think they call all of those "alt exit"

[@painkillers9852]

@@Kosmicd12 I dare you to try to beat smb in 4.54

[@kyawlinthan1415]

7:15 missed the chance to say "now that we're all on the same page"

[@Kosmicd12]

wow, you are so right

[@PierceArner]

I've gotta say that the sponsor ad RTA was amazing. Way to keep things amusing and unique to your content!

[@Mrnotpib]

Was unsure about not skipping the ad until I saw this comment. After watching it tho, I’m like “Okay that was cute. Carry on.”

[@taylorwoolston8856]

A sellout is still a sellout. As soon as I heard "thanks to Factor75", it was obvious that it was an ad. Skip.

[@PierceArner]

@@taylorwoolston8856 Ah, spoken like someone who has absolutely no grasp of working a job with ad-revenue based income, and the role of stable sponsorships helping provide security for that.

[@xposed1168]

@@PierceArner and woody or anyone else should care because ....? Screw ads and screw your income. It's not my job to fund you. Don't like it, stop making 'content'...millions of others, infact, I'd love to see a purge of pathetic trash farms on KZbin.

[@Starboundstreams]

Imagine thinking you can get by in today's world without making money to provide for yourself 💰 You obviously haven't left home yet. Good luck when you do :)

[@Blananas2]

I can't unsee how wrong (albeit ever so slightly) the upside-down pipes look.

[@Kosmicd12]

Same, I never really noticed and while making the video I had to keep checking that I didn't mess something up lol

[@taylorwoolston8856]

Maybe the warpless categories could be renamed to "No Warp Zones". Then a new "No Wrong Warp" category could be created.

[@samuelbirdwell3167]

7:15 he missed a golden opportunity to say "now that we're on the same page"

[@Tailstraw_xD]

Kosmic has a set of magic words. On occasion he'll softly say "You can't stop me." And then the laws of physics cease to be.

[@DavidWonn]

You can blame me for finding some of the weird warp glitches, notably the one in Castle Crush in DKC2, which has the potential to wipe saves and even worse if you're not careful. Also SMB2 (US) has a true 5th warp zone from W6-1 back to the start of 6-1 itself. And of course there are several weird ways to go back to previous levels in the early stages (mostly just for fun or to rack up on lives early), many of which are documented on my old site back in the 90s.

[@quadpad_music]

''A couple frame perfect fork stabs'' is one of my favorite things you've ever said, omg.

[@tarasj6908]

Its so funny that the subtitles think you say "WARPUS" instead of "warpless" xD

[@mikereynolds1368]

1:19 "the 1st warpless speedrun done in 1957 by andrewg" That speed run was so fast he went back in time! :D

[@julienbronsch5039]

I think he meant 19:57 As in how long it was

[@LukeSawardMusic]

man is dumb.

[@mikereynolds1368]

@@julienbronsch5039 hmm I wonder 🤔 Either way it's funny :)

[@taylorwoolston8856]

He very clearly said "The very first warpless run to be done in under 20 minutes, 19:57 by AndrewG". Stop twisting words.

[@Super_Top_Secret_Area]

AndrewG with an old man's voice: It all started many years ago, in the summer of 1957. Being a speedrunner was tough back then, since there was no internet to keep track of world records. In fact, Super Mario Bros. didn't exist yet, so we had to dress up as Mario and run as fast as we could.

[@FastIdiotBoss]

Lol Mario flying across 8-1 and C-3 with the animation spinning through the level is cracking me up

[@HeffeJeffe78]

Don't hurt yourself with those frame-perfect fork stabs now...

[@randomfax2264]

Super insightful and excellent editing, awesome video!

[@ElRectalo]

As I understand it? "warpless" is similar to "no major glitches", which means "Yes, there is a way to go faster, but it involves not having fun, and I want to have fun".

[@stucevevo8947]

Kinda like the star amount on sm64, some people like to do longer runs, some shorter, but the actual any% of the game isnt really playing the game

[@MemesbroOnScratch]

I thought the sponsor section was an actual section, and ended up laughing to myself when it was actually a sponsor. Great Job!

[@papabaddad]

Running with your own rules could also lead to you popularizing a new category, which is rad!

[@finminder2928]

Actually loved seeing a speedrun of the ad. Would love to see a full run!

[@SPY-ce8qf]

I love how speedrunning is getting so popular. This is like one of those "Top 10 insane moments" type of videos but still having the quality of the documentary type speedrunning videos that are so popular.

[@drmarioprojectm1510]

Would Twin Galaxies allow the use of fast acceleration where Mario goes faster in the direction opposite the one he's facing since it's not a glitch?

[@EebstertheGreat]

No. But they might have eventually changed their minds on that. They had some really bizarre ideas about glitches back in the day. Anything a runner did that looked surprising or was different from normal gameplay was likely to be labeled a "glitch," typically by people who knew almost nothing about the game.

[@drmarioprojectm1510]

@@EebstertheGreat Seeing as it allows Mario to reach running speed faster. and I'd have filled my run with EXTREMELY aggressive Bowser kills by use of Fire Mario, since it skips the animation of the bridge collapsing.

[@diegodankquixote-wry3242]

I don't give any credence to any of Twin galaxies speedruns should be ruled after it was shown how corrupted they were with the Billy and Todd stuff. There are likely even more cheated and flat out fake speedruns from other people on the site which no one has yet to look into yet.

[@gazeboist4535]

Category extension: warpmost - complete SM2J as fast as possible while executing the greatest possible number of unique warps.

[@SuperDorrie994]

Great video, you taught me something new! Thank you for making this

[@NullScar]

Sorry Kosmic, but I believe you were wrong in that statement about the plastic being the boss. In my opinion, the final boss is the dishes you have to do after the meal-run.. I might be wrong, but I'm just a loose cannon..

[@TheLastWanderingBard]

Thanks for showcasing some of the more technical explanations, Kosmic. Another game that has some legendary wrong warps is Final Fantasy 7. There's actually two major wrong warps, plus a bunch of minor ones that aren't used in speedruns but can still do funny stuff. 4-8 Productions (a well-known FF speedrunner and challenge runner) has done multiple videos explaining them with tech details that I couldn't do justice to, for people who are interested.

[@IcebergDocs]

Another great video Kosmic! I love how you break things down so you dont even have to have played the games to understand whats going on. Good stuff as always man!

[@21380]

3:58 Sagila's Cave from Rygar 😍😍😍😍

[@kickstartavalanche]

Great video I want to watch more all levels speedruns now!

[@CaptainMangles]

4:08 Dude I love this jump!

[@SailorLoonie]

I love how you do your sponsored segments Kosmic c: They're very entertaining

[@septimustache6359]

While you were speedrunning Lunch, I was speerunning that ad.

[@GladiatorFromTds]

The lunch speedrun is probally the first good sponsored segment that i ever saw.

[@vitanpatel2061]

I didn't expect this video to be as interesting as it was when i begun

[@Blucario90]

To be fair, SMBs Warpless is less No Warps and more All Levels

[@weenis6]

you literally make the best possible content, and the best thing is that its always about my favorite franchise: Mario. keep up the good work, dude

[@PussTheCatInBoots]

bro really did a speedrun on lunch 💀

[@AlbertTheGamer-gk7sn]

By the way, the Devil's Spell is discovered by Marionaire and is used in his Super Mario Bros. The Lost Levels Germaphobic Speedrunner's Edition (Super Mario Bros. Speed Expiation 2) TAS where he is forced to use the 8-1 and C-1 wrong warps due to time constrain.

[@williamdowling7718]

The auto generated captions kept saying "warpus runs" every time you said "warpless runs" and it made me chuckle.

[@kbramlett6877]

In reference to your comment regarding the DKC Warp glitch, this triggered my memory and remembered reading about this trick/glitch in Nintendo Power when I was a kid. I went to the site The Cutting Room Floor and they verified my memory. Here is a quote from their Donkey Kong Country page regarding this glitch. In Kongo Jungle, passing over a corner and attempting to "enter" it as a level, with the right timing, warped you to a barrel in Orang-utan Gang that had no purpose otherwise. This glitch was removed from v1.1 & v1.2. One thing about cartridges from yesteryear, when the developers made updates to the ROM, you could not tell which version you had by simply looking at the cartridge. There are two different ways, that I am aware of, to discover which version you had. 1) Not being able to perform a trick/glitch on one copy of a game, but not on another. 2) The Game Genie. If there were two different versions of the ROM, then there were usually two different codes for the same effect. (eg. infinite lives)

[@Shmover34]

The mango smoothie floored me great stuff

[@TransRoofKorean]

12:45 - 16:15 I'll always think that was the best era for video games. They're still so beautiful just to look at.

[@jasonrenard798]

I loved this video! Your add was funny too congrats on your PB for lunch time. =3

[@jiminboo]

Thank you for using Sagila’s Cave theme… so good and well underused

[@isprobablyjobhunting]

Really cool video. Also, i think its really neat when this happens...yesterday i was wondering where "wrong warp" originated.

[@its_4life]

Probably the best sponsor break I've ever watched

[@ramiel555]

man, I remember accidentally doing the DKC wrong warp back when I was a kid, it blew my freakin mind that I was just walkin on the map then suddenly BAM, in the middle of a level like 2 worlds ahead :O I wasn't even sure what I did, just knew I was pushin buttons while on the path between levels, eventually managed to do it again and figured it out a little bit more. Makes me wonder who's credited for finding it, lol

[@jdanpey]

You are so stinking smart I learn a lot from you. Good work!!

[@ZachGatesHere]

I love these little bite size lessons on game mechanics. It also just shows how arbitrary and silly the rules can be.

[@vlogerhood]

Welcome back!

[@atti_odyssey]

Love your videos and fantastic video!!

[@DoctorSwellman]

This was an interesting topic to cover. Great vid Kosmic!

[@Margen67]

Lizards need HUGS

[@theepiccarrot7]

ok this is actually really interesting your content is fascinating i never knew these things!

[@bryantnonya8704]

Those fork stabs on the meal kit missed a frame rule my guy 😂

[@flibidydibidy]

Great video - great animations! Awesome :-)

[@srgaming8598]

Loved the prime music in the video!

[@tigheklory]

Yay! A new Kosmic video!!

[@Pentazer]

Holy crap, I love game/speed run mechanics vids.

[@Margen67]

birb

[@yyattt]

DKC reverse boss order sounds hilarious

[@roygoodhand1301]

Here's a good idea. BOTH! Boom, new category!

[@Nob1ej0n]

Freaking KZbin. It waited 10 days to tell me there was another analysis video. Anyway, great stuff! And I appreciated that there were several games analyzed. Not something I'd call for every time, but it gave some good flavor to see how these ideas compare in different games and communities in this context.

[@rainbowsprinklez]

Really good job!

[@MrMcAyyy]

I love the timer on your sponsor spot! XD

[@MrMcAyyy]

Great video! I've seen a fair amount of these but it was fun to watch through again.

[@TranslucentGanon]

I think one of the most interesting deliberations and final desicion is the case of whether memory storage/IST should be allowed in Breath of the Wild speedruns. The final ruling is that the save that the items are being transferred from is also timed.

[@JakeRazorClawson]

Very entertaining vid. Actually watched a speedrun of smb2u for the first time recently and was very confused, but it seems oddly clear now. Lots of interesting tech info.

[@Mike_359]

Nice video! Thank you

[@Adriethyl]

I've always assumed the "warpless" category was about the hidden world pipes and not about the pipes that take you to sub-areas.

[@comp.lex4]

My favorite thing in speedrunning is when some new strategy gets found, or some controversy emerges, and the final decision is to make a new category to accommodate it. It's just such a cool way to deal with accusations around cheating-- "on our leaderboard, that's cheating, but congrats on your new world record in another category!" Just nice.

[@angeldude101]

CrossCode has wrong warps done by saving the game while passing through a loading screen, and then reloading, which still puts you in the intended room, but at the entrance saved from the previous room. It and a few other major glitches are banned in "No Menu Glitches." What really makes it notable, at least to me, is the fact that you can wrong warp into the DLC epilogue, since the entrance leading to the new area is already active and can be warped to, even if covered by a cliff. It's not even a credits warp, but it _still_ manages to skip the (base game) final boss, and almost everything else due to how early it can be done.

[@TheFriok]

1:42 Lunch speedrun lets go

[@Kurachi84]

12:30 Yeah, it was best that way, imo. Otherwise it'd be called "all worlds". I love seeing tricks and glitches in games!

[@iwersonsch5131]

There's an SM64 romhack called Ztar Attack 2, and the leaderboards have an Any% category and a Warpless category. In the Any% category you can use both hidden warps and wrong warps, in the Warpless category you can't use either. The way the Any% run works is that you talk to a pink bob-omb in world 2-4, which mistakenly opens a door to one of the last few levels in the overworld's warp zone (and to get to 2-4 in the first place, you use intended warps)

[@staudinga]

Dan Salvato is a Patreon supporter of yours? Neat. (also I didn't know you did DKC2 speedruns)

[@jonlaw16]

2:20 shout-out to Kosmic for his Crazy Daisy (aka spring blossom) Corelle plates.

[@QuarioQuario54321]

One last piece of irony: The reason why the area is so high in B-4 is because it is the same area as the warp to World C in A-3.

[@QuasarEE]

That DKC footage with the weird awful cylindrical effect applied to it almost made me sick and that pretty much never happens to me. 🤢

[@slokoolbounz]

More crazy techniques found by the master.

[@albertorkenbjorken]

THERE YOU ARE!! i was seriously starting to worry about you!

[@bradwurst8141]

What a charming ad read

[@Oakshield2]

lol that was the best food ad ever

[@SergioVargas-vg2oc]

Fantastic!

[@maxwellreading-6652]

You don’t get to stop time until you finish the whole meal

[@neilt82]

Fascinating video. I'm guessing that the "entrance page" is the reason for the quirk in world D-1 of the All-Night Nippon version of SMB where exiting that level's coin heaven sends the player to a copy of the latter half of D-2? All-Night Nippon's world D-1 is basically just 8-1 from SMB2J but with a beanstalk leading to a coin heaven added in. I'm assuming that the coin heaven has no proper exit defined due to an oversight and just recycles whatever's already stored in memory. It'd be really interesting to see a study of that too, I reckon. 🤔

[@Kosmicd12]

I never knew about that :o

[@neilt82]

@@Kosmicd12 Yeah, it definitely seems like a developer oversight to me. I've never actually played All-Night Nippon, sadly, but I know about the D-1 thing from level maps. It doesn't seem to have been particularly discussed online, as far as I can find, though. I also notice from playthrough videos that the repositioned springboard in world 2-1 seems to have a habit of not spawning due to the sprite limit. Loving your videos as always, Kosmic. Best regards. 👍

[@mrlucasftw42]

Fast Claps on the ad theming!

[@coyrex1250]

When he said Andrew Gs 1957 run i thought he was making a joke that it was a long time ago. Except he was saying the time...

[@ujkloin]

this is how to make a spnsored segment interesting

[@mjl167]

metroid prime music... you are so frickin cool man

[@Muzzino]

"Warp-less" like "glitch-less" Mirror's Edge runs

[@TheJmack90]

I can’t unsee the upside down pipes!! 😳

[@TransRoofKorean]

10/10 transition into ad

[@voltsu]

1:19 The only thing I picked up from this statement was that the year 1957 was 16 years ago. And I won't question it.

[@taylorwoolston8856]

He didn't say it was in 1957. He said it was "The very first warpless run to be done in under 20 minutes, 19:57 by AndrewG".

[@WhiteThumbs]

Isn't the Chris Houlihan blue ruby room in Zelda: a link to the past , a wrong warp? I found it as a kid and it was a contest for a fans name to make a cave drop you there if you wrong warped. That's the earliest one I know

[@rumpleforeskin5607]

Did you really fail to get record 12 times in Super Mario warpless, and then still have the gumption to go fer it and get it after that? That's crazy man, your a legend!

[@Margen67]

Dinosaurs need HUGS

[@nugboy420]

4:20 song is from rygar correct? I love this

[@Kosmicd12]

Yes!! All the real ones know

[@trayson]

im just here for that warpless factor_ speedrun (is that WR?)!

[@jayjasespud]

4:21 Yo shoutouts to Rygar

[@Mosk915]

I’m surprised there was no mention of the SMB3 wrong warp.

[@Kosmicd12]

I think that's a little different since they all work by ACE, right?