Warranty Claim 2009 Audi B8 A4 2.0T Quattro Oil Consumption | GetInspected 0010

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Excessive Oil Consumption, over 1 Liter per 300 Kms... this engine was pulled apart by a reputable garage, the problem was that the engine was burning oil, more than the upper allowed limit for those engines. the piston rings were replaced as well as the guides for the timing chain, along with a tensioner for the chain and some other miscellaneous parts.
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@Playboysmurf1
@Playboysmurf1 5 жыл бұрын
Less than 1 month ago, I purchased a 2010 A4 2.0T with 37,00km. In the second week it went in for a gearbox warning. Ended up being a valve body repair. Now at end of my first month owning an Audi it has consumed 1litre in 500km. It is under observation for excessive consumption. I thought Germans were perfectionists, guess I was wrong.
@revinot
@revinot 5 жыл бұрын
Known problem with the oil consumption on the earlier B8's. Due to oval shaped pistons in the earlier ones I believe.
@TheTactical6string
@TheTactical6string 5 жыл бұрын
The oil issues are a serious problem! My 2010 with 95K was going threw a quart per 150 miles, yes thats correct every 150 miles. The piston rings are to small for the cylinder and you''ll need to replace all the pistons and rings (rings are .5mm bigger then original), also the rear main seals leak and should be replaced. AUDI did address this in a half hearted recall but a dealer will not cover it unless you have all the service records AND all the work was done at an Audi dealer. Its a big deal and youre looking at an engine rebuild basically. Expect it to be from $2500-$4k to have done, the parts are probably $800-$1100 of that, you mind as well replace the timing chain tensioner and other parts while youre in there. Then you will need to clear out you Cat converter, all that oil being passed threw the exhaust isnt a good thing. Thankfully there are products like CataClean which are designed to help burn off the deposits in there. Im still dealing with that issue and the engine light comes on still from time to time P0420 which is a Catalytic sensor issue. The A4 is a super fun car to drive and is unlike any other Ive driven, if you live in snow country these are almost like recreational vehicles as theyre so stable and controllable if you do spin out. I will always say tho you need real snow tires, no all-seasons will be safe if you plan on optimal control. Also to note is that the rims from older audi's tend to not fit the 09's and up, the hub is a different diameter so be careful if you're looking to pick up an extra set of rims for Summer or Winter use. And lastly be careful with the hood latch release, it can easily come out of its track leaving you unable to open the hood without getting under the car and its just a shitty thing to deal with. On a positive note, I bought one of those UpGR8 air filters for less then 10 bucks on Amazon and its a quality filter for less then a crap paper one costs and has def aided in how my car runs
@amirelnakhloul
@amirelnakhloul 2 жыл бұрын
hello! I have a 2010 audi a3 1.8TFSI with CDAA engine. I have the error of excessive oil consumption?
@piston10
@piston10 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, mate. Really interesting. My Q5 2.0 TFSI was also consuming a lot of engine oil.. about 1 litre every 3,000km. But what broke the engine was the timing skipped. My mechanic took the engine apart and saw the valves were bent as a result of the piston hitting them on the up cycle when the timing jumped. The timing chain tensioner could be the culprit which I'll get him to change anyways.. but what's interesting is the orange looking timing chain guide that you showed in your video as being cracked/broken. I need to get me mechanic to check that as well as he might've missed it. Very disappointed with Audi. The engine has only done 50,000km.
@frankb7449
@frankb7449 7 жыл бұрын
My 2009 A4 that I bought from Audi Fairfield as a CPO has been burning oil ever since I bought it. I brought it back 2K miles after I bought it but Audi kept denying responsibility... Now that there was a Class Action settlement, Audi of America is willing to charge me half of the $6K to replace the piston rings. This is total BS. I keep getting the run around. Audi won't do the right thing, even though they lost a class action law suit - still giving me a hard time... German engineering is BS... DON"T BUY an AUDI... I own an S5 and an A4 and am furious at how Audi is treating me. They don't want to take responsiblity for their defective design which has been a problem ever since they sold me the car. I asked the service manager for the prior service history and they don't have it. They were willing to Certify the car when I bought it, but now they won't fix what has been wrong ever since I owned it. Stay away... Audi Fairfield says talk to Audi of America... Audi of America says it's not their problem - they will only cover $3K out of a $6K service to fix a defect that they are 100% responsible for... Try talking to anybody higher up and they pretend their is nobody to talk to...
@stephenmaloneskates
@stephenmaloneskates 6 жыл бұрын
Frank B they probably only want to pay 3k because that’s what the dealerships “cost” is for the parts and labor, they’re willing to fix the problem for people, just not willing to pay twice the price because the dealership is up charging...
@riccccccardo
@riccccccardo 6 жыл бұрын
Frank B I feel your pain. My A4 B7 TFSI oil light goes off 2-3 time a year outside service had loads heated talks with Audi and they tell me it's within tolerance. I hate this annoying the hell out of me never experienced a car like this before. Also my only chain pump went on it destroying bottom of engine Audi was a pain in the ass in the end they only gave me a discount so I paid around £3000 to fix even though the part not a derive part good old German engineering.
@humanentity2214
@humanentity2214 6 жыл бұрын
Frank B hmmmm sorry to hear that. They replaced my car's piston rings without any cost to me and I'm out of warranty as well. I would suggest rechecking with dealership. You should not have to pay a penny since it's manufacturer issue.
@andrewwaxman2724
@andrewwaxman2724 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Frank, You stated they lost the class action suite. Is that why they accepted responsibility for up to 8 years 80k miles? Because I just missed that... My CPO was originally sold in September of 09. I purchased it in September of 12. By the time I found out about the EXTENDED WARRANTY (yeah right) it was April of 18. I finished paying off this car in September of 17...
@buddyanddaisy123
@buddyanddaisy123 6 жыл бұрын
Wow..it is like these cars have designed-in defects! Modern engines should not have such problems.
@remingtontreich9986
@remingtontreich9986 4 жыл бұрын
I was so confused when the block was still in the car because I know that you have to remove the whole engine to take off the upper oil pan because the rear main seal is connected to the block and the upper oil pan, but at 5:37 you can see where he ripped the rear main seal apart from the upper oil pan.
@CarInspected
@CarInspected 3 жыл бұрын
We only did the inspection on the work and it was not appropriate. We were hoping that the mechanics knew what they were doing.
@remingtontreich9986
@remingtontreich9986 3 жыл бұрын
Car Inspected lol I’m just trying to understand how you ripped it off though
@CarInspected
@CarInspected 3 жыл бұрын
We did not do the repair. We just inspected the car at that day. Guys, please read the previous comments... @Remington Treich, we did not carry out the work, so we have no idea.
@remingtontreich9986
@remingtontreich9986 3 жыл бұрын
Car Inspected o ok
@cengizosman4642
@cengizosman4642 7 жыл бұрын
please make more videos but with more details about the Audi a 4
@buddyanddaisy123
@buddyanddaisy123 7 жыл бұрын
Looks like the AUDI piston design is similar to SATURN S series-oil burning happens because the oil retention ring gets stuck (carbon buildup). I've been able to fix by using Rotella full synthetic (cleans out all the carbon).
@rickyhernandez6195
@rickyhernandez6195 5 жыл бұрын
But what if the audi isnt diesel
@cammgt3rs370
@cammgt3rs370 5 жыл бұрын
@@rickyhernandez6195 5w40 Shell T6 Rotella is also unleaded fuel friendly. Thick is heck though.
@eliasbutcher859
@eliasbutcher859 4 жыл бұрын
Camm GTR so will it hurt my engine because it’s thick?
@katarzynawusek2328
@katarzynawusek2328 8 жыл бұрын
Hi there. There is no way to take off the upper pan without damaging rear seal flange. Engine out and flywheel need to be taken off. So your video is just messing peoples mind.
@Dubrovnik82
@Dubrovnik82 6 жыл бұрын
;) I just wanted to ask same thing :) To repair only pistons/rings head doesnt need to be in 2pieces... cams and cam cover can stay . When you are working in factory warranty U only chaniging pistons and rings and some litlle pieces that can be used again....
@yourunknownapple
@yourunknownapple 6 жыл бұрын
lol they destroyed the rear main seal. dont know what the hell they are doing
@cliveyoung3619
@cliveyoung3619 5 жыл бұрын
i was wondering the same thing. I have the engine on the stand in my garage with the flywheel off and wanted to ask how they got the pan off without removing the screws from the RMS flange? I cant quite pause the video in the right spot to see how they did it.
@fedmelo
@fedmelo 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I had seen your comment before. I spent three days trying to do the job this way. One entire day was trying to remove the crankcase with no success. Now I know the rear seal flange holds the block and the crankcase together. I spent a lot of time due to this video bad infirmation. Please know that there is no way to remove pistons without removing engine from transmission.
@cell1569
@cell1569 7 жыл бұрын
at 3:41 you can see made damage at rear main seal flange, its done for easy removal upper oil pan, was 2 bolts hold it, plus flange also has silicon, so haw can you put back together without proper installation those bolts ? just packing silicon ? crappy job, saved time to not remove engine and not installing new rear main seal. you can save time to not remove VALVE COVER, all head bolts accessible from special halls, plus now has to deal with variable valve height units
@fedmelo
@fedmelo 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I had seen your comment before. I spent three days trying to do the job this way. One entire day was trying to remove the crankcase with no success. Now I know the rear seal flange holds the block and the crankcase together. I spent a lot of time due to this video bad infirmation. Please know that there is no way to remove pistons without removing engine from transmission.
@Matt888884
@Matt888884 8 жыл бұрын
1 liter oil per 300km on 140,000 km engine, is that the issue Audi has to fix for free due to the failed piston size the engineers got payed but failed to deliver ? The engine works fine but the pistons have a bit gap with the cylinder wall and oil slips into the combustion chamber. On 1st,2nd and 3rd gear the Pistons shake cuz of that gap and creates a lack of torque, but from the 4th gears up to 8, the engine works fine and smooth and you can achieve the highest speeds of +200km/hr with the turbo working on the side so fine. I already changed the PCV valve to the AC version and the oil has stopped spitting from the muffler but it already damaged the turbo and probably the intercooler. Oil passing through the PCV valve into the air intake and turbo and leaking through the turbo gaskets into the intercooler on to the plastic air manifold, throttle body, and cylinder. Always carbon buildup in these parts Just due to a bad PCV valve that has a weak spring and a weak diaphragm that can't tolerate a high vacuum. Thats another engineering flaw. But I can't handout 10000 $ to rip the engine and change the Pistons because of a engineer that didn't do his work in professional manner. The reviews on 2.0T will go on and Audi has to pay the price of a drop in thier Yearly Revenue.
@littleborat1969
@littleborat1969 7 жыл бұрын
I also drive a 2009 Audi A4 2.0T Quattro and at around 149,000 miles the engine just started making more noise than before. It sounds like something might be clogged. Also whenever I turn on the vehicle, the engine seems to be wobbling and it doesn't automatically go below 1000 rpms. I wait until it does so, then does the engine sound a little more stable and ready to go. However, it still is making a lot more noise than it should. Any thoughts? Advice?
@elvelozpr
@elvelozpr 7 жыл бұрын
Daniel Kogut you might have the timing chain tensioner going bad, their is a modified one if not changed prior..and would get a DTC code P0016
@trnstyles
@trnstyles 6 жыл бұрын
I had the same issue and Bell Audi covered the replacement. Car has to be under 80,000 miles for them to do it for free.
@sapientbudgie5652
@sapientbudgie5652 7 жыл бұрын
Where are you located in Toronto? What was the cost to the owners fix? Mileage?
@ionutionica
@ionutionica 6 жыл бұрын
hey, nice vid, but what about the oil filter, how often it was changed or in what condicion is it, now that you took the engine apart. and what brand of oil filter was used, if this is knowed. thank's.
@MrIAME3
@MrIAME3 6 жыл бұрын
Hello can anyone tell me does the timing chain come part of the institution for the oil consumption problem
@humanentity2214
@humanentity2214 6 жыл бұрын
MrIAME3 it's considered best practice by dealership to replace the timing chain when they replace piston rings
@teespeed
@teespeed 5 жыл бұрын
WHAT A HACK JOB!! at 5:37 you can see the rear main seal flange was ruined, by pulling the oil pan off extremely hard w/2 bolts still attached. Your suppose to remove the transmission, or remove the engine, to access those two bolts. But instead, chose Extreme short cut, and probably charged top dollar for that job. I wouldn't take my enemie's car to you guys...
@CarInspected
@CarInspected 5 жыл бұрын
We (Car Inspected) documented the work, we DID NOT DO THE WORK!!... did you read any of the previous comments????
@fedmelo
@fedmelo 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I had seen your comment before. I spent three days trying to do the job this way. One entire day was trying to remove the crankcase with no success. Now I know the rear seal flange holds the block and the crankcase together. I spent a lot of time due to this video bad infirmation. Please know that there is no way to remove pistons without removing engine from transmission.
@gabrielpaulus8799
@gabrielpaulus8799 4 жыл бұрын
I am here in namibia working on a a4 1.8t ...my problem is the upper oil pan. It is totaly refusing to be removed at the back...seems i have to remove the engine block..😔
@CarInspected
@CarInspected 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, what is the upper oil pan?
@kevinalexander8670
@kevinalexander8670 6 жыл бұрын
I’m going to buy a Audi A4 just like this one but how can I make sure it doesn’t have this issue?
@autoartemis6679
@autoartemis6679 5 жыл бұрын
Check the engine code, I know the CDNC and some other 2.0TFSI engines that have this problem, also the 177hp 2.0 TDI have the same problem, but only the 177hp not the other 2.0 TDIs
@eliasbutcher859
@eliasbutcher859 4 жыл бұрын
Tony Stark 2012 doesn’t have this issue
@eliasbutcher859
@eliasbutcher859 4 жыл бұрын
Tony Stark 😂😂 Merry Christmas lol. I’m not as fortunate, I have a 2009, which oil consumption isn’t a crazy amount but still something I’m looking into. Other people on here must not inspect cars at all before they buy them.
@IamMagPie
@IamMagPie 6 жыл бұрын
Considering buying an Audi A4 2,0 TFSI Quattro. How can an oil pan rust? Is it (cast) iron? On my MINI it is aluminium. Also: removing the air condition to take out parts of the engine? And you have to drain and refill the freon gas also? What happened to the "Vorsprung durch Technik"?
@pauljanssen2624
@pauljanssen2624 3 жыл бұрын
You take a wire brush clean the rust off paint it and the problem unless the oil plug is severely stripped
@MrBiku
@MrBiku 7 жыл бұрын
What is the exact model of this engine? I am considering to get one 2007 quattro but some engines like BUL and others have only problems with balancing shaft but no oil consumption. If I may ask what engine is this? Not a big fan of VW cars but still willing to get one.
@eliasbutcher859
@eliasbutcher859 4 жыл бұрын
Biku Bista CAEB is the model.
@csuzib4536
@csuzib4536 4 жыл бұрын
Hello guys,is it true that this problem was only pre-2012 Audis?
@CarInspected
@CarInspected 4 жыл бұрын
In the canadian market, yes, you are correct, the majority of the oil consumption problems were present in the pre 2012 engine production dates.
@jonfklein
@jonfklein 8 жыл бұрын
Was this engine the CAEB model? The CAEB is the model with the high oil consumption problems that led to a class action lawsuit in the USA, and Audi agreeing to repair the engines to fix the problem. Just want to know if this is one of those engines.
@filippoparentini5936
@filippoparentini5936 8 жыл бұрын
Hi, the car was burning oil....... but was the engine power still the same?
@ages1292
@ages1292 5 жыл бұрын
Please reply, I have 11 Q5, warranty was done at 79k miles. New pistons, new cam, new timing chain. 8k after rebuilding at audi dealer, lower radiator hose bust loose, spark plug broke, compression is 25,69,50,0. Dealership says needs new head. Any comment?
@ages1292
@ages1292 5 жыл бұрын
@@CarInspected yes at 79k they replaced pistons, cam, and timing chain kit including all tensioner, I'm curious why that hose came loose? But the spark plug metal part that goes inside the cylinder was broke off. They initially said it was my fault, it overheated, and I apparently drove it hot... but that was false. I'm trying to find out what really happened.
@elvagcars6816
@elvagcars6816 4 жыл бұрын
Did you see his ring piece
@liyangtime
@liyangtime 7 жыл бұрын
How do you know the black tail pipe is oil, but not running rich~I have a car that has a black tail. I am trying to understand is it running rich or burning oil, I know oil is burning a little bit , maybe a third of one Qt every 5K miles.
@Boradub1
@Boradub1 6 жыл бұрын
Mr. Yang - I have a 2006 Audi A4 2.0T and I get black tail pipe too. On my vehicle it comes from Carbon deposits and when I clean my intake valves of carbon buildup. A lot of smoke comes out the tailpipe. Hence the black sutt on my tailpipe.
@JacanaProductions
@JacanaProductions 5 жыл бұрын
Can you tell me if Addie replace the engine on a 2009 they will fix this issue? Looking at a 2009 Audi event 60 5K new engine at 60 K for 12 grand.
@CarInspected
@CarInspected 5 жыл бұрын
from what we've experienced so far, audi normally replaces the pistons and the piston rings on those engines (they also replace the oil separator with a couple of other parts/seals, and reprogram the ECM / ECU to accomodate for the extra crank case vacuum created by the new PCV). you will have to see when the work was done (what year), as the timing chain and tensioner may need to be replaced. if the work was done by Audi, then chances are, the oil consumption issue is most likely repaired. you mentioned the engine was redone at 60 000 Miles? what's the current mileage of the vehicle you are interested in??
@JacanaProductions
@JacanaProductions 5 жыл бұрын
65k@@CarInspected
@CarInspected
@CarInspected 5 жыл бұрын
@@JacanaProductions So the work was done 5000 Miles ago, is there any oil consumption now? there shouldn't be if the work was done correctly. the mileage is relatively low (for north american average annual mileage).
@mwood1164
@mwood1164 8 жыл бұрын
how did you remove the upper pan with the trans still attached to the motor? doesn't the rear seal flange need to come off to remove the upper pan? would really like to know as I'm about to do this job on an a4 with a caeb motor.
@timmclean2317
@timmclean2317 7 жыл бұрын
ya he didnt mention how he broke that plate to save time of pulling engine and doing job the proper way,he talks all hi tec about other stuff but fails to mention how he broke the cust car and now the rear seal cover cant be bolted again.why post video showing how he broke car to save time DONT DO THE JOB IF YOU CANT DO IT PROPER,GUYS LIKE YOU MAKE PROFESSIONALS LIKE ME LOOK BAD POSTING SHIT WORK LIKE YOU HAVE DONE HERE
@TassieLorenzo
@TassieLorenzo 6 жыл бұрын
The guys making the video are not mechanics, they are just videoing for the customer.
@fedmelo
@fedmelo 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I had seen your comment before. I spent three days trying to do the job this way. One entire day was trying to remove the crankcase with no success. Now I know the rear seal flange holds the block and the crankcase together. I spent a lot of time due to this video bad infirmation. Please know that there is no way to remove pistons without removing engine from transmission.
@dasb00t999
@dasb00t999 7 жыл бұрын
How did the spark plugs look on the cylinders with the cracked rings? Clean or fouled with oil?
@dasb00t999
@dasb00t999 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Peppermint1
@Peppermint1 6 жыл бұрын
Wasn't the high oil consumption associated with a faulty PCV design?
@sarmadaldulaimi7963
@sarmadaldulaimi7963 3 жыл бұрын
How did you remove the oil pan without removing the rear main seal ?
@CarInspected
@CarInspected 3 жыл бұрын
We did an inspection on the vehicle in question (we didn't do the repairs). It seems like it wasn't done correctly, and the rear main seal had to be replaced.
@arad2946
@arad2946 8 жыл бұрын
I have Audi a4 1.8 and just now i started the car, the engine started shaking. when I accelerate, black smoke comes out of the exhaust. do i have the same problem? the acceleration is decreased by the way.
@devinthierault
@devinthierault 8 жыл бұрын
+Car Inspected could also be something making it run to rich right?
@devinthierault
@devinthierault 8 жыл бұрын
+Devin Tariel too
@akira8614
@akira8614 7 жыл бұрын
if its a 1.8 tfsi from the years between 2008 and 2012. yep, you got the same problem. better get it fixed or you can buy a whole new engine.
@danielali214
@danielali214 8 жыл бұрын
nice video im dealing with Audi now with my 2010 A5. Question does the oil issue affect the turbocharger?
@RafaelLopez-xj1th
@RafaelLopez-xj1th 6 жыл бұрын
D. Ali what happened bro ? I have the same care same issue
@TheSonyjoseph
@TheSonyjoseph 4 жыл бұрын
Of course. Partially combusted oil and the exhaust smoke can build up in turbocharger which inhibits its rotation, which alsoblocks the CAT, which indeed makes a back pressure and kills turbo's shaft bearing. Also the EGR will recirculate this smoke with oil particles will block egr valve thus mess the intake system.
@narcissistinjurygiver2932
@narcissistinjurygiver2932 5 жыл бұрын
is this the same eng that is in the 08 jetta turbo 2.0?
@CarInspected
@CarInspected 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, This is an Audi A4 2009 CAEB 2.0L turbo Engine (CAEB is the engine code), It's CHAIN driven (i.e. it does NOT have a timing belt, it has a timing CHAIN). We hope that this helps.
@nipshardaf
@nipshardaf 7 жыл бұрын
How much will a work like this cost? Im thinking at least 3k?
@andyhuang7526
@andyhuang7526 3 жыл бұрын
More like $5000-6000 !
@andyhuang7526
@andyhuang7526 3 жыл бұрын
Did Audi extended the warranty on those vehicles. From which year to which ?
@CarInspected
@CarInspected 3 жыл бұрын
The extended warranty is country dependent ... and the warranty coverage is also different depending on the region/country. In Canada, the settlement seems to partially cover repairs up to 160 000km (higher percentage of repair expense is covered if the repair was done at an Audi dealership), but please verify what the rules are for your region
@RMPT6
@RMPT6 4 жыл бұрын
Did they fixed the problem after 2012 with the facelift model?
@CarInspected
@CarInspected 4 жыл бұрын
Yes the oil consumption (piston/ring design) problem was fixed for the 2012 and up
@christopherthomas5972
@christopherthomas5972 4 жыл бұрын
Hack........ Was here for knowledge thanks for hacking the rear main seal
@tranqdbear
@tranqdbear 7 жыл бұрын
So how much does all of this cost because my A4 is having the same problem
@memadmax69
@memadmax69 7 жыл бұрын
Its a warranty thing. Contact a Dealership.
@DJR5280
@DJR5280 6 жыл бұрын
guyanaguy7512. Did you ever get a quote ?
@elsanfranfan
@elsanfranfan 6 жыл бұрын
DJR5280 Audi of San Francisco said the short block rebuild of my 2011 A4 would be $8000. But the extended warranty for this issue covered it.
@DJR5280
@DJR5280 6 жыл бұрын
m.a. c. Audi of Denver is being really good about this and taking care of the problem.
@humanentity2214
@humanentity2214 6 жыл бұрын
guyanaguy7512 should not cost you anything even if you are out of warranty. This is manufacturer issue and the class action lawsuit should cover the repairs for you
@MrSensible2
@MrSensible2 8 жыл бұрын
Did you ever find an explanation as to WHY these oil control rings were breaking? Generally the oil control rings don't see massively high temperature or pressure so the only things I could think of if that the rings were either too thin or too tight in the bores. I read that Audi ultimately fixed the excessive oil loss issue with a redesign of the piston/ring pack/con-rod assembly. Did you notice any difference between the old (broken) bits and the new bits you repaired the engine with? Thanks.
@rayford21
@rayford21 7 жыл бұрын
Audi is smart. They don't fix anything that was their fault after 2 years and only do so when the courts tell them they have to.
@jonsimmons4150
@jonsimmons4150 6 жыл бұрын
thinner piston rings for less friction, thus more power= so then horsepower and performance can be vaunted in advertising. cheaping out on the quality, trying to get the part at the cheapest price.these combined get the shown results. they have clearly overstepped the capabilitys of the piston ring package. this is all known technology, and validated decades ago. my 002cts.
@raya4393
@raya4393 8 жыл бұрын
I noticed you said replacing the chain tensioner is part of the oil consumption fix and my Audi A5 is in the shop for the same reason but the dealer is making me pay for the tensioner and some other parts, is that right or its included?
@Federer2001
@Federer2001 6 жыл бұрын
if they're going to take off the cover and replacing the chain, you might as well replace the guides and tensioner because their already working in there.
@autoartemis6679
@autoartemis6679 5 жыл бұрын
Rehman A The chain and tensioner has problems itself on this engine, it has nothing to do with the oil consumption but that the chain stretches itself over time which is a problem. You might as well change it too!
@nick2var
@nick2var 6 жыл бұрын
Hello and great job on this video! I've seen some things I've questioned as I have faced same problem with my 1.8 I would like to ask you: After these rings are replaced how many km are needed for the engine to get back to a decent and appropriate oil consumption. I have replaced mine and after 4500 I still have big oil consumption. The turbo is checked and it doesn't have a problem. I would appreciate it if you gave me a hint... Thanks
@nick2var
@nick2var 6 жыл бұрын
Car Inspected I don't know if my mechanic did this. I sure have to ask. I believe we have a lot more to do as it doesn't seem normal.... To me at least. Thank you very much for the response!
@viyasansabesharasah4099
@viyasansabesharasah4099 6 жыл бұрын
I see the Iron Ring #Engineer !!
@anthaz3076
@anthaz3076 6 жыл бұрын
Had a 2010 78k kms run 1.8T A4 here in the Middle East! I had the exact problem! 1 liter of oil every 400 kms! GOT RID OF IT!!
@rayford21
@rayford21 7 жыл бұрын
What a piece of crap!!! Those rings must have been made with the same defective German plastic as their tensioners and delicate head bolts. All this junk for an unbelievable over priced device...Can't call this a reliable car by any means.
@vinitygill
@vinitygill 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Car Inspection team, thank you for posting the video. I have only one question, is it possible to remove all 4 pistons without removing the engine from Gearbox ? I noticed in your video, engine is intact and connected to gearbox. many thanks in advance for your reply.
@USABOSS357
@USABOSS357 5 жыл бұрын
Hi there, did you have to remove the engine from gearbox?! I'm working on the car and I have issue removing upper oil pen ?! thanks
@shahzadqayum3678
@shahzadqayum3678 4 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know if u can change a b9 engine into a b8.5 car ??
@CarInspected
@CarInspected 4 жыл бұрын
Good question. We hope that someone here, or on forums (such as audizine, or vwvortex) can answer
@AdrianMendoza-xu5uj
@AdrianMendoza-xu5uj 5 жыл бұрын
You replaced just the rings correct? The same pistons and connecting rods were used? Also, did you install the 2.5mm thickness rings or the same 1.5mm OEM? That is outlined in the below link: www.euromechanica.com.au/blog/vag-2-0l-tfsi-oil-consumption
@CarInspected
@CarInspected 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, The pistons were completely replaced, the new ones were part number 06H107065AM which did not need connecting rod and wrist pin replacement (21mm pin diameter). you can see the pistons in more details in this video we took, by the way, the oil control ring does not look like the one in the link you provided, it's thicker, but looks like the original one.
@AdrianMendoza-xu5uj
@AdrianMendoza-xu5uj 5 жыл бұрын
@@CarInspected Hello, Thanks for the reply and yes I did watch the video. Are you aware of the part number for a VW MK5 GTI 2.0T FSI engine with BPY engine code? Thanks
@CarInspected
@CarInspected 5 жыл бұрын
@@AdrianMendoza-xu5uj hi, not sure about the BPY engines, but try looking them up on ETKA (google it), and once the correct part number is found, then look it up at ecstuning dot com (to get prices and brands etc.).
@AdrianMendoza-xu5uj
@AdrianMendoza-xu5uj 5 жыл бұрын
@@CarInspectedYes, I believe I found the part number for the BPY engine code. Thanks for the support.
@Ivan-hx7cc
@Ivan-hx7cc 4 жыл бұрын
@@CarInspected Wait so you put new pistons with 21mm diameter on the same rods to stop oil consumption? i thought the new revised pistons were 23mm and new rods needed to be used?
@jacquespotgieter2700
@jacquespotgieter2700 6 жыл бұрын
Sure a warranty claim after 9 years. Just leave the cylinder head on the floor. Very Pro. Man and I thought the head gasket was reusable....!!! Replacebthe oil,pan because of a bit of rust WTF.
@maxcichon
@maxcichon 7 жыл бұрын
No mention of cylinder wall condition? If a ring goes.....
@maxcichon
@maxcichon 7 жыл бұрын
I try not to assume amything! But I WILL ask questions... Thank you for the clarification.
@paulenglehart401
@paulenglehart401 6 жыл бұрын
Hey guys I have bought a 2010 Audi A4 Quattro 2.0L turbo and I only had it for 21,000 miles exactly and the engine went out it was going thru oil badly I brought it to Audi they acted as if they had never herd of such things but it's not been sitting in my yard now and I want to pull out the old engine and replace it then build another one I guess and I was going to upgrade turbo and install the anti lag tuning chip in it to make it faster and a little better fuel economy so please get back with me ASAP I would really like to see an break down of someone pulling the engine out of car
@paulenglehart401
@paulenglehart401 6 жыл бұрын
Car Inspected I'm not going to lie I really just need to know if I'm doing it on the ground if I must remove the front cap if that's a must and also I have been searching a bit to find a video on like a quick remove I just need to see the removal procedure even if it's just like a sped up video or something you know . I sincerely appreciate your time and input on my comment so quickly I really do appreciate that alot you have no idea and also one more question should I brake down new engine and replace the rings and timing components ,guides ,chain ECT.. before I even begin the installation I'm trying to bring out a bit of tuned power but most definitely do not want to overdue it as it will be returning az my DD for a long time trying to go for over 250k miles if possible! I was thinking turbo swap and a chip or maybe just the chip to try and help with the turbo lag because in Louisiana I need that quick acceleration and top end you know lol I just want to keep it reliable and make it a little more dun with like I said with out overdue-ing it any thoughts and would it be better for you to email me ?? Just curious. And once again thank you so much for you input and time answering these for me !!
@paulenglehart401
@paulenglehart401 6 жыл бұрын
Car Inspected Btw I just hit the sub button I wouldn't dream of not subbing to you guys I wish I could help with the channel as well that's for another time thank-you so much!!!🚗😃
@fattony123082
@fattony123082 7 жыл бұрын
I had a question about the Audi 2005-2006 model with the 2.0 I believe it was. my older brother had one of these cars bought brand new from the Audi dealership and serviced only buy them. He had the car towed roughly 5 times because it would not start the car did not have 20,000 miles on it and it was only three years old at the time. They mentioned something about a valve issue but for some reason could never fix it properly. They eventually got him out of the lease early and he told them to fuck off. Could anybody tell me what was wrong with this particular engine. I personally knew somebody that had the same exact car only I believe it was 2008 2009 had over 160,000 miles with not one problem. Same 2.0 engine.
@Boradub1
@Boradub1 6 жыл бұрын
fattony123082 - it was probably a n80 valve also called a purge valve. I have a 2006 Audi A4 2.0T and the same thing happened to me. Luckily it was in my driveway. I ordered a new part for twenty bucks and I was on the road again.
@ghost1killer
@ghost1killer 6 жыл бұрын
i have same problem with 1.8tfsi 4-cyl. consumption was about 1L/600km?! something like that, today brought my car to audi service for repairs, going to cost me 4k €. upgraded pistons/rings /chain and all other stuff that has to go with it. will say how it runs after its done, but still need to drive couple hundreds of km to say whats changed, since its a problem u cant see just like this, will come out over time and driven km. car is 2009 b8, 2010 model.
@ghost1killer
@ghost1killer 6 жыл бұрын
okay so, repair has done, it drives good. no problems at all, have put down couple of thousands km, since repairs, car hasnt asked for oil at all. repair took only 2 working days at dealership.
@WeSayFunny
@WeSayFunny 6 жыл бұрын
i just got my 2011 audi a4 2.0T piston rings replaced at the dealership for free. I hope this fixes the oil consumption problem.
@paulenglehart401
@paulenglehart401 6 жыл бұрын
al1nonly I have a 2010 I did not buy from dealer but from private owner and I had the same problem I hadn't thought to bring it to them I bought it at exactly 99,900miles it made it to 121,500miles then engine went out it's currently still in my yard it's 2010 A4 Quattro with 2.0L Turbo AWD and it was going way less than 600km before needing to add and i wasn't burning oil that badly the day we bought it should I still try to contact dealership and see if they will replace them before I swap my engine and rebuild the old one please I could really use your thoughts I am in need of my car back i dokt mind doing the work as i am certified tech just trying to take the logical route especially if they offer any kinda of warranty
@paulenglehart401
@paulenglehart401 6 жыл бұрын
Also what's best way to get rid turbo lag on the 2010 Audi a4 Quattro ( chip the ecu) or swap turbo with a k04 turbo and stuff or is there much more I have to do
@ghost1killer
@ghost1killer 6 жыл бұрын
@@paulenglehart401 i got 2 years or 100 000km warranty from dealer, so.. if its good enough for you, take it there. If not, u can search mby some workshops offer more. But keep in mind to ask upgraded pistons and rings not the same original ones they used first place.
@johnreynolds6291
@johnreynolds6291 6 жыл бұрын
Jesus man what do you use 87 Octane!? Whats up with All that Carbon Build up on your Pistons?
@johnreynolds6291
@johnreynolds6291 6 жыл бұрын
Car Inspected Wow that's Amazing, I cant Believe the Pistons are that Black from Premium fuel
@pepelapew483
@pepelapew483 5 жыл бұрын
oil
@mpelevic
@mpelevic 3 жыл бұрын
This guy never changed oil. Look at the color of the internals, ffs...
@ej20tnz
@ej20tnz 8 жыл бұрын
see the massacre of the rear main seal at 5.37
@jwarnes71
@jwarnes71 7 жыл бұрын
ej20tnz omg i wondered how he did that. thats so dodgy!!! i just did mine and removed the block from the car to do it properly. however i didnt change the head bolts. thinking of ordering a set now.
@rayford21
@rayford21 7 жыл бұрын
I hope they're not made in Germany.
@fedmelo
@fedmelo 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I had seen your comment before. I spent three days trying to do the job this way. One entire day was trying to remove the crankcase with no success. Now I know the rear seal flange holds the block and the crankcase together. I spent a lot of time due to this video bad infirmation. Please know that there is no way to remove pistons without removing engine from transmission.
@herbatniktigmigmag4258
@herbatniktigmigmag4258 6 жыл бұрын
I see scratch on that pistons its a lot burned oil (broken rings) So pistons oil pump need be changed for new one and you should go back to school.....
@zackworrell535
@zackworrell535 6 жыл бұрын
What should we do about our 2012 out of warranty A4 with 2.0T crap engine? Dealership wants to charge us $9000 to fix it, we bought it new from them in 2011. Car coulda been worth $15K now worth $2k in parts. I hate VW/ AUDI for this crap. What a bunch of crooks.
@zackworrell535
@zackworrell535 6 жыл бұрын
Car Inspected, my wife has been talking with Audi USA and making some progress. I’ll let you know what happens.
@zackworrell535
@zackworrell535 6 жыл бұрын
We just heard back last week . Audi refuses to do a single thing, told my wife in a letter "we failed to show brand loyalty" because we chose to have 4 oil changes done at our neighborhood garage and not the stealership. 4 oil changes that never should have needed to happen in the first place. I'll never buy a never car from these pricks ever again.
@jonsimmons4150
@jonsimmons4150 6 жыл бұрын
- then you get shafted at the stealership...german car quality has dissapeared decades ago. no better quality than ford- its all hype and marketing. bmw the same, mercedes the same vw the same.
@enquire422
@enquire422 7 жыл бұрын
German cars are not what they used to be, don't buy German from 2005 onwards!
@tumdeax
@tumdeax 6 жыл бұрын
Scotty Kilmer stopped buying them in the from the 90's and on.
@eliasbutcher859
@eliasbutcher859 4 жыл бұрын
Tumdéaux Scotty Kilmer is a meme. Turbocharged cars have this problem, nothing wrong with Germans.
@tyrannyterminator4179
@tyrannyterminator4179 3 жыл бұрын
Audi: Any Use Depletes Income
@CarInspected
@CarInspected 3 жыл бұрын
Looool
@buddyanddaisy123
@buddyanddaisy123 6 жыл бұрын
Horribly complex design-how come Toyota can make reliable I4 engines?
@BriansRCStuff
@BriansRCStuff 5 жыл бұрын
They have had oil consumption issues too, just not as bad.
@chriscars3578
@chriscars3578 3 жыл бұрын
Audi parts r very poor quality theses days i
@CarInspected
@CarInspected 3 жыл бұрын
They've improved quality a lot since 2013
@pasbogdan
@pasbogdan 7 жыл бұрын
That piston squirt looks like minumum -0.03 mm od.That is no longer a good piston.Also it shows scratches on the piston squirt.That indicates lots of heat and expansion.So,insuficient oil cooling the bottom of pistons,no or not eficient oil cooler,high egt.So,bad engineering at factory,and/or,abused engine,and/or bad ecu modification and abuse.
@pasbogdan
@pasbogdan 7 жыл бұрын
What i meant to say is piston skirt. Piston diameter estimation is based on visual comparation of used pistons and new pistons and measurements done in years.Usualy that white spot on sides of piston can indicate wear,but not always. A visual check on an used piston before any measurements(like diameter,ring groove,pin id,etc) starts with crown inspection,ring groove and piston skirt. Ring groove visual inspection like piston skirt visual inspection can show some big isuses and no need to measure anything. For example: a)ring groove is easy to spot if it is way out of dimensions just by looking at lower part of it.The ring pushes the bottom of ring groove and starts to move that lower lip.In this process the lower part of ring groove does not only deformates horisontaly in bottom direction it also pushes the aluminium to outside creating a small lip biger than piston O.D. Also in the inner part of the groove shows a great sign of wear if it is present.Considering the ring does not go to the bottom of I.D of ring groove,if ring groove has wear,the most inner part of ring groove has none(ring does not fully seat to ID of ring groove)and the outer lower part of groove has a small step that means wear. b)piston skirt is easy again to visualy inspect.The sides of piston has a different material then the crown for example.In many cases and in the one above,a new piston has that area dark grey/black.And the surface finish is not "glass" type.It has small grooves.When a piston skirt has wear,that specific surface finish goes away,leaving a smooth finish and white spot.Difference from new/black/factory finish to used/white/smooth finish is at least 0.02mm to 0.03mm.Can test it with a micrometer,that is a fact i can guarantee on. This is why i made asumptions about piston wear. Also i mentioned about causes of piston skirt wear.Will not elaborate again on those.Heat/lubrication causes it. As i mentioned,could be just manufaturing problems(low end materials,oil cooling/flow system ineficient).Or abuse,or bad mapping.Or all. I am not an expert on 2.0t engines.I manage well on 2.2 20v inline 5 And on the rest of engine types i am average,i just use my basic knowledge,and repair manuals. Excuse my bad english,it is not my native. Regards!
@pasbogdan
@pasbogdan 7 жыл бұрын
First and seccond ring use to enlarge the piston ring groove.Not the 3țrd one.I was estimating a -0.02 mm wear at OD of piston when white spot is visible on piston skirt.No idea about the coating thickness.
@Ivan-hx7cc
@Ivan-hx7cc 4 жыл бұрын
R.I.P Rear main Seal 🤣
@CarInspected
@CarInspected 4 жыл бұрын
Again, as mentioned several times in the comments section, we did not carry out the work on the vehicle, we documented the work. So with all of the comments here, we reached out to the shop that did the fix, and they claim "the car never came back to us, so no reworks done", Maybe the customer decided to go somewhere else to get the rear main done.
@mickpreljevic6120
@mickpreljevic6120 5 жыл бұрын
I've got Audi a4b8 2l tdi the gearbox died at 195000 km. The car never worked trouble free. German cars are thrush. I'll stick with Japanese cars. I've never had trouble with Japanese cars. Buy Toyota Honda or lexus and you'll be happy.
@memadmax69
@memadmax69 7 жыл бұрын
Fine german engineering... Not really... These motors haven't changed much over the years but they keep on fking with them, and this is an example.... Oh, and they charge a bucket of money for this Fine Engineering...
@rayford21
@rayford21 7 жыл бұрын
Comparing throw away cars with over priced VW products is like comparing plywood to diamonds. These cars should be durable and reliable for their price so no excuses can be made for their sub standard workmanship and cheap engineering. Their money is made by bilking owners in their service sops, not by their sales of the cars. 2-year warranty? Ok for people who trade these junkers in every 2 years but pity the fool who is stupid enough to buy a used one.
@jonsimmons4150
@jonsimmons4150 6 жыл бұрын
pinto fuel tank =1977.. kias decades ago. these audis are not that old..
@jonsimmons4150
@jonsimmons4150 6 жыл бұрын
these are endurance tested on dynos for oil consumption/milage/perfomance and wear on automated test beds.maybe they fiddled this as well as the emissions on vw diesels.
@INGZV
@INGZV 8 жыл бұрын
crap car !!!!
@luxoriusbg
@luxoriusbg 4 жыл бұрын
well I had a6 4f 2.4 V6 petrol and done 430 000km - no issues at all. 2.0TFSI is quick and good engine, if you do not wish to add oil there is a kit to fix it for arround 1.5k USD with the work so not that bad.
@uamade
@uamade 8 жыл бұрын
Dast ist auto ...
@overbuiltautomotive1299
@overbuiltautomotive1299 6 жыл бұрын
yes lots of issues from bs designs aluminum cylinder are the bad issue heck mazda/ford has cylinder with a chrome cylinder liner 2.3l that nascar standards bmw n jeep dodge merc n more use alumaseal crap cheaponess
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