WAS BIG CHIEF RIGHT - Street Race Talk Episode 448

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[@TT64NOVASS]

Chief's video's have more technical stuff , which i like , he doesn't play the 'i have a secret ' crap , he shows us how he does it , when it works and when it doesn't , he still shows it ! 3.89 gear

[@brianlopez74]

Chief's channel is great. I love how he explains what he's doing and why he's doing it. Still great content from the races that he's running as well as the builds.

[@scottbentley2825]

@@TT64NOVASS ask chief his rear end gearing lol they keep that secret

[@TT64NOVASS]

@@scottbentley2825 3.89

[@TT64NOVASS]

@@scottbentley2825 3.89

[@TT64NOVASS]

@@scottbentley2825 3.89

[@domingovargas3146]

Chief left because he didn't like the changes , I miss the Original Street Outlaws with Big Chief

[@MrVelocity111]

Totally agree

[@MarianneHayward]

So true

[@pulses33]

Chief was playing favorites and setting up races they could win easily instead of racing THE BEST and his ego had gotten out of hand as well. It's been better since he left.

[@chmmm2565]

Cars got so fast. Were they street anymore? They needed track. But it was a damn good run. And can’t fault them for wanting to go faster.

[@thegooniverse495]

Ironic, the guy that started it all, hosted it all, ran it all, and built it all left and it collapses. Gee, didn't see that coming.

[@NikkiSticks]

Right. It didn't take fkn nostradamus to see that was going to happen. Pilgrim are idiots for not doing everything they had to do to keep him happy, and obviously, money just wasn't enough. He wanted authenticity

[@seanthornhill9503]

He didn’t start it and build it all by himself. Lmao 🤣

[@thegooniverse495]

@@seanthornhill9503 he was the one pilgrim reached out to. They only found them through big chiefs forum. He was the one that got them involved. He was the one that took them out to the streets for thier first time ever. He was the one that gave them ideas for the show. He was the one that was the race master. He was the one that came up with the list. He was the one that had a goal for the list. Tell me more about how chief isn't street outlaws

[@Ghost-304]

When did it collapse. NPK is going strong for 7 seasons . He wasn’t rite at all

[@thegooniverse495]

@@Ghost-304 npk is not street outlaws. Yes I understand the affiliation

[@davidmondragon6037]

Chief was and still is the real street outlaw.

[@begalbrew5572]

More IS than WAS.

[@Troy_In_The_80s]

It's two different shows. NPK is unsanctioned race cars and Street Outlaws is supposed to be street. People can relate to street.

[@billycoburn3727]

Chief seems to be happier now that he's doing his own thing.

[@johnh.9127]

I disagree, i personally think he has a lot of regrets, he’s on the outside looking in, that’s my opinion and I totally believe it.

[@williamvanhouten194]

​@johnh.9127 no sir.... talkin to Justin and Jackie almost daily.... they are MUCH HAPPIER street racing and back half racing with the Crow and Caddy Jack. He even finally won a cash days. Just follow him on his youtube and discord channel and they interact with us everyday.... constantly

[@johnh.9127]

@@williamvanhouten194 I have followed, and I know he’s missing everything that came about and he hand a big hand in, nothing can make me believe chief is happier, no way no how, he belongs with everyone in NPK, I feel sorry for him.

[@williamvanhouten194]

@@johnh.9127 well everyone has their opinion... like I said I talk to him almost daily and he is very happy doing what he's doing that's why he hasn't reached out to anyone. Even the other guys have said Justin hasn't talked to any of them... from his own mouth.... he's doing what he loves and that's all that matters .

[@Krazy_one]

@@johnh.9127 bro he never liked npk? He did like 7 npk races and won Denver. But that was it.

[@scottbentley2825]

It started going downhill when people turned into divas after getting paid. Now we cant relate to cars that cost 7 figures! I run a twin turbo firebird i put together myself like the original og racers. Those days are over.

[@strokin3s]

I haven’t seen a car costing 7 figures, but there are 30+ 6 figure cars!

[@lb9gta307]

But I can live vicariously through them and be entertained by stupidly fast cars being raced. I never cared about the cars leveling up. I did care about them moving away from the list and including "a chase is a race" bs.

[@Krazy_one]

A few of us saw it coming and when we said "with chief leaving it's the beginning of the end". And others were saying "no JJ is better or JJ is more street". Well he's gone after he ran off everyone. JJ got the crown and didn't know what to do with it. So he cashed out.

[@PastorOverall]

Imagine 405 out-of-town challenges and Cash days

[@spotonplumbingkl]

We want chief

[@tomfarabaughjr4564]

I don’t recognize what it is… I sadly gave up a couple years ago. I do miss it…. Real people doing real things.

[@kevinrush1873]

Chief and Shawn said it best when they said "If you're Street, Be Street. If you ain't, Be ain't" That was said with zero hate or shade... It was just saying people should do what they want to do, not what people think they should. Chief wants to be street and street outlaws wanted to be ain't. And Shawn decided he ain't either. No shade. Love his KZbin channel and what hes doing but its clear he wanted to do vastly different things with his hobby than Chief did.

[@Brandon_093]

Shawn is still as street as anyone, he decided to do npk and enjoys it. Like big chief tried npk and even tried nhra pro mod. Shawn still streets and wants to do more which is why he’s quitting npk once the KZbin channel grows a little more

[@howiefeltersnatcher]

Shawn sucked up to Ryan Martin and followed his coat tail got Ryan’s sponsorship ran Ryan’s combo he was smart to do so I like him for it yes and no I like when there are leaders not a follower a person that goes his own way and proves himself Ryan did that Shawn just followed him and his program and it paid off chief wasn’t that type of person

[@randywright1809]

Big Chief said that, it wasn't Shawn

[@nolansalas671]

@@howiefeltersnatcher what sponsor of Ryan does Shawn have. Shawn's main sponsor is Ram Jack, that has nothing to do with Ryan. Sure he is Running the same combo as Ryan, but so are a bunch of others.

[@scottguthrie7882]

Bring back chife n shawn n JJ DA BOSS

[@paulleclaire2141]

I don't think there's anyway question when chief left, the show died. Just look at the ratings when he was the head of the show and when he left. I recently watched some of the old original 405 shows and they were just so much better, going around seeing what all the guys were doing at their shops, pranking guys, and then just having some racing at the end. NPK was 3 hours of racing and a little of watching what happened in the pitts. The drama was fun. The truth is to make it great reality show you need great characters. That's what the original Show had and chief was the best / most interesting character.

[@MrVelocity111]

U nailed it exactly correct

[@arickhook370]

The downfall of Street Outlaws is simply Pilgrim/Discovery. They completely overloaded us with content. 405 show, New Orleans, Memphis, Fastest in America, NPK, Endgame, America's List, Mega Cash Days big tire, Mega Cash Days Small Tire. And after a while you just get burnt out on all of it 24/7. I personally love 187 CUSTOMS KZbin channel WAY better than the show content. Chief is WAY better on his channel than he was on the show in later seasons and several channels are SO close to being extremely good Kye Kelley's, Scott Taylor, Ryan Martin. If they would be more regular uploads similar to 187 customs then I wouldn't have any use for a T.V. show.

[@PastorOverall]

Big Chief can bring 405 list racing back but with a legal twist.😊 But he is the only one who can do it.

[@vw64manyrd]

A comment for the youtube algorithm. The "street" side is a gamble and a liability. Incidents and lawsuits have dictated that. Big Chief made an astute calculated decision and acted accordingly. Kudos to him. Thanks for the videos. 👍

[@wesw9586]

You can crash and/or get injured at a track too. Just goes to show that the insurance guys and the accountants (who know absolutely nothing of the real world) run the deal. That's why it died. TV execs got no passion and no balls. Won't take the risk. And at the end of the day, risk equals reward.

[@the_hobby_cavethcracing444]

The Streets Never Die People

[@dragonrider6875]

You have to remember that, Discover's CEO hates Street outlaws. I would love to see some new street stuff. It would be so cool. I would love to see Monza back racing.

[@gregoryb6305]

Amen Sim! what chief is doing has pacified and I love what he and Jackie do, but the only way this can work is if chief rebuilds it. Most of the 405 does not even talk to him from what it seems? Oh and for Gods sake don't let Reaper or JJ get involved. And yes it did die when Chief left, Dana White is all speculation anyway.

[@MrVelocity111]

Totally correct answer u nailed it

[@garyclarke2385]

No 1 individual racer in the top 10 of the 405 could of toppled big cheif and that is why shawn, chucky and Ryan Martin teamed up with pilgrim to hoodwink the fans and even the racers who were at the race were shawn slipped into being RACEMASTER without foretelling the other racers right up until the start of filming..REMEMBER murder nova was extremely worried and rightly so that he might not get picked to race for the 405 with a 1 win and 10 loses...cheif and multiple other racers had a way better record with racing and tuning the cars for the next show...THEN CHEIF GETS LEFT OUT AND SHAWN STEPS IN TO RACEMASTER POSITION EVEN THOUGH HE NEVER MADE A DECISION WITHOUT RYAN'S AND CHUCKYS INSIGHT, WHEN ALL THE OTHER RACERS WERE TOLD THAT CHEIF WAS GONE ALL WERE TOOK BY SURPRISE AFTER SIGNING CONTRACTS...REMEMBER LAST TIME SHAWN SAID THAT HE NEEDED A BREAK FROM RACING AND TIME WITH HIS FAMILY, BUT IMO HE SURELY HAD PREVIOUS KNOWLEDGE THAT RYAN, CHUCKY AND SHAWN WERE BITCHIN ABOUT SOME DECISIONS CHEIF MADE TO MAKE THE 405 TOP 10 STEP UP AND HELP EACH OTHER GET FASTER, SHAWN JUST COULDN'T TUNE HIS CAR FOR LOVE NOR MONEY AND REMEMBER CHEIF TUNING IT KEPT HIM NO 1 WITH MURDER NOVA FOR 3 YEARS RUNNING...I STILL CALL THE CAR A NOVA BECAUSE AFTER CHEIF IT MURDERED NO RACER....CHEIF ALWAYS WANTED TO RACE AND BE NO 1 AND SHAWN GOT IN HIS FEELINGS AND AGAIN IMO STABBED CHEIF BY SAYING NOTHING ABOUT THE RACEMASTER THING BEFOREHAND AND TILL TODAY ONLY SHAWN, RYAN THE ODD TIME AND CHUCKY EVER SPOKE ABOUT IT, EVERYONE ELSE HAD NO IDEA..OR AT LEAST NEVER BADMOUTHED CHEIF....

[@wesw9586]

Never thought about it like that. Interesting theory 🤔 would explain why Phantom gets all extra cunty whenever someone mentions Tuesdays, meth shacks or good podcasts... maybe that bridge is burnt

[@kylekallies3381]

I 100% think that chef knew what was going on he probably even told the rest of the guy on his team what was going on and I believe that’s why he did what he did in the end blaming it on something so small but knew that discovery was going to cut pay and everything just added up to be to much so in the end he said F-U

[@markroberts9225]

I call it the OCC effect same thing that happened to Orange county choppers Big money changes everything and then it's downhill from there.

[@derfpoloderf]

The Street outlaws show was on its way out before Chief stepped away. Also, all good shows will eventually end. I'm surprised it lasted as long at it did. I loved Street outlaws and watched it religiously weekly. It reminded me when pinks was on the speed channel.

[@stevereimer2633]

Big Chief and Daddy Dave won the Wholly Mammoth on Pinks. Chief was the negotiator and Dave drove. Awesome episode.

[@philipperron1810]

To be fair, Big Chief played a big roll in the show not being what it was. Have we all forgotten the episode where he 1st rolled out the promod...a REAL promod? He was the 1st to do so in the 405.

[@danlundquist3907]

Sim, Its a sad day not knowing the future of what we ❤. I can't believe a show as popular as street outlaws on for 10yrs + can be pulled and gone. Look at Deadliest Catch, Bering Sea Gold on 18 + years and still going. No one pulled the plugg on these shows. We can only hope a Dana White or some will try to save something from this Street Outlaws franchise! TTVE! 🔦🏁💰🤑🇺🇸

[@Krazy_one]

Street outlaws were still getting the views. The new owner of discovery came in and just dropped it.

[@danlundquist3907]

@@Krazy_one I unfortunately know that. Cutting shows that cost to much to produce.

[@Krazy_one]

I couldn't see it costing much more than the rest. Especially npk making up costs with fans, tickets, and merchandise.

[@wesw9586]

That's television, folks. TV people got no passion and no balls. A little accident happens and it all turns to shit.

[@goblebrotherracing5525]

The death they had on set is what killed the street show. The lawsuits that came with it , the publicity of it , etc. it’ll never come back.

[@wesw9586]

That's legal and accounting fuckery. Nothing real. Just bitches with no passion and no balls. That's why the show died. TV people are cowardly trash with no love, no conviction. Look at any sport or competition. It gets media coverage, an accident happens and they proceed to pervert twist and destroy the original thing in the name of "safety". Safety is TV lingo for "don't get me sued".

[@chuck1739]

No matter what,Big Chief kept the show interesting and is truly missed!!! The Show was Not the same. 313

[@jacobpenkava2980]

The street stuff is what's kept me interested. I like to hear what happens in npk but not watch it

[@mickeykoser2702]

Well NPK made sense to give people a chance to meet and cheer for the “street racers” and meet them. They screwed that up bringing in the “track guys”. Then the street stuff got fucked, when they brought jj in and changed it from “ find out who’s the fastest with a set of rules to make it fair” to. “ the jj hustle”. That ruind the street. So that’s my 2 cents

[@bobbywagner7880]

I love mso much respect and love from east TN

[@albertdefrancesco8175]

One thing i feel hasn’t fully been addressed in all of this is the insurance and liability aspect of the street shows. Even in a closed environment on a full production set, it’s still just a street that’s closed for filming. Meaning pilgrim media assumes all liability in that environment(no matter what waivers are signed and how many releases participants have signed). In a track environment every single car is tech’ed, they are significantly safer built cars, the track environment is purpose built for cars going very fast. Guys flip, roll, hit the barriers and walk away.

[@troyeller734]

Street stuff was the best!

[@ericbliske8485]

I believe that they could create a good show/product by doing a combination of parts manufacturer with the street races. The show would gather sponsors within the drag racing industry/community and allow them to financially give each driver x amount in parts to run on their cars. Keep the overall money spent on each car the same. Just like the salary cap they do in professional sports. If during the season parts are broken they can be same part replaced or upgraded part replaced but counted additionally to their overall expense. It would closely relate to us that save to buy performance parts for our street race cars. Manufacturers could advise racers on how to get the most for their dollar and many other choices or issues as they arise. I’d love to see the results of certain combinations of intake, carbs, exhaust, tires, suspensions etc. Then we could see what racers go through to build their cars, test, drive and race. The racer and crew member relationship, and the racer to racer relationship could be shown throughout the show. Sponsors would love this! Just a rough idea of what I’d like to see!

[@Krazy_one]

They did this and the more popular guys get higher dollar parts so you'll just have a few with a better car even with a budget.

[@kpskingdom]

Good point about racers making their own content. You have 40K subscribers and 187 Customs has 269K subscribers. Discovery and Pilgrim has had to deal with deaths and very serious crashes, the economy across the whole world is in poor shape. There is still street racing, it is not just filmed in a professional manner.

[@DScaglione.]

Been a while SIM ... but been watching you when I can. ... If I may comment - Things happen in life that are cyclical, and TV is no different (at least from my perspective of what I've watched over the years). There's always a beginning, middle and end - to tv series (a.k.a. life-cycle), and when it's over, there may be talk about how good the show was, and "Man we should bring it back" ... but the question remains: Why did it end then? ... If it aint broke, ... well you know the rest of that saying. Changes are inevitable, and if you can't adapt change and evolve a tv show WITHOUT losing it's core mission statement, then it's time to end it. The Big Guy left and it changed the show forever (for the worse in my opinion, and I stopped watching) and he had his reasons - of which we may never know, but that's his right. And I'm sure there are those among us - and I - have walked away from life situations which didn't fit within our wheelhouse, or changed into something we didn't sign up for. Funny that I've begun to watch the OG series from the beginning lately, and it's pretty cool to see. Yeah I wish it were back to the original show - and maybe it will, but I doubt it will be with the original "cast", but maybe a different cast. Or maybe not at all. All I know is that what was done, filmed and in the can for those 13 season that I watched, it was great, and I'd rather have that than nothing. I'm not into the NPK series, but I respect it and it's become a smash hit - however if that didn't happen at all, then it leaves only speculation of how would the OG405 show have kept going and evolving - again sticking to it's core mission statement? Out of Town? Yes ... Out of Country? If Possible -but costly ... celebrity racers / appearances? I dunno ... ... ... It'll all remain to be seen. Hope you and all in here are well! - God Bless!

[@josephtoscano8318]

Long live Chief. The Show we got hooked on is long gone, sadly we'll never see a true "Street Outlaws" show again. The negotiations and being on dark roads late at nite is what we all loved ab😢it!!!! If Chief ever decides to do HIS OWN SHOW????? FUKIN HOMERUN!!!! Justin, hook a brother up dude. No SIM??? TTVE

[@jdm3litecoulture-572]

The problem is it was supposed to be street and NPK was supposed to be a once a year thing. Also trying to run those cars 30 times per season and it doesn’t work that way.

[@jeffpistritto9524]

Hey DanaWhite get a hold of SRC “Billy the kid” thats a guy who is at where people are interested . Relatable race cars that people connect with ! Put him up against people like the Taber brothers , tyler no boost, kc max etc. all on the street maybe 12 episodes to start . Call it Kings of the street or something .

[@AndyBryde]

Even Monza is starting to do other things like sell race cars because he doesn’t want to do no prep

[@wesw9586]

Saw Youngblood in one of Chiefs recent YT videos helping them with bottles and stuff. Wouldn't be surprised if Jerry was there too and just stayed clear of the camera.

[@anthonyromero8117]

All good things come to an end. Remember that

[@onebigdeal8905]

Chief & Chucky was 1st straw!! JJ & Trish was the Last!!

[@glennevitt5250]

When guys used to go and pick their cars and start working on them and it got so high Tech and a lot of money went into it the small guy he had to get out of it. He couldn’t afford it so I can understand where Chiefs coming from.💯😎

[@rodneyhodgson2068]

Sim, keep on keppin on bro! I enjoy the content for the same reason you make it.

[@PCgonerogue820]

I can see No Prep Elite ending, the live video unedited and edited videos have around 200k views

[@tomsettles6873]

Only the original Street Outlaws for me. When I saw Memphis and Nola shows being aired, I knew it was beginning of the end.

[@sloehr1974]

I think the fundamental breakdown was JJ... a case of two boys having an "ego" measuring contest and now both are gone, as is the the series to your point.

[@robcameron5521]

A men , 100 percent brother . I loved street outlaws ! All off it . I don't even bother anymore , IT IS DONE !

[@MarianneHayward]

Chief was right to leave

[@GrayMatterBBC]

Good content as usual Sim. But you should have talked about Dominator crashing the Mopar!

[@bruceskogen5712]

The Canadians did great at Rad Torque. Ryan even brought out the Grey car Friday night for a $4500.00 race and won on Saturday he brought it out again for$5000.00 and goy his ass kicked

[@BeyondTheLineRacing]

Imagine letting your biggest star go to cater to little guys like Reaper

[@elfishonado76]

Big Chief and u are RIGHT!!!!

[@Outlawproductions582]

NPK Canada not being streamed is really bad look for Street Outlaws

[@Johnnybegood573]

Big c is street outlaws. All the og people are. Would be awesome if they all got along and started racing again together.

[@Opawsays]

Scr is where it is at best race channel hands down Opaw said that✌️😊

[@spurtzbum]

I agree the original was so fun and exciting to watch..but don't think we will ever see it again, the big thing is safety..being at a track they can control it better then being on the street...

[@twanhill4127]

Well we all knew that when they first went to the track.. Chief let it be known he wasn’t a track guy, at least he tried a few days.. only thing I like about NPK is we can attend… I think the final straw was doing the “vs the world”.. I myself an I know at least 10 other fans said Australia was a terrible idea an didn’t watch it all the way through.

[@Carlos-r5n2b]

Chief knew it was coming to a end soon. Chief not building no prep car pizzed Pilgrim off. The few races he ran was forced to do them. He was going through Divorce and didn't wanna purchase a semi double stack trailer, build faster car. I chief was gonna track race he'd go NHRA pro stock let his owner pay the bills.

[@southcarterracing9320]

A lot of issues were production side but there was a lot of behind the scenes that chief caused the problems and everything changed after his crash

[@DEATHTRAPHOTRODS]

I believe it will just be another drag racing series.

[@thepostproject1284]

A point to be made is that street stuff is dangerous, people have died or been severally injured and its complicated now. I acknowledge that's all part of it, but really its not a safe area for Network TV to back. NPK kinda was/is

[@Rob_Batman]

I’m not saying Chief was wrong but the fact he’s been sitting at home working on his girlfriends car doesn’t in fact make him right either. In comparison to MurderNova who has excelled since going on his own doing NPK and all his side projects, Chief was meant to be the motivated competitor of the two.

[@keithblack3638]

From what I’ve seen with all the drivers with the small tire cars they are gonna be back on the streets I takes to Ryan and he pretty much said they was

[@supercharged6771]

Big chief thought he was king shit and not a team player but I still liked him and the show definitely suffered

[@BA-xj9ew]

List racing went away when the leader didn't race over multiple episodes, but birdman in 25th place could race three times a show. We wanted to see the top 10 race, and all we get is back-markers racing.

[@crashthenet0073]

Any updates on an interview with Shawn???

[@benotto2282]

It did die, but it shouldn't have. I love Big Chief, but I still like all the street stuff even without him. I still can't believe that no one wants to pick this up and fast. I want both npk and all the street content I can get. I will say, the small tire stuff us just ok. However, if that was all there was, I'd still happily watch. What I really love is the list races and America's fastest. I never tire of it.

[@Krazy_one]

Lets say the street show comes back well who is "street" enough with a personality to run it? Not swanstrom, or Dave, or even ryan. Shawn tried but he needs someone like chief to help.

[@donmcclellandiii738]

I have and will continue to say the death of Ryan Fellows was the end no major network will puta name on something with so much possibility of death I think Chief was done playing the dog and pony show and when the accident happened on other show he knew big changes would be required for networks to continue and he was already done changeling for other people I respect him for that

[@keysautorepair6038]

I knew something was wrong when they went to Australia and the stands were empty that show is done.

[@nathanburke6089]

Simple, they should have stayed on the ST! Hence, the name Street Outlaws!! Cheif was right.

[@anthemsing]

All you people who believe it was BC leaving that cause the end, get over it. It ended because of the death of Ryan Fellows and the lawsuit. Besides it ran for how many years. Things change over time, fans come and go. Just ask any minor league sports team.

[@hankthetreeman4979]

I miss OUR lil group!

[@Krazy_one]

@@hankthetreeman4979 💯💯

[@JuanGonzalez-mi9uj]

Hey sim I agree chief was the real deal but the show just wouldn't listen to him he just didn't agree with the direction the show was going and decided to leave a sinking ship when you have a person telling you what's going on and you shoot him down its not going to end well so the show will never come back frim that i don't think a new show will have the same clout as the og show. As always keep up the awesome work let's go ttve 💪 💯

[@Noypi]

Npk is boring now since everyone has same set up!!

[@warrenwhite513]

This guy is such a nut rider

[@jeffpistritto9524]

I have no interest in NPK . I loved OG street outlaws , still love the guys and gals and dont hate them for doing their thing but its boring. But watching murder nova rebuild the OG car and put it on small tires , now thats awesome that would be sick to see on an OG style show!

[@michaelspain4612]

This freaking dude is on Adderall

[@motownXJdad9565]

it was always a TV thing to me, big tire cars werent a thing on the real streets. big tire cars couldnt get a race on the streets lol.theyre all building small tire cars for a reason, i think theyre coming back on small tires.

[@gil9132]

The show is dead. They never aired the last season of NPK that they filmed and if you watch any of the racer's channels on KZbin, there are no large boom cameras like there use to be, or any camera crews anywhere. Sometimes you'll see 1 camera guy on the starting line which I can only assume is the live stream camera people are talking about. Follow the drivers you like on their social media channels

[@waygu66]

Yep chief was right there all employes & further and further in debt chasing the golden carrott that never pays for itself

[@arthurcreth4619]

Run what you brung was always the best races, there is to much technicalities in the new show and lets be honest justin shearer is street outlaws despite how they try to pumo it up

[@chuckfowler8875]

Hoonigan was a sold almost a year before Ken Block died!!! There was a two year contract to keep the same content and was to fade into what it is now.

[@bondobird]

After chief left, the only episodes I watched were with Cali Nate. So I guess I’m done with street outlaws forever 😭

[@sgwoopass]

They need to team up with Cleetus and set something up.

[@nolansalas671]

The downfall of the show comes down to the producer's sudden death plus Ryan Fellows horrible tragedy and the law suit that followed.

[@chadcoffman1870]

Just like humans if we don’t change with the times and grow we die the same goes for shows some shows can handle the shift some can’t will street outlaws who knows only time will tell.

[@rickycampbell9378]

Who would want to with the risk of getting sued

[@FreeEricBrandt]

SRC is the new NPK someone has to say it...

[@arthurcreth4619]

Src????

[@FreeEricBrandt]

@arthurcreth4619 yes... if you don't know, you're living under a rock

[@arthurcreth4619]

@@FreeEricBrandt then I must be 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@FreeEricBrandt]

@arthurcreth4619 street race channel Just search SRC, you'll find everything

[@virgo7492]

I think it could have been good if left to be what it started as, people say it would get boring but the NFL has a huge fan base and thry dont reinvent the game every few years. Have the show people loved from the start and sprinkle in some of the different things they wanted. The show became to different from the show we fell in love with.... IMO

[@briansturgeon]

Daily driven exotics took over the hoonigan place.

[@raabiabspoel8675]

I honestly never liked NPK. Only saw the first season didn’t like it. Stopped watching SO completely. But the street shows I wouldn’t miss for the world. The street races is what gets the excitement going. Also the street show is dead without Big Chief. It died when he left. I want the street show back

[@Outlawproductions582]

No prep kings is cool if u like seeing cars go straight and fast but hell lets be honest we all would rather see dave drive the fk out of the Truck

[@ronmerrill4502]

The state of the Street Outlaws, has nothing to do with Chief! It is obviously because of Discovery Channel. If anyone needs more explanation than that, the they don't follow the show and understand what makes it work!

[@robfranke1]

It was cool when they were Street Outlaws! Guys with regular jobs putting their hobby on th streets on th weekends...It ALways is ruined by Big Money...they basically went from hobby to Pro! Lucky bastards that saved and grew are millionaires..others dropped out for various reasons. It's NOT the same...you can't duplicate it for tv..Fun while it lasted....go to local hobby guys cash racing events..it's as close as you'll come..that's were you'll find Chief!

[@edstig]

You are not paying attention sims street racing is alive at all these local tracks and winning more money than No Prep Kings?

[@bartpang]

That's not street racing. That's No Prep!

[@edstig]

Same difference they just gotten smarter and move to a track for way more money and less part breakage?

[@HOAOffender]

How can you talk about street outlaws & never mention Chief? That's silly. Though I love NPK...Street Outlaws the show was never the same with Chief stepping away. Only thing close, was Boosted's Mega Cash Days. JJ's Fastest in America, wasnt even truly about the fastest with all the gimmicks, last min changes & venue switches. I just think it pushed away alot of the OG fans. I'm not hating on JJ, it just wasnt the same though. 405's list & vs out of town....thats what I miss.

[@TallapoosaHellraiser.]

Hey, remember me? I wish I would have been wrong on this, really I do.

[@stephenalexander2427]

They go live and Dana saves it !

[@thdkid0618]

I don't even watch anymore. I haven't in 2 plus years

[@clintjohnson8670]

Agree with you 💯