Was it Good? - Devil May Cry 2

[@Lerkero]

The best part about DMC2 is that it makes DMC3 one of the best comeback stories of all time

[@emetanti]

One DMC bombing for the follow up to be a redemption has been weirdly consistent, the same effectively occured with DmC into DMC5.

[@MindinViolet]

@@emetanti The odd-numbered Devil May Cry games are masterpieces. The even-numbered games are flawed.

[@saltiney8578]

DMC has done that again as well, as they sold out the series to make that god awful DMC game but then DMC5 is pretty damn good.

[@allypezz]

Basically any game with Virgil in it then

[@Kspice9000]

​​@MindinViolet ehh 4 was decent. Story was kind of all over the place and I both liked/hated fighting the same bosses twice with different characters. Would very rather they did that with more unique bosses

[@IcicleFerret]

Fun fact: The guy who voiced Griffon in DMC1 was an out of work opera singer who was embarrassed to take a voice acting role for a video game. He auditioned for the job because he needed the money, and only agreed to do it if he remained uncredited. I know that's not related to DMC2, but it's a fascinating piece of Devil May Cry history.

[@SquareViking]

Was he actually you?

[@IcicleFerret]

@@SquareViking No, haha! But I was the one who pieced together the VA's story for Griffon's fandom page.

[@BlackSun90]

Fascinating? No. Pathetic now that he is forever not credited? Yes

[@Praqueue]

​@@BlackSun90 Por qué no los dos?

[@brunoactis1104]

​@@BlackSun90Nah. I too would be embarassed if i was a 70 years old opera singer who probably still thought videogames were like Pacman.

[@sushionaram]

Fun fact, infested tank file description states: A tank possessed by an Infestant. The body coated by the demon armor is invulnerable to any attack And then game guide says: Thankfully, their enemy file is incorrect and their armor is not invulnerable

[@_emory]

“Lucia can swim” This was definitely a tomb raider rework

[@VyvyantOH]

Good to know that the best devil may cry game in 2003 was in fact Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne: Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry Series

[@Yurikon3]

Ah, that makes sense. Thank you Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne.

[@ShadowCthulhu]

@@Yurikon3 too bad with the remaster you have to pay to unlock him on the disc. Glad I still have my PS2 copy.

[@Ninjujitsu]

I approve of this message

[@shoobitybebopboo4798]

@@Yurikon3 Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne would never take advantage of our innate gullibility

[@ValetinoLovebird]

Devil May Cry: Nocturne

[@Maiden.less.]

I love that you went for the "Was it any good?" - "No, Cheers, thanks for watching" Joke. I w a s expecting it and even tabbed to the video on my first monitor while you did it.

[@OM3GA-Z3RO]

The funny thing is the whole meme of "Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series" is this Dante. They used this Dante in Lucifer's Call/Nocturne where the meme spawned from, right down to his outfit and looks to his coin flipping antics and if you have the knowledge that both sides of his coin are heads, you can easily win the coin toss to recruit him at a discount price by betting on heads.

[@leithaziz2716]

I think I remember Nocturne Dante being a little more playful actually. So maybe they caught on from the backlash of how his personality in 2 was received.

[@Tetsuito]

Remember the Diesel ads using this Dante?

[@jdoggydogg]

I mean, it is Dante's best design afterall.

[@kakizakichannel]

​@@leithaziz2716 I think not having voice acting leaves it up to interpretation. For me I read Dante's lines in Rueben's voice but I can easily imagine people reading with DMC2 Dante's voice.

[@Zikar]

The funniest thing is that there was a second round of the me when Dante from the Ninja Theory DMC started turning up in games. It's always the lamest Dantes that get the crossovers.

[@Lokanth]

That was the best 22 second video I’ve ever watched. Thank you, Josh.

[@LuriTV]

so you skipped the bonus content?

[@Lokanth]

@@LuriTVNot sure what you mean, the video ends after 22 seconds.

[@StoneEagle194]

Devil May Cry 2, ironically, got two things right. The gun combat was the base for Gunslinger and it was the start of bloody palace.

[@sengiko]

And gave Dante his default weapon of choice for the every game afterwards: Rebellion

[@LockMatch]

Also wallrunning for trickster

[@TasTheWatcher]

The good: Gunslinger moves, trickster moves, gun-switching, started bloody palace, level select, multiple playable characters, kind of had sin DT, cool character designs, multiple enemy types at once, maybe a couple of bosses plus an amulet-like system to modify DT could have been used to make Quicksilver and Doppelganger more useful in 3 instead of taking away other styles The bad: Everything else

[@Hammybread]

Going to have to jump in and call you out here, if you just hold gun you will keep shooting till they die. All while they slowly rise into the air xD Yeah GREAT gunslinger gameplay.

[@StoneEagle194]

@@LockMatch I *completely* forgot you can run on walls, admittedly it's been 16 years since the last time I played DMC2. So that's 3 good things, maybe 4 if you count Dante's design. If Capcom ever officially brings back that design it'll be a solid 4 good things DMC2 did.

[@residentgrigo4701]

There is a Trish mode you can unlock, even with a cheat. She has Dante´s DMC 1 moveset, making her the best-playing character.

[@rebellyanmagic6409]

I like how Dante's personality is such a 180 from DMC1 that the game publishers made DMC3 a prequel to explain why.

[@BloodyArchangelus]

When Dante anime is a good way to show his growth in DMC 4 personality

[@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it]

its all about getting up after the fall and capcom did it. after horrendous 2 they made the best game in the franchise, 3

[@leithaziz2716]

@@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it Fun fact. The original director of DMC2 is unknown to this day, but after leaving and with the state the game was in, Itsuno was told by Capcom to steer the project and finish it before release. It's thanks to him that the game is in a playable state at all. He's talked before in interviews about how he didn't want his legacy to be left as "the guy who worked on DMC2", so he directed DMC3 as a chance to set things straight and make something he can be proud of. Spoiler alert: DMC3 is a pretty rad game that saved the franchise.

[@iller3]

@@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it sounds more like a weird Alchemy ritual to me

[@Deadsnake989]

@dudem8guy 3 has my favorite weapon lineup so it'll always be my favorite to play Dante in for that reason. But 5 has the best version of Vergil, who is my favorite character to play in any of the DMC games. So i'm honestly torn between saying 3 or 5 is my favorite.

[@MaitreMechant]

that helicopter and building boss fights are certified "behold, combat !" moments

[@outlawdg]

I cannot believe someone is bothering. I'm not gonna defend this game but as someone who thoroughly beat almost every mode in a single night as a young lad, and then proceeded to hear people who never touched the game bash it to hell for the next 2 decades, I appreciate you coming along to actually play and analyse it, I'm sure it wasn't very engaging though so sorry about that 😂

[@Simp-Bizkit]

I don’t love DMC2 but the hate it gets is not warranted. I think it was a stepping stone for DMC3 to be as good as it is.

[@nicolaiswordart4674]

hands down. worst game ive ever played. and as a disclaimer. i have no other life

[@Simp-Bizkit]

@@nicolaiswordart4674 have you ever played ride to hell: retribution? Come back when you have.

[@vuklind_9301]

​@@nicolaiswordart4674 You need to play League then lol

[@elibonham4388]

Sonic 06 doctor jekyl and mr hyde tomb raider angels of darkness much worse options​@@nicolaiswordart4674

[@sathroe]

Lucia and her devil trigger are two of the best designs of DMC, and the twist of her story, the angelic powers that are hinted at and threat of the lore getting deeper getting subverted in a way i still can't fully forgive despite adoring what it does for her character arc, is absolutely delicious and i'm glad they brought it back for DMC 4. i love her throwing knife feathers, i love the arm blades in Devil Trigger, her whole moveset is the right kind of stylish to stand out even in a cast this stacked with absolute Icons. i can only hope they bring her back and give her a better showing because she deserves a better fucking game

[@RenegadeVile]

Same here, but sadly, I feel ike she falls into that category of: Characters introduced in shitty sequels the franchise wants to forget about completely, and thus the few good things about said sequel get completely ignored as well. Why try to fix the good things when you can just get rid of them instead?

[@massdefection]

Part of me hopes Lucia gets a return in a future game just to redeem her existence because damn they kinda did her dirty. Hopefully someday they can touch up her gameplay and put her in a new game even if it's as a bonus character.

[@leithaziz2716]

I think she showed up in a DMC5 prequel comic where she hung out with Dante. But that was about it.

[@Thaltas]

​@@leithaziz2716not a comic! A novel that prequels before DMC5 by a few weeks/months that explains why Dante has Balrog and other small things. She is mentioned there (in a cute crush way) but that was it for now.

[@Doc-Glock]

@@Thaltas Neat. I want to read that now.

[@mrcheesemunch]

Yeah that would be so cool, the ladies were completely neglected in 5 so I hope they all get some action in the next game Maybe a DLC expansion could have the ladies in it, there were rumours of a Ladies Night DLC for V as is Honestly as much as I love him I'm tired of Vergil being a paid extra, he should just be part of the base game next time

[@umokwhy2830]

I'm like 80% sure she is in dmc4

[@Jasina85]

Josh just casually mentioning Sands of Time. God, I hope that one day that game's gonna get a Josh video.

[@TvRF20]

Good idea. Josh, do it.

[@stephengarforth2753]

evil business guys lines when he is juicing up are the best. especially when he says "Weeirrrreeghh" causing dante to get freaked out a little

[@dmas7749]

why does his voice change halfway through the story? idk but it's peak comedy

[@BuryTheLight-tds]

@@dmas7749 I think he might be going more and more insane just by the presence of Dante not talking, his absolute breaking point was the iconic "Weiirrrrrngggh" scene 😆

[@dmas7749]

@@BuryTheLight-tds so the reason arius is a villain is like "damn you were cool in DMC1 and now you don't talk at all time to destroy the world i guess" it really make you think about things we could've done differently

[@BuryTheLight-tds]

@@dmas7749 That, or he's always been an insane guy.

[@frorociousexpress]

for what its worth, DMC2 gave a lot a concepts that stuck with the series. Rebellion, wall running, rain storm,, and bloody palace. DMC2 having customizable DT and the "Majin" DT are cool concepts that should've stuck around imo but the fact we got DMC3 is a miracle

[@azhathzel89]

The dedication to actually GET THAT MAGAZINE is mindblowing... You sir, have earned a like, and this comment. May this channel grow until it eclipses the sun and we all wonder whether Josh the Smooth-talking shall devour existence itself with his retro reviews. Not a bad way to end it all, if one were to get the chance to choose.

[@blainealexander5091]

Oh wow, now his channel is going to get famous from your one like and comment. I’ll alert the media

[@SuperKendoman]

He just bought it on eBay...

[@CrimKayde]

I’m several million dollars in debt

[@Tekken4Life3]

Fun fact: Josh Strife actually bought the WRONG Play magazine. There was a Play magazine for the UK and one for the US (and from what I can tell different people owned the two publications). It was the US version of the magazine that gave the perfect score (a 5/5 instead of the 100/100 though but metacritic always rounds up to 100) and the UK version actually gave it a 82 (still too high for me but definitely a different score). You can actually see that score in the bottom right corner of the magazine at the end of the video. Josh seems to have made a mistake but decided to stick with the bit anyway.

[@Sigh95]

Josh is definitely the type of guy to have an Adventure Quest poster framed in his home

[@TheKaoticSanity]

IIRC during a stream he said that the devs made and sent him a custom poster with him as a character after his review

[@Dailo_Ma]

This is one of the few games that landed in "video game limbo" for me. It's absolutely unenjoyable, but so incredibly insignificant that I can't even call it bad. It's just a massive waste of time.

[@leithaziz2716]

It's the sort of game that fails in pretty much everything that there's not much interesting to really talk about. Let's just say it's not memorably bad the way something like Sonic 06 or Hunt Down The Freeman is.

[@bossabassa364]

this was my first devil may cry so I liked it lol

[@darkjackl999]

That's probably how I'd best describe my feeling when i beat dmc2 for the first time, especially when i realized i needed to beat it through again with Lucia, instantly just took it out of my xbox 360, just it in the case and went to do something else

[@jensenraylight8011]

but i like this Dante Character design, outfit and Hairstyle compared to DMC 5 Dante though

[@anothenblue2630]

@@jensenraylight8011 DMC5 Dante is hard to compare because he's way older and in a more realistic artstyle

[@amharbinger]

I remember when this game came out, 1 month later at my GameStop they had rows of used copies for less than $20.

[@ShadowCthulhu]

Dante's outfit and Despair Embodied are the best parts of DMC2.

[@leithaziz2716]

"Here's Your Crown" is also a legit badass line. That's pretty much all I have to praise.

[@ShadowCthulhu]

@@leithaziz2716 I did like how the fight ended with Despiar, your sword spinning in the air and Despair looking around confused.

[@lilimdeurella3659]

I have always considered the Despair Embodied the closest thing this game ever came to use its gameplay design to the fullest. You have to shoot, you have to dodge, you have to hit, and it feels GOOD when the motions start going.

[@StagFabulous]

The soundtrack has some legitimately excellent tracks, including the final boss theme. The Despair Embodied deserves to be in a better game.

[@derpmorederp1417]

His outfit was awful and the boss was mid

[@televisionist]

47:13 Lucia: "I do not deserve this power..." Dante: 👁👄👁 What a strange cut to have with nothing for the focused character to offer. On brand for this game.

[@joebojanic1905]

Waiting through that countdown for a "No" was hilarious. Lmao😂

[@FKATorp]

Might as well make "Was it Good? The Armenian Genocide" at this rate

[@iller3]

I mean just reading the Title alone was an instant belly laugh for me

[@KingLich451]

@@FKATorp Yeah but DMC2 is real, and unfortunately it exists.

[@Guimhj]

​@@KingLich451ok, denier

[@happyheliovi8496]

@@pppp-by1bq i kinda get what your trying to say but the first game did everything better than this one. it was the originator of the genre. personally i got this game the week it came out was years before i bothered to complete it. was so bored i went back to the first game

[@iamthehobo]

I watched your Golden Sun review just the other day because I happen to be replaying it and it's so funny hearing the difference in Puzzles between both games

[@TouchmeSan]

fun fact, you can actually get through the timed gate with out the quick heart. Since rolling is slightly faster than walking, thus making the quick heart truly useless

[@cybercop0083]

3D Zelda rules? Roll to the goal!

[@TaliZVasTyria]

36:11 "the most evil thing in existence, a businessman" ah ok so i got the idea where they get the thought of making mundus in that shitty DMC: Devil may cry reboot into a business man.... this game....

[@Kamunchu]

I was 12 or 13 when dmc came out. I was sold on it from an issue of game informer. DMC 2 broke my heart.

[@KrypticKodex]

Dmc 2 was my introduction into the series. It was also one of my first game completions next to sonic. It got me into skillful games, so I enjoyed it for what it was. Like pac man adventures.

[@Wakaboo14]

Didn't they call the game disappointing though?

[@umokwhy2830]

Dmc 2 just had a terrible story, the gameplay was fine.

[@atemdm-roleplaying9398]

I remember picking up games magazines as a kid, reading about games, the latest from conventions, the demo disks and so on. Back before internet was fast and cheap enough that was really the only way to get an overview of what was out there beyond word of mouth.

[@harlannguyen4048]

You didn't mention that if you beat the game on DMD mode, you unlock Trish from the first game, who now wields Devil Sword Sparta as her primary weapon. She shares the same moves as Alistor, and her guns no longer causes enemies to rise into the air from continuous fire.

[@keeganstormblade5456]

Its actually hard mode where you unlock Trish. DMD mode unlocks Dante's costume from the first game and the Secretary costume for Lucia.

[@SethJV]

Secretary costume? 👀

[@SinHurr]

Also, Trish's guns don't have the rate of fire limit that Dante's do, allowing the player to properly button mash like god intended.

[@JayceCH.]

To be fair, no one sane person would play through DMC2 a second time..

[@davidhan635]

​@@JayceCH.😂😂😂

[@АйдоралСмертестойкий]

We may never know the name of the original DMC2 director but we now know the name of the magazine he wrote the reviews for.

[@jonbourgoin182]

Arius looks like a young Heihachi from Tekken with that hair

[@PockyKaiNyah]

literally thought the same thing lol

[@leithaziz2716]

He looks like a cursed mesh of Kazuya and Heihachi. I would say Dante in Tekken could be a cool idea, but I think he'd fit better in Guilty Gear.

[@marccram2664]

Even soul caliber​@@leithaziz2716

[@TyRexDaQT]

11:15 “rEbelLioN” made me laugh so hard 😂

[@antshield]

This game is genius. Dante is SO Powerful at this point in his career, that nothing poses a challenge to him. Capcom made a power fantasy, putting the player in Dante's Diesel Jeans.

[@MarcinObuchowski]

Josh, you were supposed to be the one to bring my childhood dreams to LIIIIIIIIGHT

[@Maxpower644]

Hey that magazine talked about Tenchu: Wraith of Heaven! That game ruled.

[@blumiu2426]

It got hate on later for some choices it made. I liked it.

[@BlueJayNero]

I miss the Tenchu series, the last one I think came out was Tenchu Z, wish they'd make a reboot or remaster the classics.

[@Peachblink]

8:16 A few little details about this. The guns in DMC2 are actually *not* more powerful than in DMC1 damage wise. They can stunlock some enemies, yeah, but DMC1's guns are actually more potent in terms of damage, you gain more Devil Trigger from them, and when you are good at mashing in a rhythm, you can fire faster than in DMC2, combined with techniques such as shotgun/grenade cancelling raising their DPS so much further than it should. When it comes to DMC2's combat, Melee attacks actually deal more damage on average than guns, especially with the elemental amulets when on Devil Trigger, and there *are* cool combos in there, but are weighted down by bad feedback and animations, yet guns are so safe to use (on normal mode at least), while giving actual feedback and having satisfying animations, that they *feel* like they are even more overpowered than they actually are (that said, they still are too potent for their own good, juggling most enemies from a distance is too stupid). If anything, this game is a fascinating study on how bad feedback and animations (the entire melee combat system) can discourage the player from using tools that, all things considered, are more potent than the tools that have decent feedback and animations and show results immediately (guns in this game). For context, DMC1 never suffered from this, it was really good at giving appropiate feedback depending of the potency of attacks, both melee and range.

[@Itstwistedroots]

Your rant about the DMC bosses made me feel so good for having experienced it as a kid. ❤

[@Coudos]

That was 100% a game you played so we didn't have to. Started watching your videos last week and they are all great so far... Many thanks for the entertainment

[@Archangelm127]

The greatest sin a piece of entertainment can commit is to be boring.

[@JoshuaJacobs83]

I mean, painting pedophilia as a good thing is worse than boring. Showing a real sexual assault and calling it amateur porn like PH did is also bad. But yeah, boring is worse

[@HamStrokers-Ejacula]

@@JoshuaJacobs83 Wait who did WHAT now?

[@JoshuaJacobs83]

@@HamStrokers-Ejacula Porn Hub was caught with videos of real rapes and underage girls. Took years before they took her rape video down. And that's one of many

[@Archangelm127]

@@JoshuaJacobs83 What. The fuck. Is wrong. With you. Seriously. Do you need help? Are you okay?

[@Travis-it8yn]

​@JoshuaJacobs83 Can we get a bit of context for this please? You can't just throw a comment like that out there with no explanation buddy...

[@cylemmulo]

I appreciate this series so much. It's the perfect mix of a quick overview of a game and a let's play. Like I want to know how the game went in a detailed way without watching a 10 hour video.

[@greymattergaming5317]

I've never heard Uroboros pronounced that way in my life.

[@namechanged1]

That's because it's missing a letter, usually it's "ouroboros"

[@kaiba2_125]

the first video i watched on your channel was about dmc 1 and i loved it. i've been waiting for this one (and the other dmc games of course).

[@Thaltas]

Josh finally played DEE EEM CEE TOH in it's entirety before Vinyot ever finished his playthrough lol

[@dougneon9550]

"DAWNTAY AND GAWKOO BEST IN GAME!"

[@gingermcgingin4106]

EET EES GUD GAM DONTE SHÜTS DEE GUNZ

[@Harbluia]

Honestly I think "TOO" would've worked better instead of "TOH".

[@Qamikace]

dm beef stew

[@EliXMommyOcco]

i love theese videos they are really nice to fall asleep to no screaming just nice relaxed gameplay with a soothing voice i really hope one day i can make it as a video game reviewer cause i also have a real passion for video games i just dont have the money to get the equipment yet but its on the way!

[@copperbadge1]

Ngl, this is my favourite series of yours, Josh. Happy to support that.

[@Crowmanhunter]

Excellent video. As someone that couldn't make it past the first few hours, I've always wanted a deep dive into what made Devil May Cry 2 really bad from beginning to end, but could still present the information in an interesting and entertaining form. This was absolutely perfect.

[@SpringRaid]

You can simply leave the 1st helicopter fight. The game doesn't tell you, but you can. Hitting helicopter in melee deals more damage if you hit the part with the parasite eye. You can also do hard lock-on to cancel out soft lock-on and make hitting switches easier. Funny thing is that enemy AI is a little bit more awake on higher difficulties, which makes the game a little bit more fun to play.

[@TGHunter]

Consider the fact the game doesn't have an Easy mode. So Normal is just Easy. Ppl mostly play on normal and don't consider playing anymore of the game because of the difficulty, but literally hard and DMD are fun.

[@SpringRaid]

@@TGHunter Hard is definitely more fun, but the game overall is still quite awful. And some bosses on DMD are unfair/badly designed (Trismagia).

[@TGHunter]

@@SpringRaid How is Trismagia unfair in DMD? Is just a fight where you dodge one phase well, then attack the next. How is that bad? I already did multiple runs without any upgrades in DMD and Trismagia was never a problem. Most of the boss fights work so much better than any other DMC game, its just Heli, that spinning room, that Wasp and first phase of Argosax blob... And that's better than multiple boring and annoying stuff from DMC1, 3 and 5. Also, yea, Bolverk is a cool boss fight, but shit, that camera is wack in his first encounter.

[@SpringRaid]

@@TGHunter My issue with it was inability to change targets.

[@Davids_Stalidzans]

the most concise and resolute video I've seen. Truly 11 seconds was enough.

[@korosheht5446]

Finally, ive been waiting for too long for some very analytic video that someone spent many hours making just to put it on the background and sleep Thanks josh

[@albertosara416]

Thank you for the video Josh. I got all the Devil May Cry games on Steam, I remember playing 3 as a kid on the PS2 and recently I got curious about them. Beat the first one, enjoyed the atmosphere and gameplay a lot. Jumped into the second one, and other than a few cool things it was a tiresome experience. Started Lucia's playthrough and I was already too burnt out to finish, and that was it. After watching this, though, I'll jump back at 3 and finish from there. Thanks man! Great review

[@eherden2169]

To think I played this game on the PS2 in Dante Must Die difficulty (where your guns no longer properly juggle enemies), I was truly a masochist. I don't remember anything from the game compared to Devil May Cry 1, it must be my self preservation instinct kicking in for my own good. Thank you Josh for your sacrifice on experiencing true suffering with us.

[@ghostrider654321]

I hope he does all of the other games as well. This series is great. Thanks Josh

[@Karakuioshi]

Devil May Cry 2 has done 9 things right: 1. Dante's outfit 2. Dante has probably the best jump/aerial movement in whole series 3. Ability to shoot at two different enemies at the same time which was in some way a start/basis for gunslinger style 4. Ability to dodge and wallrunning (which is not that useful but looks cool) with circle button 5. Ability to change weapons (only guns for some reason) 6. Aim lock (which if you want to stop aiming at enemy you have to hold L2 from what I remember which is VERY WIERD) 7. "King? Yeah, here's your crown" 8. Dante's DT looks the best in the whole series 9. Some music is really great (but other sucks so hard like f.e. JOKAGTULM or whatever the name was theme) In lots of ways DMC 2 has been a bit of a Demo for abilities used later in DMC 3.

[@LeeONardo]

DMC1 did have weapon switch, but only for the sword and gauntlets. I will also add that yes, for the UK having 60hz was a big plus. DMC1 was letterboxed and very sluggish. Also DMC2 altered the control layout to the default used for the rest of the series, DMC1's layout was awful. I will certainly join you in saying DMC2 Dante is peak design. Good lord he looks so f'king badass.

[@FrOg-gn9ck]

What about the sin devil trigger, it came back in dmc5

[@matthewbailey9405]

You are honestly my favourite game reviewer right now. Can't wait for the next!

[@Frog_Mimic]

That sponsor moment cracked me up so bad. 10/10

[@baronzgiraffe5361]

Horizon Zero Dawn... I sunk 20 awesome hours into it during my down time related to Destiny 2 a couple years ago. When a new season or expansion came out for D2, I left HZD and have thought about it ever since. When I eventually just jumped back into it from my last save, it was awful because all of the learned mechanics were forgotten and the story itself was all forgotten at this point too 😭 my motivation for finishing is to finally be able to play the second game, but I may just have to fully restart this game or watch lore up to the point that I am and just retrain myself on the gameplay mechanics. I wanted your solutions to work for me on this sooooo bad. Even though they didn't, the video was still really awesome! Great watch 😊

[@greyshadow9848]

Genuinely surprised this is even getting an episode I don’t think I’ve ever seen ANYONE defend this game or say it was any good at all.

[@guyincognito8437]

I loved it. Like an arcade version of DMC I could just drop into without a massive time investment.

[@RealKaukus]

Look into the comment section. Some people defend it unironically

[@devildante9]

@@guyincognito8437 What kind of brainrot do you have to consider playing any DMC game to be a "massive time investment"? How exactly does it feels like an "arcade" version of any DMC? DMC is already, by definition, arcady, it even has a style system. This isn't gran turismo versus burnout, DMC already is burnout. This is just "hold square until enemy dies", it isn't any different from playing flappy bird.

[@guyincognito8437]

@@devildante9 DMC1 was a time investment as it was difficult as fuck. I'm not saying it negatively, it's just a matter of fact. DMC2 I could play just whenever and it was easy and forgettable like an arcade game.

[@wickedraptor2651]

​@@guyincognito8437Default PFP's holding awful opinions? Couldnt be

[@farkasmactavish]

Putting up the endcard early is my absolute favorite KZbinr gag.

[@xknightmare013]

When I was 6 and this was my first devil may cry I didn’t know any better and this was peak and my favorite game

[@jozefmolnar893]

Dunno I played DMC1 as well yet I was blown away by this game. The showoff gunslinging action, sin devil trigger, I guess that was cool for me back then. But boy I can't deny the flaws that Josh points out... Shees this was a shit version of DMC

[@mesa176750]

Make sure to do your service back to the internet and scan that review to the internet archive for all to laugh and remember

[@tenyokensekia8088]

If any of you were wondering why the guns are so ludicrously overpowered in this one, check out Matt Mcmuscles video: "Wha happun? Devil may cry 2" A short cliffnotes version: Focus groups complained about the guns feeling too weak in the first game. So they actually gave the game the opposite problem instead of telling those loonies they were playing a spectacle fighter.

[@blainealexander5091]

I actually like how the guns work here. But they should have balanced everything else like have some enemies immune to bullets or having the sword work better for certain enemies. Who doesn’t love duel wielding though?

[@tenyokensekia8088]

@@blainealexander5091 Oh I love how dante uses them too, but I agree. There is one enemy in DM3 that you have to make solid by shooting, then you melee them. More stuff like that would have been great. Basically just making all of Dante's arsenal useful.

[@blainealexander5091]

@@tenyokensekia8088 I agree 100 percent

[@maximos905]

It's not the the guns are overpowered it's that the enemies are plain and don't take any strategy to take down. All of their mechanics are the same

[@tenyokensekia8088]

@@maximos905 I'd say being able to stunlock all enemies with just Ebony and Ivory makes them pretty dang overpowered.

[@anakoART]

I'm sorry to admit that I really enjoy your bitter sarcasm when a game makes you angry. Wait, I'm im fact not sorry.

[@lyooyiylklykyokyklky]

Devil May Cry aside, the front of that Play magazine also has Time Crisis 3,Tenchu Wrath of Heaven and Soul Calibur 2. That's a trio of absolute top games that DMC had to compete against and they still gave it 100%!?

[@Tekken4Life3]

Well...no. Time Crisis 3 and SC2 both got previews that issue. Tenchu got a 93 and DMC2 actually got an 82 (still too high but not perfect grade too high). It seems Josh bought the wrong Play magazine (UK version vs US version which were owned by different people) for this video. You can clearly see the 82 in the bottom-right corner of the left page of the magazine at the end of this essay.

[@Maggerama]

Well, at least it's obvious that you had fun making this video! I love it when you get the chance to be sardonic. You're good at that.

[@SuperSky9]

Devil May Cry 2 has the same theme as DmC Devil May Cry LOL. Except DMC2 gave us prototypes of mechanics which will be used in DMC 3 and more importantly, The Rebellion sword, as Dante's signature weapon.

[@keyman245]

DMC Devil may cry actually has some stuff that carried over to DMC 5, take an example: narrator saying your rank out loud

[@SuperSky9]

@@keyman245 That's pointless as it was in DmC.

[@keyman245]

@@SuperSky9 It's really counter productive to hate on a game because some things are bad. The story is yucky but the free flow combat is real fluid, the enemies are interesting the weapons are nice, the two different grabs are awesome to set up combos Oh and the combos and animations are really good, pair with the narrator talking about your style meter The only bad things about this game is the overall story (but there's still gold burried deep within) and how Dante does not have cloak physics, it's simulated on his animations so sometimes his jacket teleports around if you pay attention

[@keyman245]

@@SuperSky9 DMC Devil may cry is still a better game than 2. Even the rough lore can be considered better (Dante may be edgy, but he isn't completely boring and brooding just awkward and goofy)

[@KasumiRINA]

@@keyman245 there's no way people claim DmC DMC is superbad while being self-aware, while it does same weird stuff all other games do. Combat was better than in 4, story is AS CORNY as in other games as well. Dante is equally gay as he always is.

[@torvamessorem6686]

Hi Josh, happy to see you upload again. I would very much like to see you do Koudelka. A unique game to this day, blending survival horror with turn based rpg.

[@lazydgsf7429]

I appreciate coverage of games like this. This is precisely a game I’ll never play but I find your takes interesting.

[@Rairosu]

Yea because DMC2 represents what DMC 4 and 5 are clearly are in YOUR head. When in reality they do not. DMC4 and DMC4 are not even closely like DMC2. So you can't compare them. No contest.

[@Aplesedjr]

⁠@@Rairosudo you maybe want to try that comment again?

[@gabrielnedev8898]

I recently finished DMC and decided to go straight to DMC2 because I really enjoyed the first game. The difference in gameplay, presentation, visuals, combat and story were night and day. I got to the 2 wolves battle, stopped and came to watch this video. I don't think I'll be completing it, I'll just go to DMC3 because I heard it was the best in the PS2 series.

[@Shane_Bozelie]

The first Devil May Cry, was almost a metroidvania, with an mission based style. Which combines a small world, but still expanding what we can explore, they did the same in 3, you revisit some scenes giving the feeling of a contained world and scenery. It was lovely, I missed it really in Devil May Cry 4 and 5.

[@MrOrdosan]

20sec. fastest vid yet. cant wait for more. seriously, I been waiting for this suffering since you did DMC1.

[@Barnesofthenorth]

The only part I actually remember liking about this, as somebody who played both characters, was the ending where Dante flips the coin to decide who goes into Hell and it turns out to be a double headed coin so he was always going. It was a bit cheesy but still a fairly Dante thing to do. The rest was utter crap and I don't know how I played it all.

[@blainealexander5091]

I still would like to know what the hell happened down there.

[@turbo8628]

Still getring no notifications for this channel despite being subbed for ages and having notifcations turned on. I will always be late, but i will always be here eventually. Great content.

[@Wyrrlicci]

now I can't wait for him to cover DMC 3... like the first game was awesome. The second game was absolute shite but that 3rd game... it EASILY the best in the series .

[@Dorrovian]

DMC 3 or 5, endless debate starts ;)

[@Wyrrlicci]

@@Dorrovian bro facts! 3 and 5 are BOTH god tier!

[@teh0wnz0r76]

sry but 1 still better than 3

[@Wyrrlicci]

@@teh0wnz0r76 that is the dumbest sentence I've ever read that was not posted on twitter. XD

[@teh0wnz0r76]

@@Wyrrlicci cool

[@jeanclaudevanslamme]

@1:06:23 I played this game when I was , and I was also frustrated by this section - but you can knock the fire back with the jumping and slam down leg attack! That and the boss blob are my only memories of this game. Watching this makes me realize that when I RENTED THIS FROM BLOCKBUSTER I definitely shouldn't have bothered using a coupon to be able to return it a day late.

[@LungEater]

57:00 in dante must die mode, every boss uses its attacks on you all at the same time. Its basically impossible to not get hit unless you stand in a very specific spot where youre out of range of most attacks and just fire the missile lsuncher. Yes i played through the game on dante must die. Its actually somewhat fun on that mode

[@Parnyr]

Thank you very much for sharing this experience :D

[@aihf]

I know it's not a good game, but I always had a soft soft for it. It's the only DMC game that I actually liked walking around in. The archtecture and liminality gave it a tone completely opposite to the rest of the series. Plus, you get to fight a demon skyscraper. I can't hate it.

[@thorinhannahs4614]

My guilty pleasure version of DMC2 is Chaos Legion. I know it isn't good, but by god, did I enjoy the summoner part of it. As for DMC2, yeah, it is bad, and my young teenager brain couldn't process why I managed to get to the hardest difficulty before the five day rental period was up.

[@tenyokensekia8088]

@@thorinhannahs4614 Hey, you aren't the only one. I actually liked that game too. Well, back in the day anyway. I doubt it holds up now. Cool premise though.

[@Lirka_906]

Same here. I liked not game for all the non gameplay things. The soundtrack is amazing, the architecture, character designs and just the mood running around the areas. And Dante’s outfit is amazing! The only part of the gameplay that I do really loved was the acrobatics. Running up walls then flipping of and shooting ll the enemies underneath you was awesome!

[@tenyokensekia8088]

@@Lirka_906 The design team clearly had cool ideas, just not the experience to implement them well.

[@testtickle2431]

22:30 "you cant run back fast enough" you actually can, because i didnt know you could enter that door as a kid, and even as an adult i didnt know, until i was going for the achievements in the HD collection and needed to collect all the amulet pieces, and didnt know wtf i was missing

[@JR18489]

Cracking F1 race, England win and now Josh is uploading. What a time to be alive!!!

[@riccardocalosso5688]

Ngl, i was expecting the exact same skit you put in the beginning of the video, but i really thought you would say yes. Never have i ever been so thoroughly surprised and unsurprised at the same time.😂 It is ultimately on me, because i was confusing dmc2 with dmc1, which i actually played, so that explain my surprise!

[@geronimo5515]

0:20 you too! great video, favorited, liked, unsubbed and resubscribed

[@4tr0phy]

This is such an interesting video from my perspective. In my neighborhood/little group of middle school kids, Devil May Cry 2 was literally the only one in the series that anyone I knew owned, and it was regarded by everyone as totally badass. I had no idea it had a bad reputation more generally. I was under the impression DMC2 was considered one of the best games on PS2

[@ingvarsuigin609]

"Why climb the building just to jump off of it after the fight?" -No, that's completely normal for Dante - DMC3 is about climbing a tower, then jumping off of it.. And getting eaten by a whale in mid-fall

[@remingtonsloan8331]

Yo! An Adventure Quest Worlds poster! That's so cool!

[@AgentSquirrelA]

Holy cow the back of the play magazine ad. Battle Engine Aquila, that hits hard!

[@lupusalbus3795]

To be fair, "press forward and sometimes square to progress" does sound like a dream game for a games journalist.

[@chriswolfe351]

I recently got into the DMC series because it was on sale. I've gotten through the first game, and I played it mostly because I was told that you should go through them in order, though skipping DMC2. I enjoyed Devil May Cry a lot more than I expected, considering that I played it to get to the next one. My only real complaint about the first game was the camera angles, and the weird control issues that came with moving to the spot where the camera angle changed. I'm now on DMC 3, and a lot of the things I thought were weird about how DMC worked make a lot more sense now. For example, on the first game I would fight bosses by activating devil trigger and just trying to burn them down, but on the three I find it a lot easier to learn the bosses moves and counter them.

[@DarknessD42]

Remember: Real gamers never skip DMC2

[@tenyokensekia8088]

I'll cop to not being a real gamer then.

[@SainEdge]

@@tenyokensekia8088 It's a reference to the crowbat video for DMC2 with the same name. Pretty funny video.

[@tenyokensekia8088]

@@SainEdge Oh ok!

[@Maiden.less.]

Funny enough, i bought the DMC HD Collection and DMC2 just instantly crashes despite all fixes that work for 1 and 3

[@SethJV]

Real gamers don't play that shitty series 💀

[@captainbenzie]

Ah man, DMC2. I remember that article, getting so excited after DMC1, spending all my pocket money and... Yeah. Great breakdown. Have you considered doing a play through of Alundra? Amazing art style, exceptional story, difficult and clever dungeons... It's a really beautiful Zelda-like on PS1, horrifically underrated.

[@L.K.48]

"whenever you're having fun, take a shot" Every alcoholic: "this is the best game ever"

[@_mwk]

Oh, so THAT's how it got a 100 review score

[@AlaskanGamerGuy]

Why? Because they'd already be drunk, thus making it fun?

[@L.K.48]

@@AlaskanGamerGuy please don't make me explain the joke, ask the next best person instead

[@rize2874]

This joke makes no sense mate, the game's boring, they are gonna be sober through the whole playthrough, josh made the joke right why did you try to remake it?

[@L.K.48]

@@rize2874 Oh but it does make sense, here, let me explain: The alcoholic will lie about it being so much fun because he wants to get drunk, hence why he says that it's the best game ever (= it's so much fun). I'll admit you can misunderstand it, I should've worded it differently.

[@PeterPipe-l3c]

1:02:46 wait uroboros from resi 5? How many years earlier did this come out? Is this a reference of sorts?

[@DukeOfJam7591]

"Was it good" and a new Noah Caldwell-Gervais video in the same day!? My birthday isn't until next week but I'll take this early gift

[@SirSabzZa]

Mines next week too! Have a great one buddy!

[@RenegadePronoun]

Bruh I didn't even know Noah uploaded, and I have the "every video" bell notification turned on. Thanks!!!

[@stelarfoil71]

Josh just sold me on gamersupps with that sponsor segment.

[@stephenanthony5923]

For anyone interested, Thorhighheels did a video about his personal appreciation for DMC2 aesthetics. Maybe the DMC2 apologist want to check him out. Shout out to Thorhighheels

[@Thaltas]

Shout out to the King of Mysterious Juegos appreciation

[@devildante9]

Ahhh yes, the classic "it has good aesthetic so it's a good game", just like the DMC reboot.

[@leithaziz2716]

@@devildante9 I am a semi DmC hater, but the game has legitimately great level design. It's more akin to the Greek God of War games in that aspect. Something I sadly can't say about the mainline games past the 1st DMC. It falls short on other aspects (less in-depth combat, color-coded enemies, obnoxious lead), but I have to be fair with what the game gets right/wrong.

[@kakizakichannel]

Thorhighheels also thinks Drakengard series is good.

[@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it]

we do not care. dmc fans dont care about ppl who think theyre smarter than others " the i think its good bcuz" ppl are boring and pathetic

[@Poiznervo]

"it's not an advert - this is the sponsored bit!" Hahaha that was ace xD

[@levimcgillis6339]

Binney pls PLay DEE EMM SEA TWO

[@DavexScott88]

Regarding 39:10 about being locked onto enemies while trying to hit switches, you can "unlock" by holding R2. You then can freely hit the switches.

[@plumfadoodle4908]

Even as someone who has never even seen footage of this game before, I was blown away with how otherly boring and generic the game looked. Nothing appealing about the set design and then a nonsensical story with many pointless events due to the lack of telling you anything. And the railroading that is really bad for the powerset, as if the powers were an afterthought. The invisible walls felt especially bad in this video. The crappy gameplay is just the big thing on top of all of that. I can see why fans don't like this game.