Was John Lennon An A$$hole?

[@jeanmyers1787]

Julian said Paul was more of a father to him than John.

[@RobertBush-cb1gz]

Always suspicions of Paul giving Cyn a toss - And she did bang Magic Alex after he got her drunk. -Hell it was the 60s and wife swapping was going on - George did Ringos wife and only Krishna knows what Patty, Eric, and George had gotten up to.

[@TheNewSoda]

9:37 George Harrison said it the best John was an angel and a bastard

[@bumsharvest5493]

Yes, I heard George say that about John. Actually, many artists, as with all people, have things in their past that don't look too good. It doesn't take away their good contributions.

[@julianciahaconsulting8663]

problem is that woke idiots have to have a didactic universe hence their inability to understand that a real human being can be very good and very bad. That complicates the simplistic left way of classifying people

[@kentduryea7109]

In other words... two faced. Can't stand people like that. Lennon was lousy at telling the truth. A jerk through and through. Glad he's gone at an early age. Don't miss that weirdo a bit.

[@michaelmiller7160]

George is an ace hole too, who loves to put down artists that he could never become. I just liked some of the Beatles songs based on my personal tastes. I never assumed that John's anti-war stance made him a nice guy. Who the heck would? I would never not like a song by George just because I don't like him much. I don't work that way. He's a fine guitarist .. and he wrote 5 songs that I love but not the ones most love. While My Guitar Gently Sleeps in not one I like. I don't like his solo stuff but for My Sweet Lord (and I feel certain there is no god). Love the sound of the song "If I Needed Someone" and "I Need You". Yeah, George Martin might have helped him there as he nurtured most Beatles songs. And John helped him with a line or two (kidding).

[@stoveboltlvr3798]

I always figured him to be the latter.

[@jeanmyers1787]

If you’re looking for A holes try Phil Spector.

[@stoveboltlvr3798]

Phil Sphincter.

[@ConnieB-ig4ds]

Pills, Pills and more pills. Spector passed away recently.

[@calvinkaminski29]

And Brian Jones 😅

[@DEE-o4v]

Maybe more like "crazy"?...or a "crazy asshole"?

[@ConnieB-ig4ds]

@@DEE-o4v Guess sometimes egocentric talented personalities get rubbed the wrong way easily.

[@Mark65845]

As an Uber driver, John Lennon entertains me for hours per day while I’m working. I think that he’s great because he makes my workday fun. It’s sad that we lost this great man too soon. I wish he was still with us; I can’t imagine what great things he would have done if he had lived. The planet is poorer without him.

[@KenFullman]

I don't think he had much more to give. His best was already in his past. You can fantasise that he may have produced more but he was already washed up.

[@Burtifly]

Great songs off his last albums. ​@@KenFullman

[@sugarplumenigma4850]

Nobody cares

[@MIB_63]

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[@MIB_63]

​@KenFullman I have to disagree. Just because his last album wasn't on par with his very best doesn't mean that he had nothing left to offer. He was filled with enthusiasm and inspiration when he was assasinated. IMHO he could easily have released more masterpieces if he had lived

[@ginapiroli6136]

Sorry to be an asshole, but John Lennon, Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr, and even George Harrison are not Baby Boomers. All were born before 1946.

[@Andregrindle]

thank you. This is a wonderful video but your absolutely right Gina. I'm in my 40s now. I think for people 8-9 years or more younger than I? The word boomer has become shorthand for any senior citizen. But no, that's not its meaning. It's a very specific generation of people. But otherwise, Drewberg's video is excellent and important on how we deal with celebrity idolotry.

[@airmark02]

Like most 60's Super Stars, they were war babies not boomers.

[@marylouleeman591]

@@ginapiroli6136 party pooper Go home.

[@SarahWildes-do9qw]

They were the silent generation.

[@joeanthony7759]

Close enough to be boomer-icons, I guess

[@nowhereman6496]

He was human. He wasn't perfect. In fact, his strength was his brutal honesty about himself. So, he'd be the first person to admit he was no saint and could be an asshole. Having not been a close friend or relative of his I really don't care if he was an asshole. It never affected me. Besides, we're all assholes from time to time. Who cares. What I do know is that he was a great artist with ideas that sometimes contradicted his own life. With that being said, his music and art has given me a lifetime of enjoyment. That's all I needed from John.

[@marcusphelan57]

Well said. I'm not watching this pointless clickbait stuff, no matter how highly it promotes itself as "scientific."

[@Thorrson7]

Absolutely correct, mate. 🙌👍👏👏👏

[@drjerry5389]

I had a similar wake-up call regarding how my grandpa treated my grandma and dad after he passed away. Growing up, my grandpa was my hero-he spoiled me with love and kindness, and I admired his achievements, especially as a decorated WWII veteran. But after he died, my dad revealed the truth: my grandpa had been a drinking, abusive father who treated my grandma cruelly at times. He stopped drinking and smoking a few years before I was born and became a better person, but hearing about what my dad endured as a child was devastating. It reminded me that people are complex, and when drugs or alcohol are involved, as with John Lennon and so many others, they can act in ways that are incredibly cruel.

[@richardsoderkvist6383]

People like John Lennon the other Beattles Elvis and others they were human. They had their faults and they had their good points also.

[@ADayInTheLifeofMrsPerkins]

John ALWAYS 100% admitted he's only human. He wore his ❤on his sleeve and was brutally honest.

[@soapopera3139]

John Lennon was not a "boomer". He was part of the "Silent Generation"

[@dakidd729]

Yes, you are correct of course. This guy and his "research" show what an absolute bozo he is.

[@airmark02]

They were War Babies

[@MaryBywaters]

@@airmark02 Indeed

[@VanirTraditionalist]

Technically of course. But in modern speak amongst Gen X and younger “boomer” refers to anyone over the age of 60 or so. The term has taken on its own meaning.

[@elowishusmirkatroid4898]

There is a big difference in the outlook, mentality and lifestyles of the Boomers compared to the previous generation now in their late 70s 80s and 90s. Havent you noticed?

[@charlotteburns7143]

If John Lennon hurt his wife, Cynthia, his girlfriend, May Pang, the other Beatles, etc., that's one thing. They were grown ups and we all get hurt by friends and lovers. But when you hurt a child that's another thing. John Lennon deeply hurt his son, Julian. He didn't communicate with him for years. Julian was expected to do all the traveling to visit his dad. As Julian said, "All you need is love, but where's the love from my dad." Yoko Ono impresses me a total opportunist and user (both literally and figuratively). I've heard she kept him under her thumb with heroin. I could care what John Lennon did in his life, but his neglect for his son is unconscionable.

[@christinelee4780]

Exactly! John was the adult who had choices. Julian was just a little boy back then

[@ggghhhbbnjjjbb2330]

You seem to have forgotten the spite of a bitter woman who refuses to let the father see his child, with the full backing of the state. It hasn't happened to me, but it's quite common I understand. He was reported to have even said it in this video. Having said that, I don't much like Lennon or his music or politics. He was an early-adopter of the globalist psyop, and a shameless virtue-signaller and narcissist. Just listen to the lyrics of that horrible song 'Imagine'.

[@robinfoster7597]

You know Cynthia wouldn't allow John access to Julian unless she was actually there?? How many divorced couples are expected to take their ex wife/husband away with them?? John and Julian were just rebuilding their relationship when John was murdered. On top of that, I heard a Paul McCartney interview the other day, where he said that Cynthia had said she just wanted John to be a "pipe and slippers man"! Clearly, that was never going to happen.

[@michaelmiller7160]

@@robinfoster7597 Good point, but John should have changed his will to show more love for Julian. And it should have stun-gunned John at some point to say, "I've got to make this up to Julian fast, rather than let the relationship evolve slowly."

[@Frank_the_skank]

Agreed.

[@kingcassius2586]

He was who he was and didn't try to hide it.

[@mvwmark8955]

Yep, he was who he was, they were who they were, it is what it is.

[@katznkittens]

The worst was his attitude towards Julian, even after he acknowledged he’d been a lousy abusive dad. Saying he was a product of the bottle. Giving Sean all his attention, writing songs about him, while acting like he only had one son.

[@christopherstarr8050]

He was an alcoholic and drug addict . and addictive people are self centered in the extreme . Being a recovered alcoholic . I can attest to this.

[@thejoyofthemusicinmylife7897]

There has been other musicians, actors, writers and over all famous people who were A holes. John was still a work in progress when he died. It is in his two sons who turned out to be the person that John was working on to who he wanted to be. .

[@MichaelBoltonsEntireCatalog]

Good call. Every person is an incomplete work, but many times the next generation corrects the course.

[@marygersten862]

He made millions by being a hypocrite. Did he admit it? Did he say, this is my private self and my public self?

[@beatlesforever69]

@thejoyofthemusicinmylife7897 - Good point! John wasn't around so he doesn't that credit. You can thank Yoko for raising Sean and Cynthia for raising Julian. I do think John would be tight with Julian again had he lived. It's a shame...tons of what ifs since his tragical passing.

[@ThomasFranz100]

Rule No.1: Never meet your heroes. Rule No. 2: Try to distinguish art and artist.

[@azadmajors2098]

Dylan, Zappa, Prince not assholes? lol..

[@michele-33]

They aren't the subject of this video.. Lennon is, LOL !!!

[@ZakeenaMajeed]

@@michele-33 Did you watch the video? The narrator made the ridiculous comment that Lou Reed, Dylan, Zappa, Prince were not assholes.. That is what he is commenting on..

[@julianciahaconsulting8663]

or Mick Jagger or Pete Townshend or Neil Young and on and on it goes right up to current generations of rich musicians...i am sure that every male rap and r&b are assholes too, same with male heavy metal stars.

[@johnh1927]

@@ZakeenaMajeed Lou Reed was an arrogant asshole, shot up on stage and died from Hep C liver damage. The Velvet Underground were years ahead of their time.

[@jackd6881]

@@ZakeenaMajeed I think he was saying that with a bit of sarcasm.

[@ChristineDaisley]

No adult should bring a child into the world & abandon that child, period. Julian had to fight Yoko to get any inheritance due to John's neglect; even had to buy back letters written to his mother. That would quality, yes.

[@Glenn-mq8ts]

I always thought he was an A-hole, but he knew his stuff.

[@natomblin]

Lennon wasn't a boomer; born in 1940. Boomers are 1946 - 1964.

[@dakidd729]

Don't confuse him with actual facts. He thinks he's cool

[@toneloc-cz2xi]

He was THE boomer inspiration so same difference - heavily responsible for the a$$holery of that entire (de) gen

[@natomblin]

@@toneloc-cz2xi Example?

[@dakidd729]

@@toneloc-cz2xi Like Tone Loc?

[@rickmilam413]

He was brilliant. How ironic that the self proclaimed leader of the peace movement was in fact often vicious, abusive and cruel. Love much of his music with the Beatles but don't respect him as a person. Actually I don't care much for Paul either, for different reasons. Again, he was brilliant. At age 70 my absolute favorite was Ringo, the only one who didn't attack and wasn't attacked by the others. George was not as mellow as his reputation is during the early days. Probably the most abused of them, largely due to Paul.

[@LearnwithGern2025]

He beat his first wife, called his manager terrible things about his sexuality, and abandoned his own son. Hmmm, hard to say.

[@TheCliffandPhilShow]

Typical bot comment.

[@str.77]

One of these three is not like the others.

[@KenFullman]

It gets worse when you realise she supported him through the worst times when he was a nobody. He was so narcisistic he didn't even realise how important she'd been. I'm convinced that, without her support he'd have remained a nobody.

[@TheCliffandPhilShow]

@@KenFullman Highly doubtful. :)

[@Venusandjupiteinunion6434]

Get it right for Godsake. John slapped his then GIRLFRIEND (NOT WIFE) Cynthia Powell. He begged her forgiveness and they got back together.

[@michaelterry1000]

This is a new level of ridiculousness 12:32 "Lennon was jealous of his wife's creativity" ?? If so, all that I can say is that he must have really been on some hard drugs.

[@gaetanomaximus8650]

Probably true, as no sane, rational person could possibly be impressed with Yoko's total lack of creativity... But John saw talent in her that wasn't there. He and he alone considered her mindless screaming as music. I ascribe it to witchcraft.

[@barryledgister4496]

Lennon wasn`t jealous, but admired her cache in the serious art world while he was in a rock band. I think he admired her ideas and concepts. He was a former art student, he admired artists. Yoko was very creative with words, and musical ideas, and maybe coming from Japan gave her another angle to looking at the world that John admired.

[@chuckschillingvideos]

Lennon was jealous of anyone else's happiness, particularly those close to him. Lennon was a distinctly unhappy and morose character who took it as a personal challenge to make sure those around him became that way too.

[@nancyyovina6726]

She turned John on to H she was evil

[@niqueth]

You don’t get it.

[@natomblin]

Lou Reed wasnt an asshole?

[@jasonhoffer9017]

Or Frank Zappa for that matter?

[@airmark02]

Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, Keith Richards....the list goes on & on

[@waynekenworthy5391]

Lou Reed was the biggest self important asshole! He once said the Beatles were shit! What an asshole...

[@ApartmentKing66]

@@airmark02 Joni Mitchell was an asshole?

[@robertorick6383]

@@ApartmentKing66 She fought with Bob Dylan, Neil Young, and yes, even John Lennon, so she had issues too. She's a great musician, but she's human, too, not a saint. Joni also disliked Judy Collins for turning "Both Sides Now" into a pop hit, saying it was "too commercial for my tastes."

[@KatharineShaw-z8u]

Yes John was but so were Paul and George. It wasn't their solo careers or personal lives that prevented the Beatles reuniting in the 1970s it was their arrogant and long held grudges that stopped it from happening.

[@RichardCook-on3gf]

John had his faults as we all do. He could be abrasive but also warm and soft. His hard edge, as he stated, was the result of projecting through fear. Being in the band from mid teens until almost 30 with the group becoming a major phenomenon by the time he was 23 had a major impact on him. He had emotional issues as he lost many people he loved. So he had to put up a defense mechanism to protect himself. At the height of Beatle mania he worried about the future knowing the group would not last but just s few years. This insecurity was reflected in many songs. When they broke up he was relieved but still insecure about the future and wanted to be known for more than just being a Beatle, which he had come to terms with the last few years of his life.

[@marylouleeman591]

It started to show when he got with Oh, no! Looking back he was a class jerk all along. I am grateful that he and Paul.were able to collaborate and bring us a whole new music. Thank you!

[@DEE-o4v]

In regards to HOW awful he treated his first wife and his son - a RESOUNDING YES, he was an asshole. Absolutely and completely.

[@BrockLanders-u9g]

He was not a 'Boomer'. He was part of the Silent Generation. I'm 58 and my parents were born in 1939 - less than a year before Lennon was born and part of the same generation as the Beatles. I'm an early part of Generation X, which is smaller in numbers like the Silent Generation.

[@michaelharrington75]

Yep. The "silent generation" really had a lot to say. They created and pioneered a new genre of music, and actually had an influence on the world around them. Especially the Beatles.

[@Glenn-mq8ts]

If you were born in 1950 you were into Elvis, if you were born in 1954 you were into the Beatles.

[@Venusandjupiteinunion6434]

Yes thats right. Mr. Know it all got that wrong, John was a 'war baby'

[@johngoodall1926]

@@Venusandjupiteinunion6434 Bob Dylan, Germaine Greer, Mick Jagger. The list is endless. It wasn’t all Baby Boomers. In fact their culture was shaped by an earlier generation. Of course lots of influentials followed soon after.

[@davehoward22]

@@Glenn-mq8ts my parents were born in 1950 and were into the beatles and stones

[@stalekvale5151]

In an interview with Sean and Julian from 2015 they were asked what their father`s best side was. Both got quiet for some seconds and said "nothing"

[@Venusandjupiteinunion6434]

I have heard them both say positive things about their Dad,

[@toneloc-cz2xi]

@@Venusandjupiteinunion6434 Well, it's impolite no too - doent mean he was a good guy tho - he obvs was NOT

[@Venusandjupiteinunion6434]

@@toneloc-cz2xi Says you, don't agree, and said by someone who doesn't have a clue about John's life story.

[@TrottersPad]

​@@Venusandjupiteinunion6434Julian has said plenty about what an awful father he was, although he said he respected his father as a musician

[@pam8962]

Paul was my favorite as a solo artist

[@ronchase1673]

Stu Suttciffes sister maintains that John was responsible for her brothers death

[@stevebird9510]

oh of course , it's always someone else's fault. Stu quit the Beatles to concentrate on painting which was his first love. How could John Lennon possibly have caused Stu to have a brain Hemorrhage ?

[@ronchase1673]

@@stevebird9510 it’s not me saying it’s Stu’s sister saying he kicked him in the head

[@robertcartwright563]

I read this too, l was stunned. John verbally abused Epstein making homophobic remarks.

[@Peter-hi6ur]

I love john lennon but if he was a truck driver he would not be excused for some of the things he did but a famous Person can be excused fame turns you into an angel

[@thomastimlin1724]

Same for politicians, especially ones who operate like a Mafia Boss. We live in a warped doubled standard society and have have been for decades, no, hundreds, no, thousands of years. Goes back to George Orwell's Animal Farm book :"All animals are equal. Some animals are more equal than others,"

[@Venusandjupiteinunion6434]

Well it would have been a personal matter, I supposed to becoming front page news that's for sure. Oh by the way even if he'd have been a truck driver and I'd have met him I still would have thought he was handsome oops did I say that😅

[@VIDSTORAGE]

John was messed up since his childhood by parents that ignored him and it made him be on the edge and ready to pounce at anything that triggered him ..

[@D-FensDogG]

"John Lennon used to pee out of the hotel window onto pedestrians." ~ Brenda Lee 'Little Miss Dynamite' - chapter 11, page 167

[@houndlander]

Oh I believe it! 😂😂😂.

[@toneloc-cz2xi]

Proper c unit

[@hollynorris957]

I’m a lifelong Beatle maniac. I’m 69 yrs old now. John was and is my biggest influence other than my family. I idolized him and all the Beatles but it was always John. At this stage of my life I can clearly see why the big connection. My father and I had no chance. From 5 yrs on he more or less abandoned me. He had a very hard life and took it out on me. So like John I lost my dad at a early stage. As I grew up John appealed to me much more because of the times we lived in. Vietnam, racial tensions, the disaster of Nixon years made me move sharply to the hippie community. To me the older generation was the problem. For all those reasons John and I became one. I believed in the “revolution “. I committed ugly acts growing up just like John, I was influenced by the world gone crazy and major rejection. It alters your world beyond your ability to understand and change. I loved John with all my ❤️ heart and still do. I’m the end John stood for peace and love, he always did. He eventually let go of his demons and so did I. It takes time to heal, sometimes a lifetime. Was John an asshole hell no! All his faults were understandable when seen through the lens of life experience. When John died a big part of me died. He will never be forgotten by me and others who can see through the hype. John opened my heart, my eyes, my mind and will always be greatest and most influential musician ever. ☮️❤️🎸🎹🎤🎭😎

[@99man]

The man was a musical genius - there's no denying it. I will always love and cherish the Beatles and his solo work. But John was no magical prophet. Other than music - John Lennon wasn't a particular smart man. Not the best husband to Cynthia or father to Julian, horrible with money, bad business choices (Alan Klein). And please, let's not start on Yoko - John just could not be alone. Do I regret what was taken from us? Of course. I have tried to educate people of what the Beatles and John meant MUSICALLY. My twenty eight year old daughters have grown up on John's music. But I wouldn't trust the man with many of life's challenges. I just believe people should keep this amazing musical genius - in perspective. He was flawed. Like us all.

[@laurabirnbaum-k3e]

I appreciate this deeply respectful, but also unabashed, perspective by a fan.

[@RichieW90210]

Love this video and your way of storytelling. And, this might sound odd, but you don’t put in silly sound effects at all, like popping noises or whooshing noises, and now that is rare on KZbin. So thanks 🙏

[@marioruiz9863]

12:31 "Lennon was jealous of Yoko's creativity." What creativity are you talking about? You mean "lack thereof." LOL

[@str.77]

Probably that she was coming up with stuff - and John actually thought her "work" "great" - while he wasn't.

[@wolfgangfalck1250]

TLDR; Yes But Yoko was worse

[@tdunph4250]

Would you care to elaborate on your disdain of Yoko Ono?

[@wolfgangfalck1250]

@@tdunph4250 Really there are rock anthems written about the disdain of Yoko Ono: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m2HGeaNtjsZ8hNk

[@fungusmeister259]

This is a horrible comment

[@meteor1237]

JL is long past and he will always be missed regardless. Let him RIP.

[@dakidd729]

No, this guy is trying to make a name for himself by trying to publicly ruin the legacy of Lennon.

[@gcrichman53]

To debunk and correct these sadly all too common myths about John and Yoko too,John Lennon said in his very last radio interview (just hours before he was so cruelly, insanely shot and killed by a crazy,horrible piece of sh*t who used to be a big Beatles fan since he was 11, and John was his favorite Beatle. And he said years later that he met and shook John's then 5 year old Sean just two days before he irrationally shot and killed his father right in front of Yoko,that Sean was the cutest little boy he ever saw,and that it never occurred to him that he would never see his father again and and John was nice enough to take the time to autograph his album just hours before he killed him) that like most young men he was more involved with his career than with his children,and he said he regretted not spending enough time with Julian. He also said that he and Julian would have a relationship in the future but sadly they both were deprived of this. And John didn't do the same horrible thing to Julian that his father did to him. John's father literally totally abandoned him and literally didn't see, or talk to John from the time he was 5,until he was a successful famous 24 year old. John did see Julian sometimes, and spoke with him on the phone and sent him post cards,birthday and Christmas cards and presents and he bought Julian a guitar when he was 11 as a Christmas present. John's father never did any of these things and John said it was like his father was dead. And Cynthia Lennon said that John only hit her twice *before* they were married when he was a very young psychologically messed up drunk 19, 20 year old guy, and Cynthia always said that she would always be in love with John and she was married 3 times after him. In a great 1984 interview with Cynthia Lennon says that John was really a kind sensitive man not the cruel one that he's often been portrayed as. Yoko and his girlfriend May Pang said the same things about him too.

[@andrewmacdonald3667]

Was Lennon over-idealised before his death though? Anyone with an interest in him knew that here was a guy with some issues. He was much ridiculed too. I’m not sure if that part of your argument holds up.

[@TheBatman582]

To John's credit, he did at least make a concerted effort to restablish a genuine relationship with Julian in the later year's of his life. Between 1974 through till his tragic passing, John made efforts to to reconnect with Julian, & even buried the hatchet with Cynthia. I was watching an interview May Pang made talking about her relationship with John & how she was instrumental in making sure John & Julian got back in touch, & John also continued that relationship until his death despite getting back with Yoko & how witholding & arguably manipulative she was to him and his ways of life. Does that excuse how he abandoned him in the first place or didn't leave much in his will? No, BUT it does at least show that he wasn't completely heartless, & reportedly he told Julian he was planning to have him come on tour with him for his concerts he had planned in 1981 (Julian is credited on drums for the song "Ya-Ya") to promote Double Fantasy as well as what would later be Milk and Honey, but sadly he wouldn't live to see that through.

[@TheChristafershawn]

I have a feeling that Yoko had much to do with John attempt to ignore and erase his connection with his first marriage and first son. Yoko's attempt to screw Juliane out of his due inheritance lends to this assumption. Thus when he was away from her influence he realized how important and necessary it was to reconnect with this first born child. For Juliane and for himself.

[@marylouleeman591]

​@@TheChristafershawnAbsolutely!

[@bethvaughn4231]

It will be interesting to hear what Sean has to say (if he says anything) after Yoko has passed.

[@TheBatman582]

@bethvaughn4231 Yeah, he's always been weirdly quiet about his mom & the way she's always been negligible towards Julian, I understand not wanting to talk down on his mom, but there's a way to do that while still showing you love & respect your parent while disagreeing with things they said or did. Loving your parent while still disagreeing & not condoning their actions don't have to be mutually exclusive.

[@thomastimlin1724]

While Yoko made Julian buy some of John' artifacts rather than just give them to him..even McCartney pitched and bought some things for Julian couldn't afford. Yoko was a real piece of work and still is...

[@marylouleeman591]

A+ Thank you. Well done. I loved them and the music and still do. But life goes on. I was particularly pleased with your calling out his Abuse Defenders.

[@JohnNiemsMusic]

You did a great summary of JL! I can relate so much as I too have grown way past the days when I idolized the FAB! I have learned too that they were not organic but were created as well as all the big names in entertainment are that. I will leave my comment there as to not upset anyone.

[@dougmurphy1777]

Lennon wasn't a boomer - he was born 5 years too early for that

[@guillermogouldburn763]

Words are flowing out like endless rain into a paper cup They slither wildly as they slip away across the universe Pools of sorrow, waves of joy are drifting through my opened mind Possessing and caressing me

[@Zulonix]

When John Lennon was shot, I wondered if Yoko went up to her apartment, made a tuna fish sandwich… and ate.

[@Venusandjupiteinunion6434]

No I don't think so, but she went to her boyfriend, Sam Havadtoy, and they stayed together for the next 20 years. Perhaps they shared a tuna sandwich😂

[@TobyLawnjockey]

I had the self titled album, and a vivid red poster, with the reverend mop-tops, holding medieval instruments, (the shoot, had variations of instruments, apparently),..my ma did not like it..(early 80's, the helter skelte,r and Charlie thing, was a thing?).

[@charlottelouise209]

Making Yoko into a subhuman doesn't make her so. She lost her husband and you think it didn't affect her? Get a soul.

[@Ilovemusic793]

she was already with her boyfriend who she dressed up and styled to look like John. She's a freak.

[@Venusandjupiteinunion6434]

Yes that's right she did. And that's not even speculation. People saw them, her and Sam. As they were out side of the Dakota and sure as hell she had dressed Sam up in John's clothes, how sick is that? And I will never get over her using John's glasses as a prop on her album, "Season's of Glass" You know if my husband had just died, I would keep his glasses, but I would clean them, and put them away for something personal to remember him by. But I wouldn't want to remember them covered in blood. Very sick lady

[@ApartmentKing66]

Lennon was born in October 1940. He wasn't a Boomer. None of the Beatles were.

[@justynmatlock8873]

If you were looking for a new, 'not privetely an a**hole' hero, I'm not sure Lou Reed was the best choice. And yeah, I like Reed and Lennon's music.

[@AndrewFriedberg]

I was trying to make that point too, Yes Reed was a perfect asshole

[@justynmatlock8873]

@@AndrewFriedberg He admitted it later, and apologized, so I guess there's some kind of redemption there.

[@TheVeganVicar]

@@AndrewFriedberg adultery: The purpose of this Glossary entry is not so much in order to define that term (since the word refers simply to extramarital sexual intercourse), but to offer a rationale for why adultery is deemed to be a CAPITAL offence, since Chapter 12 does not provide a rationality for the punishment of most of the listed immoral acts, other than the fact that they are, by definition, criminal in nature. Throughout human history (and most probably among our hominid ancestors, as well as our fellow species of extant apes, particularly gibbons) it has seemed intuitive that when we mate with a sexual partner, it is necessarily a long-term union. Although many species of animals may mate with several partners in the course of their lifetime, humans have evolved to generally accept a single mate (or, in some cultures, a secure polygamous marital amalgamation) due to its necessity for the proper raising of offspring. Unlike any other species of animal, the offspring of Homo sapiens requires almost two decades of parental care, and since most couples give birth to more than one child, the parents need to offer a stable, nurturing environment for an inordinately-lengthy period of time (in some cases, almost half a century!). The marital bond established over several decades normally results in strong psycho-emotional attachments within the family. Therefore, when one’s mate fornicates with a third party, it is natural for the betrayed person to feel immense emotional pain (although, it must be admitted that in recent decades, in the so-called “Western” countries, this jealous inclination has been greatly reduced, due to a sharp decline in morality/dharma in those societies). In fact, our moral intuition evolved to the point at which adultery was considered such a grave transgression against the offended individual, as well as to the unity of the family, and to society as a whole, that many cultures came to pass the death penalty on adulterers. Children, in particular, are adversely affected by marital breakdown, which is a frequent consequence of adultery. In recent decades, as strict moral codes (“dharma”, in Sanskrit) have been rapidly eroding, one can clearly see how extramarital affairs have contributed to the destruction of wholesome societies, and we can understand why our forefathers deemed adultery to be a capital offense. That does not mean that adultery is as egregious a crime as mass murder, but it does mean that, just like murder, it is worthy of the death penalty, as it devastates nuclear families, which is the fundamental unit of human society, as well as extended families and, thus, society. Read Chapter 27 of “A Final Instruction Sheet for Humanity” in order to learn the IDEAL way for human families to function. Obviously, many (if not most) instances of adultery are never discovered, often creating shame in the guilty parties, as well as sexually-transmissible diseases, and the peril of living their daily lives under the fear of being caught-out for their dastardly deed. The general thought process outlined above may be applied to any immoral deed, in order to discern the appropriate punishment. See also the Glossary entry “meta-ethics”, as well as the second paragraph of the Glossary entry, “normative ethics”.

[@cmorales932]

It’s perfectly natural for youth to imagine that that their idols are somehow examples of unattainable perfection. ( this is one of the problems with social media where people’s posts portray idealized lifestyles). As we grow and mature, we have less of a need for youthful hero worship. Our life experiences allow us to see our heroes on an even keel with clear eyes. Lennon, like all of the Beatles were possessed of incredible talents and gifts which they shared so freely with the world. But they were not relieved of their humanity, warts and all. The truth is, we really never know another person completely; your partner, best friend or favorite musician.. most of us never want to really know all the sides of ourselves. So let’s enjoy their gifts, admire those, but don’t confuse their work with who they are as human beings. Whether it’s Elvis, John Lennon or the teacher who inspired you.

[@johngoodall1926]

This guy refers to John Lennon as “a Boomer”. Like many 60s and 70s musicians and Baby Boomer influencers, he wasn’t a Baby Boomer. An influence on Boomers, for sure. But not a Baby Boomer, because all Baby Boomers were conceived and born after World War 2, that is, from 1946 on, and until 1963/64.

[@ryanmccolloch4734]

I always thought the "Silent Generation" was a dumb and inaccurate name for them. MLK, Gloria Steinem, Cesar Chavez, RBG, and countless '60s musicians were of that generation, just to name a few.

[@johngoodall1926]

@@ryanmccolloch4734 Mick Jagger. Born 1942. Feminist Germaine Greer 1939. Bob Dylan 1941. Yep, “Silent” 😹s

[@kimbalxyz2]

He was flawed, he was human !

[@brucelang1201]

None of us or very few will ever know what it's like to be famous as the Beatles were and being a Beatle must have been like.To come out of something like that and still be semi sane takes a very special type of personality,any normal guy wouldn't have lasted a week thrown into that sort of madness.

[@MIB_63]

To quote his mate George Harrison, Lennon was both an angel and an asshole. He was human like the rest of us.

[@lrwiersum]

“I used to be cruel to my woman and kept her apart from the things that she loved. Man, I was mean but I’m changing my scene and I’m doing the best that I can.” Lennon/McCartney

[@angelacable7517]

Indeed

[@lisah9709]

"I used to be cruel to my woman, I beat her and kept her apart from the things that she loved." FIFY

[@niicholiswagner5269]

In the late 70s my mom bought me The Beatles Rock-n-Roll albums 1 & 2. I too idolized Lennon, I bought Lennon's Imagine, and John Lennon's greatest hits, I bought every single Beatles albums on tape cassette, I got the Lennon glasses, I had Beatles t-shirts and sweat shirts....I went through a five year period where all I listened to were zThe Beatles. Then in 1983 one of my friends asked if I wanted to hear a new band that had just released their debut album, and I said, sure....that album was Metallica's Kill em All...been a fan of Metallica's ever since....but I still am a huge fan of The Beatles...Lennon was human, with flaws just like all of us.

[@crescendo5594]

He had worse flaws than most people. Most people do not do the things he did. You’re well within your rights to forgive him, but the justification is complete bs. He wasn’t just human. He was a deeply flawed, much more than average flawed, human.

[@ConnieB-ig4ds]

The guy was a bully and abusive. He was disrespectful to other performers with no class. Ya it really takes a big man to insult a fellow performer. Just take a look at the movie My Dinner with Jimmy. After meeting the Beatles one of the band members from the Turtles, Jim Tucker left the tour. John Lennon had been bullying Jim, and that in front of other performers. there were so many other very good British bands at that time. For some reason the media decided that they would promote The Beatles to their maximum ability. Jim Tucker was a very accomplished musician here in the states. He continued performing locally until his passing in 2020. John was an Ass.

[@philblane5752]

It took many years for my Beatlemania to go into remission. But now that that's happened, I can see so much clearer. Its the music that is important to me; not the individual who created it. The flaws and sheer madness that was Lennon does not diminish the music that he created, and nothing can. But as the years have passed, the focus has shifted away from him and more on what the music meant to me in the context of my own life.

[@brucelang1201]

Take those songs out of my youth I'd have nothing to look back on in sheer admiration.

[@lizmurphy5994]

Thankyou for your balanced comments

[@TheJuRK]

Albert Goldman's book, The Lives of John Lennon, was one of the most compelling and eye-opening reads I'd ever read. Now that people are, begrudgingly, nearly painfully, allowing themselves to take off the rose-colored glasses and see him for who he was, they might give that book an honest reading. Anyone who behaved the way he did couldn't care less what anyone thought of him anyway. He'd admitted as much while he was alive.

[@robertorick6383]

Goldman was a liar and a asshole. He did that book to embarrass Beatles fans. He also embarrassed Elvis fans as well. When Goldman died in 1993, he was halfway into a assassination biography about Jim Morrison. Morrison could be an asshole, too, but Goldman thankfully never got to finish his project.

[@brucelang1201]

The first time I listened to Help it immediately struck a chord in me because the message is so deep yet u can hear by the voices it's coming from guys very young which had me even more enchanted.

[@SADFORIAN]

He wasn't a Boomer. He was a member of the Silent Generation. Definitely a selfish person though, who used his intelligence as a club, but not a fulltime asshole, IMHO.

[@PrinceofPain-wv1lo]

What's wrong with Boomers????????

[@ADayInTheLifeofMrsPerkins]

People forget just because someone's famous doesn't change the fact he was a human being.

[@jmsdeco]

He was a great songwriter, not a great person.

[@BobbyMick-c5b]

An important part of maturation is learning, usually through bitter experience, that *all* human beings are complicated, flawed creatures capable of great good & evil. Charisma, talent and fame don't change basic human nature. BTW, I too, like The Beatles, got the pristine Criterion edition of Hard Days Night.

[@markdoughty8780]

It's difficult to really get to the bottom of this, but, to deal with the level of fame that he had both personally and with The Beatles was, is and possibly always will be unprecedented. No excuse for the (alleged)violence of course, but the pressure valve is going to burst at some point with this much pressure on someone. Paul McCartney seems to be the complete opposite, and remained a gentleman at all times, whatever is/was thrown at him; ditto George Harrison and Ringo Starr. Fascinating expose of one of the great musical giants of the 20th Century, and even as a massive John Lennon fan, I've got to like and subscribe because of the honesty of this breakdown if nothing else. Thanks for uploading and highly recommended for all John/Beatles and non-John/Beatle fans alike.

[@deaf19830]

I was born in late 67 so when Journey released escape, I was 13-14, when teenagers start to dig music, I didn’t really start listening to The Beatles until I got older, didn’t realize that my sister’s favorite singers was Paul McCartney was a Beatle I didn’t realize my favorite singer John Lennon after releasing “Woman” was a Beatle, didn’t hit me until my mid 20’s and my Boss was a major Beatle fan.

[@craiglavoie7193]

When I was 9 I found he got shot I know my parents were heart broken I like the Beatles always loved John Lennon I remember every one was upset about that.

[@montewright111]

His outward life was a coping mechanism. His best music drew from anxiety we all understood.

[@jeanmyers1787]

Remember George had an affair with Ringo’s wife Maureen.

[@lowenbad]

Yep… and had the audacity to write a song about it and present it to The Beatles during the Let It Be sessions. The channel “almost Beatles songs” covered the song.

[@robertorick6383]

And George's first wife Patti Boyd had an affair with George's best friend Eric Clapton! They later married, then divorced. As for Eric Clapton being an asshole, there's his drunken "anti-wog", pro-white power (Inspired by Enoch Powell) diatribe, his recent anti-vaccine rant of 2020, and the fact he dragged his best friend Van Morrison (another asshole) into doing a tour of it during pandemic season, his declaration of leaving The Yardbirds because he hated the commercial success of "For Your Love", and his recent declaration of being pro-Israeli anti-Palestinian politics. Eric can be a great musician, but he can also be one fucked-up dude.

[@craigcole9337]

George also stole Eric Clapton's wife.

[@briangordon2208]

​@@craigcole9337No, Eric took Layla from George not George (Patti Boyd) from Eric!!!

[@adrianalvarez8119]

​@@lowenbadsong name?

[@oilda1926]

Yes he was not perfect but he made a habit out of pointing out others imperfections .

[@MakingScents]

Mick Jagger is a genius and an asshole too. People are all a mixed bag.

[@robertorick6383]

Mick is an enormous lady killer and womanizer as well as a drug addict in the 1960's (though not as much as Keith Richards or Brian Jones. Jones was also a womanizer as well.) He also dabbled in Satanism when he wrote "Sympathy For the Devil". Then there's his misogyny in the songs "Under My Thumb", "Stupid Girl", "Yesterday's Papers", "Brown Sugar", "Star Star (Starfucker'). and especially "Some Girls." Then there was also the infamous bust of 1967 in which Mick allegedly ate a Mars bar out of Marrianne Faithful's vagina (or so the press stated.) Very human indeed.

[@pam8962]

John could make me smile and cry

[@patraic5241]

The question is moot. He died 44 years ago. Let the dead rest in peace.

[@lawnmowerman7]

I doubt John's all that upset about this video

[@lawnmowerman7]

@@p0llenp0ny what is the point, then?

[@Mr.TomHyland]

Actually, the video was quite clever and excellent. Drewberg's history of adoration leading up to the moment a stranger knocked on his forehead and told him differently was essential in order to bring Lennon's history as the main topic. The question isn't moot because Lennon's music is very alive, forever. People are forever grappling with their heroes and comparing themselves to these greats in every field of endeavor. Appreciate the art, pursue the art, but detach from the toxic egos behind the accomplishments. A smart video.

[@robertoriggio117]

Certainly not moot. Important as a study of the human condition.

[@gertstronkhorst2343]

I'm guessing you're a fan.

[@pulsarstargrave256]

I was once a John Lennon fan who wore rose colored glasses but learned early on he was only human. I ultimately focused on his music afterward-- but only up to "Shaved Fish", of course!😊

[@lovelyandsmartcommentator5130]

He was definitely verbally abusive.

[@glennbzt]

He was childish and a bit selfish…Yoko was like a mother for him

[@gene42]

You referred to Lennon as a "Boomer" as if that implies some kind of commonly understood (yet unspecified) character flaw contributing to his potential assholishness. Good thing, then, that Lennon was not a boomer. Boomers were born after WWII; Lennon was born in the midst of it.

[@MaureenDeVries-wd9mh]

Lennon is a pre-boomer.

[@CONNIECOLVIN-wg8bq]

Johns acting out was unexpressed grief from his mothers death. He was not an asshoke. Many who knew him said ge was kind as well. Paul loved him and he gave the world so much, he’s ok in my book.

[@gaetanomaximus8650]

You're right. He was an asshole. And great.

[@LabhriunnMaciain]

I come from a wee tiny island in Shetland, Scotland. I played Celtic fiddle and hated what a friend of mine there made me listen to on his wind-up victrola -- back then the island didn't have electricity; it does now thought, and tourists. The exact day before we left to come to America -- I was 13 -- I heard The Beatles for the first time! AMAZING! They sounded SOOOOO different than the rock and roll my mate loved. Then, when I was them on the Ed Sullivan Show I said: "I've got to learn to play the guitar!" Five years later while in Vietnam becoming an America Citizen I lost my life. I didn't know then, but I did. Two guys I met in the military showed me how to play the guitar. After everyone got out, we all met in Michigan, where I was and I lived on a farm so there is ALWAYS FOOD! to start our band. We were good. One of the earlier gigs there was a problem. The fat arsehole owner said he would pay us $300.00 bucks each night -- we were to play Friday and Saturday. The place was packed. The owners son-in-law was the bartender. He said that he'd been working there since he was 15 and NEVER had they had so many people. Well, the guy in the band who got us the gig went to get paid for Friday. He came back with HALF of the money. When I asked him what the hell? He said the old man said that we didn't sell enough beer. I went back to the little bump-out office he had off the bar. He disreguarded me. I told that I wanted the other half of the money. He told me to get out. I told him to give me the money or I will take the money. He did the dimmest thing he could have done. He went for the drawer with his Saturday Night Special. I ran across the room, pushed the desk and him smashing into the back wall. I hit him in the face, broke his jaw and dislocated a number of joints, then took the other half of the money. As he was slobbering al over his desk I told him that we would be back the next night like we agreed and he better not fuck with our equipment. We played the next night. I told the bartender that we were sorry but we can never play here again. He understood. I NEVER hit a girl. All the guys in the band had sisters so they NEVER hit their sisters so would NEVER hit a girl. Sometimes you MUST throw hands. If you don't you will be taken advantage of EVERYFUCKINGTIME! I never was married so have no kids, but my Da NEVER hit us kids. He did, however, teach us to box. Thanks Da. Men ARE different than women. The Beatles were NOT a Band, they were a buzz saw, redoing what we thought was music. So innovative. I still respect them, even though they didn't know much about people and how awful they can be. NEVER HIT A GIRL. If I had a friend who I heard hit a girl or even worse they would NOT be my friend anymore or again, that would be after I handed him his ARSE!!!

[@richalderson6069]

When I was a late teenager, I read the book The Love You Make and that killed it for me, I never saw Lennon the same again.

[@CutiePie-hh3gg]

After reading about him from various books i have come to the conclusion that he WAS an A-hole however towards the end of his life he became kinder and gentler like he was turning a new leaf.. that's why his death is heartbreaking because it took him years to lose his demons and finally he succeeded only to get assassinated

[@iRevolVeR21]

Agree... people are human imperfect. Lennon is no exception.

[@simonbennett5321]

Enjoyed this, i had exactly the same thing, ie discovering Lennon's darker sides after being a bit of a Beatles obsessive. Obviously we're all human, but i think definitely affects how you regard so called idols. Always amazes me how the the allegations of rape by Bob Marley's wife are conveniently overlooked - not saying we have to bang on about it all, but it does grate when they're put on a pedestal for peace, love, etc

[@jonbanner5823]

Humans make terrible mistakes and do terrible things. We don't consider people doing terrible things "good people" but it is helpful to see people as flawed, imperfect and things they do are not necessarily who they are. John later in life took up great causes, peace and love is an admirable thing to spread, seek and try to achieve in a world vision. But hey, not enough for some folks. For me, Aholes never learn from their terrible doings. John learned something it seems, he raised his son Sean somewhat as a single parent. Sean seems like a good person, but who knows! Do we really even know the people in our inner circle, we hope we do but its good to see everyone as just human and sometimes really mess up.

[@DanielMulloy-bg6gw]

John was very human....

[@harrykP9]

I'm a huge Bettles and Lennon fan. Paul was my favorite. While I recognize the genius of John, I always thought he was weird with the freak Yoko. I thought he lost his mind. How could he appreciate her banshee screaming and encourage it? I became a bigger fan after watching hours of old interviews with John. It shocked me how human and vulnerable he was. I wasn't watching a Beatle or a pop icon, he was just a cool, funny, unassuming has been, talking about the good ole days. He even laughs about an important concert he was doing and "Yoko out on the edge of the stage screaming like a banshee (laughs amused). I walked away feeling that I wasn't watching another gimmick, but that he was really just watching the wheels go round. It made him human and relatable. I love Saint Paul, but there is some assholery there too as well.

[@edwardmeradith2419]

Everybody’s got one.

[@67lionsoflisbon37]

Horrible man. His conduct towards his wife and his first son was contemptible. Solo work? Working class hero? Bolox.

[@pam8962]

John and Paul loved their solo ❤️ careers

[@airmark02]

Being talented doesn't automatically make you a "Nice Person" ...lol. Diddy, Joni Mitchell, Neil Young, Frank Zappa, Nina Simone Lou Reed, Keith Richards... ~ the list of arrogant nasty popstars is a long one.

[@chuckschillingvideos]

Never meet your heroes.

[@lisah9709]

Diddy is def an a**hole but he's not very talented.

[@johnnada6855]

John Lennon was not only just a "hurted person", he had several dissorders, like borderline personality and cyclotimia, also he was a big JUNKIE, a total paranoid junkie, and he was a drug addict till the end of his life, a highly disturbed person, but still my favorite beatle cause he made great songs., big artist are not moral examples, big art comes from real dark people, even beautiful art comes from real horrible and perverted people, human beings are not "simple" but very complex

[@snowbear1877]

Where do you get these diagnoses from? Are you a psychologist?

[@snowbear1877]

And it's cyclothymia not cyclotimia.

[@johnnada6855]

@@snowbear1877 John said it himself, he suffered from emotional ups and downs, also he did get several times those diagnoses from psychological analysis, also he got cyclothymia from his mother, which was also a person emotional unstable, but besides that, he was a drug addict till the day he died, he never quitted drugs and he was suicidal till the end

[@GeoffGroves]

I just liked his music. I know some people that liked it too. It brings us together. For that we are thankful John. RIP

[@pam8962]

Love John gotta give him credit

[@scottmcneely1927]

Finding a rock star who isn't an asshole is like finding a needle in a haystack, but there are a handful. Tom Petty. Bob Seger. Fellow Beatle George Harrison. Joe Walsh. Those are the only ones I can think of right now.

[@jeremywanner4526]

John Fogerty,Robert Plant

[@michaelp5283]

Ringo Starr

[@robertorick6383]

@@jeremywanner4526 Fogerty didn't speak to the rest of the members of CCR for over 45 years (even his brother Tom Fogerty), and had issues with Fantasy Records boss Saul Zanentz. Plant was a womanizer, and was believed to be a follower of black magic, just like Jimmy Page. Unlike Page, at least Plant was never accused of molesting a 14 year old girl or made waves by purchasing Aleister Crowley's old mansion in 1970. Plant is a little obsessed by "The Hobbitt" and J.R. R. Tolkien, but he can be excused for that. Tolkien, though not a musician was a renown anti-semite in his time, so he was very human as well.

[@andrewcairns8266]

I think you should look further in to George lol. As much of a dick as John and I love them both.

[@rellrheeannaRN]

thank you a great trigger to help people understand hero worship..... as well as the boys once quitting live shows. it consumes you for years. Yoko only insisted on him for being so broken. in lost weekend Mae stated she had john call her throughout the years. One time he called to check in and an abusive vile thing to do ( me I counsel those in abusive relationships.) when questioned John said he was in Cape Town, S.A.Town, S. Africa. finding 0rosyitute ..... another bible ace hole thing to do. John lost his music when he met Yoko . His pain remained but he lost the ability to lvee. Yoko was the author of imagine in her book Geapefruit. 😊😊 she was trained in Classical Pisano as a child in Japan.

[@rellrheeannaRN]

Yoko was too old to ignore your step son. His step mom sold letters from his dad... a guitar engraved to Julian, Love Dad Some how we follow our families patters. The way she seems to apologize for the abuser. many believed . the abused loved us thus abuse was actually jealousy which he freely admits

[@rupertschwarz1176]

John Lennon was one of these people who could be the most funniest, carring and brilliant persons, but also toxic, destructiv and brutal. It was really sad, that he was shot, when he had his life back on track and was in ballance.

[@itsgleneaton4883]

Who isn’t an asshole sometimes.

[@abc456f]

Seems he was a pretty consistent one.

[@TeleNikon]

Lennon did admit he was an asshole, in his own way. You played the sound bites in this video. He spoke during a time of cultural transformation. His honesty about his flaws was revolutionary for a generation. He didn't hide his struggles; he shared them and how he tried to overcome them. Yes, John was an asshole, but he worked on it and showed us his journey. That moment is now fifty years past. Meditation was new, and EST was popular. Confessing and moving on isn't viewed the same way today. Now, having issues can lead to ostracization. We're in a world where everyone insists on labeling others as assholes. We're no longer in Lennon's "This is how I am, and I'm trying to improve" culture. Today, there's no "working it out," just labels. I preferred Lennon's approach: "Admit your flaws and better yourself." Not the mark of an asshole at all. Anyway - cool video.✌

[@Venusandjupiteinunion6434]

John never said he was an asshole. He said that he was a violent man learning to no be violent.

[@TeleNikon]

@@Venusandjupiteinunion6434 Like I said, in his own way. Including using the phraseology "...right bastsrds." When referring to the manner in which the way the Beatles may have conducted themselves with others. "Right bastard" is only one example from one sound bite. It may also not be a 1:1 match to the word 'asshole'. But let's not split hairs. Especially there. 😳

[@embir82]

Dude abandoned his first son. It is indefensible.

[@Venusandjupiteinunion6434]

Well I think if you look on page 221 of "John" by Cynthia Lennon, it says and this is a quote from Magic Alex, who had received a message from John to Cynthia. "I've come with a message from John. He is going to divorce you, take Julian away from you and send you back to Hoy Lake." So he didn't want Cynthia anymore, but he still wanted his son. Does that sound like he deserted Julian? Of course he agreed to give Cynthia custody in the divorce, but Julian was allowed to visitations which were set up. Julian visited his father at Tittenhurst many times. When John was with May Pang Julian visited at least 4 or more times even going to Disneyland, as well as meeting the "Happy Days" cast. John taught his son to swim during this time, and took him on boating excursions. He taught him to play guitar. Even at The Dakota, although less frequent, Julian came there, played with Sean, and Yoko's families kids. It was only Yoko's deep resentment over Julian that stopped it from being more frequent.

[@TeleNikon]

@@Venusandjupiteinunion6434 I'm interested in your response. You began with, "Well". Sounds like you had a point. Those bio points after are well known. What of them?

[@miketocci]

Short answer is yes

[@jasonwilliams5477]

Once apon a time not very long ago, if you tried to emply a man was gay,you better get ready to scrap. It only started being funny to crack gay jokes during my generation but you better be joking. As an adult I tried cracking on my dad while we were drinking one day and we ended up in the yard. I really had to explain it was just joke's but it obviously wasn't funny and since then I've seen that happen with all men over 45. They just don't play like that.