Was Luis Suárez Offside On His Potential Hat-Trick Goal?

[@ThePriceIsNeverRight]

If only LALIGA could do this type of videos about referring mistakes, but they don't have the balls to do it

[@MrJahoo2]

as long as tebas is in charge theres no way we will get such videos

[@henry_9]

same for the epl

[@notjhoan]

now that I think of it. the refs union probably wanted these videos gone in the negotiations. refs are not a protected class in terms of criticism. i'm glad mls is not bending the knee to them.

[@totalbodyperformancefitnes4813]

Wow. And yet espn comes out with an article every week about VAR in the premiership which makes as many mistakes as la liga BUT since all Americans have their panties wet over English we need to trash every other league. Typical

[@CLBCrew96]

Still can’t believe what happen in the Madrid game. Never seen that before. To blow the whistle as a cross is going in the box. Crazy. Hopefully that doesn’t come back to screw Madrid out of winning the league

[@daniolitheone]

I consider these types of videos pretty sincere. It shows you're not dodging the bullet and try to shine some light on some controversies that might otherwise grow into a snowball. Good! Other leagues should take note 📝

[@MrZen08]

Not only that, but PRO do their own videos as well, they just get less hits than these do. They'll also call out calls they disagree with, and additionally you get to hear the actual conversations between the booth and the ref, while viewing the angles they're looking at. They've been doing it since the VAR days, and they're continuing still, even with the replacement refs. Search it-

[@CLBCrew96]

Idk how you have VAR and not even check that PK call on Yeboah in the Crew game. It was obvious. The ref didn’t even hold up play after the ball went out to discuss it. There was also a handball in the box on Minnesota near the end of the game. Wasn’t checked either. That costed the crew 2 pts.

[@MrCho14]

The ref would never hold up play to review unless VAR told them to.

[@CLBCrew96]

@@MrCho14 VAR should have told him to hold up the play. But the ref can hold up the play if he believes he may not have made the right decision. If the other team tries to put the ball back into play quickly, the official can hold up the play to double-check. VAR can't make a decision within 2 seconds most of the time. So the official can stop play for a second to check with Var. Either way, they made the wrong decision.

[@MrCho14]

@@CLBCrew96 Sorry, but that's a complete misunderstanding of how the process works. The referee doesn't ever ask VAR to look at something. VAR looks at every play live and does their own review while play is going on. This is part of the reason there are multiple people in the booth so that they can have eyes on the live play while also reviewing a recent incident.

[@ElliottEats]

6:30 looks violent, but if you get tackled from behind and are knocked down, then realize another person is falling on you and/or about to step on you, putting your hands and legs up to protect yourself is just a gut reaction. I think the falling player definitely put a little extra in his feet, but he should be able to protect himself as an attacker that just laid a dangerous tackle is now falling on top of him. The "kick out" in this case could be seen as him simply creating a barrier between him and the dangerous falling player.

[@hountybunter1]

Completely agree

[@Stephenkertis7]

THANK YOU! I thought I was the only one, me and my dad are saying, his hands are up in front of his face, tucking his legs to protect his stomach. Maybe an argument for a second yellow, not a straight red.

[@ianbrudnakvoss3126]

I certainly see your point, and I don't totally disagree, but it is still seriously dangerous, ESPECIALLY with cleats. It's a similar case to the Yappi call right after in the vid: "just because your intent is good, doesn't mean that your actions are."

[@lukeharper8926]

For me, it looks like he's doing a bit more than just protecting himself though. It looks like his leg is moving upward toward the opposing player rather than just shielding himself. I don't feel strongly about it - if I was the VAR, I don't know that I would have recommended a review... but that's how I see it.

[@hountybunter1]

@@ianbrudnakvoss3126 in my opinion he was not trying to foul anyone in fact he was fouled hard also seemed reckless. It wasn’t his action it was the person who committed the first foul. He had no control over the situation. But this is just my opinion

[@jakesimpson5233]

The handball on Chara while he was calling for offside was hilarious this week

[@camusminor]

I do have to say...Spot on this week.

[@nathanc8478]

Wow, first time in history I agree with Wiebe on every case. Pigs are flying Andrew, and it is currently 68 degrees in Hell.

[@shmooveyea]

68 C is pretty hot!

[@nathanc8478]

@@shmooveyea 68 F is hot for Michigan in March too.

[@Dinoswarsgomoo]

No mention of the Yellow card called on Diego Chara for a perfect tackle??

[@joedeeez4120]

This was the one I was hoping to see on here this week

[@AragakiAyaya]

Suarez offside goal at 1:47

[@MauroB26]

Men I love this kind of videos showing some of the mistakes the league needs to improve

[@mrclean5925]

What about Brain Ojeda second yellow in RSL vs LAFC?

[@fireteeth1461]

As an RSL fan, I think they got it right. Not a red but you can't argue it wasn't worthy of a yellow.

[@rockinmel1]

RE: Philly throw-in: First, throw-ins/goal kicks/corners are incorrectly given/not given all the time (one study showed around 30% of the time). And because play was stopped and restarted again, of course it's not reviewable. Also, I can't believe that you didn't discuss the handball called against Diego Chara as he tried to do the AR's job. Not because controversial - because stupid.

[@MrCho14]

The non-reviewable really isn't about stop and start of play. It's simply not an allowable incident per VAR regulations. I'll also say on the throw-in that I'm quite surprised the SKC players stood there looking around when the ball went out instead of either going to pick it up or at least raising their hands like happens on 75% of all balls that go into touch.

[@darknebula455]

All the leagues should have these kinds of videos. Atleast call out the mistakes.

[@MrCho14]

You're mistaken if you think this show is about calling out mistakes. Typically the show shows a couple calls Andrew doesn't agree with, but the majority are him agreeing with the calls and explaining why.

[@Drakenn-d3j]

This show is needed

[@spotguy1]

I have to say, even though I may be a Dallas fan, I heavily disagree with your analysis of the Musa goal. The camera angle shown is very good and shows him arguably onside from this angle alone, but it can easily be understood that if the camera was slightly moved to actually be a straight on view with the back of the defender, that would move Kamungo even more onside based on the more direct angle. It's really just simple geometry/common sense and I am happy to see a replay official that decides to use a little common sense rather than fall back to an excuse of "not having a straight enough angle." Until MLS get's offside & goal line technology (at a minimum), I think officials should default to awarding goals in tight offside situations.

[@ericmittelstadt1781]

Any comment on the snow game in SLC? What do the rules say about calling off a game sure to conditions?

[@Tacoking8891]

Rules say that game can be played and is usually played. I was more interested in what he thought about the straight red overturned into a second yellow.

[@MrCho14]

@@Tacoking8891 What's the question on that? The foul was called correctly so it's a matter of whether that foul fit a yellow for how the game was being called especially given the snow which created additional issues and hazards.

[@akira8576]

oof luiz was close of offside

[@Elite.Prodzzzzz]

That first call I agree with no penalty because as st Clair was already lunging towards the ball the ball was poked away causing st Clair to hit his knee and foot with the clb crew player

[@tiagopatricio3805]

Excelent work, from an european I have to congratulate you on a clear explanation for every play, according with the rules, thumbs up!!!

[@coryschrock7207]

Great takes, this is one Instant Replay where I agree with 90%+ of your takes Andrew. Also glad to see you're of the opinion that the St Clair and Yeboah incident in the Crew game was a clear penalty, I was seeing arguments on reddit and completely baffled at how you could argue that it wasn't a penalty when St Clair gets zero contact on the ball and wipes out Yeboah, who has intentionally passed the ball at that point- not lost control of his dribble.

[@viobull5548]

This type of channel is exactly why MLS will continue to grow, referees can't get better if their mistakes aren't being analyzed.

[@j9156-h6r]

Bro they are being assessed every single game by people much more knowledgeable than fans be fr

[@Not_a_smart_man]

Yes analyze the replacement scab refs lol

[@shgalagalaa]

😂😂😂

[@viobull5548]

@@j9156-h6r how are the fans supposed to know if they don't make it public? Transparency in officiating creates trust with the league's supporters.

[@j9156-h6r]

@@viobull5548 that's a fair point. It's just a completely different one than you made on your original comment.

[@kickoffdorisk.o.d9128]

What ever Luiz does on the field is always right😂❤

[@SamualHadge]

Revs keep getting screwed on these controversial calls. If the penalty was claled correctly they 90% wouldve tied the game instead of losing it.

[@reidpattis3127]

I feel like this is what many other leagues need - Premier League and La Liga especially. Just full transparency and owning up to mistakes.

[@dv8mr2]

Miami wins MLS cup. 3 fouls first 3 minutes and no yellow cards. 3rd goal in game sealed the fate it was biased.

[@pitdoctor]

Hey MLS, PAY THE REFS!! Far too many of the scabs working right now are not at a high enough talent level to be put in the position they're in. It is impacting games in a negative way.

[@Bier-money]

The replacement refs are more than capable and spend just as much time reviewing the laws and watching clips as the full time mls refs

[@maxvigildombeck5999]

@@Bier-moneyhave you watched any game this season

[@Lugia887]

@@maxvigildombeck5999have you watched any games before this season? This happens every year, scab or regular refs, it’s just as bad

[@Chat562]

The union has been impacting games in a negative way for years. Pulling the bandaid off always stings a little but if this is what using only refs new to the league looks like, imagine what it will look like when they bring back the good refs, get rid of the Unkels and Pensos, and get these replacements fully up to speed.

[@Nerviniex]

For me the second is not a foul, he got the ball then on follow-through stepped on the opponents feat, no penalty no foul. Otherwise u might as well make it illegal to tackle at all, because almost every tackle will have some kind of follow trough

[@totalbodyperformancefitnes4813]

All of this doesn’t matter as long as there is no relegation. And don’t cry to me saying these games are all important.

[@nemo.s0]

how was ojeda’s red card not in here lafc player fouled him and ojeda got a second yellow somehow

[@MrCho14]

LAFC won and played the ball first. RSL swung in late and kicked the LAFC player. It's a clear foul on RSL. Still a decent play to have highlighted here as a close but clearly correct call. Did you submit this to the show as Andrew suggests and thanks people for doing at the end of each week?

[@nemo.s0]

@@MrCho14 lafc player kicked ojeda. ojeda didn’t touch him how could it have been a foul on ojeda? even the commentators during the game disagreed with the call

[@MrCho14]

@@nemo.s0 Look again. LAFC got to the ball first and touched it to the left. Contact was by RSL after that. Commentators are far from the first people to look to for understanding the laws and more importantly what actually happened on plays.

[@ShotgunFlood]

Dreadful display on the SKC game. Almost makes me want PRO back. Almost.

[@sajjadwiz5354]

good analyst

[@Nxgtn]

Great show but you have access to VAR recording and more - get some more background info (video/audio) and it will be more interesting and intriguing! Pros: retention, attention, quality, and a likely increase in follower interaction (like, comment, or share) Cons: 10-15 more min to find audio/video clips and edit. (Always happy to help and show a thing or two as well! Just a DM away)

[@brandonadams7837]

Go to PROs channel.

[@kickit023]

I'll 2nd what was already said, go to PRO'S channel. They dobshow behind the scenes and VAR recordings and discussion

[@rhoodj]

No offside 😢😢😮😢😢

[@CLBCrew96]

Can’t wait to watch one of these episodes going over Suarez trying to eat someone’s shoulder. Being Messi United, probably won’t even be checked or given a card

[@livinginsidegemses]

Thanks. Hope pendu is enjoying his suspension. Better take care that he doesnt go about wrestling with players or showing rude gestures to the crowd 🤣

[@CLBCrew96]

@@livinginsidegemses what the heck does Ronaldo have to do with anything? I will never understand the logic you all always use. If you're not a Messi fan, that 100% means you're a Ronaldo fan. If anyone criticizes Messi, it must be because that person loves Ronaldo. Did you know there are more than 2 players that play the sport? I have a feeling you don't. What a stupid comment man. Ronaldo doesn't even play in the MLS by the way.

[@JMArt909]

Unprofessional refs are ruining the game

[@JosePacheco-ew8bv]

👍

[@Zilla-e1n]

Only true Messi fan will like this comment 😎

[@weareprobablyinanarguement]

I disliked 😎

[@isaiahgehrz9213]

@@weareprobablyinanarguement I disliked 😎

[@OhyeahMrKrabz]

What does that have to do with the video?

[@steve13191]

stop waffling clown 🤡

[@GUNN3R_3210]

I’m a true messi fan and I won’t like

[@Stephenkertis7]

I think sands maybe shouldve had a second yellow, not a straight red, however. Put up his hands and feet to protect himself. Should sands know that the player is still running that way, possibly. Is he rolling over and trying to prevent further injury on himself? I believe so. Arguement for a second yellow, probably the worst call of the week IMO

[@bradclark388]

Vermes and SKC complaining about a goal being allowed after the "minimum" stoppage time mark is sweet irony. Considering they got a win against RSL in 2013 in the exact same manner, and those two extra points gave them the homefield in the cup final that same year.

[@basedboys17]

Messi

[@Problema-t7s]

Devolva Luis Suarez pro Grêmio 🇧🇷💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙

[@helixgaming-gamingvlogskin6630]

we need the review show back

[@andytretten]

MLS: Pay the refs. These scabs are not qualified to referee at this level and seem to have the attitude that VAR will save them on anything in the penalty area.

[@Chat562]

Sincerely, the Angel Hernandez of the MLS Referee Union - Sent from my PSRA troll account

[@andytretten]

@@Chat562ha

[@prince3500]

Thats not soccer thats football

[@TheSunIsMyDestroyer]

this is a step in the right direction for the mls

[@MEATBALLmonty]

They have had this show every week for years now.

[@viobull5548]

This is the type of video every pro sports league needs, to calm the rabid fans who swear it was a penalty and to hold refs accountable for their errors.

[@ItsMeA3k69]

Pay the refs

[@USsoccertalks]

How come Messi is allowed to tell the ref to card a player but when any other player does the gesture they get the yellow?

[@theimmitigableone8056]

Messi has been doing this since his days in La Liga, nobody is going to give him a cheap yellow for waving his hand in the air.

[@lorez1n]

Have you really never Seen a player asking for a card?

[@USsoccertalks]

@@theimmitigableone8056 every time another players does it they get a card.

[@USsoccertalks]

@@lorez1n I have. Every time they ask they get the yellow however, when Messi asks he gives the card

[@lorez1n]

@@USsoccertalks ok You’ve never seen a match

[@lukestraub4561]

The start of the video “No penalty was called and there was NO VAR” NO VAR?!? Please MLS these refs need repercussions

[@GuloGulo420]

Disagree on the NE-Toronto call, Wiebe. We can't let attackers be completely untouchable in the box. The guy won the ball, he got there first, and then stepped on the attacker in some incidental contact as part of winning the ball. Therefore, he has a right to that space. No penalty. We already give pens for wayyyy too cheap of fouls these days, and it's even worse when it had nothing to do with a scoring opportunity (see Chicago - Cincy, which was the right call but a total gift that Chicago gets a free goal for that).

[@SamualHadge]

As he pointed out Esmir tapped the ball back to cut around then the defender stomped on his foot. Defender didn't win the ball and you can't stomp on players feet when they're trying to dribble. It's simple as that.

[@douglasharley2440]

imo, this week was AGAIN refereed at a significantly higher level than last season mls. also, i disagree with your take on a couple of these calls (e.g., i think if the defender wins the ball it's not a penalty unless they go through the opponent), and again, very impressed with these "replacements".

[@larrybradshaw6804]

50/50 balls are not penalty worthy. Learn soccer man

[@claudiorabsten7179]

crack is no joke

[@sheldonsteenhuis7066]

Hey MessiLS sorry MLS, there’s other teams to talk about side from Messi and Miami. Losing loyalists with your Messi-mania.

[@rubssi8741]

This video doesn't even mention Messi lol

[@pithius2191]

Stop the Meth bro, you are hallucinating. Messi not even mentioned

[@OhyeahMrKrabz]

This video had nothing to do with Messi

[@blackwhiteparty]

The US referees used Base Ball law and Basket Ball law instead of Soccer law 😂

[@DonnyLane]

That was good call red card he will leave the game!🥅⚽