Was Maxwell’s Knock the Greatest of All-Time? Cricket Convos

#Cricket #GlennMaxwell #2023WorldCup
Gabe and Nick have a discussion about whether or not Maxwell’s knock is the greatest of all time. They react to a segment of another channel’s video discussing it. They don’t just argue that but about the notion of it being the best ever.
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[@dinkin_flicka14]

I'm from India and i think this is the greatest white ball innings of all time! Maxwell was batting with no legs, heat humidity, batting with tailender, with no hope left, the odds were stacked like a mountain and let's not forget he did it while chasing. It's just unbelievable what Maxwell pulled off

[@scyber_avatar]

its not like his entire innings he played on one leg (not no legs) ... his cramps only started in later part of his innings ... and heat humidity affects all 22 players on field

[@glennrandall7468]

@@scyber_avatar He was the only player to score 200

[@jehanariyaratnam2874]

They chopped his legs off before he went out to bat so didn't have any legs

[@annoymousambivert8197]

Rohit’s 264 was better ☺️

[@thunderhaze8500]

Maxwell scored a double century when Australia were 90 -7 while chasing a target of 293 all while suffering with cramps and a pulled hamstring ... This has to be the greatest one man run chase I have ever seen in cricket 🔥🔥🔥 Maxwell - The Big show ❤️

[@scyber_avatar]

not "all while" ... his cramps and leg problems only started in later part of his innings .... its not like from ball one he was facing issues

[@glennrandall7468]

@@scyber_avatar Greatest white ball century even Sachin said this

[@scyber_avatar]

@@glennrandall7468 .. DONT MISQUOTE SACHIN ... he said "best ODI knock I’ve seen in my life" ... I repeat he said "that I have seen" ... there is a difference .... for example Sachin never saw Kapil Dev making 175 in WC

[@glennrandall7468]

@@scyber_avatar Still the best white ball innings ever played no words from you will change that fact

[@scyber_avatar]

@@glennrandall7468 .. Lol ..clearly you dont understand the meaning and definition of the word "fact"

[@waynec3563]

Australia went undefeated in 2003 and 2007 World Cups. Australia went undefeated in World Cups from the Super 6 stage of 1999 until their last group match in 2011 (that includes a tie and a no-result).

[@isuru221]

Also, West Indies and SL(technically).

[@crimemastergogo7878]

Maxwell played like a wounded solider who wanted to win the war for his country alone. I don't know why but the way he played his game was very emotional to watch, he was struggling in the middle, cramps , the pain...man its very emotional I almost had some tears in my eyes. Actually I was supporting Afghanistan but then Maxwell made me support him for the win. Maxwell will always be remembered for that match. One man army, a hero.

[@jehanariyaratnam2874]

I think it's up there because it was pretty much impossible what he achieved, 200 to win, only 3 wickets in hand and he pretty much scored them all himself when he was body was shutting down from 140 odd. And he just hit amazing shots without being able to move his legs because of the cramps. I've watched a lot of cricket, for me greatest odi innjngs of all time and has to be in the conversation for all format all time innings. Nobody in previous generations got even close to doing this btw. 201* off 128 balls in that scenario against those spinners (sure I get there were no quality fast bowlers to face) but still

[@AshishSingh-rc7ds]

Yeah it was great ining but as u said it was helped by afg. Fielding & bowling inexperience in this match had it been any top 3 side it would be very difficult & on last 3 wk. It was aus tail not India that would not able to contribute more than 50 were as we have seen pat can Play at better strike rate then that & maxwell is naturally a hitter not like anchor had to change his game in middle due to situation nevertheless it was impressive ining for sure...

[@scyber_avatar]

In "Previous Generations" ... they were not playing in games with modern powerplay field restrictions rules .. 2 new balls both ends .. shortened boundary fields .. better power training, gear and physios ... and 31 overs bowled by spinners under dew conditions. If Maxwell himself played in "previous generations" .. he wouldn't even made 100 probably

[@AshishSingh-rc7ds]

@@scyber_avatar he would not have made even in this era had Been any top experience side bowling that after knowing he could not move...still kept on bowling in his arc ...he kept on hitting....

[@glennrandall7468]

@@scyber_avatar You can only play what's in front of you and he scored 200 in not ideal conditions

[@scyber_avatar]

@@glennrandall7468 .. yes .. that is why it can obviously be called as "one of the greatest" .... but NEVER the "greatest of all time" ... that is the debate here

[@jehanariyaratnam2874]

As great as Brian Lara's innings was it was in a dead rubber 4th test match when WI were 3-0 down on a very flat pitch, and they didn't end up winning the test, maybe because he batted too long. And he dropped Flintoff in the first innings who ended up getting a 100 and saving England from losing that test. That's why people say it wasn't particularly meaningful. Amazing innings though, destroyed the England bowling attack

[@marcusscott9328]

These Aussie guys on the video meant by just batting was, he wasn't chasing a target, in a limited amount of time, with 7 wickets down. He went out and just batted with no pressure.

[@jehanariyaratnam2874]

Jarrod Kimber is Australian guys, he's from Melbourne

[@michaeldiehm6838]

Apart from Dean Jones, which of the other batters were suffering with the equivalent of full body cramp for the last 30% of their innings? That aspect sets Maxi's innings apart.

[@jeetheshkarkera3481]

Did you see the match? He was injured and cramped up. He was hitting sixes standing still and no foot moments.....it was a great ODI innings of all time. Just ODI

[@poltoons]

From an Australian fan: Australia vs India 2001. Steve Waugh's Australian XI, arguably the greatest test side in history at the time, looking to conquer the 'last frontier' of India. Australia thumped India in the 1st test and were looking for another victory in the 2nd. Then Laxman and Dravid's 335 partnership (275 + 155) swung the test and gave India the momentum to win the 3rd deciding test. Perhaps not 'the greatest' innings of all time, but definitely heroic and right up there. Brian Lara's 400 doesn't even get a look in, sorry. Sure, he saved an English whitewash, but his innings came in a dead rubber test. Maxwell's was the greatest ODI innings, difficult to argue it wasn't. Yes Dev and Richards are in the top 3, but to bat second to single-handedly save a hopeless cause, battling leg and back cramps most of the time and in stifling conditions... it was a freakish innings unmatched in ODI history and unlikely to be repeated for a long, long time if ever.

[@phillipevans9414]

@poltoons. Good point, Laxman's innings was faultless batting against Warnie in India on a pitch helping the spinners - I watched every ball of it, and as an Aussie I still am in awe of how well he played that day, and in the end it won India the test. Cheers!

[@crazyassperson9183]

No one is denying Brain Lara's innings, it's one of the great innings of all time no doubt and it will go down in history.... but look at the scenario here, Australia has to do the impossible to win the game, all the pressure on the last true batsman left. He didn't have 5 days to get the win! He had to hit out to get the target, he had full body cramps, he could hardly walk yet he was hitting sixes by just using his upper body, he could hardly move.. I think you need to watch the innings yourself, incredible stuff

[@anthonytalbot8974]

I'm an Aussie, so I'm biased. I'm not saying the best innings ever. I'm just saying the best I have ever seen. I am 54 and have seen quite a few innings, but I just sat back and laughed for the entire last 100 as it is something I have never seen before.

[@DoctorDeSotoTheBand]

I love how much knowledge of names n games you guys have amassed in a relatively short time. So cool!

[@aashishmaru4712]

Your argument is valid. Although in the end, we did see something which was very incredible, and it will be remembered for a very VERY long time.

[@richardbergholcs741]

Your pod rationale for exploring the Maxwell inning was very compelling. Well done.

[@spider7665]

5:07 The fact they didn't even mention Kusal Perera's 153* against South Africa in South Africa (which is arguably the best test innings) hurt me a little bit.

[@m00d_fm]

Hayden hit 380 in a test match and it wouldn't come anywhere near the top of the list in terms of innings for Australia for me. Runs are not everything, context matters, conditions matter, etc. For example, Mark Greatbatch batting 2 days for 146 off 485 to save a draw against Australia for New Zealand sticks in my mind all these years later. Slow, hard to watch, and he never did much else in his career but THAT innings was something special. Also, yes, several double hundreds have been scored in short form cricket, all of them by openers, until this one. For the first time not being an opener being done by a #6 is what you call an anomaly.

[@daveg2104]

It's the Sportsbet KZbin channel. To quote them - Yes we're a bookmaker but we're mostly here to give you a good laugh. Not too sure who the 2 guys are. I think the issue with Lara's innings is that, in the context of the match, it probably cost the West Indies any chance of a win in what was a dead rubber. Still a great innings though.

[@YobboBear]

welcome back guys!

[@waynec3563]

Not sure that the 400 was Lara's best innings. One of the knocks on that innings was that he possibly batted too long (as a team) in that innings. He was the captain, so it was his choice.

[@marcusscott9328]

It is being called one of the greatest ever because of the circumstances of the heat, and him cramping up, while chasing from an impossible position. He fielded for 50 overs, bowled 10, then started batting in the 10th over. Alot of other great innings, they batted first, so were fresh,

[@tonyhyde2644]

go and watch his entire innings from the 1st ball to the last....gives u a greater perspecdtive/understanding

[@shoaibkhairmuhammad9695]

No doubts even ask experts everyone says it was best innings of all time.. A true cricket fan will know why its ranked so high.

[@chatilmaynath2691]

Australia went 34 games undefeated in wcs during 1999-2011, went 2003 and 2007 undefeated and won 1999,2003,2007 back to back to back

[@aditya-zo3vm]

Aussies were undefeated in 03 and 07. Probay Windies as well in the first two WCs

[@Rohitgupta-ji9nl]

Nick,the most important thing you are missing here is the match situation,what makes this innings so great is when they were 91-7 ,win predictor shows 99.5%chance of Australia to lose,to win from there makes it the greatest odi innings,i am not including test and t20 here

[@CricketforAmericans]

I get that completely. My argument isn't that it wasn't amazing. It is the recency bias that drives me crazy and the fact that three of the 5 they mentioned were Australian knocks.

[@scyber_avatar]

@@CricketforAmericans .. You are right Nick There was no "win predictor" till decade+ before ... or there would have been cases where it showed 99.9% win for team whicha ctually lost in end. Aussies and Eng commentators try to put biased labels as if other world doesnt exist

[@psurya3053]

amazing podcast.

[@relevantbrother8964]

I think Maxwell went where no other batsman in history has ever done before by overcoming exhaustion/pain but not just outlasting it but overpowering it as well. It's not recency bias. Neither is it about the numbers stats, opposition. Rather it's the sheer will and genius in finding a way when all normal options were exhausted and creating a way that was extraordinary.

[@glennrandall7468]

A lot of greats of the game Sachin being one of them plus others from differing nations have said this is certainly the greatest one day innings ever played

[@isuru221]

Yep, you guys are correct!!

[@tony-id1xp]

i saw it live ; it was real positive sporting gravitas from an exemplary sportsman.

[@rebeccaaustin3247]

Lara's 400 runs over 4 day's while impressive actually didn't help his team, in test match cricket you have to get through 4 innings in 5 days. Batting for 4 days is guaranteeing your tram will not win

[@harshitdutta21]

They were right on brian lara, he had no really pressure of run chase and he had no runrate pressure, no strike rate pressure, no world cup pressure, and played on a flat pitch. And that lara’s 400 was not even lara’s best innings

[@simontanner88]

I don't know why you guys are so angry about anyone giving credit to Maxwell's performance. Did you guys even watch the innings? Maxwell could barely move at one point. Whether it is the greatest performance in any format is probably doubtful but it is definitely one of the best ODI performances of all time. It wasn't just the number of runs but how it came about that contributed to it. Discussions around whether something is the greatest are good for the game. It's not about dismissing the past but about showing how far above other performances it is which place it in the category to talk about it. I think Don Bradman is the best batsmen of all time (if you compare him to how above other batsmen of his era he was) but I think it would be very sad if everytime a batsmen does a great performance we have to say but it wasn't as good as Bradmen. It demeans all future performances and means the sport can never move forward and will always be trapped in the past. It's not like it is said about all great performances. Just the standout ones. And a lot of very respected cricket commentators, journalists and players have mentioned it as being one of the greatest. I just don't understand why you made a video to denigrate two people having a chat about the performance and attack everyone who thought it was. You didn't even talk about the innings itself for more than a minute. Love you guys normally but I don't understand why you felt the need to make this video. The two guys in the video are just two fans having a chat and you guys make a video screaming at them for having an opinion.

[@simontanner88]

I am sure these guys do have some bias to Australian performances but so do any fans from any country. I also think it would be weird to make a video screaming at some Indian fans talking about whether a Kohli innings is the greatest of all time. It's fun for fans to speculate on these things.

[@user-lw1cd8gt7y]

Brian lara 400* runs, somehow resulted in a draw match as he batted too long.... they could have declared match earlier. Still a great innings though

[@billschild3371]

I have seen a lot of ODI cricket in my time and when it comes to a situation there have been some great knocks. But for mine Kapil Devs 175 to allow India to get to 268 against Zimbabwe after initially being 5 for 17, Herschelle Gibbs 175 off 111 when SA chased Australias record setting 434 / 4 and my favourite battef of all time Viv Richards when he destroyed England after the side elected to bat and soon found themselves at 102/7. The next 2 wickets only added 64 runs so as last man standing Viv took charge and blasted 93 runs in a 106 run final wicket stand to set a competitive total of 272. However Maxwell's stand for sheer audacity, resilliance and match situation surpasses them currently. There is recency bias involved in my assessment though so it will take some time for to call this innings the G.O.A.T

[@lifekmjj1]

On your comment on being undefeated and winning the tournament, yes, Sri Lanka did that in 1996.

[@isuru221]

and Aus and WI too

[@thomaseast7699]

Well there's a thing. Some Americans talking about cricket, and they know a thing or two! Well maybe there is some hope the world might be a better place! Seriously. Great to see. Keep it up!

[@brentoncole5488]

It's not just Aussies calling it that. All the contributing factors in the innings go into it.

[@Introvert.pratik_]

Muxh love from India 🇮🇳

[@utter6798]

No debate. The greatest innings in cricket history

[@user-lw1cd8gt7y]

Kapil dev made 175 coming in at 17 for 5 against zimbabwe in a virtual knockout in 1983... and india eventually won the world cup....

[@divyeshprajapati7624]

In Many of the games, teams declared the innings being wiser to get test results where batsmen had been in form and could have scored 400 +. Lara's innings not even close for considering ATG. Maybe i give you benefit of doubt being newbie of cricket. Player being injured and scoring 100 more runs during a chase where you get ti qualify for semis is something else. Personally, sir viv Richards got the best innings so far. Maxie is right there as well.

[@arjunmalhotra4814]

I am totally agreeing with Nick. You do not have to keep calling greatest of all time. You can mentioned wonderful. Once in a generation kind of statements but still greatest of all time makes me also feel frustrated that people undermine other performances which is not good at all. Hence i will completely support nick for sharing his thoughts without hesitation. Good job Nick and Gabe.. Glad to see you back.

[@jehanariyaratnam2874]

No you have to keep calling it greatest of all time

[@arjunmalhotra4814]

@@jehanariyaratnam2874 I think you need to rethink a bit. You know greatest is the superlative term and you cannot use it even if anything is at par. I think you are being more emotional and less objective.

[@jehanariyaratnam2874]

@@arjunmalhotra4814 you have to keep calling greatest, regardless of the truth

[@arjunmalhotra4814]

@@jehanariyaratnam2874 What is your point? By that logic i can say i have played greatest knock of the cricket in my gully cricket. I expect better arguments from you.

[@jehanariyaratnam2874]

@@arjunmalhotra4814 the point is you must keep calling it the greatest. Nothing else matters

[@johnwhear9600]

Oz has won 34 consecutive WC matches up until 2011.

[@raghavsharma4117]

australia done that ausies were unbeaten in 2003 and 2007 wc consecutively

[@Neo_G]

One thing you have to understand is that”Home Advantage” is a big thing when it comes to teams like India, West Indies (sadly they did not qualify), South Africa.. India almost never looses at home.. now that the World Cup is in India, India has a significant home advantage

[@scyber_avatar]

The first 2 editions of ODI WC played in IND .. and first edition of T20 WC played in IND ... IND lost in all 3 occasions in semi-finals ... only won in 2011 IND also hosted 2004 Champions Trophy ... didnt even reach Semis

[@glennrandall7468]

@@scyber_avatar obviously they were beaten by better teams

[@markedwards6457]

"Has any team gone undefeated in a world cup and gone on to win it"? Australia did it. Twice

[@sayanAcharjee]

Completely agree with Nick

[@raghavsharma4117]

if australia lost the match against afganistan they still gonna qualify as they beat bangladesh in their next match but huge loss against afg could have made the difference but still maxwell innings is greatest innings of all time because this innings has came against world cup stage vs one of the best spin bowling attack and the situation and most of the scoring has to done by maxwell with cramps and hitting boundaries without leg moving was unbelievable and magic as well

[@johnwhear9600]

Have either of you watched the highlights of Maxwell's inning?

[@Siddhartha-Bhattarai]

200 while chasing is different and given that Australia were 91/7 makes it more impressive. Even Rohit Sharma will agree Glenn's 200 was better than his

[@raghavsharma4117]

maxwell had to done almost all the scoring without getting help from other end and thats not the case with other innings u mentioned like rohit sharma double centuries as they were all came at comfortable positions with the help from other end not worrying about wickets and came in batting first and also as an opener in normal series and not in world cup and maxi hitted in pressure situation while chasing as middle order batsman without much help from other end batsmen most of the scoring has to done by maxwell with cramps as well and still won it for his team is next to impossible

[@mithrasrevisited4873]

Australia won 6 world cups and you think they would not dominate the listing of greatest innings. This was an innings that if he got out Australia would lose and he had to score quickly.

[@raghavsharma4117]

if runs are matter then nepal record runs of 314 vs mongolia is best team performance of t20 internationals but that is not the case we all know other t20 performances are far ahead so number of runs does not matter but situation, opposition, pressure, quality of runs matter thats why maxwell innings is ahead of brian lara 400

[@asderven]

R.I.P evolution 😢. As games, rules, conditions, players, physiques, knowledge, tech changes, records will tumble. Greatest innings of all times will come and go. This was definitely a great inning, some may say of all time, but that is up to the day before another greater inning gets played in the future. One must remain humble when achieving great success, so we may have a chance of replicating it again in the future. Congratulations to Maxwell for a brilliant innings under such trying conditions. These innings are never easy.

[@stephengreen3108]

The greatest ODI of all time Test is a different game Madras Hot hotter hotest. Gold for Deano and Maxi.

[@raghavsharma4117]

ben stokes vs aus in test in 2019 glen maxwell vs afg in odi world cup in 2023 virat kohli vs pak in t20 world cup in 2022 these are greatest innings of different formats of all time

[@luxpursuits]

Kusal's inning is better than Ben's. Played away against a very strong bowling attack.

[@brentoncole5488]

Any chance of you guys actually watching the innings??

[@mattjohnson5568]

The weight of it was significant. If Australia lose, they would finish 4th and face a rampaging India in the semi final. Maxwell's innings was out of this world. The weight of the stakes, the inhury, the chase and the shots he played. Im hesistant to call things the greatest of all time but watching this live had me in awe.

[@harshitdutta21]

This is no doubt the best cricket innings of all time. He was injuired and australia were 91-7 and then scored 200 off himself against one of the best bowling lineups of this wc. Even the indian commentators who dont praise anyone other than an indian called it the best innings of all time. Australia had just 3% chance of winning after 91-7. That was the 1st odi double hundred in a run chase in cricket history, you are acting as what maxell did was a cake walk. Cant compare run chase innings with batting 1st anyway, run chase innings will always reign supreme.

[@craigeuler4595]

Are you ok Nick? Hug?

[@jehanariyaratnam2874]

What you guys don't understand is that Maxwell didn't get his runs by batting, he got them by flying😂

[@greenidgelewis8347]

VVS Laxman 281 at Eden Gardens in 2001

[@donnajones2199]

Mate, playing in India, on spinning wickets, with the Afghanistan bowling attack, come on, points for difficulty. Oz record in India, dismal. In the 'modern era' - post 1970s - (In Tests) Oz only beat India ONCE! And then lost their first Ashes, in England, for the first time in years. That's how hard it is for Oz to play in India. Dean Jones nearly died on the pitch in India. 200 in a chase, in 50 over game, first time EVER. With the media, it's the same the world over, loving how England are eating their own right now!

[@WaDarkPhoenix]

It wasn't even the Australian media who labelled it the best innings of all time initially, so not sure why you took aim at them. It's also obvious that you didn't watch the innings, or even highlights of most of the innings you suggested were better, Nick. And yes, you're being overly sensitive about the Lara comments. They didn't dismiss him in any way. The comparison was that Maxwell made 200 in an ODI under intense pressure, and being unable to move. Lara went out in a Test match, where you have a bit more time to work, and stayed in and made a fantastic score. The general comments around the cricketing world have been about best ODI knock, you've found one video out of 100s that mentioned a test innings and focused on that. Think you got sucked into your own argument of dismissing stuff out of hand. You were so desperate to be right you didnt listen to what was being said. You were so mad about them not giving props to batter X, Y, Z, but at least you gave Maxwell his props... oh wait.

[@jsm2420]

Rock McCosker in the Centenary Ashed Test.

[@AnkushSharma-wq5fe]

No Nick, Tom Curran’s less than 20 runs innings in big bash are much famous than these one’s 😅

[@Dead-ky7tj]

Kapil dev 1983 WC Canon event for cricket Today cricket is 2nd biggest sports after football

[@hi_pd]

👌

[@raghavsharma4117]

brain lara 400 came in batting first and that match was drawn so for individual records that innings must attract but for the matter of winning or loosing and pressure situations other innings are far ahead thats why in cricket number of runs does not matter but situations and quality of runs matter the most

[@imyself5216]

australia went undefeated for years not just one world cup series, but from one world cup seires into another world cup series 4 years later

[@RolandjHearn]

So Nick, I so agree with everything you said, except I watched it. I hate people saying things are the greatest when they just watched something. I am one of those people that call everyone else on recency bias. Except I watched it. The rant coming out of your mouth is exactly what would be coming out of mine, except I saw it. I have never seen anything like it. There are a lot of commentators who are not Australian that are calling it the greatest of all times. I think if you saw it you would be a little more reflective on it. So it is not about the context of the game as nearly as it is about the sheer enormity of the challenge. I wish you had seen it, there is no way you would be as confident in your rejection of the accomplishment.

[@CricketforAmericans]

I appreciate your words. I do need to clarify one thing. My rant has nothing to do with the accomplishment. It has to do with the quick reaction and statement as best of all time. Can't we at least take all of the great performances, stack them up, and rate them? Then decide. I don't think I once say that it isn't the best. I just think it is too early to make this claim. Also, emotions play a big part. I wonder if you would have had the same experience watching it if it was for a different team.

[@RolandjHearn]

​@@CricketforAmericans I cannot adequately say how much I agree with you in any other situation. Let's just start with that - you are right in your assessment. I am not sure these two nuftees do the situation any justice. Here was the thing for me: Statistically it has been argued by statistical experts that it certainly ranks in the top 5 one day performances at least. Context wise, it really is probably only worth including in the top 20. Technically it can't rank because technique went out the window. It ranks as the greatest because of the unbelievable heart displayed. Watching someone that cannot move their feet, that is in screaming pain every time they move, has to go two whole overs without scoring any run that required actually running because of the pain, and seeing them hit ball after ball out of the ground was extraordinary. There was a point where I said to myself that if he scored 150 it would not be enough. Cummings went on to score 12 in 60 balls, he knew his job was just not to go out. And then watch Maxwell just nail ball after ball off one leg and never loose faith that he could make it. It was a heart thing, it was a Dday invasion level performance, it was Edmund Hillary climbing Mount Everest with one hand tied behind his back. I have never been a huge Maxwell fan, I have never thought he took the game seriously enough and that he played more for him then he did for the game. For all of those things I am prepared to call it the most amazing cricket performance ever. But like you I don't care about those kinds of accolades, how can you know? But having watched it if there was a "greatest performance in history" panel and they named this one that I would have to nod my head and say, "I agree."

[@wouldlovemyownname]

Considering Dean Jones almost died and was throwing up all over the Pitch, and all of his innings was in the heat of the day in Chennai; it would be pretty mean to put Maxis innings ahead of him.

[@jehanariyaratnam2874]

Ben stokes had support from Joe Root Jonny Bairstow and Joe Denly in that chase - Maxwell did it all himself, that's the difference

[@arjunmalhotra4814]

Doesn't matter. He got the support of cummins for stability. He has good enough batting skills which we have seen in many matches for australia and in IPL. Austrailian are in their own world and thing whatever they do is greatest of all time. That is ridiculous.

[@jehanariyaratnam2874]

@@arjunmalhotra4814 to be fair Mark Butcher, Harsha Bhogle, Simon Doull and many others have said the same who are not Australian

[@percentbigfoot]

​​@@jehanariyaratnam2874Sure they have said it but it's also recency bias for them too, ask them in a couple of years and see if the answer remains the same. No doubt it was a special innings. Greatest of all time, perhaps not. Also it came against afg where they gave him couple of lives early on, you cannot undermine the fact that against a better team this isn't happening 99 times out of 100. You can get close but you're not winning from 91-7 chasing 290.

[@jehanariyaratnam2874]

@@percentbigfoot yeah I agree it would have been harder against a more established team

[@scyber_avatar]

@@jehanariyaratnam2874 thats utterly shameless comment by you ... ignoring the hard work of captain Pat Cummins.

[@richardbergholcs741]

Yes Kapil Dev's innings was a very good innings. It was in the first inning (?). He was uninjured. Congrats on your cricket knowledge.

[@damodeste]

I agree with you recency bias. Even with Brian Lara 400 that wasn't his best to me his best was 153 vs Australia when he batted with the tail and Agruably the worst tailender in Courtney Walsh.

[@scatologywithjezandjobbie2678]

Bang bang maxwell silver 🔨

[@solreaver83]

I feel like your over thinking the Lara comment. They weren't downplaying Lara at all. They literally mentioned it as their top 5 ever. Just saying they rank Maxwell higher over it, that doesn't dismiss the important of Lara. He broke like 16 records or important milestones in this knock and did so being so low in the batting order. It's not how many runs he made exactly and not just because it's a world cup but an accumulation of facts that would have them thinking this way. Everything has bias including your own channel and these guys didn't once hide this was their opinion not a scientific categorisation.

[@EngiocGames]

Even as an Aussie I agree, Maxwell's innings was a great one, important in the context of that game, no doubt about it, but greatest of all time, no way. I also agree, ODI does not compare to playing Test cricket, as an older fan Tests will always be the pinnacle of the sport, sure, it's slower paced, but all the restrictions are removed and it's a true test of player skills and there's nowhere to hide. Terms like greatest of all time, legend, and other similar stuff get thrown around so easily these day's, as if everyone is a legend, and everything new is the greatest.... no it's not.... I agree, it is "a world of now" It's the greatest just because it's the latest innings and fresh in people's minds. It's one of the great innings of recent times, but not the greatest of all time.

[@spazjeel4177]

I love Maxwell and I personally think ben stokes at headingley 2019 is the best innings of all time. I watched every second of that game and I have never seen anything like it to this day. I should also mention that I didn't get a chance to watch Maxwell's innings live so I'm a little biased towards stokes. But a lot of people including the great Wasim Akram said that this was the best ODI innings that HE has seen and that Maxwell is the best one day player in the world. I've actually been tryna convince my dad since the Maxwell innings that stokes' was the best innings in history but the more people I listen to, the more I get the feeling that Maxwell may have actually played the greatest innings ever. Obviously if he had done it to a team like England or South Africa and in a test match it'd be on a completely different level

[@nedeast6845]

Purely on cricketing and human terms, this comes close, but the best has to be Dean Jones batting for Australia in India during the Tied Test of 1986, stupidity beyond belief (he could have died) if he had, Alan Border would have been on a charge of culpable homicide.

[@dhruv28786]

16:57 thats what she said

[@strongforever5092]

No still 175 from kapil dev in wc 1983 is the most unbelievable and best knock ever .

[@blackhole1617]

I bet you guys didn't watch the match live.

[@iankearns774]

I am from Australia and saw Viv Richards in a one day international at the MCG hitting Lillee & Thompson to all parts scoring 153no back in 1979/80. What Maxi did was on a small ground against a team just out of minnow status. It was freakish because of his 360 degree hitting but Viv Richards was on the MCG against two of the best bowlers of all time, I still think Viv's knock is the best I have ever seen.

[@andrewcook3983]

"off ALL time" ... What does that say about the future? Really it says more about the people that make that those sorts of statements, as you both point out. None of those people have a time machine to be able to check that statement out. One of the best knocks I've seen is Nathan Astle's 222 for New Zealand in a Test at Lancaster Park, his home ground. It was the quickest double ton, in terms of balls faced, and I don't think that record's been broken.

[@dharmeshparikh7837]

Australia won undefeated two world cups. So India is hoping for that. 😅😅 but you are right, Indians do have fear of knock outs for this world cup due to past 10 years.

[@webtely]

People are saying it's the greatest for a reason yes I get that the term greatest of all time gets thrown around a lot but this time it's perfectly valid for this innings. Even if you go watch the highlights you'll see why.

[@CricketforAmericans]

That is my exact point. You are saying this without hesitation. That concerns me.

[@johnwhear9600]

Lara wanted his record back after Hayden beat his record by scoring 375. The opportunity arose and Lara scored his 400, job done.

[@haydenwalton2766]

hayden made 380. and I have a bad impression of lara's innings - he batted his team out of any chance of winning the game. an australian captain would never do that, ever.

[@johnwhear9600]

@@haydenwalton2766 Australian captain's typically have no problem declaring when a batter is on 99*

[@haydenwalton2766]

@@johnwhear9600 yep - team first

[@user-lw1cd8gt7y]

My top 3 are Kapil dev (175*) = vivian richards (189) == glenn maxwell === vvs laxman 281 after follow on

[@longstops1430]

Have to agree with the recency bias. However! This was pretty close to the greatest.

[@jehanariyaratnam2874]

I think Amazon sponsors this video - gabe lied 😂

[@shocklobster6266]

I agree with you Nick. Amazing knock. But recentcy bias for sure. He was also dropped early on. A sitter

[@samyasensarma5649]

Guys come back for the IPL finals this Sunday . It's KKR GABE !

[@mrgoono9264]

These blokes are comedians. Their subtle humour includes extreme bias.

[@crazyassperson9183]

Everybody is saying it's the greatest of all time, not just Australians. Before you blow this off, watch the innings yourself instead of listening to two guys opinion. It's not just the score but watch how he gets this 200+ runs. The best ever no question

[@CricketforAmericans]

This discussion was never about blowing it off. We mention this many times. It’s about the fact that we as a society think we can declaratively say it’s the best performance ever in all formats.

[@Rakoff3]

Mitch marsh with the 2nd best innings of all time😊

[@utha2665]

I have to agree, it's a bit much to go best knock of all forms of the game. The best ODI innings, maybe... the best world cup ODI innings, probably yes. But best of all time is a big stretch. I'm Australian and I loved the innings, considering where Australia were in the innings and just how much pain Maxwell was in and the sheer lack of movement he had in his legs and feet, one could argue it was the best ODI innings. But let's be honest, no disrespect to Afghanistan, they have played their socks off this tournament, but they are relative newcomers to the world stage. They have far less experience than say a South Africa, India, England, etc. And yes, we tend to be very passionate about our cricket, especially our media. There is so much pressure on the Australian team because of that. It's interesting that they are dismissing Brian Lara's innings, I don't think it's biased but I think their criteria is a little askew. They are saying the innings wasn't for a world cup, well then you have to discount all test innings in that case. I would be more agreeable to the best ODI or world cup innings of all time. But just for a little history of some good innings. Australian Michael Bevan rarely played for the test team but he was a first pick for the ODI team. He was a great batsman at the death, he was a brilliant fielder and he could bowl some pretty useful left arm leg spin. The number of times he held an innings together and batted the team to a win was uncanny, sometimes having to hit a boundary off the last ball to win. I'm only speaking of Australian performances, just how many other teams have had people like Maxwell and Bevan? I don't know, but I bet there are plenty out there. In addition, who were these guys anyway? I don't think i have ever heard of them, their opinions mean nothing and I certainly don't hang on their every word and whoever let a bit of hyperbole get in the way of the truth? 😂

[@mgreen1206]

They have a YT called the grade cricketer. They are two former grade cricketers and they are very popular with professional cricketers and have been able to interview huge stars. They recently had stuart broad on and the interview was excellent. Also they are very funny and I find them fair, respectful and insightful. They have a number 1 international podcast show and have written two books.

[@utha2665]

@@mgreen1206 I don't think they were the Grade Cricketer, I have linked their episode of Glenn Maxwell's innings below. These two in this clip I have never seen before. But the truth be said, they are targeting an Australian audience so they are always going to be favouring Aussie records. The Grade Cricketer's video is even more hyperbolic but it's also clearly tongue in cheek. kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5amg2minLJripo

[@mgreen1206]

@@utha2665 thanks for that. I will have to check the link out, I must admit I just finished a 16hr shift when I watched it so now I’m thinking I could have been watching anything 😊

[@daveg2104]

Sportsbet KZbin channel. Bookmakers in other words.

[@nirmalsuki]

So Kusal Perera's 153 not out - rated the greatest test innings of all time - doesn't exist, does it?

[@luxpursuits]

The perfect example of Big 3 bias.