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[@SimpleSuzie123]

I graduated in December 2019 with my post-master’s FNP degree. I didn’t take boards until June 2020 because of the pandemic. Most of the job offers were trash. These companies want to over work you for very little pay. I finally accepted a NP position in January 2021 doing COVID testing for a retail pharmacy. They were paying $46/hr, but I decided not to renew my contract after working there 8 months. They wanted to convert my job position to RN and lower the pay since they were phasing out the NP role for COVID testing. I am in the process of opening a body contouring studio and I will be doing real estate also. Being an employee is a scam. Don’t waste your talent and potential working for a company when you can build your own company.

[@fatimafrancesa]

omg girl!!!! 😫😫 that’s crazy. but yes the body contouring does amazing and there’s so many other things you can incorporate with the NP within that ! good luck ❤️❤️

[@angeeirene1]

I’m a FNP working as a Pediatric Nephrology NP. I work for the university system but I am 100% clinical practice . I am paid a little over 6 figures as a new grad but I think it’s truly a blessing in disguise because sadly lots of new NP’s aren’t making enough. 😩 I love my job and I would do it all over again even if my student loans were doubled !!

[@fatimafrancesa]

🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

[@josesaenz2194]

Location?

[@SimplyShaiRN]

Love hearing this 💓

[@angeeirene1]

@@josesaenz2194 Texas

[@waterfirelord]

That bad side of going to college that noone tells us at all. The some job need to go to school to get the main idea and sub idea of the job. BUT THE STUDENT LOAN IS KILLS THE STUDENTS NOW. Even they have a good job with 6 to 9 figures, they have to pay x number of years to pay it off.

[@anaadventures7669]

I HATE how NP programs are set up. it's an absolute scam that NPs have to find their own clinicals while PAs and MDs have theirs selected for them, thus ensuring good quality education for them. I'm in NP school now and feel lucky with my first rotation in family medicine. also just a tip for FNPs to be, there are universities that cost less. I go to one in the Houston medical center and am getting my master's for 15K. do your research before you commit!

[@engelique1]

Is your schooling in class? Or online? Thanks In advance

[@chinyereonyenwe9107]

Please what’s the name? Help a sis, I stay in Houston.

[@goldenopportunity31]

It depends on the school you choose to attend my school sets up my clinical rotations.

[@chinyereonyenwe9107]

@@goldenopportunity31 which school please?

[@cweir22]

Same here. Do your research! I went to school for 25k total. And received my FNP degree. Again do your research!

[@ChildOfYAHUUH]

Hi, Ms. Fatima. I usually don't comment on the videos that are geared more towards the nurses because I'm not in that field and don't have any professional interest in it, but I watch you because I think that you're an awesome entrepreneur who has incorporated your skills and natural abilities into businesses which work for you and you have done so flawlessly. So whether or not a person is in the medical field, your inspiration has surpassed only those who want a career in nursing. You've managed to inspire people of ANY field to have the courage to do what they love.💕

[@fatimafrancesa]

thanks so much for watching and being here!! ❤️

[@nikkinurse2339]

As a NP, the higher the pay, the more bulls*** they want you to put up with. One job was paying pretty good, but they wanted an unqualified person to be my supervisor. Basically a MA. And just a heads up-avoid working where a "couple" runs the practice, i.e. wife is the MD and husband is office manager or vice versa. Just my experience

[@MysticDivinerLJ]

Are you serious!? To the first part. And yes!!!!! To the last part! I’m pre law major and worked at a law firm set up like that. I’m I know to stay clear away from those set ups! 👀

[@francescaroache1780]

I really can’t see myself in a hospital or clinical setting either. I love skin analysis and how the body can absorb so much. The human body is an amazing thing. I like that I have options in the medical field. I want to further my career, I don’t want to be just an esthetician I want to further my career as an DNP and get into the depth of it from the medical side of it.

[@TexasStardust11]

Same here! I have been a licensed esthetician for almost two years and already realize I want to build on it and go further into it. I’m considering becoming an aesthetic nurse.

[@koolquality]

I just graduated from the FNP program and passed boards. I spent over 10 months in family medicine, Internal medicine and Peds but I definitely do not see myself working in the clinic or the hospital setting. Healthcare in general is just crazy right now so I’m going down the path to be an entrepreneur and will for sure utilize the NP degree.

[@nursenorman777]

I have quite a few friends who are NPs and they don't work as NPs, they definitely feel like it really wasn't worth it, but to each it's own

[@carynjoi]

Fatima thanks for sharing ! 💕 OG here 💗 you were one of the few that inspired me to get into nursing in the first place. I have a couple of friends that are NPs and feel overworked and underpaid but are telling me I should go back to school. Currently working in Derm & though I haven’t felt any pressure ( yet) as an Lpn , I know I want WAY more for myself even though I’m getting by pretty fine as a clinical lead. NP would definitely be my end goal. & I had to LOL at the insurance company run around I deal with that on the daily and it’s ridiculous from the hold times to literally having patients waiting for a pre auth approval just to get denied ; or having to schedule peer to peers for a biologic we know tried and true it works but because the insurance companies don’t want to pay or rather use their “ specialty drug” that dsnt work - they would rather have the patient suffer. It’s unbelievable lol🤦🏻‍♀️. But thanks again for sharing girl. I love your journey💗💗💗

[@ShneiceB]

Yes, you can do a lot with your degree as well as an RN degree... I'm in NP school right now for Women's health and I might have to open up a spa...you are doing so good...continue on and many blessings....🤗 We all are under paid, but they want us to do so much schooling, baffling....🙄

[@monetince-amara6645]

Great video! As an PMHNP in private practice I love my role. I always break it down to how much I need to make in an hour to meet my financial goals. This helps one determine whether they need to set a goal of seeing 6 patients a day vs the 20 other NPs are seeing working for someone else. I can relate to your statement about the insurance company dictating care, but in the in for me working on the frontlines of mental health is worth it. Thanks for making your videos. It will continue to help other nurses have a better idea of what they are really getting themselves into. In my opinion, being a nurse entrepreneur is the ONLY way to go.

[@AntonioLiberato08]

About the start PMHNP program with Wilkes. Been a. Psych nurse for 12 years. I want my own practice too - Goodluck!

[@JanellNelle]

👋🏾 OG here… I was recently accepted into an NP program and I’m all set to start in January. I’ve been having doubts and found this video very helpful. I would LOVE to own my own business one day… I’ve hit a bunch of roadblocks so far but I’m determined not to give up. I’m hoping that becoming a provider will help with the process! Thanks for the inspiration love ❤️

[@Smallz_69]

I always appreciate your honesty ! Much love from Houston ❤️

[@anajoceb]

Thank u for ur honesty and transparency in this video!!

[@sujascaria7736]

I obtained my BSN to DNP with family practice focus from a state University. The hospital I worked as a nurse actually paid all my tuition fees. And the same hospital hired me as a nurse practitioner in advanced heart failure. We also cover heart transplant and VAD patients. We are scheduled to see patients inpatient and outpatient settings. We also supervise stress testings. We also participate in research studies. It’s a great job with great salary. Unfortunately, I don’t see any more opportunities for further growth in this position. I am also very passionate about to be a nurse entrepreneur and learning about it further at this time.

[@goldenopportunity31]

I can’t believe you paid 70k for your fnp…I’m sorry. I graduate May 2023 with my FNP and my tuition is $43k. I also am planning to go the nurse entrepreneur route. I’ve saved 100k so far to start my own practice. I’m thinking of going the Botox med spa route. Thank you for your videos your truly an inspiration ❤️

[@mariposa383]

Im a Precertification Specialist and I understand what you mean with the insurances. It’s like a push back with the insurances for Medications and also radiology authorizations. It’s too much of a hassle with insurances and then the frustration of the patients when you have to let them know there insurance doesn’t cover.

[@amandaoser7200]

Thank you for the information my friend. Deciding to go back to school is difficult ESPECIALLY if you feel burned out and no longer interested in your specialty (Medical ICU turned COVID ICU). Who out there loves there nursing specialty even 80% of the time? Inform us!

[@oyato1]

Why is everyone tryna open a med spa? Is it a booming venture? What’s the monthly to yearly profit like both gross and net before and after staff , overhead , inventories, loan payback n other business costs/ payments ?

[@tvitales53]

I'm a PhD, Clinical Psychologist & will be opening up my own practice. Insurances companies does the same. Very frustrating at times.

[@DW5918]

Truly an inspiring. I’m debating to go the nursing for BS RN and possibly NP. However, I can’t see myself doing clinical or bedside. I can see myself doing administrative work or something business related. I do love holistic medicine. I currently work at medical call center. So I understand the insurance the coming back saying it pisses me off to when I process claims.

[@DesChanel333]

I work in pre registration for a hospital , these insurance companies are a mess just straight up denying patients exams and wanting providers to do “ Peer to peer “ reviews . I literally just started a month ago and I’m over insurance 🤣

[@fatimafrancesa]

😫😫😫 literallyyyyyy

[@ElizabethRamirez-mj5dg]

Hi Fatima! I'm one of those OGs! Congrats on your new business! Yes, I feel the same. I started at Simmons too and moved on to another university but i too felt I was not knowledgable or confident enough when I graduated. Moving away from the bedside as an RN, however, has been so liberating. Being an NP does open many more doors for nurse entrepreneurs, even if it's not in the health care field. I was even thinking of starting a hot shot business with my husband, lol. It's good to see how you've grown into yourself and your career. As a long time fan of yours and peer, I'm super proud of you :)

[@fatimafrancesa]

yes girl definitely and thank you !!!

[@connie_comb2455]

What’s a hot shot business?

[@farahrazy3436]

I’m an acute care NP, work in the hospital setting, getting paid ~1.5K. I graduated almost debt free since my hospital employer paid for my NP degree. I work full time but have flexibility with my hours-can’t really complain. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@PeanutJelly90]

Good for you!!!

[@jackienims]

I am a new FNP but live overseas right now so I haven't been able to start working. I have followed you for so long and I am so happy for you, doing what you love. I know a lot of medical professionals who work a few years in the healthcare industry, get burnt out and go into business. You don't owe anyone anything for choosing your path, you sound happy and successful in what you are doing, and that's enough. I hope I will find the same once we come back to the U.S.

[@jackienims]

Also, side note, I ended up going to your Alma matter for NP school (knew co-workers who went there & recommended it), and I had the opposite experience thankfully. I also found my clinical sites and that is where all the learning happens, so it was a blessing in disguise. I don't think anyone feels ready when they graduate, but thankfully I felt competent enough. I hope in the future, NP schools will be better about helping students find quality clinical sites.

[@ingert1441]

So true, a good clinical site makes a difference. That is the biggest challenge. I attended an FNP program at a state university, and I remember telling my school that I was not getting sufficient hands-on at my clinical site {an internal medicine office} but their response was that they try very hard to get these sites. In other words "suck it up!" I really felt short-changed. It has been one year since I graduated and got my board certification and much of my apprehension is due to that. I am still in the market for a job and I wonder if that is why I am not as aggressive in getting a job.

[@laurenfrancis9772]

I'm glad that you are at peace and doing fabulous things

[@nxnyj9616]

I've been fighting with myself for months on going back to school to do this. I want to open up a medical spa but I want to be a PA so I can have that flexibility. I work in the spa field already but trying to find the best avenue to go about in order to open my business is hard. Some states don't allow you to hire healthcare providers if your not one yourself 😔 so thats my dilemma. But I think I need to just bite the bullet and go back to school so I can have more ownership over the spa.

[@mariapadilla7501]

A CT would only be requested if the patient has HW or pacemaker, etc... Yes, it is a chess game with insurance companies.

[@taniaperez7370]

ahhh i love your videos Fatima! Im not interested in going into the nursing field long term but your journey is just so interesting and I love seeing your growth from your RN days to now !!! You're such a boss and an inspiration. I literally have been watching you since I started college and i recently graduated-- hoping to become a PA in the future. so happy for all your success and i love your transparency in all your videos. You motivate me to reach for the stars and beyond. I was so busy with school but now that i finished this past summer i am finally able to catch up on all your YT videos. Much love !

[@fatimafrancesa]

thanks so much !! 💕💕

[@love_nyc_]

Omg only 70k?! I went to pharmacy school & my tuition after 6 years was about 280k total 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@fatimafrancesa]

oh no 😫😫 i would be distraught lol

[@jboogiboo]

What the actual f"***

[@love_nyc_]

@@jboogiboo Yes, about 50k per year, it's crazy! My parents actually paid for it so I am super grateful. I do have a really good paying job now tho so even if I had loans, I would have been okay. You make the money back SUPER quick!

[@love_nyc_]

@@fatimafrancesa My parents paid, thankfully, or else I would have been paying student loans until I die LOL

[@breezy_basil]

I think the $70k doesn't include the other 4 years to get your BSN before you're able to get your MSN.

[@macy5676]

36 an hour!! Omg! I would be like ok where’s the camera? Am I on pranked!?

[@fatimafrancesa]

GIRL !!

[@ceiaraburchett6027]

$36??? Insane for the liability of working in a clinic as a provider! I’m graduating this December and I feel the same way. My ideal job would be working in a medical spa but I also love the federal qualified clinic I did some clinicals with. Other than that, I did not enjoy the other clinicals I had sadly. Im happy with getting my degree and opening up more opportunities for myself I don’t regret it.

[@MelloneeKecia]

This was really good definitely enjoyed this very eye opening 👍🏾👏🏾🤗👁

[@angeeirene1]

Yasss queeennn !!! First one !! 🥰🥰🥰

[@fitnessbabe7958]

Girl, I think having that NP brings benefits.

[@kymbrajohnson4535]

I'm in Insurance and I agree but it is the hired on PCP and Nurses that are making those calls.

[@Isha-dw1mv]

Does anyone know anything about LaSalle university (Philadelphia)online FNP program? Can anyone recommend an affordable online program in the NY,NJ, PA, CT area?

[@nicolemartinez9613]

This might be more so a personal question, but how do you negotiate pay with your medical director and RNs?

[@mommafitbit3701]

I guess it makes a difference if you go into the field, any field, for the money. For example, if one didn't have loans/payment bill, would that make a difference in salary requirements.

[@TheRealLadyMagnus]

When you said $36 in hour... for an FNP....🥵😵 That's crazy.

[@jenniferwoods9884]

Right there at the end! I totally regret getting NP degree.

[@lamishabuchanan1569]

Thank you for the video Fatima! It was support insightful!

[@stacya2724]

Thank you for the informative video! Do you not see yourself in the clinical side because you feel like your not competent? I currently got accepted to NP school and I worked in a primary care office as a medical assistant for a while so I understand the workload for providers and that part of healthcare is tough. I’m my opinion I feel like it is what it is, the system is built that way unfortunately but focusing on helping people os what keeps me going.

[@antoinetteosborne6976]

I'm proud of you!

[@peaceandshine]

Was 70k the complete cost for your NP degree, or just the amount that you borrowed for student loans? I think I remember in one of your videos you mentioned you were paying for some of school out of pocket and then took out loans for the rest.

[@priscillarosendo8144]

lol i make $36 hr as a regular BSN RN dang. Also I start my MSN this fall 2022 and Im so excited to start my own business as an FNP.

[@sheilatrn4633]

I'm making 45 to 48 dollars an hr as an RN I'm working on my BSN to hopefully get my NP I would laugh if someone tried to offer $36, that is crazy and just completely messed up! I plan to work for a little bit as a clinical NP and then maybe start my own business. We will see.

[@fatimafrancesa]

girl definitely! that’s what crossed my mind, like there’s RNs making more that that! but yes definitely look into business .. it’s a great venture

[@jennaslife1530]

@sheila T RN what state do you live in?

[@sheilatrn4633]

@@jennaslife1530 I live in Jacksonville Fl

[@jennaslife1530]

@Sheila T RN do you mind if I ask what your specialty is in?

[@sheilatrn4633]

@@jennaslife1530 right now I'm a corporate nurse working between two different facilities in long term care PRN.

[@bodaciousdani]

Hey Fatima, can you talk about picking a program ??? Im stuck between fnp and acnp

[@ntm1026]

I just started my preceptorship for HCA as a BSN nurse. I’m in med teli PCU but I have a background in esthetics, laser, and injectables . So I am definitely considering doing NP or perhaps going the ICU/ CRNA route. Anyways I am hoping to switch to the ER in 6 months and work part time as at a med spa also. So hopefully I will have a better idea of my nurse specialty soon because I definitely want to go back to school within a year.

[@athomewithpearl]

Hello, thank you for all these info. I’m about to finish NP program in November and I really want to get into med aesthetic . I don’t have any med aesthetic experience as an RN. I plan someday to own a med spa. Can you recommend any training that will be helpful to start my own med spa one day. So far I completed a training on Botox and fillers. Any training for IV hydration? That you can recommend ? I will appreciate any info and thanks in advance.

[@swtpriya1]

I’m on the same exact boat ! Yes please tell us !

[@ceiaraburchett6027]

Also interested!

[@naomidavis3876]

Yes please!

[@AshleyUB12]

The Elite Np and Vee the NP are very helpful and have good reviews. You can find them on Facebook 😊

[@curious_rose8865]

Who did you complete your Botox/fillers training with? Would you recommend it to others? I’m currently looking to get trained on those two things.

[@keshiwilliamson3274]

Do you feel like taking any business courses would have been beneficial?

[@beingclaire_.]

Ouuu I’m ready and early!!

[@caramelchic123]

Do you work under a MD? I u hear that NPs have to be signed off by a MD

[@fatimafrancesa]

yes I have a medical director

[@kimberella2105]

I wish I had more RN friends. I work from home so I don’t see anyone

[@juliannaortiz8586]

Working as an MA i can definitely understand the frustration with the healthcare system. I can’t tell you the amount of times i’ve spent on the phone doing appeals or figuring out what’s going on with our patients Rx’s; especially with biologics. 😑

[@AlexandryiaJae]

Absolutely not! I make more than 36 as an ADN. No. Absolutely not.

[@andreacorreia2136]

Do you have to be an FNP to become an aesthetic NP or can you just have an MSN in nursing ?

[@shonahall1876]

I’m curious about this too cause I want a msn in nursing but probably acute care and not sure if it will affect me having my own business or med spa if I choose that route

[@CeCe-os3ul]

Does the 70k include for the four years of college.

[@fatimafrancesa]

no. I didn’t take out loans for undergrad

[@shannasonabudget]

Big Gems, thank you. Great info

[@Mstechgf]

Mine was 50000

[@SimplyShaiRN]

CHALD ! 36 😱😱😱 it’s the your irrelevant for me 😂😂😂

[@fatimafrancesa]

girl !! you feel me

[@SweetLust21]

I would have been offended!! I graduated in June with my ADN and my start pay is $36.69. Night differential is $5.50 and weekend is $4.50!

[@haaayitsanna]

whaaat I started at this rate as an RN

[@connie_comb2455]

@@haaayitsanna 😳👀

[@communitysolutionspro1520]

I saw a really interesting opportunity for telehealth. There are definitely more entrepreneurial opportunities out there.