Was Sonny a Good Don? | Who Would Win Sonny Corleone VS Michael Corleone?

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Was Sonny Corleone a Bad Don? Who Would Win Sonny Corleone VS Michael Corleone?
Sonny did inherit a lot of Vito’s characteristics, however his reckless nature and temper led to his downfall, and prevented him from rising to the rank of don.
Sonny was there to watch his father the don, build an empire from absolutely nothing to an empire worth billions 💰
After the attempt on Vito, Sonny was thrust into he position of acting boss where he had to ensure the family was able to survive this well laid out trap. And he does actually achieve this, although later on he would make some critical mistakes, sonny was by no means a completely incompetent leader. He managed to lure out the traitor who set up Vito, he had the dons of the other five families cower into hiding, proving his ability to go head to head with these highly skilled veterans in the mafia. In which is no small task, having to withstand the wrath of 4 major families, let alone at once. But why did Vito say that Sonny was a bad don? And how does Sonny compare to his younger brother Michael?
This video is split into 2 sections, the first is going to analyse whether or not Sonny was a good don, and in different circumstances, could Sonny have transformed himself and truly become a don worthy of leading the Corleone family.
Then we go into something you all have been wanting to see, Who would win if Sonny and Michael would go head to head, who was the better don?
Sonny Corleone, one of the best characters in the iconic film the godfather. He is definitely a fan favourite.
0:00 Coming Up...
1:46 Was Sonny a Good Don?
3:18 Who is Michael Corleone?
4:00 Who is Sonny Corleone?
5:26 Brutality
6:10 Would Sonny Take Out Fredo?
6:55 Brutality
7:05 Intelligence
10:05 Fear
11:48 Cunning
13:04 Respect
13:18 Diplomacy
14:04 Overall
14:30 The Winner is...
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@TheCultureMafia
@TheCultureMafia 2 жыл бұрын
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@rocks_n_charms4902
@rocks_n_charms4902 2 жыл бұрын
Michael vs Jimmy from goodfellas
@averymurray4722
@averymurray4722 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see Michael vs Don Luccesse from The Godfather 3.
@xandercage8082
@xandercage8082 2 жыл бұрын
Michael Corleone vs Alejandro Sosa (from Scarface)
@nyamtserenbatdolgor4222
@nyamtserenbatdolgor4222 2 жыл бұрын
Don Vito all the way.
@clu4u
@clu4u 2 жыл бұрын
@@xandercage8082 Al Neri vs Alejandro Sosa, Al vs Al, lol 😂
@knivesmillions2913
@knivesmillions2913 2 жыл бұрын
Michael is a scalpel. Sonny is a chainsaw. Fredo is a butter knife.
@clearspira
@clearspira 2 жыл бұрын
What's funny of course is that even a butter knife can kill if you press it hard enough into the right spot. Which is exactly what he did when he betrayed Micheal.
@tanjahorvatserbiaoldslavsh4685
@tanjahorvatserbiaoldslavsh4685 2 жыл бұрын
👏👏👏👏👏
@anabella4296
@anabella4296 2 жыл бұрын
@@clearspira more like a disposable plastic knife 🔪
@robertmasina4610
@robertmasina4610 2 жыл бұрын
That's a good analogy.
@benderbendingrofriguez3300
@benderbendingrofriguez3300 2 жыл бұрын
and Connie?
@jasonwiggins6137
@jasonwiggins6137 2 жыл бұрын
The Sonny character from the book, and seen in the deleted scenes, was complex and wasn't always the "hothead". Sonny was underrated.
@giovanirubalcava6770
@giovanirubalcava6770 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely my favorite character from the movie.
@donshipman8441
@donshipman8441 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, Book Sonny and movie Sonny were waaaaaay different!
@bush1701
@bush1701 2 жыл бұрын
@@donshipman8441 You know what I'm going to order the book because I've heard this before time I read it for myself
@tokenstandpoint93
@tokenstandpoint93 2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!
@chuckmartin935
@chuckmartin935 2 жыл бұрын
Yep-the book is usually better than the movie version. Although Coppola is the only guy who gets as close to book as possible
@panteraxenos4789
@panteraxenos4789 2 жыл бұрын
Based on the fact Michael was a MARINE CAPTAIN during WW2 and according to his medals was involved in the action / front lines , he was trained in war strategy and maneuvers. That alone speaks volumes about his prowess in the Corleone war.
@McBoofus
@McBoofus 2 жыл бұрын
Knowledge is power
@mikhailiagacesa3406
@mikhailiagacesa3406 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for being one of the few to catch this. I don't know if it's in the books, but he looks like 1st Marine Division; if Michael is, then he HAS shot people point blank (before Solanzo). It's just that they were Japanese Imperial soldiers.
@whathell6t
@whathell6t 2 жыл бұрын
@@McBoofus Nope! It’s grander (depending on the individual, it’s insidious or enlightening) than that. The original quote is this: “knowledge is power and power is knowledge” -Michel Foucault, Discipline and Punish: Birth of Prisons.
@gawainethefirst
@gawainethefirst 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikhailiagacesa3406 He may have ended up as a captain in the Marines, but he started off as an enlisted man. So he definitely saw some action.
@mikhailiagacesa3406
@mikhailiagacesa3406 2 жыл бұрын
@@gawainethefirst Thumbs up! Was that in the book? (Yes, I know I should read it.)
@TheDCGuitar13
@TheDCGuitar13 2 жыл бұрын
Sonny is a guy you want to take someone else’s empire over. Michael is the guy you want to keep it.
@aaronrowell6943
@aaronrowell6943 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah Sonny benefited from having the empire being there for him to run. I don't think he could build one or expand it like Michael does. Although would Sonny make as many enemies as Michael does?
@maxwellhuey
@maxwellhuey 2 жыл бұрын
He couldn't even maintain his own empire, Michael was weak
@aaronrowell6943
@aaronrowell6943 2 жыл бұрын
@@maxwellhuey This is something when you compare sonny and Michael that is interesting to me as I see people talk about this in the comments that's easy to say that Michael is better but his calculations made a lot of enemies and these enemies will constantly cause him more and more problems. The only reason that Hyman Roth made war against him is because he killed Moe Greene. Sonny did a good job as the temporary Don, but he was easily put into a box as the scene shows with him and Tom explaining that they can't do everything he wants to do. Michael breaks mob conventions but in doing so he creates a long list of enemies for life.
@TheDCGuitar13
@TheDCGuitar13 2 жыл бұрын
@@maxwellhuey Michael understood that running the show without the title was a better move than being the lightning rod himself. He always ran things. His wealth didn’t come from nowhere.
@TheDCGuitar13
@TheDCGuitar13 2 жыл бұрын
@@aaronrowell6943 fighting everyone head on at once makes you more enemies a lot faster. The way Michael ran things, his enemies had to be good to him To gain his trust which they failed at.
@jasonkoch3182
@jasonkoch3182 2 жыл бұрын
I doubt Fredo would have betrayed Sonny the way he did Michael. Fredo was upset he got passed over for his younger brother, that's why he started working with Roth and Ola. He expected Sonny to get the top job, so he would never have been passed over, thus there's no reason for him to betray the family.
@samuelmiller7987
@samuelmiller7987 2 жыл бұрын
"IT'S NOT THE WAY I WANTED IT!!"
@cityhunter557
@cityhunter557 2 жыл бұрын
I doubt it. I think fredo was involved in don vitos hit. In Gf2...when micheal said to fredo twice ....you believed that story...fredo was the prime traitor from the beginning..thats why vito planned the solozzo meeting..just to find out the traitor.
@nyg_dbone
@nyg_dbone 2 жыл бұрын
Fredo was a herb regardless
@fotzegamingandmedia1840
@fotzegamingandmedia1840 2 жыл бұрын
@@cityhunter557 I have no idea where you're getting the idea that Fredo betrayed his father. Nothing in the film points to that. Also, Vito didn't set up a meeting with Solozzo, he set up a meeting with Barzini and the heads of the Five Families, and he did that to figure out who was really backing Solozzo, because Tattalgia wasn't smart or cunning enough to make the power moves being made against the Corleones. And in the end, it's revealed that the two traitors were Carlo and Tessio, both working with Barzini against the Corleones for their own reasons
@fridakahlo4225
@fridakahlo4225 2 жыл бұрын
👏👏👏
@Niles-Guy
@Niles-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
Sonny was a emotional Don who thought with his heart rather than his brains. Being a Don is like playing chess ♟. You have to anticipate your opponents next move rather than lashing out.
@orion000
@orion000 2 жыл бұрын
Shut up niles
@Niles-Guy
@Niles-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
@@orion000 see what I mean …you’d NEVER be a good Don…too emotional 😂😂😂
@inpognito_6293
@inpognito_6293 2 жыл бұрын
@@Niles-Guy well said. Also, an* my friend.
@maxwellhuey
@maxwellhuey 2 жыл бұрын
Michael was a pawn given King duties, he wouldn't have made it...and clearly didn't (in terms of being a "true Don") he always looked for a way out instead of embracing the role
@Niles-Guy
@Niles-Guy 2 жыл бұрын
@@maxwellhuey he looked for a way out only after years of serving as Don because he knew the old ways of doing things were gone. That if you are to survive one has to adapt to the system and be part of it . That’s why Michael said he wanted the family to be 100% legitimate.
@Kemot300
@Kemot300 2 жыл бұрын
"Tattaglia's a pimp. He never could've out-fought Santino. But I didn't know until this day that it was Barzini all along." I think this quote illustrates what Vito thought of his oldest son. In Vito's eye's Sony was "a bad Don" because he was not in the "Top league". Sony was most likely quite good in the job. It would be enough to win against people like Tattaglia's but the Don knew that there were also people like Barzini. People much closer to Vito's level. And that they would be to much for Sony to handle, which proved true.
@brandonmedina494
@brandonmedina494 2 жыл бұрын
Tattaglia is viewed as the weakest Don in terms of intellect, cunning and wisdom which Vito and Barzini had in spades. Sonny was a master tactician especially in open warfare. I agree with your assessment. Vito and Barzini are top dog level within the mafia. 10/10. Tattaglia I'd place at 7/10. Sonny being 8.5. Not enough to handle someone like Barzini but skilled enough to take on Tattaglia.
@markcadieux3445
@markcadieux3445 2 жыл бұрын
@@brandonmedina494 Sonny was more ferocious and instilled fear in his enemies which can be an advantage. Michael was more intelligent and therefore able to outsmart his enemies which is better than scaring them.
@ragnar8771
@ragnar8771 2 жыл бұрын
@@markcadieux3445 well they thought michael is a green boy because they didnt knew him and jumped right in the fire, if they knew he is intelligent maybe they woulve been more careful
@Hellserch
@Hellserch Жыл бұрын
Very good analysis.
@harlequin75
@harlequin75 Жыл бұрын
I thought Vito said "out-foxed" and not "out-fought". The former gives Sonny credit for being a good tactician which he was despite his temper
@dpwtruck30
@dpwtruck30 2 жыл бұрын
Sonny Corleone as he was written in the novel was actually very smart. He and Tessio came up with the plan to execute all the heads of the family that Michael wound up using at the end of the story. Sonny was the better fighter and better suited to win a war. His wasn't able to control his temper which led to errors in judgment so ultimately Michael is the one best suited to be Don.
@ragnar8771
@ragnar8771 2 жыл бұрын
true
@jaswerner419
@jaswerner419 2 жыл бұрын
@ dpw truck 🚒 Amen ... JUST looking at your post 🏣👉🎉
@greekperspective2076
@greekperspective2076 Жыл бұрын
He was never don. Only for a short period and he managed to get himself killed. Most dons have attempts on their life all the time. A smart don doesn’t get killed.
@greekperspective2076
@greekperspective2076 Жыл бұрын
And anyone can plan to take someone out execution of the plan makes you smart. We all have plans.
@Carefreeblues
@Carefreeblues Жыл бұрын
Only because barzini knew the right trigger, which is through Carlo.
@bravocharliedelta4
@bravocharliedelta4 2 жыл бұрын
While Santino had the street smarts, Michael was a Captain in the Marine Corps, had combat experience, and studied tactics. The pacific theater was especially brutal fighting the Japanese and island hopping tactics used by the Marines. This could be why he wasn't concerned with a brawling or all out war; he was calculating and swift by targeting the dons in order to make a quick victory.
@maxwellhuey
@maxwellhuey 2 жыл бұрын
The plan to take out the other 4 dons was Santino's though...VIto perfected it and Michael executed it...His role in the plan is exaggerated
@bravocharliedelta4
@bravocharliedelta4 2 жыл бұрын
@@maxwellhuey you're definitely right when it comes to Michael having to help from his father. However Michael's choice in humbly listening to his fathers wisdom still stands to support his strengths. Michael's idea to gun down Solozzo and the police captain also greatly gives him credit as that was solely his idea. As much as Michael didn't come up as a gangster, he was still very skilled in the art of war.
@maxwellhuey
@maxwellhuey 2 жыл бұрын
@@bravocharliedelta4 I like that train of thought 👍 Michael definitely earned the family respect for that one
@maxwellhuey
@maxwellhuey 2 жыл бұрын
@@bravocharliedelta4 Remember though, Sonny came up with the plan and execution of it through his contacts (and the family)…Michael suggested it. That’s no disrespect to the man but the others were far more experienced in matters of war. The main issue wasn’t killing Sollozo, the fear was gunning down the Police captain… if they figured out how to do it there wouldn’t have been a war… Michael took it personally and that’s why he taunted McCluskey, he also didn’t have to shoot him once the Turk was dead… All I’m saying is that if a little more planning went into it, the police wouldn’t have had to crackdown on all the families…sure the war would have happened but adding the police into it probably took it overboard
@rollup9113
@rollup9113 2 жыл бұрын
but im gonna wait, after the baptism
@Slammy555
@Slammy555 2 жыл бұрын
I think Michael was ultimately more respected due to his tenure as Don. Sonny only covered a few weeks while Vito was recovering and got himself killed.
@sgcraig2430
@sgcraig2430 2 жыл бұрын
It was much longer than a few weeks 😂
@maxwellhuey
@maxwellhuey 2 жыл бұрын
Did you watch anything past GF1?... There's barely any corleone family after that...Michael ruined it....People disrespected him to his face...When Santino died...the whole underworld was shaken to its core...Michael died as a miserable man with nothing...No one cared about him in the end
@sgcraig2430
@sgcraig2430 2 жыл бұрын
@@maxwellhuey exactly !!!!
@maxwellhuey
@maxwellhuey 2 жыл бұрын
It took about 3 years... They just can't show it in a movie, but it says so in the book
@sgcraig2430
@sgcraig2430 2 жыл бұрын
@Joel Johnson Respected by whom ? Could you imagine Moe Green disrespecting Sonny ? Could you imagine Frank Pentangelli disrespecting Sonny ? The answer is no, respect and fear go hand in hand in the mafia world
@cloiacano369
@cloiacano369 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, Sonny successfully fought an open street war against the four New York families, Michael slaughtered his enemies while their guard was down and fought a battle of subterfuge in Godfather 2.
@cathyaudette1060
@cathyaudette1060 2 жыл бұрын
Michael wins the question of Respect, Sonny was too easily manipulated because of his emotional volatility and others knew that. He was murdered because his love for his sister made him a predictable target. But, to this day, I still cannot watch Sonny being ambushed and shot to death. I'll always have a sentimental soft heart for Sonny, bad temper and decisions notwithstanding.
@nyamtserenbatdolgor4222
@nyamtserenbatdolgor4222 2 жыл бұрын
If only they showed Santino's deleted scenes and focused a bit more on him in the movies! People never really got to see Sonny calculating and how successful he was in the 5 family wars. Plus, he didn't go to the mattresses straight up and was fueled with rage after Sollozzo attempted to murder the defenseless Don in the hospital (an honorless dog move). I guess ultimately his passion and love for his family would be his undoing thanks to his temper.
@NelsonStJames
@NelsonStJames 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, those scenes were great; maybe one day we'll get those extended cuts considering that Coppola seems to be doing that with all his older works, and this is one case where I wouldn't particularly mind at all.
@greatone275
@greatone275 2 жыл бұрын
You just stated why Michael was better than Sonny The Sollozzo incident Sonny was blinded by rage and got emotional, where as Michael remained cool
@Jim-Tuner
@Jim-Tuner 2 жыл бұрын
Santino's great mistake was not seeing who he was really fighting (Barzini). Only Vito was able to figure that out. Santino's general strategy of fighting all-out was the right one. Any attempt at compromise with the other families would have ended in disaster. Michael was able to get away with playing a "long game" against the other families because they didn't take him seriously and underestimated him. Santino would not have been able to get away with that. And contrary to the film, Tom was a bad consigleaire. A worse consigleaire than Santino was a bad don. Santino's other mistake was in not pushing Tom to the side when the war broke out as Michael eventually did. Santino needed a consigleaire that he would respect and listen to. And a consigleaire who could balance out the more extreme aspects of Santino's personality. Rather than reasoning with him, Tom would just yell at him. And while he won in the short term, Michael in the long run was a terrible don. His great weakness was his obsession with trying to make himself and his organization into something other than what they were. He made his own mistake in being totally oblivious in not understanding that his move into casinos was a move against the interests of Roth and Roth's associates like Moe Green. He never figured out that his move into the nevada casinos amounted to a declaration of war against Roth.
@greatone275
@greatone275 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jim-Tuner Tom was a bad Don because should have figured out that Sollozzo wasnt a shoot caller, a shot caller needs influence not money, I kinda disagree on you with Michael, Roth had no problem with Moe being removed that was business, I believe Michael's downfall was not being able to hold on to his family
@nyamtserenbatdolgor4222
@nyamtserenbatdolgor4222 2 жыл бұрын
@@greatone275 He was a product of all the negative changes that happened so quickly around him. I firmly believe that had Sonny and Michael both served under Vito and spent some more time learning from him instead of being thrust into the action so suddenly, they BOTH would have been unstoppable in their own specialties.
@samuelmiller7987
@samuelmiller7987 2 жыл бұрын
I refuse the whole premise of Sonny vs. Michael; who would win? The 2 brothers were incredibly close, and loved each other. Michael would have been loyal to Sonny and not felt the resentment Fredo felt for being looked over.
@richardmoores
@richardmoores 2 жыл бұрын
True, but this is hypothetical
@dingusrevolver
@dingusrevolver 2 жыл бұрын
It's not asking "Who would win in a fight?" It's asking who would be more competent as a leader.
@anabella4296
@anabella4296 2 жыл бұрын
Sonny was to predictable with his temper . I give the win to Michael 💯
@DemeterTelphousia-Erinyes
@DemeterTelphousia-Erinyes 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@weezy66
@weezy66 2 жыл бұрын
@@DemeterTelphousia-Erinyes without a doubt!
@thomascuous7772
@thomascuous7772 2 жыл бұрын
No doubt
@maxwellhuey
@maxwellhuey 2 жыл бұрын
In a moment of weakness Sonny acted out but come on… in the books they tried to get him multiple times and he always managed to escape… they only showed one moment in the movie because that’s when he died…. Watching the movie, you’d think that the war only took a week or so yet it went on for about 3 years, or that it took one meeting for Luca Brasi to get killed, tbh it took a while before he could even get into the Tattaglia clubs without people being nervous about him… All I can say is that the screenplay had to cut out a lot to meet the time limits. Sonny wasn’t given a fair amount of time in the movies for people to understand him… But I do agree he died because of his temper lol 😂
@ernestschultz5065
@ernestschultz5065 2 жыл бұрын
That's what got him killed.
@minhkhoi88
@minhkhoi88 2 жыл бұрын
It's clearly said in the book that Sonny would never kill someone defenseless and prostrating before him. He wouln't have whacked Fredo
@phoggknight6714
@phoggknight6714 2 жыл бұрын
I think he would have killed Carlo.
@tmage23
@tmage23 2 жыл бұрын
Michael had basically lost any sense of family at that point. It started way back when he told his own brother "Never go against the Family" - meaning "never interfere with my business". As ruthless as Vito and Sonny were, they always kept the perspective of family coming first before "Family"
@elrafa5845
@elrafa5845 2 жыл бұрын
@@tmage23 end of day cosa nostra comes before family thats a fact
@Filip-db2tn
@Filip-db2tn 2 жыл бұрын
Sonny was a loving men, and Fredo wouldn’t betray him in the first place and thats the point. Michael was much smarter than Sonny, but you see that being a don changed him a lot, which even a WW2 couldn’t. He was a kind, loving guy at the beggining of the movie, later on he becomes way too cold, it seemed like he was always worried, under stress, 24/7 working. Unlike him, Vito and Sonny were more casual, more comfortable and relaxed, it seemed natural to them becouse they grew up on the streets. That’s why they managed to maintain a loving side when they spend time with their family. Mike was a genius who never wanted to be mafioso, he lived a normal life, mob life messed up his emotions and that escalated to Key leaving him and Fredo’s death. The whole point of the movies was a tragic story of Mike Corleone, a men who was pushed into something he never wanted, becoming most powerful men in the country but loosing his very own family. He reedemed himself in GF3 but his sins still followed him
@emberducati9237
@emberducati9237 2 жыл бұрын
Fredo probably wouldn’t have betrayed the family if Sonny had still be alive.
@TXPAScot
@TXPAScot 2 жыл бұрын
DON CORLEONE: "Tom -- I advise Michael. I never thought you were a bad Consiglieri. I thought -- Santino was a bad Don, rest in peace." Case closed.
@johnnyboyspero5470
@johnnyboyspero5470 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@maxwellhuey
@maxwellhuey 2 жыл бұрын
If he only got to see how Michael ruined the family afterwards 😂😂
@Prone-Ski_BX
@Prone-Ski_BX 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, if your father says you suck as a Don, case close.
@maxwellhuey
@maxwellhuey 2 жыл бұрын
Sonny had Tom Hagen, Vito had Genco...
@maxwellhuey
@maxwellhuey 2 жыл бұрын
He says as he fires him 🤦🏾‍♂️🤣🤣 if Tom was really good enough why was he given the Carlo treatment? Why the secret meetings behind his back? You don't have to be told outright that you're not good enough for that to be a fact Sonny and Luca Brasi handled worse situations even before Tom was Consiglierie
@davoz9773
@davoz9773 2 жыл бұрын
Sonny was hot Tempered for sure however everyone seems to ignore the guilt he felt about Connie situation. He is the one who recruited Carlo, he’s the one whom introduced him to his family, and eventually Connie. In the book, it’s described that he felt remorseful and since Vito had taught him that nothing was more important than family, he felt that the burden to protect Connie was on him. Moreover it seems in the book that Michael just like his father became indifferent toward Connie after Sonny’s murder. She knew yet she stayed with her husband and even went mad after Carlo was whacked. She had become somewhat of a burden as Tom described her. For all his faults, he was only trying to do right by his sister but in war he was perfect, almost too comfortable.
@davidparadis490
@davidparadis490 2 жыл бұрын
In the mafia, most Dons were like Sonny, and not Michael...most were just street level thugs who worked their way to the top with brute force.
@rahanmiah9428
@rahanmiah9428 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. I prefer sonny over michael
@theresachiorazzi4571
@theresachiorazzi4571 Жыл бұрын
They both mean business. Two very good actors. They fit their parts perfectly.
@NJGhost34
@NJGhost34 2 жыл бұрын
I think Sonny was more respected. Michael was more feared.
@fightsforrights9744
@fightsforrights9744 2 жыл бұрын
Right i agree.
@San-oe1xv
@San-oe1xv 2 жыл бұрын
So Sonny was better
@maxwellhuey
@maxwellhuey 2 жыл бұрын
@@San-oe1xv Sonny was a "Don"... Michael was a business man pretending to be a don...which is why once he is left in charge, the Family collapses....No one feared or respected him which is why people could turn against him, or talk crap to his face...No one would have tried that with Vito or Sonny
@phoggknight6714
@phoggknight6714 2 жыл бұрын
@@maxwellhuey Much of Michael's success came from getting his enemies as well as members of his own family to underestimate him. He used their lack of fear and respect as a tactic.
@maxwellhuey
@maxwellhuey 2 жыл бұрын
@@phoggknight6714 Thats definitely true...thats how he got the jump on Carlo and Tessio...
@enamweaknopahknop9661
@enamweaknopahknop9661 2 жыл бұрын
Sonny has his dad’s heart and Michael has his dad’s brain. The Corleone Familia would be even greater if only both live and work together.
@ajadomonique
@ajadomonique Жыл бұрын
I would love an analysis on how Michael’s reign would’ve been different if Apollonia would’ve lived and Kate wasn’t in the picture
@tanjahorvatserbiaoldslavsh4685
@tanjahorvatserbiaoldslavsh4685 2 жыл бұрын
Michael has a much calmer temperament than Sony. Michael's decision-making period is longer ( slower ) than Sony's. Sony is like fireworks. Sony has a hasty temperament. Sony thinks briefly before making a decision.
@maxwellhuey
@maxwellhuey 2 жыл бұрын
Think about it, he may be rash with his decisions, but Sonny is better, he handled two assassination attempts on Don Vito's life without any impact to the Corleone empire... Michael had growing resentment towards him and he couldn't even tell...Even the murder of the police Captain wasnt fully thought out...all he did was shoot and run away... Don Vito would have died in the hospital if Ezio (the baker) hadn't shown up Michael would have died in Sicily if it wasnt for his wife (who wasn't even supposed to be there in the first place) ....Sure, he might be a bit smarter, but all of Michael's successes are due to mere luck.
@carlturner8863
@carlturner8863 2 жыл бұрын
@@maxwellhuey good point
@marquesjohnson6359
@marquesjohnson6359 2 жыл бұрын
I think Vito was right when he said Sonny was a bad don in the long run yes because he was too hot headed and impulsive I think he would've been a better consigleaire but he shouldn't be the one making final decisions he didn't have Vito's foresight to see the real threats or Michael's patience to carefully map out plans
@JGD714
@JGD714 2 жыл бұрын
Sonny consigliere? No. Underboss.
@marquesjohnson6359
@marquesjohnson6359 2 жыл бұрын
@@JGD714 that would work too i didn't say anybody had to take all of his advice though lol
@dcaseng
@dcaseng 2 жыл бұрын
Consigliere is actually a position for a strategist, and giving advice based on logic. Sonny was no pragmatist, and dealt with every issue by being violent, and being reactionary.
@FreddyTams
@FreddyTams 2 жыл бұрын
A better capo I think
@JGD714
@JGD714 2 жыл бұрын
@@FreddyTams Nah. He'd be too effective a capo and other capos would look up to him, making him underboss in all but name only.
@stickler6014
@stickler6014 2 жыл бұрын
Just imagine them side by side. My goodness that be one powerful family.
@TheCultureMafia
@TheCultureMafia 2 жыл бұрын
LITERALLY UNSTOPPABLE 🔥
@stickler6014
@stickler6014 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely.
@stickler6014
@stickler6014 2 жыл бұрын
Love the channel.
@AwakenedMan
@AwakenedMan 2 жыл бұрын
In a boxing match, sonny would win easily, as boxing promoters, Michael would win easily.
@richardmoores
@richardmoores 2 жыл бұрын
I know what you’re saying
@tytus9618
@tytus9618 2 жыл бұрын
If you wanna lose your money, bet on Sonny
@lenini056
@lenini056 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine a boxing match between Santino vs whoever Joe Pesci played in Goodfellas and Michael promoting the fight for his bro. Lol!!!
@LanMandragon1720
@LanMandragon1720 2 жыл бұрын
Basically Sonny was a better warrior/enforcer and Michael was a better general seems legit.
@daan_053
@daan_053 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this videos, one day you will get a million followers (I hope)!
@TheCultureMafia
@TheCultureMafia 2 жыл бұрын
We'll get there 💯
@hamdinger7145
@hamdinger7145 2 жыл бұрын
Sonny was very angry. Michael was more cunning.
@theALMIGHTY987
@theALMIGHTY987 2 жыл бұрын
Sonny was more respected in the position, they knew it was his next. Fredo wasn't the only one that thought Michael jumped the line for power. They viewed Sonny as a father figure.
@radicalross7700
@radicalross7700 2 жыл бұрын
It's interesting to note that in the immediate aftermath of the shooting of Vito, there was a lot of confusion and unanswered questions for Sonny before the Turk called. Who shot my father? Is he alive? Where's Tom? Where's Luca Brasi? Did Paulie act on his own when he left Pop unprotected or did Clemenza pull him? In the face of all this, Sonny didn't have anyone he could immediately lash out at, so he had to stay calm and think out his next move. When Sonny realized he didn't have the luxury of acting impulsively, he didn't regardless of how much he wanted to.
@rickyandreou
@rickyandreou 2 жыл бұрын
It certainly could be seen that Sonny was a bad Don based on the original film release but the deleted scenes & novel definitely showed that he was a very capable & cunning war time leader more than a hot head.
@jonathanaditya6211
@jonathanaditya6211 2 жыл бұрын
One vs one fight, Sonny would won. But if its a non pyshical strategic fight, Michael 100% won.
@splattt8088
@splattt8088 2 жыл бұрын
idk, Michael has military experience.
@la5081
@la5081 2 жыл бұрын
@@splattt8088 that cqc!
@jonathanaditya6211
@jonathanaditya6211 2 жыл бұрын
@@splattt8088 sonny was raised in the streets. If its a fist fight, i put my money on sony
@jeffreyseyfert9986
@jeffreyseyfert9986 2 жыл бұрын
One on one fight.. I would had to give that to Micheal but cause of his military training. Before Michael gone in the Military hand down Sonny all the Time . For the age for having a hotter temper
@kapoon5400
@kapoon5400 2 жыл бұрын
wasn’t mike a war hero in the movie? not sure about the book. Michael fought and killed in Vietnam
@pamelamays4186
@pamelamays4186 2 жыл бұрын
Let us not forget Connie. In Godfather 3, she proved herself to be as cunning and ruthless as her big brothers. Even Michael was a little bit afraid of her, "Maybe they should fear you!" Connie understood the family business more than anyone. And she wasn't afraid to defy Michael. Behind her brother's back she allowed Kay to come over and visit the children. Did Michael reprimand Connie for disobeying his "No Kay in my house" rule? Michael let it slide. Perhaps he secretly respected Connie for her defiant boldness. He wasn't like, "Connie, you're my baby sister and I love you, but don't ever defy me again, ever!"
@mattk3654
@mattk3654 4 ай бұрын
He didn't punish Connie because she was a woman. Otherwise she'd be just as dead as Sonny and Fredo. I believe that, no matter what your argument may be....probably. You may come up with something I never thought of and if that's the case, I respect you and your forethought.
@gregrones9113
@gregrones9113 Жыл бұрын
Likely, Sonny was a better war-time Don initially. In the short run, he would have been formidable. He knew the organization, had respect, and was feared. He knew when to defend and when- not to mention how- to go to the mattresses. Michael was shrewder and more cerebral, but it took him time to gain respect. Michael plans and then kills Sollozzo and McCluskey, not because it consolidates power, but instead buys time for his father to recover and once again head the family. Sonny was prepared to lead from the start. Tessio defects because Michael didn't show all his cards. In fact, Michael may have been playing possum, anticipating it was better to lure out future threats as opposed to showing initial force and getting unexpectedly garroted. Michael was both a better wartime and peacetime Don (Sonny cannot touch Michael in peacetime), but over a protracted period of time. In order to succeed, Sonny would have had to have an overwhelming lethal strike early in any war. Sonny winds up exceeding expectations initially and Michael prompts moves against himself by looking weak, but ultimately proves competent with contingency plans.
@SammyPro820
@SammyPro820 2 жыл бұрын
Michael was always steps ahead
@JoeSmith-dl9ok
@JoeSmith-dl9ok 2 жыл бұрын
Sonny wasn’t meant to be a Don. Too hot-headed. Easy to figure out-whack somebody he cares about and he’s gonna come running, which is why they knew all they had to do was have Carlo beat on Connie and then wait…
@westendlondon8545
@westendlondon8545 2 жыл бұрын
I might sound stupid, also I haven’t read the book for over 40 years, but somewhere in my memory I thought that the Carlo admission was just through fear & not true , only maybe 🇺🇸🇬🇧🇺🇸🇬🇧
@jayburdification
@jayburdification 2 жыл бұрын
Michael clearly wasn’t well respected until he forced the issue and he was underestimated at every major turn. He deserved more respect than Sonny, but Sonny garnered more respect by being likable and by having his feet firmly planted in the underworld.
@maxwellhuey
@maxwellhuey 2 жыл бұрын
Michael never even wanted the job in the first place and definitely weakened the family once he got out of the underworld
@xandercage8082
@xandercage8082 2 жыл бұрын
@@maxwellhuey Michael became a magnate the likes of which Vito could've only dreamed by cutting his way through Vegas, sewing up all the major competing hotels and casinos. Not to mention that pursuing the gaming industry also gave him access to the entertainment world. Roth saw what Michael was doing, which is why he decided that Michael had to go; he was becoming too big too fast. In Godfather 3 (although many people prefer not to acknowledge this installment as canon) Michael was depicted as being leagues above the other Dons in terms of wealth and status, however this was implied in part 2 as well, in the scene where Roth tried to incite jealousy during a meeting by giving Michael a majority share of his assets, which Michael later countered by mentioning the insurrection (the con-game Roth was attempting to perpetrate). Due to Michael's deft leadership and business choices, the Corleone family had perhaps the greatest chance of all the families of going completely legitimate.
@jamesmarshall6619
@jamesmarshall6619 2 жыл бұрын
Sonny is a guy you want in your family but you don't want him running your family. When there is a fight or war a guy like Sonny is important to have because you know he's with you but he's more of a tactician and not a strategist. Also, if you look at mafia history in the US the one thing you consistently see is hot heads don't last long and rarely rise to head a family and when they do they don't last long in charge. Most successful mob bosses, even ones with tempers, learn to contain their temper and are level headed. Considering the money at stake, the individuals involved, there were very few wars between families because the bosses of the families knew how costly they were and wanted to avoid them if they could. Sonny helps you win battles, he doesn't win wars and just as important won't win you peace.
@TheToonMonkey
@TheToonMonkey 2 жыл бұрын
I doubt Fredo would have betrayed Sonny, so I don't think the situation would have arisen.
@ualisigwe
@ualisigwe 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you totally....furthermore, fredo felt disrespected having micheal, his junior as the don, something he wouldn't have felt with sunny....
@undertakernumberone1
@undertakernumberone1 2 жыл бұрын
@@ualisigwe it wasn't only that. Fredo also felt disrespected because he was basically always at the side lines, never being TREATED with respect. Of course it's also that hte movies turned Fredo into a far more pathetic character than the novel, where he'd been a tough guy who happened to drop the ball during the attempt on Vito's life.
@conversacionesbaterapeuticas
@conversacionesbaterapeuticas 2 жыл бұрын
Every vito's son is an extension of an isolated aspect of his personality. Michael is the brain,but sometimes is too cold, Sonny is the strength, but hes too irrational, and Fredo has the biggest heart, but he isn't the smartest. Maybe Connie could had been the better of them, she had the most balance between those three aspects in her own personality, as she shows in the last movie of the franchise.
@geekay4703
@geekay4703 2 жыл бұрын
The one thing in Sonny's favor was he garnered instant respect from the people around him. They knew his flaws but the were overlooked perhaps from his charisma. Michael on the other hand was not received as easily. Maybe his youth or not having the gift of gab prevented his instant acceptance but all along his timeline there were people who should have been unwaveringly loyal betray him. He was constantly on the lookout and plugging holes in his airtight dam from the people who should have been closest to him.
@AriusBLK
@AriusBLK 2 жыл бұрын
Michael was a strategist Sonny was a Tactician
@captnemo3677
@captnemo3677 2 жыл бұрын
@Arius BLK 1st: Precisely.
@flintironstag2381
@flintironstag2381 2 жыл бұрын
Difference is, sonny let his emotions dictate his actions. Michael (and Vito) were cold and calculating.
@nagone11
@nagone11 2 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to add this too...Sonny having to kill Fredo....Fredo had fear of Sonny and respected him as the elder brother, he knew he had to take a backseat to Sonny. So that what happened to Michael would have never happened to Sonny given the same circumstances. But let's say for argument's sake..Sonny would have beat the living shit out of Fredo and then exiled him to the North Pole.
@MalaLlama
@MalaLlama 2 жыл бұрын
Every time i watch one of your videos i want to rewatch all the godfather movies... You're amazing! Ps Sonny was more respected then Michel before the baptism of fire... In am alternative universe if a Corleone civil war broke out... Sonny would have one because most the family didn't respect Michael enough
@TravelsChases
@TravelsChases 2 жыл бұрын
Yup , these videos are forcing me to do exactly that !!!! Thanks!!!!! 1 , 2 AND 3
@nyterpfan
@nyterpfan Жыл бұрын
Based on how Sonny is portrayed in the film I think he's a bad Don because of his temper. He reacts too emotionally--and that is a recipe for disaster when fighting ANY kind of battle. Shrewdness, cunning--the ability to see things from all angles--Michael absolutely blows Sonny out of the water in these characteristics. And these are the characteristics you need to come out on top and STAY on top!!
@tanjahorvatserbiaoldslavsh4685
@tanjahorvatserbiaoldslavsh4685 2 жыл бұрын
Sony is a very caring older brother. A very protective older brother.
@thomasseery7570
@thomasseery7570 2 жыл бұрын
Another fascinating video. It would have been interesting to see how Sonny would have gotten on as Don. Sonny would gain more respect solely due to his capabilities and temper.
@richardbrown8702
@richardbrown8702 2 жыл бұрын
If Santino just had a wartime consigliiere, a Sicillian, this wouldn't be an issue. His father had Genco, look who he had
@xinfu.legendrpg2857
@xinfu.legendrpg2857 2 жыл бұрын
You're right
@robertobriant3621
@robertobriant3621 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda makes me feel bad for Tom, but it is what it is
@zacqueeentertainment7336
@zacqueeentertainment7336 2 жыл бұрын
This went over a lot of peoples heads lol
@garymorris1856
@garymorris1856 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding narrative, very intriguing and very thorough. I enjoy watching your Godfather videos. Very thought provoking.
@fatmansatchel1017
@fatmansatchel1017 2 жыл бұрын
As always right on time. I love these video's 💯💯💯
@eddieschwab864
@eddieschwab864 2 жыл бұрын
They were probably both well-loved by those that liked them, but Sony's temper was far more visible and out in the open and a known element. Michael would sit and calculate for years waiting for the opportunity to act. Just look at the baptism of fire in pt 1 and the execution of Fabrizzio in the cut scenes for part 2. I would say that Michael had greater respect from those that liked him because he knew how to run things in peacetime, something Sonny likely did not know how to do by comparison, and was more likely to be unpredictable when he would strike. I mean he shot two guys in the middle of dinner one while he was eating delicious delicious veal and the other in mid-conversation. However there were a handful that were dismissive of Michael's capabilities and looked at him with contempt those that loved him loved him and those that disliked him looked at him as a joke. Sonny on the other hand went out the way he lived, in daring bravado...
@alexpayne5914
@alexpayne5914 2 жыл бұрын
This depends on the situation. If they just happened to be rivals, jockeying for their interests during a slow build toward war, of course Michael wins. But, Santino is proven in direct conflict. Michael is the Batman of the Godfather series, thinking of every contingency and carefully laying the groundwork to pounce at the appropriate time. He is patient and exacting. However, take away that "prep time", attack openly and directly, Michael doesn't get to use his greatest abilities. In an open warfare situation that breaks loose quickly, Santino has the advantage. He would not allow Michael the time or breathing room he needs to make and set his plans.
@ericb8241
@ericb8241 2 жыл бұрын
Lol. A street thug is better in ‘conflict’ than a marine trained for conflict/attacks? Get off those drugs.
@VolumedMusicMan
@VolumedMusicMan 2 жыл бұрын
Brute force and tact are a deadly combination. I wouldve like to have seen them work together!!!
@franklinwilson8573
@franklinwilson8573 Жыл бұрын
I Loved Sonny!!!! But That Temper,Was His, WEAKNESS!!!! IT DIRECTLY LED, TO HIS DEATH!!!!!!! THAT WAS A HEARTBREAKING, SCENE!!!!!!!
@NelsonStJames
@NelsonStJames 2 жыл бұрын
Watching this video again, I think too much emphasis is put on Michael's military training, because military training works well against enemies that also know military tactics, but if history has taught us anything, it's that the best military in the world can lose to a technically inferior one due to a number of factors.
@erroneouse1929
@erroneouse1929 Жыл бұрын
Yeah by use of tactics and terrain
@BlueSummers101
@BlueSummers101 2 жыл бұрын
@2:43 lol that sped up scene of Sonny beating on Carlo made it look like a Benny hill sketch XD
@Rubilamg
@Rubilamg 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent as always 👏🏻👏🏻
@floyd5688
@floyd5688 2 жыл бұрын
People were scared of Sonny, People feared Michael
@doomvictor3934
@doomvictor3934 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I always thought Sonny was too much of a Hothead but did not really look deep enough into his character. With that said, James Caan gave a wonderful performance in bringing Sonny to life onscreen.
@emmanuelrobles96
@emmanuelrobles96 2 жыл бұрын
great video
@shennarice5749
@shennarice5749 2 жыл бұрын
So glad I found this channel... I love anything “Godfather, Casino, Goodfellas, Scarface, The Sopranos... any thing pertaining to The Mafia, new sub is here😃
@Elena_Vyt
@Elena_Vyt 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video! Well the truth is that Vito knew his children. He was the smartest. No one was like him. So he knew who was capable to be Don. It's remarkable to say that when Sonny was a teenager, he said to his father that he knew he killed Don Fanucci. He saw him jumping the roof. So he was smart in the way that he understood how the street works. Also it's the only moment that he was demanding something for his father. It was like holding him so as to get into the business. His father didn't either wanted that future for Sonny but he did his favour so as to see how he would be. He managed to be close enough to his father but being hot headed wasn't a good characteristic. It is a good example actually that when you are in rush you don't take the best choices. He got very good people around him, could manage some things but he was aggressive. Not always good choices. And in these business the truth is that there is no space for mistakes. He wasn't so bad actually he found his father's trader, he's loyal but Michael was something else. Well all the people are not the same and the education you got is important thing, but in difficult times you see how you manage the situations. This is the life actually. You are capable in something but not in all things. In the part of respect, I think Sonny was more respectful because he had more followers and Clemenza. When he told him to kill his father's trader he did it. Michael when he was talking with Geary, he didn't take so much seriously Michael. So Michael classically saw him his power getting him into a trouble. That's my opinion. People are different in their own way. I can say the common the got was family. Sonny and Michael weren't as Vito🤣🤣 I also got shocked why Vito wasn't talking so much with Fredo. Las Vegas! We love them both. Michael was powerful in his own way and in the book says it was shocking how same with Vito was. And it's true. But Santino is special. Well he's hot headed and I really know how bad it is but he has something that makes him attractive. ❤ Next video Michael and Vincent, Sonny's son. Powerful. Thank you for the video!😊
@happybee7725
@happybee7725 2 жыл бұрын
Well Sonny wasnt as smart a don as Michael was. I dont think mike would fall for carlo’s bait. I dont think he would have reacted the same way sonny did. Mike would have sent men to do carlo or bring carlo to him.he wouldnt have went off on his own in a rage like sonny did.sonny was a blunt instrument which does have its uses but not as valuable an asset as mike’s intellect
@maxwellhuey
@maxwellhuey 2 жыл бұрын
Michael wouldn't have done a thing... No one liked him or respected him... Besides think about it...heat of the moment...Sonny wasn't foolish for acting like that...stupid...yes but not foolish. He thought his sister was going to be beaten to death...All he heard was her terrified sceams fom the other end of the line.... No one else knew what was happening, which is why Tom sent bodyguards, as an afterthought (like just make sure he doesn't get into too much trouble because he was known for flying off the handle at times but nothing too serious) ... To imply that Santino didn't think, although true would be a bit unfair because I'm sure any of us would definitely do the same if we were in his shoes (God forbid)
@maxwellhuey
@maxwellhuey 2 жыл бұрын
@Joel Johnson Thats definitely true...
@maxwellhuey
@maxwellhuey 2 жыл бұрын
@Joel Johnson Im not from the culture, but do you think Connie had a choice of leaving (considering the time period) also, I think Sonny also felt guilty about introducing Carlo to the family and Don Corleone explicitly telling him not to get involved...he wouldn’t have been able to help Connie other than beating Carlo, death was out of the question.... Michael was cleared to kill Carlo because at that point he was in charge and he was partly to blame for Sonny’s death so i guess its fair game.
@maxwellhuey
@maxwellhuey 2 жыл бұрын
@Joel Johnson I think of it in this way, if roles were reversed, Michael wouldn't have been able to do anything to Carlo as long as Don Vito was alive...Sonny was only in charge of the criminal part of the family, never on the personal (home) side... for him to kill Carlo wouldn’t have been tolerated. If he (Sonny) was left in charge like Michael was, theres no doubt Carlo would have been dead 😂😂...probably the same day the Don died
@carlturner8863
@carlturner8863 2 жыл бұрын
@@maxwellhuey partly to blame for Sonny's death LOL
@richardsanchez9190
@richardsanchez9190 2 жыл бұрын
Goddamit. I been watching tons of these videos and now I NEED to watch these again. I saw them as a kid with my dad and I didn't appreciate them since I was like 7. But now that i see the big picture i gotta watch them.
@welfareprick
@welfareprick 10 ай бұрын
Man, I do like when you explain all the trifle thing in this very movie series. Showing what stands behind every moment is the very kind act of you...
@vinnie245
@vinnie245 2 жыл бұрын
If he had Michael as the consigliere to keep his temper in check and to help strategise it could of worked. Hagen would of stayed on the legal side of the business.
@michaell874
@michaell874 2 жыл бұрын
Sonny flaunted a vulnerable weakness of impulse rage. Such guys do not last long in that life.
@JoeSmith-dl9ok
@JoeSmith-dl9ok 2 жыл бұрын
Tell that to all the fucking psychopaths who are still running the five families
@rouskeycarpel1436
@rouskeycarpel1436 2 жыл бұрын
@@JoeSmith-dl9ok The fact that the common public doesn’t even know who the head of the 5 families are shows that they move in silence.Especially since Gotti flaunting himself to the public was his downfall and a wound to the mob as a whole.
@LeJobastre1215
@LeJobastre1215 2 жыл бұрын
@@rouskeycarpel1436 half of the 5 families bosses are psychos nowadays
@DBates-nr4ec
@DBates-nr4ec 2 жыл бұрын
Fredo's "I'm smart" sound bite cracks me up every time 😂
@pianoman021
@pianoman021 2 жыл бұрын
Good videos. Wish you had personalities to go along with them, but I get what you’re going for.
@meatrocket1
@meatrocket1 2 жыл бұрын
Save it for the library
@thequietrevolution3404
@thequietrevolution3404 2 жыл бұрын
Before watching the video, I'm gonna make a few evaluations of Sonny Corleone's leadership just to see if these characteristics are mentioned. 1) He was instinctively correct about identifying future enemies. 2) He had a big problem taking advice from elders and peers. 3) He had a reputation for a temper which made him predictable...And thus vulnerable to anyone with a clever intellect. Prediction: *Michael would win hands down.* _Now on to the vid to see how well I did with my evaluations..._
@robertbusek30
@robertbusek30 Жыл бұрын
You did fine. The video never mentions how Sonny deals with his core advisors; he’s very rough with them, especially Tom.
@robertbendix4814
@robertbendix4814 8 ай бұрын
I think that Michael, with his training in war strategy, would've realized that Carlo battering Connie was a bait to lure him out onto the streets so Barzini's folks could take him out, so he wouldn't have fallen for that. This is because baits are a strategy used in war. I give the example in World War II of Italy offering to arbitrate peace talks between the United Kingdom and Germany. This was done with the intent to give Germany time to slaughter British soldiers in Dunkirk.
@mardosavage6426
@mardosavage6426 Жыл бұрын
Great video 👍👍💯💯You should do a video about (sonny Corleone vs Tony sopranos)
@clearspira
@clearspira 2 жыл бұрын
Sonny Corleone is to Micheal Corleone what Tony Montana is to Micheal Corleone. They both have great skill when it comes to killing, they both are violently protective of their sisters, they both have a nose for money when it comes to drug dealing. But both are also terrible leaders because they suffer from short term thinking. In Sonny's case it was to fight a war that he could not win, and in Tony's case it was not quitting whilst he was ahead.
@ledhernanadez2065
@ledhernanadez2065 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree because I really think Sonny had more brains than was led on, I agree what all the things you said bro but I do think Sonny was smarter than Tony Montana but a long mile. I really think if they work with each other Sonny and Michael they would’ve been so powerful that they was in touchable
@tanjahorvatserbiaoldslavsh4685
@tanjahorvatserbiaoldslavsh4685 2 жыл бұрын
Sony wouldn't throw Fredo to the fish. Fredo is his little younger brother.
@brianmcghee3597
@brianmcghee3597 2 жыл бұрын
Even if Fredo crossed Santino he would have not killed him. Santino truly cared for his family. Michael not so much. Tht goes back to Vito kindness for his family.
@tanjahorvatserbiaoldslavsh4685
@tanjahorvatserbiaoldslavsh4685 2 жыл бұрын
@@brianmcghee3597 Michael is a better father to adult kids than Vito. But. Sony is a better brother than Michael.
@tanjahorvatserbiaoldslavsh4685
@tanjahorvatserbiaoldslavsh4685 2 жыл бұрын
@@brianmcghee3597 Michael is the "youngest brother syndrome". He doesn't understand why Fredo is not smarter than him. He doesn't understand Fredo's jealousy.
@garyfrombrooklyn
@garyfrombrooklyn 2 жыл бұрын
Mike was a racketeer and Sonny was a gangster. I think it was mentioned already the only one left would be Mike against his father, if that scenario played out. As for respect, that’s a tricky one as Mike and Sonny moved in different circles. The people Sonny dealt with respected him, I wonder if all the pezzonovante Mike dealt with tolerated or respected him.
@danielharnden516
@danielharnden516 2 жыл бұрын
They may not have like Mike but they feared him.
@keithharper1470
@keithharper1470 2 жыл бұрын
Michael was actually both he got his hands dirty when his own family thought it was impossible,he ordered hits, he made money and believed in omerta.
@garyfrombrooklyn
@garyfrombrooklyn 2 жыл бұрын
@@keithharper1470 I should not have made it absolute. Let’s say this 80% 20% Mike is 80% racketeer and Sonny is 80% gangster. Mike did put in the work but only enough to make his bones, Sonny was more hands on (Carlo 😆)
@maxwellhuey
@maxwellhuey 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielharnden516 No noe feared Mike, they feared the Corleone family (due to Sonny and Vito, and their hard work) once that wore off, no one even cared about him
@carlturner8863
@carlturner8863 2 жыл бұрын
@@maxwellhuey some of your comments are wise others I wonder if you have watched the same films as the rest of us!!!
@HaIsKuL
@HaIsKuL 2 жыл бұрын
Sonny is reactionary. You can't lead when you're always dictated by the situation.
@eprjct
@eprjct Жыл бұрын
Sonny is actually a great Don. Vito knew about his bread and butter very well. His charisma, his leadership, his cunning all makes him a great Don to follow when things are moving forward. No one questions his position when he says anything, whereas everyone questions Michaels' position when he makes a statement. However, Vito knows about his shortcomings too well. He lets his guard off too often and you can't always win.
@NelsonStJames
@NelsonStJames 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video and analysis, that just makes me want to watch the film again this Labor Day. I'm pretty sure if Vito was alive, he would also conclude that Michael wasn't necessarily a good Don either, he was simply bad in other ways. Sonny may have been a bad Don, but the men under him would follow him to hell and back and it wouldn't be because they only feared him, but respected him as well, because he didn't send men out needlessly to their death, but would be there right along side them.
@undertakernumberone1
@undertakernumberone1 2 жыл бұрын
basically, you'd want Michael to plan the ruthlessely efficient actions, and you'd want Sonny to lead them.
@NelsonStJames
@NelsonStJames 2 жыл бұрын
@@undertakernumberone1 That would be the perfect scenario.
@undertakernumberone1
@undertakernumberone1 2 жыл бұрын
@@NelsonStJames To go a bit further: You'd want Tom to run the day to day business, Michael to plan major strikes, Sonny to lead them (and probably to also be abit of the face of the stuff. He's charismatic), and Fredo you'd actually want to keep some of the humanity of Vito. Each of hte (male, and even adopted) children has a bit of Vito, but without the rest to balance it out.
@onlyalisaawilliams
@onlyalisaawilliams 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent commentary….. ……..Video Suggestion ,“Would Tom Hagen be a great Don”. Could he be ruthless enough to pull it off, because We know Michael, Sonny, and Vito was .
@chuckmartin935
@chuckmartin935 2 жыл бұрын
!!!! awesome study in leadership under conditions of radical uncertainty & chaos. A mix of machiavelli's prince & the 48 laws of power.
@johnjacobjingleheimerschmi6473
@johnjacobjingleheimerschmi6473 2 жыл бұрын
If Sonny was still alive, Fredo wouldn't even dare to associate himself with Hyman Roth.
@TimberwolfC14
@TimberwolfC14 2 жыл бұрын
Sonny could get too emotional and allowed those emotions to sometimes lead him astray. Michael on the other hand (Maybe because of his prior military history) always gave the impression of a cold analytical outlook. So out of the two it would be Michael each and every time.
@shadeofshattered3
@shadeofshattered3 2 жыл бұрын
If you saw the movie you already know Micheal won
@Lolabelle59
@Lolabelle59 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this one, too. Could you do one in which you contrast Michael with Barzini? Thank you.
@jahmd8377
@jahmd8377 2 жыл бұрын
Got damn I love this channel!!
@davidradford4141
@davidradford4141 2 жыл бұрын
Hyman Roth would have completely outclassed Sonny, it took a strategic long term thinker like Michael to take him out- Sonny was basically a jumped-up street brawler. He was someone who'd you'd certainly want on your side in a straight-up fight, but inside the murky machinations of The Mafia, he was too much of a linear thinker- he was the type who would win the battle, but lose the war.
@filb
@filb 2 жыл бұрын
Michael definitely. The fact he outlived everyone and his organization was always the strongest during his reign shows that he was definitely the best Don. Unfortunately for him, it came with a price, his family. Sonny would've lost a few battles if he was alive after Don Vito's passing. I don't think the organization would've been the strongest with him at the helm. The fact that Barzini outsmarted him is proof enough....Michael on the other hand fooled Barzini and the other families.
@garyb2392
@garyb2392 2 жыл бұрын
Discipline/impulse control is the biggest difference between them, in my opinion. That said, I agree with all of your awesome points.
@djsdesignsandcustoms4779
@djsdesignsandcustoms4779 2 жыл бұрын
Michael is a well respected mob boss through out the movie .He knew how to run an empire and expand it logically
@Harrison11106
@Harrison11106 Жыл бұрын
I think Sonny could have been a good Don. At the barest minimum he was a good field general. If Sonny had a weakness was that he was quick to anger & impulsive, the very things that ultimately got him killed. If Sonny had lived & been able to control those weaknesses, he could have been the Don instead of Michael.
@aaronrowell6943
@aaronrowell6943 2 жыл бұрын
In a matter of a war, I would give it to Sonny. Really, imagine if Sonny lived, and him and Michael form a Dream team somehow. I know he doesn't respect Michael, but that's a testament to how Michael comes out of nowhere. If Sonny is a good judge of character in terms of being a criminal, surely he could see that Michael was an asset over someone like Fredo. Sonny is a little too hands on compared to the others personally going to things like beating up Carlo as opposed to sending one of his many soldiers to do so. However, he did seem to strike fear in people. Like other people are pointing out, Fredo would be afraid to betray Sonny, and they show his wrath is something that other people are afraid of. He likely could keep the Capos and such in line as we see in stuff like the Sopranos its good to have someone in the pecking order the other mobsters fear.
@neerajjh1233
@neerajjh1233 2 жыл бұрын
He respects Michael in novel, he even said that Michael was the toughest of all even tougher than his father.
@aaronrowell6943
@aaronrowell6943 2 жыл бұрын
@@neerajjh1233 I haven't read the book but interesting. Also it's funny that Sonny seems to respect Michaels tactical mind when he realizes that military bro is dead serious, even going along with plan for Michael do do the double hit and Michael figures out a way around the trap of killing a cop. Sonny gets what he wants and so does Michael
@sonnysantana5454
@sonnysantana5454 Жыл бұрын
Sonny actually was able to see the long big picture of getting in on the drug game and was a very capable war lord and could connect with others
@Al_NERi
@Al_NERi 7 ай бұрын
Excellent recap. Exactly what I would expect at CULTURE MAFIA. I would like to suggest a comprehensive documentary about the works and roles of late character actor Joe Spinnel on culture mafia. He was so central to the amazing baptism/ rub out sequence. Also his amazing reprisal in The Godfather Part Two, embarrassing the U.S. Senate before the world lol. Only Joe Spinnel could've pulled it off.
@tonyscott658
@tonyscott658 2 жыл бұрын
Michael was more respected his dad would have been proud of him had he lived to see the good job his son did for the family
@swapsplat
@swapsplat 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video about what Michael did in the war? He's called a "war hero" several times. What did he do to distinguish himself?
@maxwellhuey
@maxwellhuey 2 жыл бұрын
He got shot in battle and his dad (Don Vito) paid for him to be discharged…it wasn’t that deep…
@swapsplat
@swapsplat 2 жыл бұрын
@@maxwellhuey seems pretty low key for other people to know that he was a 'war hero."
@maxwellhuey
@maxwellhuey 2 жыл бұрын
@@swapsplat Its kind of based on real life... we see the same in real life (alot of people get by by being related to a rich/successful person ) eg. Jaden Smith or Chet Hanks or even Joe Biden's son....or the biggest example is The Royal Family... No one can really justify why they deserve to be put on a pedestal but they're all wealthy and famous over ordinary people It doesn’t make it right but its just facts of the world I guess...
@sabrinagrant8003
@sabrinagrant8003 2 жыл бұрын
Well analyzed🤔
@thomasa8814
@thomasa8814 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, when it comes to the action kid, theres no one better.
@silentbob7984
@silentbob7984 2 жыл бұрын
Sonny was too impulsive, too quick to use his fists instead of his mind. You could always see what Sonny was thinking by the look on his face.
@i1mz
@i1mz 2 жыл бұрын
Let me start with the fact that I love all your videos. However, I disagree that Sonny is more brutal than Michael. Michael’s brutality was never through physical intimidation or the threat of physicality, it was cerebral. It was the fear of not knowing what lengths he would scale to get to you. In that sense, Sonny was predictable which was proven by the machinations surrounding his eventual and inevitable murder. Of all the brothers Michael was the most Machiavellian, which is why he had longevity albeit at an insurmountable cost.
@eprjct
@eprjct Жыл бұрын
I think he wants to give Sonny some credits so the fight can look more even. Michael is the clear winner in terms of manipulating fear. Al Pacino said it in his interview, he find that the extreme form of fear is settle and slow and not fast and harsh. This is why before he killed Carlo, he was extremely calm and simply saying that it "insults his intelligence."
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