Was the World Cup PREDETERMINED for Lionel Messi?! 😳 ESPN FC rips Louis van Gaal

[@ArthurMorganFTW_RDR]

Van gal: we’d be at advantage if the game went to penalties also Van gal after losing on penalties: it’s premeditated 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@el.aye.bee.4477]

Great point. I forgot about that.

[@ArthurMorganFTW_RDR]

@@el.aye.bee.4477 for real man Even Dutch goalie said that he’ll save Messi’s penalties. Van gal just being a sore loser

[@billbit9988]

i remember that 😂😁

[@el.aye.bee.4477]

@@ArthurMorganFTW_RDR pure facts, you're doing an excellent job jogging my memory. The first thing I said to myself was, "well, if van Gaal is going to say some dumb shyte like that, he's essentially admitting that his team was complicit to the whole thing, too."

[@kuyt20]

LOL! Even his own defender VVD is disagreeing with him. Van Gaal is nuts.

[@Miiltoo97]

“the weird old uncle who says weird things”. We all have Van Gaals in our lives 😂… I feel sorry for him that such a once great coach would stoop so low like vindictive overly emotional hateful fans.

[@manuelnonso5575]

😂😂😂

[@Howardm-fy8ir]

It is possible. Am sure you're familiar with the concept of match fixing...

[@Howardm-fy8ir]

It's not far-fetched...

[@Livefastnoww]

@@Howardm-fy8iryou need the full 32 team to play alone. Very good and smart 😂

[@contracus2249]

VARgentina entered in the field with 12 players (11+referee) and with a 1-0 lead on the scoreboard (penalty guaranteed). Even the crook Infantino, who is Swiss and should be impartial, was "rooting" for the Argentine team, as well as stupid narrators and stupid fanboy commentators (coincidence or collective hysteria?). The only people who are blinded by the hype don't realize this.

[@kristianfjordolesen8918]

I think Van Gaal is just so confused and baffled about how Messi pulled off that pass against his side, that he started going insane.

[@migmig8368]

Anybody that says that the World Cup is rigged never have an argument and are just frustrated bitter souls that can’t accept Argentina being the best team in that tournament.

[@kelvinquartey6888]

😂

[@tafsibhuiyan8730]

@@migmig8368 fr. They act as if without penalties, Argentina would’ve lost to France and/or Croatia (two of the strongest teams in the 2022 WC that could’ve rivaled Argentina) 😂

[@caspaclinton6655]

​@@tafsibhuiyan8730FYI France had 2 penalties in that game. So did you watch the match. If you did you'll see that Argentina outplayed France for about 78 mind of the first half

[@tafsibhuiyan8730]

@@caspaclinton6655 bro that’s literally the point of my comment. France needed penalties to keep up with Argentina and make their comeback 💀

[@natureheals20]

Van Gaal lost to Argentina 2 times in 2 World Cups, and lost his job 2 times. His frustration is understandable 😅😅

[@T1kr3b3u]

Van Gaal deserves to get the "Que miras bobo" award

[@el.aye.bee.4477]

@@T1kr3b3u 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@geomatt911]

@@T1kr3b3u lol

[@mikdan9573]

​@@T1kr3b3u😂😂😂😂

[@vasilispatsalidis5683]

Van Gaal is thick.

[@enjiema5319]

i am sure, the night before holland-argentina match, messi and molina practiced that pass with Blind, VVD, Ake, and the entire Holland backline, for 100 times, at least. Such dedication 👏🏻.

[@JB-nj2wr]

😂

[@johnbyron1077]

No, no, no, Ake, you didn't spread your legs enough for Leo to pass the ball through. Take 73, let's take it from the top!

[@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings]

Messi - poor CL,joins Qatar Club,wins Qatar WC Messi - Ballon Do'r over Haaland Conspiracy Theory to call it Corruption?🤔

[@MrZeusman]

​@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings Your stupidity stinks!!

[@rayano3816]

@@johnbyron1077😂 the sad thing is ronaldo fans probably think this is true

[@MrKaravaj]

Honestly I dont get this hate for Messi. Guy played insanely great (look besides the penalties) - and scoring penalties at worlds biggest stage is not easy (as Evra said). Glad van Dijk and many dutch players and Koeman dont agree with this. Imagine if Messi lost, would get trolled. Not he wins it, and it was rigged? Doesnt work like that. Yes controversies is a part of the football world (happenes not only to Argentina, even Netherlands who got extra minutes, France 2 penalties etc) - my point is - it happened on many previous tournaments and will happen again. Overall - Argentina were the strongest in the wc 2022

[@canalphi2673]

Van gaal was humiliated by Messi and there is a lot of Ronaldo (who is one of the greatest ever just to be clear talking about some and not all his fans) fans that let their brain fall of their head and started saying word cup was fixed or something like that because Messi won, i think saying that there is a conspiracy theory to favour Messi is one of the worst arguments to defend ronaldo´s poor performance at the world cup, i´ve seen some Messi fans saying Madrid champions was fixed especialy at that Juve penalty in the last minute and sending Buffon off but not at this level

[@kssam8888]

Zlatan and other agrees with van Gaal

[@danielnhyirabamusic]

Well you are applauding Messi for taken penalties well but you will rip Cr7 and call him names if those numerous penalties were offered to Cr7. Hypocrite.

[@zakariadjouzi660]

​@@kssam8888no hé doesn't and Never did

[@TruthRighteousnessSalvation]

*GEMATRIA EFFECT SPORTS 👀

[@techniciansinc6048]

Lol. Messi make things look so easy to the point where intelligent people start saying the games are fixed. What a legend 😂

[@kssam8888]

Even zlatan and other player's also said that you can't deny the truth and it's not bcz of Messi it's bcz of the referees support and penalties

[@bernaski1584]

@@kssam8888stop making fake facts zlatan never said that

[@gameon...1636]

​@@bernaski1584there is no fake facts but fake quotes.

[@kssam8888]

​@@bernaski1584 I literally have a video.

[@madrileyZA]

​@@kssam8888Zlatan never said it was fixed, he said ot was destined.

[@CaspianKhazar]

Messi's defense splitting pass to Molina is impossible to fix....

[@TruthRighteousnessSalvation]

Impossible? GEMATRIA EFFECT SPORTS 👀

[@camphill4life70]

Holland choked on penalties and Van Gaal can't accept that the squad he managed choked.

[@ntkhoa2227]

they rigged the WC for Messi by having Argentina lose their opening game, thereby jeopardising their entire campaign early they rigged the WC for Messi by (somehow) having him score that banger against Mexico to keep his team alive they rigged the WC for Messi by (somehow) having him score that banger against Australia and having Emi make that crucial save they rigged the WC for Messi by (somehow) having him deliver that insane no-look assist for Molina and having 2 Dutch players bottle their penalties they rigged the WC for Messi by (somehow) having him turn Gvardiol inside out to deliver that insane assist for Alvarez they rigged the WC for Messi by giving France 2 penalties while Argentina was having a comfortable 2-0 lead and was seemingly cruising their way to victory (and didn't bother to check VAR for a France handball before the second penalty), and having Koman and Tchouameni suck at penalties they rigged the WC for Messi by making all other teams like Spain, Germany, Belgium, Brazil, Portugal, England suck, espcially benching Ronaldo so he couldn't compete with Messi in his final WC the person who wrote the script for this whole thing deserve a freaking Oscar, don't they?

[@wgjung1]

I think that person who wrote that is too powerful so we should be afraid.

[@TruthRighteousnessSalvation]

Yep. GEMATRIA EFFECT SPORTS 👀

[@trevortamboline279]

Brilliant

[@IM_QUIT_NOW]

you also need world class actors to pull off all those stunts too.

[@elche1976]

One correction... Portugal played better when Ronaldo wasn't playing.

[@skeptic9991]

I've been watching this show for a long time, and I'm still amazed at how intelligent, rational, and eloquent Alejandro is. It's very rare to see a football player with such a strong mastery of logic and critical thinking. He couldn't have said it any better. Fanatics are illogical and irrational people. When someone like Van Gaal does this, all they are doing is further legitimizing the dumb trolls online.

[@emiroviski]

Have those people who make those claims watched the messi’s highlights of the tournament? The man literally was the best player of the tournament from start to finish.

[@Robert-wx8lq]

No we watched the games, he wasn’t player of the tournament. Dibu Martinez was better than Messi. Messi relied on penalties. Even Alvarez had more non penalty goals than Messi. Messi played decent but nowhere near best player. You act like this was 2012-2015 Messi Stop watching highlights and watch the games casual

[@sa2520]

​@@Robert-wx8lqthe irony of this comment😂😂

[@danielmann316]

​@@Robert-wx8lqlol who was the better player bro

[@el.aye.bee.4477]

@@Robert-wx8lq sftu! 🤡. This has nothing to do with whether he was 2012 - 2015 Messi or how many goals he scored in the run of play. This has to do with his leadership and his carrying the team. Next thing that's gonna come out of your stoopit little pie hole is that Argentina would have won the tournament without him.

[@ianlanford6922]

@@Robert-wx8lq stop watching cr7 matches. it deluded your mind.

[@AndresAndrade.]

Everyone's missing the fact that Argentina had only one penalty in the final game... France had two penalties

[@alexanderhansen6134]

And looked like Messi had a Penalty subscription throughout the World Cup.

[@mrinal12354]

And France had two.

[@danielmann316]

​@@alexanderhansen6134Maradona won the world cup with his hand. There's another one for you brainless fans to argue about

[@gerardoa9179]

So? Argentina had like 5 in all the WC

[@el.aye.bee.4477]

@@alexanderhansen6134🤡 was Messi the one diving and claiming the penalties like cristiano ronaldo built his career on or was he just the one taking the penalties? Sftu! 🤡

[@afolabitoye4393]

So, the Netherlands' defeat to Argentina was also scripted?

[@Mr.Banter]

The moment that Messi signed for Qatar PSG, Argentina was going to benefit. There is no way that France could play so badly. It looked like they weren't even trying in the first half. All of a sudden, the game was tied, and then game went to penalties. Now it seems, Qater hosted and orchestrated the greatest final were both Qater owned PSG Stars at center stage in the most epic final. If the World Cup had not been held there, clearly there would been a different outcome. Corruption at its finest.

[@JJN631]

​@@Mr.Banterok

[@thedustthatsettlesj9231]

That doesn't answer the op. Van gaal says it's rigged while he was a manager in that tournament and lost to said man and said team. So either it wasn't rigged or he was in on it. If it's the latter him and his entire team were also in on it and are guilty. His team should be pissed he said this.

[@Stirlingshirecastle]

​@@Mr.Banter Check in at your nearest psychiatric hospital as soon as possible. Your delusions are of a higher scale.

[@sufferersl]

​@@Mr.Banter cry more

[@chandralakandri6757]

If this is true, it also involves Van Gaal. Was the Netherlands losing on penalties included in the script? Did FIFA say that France should not score a penalty?

[@tafsibhuiyan8730]

And Van Gaal said if it goes to penalties, the Netherlands have a chance and yet they lose so saying it’s “rigged” or whatever is just BS 😂

[@ricomajestic]

"They put a little motor in the ball and infantino manipulated the shots" - Van Gaal!

[@dr.rickbooty]

Doesn't mean it involves Van Gaal or even Argentina. Referee can influence match by giving gift penalty.

[@ntkhoa2227]

@@dr.rickbooty and ref can make 2 Dutch players miss their penalties, amazing

[@dr.rickbooty]

@@ntkhoa2227 Just because a team is favored doesn't mean they will win. It just means referee will do things to help their chances. Argentina is best penalty team, so the goal is to just get them to at least penalties. Even with referee gifting them leads, Argentina still struggle to keep it. That is not sign of true champion.

[@alancawfield6549]

They really did a genius job rigging it for Messi, letting 2 of Argentina's games go to penalty shoot-outs was a master stroke , it really put people off the scent that it was rigged in his favour,, so that only Louis Van Gaal is intelligent enough to see it was rigged in Argentina's favour.

[@googooboox]

Van Gaal is a sour worm with brains.

[@bas6628]

LOL

[@JB-nj2wr]

😂

[@kssam8888]

And what about Messi last goal in final? The whole bench ran into the pitch when he scored a goal 😂😂 it was never a goal.

[@dr.rickbooty]

Wasn't that good because anyone not brainwashed by Messi worship can see it.

[@BK101BK]

France got 2 penalties in their favor in the final and somehow brain dead people think it was rigged for Argentina lol

[@TruthRighteousnessSalvation]

🤓GEMATRIA EFFECT SPORTS 👀

[@lyndxnjoel6917]

@@TruthRighteousnessSalvation but he spitting though

[@elche1976]

If Van Gaal doesn't like the penalties, maybe teach defenders not to commit fouls in the box. It's not the offenses fault for the defense committing penalties. Argentina committed 2 in the final. Stupid plays. Not premeditated.

[@ezrabasil654]

Argentina received most penalties in the world cup competition

[@elche1976]

@ezrabasil654 they got fouled in the box poor defenses. Gotcha. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean the ref should shouldn't call fouls. Each and every one was confirmed by VAR. Is it because teams would rather foul and take a penalty rather than get posterized? Cry more about how Argentina got fouled the most in the box? It's a good look.

[@ricomajestic]

"They put a little motor in the ball and Infantino manipulated the shots by radio control" - Van Gaal!

[@ramirodeanda4908]

It's possible bro there is a chip inside that's how they detect when the ball crosses the goal line so very possible I'tm my opinion

[@Adaora_Goodlife]

@@ramirodeanda4908you sound silly

[@tafsibhuiyan8730]

If France won, people would’ve said “it was rigged for France to win” cuz remember France also had 2 penalties in the final. Like there’s just no point in arguing with these people smh

[@dnn32]

I agree with you but they have been many cheatings in WC history. Platini confirmed france cheated to win the WC in 98 for example. He was part of the organizational comitee and was the one who drew the group stage. They wanted to play brazil in the final and won their 1st title against the great brazil of ronaldo. Another example, WC 66 was basically a gift set up by fifa to England bc they didn't want pele to win that year in the fear of making football uninteresting for Europeans and to the world. Players who have competed at that time confirmed it in interviews. So if fifa wants absolutely a particular country to win, that country will win it😂😂😂.

[@contracus2249]

The owners of Qatar bought PSG and then the right to host a World Cup. After a lot of money, thousands of lives lost and several refereeing errors, the final of the tournament is decided between two selections whose main players "coincidentally" belong to... PSG. Five (5) stolen penalties for Argentina, almost all when the game was still tied (Saudi Arabia, Poland, Netherlands, Croatia and France). Lionel Messi, the FIFA protégé, scored 4 goals from penalties, all of them badly kicked, and 3 goals unmarked. When Neymar or Vini Jr. they start to dribble, then they are fouled. When the test-tube baby Messi starts scratching on the ball with his short legs, no one dares to touch the figurine. He put his hand on the ball, Maradona style, but did not receive a yellow card. He detracted from Weghorst and van Gaal, showing how false their supposed "modesty" is (they confuse lack of personality with humility). Another coincidence: Modric was a tiger against Brazil and a little bunny against Argentina. He entered the field just to ask for an autograph. Humiliating. But then he returned to play well against Morocco. That cup felt like match wrestling. FIFA is as fake as WWE. The Qatar Cup is the biggest case of sportswashing in history. It should be cancelled.

[@kwekusackey]

@@dnn32u talk rubbish

[@GinaSigillito]

There’s so much insanity in his statement that I’m glad Van Dijk and others shut it down. It sounds like Gaal’s had years of delusional statements when things don’t go his way. Everyone knows Maradona guided Argentina to the World Cup, from heaven 😊

[@dimitar297]

He's probably right. Covid taught us everything is a lie.

[@TruthRighteousnessSalvation]

GEMATRIA EFFECT SPORTS 👀

[@contracus2249]

Van Gaal is right. Van Dijk is afraid of FIFA. Argentina has NEVER won a cup honestly. 1978: Military Dictatorship 1986: The hand of "god" 2022: Arbitration (FIFA/Qatar Dictatorship)

[@JB-nj2wr]

This is how insane ronaldo fans sound when they say it’s rigged

[@TheCelticsAREboss]

It's true the WC was rigged. The ball used in all of Argentina's games was remote controlled. Kolo Muani didn't miss. His ball was misguided by someone with a remote controller.

[@JPayne95]

I wouldn't be surprised 😂

[@MpenduloNdwandwe]

That’s just stupid

[@okechukwuirokanjo8323]

😂😂😂😂

[@taxfraudster23]

@@victor-cc7uv it's obviously satire

[@habtamudehne8502]

You need to see the psychiatrist either you are arrogant or envy or mental illness

[@Mbizalalla21]

Where was the script when France got 2 penalties in the final ?

[@Youafool500]

The second pen they got should not have been given as well, they missed a hand ball from the French striker.

[@DevonHaigh-if5hk]

Yes even when Argentina was nearly gonna win

[@Mr.Banter]

The moment that Messi signed for Qatar PSG, Argentina was going to benefit. There is no way that France could play so badly. It looked like they weren't even trying in the first half. All of a sudden, the game was tied, and then game went to penalties. Now it seems, Qater hosted and orchestrated the greatest final were both Qater owned PSG Stars at center stage in the most epic final. If the World Cup had not been held there, clearly there would been a different outcome. Corruption at its finest.

[@tevildo45]

@ Mr.Banter sorry but that’s just idiotic you must have a very low iq, losers always have to have an excuse for their own stupidity incompetence it’s nothing new, the Croatians blamed the ref in 2018, the danish said it was rigged in the euros. The Italians moaned it was rigged in 2002, but the truth is they just weren’t good enough

[@think_fool]

​@@Mr.Banteryou need to see a doctor.... 😂

[@Validboy]

You can only "fix" something if both sides are in on it.. So Van Gaals own team would have to be throwing the game on purpose to make it a fix.. so someone should ask him if he's admitting to losing on purpose..

[@Jeffy2387]

No you can’t lol. Barcelona vs Chelsea 2009 is a great example of that. And now we know Barcelonas former games were rigged for sure, they leaked the payments made to the refs recently. Fifa is corrupt and it’s clear they helped Messi as much as possible to win the World Cup

[@CDmusic10]

​@@Jeffy2387I hope this is sarcastic.

[@gfer66]

@@Jeffy2387 What FIFA had to do with UEFA Champions League? Are you r3tarded?

[@Robert-wx8lq]

@@CDmusic10chelsea was def robbed in 2009. And Barcelona was making payments to refs for “information”. That’s why there was a whole hearing on it.

[@adeniyi5366]

@CDMusic10 no he is not. That dude is speaking from the limit of his mental capacity. He's not being sarcastic. He's being moronic. And it's not his fault.

[@non-kh7tm]

If it's fixed the referee wouldn't let equalizing when argentina is up to 2 goals. The referee will find a way to make argentina keep the opponent 2 to zero. Believe me.

[@Mr.Banter]

It's about putting a good show for Qater. Qatar PSG world cup will be known as as the world cup that Messi won the world cup in a epic game. That make a compelling story. Qater PSG has the biggest stars in the final. The world cup was rigged from the moment Qater became host.

[@TrustMeMore]

​@@Mr.Banterliterally only deluded penaldians truly believe all that nonsense lil bro 😂 enough

[@k13tron]

​@@Mr.Banter did you even watch the world cup? It was one of if not the best world cups people had seen. The teams played too good and the games were way too entertaining for it to be rigged. So if it was rigged that means that every team is in on it and they planned it all to go that way.

[@k13tron]

​@@Mr.Banter Its laughable I'm even arguing with people over if it was rigged or not. Bunch of delusional people who cant get sleep if they dont believe in baseless conspiracies.

[@RobotechLegos]

@@Mr.Bantertake your meds…then take your medicine

[@barry2924]

For a team that new they were guna win the World Cup they were very nervous against Mexico until Messi scored that wonder goal to settle things down

[@Robert-wx8lq]

Wonder goal 😂😂😂. That’s what we call goals from edge of the box now. Guess everyone scores wondergoals now

[@kuyt20]

@@Robert-wx8lq Edge of the box is 18 yards out. Messi's goal was about 22 yards out, sliding along the ground past a defender and a diving outstretched goalkeeper at the perfect bottom right corner of the goal against the run of play in a "must win" game with the score tied at 0-0. It was a wondergoal of sorts, given just how vital it was.

[@Robert-wx8lq]

@@kuyt20 it was a vital and clutch goal not wonder goal. Wondergoal is Messi running from the half way line and scoring

[@kuyt20]

@@Robert-wx8lq Nah. It was both clutch and wondergoal. Wonder goals don't need to all be long range cannons or solo runs, you know.

[@Robert-wx8lq]

@@kuyt20 lampard scoring from the edge of the field is a wonder goal. Messi scoring from 22yrds is a clutch goal not wonder goal. That’s like saying robben’s finesse goals everytime he cut inside were wondergoals

[@no.1spectator39]

10 minutes Injury time & he say its rigged lol laughable

[@pieslice]

My opinion. Argentina was a close knit team. Messi’s time at PSG allowed him to perfect his assisting and field reading abilities for the World Cup. He’s just make it look so effortless that it leaves people in disbelief. Enjoy the moment. Same with Ronaldo, enjoy these guys. What they have done won’t be done for a long time.

[@zak__21]

Netherlands played Argentina and lost. Is he saying Netherlands were involved in match fixing?

[@boborees]

LVG is still watching that Messi assists trying to figure out how that ball reached Molina.

[@ikuep]

Van Gaal is only making Netherlands look bad here. He is supposed to represent his country with dignity and honor, but he just threw that out the window in favor of his feelings.

[@yammmm9112]

Even the French coach of the national team at the time said that it was absolutely ridiculous that people would think and say those things about Argentina’s win and Messi’s performance. He said the only questionable penalty given was against Poland and even that one wasn’t even converted by Messi bc the keeper saved it. Argentina wasn’t even the country with most penalties given and wasn’t even the team with the most fouls or cards….

[@babayagaX9000]

Van Gaal is just sour bc of what Messi said to him on sideline. Plus he’s had a long beef with Argentine players.

[@bensanfernandes6023]

Every football lover knew that this world Cup was Messi's. ❤

[@jftt42]

And how would they know that? These kinds of nonsensical statements are giving legs to the conspiracy theorists. It was his tournament because he made it his tournament by playing some of his best football and having a great supporting cast. I hoped he would win it but I didn't "know." Claiming to have known is the height of arrogance.

[@ishrixxbugatti4000]

Because they knew if he didnt win a world cup he wouldnt be on that goat list.theres ways they can munipilate the ball with a chip . He was a goat in hes earlier days but not in the last couple of years .

[@ricomajestic]

Not really!

[@ricomajestic]

@@ishrixxbugatti4000 LOL!

[@kypham6292]

@@ishrixxbugatti4000at least make some sense

[@sellingoptions6912]

Predetermined from God!

[@F.A-TUBE]

ESPN and the media should give CR7 more credit , Last year he scored 1 goal in 26 matches played with 14 full matches played and it was a penalty and won Bench D'Or . Season before that he scored 18 goals against Norwich City and Brentford with 0 goals 0 assists 0 chances created against Liverpool or Man city and won Garbage D'Or and he also assaulted a child with disability and won Criminal D'Or . Now he is busy blaming every teammate every coach from every club and country for his failure and won Failure D'Or as a penaldo fan my only option is to call everything "Rigged" with 0 legal documents and fake theories to create my own happiness .

[@enohpius2212]

Ale, you've been my best analyst on ESPN show. Always precised and hitting the nail on the head. Well done Shaka!

[@MrMMAJER]

He's always been known as a grumpy old man, and he certainly wants to be remembered as one.

[@sadenb]

If Van Gaal is to be believed, does that mean his own team Netherlands fixed the match? in which case, he should be prosecuted since he was the manager of Netherlands

[@kuyt20]

Exactly. It seems like he's not exactly the brightest up top when it comes to things outside of managing a football team.

[@markomeker7789]

You 2 are not the brightest up top:) He ment the amount of penalties obviously Argentina was given throughout the tournament in order to gain advantage in the games. You can not rigg every aspect of the game. Just some, like shady ref calls. That's enough to give you an advantage. You still obviously have to execute on the field. There's been plenty of rigged games throughout history. Seria A has been rigged for years and years. By most of leading clubs (having refs and other officials on their paying list) competing with each other. That doesn't necessarily mean Juventus or Milan won it every year. They still had to perform! But were they given an edge to win it by doing so? Certainly. And that's what Van Gal is implying to.

[@lyndxnjoel6917]

They're all bound to contracts. He had to take the loss or he'd have to pay.

[@zeno7903]

@@markomeker7789 no thats not it. Thats not what happened. With Var hardly any mistakes happened and its the ronaldo fanboys because their idol is a big game flop and cannot perform in biggest stage of football with its pressure have to make narratives to somehow counter the GOAT's world cup victory. Thats all to it. There wasnt a single penalty thats shady or something. 2 50-50 calls went in favour of argentina thats it but thats just champions luck. You need that to win things.

[@markomeker7789]

@@zeno7903 I wouldn't say so. I'm not Ronaldo or Messi fan. I watched all the WC games and those two penalties vs Croatia and Poland were highly shady. Also watched commentaries from referees from various countries and most agree there's no chance those were actual penalties by instructions and regulations they were given by referee committee. And they don't understand why VAR didn't overturn those decisions. VAR and usage of it was extremely shady and contriversial, not just at WC, but various top leagues around the world including Premiership! So I wouldn't use VAR argument seriously. It exists so therfore everything is clean. It's the way referee interprets the context in which shady circumstances happened is what's crucial to making a final decision.

[@eklavya_kumar]

messi: makes world class pass to assist molina goal through the legs of Ake with error margin of 0.0001 ms, amazes the whole world van haal: How can a normal human being do that? How can someone have third eye in side? How can you time a pass with that precision? It's fixxxeeeeeeed😂 We get it van haal, messi is alien, go watch barca highlights from 2011. Messi can do such things

[@rajmalla5310]

FRANCE GOT 2 PENALTIES TOO, AND MOST OF THE GAME GAME WENT TO PENALTIES

[@nathanmerchant7696]

This man’s more toxic than Penaldo fans 😂

[@MILI_UPE]

Hate to say it. Most people i found out to be calling WC as rigged are either CR7 fan or Madrid fan… Peace…

[@daleviker5884]

IT's not just "most people", it's the only people. Just a bunch of teenaged Ronaldo fans who are struggling to cope with the fact that they now have zero happening in their lives.

[@nhatnamtrinh5017]

I feel sorry for him. In this era of doubling down, a simple "I was wrong" apology doesn't seem possible. Instead of being remembered as something positive, he's willing to let this stick to him like an addiction.

[@mheiseus]

Van Gaal is insane

[@US-px7wc]

Always been!

[@timunwira2129]

true. he should go to Psychiatry treatment

[@Angelabarbosadominguez-it4fh]

he can make some DUMB statment some time but on this one...mhhhh how much penality did argentina get ?😞 lets Be honnest

[@davidzarate6775]

Just speaking facts.

[@eminemdrehybrid]

What is van gaal on drugs 😂😂

[@TT-fq7pl]

They sure were given a lot of soft penalties. These pundits are a little too dismissive of the possibility, given the grotesque corruption of FIFA.

[@BelfastManUtdTherapy]

Guys ...Van Gaal like all of us, has no control over his brain chemistry. Some people are autistic, some like me adhd, others a million other conditions through no choice. He was born with a narcissistic brain, through nobodys fault or is decision, therefore he has felt the urge to put that 'fix' nonsense in the public domain, so that in his day to day life with friends, family, media and strangers, his hidden insecurity that losing the game means he's a loser, (which he isn't) can be put down to him personally being wronged. We are only our brains, and a narcissist's biggest fear is that even one person might see him as a 'loser' and he is worried about that more than anything. Even though nobody does think that of him like that, he's achieved unreal success as a manager that most of us could only dream of. Peace and love gerard

[@jeffrejr1]

There was a penalty in virtually every single game. And when you see the pens all softer than the last

[@zak__21]

I think the statement is disrespectful to nations whose players put in their best and fought to the last minute. Look at France Croatia and even Netherlands themselves. Most players put in their best efforts and tried to win at all cost. To just disregard their efforts as being rigged, is really absurd

[@anp901]

I won't take anything away from LV Gaal's career as a player and a coach... But he appears to be salty here with this remark.

[@aviwephindani5054]

Honestly, it's a huge compliment when your professor says you cheated on a test, or the invigilators helped you out to score 100% when that is not true.

[@rohithraman6488]

Didn't Van Gaal say that if the Holland-Argentina game went to pens they would have the edge?

[@sepehr.javaheri]

The sore loser lost on penalties TWICE to Argentina in WC2014 and WC2022, what a nut case 😂😂

[@dantwin5779]

"Nothing is impossible in this word,world cup in winter". Consult Sepp Blatter

[@anthonym6202]

Personally I don’t think it was rigged but some of those penalties that were given to Argentina 🇦🇷 were very questionable.

[@rwac07]

Even if they were soft penalties the obstruction is still there, unlike some of the penalties given to the guy in your PFP

[@the4thwall385]

For those people who is saying final is fixed before Argentina were dominating more of the game... Broo they were just better than their opponent!! Just like man city dominated real madrid in champions league!

[@abdelhakkhalil7684]

So, if it's a conspiracy, then Van Gaal is a major contributor and accomplice. After all, he let Messi win the game.

[@MyExsInTexas]

Messi makes everything look easy so naturally, old uncles are gonna think things are rigged.

[@LIONELMESSI_G.O.A.T_LM10]

Was the World Cup PREDETERMINED for Lionel Messi? The main perpetrator of this scenario is the Dutch national team itself. who was happy to let Argentina with Leo Messi through to the next round... Approximately how much money do they receive from this scenario..?

[@bynahelemaal]

Fun fact: the free kick the dutch got, from which weghorst equalized, a foul by the dutch, but given as a foul by argentina. Mans still salty messi humiliated him as payback for riquelme in front of 1bln people

[@liswilol]

In Argentina vs Netherlands & Argentina vs France, referees helped their maximum for Netherlands and France to give penalties. But God never giveup, He ended those matches in shootouts and Argentina won. Yes it was predestined.... Predestined by God.

[@sharjesm]

Where was the "penalty for Argentina" vs Mexico? That was when they really needed help. They were looking like they were going out. Or the three disallowed goals against Saudi where they actually lost. Van Gaal is just a bitter man who loat his job because of their defeat at the WC. Messi pulled them out if the rut and Arg won it fair and square.

[@gabis1963]

If Modric won the Ballon D’Or after loosing at the World Cup then it would be a joke if Messi won’t win it.

[@himynameis294]

Modric won LaLiga and UCL that year!! That’s why not just for a few games

[@gabrielschwartz1963]

@@himynameis294 Modric is overrated and if you look at the stats that year Ronaldo came 1st and Messi 2nd. Modric was not even in the first ten. That was a steal.

[@himynameis294]

@@gabrielschwartz1963Obviously CR7 was robbed but that doesn’t mean Modric is overrated. The only reason they have for giving him the trophy is his WC performance

[@645Francisco]

They say messi scored penalties but they're forgetting that ronaldos only goal was a penalty that they dove for😂😂

[@amantoaman]

Lossers complaints Winners celebrates Simple as that 😂

[@naimulsayed1339]

Of course. Not only 2022. It was supposed to happen since 2006. But didn’t happen. It happens it 2022. Because Messi started to enjoy it rather than feeling pressured. And you know what happens when Messi enjoys it. He dominates. Simply dominates.

[@CadetRubio]

The big question people forget to ask before getting to "how" is WHY? Why would Europeans and European Organizations favor Messi and just say "F Europe, let's give it to South Americans 🤪" for no reason. Then give a FK to Netherlands on the edge of the box for 50-50 challenge in the last seconds. Give France a second penalty in the last minutes.

[@dr.rickbooty]

Money

[@LoagoMagwaneng]

To be honest Holland was never gonna beat ARG but that tournament was completely funky

[@chloe78181]

so Van Gaal never believed that the netherlands stood a chance?

[@Nimbus04]

Completely agree with Ale.. had Kolo Muani scored his chance nobody would've talked about this. It's just so pathetic to nitpick everything against Argentina just because they don't want Lionel Messi to win the World Cup.

[@jordegales]

Van Gaal is salty. Was defeated on players quality and tactically 🖐😐🤚

[@gajogrande]

Of course they do. Known Messi fans. But everyone watching the World Cup could see there was a push for Messi to win his last World Cup. Defensive teams were very successful, but an opening penalty destroys any defensive plan from a theoretically inferior team. Everyone knew beforehand that Argentina’s first goal against France was going to be a penalty.

[@RabianOfficial]

😂 this is a moment of madness

[@Daniel_mwale]

Its Shaka's laugh after Gab gave his comment for me 🤣🤣

[@aldrousmahamoud4288]

Greats Of All Time Lionel Messi 🐐

[@complexlogic8634]

Breaking: Van goal in talks to be next inter Miami manager.

[@rajaharry7170]

Fifa : we want Argentina to win WC but we have to make Argentina lost to Saudi Arabia in its first game, also make sure Argentina go into Penalties with Holland and France, we also want Brazil to loose to Croatia and Neymar to cry so Brazil would not face Argentina in the semi final. 😂😂😂😂

[@aa8995]

I would not be shocked if he also comes out saying the nations league Ronaldo won was rigged against them🤦🏾‍♂️😂😂

[@ferrantepallas]

If it were fixed the handball against Montiel in the final would never have been called ... I don't think it should have been called anyway.

[@eLectric_692]

I wanted Argentina to win but that had to be a penalty for France.. that strike from Mbappe was going top right corner I'm certain.

[@ZhaliaBloom]

Absolutely uncalled for for manager to say that not to mention completely ridiculous, if that were true France wouldn't have gotten that penalty during the match - how absurd 🙄

[@devdasrakesh61]

I don't think the WC was fixed in Argentina's or anyone's favor, but I definitely felt that Messi and by extension Argentina benefited from the officials and the Organisers. Messi was playing for PSG owned by the Qataris who were also the hosts of the WC. Some European countries and players were raising concerns about the human rights issues in Qatar, but not Messi and company. I think the Qataris would have been grateful for that. How that Leandro Paredes kick was not a red card I will never understand and now in the EPL players are getting yellow cards just for throwing the ball away. Big players and personalities do get away with more in sports. In tennis umpires are afraid to penalise the big players like Nadal, Djokovic, Serena. I think I even heard Nadal and Serena tell some umpires that they will never again officiate in any of their matches, that too on live television during play. Everyone knows referees were afraid to anger Alex Ferguson during his time with Man Utd especially at Old Trafford. At the highest levels winning or losing is decided by fine margins, and so even little things can make a big difference.

[@tevildo45]

@ devdasrakesh61 in that case why not rig it for France. The Qataris own psg a French team.

[@somemedic8482]

Yeah like giving Netherlands ten extra minutes when Argentina had the lead and giving France two penalties was in Favor of Messi and Argentina. Do you realize how stupid it all sounds ?

[@JB-nj2wr]

Owning Ronaldo fans and van gaal won’t logic. Everyone has to be in on it. That’s how ridiculous that statement is

[@anonymous2428]

penaldog fans will agree with him😭😂

[@ALLINONE-ji8vr]

3 goals disallowed against saudi arabia so that saudi arabia can win 2-1 in order for argentina to win the world cup, male it make sense, its more like saying ronaldo is better than messi just doesnt make any sense. why would they give france 2 penalties against argentina if they want it to go argentinas way. i get it messi destroyed so many european teams thats why they hate everything that has to do with him. can you imagine some fans in the US are now hating on inter miami. that game against chelsea in 2009 was the only game that favoured barcelona not messi but barcelona.

[@nostalgia_news]

No mention of how it looked like Messi had Penalty Subscription the way the refrees couldn't stop giving him penalties.

[@eLectric_692]

You guys been saying for years he can't score them but when he scores them it's fixed.. how many pens have gone to Ronaldo in big games over the years? The irony of you people.. you any idea the pressure on Messi to score those penalties in those big moments, with his history.. that was a lot to overcome when the world is watching.. had he missed them, it would have ruined his legacy.. missing wasn't an option.

[@nostalgia_news]

@@eLectric_692 the scoring or missing of penalties is not my point. My point is the how they are not mentioning the very alarming record amount of penalties Messi was awarded in a world cup. This coming from the same network that pushed the whole "Penaldo" narrative to try and curb the amount of penalties CR7 was being given. For them to ignore such a point when discussing if the world cup was fixed is very odd to me. Not to say I think it was fixed but I just want consistency instead of ignoring facts that may support the world cup was fixed Van Gaal comments like its completely out of the realm of possibility.

[@eLectric_692]

@@nostalgia_news 4 penalties... in 7 games.. you're acting like they had 9 penalties in 7 games.. get a grip.. France had 2 pens in the final ffs..

[@eLectric_692]

@@nostalgia_news literally any team could receive 4 penalties in the next 7 games.. happens more often than you think you just struggle to accept Messi has the WC because it ruins your pathetic dream of Ronaldo being greater..

[@nostalgia_news]

@@eLectric_692 Correction, 5 penalties in 7 games. He missed one. How do I know that's a lot? Because it holds the record for most amount of penalties in a world cup. I am not saying anything that isn't factual. Even four penalties to a single team is a lot. How do I know that? The last time that happpened was in 1978 and officiating wasn't what it was today. Teams just don't get that many penalties in the world cup it just doesn't happen. Its a statistical anomaly. And I never said they were undeserved its possible its all just a freak accident argentina got so many penalties. However I simply find it suspect that they are glossing over the alarming amount of penalties despite how teams never get that many penalties in a world cup.

[@twoknightfall3722]

The bitterness of old age in some men is worse . His just shows more .

[@eric144144]

Wasn't the 1998 WC rigged ? Platini admits draw for 1998 World Cup was fixed so France faced Brazil in final Sky News Friday 18 May 2018 23:24, UK

[@serialkilla23]

they also food poisoned brazil ronaldo in the final for 100% ....in case he score.

[@eric144144]

Yes. Thanks. It was so brazen.@@serialkilla23

[@elshadkadeer8325]

Exactly, everything is rigged in this world....we are just small pawns who just follows the masters... @@serialkilla23

[@julkernyne8925]

​@@serialkilla23Ronaldo said nothing happened like that un 1998 wc. It was media created a fake story

[@fadius17]

I think his statement is being misconstrued. I don’t think he meant it was rigged in that sense. But there was definitely a lot of pressure on the ref not to be the difference in Argentina losing thy game after blowing a two goal lead. It was very evident in extra time if you can objectively look at the calls the ref was making not withstanding at least one automatic red for kicking the ball at the Dutch bench.

[@tatan-sanuchiha5295]

FIFA corruption. Never gets old.

[@sharadmohip6536]

Van gaal should be more like Van dijk… filled with class in defeat

[@yammmm9112]

If anything, they put a ref for that game against Netherlands that was known to be problematic in La Liga (Spain), who was known for being a ref who likes attention, having erratic decisions, and who was registered as a Real Madrid fan in Spain for years. He was known hated by Spanish teams especially by Barcelona and neutrally felt by Rea Madrid. He is most infamous for disallowing a goal by Messi in La liga that meant that Barcelona lost the league title to Athletico Madrid . It was not offside and was later confirmed that it was error by the Spanish FA, but that they could not overturn it after the fact. So they put this guy in the WC knockout round to ref Argentina vs Netherlands? He was so bad at controlling the game from the beginning knowing that provocation by Dutch players prior and during the game and the fact that tbh Argentina doesn’t respond well to provocation (a known tactic by opposing teams bc they can’t think of anything else to do against Messi’s Argentina team). The ref then proceeded to call some fouls but not others FOR BOTH SIDES! and then was inconsistent to what amounted to a yellow or red. He was so bad that BOTH TEAMS COMPLAINED!!! but only one team got in trouble for calling out the bad ref after the game…. Only Argentina was punished according to fifa rules for complaining about the game yet the Dutch staff and players were not even slapped on the wrist for their pre-game statements, during the game,in the tunnels , during penalies antics/insults that the Dutch lunged at Messi and Argentina staff. Many of which were then exposed through FIFAs cameras…

[@footballpredictions-g2y]

Was it fixed? Highly unlikely. But was there interest from FIFA and Qatar that Messi wins WC? Absolutely. Why do you think Messi went to PSG of all clubs where there's Qatari owner? That was obviously part of some agreement in connection to the World Cup. And you could see Messi was extremely unhappy there and was counting the days until he could leave. And guess what? Just six months after the WC he did leave to Inter Miami where he's happier than ever.

[@DevonHaigh-if5hk]

Your overthinking this badly. Where else would he of signed for. Not the premier league because his english is none existant. Only teams good enough for messi was Bayern, PSG or Juventus

[@pratapr1515]

For which team do Mbappe play? Future can be cemented for another 10 yrs as he is just 23 yrs; Is that Qatari owner that dumb?

[@giftfolique464]

So fifa paid the ref to give France two penalties in the final

[@footballpredictions-g2y]

@@pratapr1515 Mbappe has already won the WC

[@footballpredictions-g2y]

@@giftfolique464 I said it wasn't fixed.

[@cannotthinkofanybetterhandle]

Tchouameni, coman, van djik, berghuis etc who missed their penalties were also in it apparently

[@anatoliybakaev600]

I agree, but... If not the first penalty against Croatia, the game would have been different. If it weren't for the first penalty against France, the game would have been different. FIFA doesn’t buy everything, FIFA buys the moments that influence it, and see how it goes.

[@serialkilla23]

they also scripted for saudi to win in their first match....and all the goals argentina scored were also practice with others team so that it happens according to the script.

[@abrarmorshedaurko1093]

what u smokin bruh 😂

[@mahimmuntasir9431]

maybe dembele was in the secret meeting as well.

[@Rizemize123]

In the final, France *first* and *third* goals were penalty goals.

[@AbedCruz]

The game of Croatia vs Argentina could be played 100 times in Qatar, the result would be the same. Croatia was out of breath. And offensively, there was 0 threat from them. Remember also that a penalty kick is never whistled in the middle of the pitch but inside the box of the opponent. To reach the box, you have to play and be threatening. Argentina played and created more chances of scoring. A good team doesn't give up because they're down 1-0. Netherlands and France were down 2-0 but they managed to come back. A sore loser will always have arguments to justify his loss. Finally, the penalty kick against Croatia was a valid one without a shadow of doubt.

[@outlook8]

if it was rigged, why would they loose against Saudi Arabia. People just come up with random accusation instead of enjoying the art of football from Messi

[@segunfayomi4949]

Van Gaal didn't have a response to Messi on and off the pitch especially immediately after the match when Messi confronted him. He just woke up from that shock and just found his voice to respond 😅

[@ruwandesilva7309]

Congratulations Messi 👑🏆🐐❤️🙏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@drsomto007]

I agree with Van Gaal, any slight chance they had to give Argentina a penalty they did just that

[@navyryder]

This was not Argentina team, this was Messi team that won the World Cup, and Messi belongs to the world!

[@sly2kusa]

Ol' Turkey neck Van Gaal​ must be on the chop​pin​' block. 😂