Was This The Most Dangerous Airliner Ever?

[@shimavitz47]

The pilot reporting all the details before the crash is a hero.

[@Zebred2001]

Yes indeed! Max respect to that guy!

[@vangard9725]

He is the superior pilot westoid pilots could never be as good as him

[@henryatkinson1479]

Truly a testament to the dedication, expertise, and skill of Soviet pilots.

[@APFS-DS]

@@vangard9725 lol what a dumb vatnik

[@Primarch359]

My other favorite crash heroism from the soviet union is the water landing on the neva.

[@MrVijay0611]

Mustard is back again with another quality content. Always worth the wait.

[@Lodestar.]

Fr

[@usa5893]

Fr

[@maxstonecro1]

True!

[@n908qd7]

Indeed it is

[@firedeamon6118]

YAY MUSTARD IS BACK

[@georgegonzalez2476]

Like many early jets, like the B-47 and B-58, the pilots would often take the handbook landing speed, and add 5 knots for the wife and 3 for each child.

[@brianmaitai7685]

Wow!...you learn something new everyday. On the TUPOLEV TU 22 Blinder A Bomber, Iraqi Airforce pilots would augment the autopilot by tying the fighter type control column with bungee cords!

[@SMOKEY_HATES_TAXES]

@@brianmaitai7685 huh is this for real?!

[@UnIimited_Power]

What if you had like 20 kids 😮

[@TheAsheybabe89]

@@brianmaitai7685why?

[@nigelrg1]

The 707, briefly mentioned here, was the real advance in jetliners. It was the first aircraft to have flexible wings, which avoided the need for massive reinforcements at the junction of wing and fuselage.

[@HikariSaiyan]

Agreed it did have some flaws but it was a safe aircraft with advanced technology at the time

[@ironcito1101]

The 707 is basically a modern aircraft. All changes since then have been refinements, such as more efficient and quieter engines, more modern avionics, and so on, but the overall design is mostly the same. Losing the flight engineer was perhaps the most notable change since then.

[@WilhelmKarsten]

The 707 series is still flying and is expected to remain flying until 2040

[@supa3ek]

Typical americunts. Think you created everything !!!

[@cosmicHalArizona]

707 was a terrific plane.

[@i.o.inoagenta]

Great video! Thank you Just some details here: all soviet passenger's pilots those days were former army pilots. And this is very important detail about why engineers couldn't understand why such situations happen with the plane. And why they were blamed by Tupolev for incidents and crashes. That planes had blackboxes but very basic; every time on inspection after crash there were no any voice recording. So black box constructors were blamed for failed device as well. But again, nothing was wrong with black box: just pilots when they fought for the plane they did it in total silence. Like they tought and did in the army. So that heroic captain (Garold Dmitrievich Kuznetsov) did was completely uncomon. He commented every step and result. He fought with his crew for the plane til the end. His last words before crash on black box recording were "..we are dying! Goodbye!"

[@irisiris143]

omg wow ok thank you for this

[@DiggerDeeper01]

I'm sorry I was enraptured and felt so bad reading this and want to salute these men, but the last sentence slapped me in the fucking face. It just reads like "Ohp, I'm die. Thank you forever." and I just lost it.

[@i.o.inoagenta]

@@DiggerDeeper01not sure if i understood it in the right way. But if you’re skeptical about last words - you can find confirmation on wiki en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1958_Aeroflot_Tu-104_Kanash_crash or related videos with recorded audio from the box. Google voice translate can help with russian audio

[@Junimeek]

​@@DiggerDeeper01 i wonder how many people reading this are actually going to know who you're referencing here lmao

[@samholdsworth420]

​@@DiggerDeeper01who

[@he11ange1]

One of the worst accidents of TU-104 is the Soviet Navy СССР-42332 in the 80s. It carried on board 50 admirals and high ranking officers of the Soviet Pacific fleet. All passengers were killed. Nearly reduced the whole command line of the Soviet Pacific fleet to nil.

[@impaugjuldivmax]

dumbest airfly ever.. such a high ranking commanders should never meet together, even on parades

[@maikanielsen8101]

Ouch

[@Phani7]

At pushkin

[@Project_1143M]

That one Admiral who didnt board Hehehehaw

[@pegcity4eva]

That crash was sure hubris.

[@sardarahmed929]

Something i just feel so lucky to be born in a era where aviation is much more safe & mature

[@WilliamBruhhh]

Boeing: are you sure about that?

[@bruhman2396]

(737 max walks in)

[@michaelchristof2959]

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

[@jagfromtexas]

You have DEI Boeing 😮

[@moamoaoz]

As long as you are flying in an Airbus you are fine.

[@tidmouthmilk12]

I love how much the CG renders have evolved over time on this channel. They were always nice looking, even with the models on the desk aesthetic of the older videos, but seeing the fully rendered vehicles in an outdoor and realistic looking setting I'm surprised I'm still watching a series on KZbin sometimes.

[@solsoman102]

haha wow you just reminded me of the old model on table thing they used to do it's what made me fall in love with the channel but over time i forgot that their tenders weren't always this great

[@Fisher_007]

Not to mention that they are rendered with a real-time engine (Unreal Engine) so one day we might have interactive versions. That would be so cool!

[@DataC0llect0r]

I was about to say something like this. CG looks amazing

[@cuccklord]

szfhdg

[@SDRIFTERAbdlmounaim]

are they blender animations or what softwares does he use ?

[@aidenmclaughlin1076]

Might have been a horrible craft, but you’ve gotta admit that it looks incredible. Those integrated jet engines are sleek as hell

[@tylerk2533]

Big facts the plane is nice looking

[@feodorramin7043]

Agreed

[@Edax_Royeaux]

One engine explosion or engine fire and the wing is toast.

[@drabberfrog]

How big of a pain in the ass was it to do maintenance on those engines?

[@winterstarlight-w8z]

"this plane is a beautiful coffin" - Soviet pilots, probably

[@easy_eight2810]

The Soviet Union's motto could just be: "Safety is secondary, superiority is priority"

[@1234j]

Great comment. Though 'apparent superiority (don't read fact-based reports) is priority' is closer to the truth, sigh.

[@Quattordici]

Da, comrade

[@jhfdhgvnbjm75]

Or 'why worry about something thats never going to happen...'

[@extremegrieferbible]

Might aswell be McDonnell Douglas' motto.

[@austinhan6998]

@@extremegrieferbible and now Boeing

[@Mathias-RetroFutureTech]

I can imagine these flights, where the plane stalled, to be one of the most horrible things one can experience... this must have been absolutely terrifying.

[@jeelsvealnerve1163]

Just like the 737Max... or the original 737 before they redesigned the rudder servo valve. We have our colossal failures in aviation, just as the Russians and British do.

[@superstarmusic9043]

whats the first song name

[@jeomirit]

​@@jeelsvealnerve1163 and you understand that, but unfortunately others don't and just keep saying that Russia is unsafe

[@mandarin1257]

A stall doesn't feel that scary. For an average passenger, it would probably just feel like some bad turbulence, not realizing they're going down until the very end. Different story for the pilots, who were acutely aware of the entire situation as it was unfolding. Terrible tragedy... the rules of aviation, both written and unwritten, are in blood. Source: I'm a private pilot.

[@dmitrykim3096]

People were built differently back then, it was almost normal that disasters happen from time to time and airplanes crash

[@leonidpopkov7623]

When I was 4 years old I flew by TU-104 from Moskow to Sverdlovsk. From the comfort point of view it was very fine journey.

[@gedgjoumk5449]

Your family must be rich

[@leonidpopkov7623]

@@gedgjoumk5449 Not at all) Flights in USSR were cheap. One of rare good things in that undead state.

[@gedgjoumk5449]

@@leonidpopkov7623 how much usd in today's value I wonder...

[@angusclark8330]

The only Soviet airliner that wasn't furnished like your Grandma's house was the Tu144. Most had Cadillac upholstery, deep carpets, curtains and library standard reading lights. You might die in a field, but you would be comfortable till the thump.

[@angusclark8330]

@@gedgjoumk5449In the 70s, a flight from Moscow to Central Asia would cost 30 Roubles. Moscow to Khabarovsk was 40. Moscow to Vladivostok was 50. Hideously underpriced to some eyes, but the overriding priorities in the Soviet Union were national connectivity and accessibility.Even Solzhenitsyn, no fan of the Soviets, remarked on the cheap availability of air transport. Subsidized to Hell and back, but Whoop de Doo, so's Amtrak.

[@Poorschedriver]

I've been watching Mustard for years now, and every time I see a new video I'm blown away by every aspect of it. Honestly, from the intriguing topic, to the life-like 3-D models, to the smooth narration, you guys just amaze me. Seriously the most underrated channel on YT. Thank you for providing this content, and yes I've joined Nebula I just can't comment on there!

[@MustardChannel]

Thank you! I know it's cliche to say, but I'm so glad there's an audience out there that appreciates it :)

[@mui6151]

From all of us who have seen your videos there is indeed an audience

[@TastyPurpleGum]

@Poorschedriver I couldn't have said it better

[@Fetherko]

The audio is clear and he has a great voice.

[@maxuabo]

Who doesn’t love trying out the first prototype of the first generation of anything

[@microcloudhd9231]

I do clinical trials and am a member of the Windows insider program so I do that quite a lot lmao

[@twistedyogert]

It's exciting.

[@Edax_Royeaux]

HMS Dreadnought was supposedly a very safe posting to be on, since all she accomplished in the war was the sinking of a U-Boat. First all-big guns warship with the new prototype steam turbine engines redefined what it was to be a Battleship and rendered any pre-dreadnoughts before it obsolete.

[@CynthiaSchoenbauer]

Not me.

[@TheLaughingDank]

You take the leap, either you land or you don't.

[@vladilenkalatschev4915]

My dad flew on board of TU-104 several times in 60s. He told me that the airliner was really comfortable and the catering was great with black caviar and cognac

[@restojon1]

That's fantastic! What an experience that must have been! The Soviet era was so fascinating from both an engineering and social history standpoint. с уважением кому папа (я учу русский excuse me if my Russian is wrong)

[@daymenleo6895]

it's a shame airlines don't bring back the caviar and COG' nac

[@dannydaw59]

I wonder if the Soviet Govt kept the crashes a secret from the flying public.

[@restojon1]

@Константин Родчанин большой спасибо 🙏

[@vladilenkalatschev4915]

@@restojon1 flying in 50s-60s was really something special on both sides either East and West.

[@symilarian8650]

My parents and I flew on a Comet from New York to London 1959. First Jet airliner for us. It was really a great experience. We went on to a different flight to Paris. We heard that the same plane (Comet) went on to Stockholm and exploded in the air. Something to do with the cabin pressure system. Our next flights were on the DC8 and 707.

[@kjetilkjernsmo8499]

Hmmm, I can't find any such accidents in the Aviation Safety Network database. Neither in 1959, not enroute to Stockholm.

[@therealtony2009]

@@kjetilkjernsmo8499 ooh

[@MeTube3]

By 1958 the on service Comet fleet were replaced by Comet 4 which was modified to prevent the pressure hull structural failures that affect the earlier versions.

[@semsemeini7905]

I think it was coming from Rome.

[@kjetilkjernsmo8499]

@pa.d5688 Ah, OK, I thought it was a Comet we were talking about, not a Tu-104.

[@machpodfan]

I flew on one in 1976, from then-Leningrad to Moscow. No individual air outlets, loud engine moan, and I watched in fascination on approach as the flaps wound out on long, long exposed jackscrews. As well, at Leningrad were a flock of recently-retired TU-114s on the tarmac, all those multiple layers of props glinting in the sun...good memories!

[@tonyunderwood9678]

Exposed jackscrews on the flaps reminds me of the DC-10... sitting in the right spot, you can see the jackscrews working. :-)

[@chrisamies2141]

I flew on one the same year, can't remember which route (we went to Moscow, then-Leningrad, Kiev and Yalta), but going by what you've said it may have been the same.

[@superstarmusic9043]

whats the first song name

[@kipchickensout]

I love the almost photorealistic graphics in between, the choice of music, the type of information you provide and how you provide it coupled with real pictures an videos, as well as simple graphics, superb!

[@superstarmusic9043]

whats the first song name

[@BobBasshead]

Very well presented.

[@Googleissmart-iq5uv]

''The TU-104 is the best aircraft in the world. In 5 minutes it will bring you to your grave'' really got me 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

The de Havilland Comet has the worst loss rate of any jet airliner in history

[@senorpepper3405]

​Those square windows​@@sandervanderkammen9230

[@notNajimi]

@@sandervanderkammen9230…ok?

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

@notNajimi It's not OK, the Comet Disaster is the worst engineering failure in commercial jet aviation history and a truly shameful and humiliating chapter in British aviation history.

[@ΕΥΘΥΜΗΣ72]

​@@sandervanderkammen9230I mean it was one of the first jet airliners so... kind of expected?

[@1234j]

Excellent video and content, as always. Thank you for such consistently high quality of content. I remember these aeroplanes! Cheers from England.

[@BaronSirolf]

This should deserve to be on television 10 times more then any other documentry I really love your content!

[@williamyoung9401]

"Why you wouldn't want to fly the new Boeing 737-Max. Did I say 737-Max? I meant a 'Soviet' airliner...yeah..."

[@heidirabenau511]

@@williamyoung9401 *Boeing moves head office to Moscow*

[@gophtheengine6185]

As an aerospace(aeronautical) engineering student I confess that I did shorten the wings of a G550 in order to turn it into a EMB-145, albeit just on the sim ofc. If I were to test it, surely it will stall.

[@ThisHandleIsTakenTryThis]

best engineering type

[@liliagilliam]

The pilot reporting all the details before the crash is a hero.. Mustard is back again with another quality content. Always worth the wait..

[@jaybee9269]

I love the B-29 Navigation/Bombadier window on that beast. Beautiful aircraft.

[@shaider1982]

I wouldn't be surprised if that was deliberate: Tupolev had the job of reverse engineering B29's that landed in the USSR Theses became the Tu4 Bull

[@SMGJohn]

Soviets liked having the navigator in the nose, a tradition they kept for a long time.

[@RatPfink66]

@@SMGJohn he was probably having to shoot the stars and other stuff

[@angusclark8330]

@@shaider1982 Landing fields in the Soviet Union were often just that: fields. The navigator/ co- pilot would have to assess ground conditions before okaying a landing attrmpt. ANT was just keeping up the practise of his youth.

[@Alanjohnlew]

I remember plane spotting at Heathrow as a kid in the 60s, when ATC change from the two main runways to one of the shorter, no longer existing, cross runways. An Aeroflot TU104 came in fast and had to deploy parachutes to stop. A very unusual sight at Heathrow.

[@avramnovorra]

It's amazing that the Tu-104 and the Tu-114 and -116 are based of of Soviet bombers yet have had such importance to aviation in so many regards.. well done Mustard!

[@hurri7720]

All civilian aviation with jet engines was based on bombers. Perhaps not the British but they failed perhaps due to that.

[@aoki6332]

@@hurri7720 not really only the jet engine came from bombers its just that most company that made plane where making civilian and Military plane the same why lockheed martin make missile for the air force and booster (and a lot of other stuff but you get the idea) for the nasa

[@theq4602]

I;d love to see a passenger jet based on the TU-22

[@cuccklord]

hi

[@machupikachu1085]

@@aoki6332 the boeing 707 was designed from a bomber.

[@bogwife7942]

a beautiful plane that probably should have stayed in an aviation museum from the moment it was first built

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

Much better plane than the de Havilland Comet

[@Robonoob_per]

The is way better that any aircraft ever like the f15 doesn’t even have as many kills

[@jimtaylor294]

​@@Robonoob_perTrue, true 😆👌 .

[@MrTHAUniverse]

It is a hella gorgeous aircraft for sure regardless of it's reputation

[@UltimateNut]

Soviet designs were so awesome

[@pal6636]

...and that's why aircraft are referred to as "she "

[@jaybee9269]

So true.

[@midcenturymodern9330]

That is like saying "what a beautiful gravestone." 😄

[@planemod8399]

@@pal6636 boats

[@henrikr7445]

Mustard needs his own documentary special on one of the major streaming services. Each episode is so well done, informative and entertaining to watch.

[@sailintothesun3421]

I think the 'execs' would meddle in the creative process. They would probably find his dedication to making his videos so visually appealing wasteful

[@tihspidtherekciltilc5469]

No.

[@MONARCH1985]

Yeah if he released videos that are exclusive. Still waiting on the B-2 video that was supposed to release two months ago

[@BR69843]

@@MONARCH1985 Did you note the point made at the end of this video about the Spirit video?

[@MONARCH1985]

@@BR69843 no I didn’t watch it

[@dmytribabenkov4715]

Thanks!

[@Даэтоон-с8м]

Often in the summer, the family flew Tu-104 from Vladivostok to Khabarovsk and then to Moscow on Il-62. Comfort corresponded to that era.

[@snjert8406]

I absolutely adore these videos. I’m studying media and IT and just rendering out a simple animation took my (really good) computer over a night. I can’t imagine the amount of time that goes into these, including the research, scripting, planning, editing and so on. I’m incredibly flabbergasted at how you can keep making these and I watch every single one. So good.

[@interpl6089]

What's a Really good Computer? In Different Parts of the World, It Still Means a Different Thing.

[@xr.spedtech]

Do your Raytracing on your GPU Cores either through cuda or through Frag or pixel shaders ...

[@karimrgalimov]

Every few months the world becomes a better place due to your videos.

[@saml7610]

Yeah I think that's negated by all the, well... *Gestures at the world*

[@BotNickz]

Maintenance must’ve been a pain but wing integrated engines look so sleek like on this and the De Havilland Comet

[@hurri7720]

Still a very bad design as every engine "explosion" would have been more dangerous to the plane, the fuselage. No wonder it's not used.

[@x-ray3443]

@@hurri7720 That and you cant really use high bypass turbofans with that design

[@filledwithvariousknowledge2747]

@@x-ray3443 A key advantage from that embedded design was no engine drag

[@x-ray3443]

@@filledwithvariousknowledge2747 but dont non highbypass turbofans drink fuel?

[@BlueyChandler]

Beautiful looking aircraft, especially the Glass nose cone/ cockpit and wing design.

[@littlequarian7200]

There is actually one of them placed near my house in my town as a local landmark. Its feels great to finally know the story of this plane after walking by it almost everyday since childhood.

[@slavsh]

I watched Russian TV film about this aircraft where they mentioned that pilots reported many times weak responsiveness of the elevators and official reports after the first crash, which mentioned this dangerous tendency to pitch-up, but Tupolev himself ignored pilot's complains and the report and said that pilots just don't know how to fly. Probably because this aircraft was a favourite one of Krushchev and authorities just didn't want to take responsibility to ground this airplane - direct results of autocracy and totalitarianism. If they haven't ignored pilot's reports, they would have avoided future catastrophes and deaths. Another issue for this plane was it's challenging landing, pilots should descend in steps rather than smoothly following glissade. All in all Tu-104 scored the worst reliable Soviet airliner with 37 airplanes lost out of 201 produced. The last catastrophe happened in 1981 (being dismissed from Aeroflot, Tu-104 still has been in use for army). In this catastrophe high-ranking Soviet military personnel of Pacific fleet had died.

[@slavsh]

@TacticalMoonstone Thank you for letting me know.

[@angusclark8330]

@tacticalmoonstone9468 He also noted that the cause of the accident was unsecured rolls of printing paper that were being, in essence, internally smuggled to the Far East, each weighing half a metric tonne. When the plane pitched up to take off, the paper rolls rolled to the back of the (tail) cargo compartment, destroying the plane's balance irrecoverably. No pilot on this earth or the next could have saved it. The irony that the cream of Soviet Naval Defense had died because of their bourgeois (and possibly capitalist) greed seems to have evaporated from the official report.

[@matthewmosier8439]

@@angusclark8330 Interesting info. Capitalism doesn't have anything more to do with greed than Socialism does. One can be greedy in either system.

[@slesru]

"direct results of autocracy and totalitarianism. " I guess communist are responsible for boeing 737max ? ;-)

[@himoffthequakeroatbox4320]

@@matthewmosier8439 Indeed. Boeing 737 Max, anyone?

[@DocSmouse]

The Paper Skies video about the Soviet Navy's Tu-104 accident was excellent, and it's great to see an overview of the plane in general. Great video as always!

[@brianwong7285]

10:41 There it is on that list.

[@arifbayusatrio1028]

@@brianwong7285 good eye

[@player1GR]

Not that great, it's a very weak video with bad explanation. In reality those crashes were caused by stalls on wingtips (so called "Saber dance"). Planes of that era didn't have a special twist. New planes do have it. So now if a stall is occurred, it starts not on wingtips. But Tu-104 developed stalls on the wingtips, and as wings are very much sweped back, wing loses the lifting force closer to a back of the plane, so the center of lift shifts to the nose of the aircraft. And of course it has nothing to do with being a former bomber aircraft

[@throttleblipsntwistedgrips1992]

5:20. As a former resident and born Spokanite, the inclusion of the spokesman review headline is awesome!

[@charlieccuboston]

I absolutely love the graphics and 1950s period style imagery. This is a really high end video. I'm very very impressed!

[@jmi5969]

The first airplane I ever flew was the Tu-124 - a scaled-down and reengined 104. It was 1975 or 76, I was 8 years old and the main impression was - just how small the thing was, especially inside. Much smaller than a regular city bus. And, in retrospect, it wasn't much safer than the 104 - the 124s were grounded and written off along with the remaining 104s, in 1979-1980.

[@DavidAndersonKirk]

You were a pilot at 8 years old! No wonder these things crashed a lot

[@jmi5969]

@@DavidAndersonKirk That's why I already considered retiring then...

[@deltawarshipdelta8565]

I love those documentaries , the animation and the stories told are always so interesting to follow something you see very rarely in KZbin

[@amgluk]

Nice song, we sang it in the 60s. However, I had to fly the Tu-104 Lelingrad-Moscow several times in the mid-70s. This is considered a short route and was served by this aircraft. It has already been removed from long-distance routes. The plane seemed rather archaic to me until I had to fly from Moscow to Central Asia on an IL-18. This was a real vibration stand, although it had the most comfortable seats of anything I had to fly on.

[@tyronebenjamin6640]

Another great video. I really enjoy how you mix aviation history with aircraft design. Secondly, you are a great story teller!

[@SKNSV]

I flew a Tu-104. Huge engines power, comfortable interior and loud noise inside. As it took off, thunder was heard on the ground!

[@irisiris143]

:0

[@Blue-jn1ph]

Sure, that happened

[@detectivepigeon5938]

These graphics in combination with this quality and style of video is an absolute masterpiece every single time. Very impressive, I wish I could watch one every week

[@ndirangugichuki6260]

This was very interesting, the pilot who radioed back as he was experiencing that event, I salute him 🫡 !!

[@nodarikvatchantiradze7277]

I'm from a post Soviet county and I've actually heard some people using phrase going to the TU 104 as an euphemism for going to toilet, so I guess it didn't have all that great reputation here as well 😂

[@EmWe972]

where you from?

[@RpMTarTar]

@@EmWe972 Idk, maybe she/he is from Georgia, just assuming from the end of the last name.

[@indridcold8433]

The Canadians have a term when we mess up, "screwing the pooch." As attractive as that may sound to some, for the majority of us it means we messed up because we meant to make sweet love to our partners instead, unless, of course, your partner is a pooch. I guess then that is good for that microminority.

[@peepa47]

post soviet is a vague term

[@machupikachu1085]

@@indridcold8433 LOL I forgot about that term! My cousin earned the nickname 'Dogger' because he was always screwing the pooch.

[@ГеоргийМурзич]

Comparing to comet, there were twice as many 104s built. 25 serious accidents happened to the comet, 37 - with 104 which actually makes 104 a more reliable aircraft in terms of serious accidents per airplane

[@Frserthegreenengine]

Out of the 25 Comet crashes, 13 were fatal and most of them were caused by pilot error. Only 3 were as a result of metal fatigue or the structural problems. Tu-104 fatalities were significantly higher than those of the comet. Also the Soviets did not ground the aircraft unlike the British with the Comet. Instead the Soviets kept them in service and thus sent many innocent passengers to needless deaths. So much for claiming to be for the people, the Soviets didn't care about safety.

[@geo.m1639]

@@Frserthegreenengine’Pilot error’

[@carkawalakhatulistiwa]

​@@Frserthegreenengine😂pilot eror and bad training

[@machirim2805]

What the hell does accident rate per airplane have to do with the overall reliability and danger of an aircraft beyond being a mere statistic? The DC-10 had a lower hull loss rate than the Tu-104, yet was just as dangerous as a Tu-104, as both had major design flaws. It really does seem that logical fallacies (and especially whataboutism) are as natural to Russians as vodka.

[@annoyingbstard9407]

@@Frserthegreenengine. If “numbers killed” is how you like assessing aircraft then the Boing 747 is the most dangerous in history.

[@saalamin1869]

Safe or unsafe , Soviet engineering always fascinates me.

[@angela20377]

agreed

[@ikr9358]

It's kind of like "Here's the bare minimum of money and resources, build something that'll at least look good for a year or two."

[@kristoffer3000]

@@ikr9358 And last for 50.

[@ourfarmhouseinspain]

They certainly had some interesting, if impractical, designs. Corruption, overreaching ideas, poor research and development, political interference all combined to dilute all of them.

[@SPARTS3000]

Oh yes just ask the Polish!

[@davidlarry780]

Imagine we all worked together as HUMANS, sharing our best and brightest.

[@rb5174]

No jet engines for a start

[@derlaurenz]

Yaaaaay, you're back with a new one. I always get a little bit excited. Your videos are sooooo good.

[@Someone-ex7ok]

Always immediately click on a new Mustard video whenever I see one. I love the high quality.

[@onebravotango]

Fascinating glimpse into the strategic innovation of using existing technology to propel Soviet civil aviation into the jet age. A brilliant move by Tupolev, with both risks and rewards that shaped aviation history.

[@Pilot-2020]

Another high quality educating video, thanks to you I know more about the history of planes than I could ever imagine!

[@SobanAhmed]

I always look forward to your Videos Mustard. I work in the aviation industry and I always get excited when you post more informative content like this. Great Job ! its such a breathe of fresh air on KZbin.

[@sailintothesun3421]

I don't really care much for aviation - but Mustard has a way of making it come alive

[@chrisplunkett2814]

I remember seeing Aeroflot '104s landing at Gatwick in the 1970s and were the only civilian aircraft I'd seen that used a parachute to slow down.

[@Anodum]

The 104 is based on a military aircraft; when it was created, reverse to turbines had not yet been mastered. Issue 104 ceased in 1960.

[@arthurennimore-empties6709]

The French built Caravelle had a parachute that could be deployed to slow the aircraft down upon landing.

[@lzbhcvm6747]

Russian propaganda planes are never good

[@legatvsdecimvs3406]

The Tu-104 RD-3 turbojet engines were designed in the 1940's, engine thrust reversers only appeared on Soviet aircraft in the 1960's. The engine nacelles on the Tu-104 could not be modified for those(or was too much of a headache). Using a parachute shortened the landing from around 3,000 meters to around 1,600 meters without stressing the air brakes and landing gear brakes. It was also safer in some weather conditions and short runways.

[@brianw612]

The TU104 carried over 90 million passengers in it's career.

[@caribman10]

The Comet was no safer in its early years. Have to note the "bomber nose" which was a Soviet "thing' The Soviets were famous for flying routes over other countries that, well, might have included flying over militarily sensitive areas - and taking pictures . By the way, the Tu-104 was the first airliner in history to engage an engine airstart. Props to those CSA pilots!

[@joshgellis3292]

...although I too don't like Soviet era Russian history usually- I'm easily certain that the cold fact was, the heavily unsafe, original version(s) of the Comet actually was a load worse for killing more people a lot faster than the TU-104. The 104's original version robustness out the factory doors easily had to of played a role in it being a safer, practically still bad Soviet version Comet. 😬🤨🤮🤢☠

[@derludditus2758]

Oh, *that* De Havilland Comet in which structural fatigue due to an incredibly stupid oversight (improper riveting and square windows) killed 426? Yeah, that one.

[@johnatilljohnson1677]

@@joshgellis3292 YES! The only thing the Russians did wrong was not take the airline out of commission while they investigated the problems. But honestly, we need a companion video called "You wouldn't have wanted to fly in the first British jets".

[@hudsonk1racer]

Real talk, the Avro C102 was more than likely a safer plane than the comet, and it's a shame it lost to it.

[@larryjacobsen4079]

Yeah, I was wondering why they kept the bomber nose. My guess was for navigation.

[@davesherman74]

My family hosted a Russian exchange student in the 1990s, and his dad had a fairly lofty position in Aeroflot. He brought us some gifts, including some literature from Aeroflot boasting of their new navigation system that had an instrument in the aircraft pointing to the location of a radio beacon on the ground. Well, my dad's a pilot, and he chuckled that the Russians were praising their equivalent of an automatic direction finder (ADF), which was a fairly old technology in the U.S.A. by the 1990s.

[@hicknopunk]

Our 90s Russian student was a tax free, vodka smuggler 🤣

[@UWKS911]

At that time they've been using VOR, DME and RSBN (Soviet short range navigation system). And INS which was synchronized with RSBN. And of course ADF as you've stated earlier. ADF was the only navigation tool probably on some really small aircrafts.

[@DrWhom]

@@UWKS911 I hope your facts are sturdier than your grammar. "At that time they've been using" - you mean: would have been

[@UWKS911]

@@DrWhom sorry, English is not my native language. My Russian grammar is better)

[@jonnyd2008]

@@DrWhom “they’ve would have been”? If you’re going to correct someone (who’s first language isn’t English) at least get it right. “They would have been” Smug twat.

[@Williestyle-RobotechxMacross-x]

Mustard releasing a new video is just a good day. I am ao glad we can have this quality content here on KZbin. Thank you for a fun and detailed history on the first Tupolev passenger jetliner! (:

[@froggo-da-gamer]

I love how he starts his videos with get access to thousands of high quality shows and series. My man doesn't realize that the content he provides is the reason I signed up for curiosity stream. Keep it up.

[@ryanchong1648]

I modeled this plane for the last episode of The Queen's Gambit. It was only on screen for about a few seconds though.

[@DisasterBreakdown]

Amazing. I was unaware of this history with the 104. Cool video.

[@m.asquino7403]

I used to work in SW Asia and travelled back to the east coast of the US every few months. To save money, I travelled on a Aerflot flight to NYC through Prague. I'm not sure of the model of Tupulev passenger jet but when we finally landed in NY the plane broke out in applause and high fives. After looking at this video now I know why everyone was so happy we landed safely!

[@tubeescort]

I.iot, the same biased shit could be said towards any aircraft, especially any Boeing or DC-10. If we take unbiased look to safety records we will see the following: Tu-104 total number built - 205, 37 of them were lost in different accidents including hijacking; Boeing 707 number built - 865, 174 of them were lost in accidents. If you have any knowledge in simple arithmetic you will see that the safety record of Tu-104 even higher than its competitor.

[@robertbennett9949]

That is done regularly on Ryanair, to appreciate an on-time arrival.

[@robertbennett9949]

@@tubeescort Thank you for the refreshing objectivity. Certain people introduce McCarthyism inappropriately into aviation.

[@Ksiaz]

That (the applauses) still happens on regular basis in ex-Soviet countries and Eastern Europe...onboard Boeing, AIrbus and Embraer aircraft!

[@ntvypr4820]

@@tubeescort That's the Russian " we did it first and better' training they beat into all of you. Very little Russian tech is of their own self created inspiration. Russia through out the Cold War and ever since is a history of stolen plans, tech and other such nefarious deeds. Then they guessed at metallurgy and other strategic support points. Often they guessed WRONG and that was a big reason their stuff was literally suicidal self killers. the Russian penchant for theft could sometimes work to US advantage by making 'doctored' plans available and they literally killed themselves with it. Still their theft of plans, erroneous reverse engineering and actual Russkie tech was their own worst enemy.😄 P.S: Why does almost everything they've built look like a direct copy of something U.S. built?

[@mittthomson4977]

10:48 folk song had next line after 'the grave': "you had to go by train"

[@Calebs_Aviation]

Finally a video on the Tupolev TU-104 I’ve been waiting for this video ever since the De Havilland Comet and Concorde videos! Yay 😃

[@jeromewagschal9485]

I remember taking a trip in the Soviet Union in 1984 from St.Petersburg ( Leningrad back then ) to Moscow to Kiev and then Odessa... The one thing that struck me were the planes we flew on between cities : They were loud, not very comfortable and they all had glass noses which I found unique to say the least... Great video 🙂🙂🙂

[@Sergei-wf1jp]

In the glass nose, there was a (comfortable) seat for the navigator, one of the then 4 flight crew members.

[@jeromewagschal9485]

@@Sergei-wf1jp I see... Thanks for that explanation 🙂🙂

[@mowtow90]

@@Sergei-wf1jp Not only. It was a rement from TU-4 the soviet copy of the B-29 that crashed in USSR during the war. They really liked the idea of it. On the airliner it had a secondary function during the cold war. The soivets tended to fly airliners over restricted areas and the navigator doubled as photographer. I think it caused a few political incidents in the early 70ties.

[@dmitripogosian5084]

@@mowtow90 You mean they photographed restricted zones in USSR ? :)

[@w_tscher]

Well about re-designing, Tu-134 is actually seriously re-designed Tu-104 (actuly it's redesign of redesign - Tu-104 was converted into Tu-124 (less capacity and already safer) which was converted into Tu-134). And Tu-134 is hella good.

[@eggstatus5824]

Then during the rise of jet airliners, Boeing said "hold my beer" and nailed it on their first try with the Boeing 707

[@dannydevito5729]

Those first two (crews) pilots sure took the passengers on a hell of a ride

[@marcusdamberger]

I bet those first jetliner passengers said "Never again in my life will I board a jet or anything to do with Tupolev", "Cant get me near one of those things ever again!"

[@restautama]

I wonder if someday Mustard will make a documentary about Airbus Beluga. Another iconic plane alongside the giants An-124 and the late An-225

[@gabrielaldworth7476]

It's always a good day when Mustard uploads

[@Qonvex]

love aeroflot, last time i flew with one they had the absolute nicest brand new plane's with the best service and food, plus they gave you an actual metal fork haha love it. oh and the pilot was absolute world class, no heavy touchdown or anything when landing. smooth as butter.

[@GooseGumlizzard]

and the flight attendants were hot

[@CrippedGinge]

Fantastic video about a plane I didn't know of from a channel I hadn't seen before. Brilliantly put together video of a really high quality. Well done.

[@PavloLukashuk]

04:04.....that's right, ready-made structural solutions from the Tu16 were used in the civilian Tu104/106 aircraft. But in addition, civilian pilots could immediately transfer to the military Tu16 in case of war. In general, it was a program in USSR that allowed not to train military pilots separately! This is how the Military An26 and the civilian An-24 appeared. An12 and civilian An10. Tu-95 and civilian Tu-114.

[@DougGann]

Truly the days of Scareoflot. That said, the Ilyushin Il-86 was one of the coolest airliners I've ever flown on, and the in-flight glass cockpit tour reminds one of why the Soyuz capsule remains the best and most reliable spacecraft ever built.

[@Ksiaz]

If the aircraft you were on had a glass cockpit, it must have been an IL-96, not an -86! But I agree with you about the Soyuz!

[@kantraa]

203 design flaws and you still say that the Soyuz was the best spacecraft ever.

[@simonjones7727]

The story of The Comet is sad, so innovative in many ways, but is was the 707 "Water Wagon" that won the day. I think the West adapted military designs too. If you were to travel on a V-Bomber to New York with Joan Collins and David Frost strapped in next to you then you were basically replicating the Concorde experience (in essentials, anyway)

[@r12004rewy]

The 104 wasn't a bad looking aircraft considering it's origins. Vaguely remember seeing them at London Heathrow airport.

[@GarrettLamer]

Fantastic work - very informative! I love learning about the early jet airliners - those who designed and flew them were pioneers in many ways. Just a quick note - on the map of the Tu-104's first transatlantic voyage to the United States, you have Gander, Newfoundland, mislabeled as Goose Bay AB (also in the province of Newfoundland in Labrador, but on the mainland portion, called Labrador, some 600 kilometers away). Cheers!

[@angelarch5352]

2:45 haha, love seeing Tupolev's ID card signed by Comrade Mustard :D

[@Maddogg-hg5me]

Very interesting video. The Tu-104 was just like the Comet: the lessons learned when design flaws turned the planes into flying deathtraps helped teach other aircraft manufacturers valuable lessons that turned passenger jets into a safe, efficient method of travel. People can make fun of DeHavilland and Tupolev all they want but you do have to admire the risks they took to try to push air travel into the future and they've earned their places in history.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

The Tu-104 had its problems but you cannot compare it to the unmitigated failure and disaster of the de Havilland Comet. The Comet Disaster was a tragedy that could have been easily prevented if de Havilland had simply followed well-known and understood industry standard for building pressurized cabins made from riveted aluminum alloys. The Comet remains the worst example of engineering incompetence in commercial aviation history and a truly shameful and humiliating chapter in British history.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

The only lesson learned by the Comet Disaster is that manufacturers could not longer be trusted to conduct their own aircraft crash investigations. The first successful airworthy jet airliner is the Boeing 707 series which flew on July 15th 1954, before anyone (including de Havilland) knew why the Comet exploded in mid-air.

[@ricardopereira2746]

My god, that song almost killed me...of laughter. :) Who said Soviets didn't have sense of humour?

[@sunnyland3952]

they had a million jokes about communism too. For instance this one, shortened. Two men talking - We've just opened a cabaret and we've managed to employ a superb dancer! -So, what's her qualifications? -She has had a party book for forty years! And another. Two people had died and met in front of the gate to hell. One was a communist, the other a capitalist. Before them they saw two doors, one marked communist hell, and the other, capitalist hell. What shall we do? said the capitalist. After a moment, the communist said, let's go to the communist hell. Either the furnace doesn't work, or they're out of fuel --- or if perchance the furnace works and fuel is available, they'll have run out of matches!

[@HendrikPlukaard]

There are numerous fantastic Russian aircrafts built. Most of them I've flown in. Especially the Yak 40, which was very spacious and strong. A malfunctioning de-icing unit at Sheremetyevo caused the nose wheel to get stuck in a non-aligned position and when the plane landed it shot right off the runway into the snow mountain next to the strip. My company refused to fly that particular charter plane unless it was recertified by a Canadian inspection team. They couldn't find anything wrong or damaged so it stayed in service. Mind you, that snow was what was buldozered off the landing strip and rather compact and the speed the plane dove into it was over 80 miles per hour. Only the part behind the wings remained visible. No problem, the exit is in the rear end of the plane and the air crew didn't blink an eye, business as usual.

[@shatterquartz]

7:18 "Pilots were so afraid of Stalin--I mean stalling"

[@jdee8267]

Excellent documentary, no wastage and straight to the point. Thank you.

[@bother9732]

As usual an incredible video of a very interesting topic. A cool topic I thought of would be the tu-22 a very interesting bomber (like the tu144 of the air force) The last 2 videos I’ve gotten a like from Mr. Mustard going for 3!

[@MustardChannel]

Here you go :)

[@panamericanworldairways5618]

paper skies has a really good video about the tu22 if you like mustard you will definitely like his channel

[@adventure9119]

Always a beautiful day when Mustard uploads

[@jordyhsiao5568]

As always, lovely content. It never gets boring.

[@remmingtoncruzoe8282]

In Poland we used to call Tupolev planes "Trupolew" (a play on the word "trup" meaning 'deadman') :D

[@fulconelis]

Great vid!! Really interesting topic, but also really happy to finally hear a release date for your video on the B2-Spirit. Bought a Nebula subscription, almost solely for that reason earlier this year. Props to you Mustard for your effort you put into these videos.

[@MustardChannel]

Thank you! The B-2 expanded in scope a tad bit.. but it will be worth it I hope :)

[@AussieDaz87]

@@MustardChannel Can't wait to see it!

[@midcenturymodern9330]

I flew on Aeroflot Airlines back in 1986. I was a teenager back then. For in-flight meal they served us cold baked potatoes with raisins. Yes. That. Not a typo. The only free available beverage was carbonated water. If you wanted vodka, you had to pay for it with cash. (US dollars strongly preferred) Dear Lord! It was an experience of a lifetime. *Not a particularly good one.

[@Bonzi_Buddy]

Did you go to Poland or pull a Bernie Sanders and honeymoon in the USSR when they were still an enemy of the USA? I guess there were some cheap flights on their risky panes to Asian countries from International airports too. Interesting you flew them in that era.... crazy stuff.

[@wildtravel1440]

I flew on Aeroflot Airlines many times within Russia and service was pretty good. Cold baked potatoes with raisins ? Most likely caviar on rye bread with batter .

[@sunnyland3952]

Reminds me of transiting in Moscow (sorry, Moskva!) in 1978. A fine restaurant in a main street had a long, good menu - but only two or three dishes were actually available. And the food was okayish, but not especially good. And in a bank I was surprised to find sloping, high desks for writing (standing, of course), equipped with wads of thick, brown, coarse paper - and steel tipped pens in ink pots! Sorry Moskva, I enjoyed my brief visit. There was a good, friendly atmospere, and a few people willing to talk a little. Perhaps secret police. The police had picked me up at the station (arriving from Helsinki), and would bring me to the departure railway station (for Teheran) - but they never turned up and I had to take a taxi or I would have missed the train. Arriving at the border (from Helsinki) they told me that my hunting knife was not permitted - and put it back and let me keep it! The brand new shopping centre was surprisingly small, but the marvellous Church on the Red Square (St. Basil's Cathedral) was something very special inside, with a deep warm feeling of God's presence. The train journey to Teheran took seven days, instead of the scheduled six, but it was a nice time too, with friendly people, peaceful and quiet.

[@slavasandsglam]

Sounds surrealistic. When I fly inside the europe I miss russian airlines service and very tasty onboard food... The meals are always delicious and every time I cant wait to taste it again sitting by the window and filling like a child ))

[@bernarddavis1050]

Sounds like a petty healthy meal actually - certainly better than what you get nowadays (if you get anything at all).

[@kayliibensen387]

Despite the many shortcomings this plane is still beautiful. Wonderful video Mustard, it's always a treat when you release content! The quality is always top notch! The accident rate is just atrocious. There has to be such unbelievable disregard for safety for authorities to allow that many hull loss incidents without permanently grounding the fleet.

[@andriyandreyko8177]

Mentioning the song about T-104 made me laugh! As schoolboy in 1989th U.S.S.R., I used to sing it!

[@johnmarsh2078]

I once travelled on an Aeroflot "narrow body" Tupolev from Moscow to Tashkent. I'd swear they'd just put wings and jet engines on a single decker bus. It was cramped and landed in a weave. I thought that the pilot was just avoiding potholes in the runway ...... Tashkent International Airport was still in the Stone Age. I remember kissing the ground. Especially as I realised we had just flown over Afghanistan .... in 1991!

[@dpm2937]

I guess there is no word for safety in russian?

[@ZAFODBIBLBROKS1]

take a map and see where Moscow, Tashkent and Afghanistan are located. Both Moscow and Tashkent are located NORTH OF Afghanistan. That is, when flying from Moscow to Tashkent, you could not have been over Afghanistan in principle. You might as well write that you flew over Paris when flying from Glasgow to London. Conclusion: you are not only a liar, but also a fool.

[@andyc9902]

Looks like you had fun times

[@DownOnTheWestCoastLA]

@@dpm2937 it's безопасность 🙄

[@iowasucks9494]

@@DownOnTheWestCoastLA i guess theres no word for expression in russian?

[@KD-469]

dude every time you make a video about old Soviet technology its better then the last one Good job on this one!

[@ralphgreenjr.2466]

The first two times I went to Budapest, Hungary, I flew Aeroflot. Tupalovs are affectionately known as "Lawn Darts." Take off is a hoot and will pin you in your seat, the cabin is small, and the trip is fast, very fast. Luckley I can not verify the lawn dart nickname.

[@Bird_Dog00]

11:03 NGL. The TU-104 looks really f-ing great from the front.

[@lizzydancess]

10:58 got me laughing so hard lmao especially since i speak russian as my parents immigrated from the soviet union to canada

[@mikhailiagacesa3406]

I wonder why the Soviets didn't develop a long range passenger plane from the Pe-8. It seemed capable.

[@dren4k]

well theyve developed tu114

[@angusclark8330]

Irregular emigration. Prevention thereof.

[@angusclark8330]

Maybe they had taken notice of the British attempts to reboot the Lancaster - in particular - as a transatlantic passenger plane, with dismal results. Stalin was terrified of flying and the only time he was recorded as having flown any distance was in a Pe- 8 to the Tehran conference.The plane hadn't been modified, and he sat strapped into the radio operator's office all the way. Sunderlands had a better return to civilian life, but they began as empire flying boats. If only... Nice thought, though, Pe- 8s landing at Heathrow next to Swedish and Swiss Condors, with Stratocruisers due and Tudors being towed away for scrap.

[@carkawalakhatulistiwa]

Tu 114

[@mikhailiagacesa3406]

@@dren4k Pe-8 available significantly earlier.