Was Yogi Bhajan A Fraud? A KY Teacher's Personal Experience

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[@singh-tk1pv]

Yogi BhajAn said very clear "Do not follow me, follow the teachings" and he also said "Do not look for the master, become the master" so this sumarizes well your point.

[@robingram1927]

it's a copout. not to say the teachings of kundalini yoga are useless, but people must be held accountable. it's important for people to know this stuff, i think. and for the victims to be heard.

[@frack989]

Most teachers who want you to follow them and idolize them (and buy them 10 Gold Rolls Royces) know enough to say "Do not follow me, follow the teachings"... what matters is whether they mean it

[@JoelJacobson1777]

The message is not "Who Cares", but actually... to be CAREFUL!

[@ravinamsingh]

ALL MY ENCOUNTERS WITH YOGI BHAJAN OVER A A PERIOD OF 30 YEARS, WERE SO MAGICAL, i WAS READING CARLOS CASTANEDA BEFORE i MET HIM, AND TO ME IT WAS A MANIFESTATION OF A DON JUAN IN MY LIFE, EVERY SINGLE TIME, THE MAGIC WAS THERE, ANYTIME I SAW HIM SOMETHING EXTRAORDINARY HAPPENED, ALWAYS, I CAN TELL STORIES ALL DAY LONG, WEATHER HE MADE MISTAKES OR NOT; ITS NOT FOR ME TO JUDGE, iF THEY HAPPENED , i WASNT THERE, AS OF THE TECHNOLOGY, WHEN I DO IT, IT WORKS, WHEN I DONT DO IT, THE BENEFITS GO AWAY. HE NEVER TRYED TO MESS ME UP, ON THE CONTRARY, HE WAS DIFFERENT WITH EVERYONE THOUGH, THAT WAS A MISTERY TO ME, BUT HE WOULD SEE THING THAT NO ONE ELSE COULD. ONE DAY I WAS CLEANING A BED I WAS ABOUT TO SPRAY IN A BRASS BED BUSINESS THE INSTITUTION HAD, AND I WAS THINKING, "I WISHED HE CALLED ME" NEXT DAY WHEN I ARRIVED AT WORK, THEY CALL ME TO THE OFFICE AND SAID "YOGI BHAJAN JUST CALLED YOU, HE SAID FOR YOU TO GO O HIS LECTURE TONIGHT" AND STORIES LIKE THAT, WERE ALWAYS THERE, I HAVE MADE MISTAKES TOO, SO, WHY SHOULD I JUDGE?

[@annacsillag7247]

@@ravinamsingh do you know about Castaneda, truly? Read Salon magazine's article on him, if you haven't already.

[@BM-ht9xk]

@@ravinamsingh feel more of the magic .. www.yogajournal.com/yoga-101/abuse-in-kundalini-yoga

[@alexemil1011]

Kundalini yoga ( as taught by Yogi Bhajan ) has changed my life, and healed me in many ways. The technology, the teachings, endures as a real legacy... The person, the human, is never going to live up to our expectations of what a Teacher should be. Who knows if I would have stayed with it if I had met YB himself. And if I had heard stories of abuse or rape, before having so many profound experiences, I might have walked away. I was never interested in Bikram yoga, but when I heard him accused of rape, I thought, I'll never step into a class. Same with Anusara yoga. But I experienced so much before I heard stories of Yogi Bhajan that it was too late, in a way. The teachings had spoken for themselves. There were a few comments about Gurmukhi on here which surprised me. I don't think of it as misapropriation if YB shared these mantras and shabds within his classes and teachings. They are powerful tools, worthy of respect and deep appreciation, and they are coming from the Sikh tradition, but I don't think its harming anyone if you're chanting them with the reverence they deserve. And you're probably not understanding them with reverence until you've practiced them and felt their power... If they were simply a gift to Indians, or just to Sikhs that would be one thing, but gifts or tools or technology such as these mantras are gifts to humanity, beyond race and culture, in my opinion.

[@NeutrinoAstrology]

Sat Nam, This is an update to this video as I just read Pamela (Premka's) Dyer’s book this weekend. When I recorded this video no-one had come forward with allegations towards Yogi Bhajan. Please do not take my message as a lack of compassion towards the "victims". My message is NOT to allow the EGO to come in and "throw the baby out with the bathwater". Do not confuse the messenger (Teacher) with the teachings. I often see people do this falling victim to the EGO. Reading the comments below many of you get this. If you want to know a bit more on this subject -check out my other 2 videos - One about Bikram kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWmmkIinqpWcqJY& And the other about How the Teacher - Student Relationship needs to change for the Aquarian Age kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmi0k6h6atShrq8

[@velvetphillipssullivan2697]

I have asked many of these questions and through my disciplined practice I have come to a lot of the same conclusions. You have done a great job of putting words to my struggle. I will share this with my students. This technology has saved my soul. I am dedicated to it. It has proven itself. Thanks again for sharing your wisdom!

[@taramorrison9509]

While I agree with the essence of your message, to say ‘who cares’ regarding the abuse isn’t overly compassionate toward those who actually experienced the abuse. We should care about that. And it’s not just sexual abuse. There are also allegations of manipulation and financial greed. But to me the most ‘damning’ is the dishonesty around his yoga lineage. If you (anyone reading this) haven’t read the scholarly article ‘from maharaj to Mahan tantric’ I invite you to do so. It’s easy to find online and free to read. But even knowing all of this, after 10 years of practicing this technology, I took the teacher training. What it came down to for me is that efficacious teachings can still come through very flawed individuals.. and the proof is as they say.. in the pudding. I wanted to grow further in this style of yoga and pass it onto others, because I’ve seen and experienced how healing it can be. I don’t agree with all of YB’s teachings, nor do I consider him my guru simply because I teach this style of yoga. The Sikh portion of things don’t really resonate for me either. But I love the technology and how it simply *works*. Plus I’m an Aquarian and a 5 in tantric numerology, so I had to! Lol But I think the truth will *all* come out, the Age demands it. Thanks for starting such a pertinent (and timely! On a new moon in Aries) dialogue :)

[@mariquitaphilippadeboissie9434]

"While I agree with the essence of your message, to say ‘who cares’ regarding the abuse isn’t overly compassionate toward those who actually experienced the abuse. We should care about that." Thank you for saying this

[@rubycrystal1]

Kinda cool that this is all over a year ago... can you believe how much more this has all come out now, it's totally undeniable now!

[@amaninders]

What exactly are you referring to the sikh portion?

[@tulabean2297]

@@amaninders All of it was a fraud, the school in India, the yoga, the lineage, etc.

[@amaninders]

Yogi bhajan is not ambassador of sikh religion.

[@ValindaYoga]

Thank-you for sharing your story, I too have been on this path for 18 years and have completed all my Level 2's now! I feel the same! Sat Nam

[@devsuroop]

Wow! Especially timely for the moment! I appreciate your clarity and your words and am delighted to hear your voice again. I remember you from 10 plus years ago. Thank you for this video and message.

[@LuNuevayogaymasaje]

This is great. Thank you so much! I had a bad experience with a level one teacher trainer when he made me a personal reading. He lead me to do things that were not right and I ended with a lot of anger. But I understood the anger was at myself for asking him this reading and paying someone to decide for myself in my own life! I love when you say we have to trust our own master inside and become a spiritual adult now. Sat Nam

[@sahej6939]

I feel you on this! i took a bad job that I wish i had not, and I got stuck will all types of inner anger.

[@whwill56]

This is Bill’s wife Debbie. I completely relate to what you are saying. I feel a connection to what you experienced. Thank you for you honesty. I’ve been doing the Sat Nam video you put out everyday. I’m trying to learn. I crave it so greatly. I too feel everyone’s energy. I too have trust myself and others. I really like you. I have had many spiritual experiences but feel so lost right now like I’m floating in space. Since doing Sat Nam I’ve become depressed, anxious and controlling. My husband is very frustrated with me. I don’t know what’s going on. I have no idea if my kundalini rose years ago or if it didn’t. I have such a deep desire to free my kundalini energy. I believe I was born believing in G-d. I’ve always been spiritual and extremely sensitive. I’m definitely an empath. I really don’t like crowds and am a loner. I don’t feel like I fit in; I’m so emotional. I have a lot of sadness and tremendous anxiety but I always feel G-d around me. He and Archangel Raphael love me so much; they watch out for me. They don’t take my pain away though. They allow me to go through my life by giving me the space to do so 🙏❤️

[@mustangally1]

I love history and art. If I ever discovered that my art teacher was a murderer or my history teacher was a pervert, then I would still continue to love art and history, but just not the two teachers.

[@danielgriego518]

mustangally ditto

[@laurabradford7136]

I just heard a few days ago about the allegations in the book by Premka against Yogi Bhajan. I am a Kundalini KRI Level 1 teacher and have been doing the practices for close to 10 years after decades of Hatha Yoga practice. Your video is a couple of years old and yet spoke directly to what I'm going through right now. I'm still in the emotional reaction phase that you went through at first. I even ordered her book to read for myself. 3 of my teachers were with Yogi Bhajan at the same time as this woman, but I don't feel that I should reach out to them at this time. I did reach out to the local Kundalini studio owner who is planning a meeting of teachers to discuss all this. She reminded me that it's the practice and not the teacher, but that sounds to me like a pat or safe answer to a larger question. I plan to return to my sadhana practice today and see what comes up. Thank you for your perspective - it is just what I needed to hear.

[@rubycrystal1]

All of us teachers in our community are going through this too, it's rough, but in a way freeing.

[@rosamaria713]

I have about 20 years around this spiritual practice s of Kundalini yoga...all groups of religion and spiritual teachers Have skeletos inside their closets. It's the first time, I have heard about the yogi Bhakan...thank you for the information...my eyes are wide open, for the stupid mistake . The great thing about me is that I am a free spirit, that I don't fallow any human being. Bless all of you...

[@jeneehalstead]

I found your video last year when I had just found KY and had heard these allegations. I went through a dark night of the soul and meditated on what I should do for a week. When I found your video it really helped me get clear. KY has saved my life and brought be nothing but immense gifts.

[@SuzanneMcDerrmott]

PS OMG This is one of THE best talks you've ever given. Or maybe I just really needed to hear this right now (keeping with the perfection of synchronicity et al). I just transcribed most of "A teacher's not a teacher... till almost the end." I'm going to print it out and keep it somewhere close as a reminder. With full credit to yourself, of course. More thanks. Must sleep now and let it all sink in.

[@StephKinzer]

"Whatever person we build up we will eventually pull down " its like the yin/yang. Thank you, this helped me a lot to process it

[@naadout]

Thank you; this helped a lot. As a teacher, I have been struggling with how to accept all the new negative information coming in re: YB and wondering how I would manage to continue teaching, what I know from my own experience, to be a safe and effective way to be well. You have clearly steered me right back to me, where the teachings reside now and it is I, among many, who will continue to share KY and chanting for the purpose of helping others to access themselves more effectively and efficiently. Thank you, Naad Kaur

[@rubycrystal1]

Well said, I feel the same, -Shakti Devi

[@lindamiklos4964]

Same here sisters.❤🙏

[@skyerichards4906]

Your word are very simple, honest and truthful. It is important not to get hung up on words from a messenger but is important to observe there affect on us. Let them wash over you. Some will feel clean and some won't. Is that the fault of the word or just the words affect on you. There are a great many teachers out there: in many forms, of many customs, of many schools of thought. What I feel is that when you find a practice, teaching method, philosophy, church, lover, or whomever/whatever that can reflect you back honestly and you are ready to hear the message and respond instead of reacting you will not shoot the messenger, but hear the message and grow. If you find a vibrational frequency to resonate with your own heart centre and then allow it to energize what is stuck and shatter the illusion that keeps you small you will get brighter. We all understand when we are ready, and honestly there are a great many people on the planet still held back by the vibrational traumas of their early life, but I also know that all it takes is the right word one day allow the energy to shift and the dam to break. Have faith that your river is strong and will break through all of the debris and reach the ocean where it can mingle in the one truth.

[@cynthiawells2744]

A year later with all the stories which have come out with Premka's book ...?

[@MrKoukouroukoukou]

Satnam, I started practicing kundalini yoga two years before it came out in France. KY brings me so much, when I read about Y. Bhajan I felt that I put my energy in the wrong basket. But it took me two days to realize that has nothing to do with myself. I try to be very cautious about my masters. Masters are humans being no angels they carry a message that was clear to me. I’m very attached to the teachings now more than ever. Each one of us has to make the experience not to juge but to be elevated Wahe Gurū

[@nocturneofthelight7644]

Beautifully said, the teaching is the most important thing, nobody knows what's really happened.. this the time we should help each other, hold each other and walk side by side towards peace Sat Nam 💚🌈💫

[@Bladerunner5434]

I knew YB personally and I agree with you 100%. As he said"don't love me love the teachings".No one in my experience has changed more than I have as a result of practicing KY. It's that simple. Each person will process all of this in their own way but I went from the darkness to the light because of him.That is the only true measure of a teacher. Sat Nam.

[@chelseadonae8130]

Resonate deeply 🙏💗Sat Nam

[@claremurphy777]

Wow. Thank you. Such a considered and brilliant answer! I've just discovered kundalini yoga eight months ago.. Practicing at home...and i love it too.☘🌎🐘💚

[@ValindaYoga]

This is so brilliant! Thank you so true!

[@patrickdelzell4477]

Sat Nam,, Iv'e experienced this duality in many facets of my life, thinking iv'e been let down. Every time I practice the divine teacher with in, and realize everything is going to unfold the way its supposed to,, no madder what is going on around me, i can be still and cary the example of the kundalini teachings/ practice. Carrying the energy of Love and sharing my gift / talent to this age. When I was first introduced to Yogi Bhajan, I felt my teacher was putting to much stock in a person, i admire and love my teacher, Thank you, You have helped me realize that love transcends in spirituality, We are perfectly flawed as humans.

[@johngrahamwilson1649]

Glad to see so many people are asking questions about Bhajan and that there may soon be a balanced reappraisal.

[@Shaphirstars]

I am neutral on this subject as my family left 3H0 in 1976 when I was 4. My father and mother were with YB from 1969-1976. There was a reason they left. That reason was not something that either felt comfortable "exposing" or "dragging someone through the mud" or "throwing rocks at glass houses" However my parents divorced within 1-2 years and from what stories experiences they did share, "the humanity of YB" as you so eloquently put, the allegations do not surprise me. Their experiences are not mine to tell. My mom passed away and my father expresses much of what you say. He chooses to focus on the tools and technology, which he took and created MEM Gong Yoga of Holistic Resonance because he purposely wanted to create a yoga that changed the focus of the guru from someone exterior- to the guru within. He specifically chose to spend his life sharing the Gong as the Holistically Resonant Instrument that aids students to self assess to become Kriya Design Scientists. He never wanted to become a guru because guru's succumb to the influence of power. He is now 86, continues to teach, remains humble and wants to honor the KY people who still choose to honor YB and KY as well as to honor the people whose experiences with YB and KY were challenging, immoral, unethical, illegal, etc. I found your video so well worded and expressed. Thank you. In so far as the argument that YB "made it up" - from my exterior observations it appears he took from many sources/teachers/methods and created, "like an alloy/amalgam" with mythology/story/etc- the KY that was presented. Thats what it looks like. The idea of throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Thanks again. Loved your answer.

[@NeutrinoAstrology]

Sat Nam, Thank you for your thoughtful share Yaelle!

[@alchemicalfire5699]

WOW. This is your most powerful video yet. Thank you

[@alchemicalfire5699]

And just to share a bit of my experience with these teachings....being honest and putting it all out there for the whole world to see...these teachings completely changed the direction of my life. There’s my life before and there’s my life after. It’s distinct. In the beginning, my ego couldn’t accept that everyone on this path, including YB, are HUMAN. Humans make mistakes. But I wanted to believe that if someone has chosen this path and done it long enough that they are perfect. They always make the right choices and do the right things. Always. As you can imagine, this led to a lot of confusion and let down for many years. Including letting myself down. And a hyper perfectionistic expectation in my own behavior that led to me drawing in some behavior from people that was quite out of alignment. Because I was out of alignment with myself. We all get what we need when we need it 🙏 Now things have softened quite a bit. I had the same realization: if YB did do things that were out of integrity, it doesn’t diminish how much Kundalini Yoga has changed my life. So who really cares? I also agree that YB’s teachings on relationships are a bit too rigid for me. In addition to other things he taught. But I respect him deeply and from time to time, he visits me in my dream state to deliver a message. I deeply appreciate all of it ❤️

[@laurieellicott7264]

Thank you for this video, it put to words what I first became aware of people whose words did not always align to their actions. When I was younger I really struggled with this, part of me wanting to crucify and reject, yet a quieter part acknowledged the positive sides of the person in a leadership role. There are a lot of people who feel lost, find someone to follow then feel even more lost and angry, etc., when the leader turns out to be flawed, in small or large ways. I have learned to listen with my heart as well as my eyes, to quietly observe and check with my intuition. Others may have tools and skills which can help you on your way, and you may collect them with gratitude, but the compass is always within. I will listen to this again because there are some gems I wish to add to my collection. 💚

[@Jim-iw1yd]

Caution... That is my experience of spiritual teachers. I always approach with caution... and a polite smile. I've used this as an excuse long enough not to get involved fully with spirituality and know I will now go "with in"... I sense that is the thing to do .

[@Julieyoga333]

you such a blessing loved this!

[@lg2971]

Via my morning practice today, I received the information you communicated about becoming one's own Master. Then, I found this video in my KZbin feed. Thank you ❤

[@RiniSharmakoolest]

Love you for this!

[@Richard-yw9mf]

Excellent, honest, beautiful video on this important subject. Thank you!

[@ItsLindaMichelle]

I need this video today. Thank you

[@sacredashtherapies]

Thanks for making this video and sharing so openly on the subject, indeed 'who cares' when the experience of the technology speaks for itself and for all to try for themselves.

[@10minuteyoga4u]

This is so true. Thank you ❤

[@thepowerwithinuscouk]

Thank you so much for this, I have always had a bit of a struggle with spiritual teachers, and as I'm currently taking my kundalini yoga teacher training this came as a beautiful perspective . Thank you so much for all your videos , around 4 years ago I did my first kundalini meditation with one of your videos haha I will actually comment on that also. Sat Nam :D

[@SB-iz8sz]

Thank you for helping me through this time of uncertainty. I will continue my practice with faith. I do have immense feeling of sadness for the people that have been hurt. We are all on our own separate journeys. I wish the best for all the people that have been harmed and they have the strength to heal and take care of themselves. Sat Nam🙏

[@dragontypetrainerlevi8451]

My real kicker was when i saw my teacher deffending the toxic qualitys of other more public teachers and then relaised their defending their own toxicity reflecting through others. the thing ive noticed about authenticity is that when your in it you piss alot of people off but thats ok because those are the people who are most likely inauthentic to themselfs and their suffering will continue but yours only happens when you allow your self to cloud your judgment and decision making

[@shawnettesmart109]

I really loved your talk and I am surprised you produced it two years ago. Do you feel any differently now?

[@NeutrinoAstrology]

Sat Nam, I just came back to this video as I am hearing about more KY Teachers going through their own healing process around Yogi Bhajan. As of Feb 11, 2021 - I stand behind these words. (But I would have added my pinned comment found above.)

[@danielgriego518]

I resonated so much with this Ji. Thank you. Sat nam.

[@erinlayton3511]

I cant thank you enough !!!!Today my first day at kundalini teacher training.Its been my dream ..Bless you ❤💚💜💙💛😍

[@Melinititi]

Thank you. Blessings.

[@tpriestess]

I am enjoying my discovery of your channel and the message today....as have I deeply enjoyed and benefitted from the kundalini yoga practices. I find that when we are feeling most lost, devastated, and confused that we are most open to spiritual teachings. So it is a beautiful time...and a very vulnerable time. We all need to be careful with ourselves and others especially during these times. I believe we are all capable to create our own 'technologies' and meditations. And it is fun and natural to do so. I also love and find great value in all the ones I have come into contact with through Yogi Bhajan. Thanks for your message.

[@yogakundalini1953]

You are so right! thanks

[@Julieyoga333]

dismiss the message by shooting the messenger!!! love it.. love YB and his teachings, technologies.. THANK you!!!!

[@MinhSen11]

I love this lecture so much and it makes more sense now in the present 2020 brouhaha.

[@ursulac.wilson5188]

thank you for your honesty

[@chrismchale6759]

Said beautifully. So true. Too many people are 'searching' for God or The Truth. I love your comment "spiritual laziness". Too many people are giving their power ball away to other so called spiritual teachers. Some of these teachers, I believe work from ego and power, this is not 'the truth'. They are just reiterating their perception of God, often making a lot of money in the process. It's simple to me we speak to God through prayer and we listen to God through silence. It does take hard work and trust and faith but when you work through God, God works through you. Namaste

[@AnatmanTV]

Gratitude !🙂

[@saoirse108]

again... thank you for your openness and reflections. Being a KY of 20+ years I still remember that those subjects almost drove me away from KY community. Same conclusion. Love the teachings, not the teacher. Reflect on the teachings with every breath. Just plain admirations and acceptance may look like surrender and is not. Wahey Guru x

[@natatattful]

What do you think of Nithyananda yoga and rope yoga? I found a website and a channel that claims the oldest form of kundalini yoga is this type. I’m really trying to heal severe trauma, ocd, bpd, and phobias. My body and mind are completely a mess and I want to start with my intuition; something about the rope yoga (the feminine) and this idea of the oldest technology being the most effective is appealing but I am weary of anything that seems like a cult.

[@kathleenbrady9916]

Appreciate this video and the importance of taking responsibility for one's spiritual path. Am very attracted to Kriya Yoga and even though I've only been practising it for a short time, I can already notice differences in myself. I will need to walk tentatively and wisely in this organisation.

[@omid5677]

thank you so much , I was looking for your answer , thank you so much

[@mulangira79]

I really appreciate you message here. It is valuable for people to hear. From my experience, Kundalini Yoga and Meditation has taught me to listen for my inner teacher through the external experience of reality. I see it as learning the language your soul speaks. When one can identify that language the spiritual teacher is always present in every moment. So I am grateful for this technology Yogiji shared with us because I can now discern the Truth in all things. When I teach I am only addressing the most high. When I listen I listen for the most high. When I learn I learn from the most high. Yogiji was not perfect but the God in him was, as is the God in all things. What he did when he fell from grace is not what I look for from him. That is not my relationship to him. My relationship with him was only with what is of value in my life. Ideally, I would maintain this relationship with all the elements of this reality but also I am human and I can fumble in life.

[@CoachGreg]

Great video, you speak many truths with your pointings. Thank you so much, namaste!

[@Cominthroughlikeazoo]

Sat Nam! Great video! EK ONG KAR SAT NAM SIRI WHAHEY GURU (long ek ong kars) saved my life! These mantras work!

[@lightwithin8431]

Thank you for this much needed video and your honest, direct and pragmatic approach. This confirmed my feeling about the recent allegations coming out about yogi bhajan. I am a kundalini yoga teacher myself and very grateful for yogi bhajan‘s teachings that transformed my life and brought me so much healing. Whatever he did this will not alter the effectiveness of those tools so needed in this age. Grateful to be on this path and for sharing your perspective. Very helpful 🙏😊 sat naam

[@cwsinrealease]

Wow 🥳 Sat Nam ! So True 💎! Thank you! By the way , just love your funna posts on Fb😂

[@simranjitsingh8551]

Hello Brother ! Look at it like this - Bruce Lee taught martial arts and used it as a instrument to be in-tune with his higher-self. He has the ability and could heal emotional trauma of his student though his art-form. He found a way to use martial arts (outer physical thing) to reach a state of high-inner-awareness (inner thing). Now what if, Lee decided to started a cult, a "cult of personality" in specific - Declared that ancient master-kitchen-chefs visited him in his mental-training-state and told him that cooking was always a part of Martial arts. And all modern day schools of "Martial Arts" have forgotten this fact/connection about cooking. And then he started a new school of training - "cooking+Martial arts" for people of "an island" who never knew the original ancient teachings. They only learned through him about the history/traditions/practices of Martial arts i.e. Martial-Cooking-Arts. Now would be wrong for traditional people to say that Bruce bastardized the original teachings and manipulated people of this island? Make false connections between cooking and Martial arts that never existed in the past. No written record of centuries show this connection. Would it be wrong for traditional people that he bastardized the name of old masters is his grand-manipulation. Would it be wrong for a cult follower to point out the bastardized teachings after visiting and understating the mainland? So note that, no one is against cooking but actually against the false/untruthful/fake connection used to manipulate the people of the island. Same is true of YB - here's how - Yoga is a completely different school of thought from writings of sikh scripture, completely opposite ! Same as Martial Arts is from cooking. No one can deny the benefits of any type of yoga (kundilini/Hatha/Tappa). However, since you are in the west (isolated like on an island) all you know of sikh scripture is what was explained by YB. Here is Punjab, we know there are rarest of the men who spend a lifetime devoted to understanding the deeper teachings of the sikh scripture and then come once in century. Currently, one such man is Dharam Singh Nihang Singh. He actually destroyed the base of YB's teachings at a seminar in Punjab in 70's. YB used religious politics in Punjab to validate his teachings in those days but he got destroyed at that seminar (Read More ... sachkhojacademy.wordpress.com/genesis/). Anyway, the point is that we local sikhs know that Yoga and Sikhism are two separate trees whereas westerns are taught by YB that they are two branches of the same tree. Big Difference brother ! To summarize - Cult based teachings present in any "religion/school of thought" should not be given a free pass no matter in what form/shape they are being preached. So, I appreciate Gursant's efforts of awareness and do not see them as hate commentary.

[@venusdoggessoflove143]

Excellent video. We love your honesty.

[@erikaanne1223]

Did YB make up this technology? I was all in for KY but now I wonder if it’s just a waste of time and energy...

[@mustangally1]

Erika Soerensen Only you know if it’s a waste of your time and energy. How you feel about the benefits of Kundalini yoga shouldn’t be based on what other people tell you, but on how you feel about KY inside yourself. Sat nam.

[@xeniavega9404]

Great explanation. Thank you!

[@p33pasto45]

Your the real MVP thank you!

[@barbergurl]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I appreciate it. I am starting some Kundalini training and I too struggle with the "spiritual teacher" worshiping. I am also very sensitive to others. Sat Nam

[@rubycrystal1]

The teacher trainers sure won't be able to get away with that yogi bhajan worshipping anymore!

[@ellendragon8085]

I love this. , and thank you for sharing your story!, I was so involved with 3HO from 1974 to 1981. Changed name ,arranged marriage, ...I learned so much, gave me a foundation of going within. Took me to places that sincerely altered my life in a positive,direction. I still integrate many of his teachings in my life now. I would not change anything relating to my life with that I experienced than, for it only enhanced my life and was one of many teachings, that brought me to who I am today. Was he perfect,no. Did he do things that weren’t 100 percent honest,Yes. He was human,with a gift. Take what you want ,leave the rest. I left the group because I was allowing myself to loose myself. That was not his doing , that was something i needed to own. We choose our paths and we can change it. I am grateful for my experience and the many people who were my my family than and have re connected with some of the oldies but goodies of that time era . Sat nam ., and Pura Vida. 🙏

[@kalidivine6607]

SatNam and blessings for your truth....🙏💎📿

[@jbloch3950]

Excellent commentary. I do agree with others that it isn't a "who cares" for those who experience(d) abuse. However, it is not our individual duty to carry other's burdens, particularly if they are not seeking our individual help. Do what works for you, take out the pieces that are holy for you, and live by the heart and intuition. That is the best we can all do.

[@christinamorales6887]

I have 20 years experience of yoga and have practiced KY for 11 years and became a level one teacher 👩‍🏫 I lived on the ashram in New Mexico for two years. I have completely left the teachings and I don’t practice or teach anymore. My path has changed and God called me out of it. I walked away from the many issues on the ashram today. At the time in my life it served a purpose but I don’t need it anymore. I had a deep healing experience with Jesus that changed everything. No mantra or meditation healed me the way the spiritual experience with Jesus did. I moved forward from this yoga and have not looked back.

[@taramorrison9509]

Christina Morales I commented on this video two years ago when it first came out. That’s how I felt then. But after reading the premka book and listening to all of the horrific survivor stories of women and children who suffered spanning decades? No. I can’t live or contribute to a lie anymore. So I too have ceased my practice and teaching. No idea what is next, but living in integrity and standing up for what’s right is more important than any other consideration!!

[@mmcbluefly]

Thanks for your insight, I found it very helpful. I have practicing kundalini regularly for just over a year and am barely into my teacher training and am discovering some of the dark sides of it and was concerned I was getting involved with a cult of sorts. My teachers have been wonderful but reading Pamela Dyer’s book was a bit of an eye opener regarding the founder of my teachings. I find comfort in your words ... teachers are not perfect, and the practice itself is healing ... don’t throw the baby out with the bath water type of thing ...thanks for that 🙏... best to you in your journey ... Sat Nam

[@RegisChapman]

I know someone who dated Yoga Bhajan's personal security guard for 15 years, during the time he was the security guard for Yogi Bhajan. She was in the inner circle for a long long time. The teenage girls were always in his orbit, and she saw what happened to them. I am all about distinguishing the teacher from the teachings- one of my own teacher wasn't so great, either. But not like that. Lineage is important and living ethically is also important.

[@aliciaking2464]

Thanks for yr weekly messages,what a interesting talk u gave, I had a inkling about 3 years ago of yogi Bhajan and his past in a article I read about him,I was shocked,didn’t want to believe it,thought I read it all wrong and didn’t want to no about his past, and carried on with my practice and teaching because as u say...Kundalini Yoga Works,,simple as that,it’s not an easy ride sometimes with k. Yoga, but well worth it.all that matters is that u are true to yourself.sat nam,...tears and all.🌸

[@dragontypetrainerlevi8451]

After much distraction i finished your video and wish to speak more since you asked About my experience im a channel and i learned from some one that wasnt honest about their path or personal life their very lack mind set money oriented and when this spilled over publicy i couldnt ignore it so i cut all ties left the group removed them from my group droped patreon droped them from my youtube and at first i was very angrey at them because i did have them on a pedistal but i was also mad at myself i was mad they are a channel and filling in what spirit wont awnser with their own ego thus creating doubt about genuine channels i was mad that everything i learned was from them and i was mad that now this person i looked up to was openly bullieing stone walling and manipulating for their gain but i was most angry at myself because i saw reflections of my past in their current actions and i relaised they dont know half of what their teaching for example they kept saying karmas changing but what they really meant was i dont want to own up to my own karma my lifes experience showed other wise you cant run from karma it always finds a way but that dosent mean it isnt mutable if you know how and i was mad because i saw others going through alot of pain because of this person and it showed me what people felt when i was a teen and acting out bullieing and in general just being a shitty self centered person because i was sexually abused as a child and learned that when no one listens to your honesty that dishonesty is the path i was mad at seeing the shadow of my past right in my face and i was affriad of who i was affriad of awnsering to others affraid to reflect inword and love even the worst parts of myself and affriad to speak my truth and be placed on a pedestal as my teacher has just because of my own magnetism as you so well put it (my magnatism terrified me when i started channeling for others) and i relaised my solution dont teach the truth teach how to find the truth dont create followers create leaders and love every trigger i find in others as insepperate from my self humility is a the path of a true teacher if that is were i wish to go but as i said i cannot run from my karma and im here to help others help them self not teach "spiritual truths" to new age hippys who take the fluff and spin it to further their bipassing i became disillusioned with the new age as a whole because of this lack of genuine western teachers and then i remembered who has created more help for the west than any other... Mahesh and what did he teach tm but what do i have to offer than tm dosent to be honest idk i haven't figured that out but i know its in my heart i know my heart knows and thats were im starting inward heart centered reflections which is the awnser i can grasp at this moment maybe it will change maybe it wont who knows im just flowing with the river of my soul at the moment

[@ManawasChannel4711]

I love what your speech! ....... This is called to be a spiritual adult..........

[@channelnotactivegotoinkmer9394]

I’ve ran across lots of phony teachers and wackos that are hilarious. But you are obviously the real deal. All gurus,babas,and yogis are stuck in a human body, so it is absolutely normal for them to make a mistake somewhere down the line. They are still human. Yogi Bajan simplified and got to the core of thousands of years of study. We are so blessed to learn from his recent incarnation.

[@kristinefaust7150]

I am so happy that you did this video. I have struggled with these same questions about Yogi Bhajan also. I love the teachings...KY technology has transformed my life in so many amazing ways. I definitely do not need to agree with him on everything or even look up to him as on a pedestal to be able to utilize these teachings. He was a human after all. A Master of Yoga. Very wise. But, still not perfect. My biggest concern right now with practicing this technology and I am hoping that you can address this concern in a video because it is one that will be coming up alot around KY...is the fact that we as whites are misappropriating another races culture. Are we causing harm to the Sikhs or to the Indian culture by practicing Yoga and or chanting Gurbani when we are white? I am very concerned about this. I have no wish to disrespect others beliefs or twist around their teachings.....but, I love Mantra. I love Shabd. Any advice, insights...etc would be appreciated. Thank you ♡

[@kristinefaust7150]

Heather Waxman, it was your posts on Instagram that first brought this issue to my awareness. ♡ still digging in to reveal... so much to learn and much to let go. ♡

[@johngrahamwilson1649]

I wish I had done this when I first encountered 3HO in 1980. I really regret taking in the Bhajan part - it had so many bad consequences for me. The 90 days after Tantra were catastrophic. I just wished I had done the yoga and left it at that. One can live very well with yoga and that is enough. Get rid of Bhajan - he brings you lousy luck.

[@zenyoginichants]

If you chant the prayers of the Sikhs you just have to remember these Shabds and Jaap carry the blood of the Sikh martyrs... that it is sacred to them must not be overlooked. Sikh history is written in blood, so if you are not Sikh what gives you the right to misappropriate their most sacred prayers?

[@haldikoldi5800]

I am a sikh and let me clear some odf yours misconception s You can chant gurbani as much as you can , and if you are able to understand it than it can help you to connect with your inner self, you will be able to look at your inner being. Ad chanting shabad is always good It is clearly written in gurugranth sahib that any one can chant gurbani, let me quote one line "Avo sikh satgur ke pyareyo gavvo har har baani" that mean come and chant gurbani and if you have true love for gurugranth sahib than that gurbani will reside in your heart

[@mulangira79]

Sikhi is a spiritual practice not a race. It was originally formed to be experienced by all people of all types. The gurdwara is open for all people punjabi or not. Doesn't matter race, gender, etc. This comes straight from the mouth of the Guru.

[@barbarapederson7641]

I don't know about being OK with Yogi Bhajan. If I understand what you said, we should then also forgive the people caught up in the "Me Too" movement because they create great works. It is wild to have a great teacher a master and yet he did not follow his own norms. Just what we see today, an abuse of power. Hard to answer this question. I love the teachings but maybe he is the wrong teacher for me. Yet, I love what Kundalini yoga does for me. I am conflicted.

[@isabt4]

Barbara Pederson good point! I also feel conflicted. All I know is that I love kY and meditation, has helped me tremendously. I tend to ignore yogi bhajan, the man.

[@pk4668]

When I first found out about Yogi bhajans allegations I didn’t react towards that at all . All did was go back into my heart and got answers from there. And the answer I got was that Yogi bhajan shared knowledge or a tool with the western world and today that tool has helped me open my heart for the very first time. And so I said to myself it doesn’t matter who he was as a human he wasn’t perfect he came here to experience this human life and that was his journey but the knowledge and the tool that he shared which has truly helped me and that its self is enough for my spiritual growth and to follow the teacher within myself. Hence all I experience from my heart is that from my soul to yogi bhajans soul I feel pure love. 🙏😊🌻💚💚💚💚💚💚💚

[@DivineMeTime]

I sobbed my first class too!

[@glorialoaiza1609]

Spot on!❤️

[@nadiamcdonald1193]

Sat Nam to all you said and thank you - it is all about the teachings and I felt this from the very first time I experienced Kundalini Yoga - through my training and beyond. I read Prema's book and heard all the accusations from others experiences - these were not anything to do with the teachings so why stop a practise that has such amazing results !?! 💜

[@kevinmorales2552]

I LOVE YOU, Sat Nam

[@VeraBousiou]

The Greek word for truth is "aletheia" (αλήθεια), that literally means the pulling out from oblivion "lethe" (λήθη). When we find ourselves interested in certain paths, theories, philosophies, practices, whatever, most times we're just ready to remember what we already know or knew before. This is definitely a soul calling as you wisely describe it, that's why learning more seems so right like most of the times, true. These are all kinds of new initiation concerning the already sensed. Just like you, I cannot handle group energies very well, I finally went, after practicing for a long time, to a yoga teacher training some months ago, the Indian teacher there immediately implied that Yogi Bhajan was a fraud, he accused most of the Sikh community, I'm quite informed so I could see a competition game unfolding there rather than definite facts but I didn't comment anything, I didn't want to hurry. I finally quit this training for a variety of reasons, there was no joy in the experience just pressure, I had to trust my intuition, if this thing was for me I'd enjoy it, I'd feel the vibrations. Anyways, when I had first seen a Kundalini Yoga video years ago I had also felt mixed feelings, some kind of resistance, I don't like anything restricting my freedom of expression so seeing everyone in white like uniforms reminded me of a cult, and that was a "no no" for me back then. Some years passed and I searched for Kundalini again, this time my feelings had changed, I could see that I personally didn't have to conform but to receive what I find useful from this tradition. I can have respect without accepting everything. Relativity is the key indeed here; just like you describe it, a method isn't cancelled just because human behavior isn't always perfect. But this understanding of mine didn't emerge from studying eastern philosophies, it springs from my experience with psychoanalysis and knowledge of western mysticism, hermeticism in specific. What I'm trying to say is that there's no road without infusions, and I know that the new era will be all about that. Not everything is identical still there are bridges. What I also didn't appreciate about my Indian teacher was that he kept (unconsciously as it seems) insisting that all great gurus of teachers can only be male while he was mainly teaching women! A contradiction to say the least. Things will unfold as things are to unfold in the end. The more original we are in our approaches will surely pay off, that's what my heart tells me. There are no blocks, just some challenges and re-adjustments.

[@RadhaKhalsa]

Yogi Bhajan's teaching are true. What ever else he did or didn't do is his Karma.

[@env491john]

Precisely. Go within and drop the mind.

[@karmajangchup]

Thank you for this video! I have been practicing Hatha Yoga and Meditation for almost 10 years and recently found Yogi Bhajan and have started to practice Kundalini Yoga. I do not agree with everything he says and I am not a Sikh, I practice Kashmir Shaiva Tantra. I take from his teachings what help excel me in my Sadhana. I do consider him one of my three Gurus, in Raja Yoga. My Guru for Jnana Yoga is Swami Lakshmanjoo, my Guru for Bhakti Yoga is Swami Ramakrishna Paramahamsa (who also is "controversial) I follow a 3-Fold yogic path or Integrated Yoga and my three Masters all have differing teachings even though they are all three of Tantric traditions. When it comes to teachings of sacred knowledge and devotion to God I do not really turn to Yogi Bhajan... But when it comes to practicing Kundalini Yoga safely and affectively and carrying its many benefits into my daily life he is the Guru I turn to. SAT NAM! OM NAMAH SHIVAYA!

[@MrSunny421]

Great video, I appreciate the topic and the everyone's contribution to the discussion. I have struggled with this topic ever since my teacher training. This video brought up a lot of emotion. What as mess this age of aquarius business is. I hope the light of the soul can come through, cause I can't see the way anymore... Oh wait, I remember - pray and meditate and keep up ( I learned this from yogi Bhajan) :)

[@gradyhaugland6312]

great message at the end,,,,,,,,,,,, im still super cunfused tho, last night i had a out of body expereance where a being was driping acid in my eye. i was in ageny, it was actully painfull, i came too latter and then they want to show me love my angels. wierd shit dont know who to trust

[@joshuarech6381]

I was at Miri Piri Academy (Yogi Bhajans school in Amritsar) while I do agree with most of your points, I have to defend the Siri Singh Sahib ji. Yogi Bhajan never claimed to be perfect. If he seemed rough towards students, he wanted their best. One of his most famous quotes is: " don't love me, love my teachings". He didn't care, about his students liking him, but only about their growth. I believe, knowing many of his close followers, that the claims of sexual assault, are blackmailing. Many people in the comments claim, that KY is linked to Sikhism, and that they don't like that part of it, well besides the fact, that the last four known masters of KY, were Sikhs, it has not a lot to do with Sikhism, the links are mostly metaphorical or just basic values of being a good human being and allowing the teachings of KY to work deeper and more efficiently (Turban, Kara, long hair and beard)

[@thevegetablechef6776]

Joshua Rech show some proof of existence of these four last masters of KY that were sikhs please. With all evidence that has come up it seems yb made ky up out of the teachings of maharaj virsa singh (who did not teach yoga) and Dhirendra Brahnachari (a hindu hatha yoga teacher). To all the legacy yb claimed, there has been no proof of any kind, only endless repetitions of the same story from 3ho over and over again. Try to take a critical look to all you have been taught and see what you’ll find.

[@rahkielsingh6028]

@@thevegetablechef6776 Brother Guru Nanaks Son Lived Past the 4th Sikh Guru; Guru Raam Dass. Nanaks Son, Baba Siri Chand, was an incarnation of Lord Shiva. Siri Chand left his cave to challenge the fourth Master only Guru Raam Dass alredy knew and he was also on his way to meet him. They meditated when theyre paths intersected. Baba Siri Chand (Shiva) passed all knowledge of Raj Yog down to Guru Raam Dass who then united the divided paths of Yoga India. This is recorded Sikh history and largely overlooked ; look and you will find. Guru Raam Dass willed the teachings and is the foundation on which they will carry on. LET IT BE KNOWN! 🛡☬

[@giuliasingolare3192]

But,the documentari is about osho, no bhajan.

[@yogalotus8447]

Thank You

[@tulabean2297]

So fast forward to today, Sept 25th 2020. Since February this year a lot more detail has come out about bhajan and his crime cartel. It is way worse than I imagined. Considering that it took a lot of help from other psychopaths to carry out that abuse for his entire time here in the states I think some discovery legal action is in order. I feel anger and frustration when I think of those women that offered their younger siblings to bhajan as a sexual gift, even helping hold them down while he raped them. These women are parading around at solstice like queens when they need to be in jail. There are many other co-conspirators in this evil, not to mention the abuse the children went through in India and how threats of violence were used against those who protested the evil they saw. I remember reading about the murder of an ashram member in Canada who came forward with some truths that the cartel did not want getting out. I could go on and on here but I think the point is clear and anyone interested in researching more can find information easily online. Fraud is to light of a term for this evil, this was a criminal cartel with murder, drug running, rape, physical abuse, theft and fraud (convicted members served sentences). So do I still practice KY? No. I dropped the name and have been through a lot of healing and understanding about internal and external authority. When I benefit at the cost of other's being raped, murdered and stealing and see no problem with it I become satanic. Satanism has 4 basic tenets and "what is good for me is good despite how it effects others and what is bad for me is bad despite how it effects others" is one of those tenets. I am not going to be that person. Interestingly 4 weeks after leaving ky and starting svroop yoga, which I only practiced once a week I had the sweetest k rising. The universe confirmed my decision. Oh these times are revealing and for that I am grateful. So in response to your question, who cares? I do, I care deeply and my actions, thoughts and behaviors will reflect that care.

[@manjitnyc615]

Thank you for this video. I am a Sikh born in the UK and almost Indian Sikhs don’t know a lot about Yogi Bachan because we are taught to not worship any one except for the God inside of us. The religion is based on no idol worship and SATNAM being the truth of your own identity and finding your consciousness and direct relationship with God. Having done some kundalini classes with Yogi Bachans Trained disciples - He has taken bits of the Guru Granth Sahib in the first kool mantra and made them into mini mantras. I am confused as to why SATNAM is how people greet each other when SAT Siri AKAL is how Sikhs greet each other and we end services with “WAHEGURU JI KHA KHALSA WAHEGURU JI KHI FATEH. I am still researching but must admit I was severely disappointed when I attended a class two weeks ago in Ny and the teacher was texting whilst teaching. This is not the Gurus way at all.

[@radvagtv5904]

I have experienced much healing through KY practice. In teacher trainings however I found much indoctrination within the Kundalini yoga community and the perpetuation of many rigid practices and perspectives. Perhaps the recent sexual assault allegations will shake many teachers and students out of their dogma and return them to their own questioning truth. I feel returned again to deep questions and a deeper sadhana. Sat nam

[@languorable]

Thank you

[@virvisquevir3320]

Muhammed Ali was a great boxer... and cheated on his wives... that doesn't make Ali a not-great-boxer... Albert Einstein was a great physicist... and cheated on his wife... that doesn't make Einstein a not-great-physicist... John Lennon was a great musician... and cheated on his wife... that doesn't make Lennon a not-great musician... We can all profit from Ali and Einstein and Lennon... Just like we can all profit from the teachings of Bhajan in spite of his human flaws...

[@truereality84]

I have come a similar conclusion regarding the practices of Isha foundation, I don’t completely trust Sadhguru Jagi, but I have found his Shambhavi maha mudra kriya to be very beneficial when practiced daily, and so I do it. In the end Yoga is a set of techniques to elevate you spirituality as well as physically, it does not matter if the teacher was a saint or not, that being said, shame on those who would use spirituality for their own selfish gain and to get people to believe they are infallible Gods that should be worshipped.

[@bodhiray393]

It's sad but a fake is a fake

[@avneetkaur1518]

I think Yogi Bhajan was ahead in Sikhi than of most of us sikhs, that make for normal sikhs really hard to understand him and his teachings/yoga. Yoga was indeed apart of sikhism in the start, but unfortunately disappeared later on. I can just say that he did not seem to be a fraud at all, and seems quite spiritual based on the videos i have seem from him. I see he beautifully combined spirituality, Yoga and sikhism.

[@laurieclark4349]

What about the message of the people who were abused? I understand what you are saying about “who cares” about the fraud, if the teachings helped you personally. But following the teachings of an abusive person who committed rape, is supporting an organization that has hidden, and therefore condoning abuse. My intuition tells me YB was a fraud.