WASHER MACHINE DRAIN WITH NO TRAP

[@CranialAccess]

As a retired RN I can understand the ladies concerns about her imuunocomprized daughter with cancer. The blue masks with the ear loops don’t do shit, the bacteria and viruses can get right through the fibers of the paper masks. We couldn’t wear them in the OR. It would be better if the daughter wore an N-95 mask which would protect her and everyone else could be mask free. Great video Steve!

[@JohnThomas-lq5qp]

Two problems with N-95 mask: took me well over a year to find any in stores first year of pandemic. They were actually marked K95 mask all made in cheating lying lack of quality control communist china. Tried ordering N-95 mask over the Internet first year of pandemic and they cancelled order after being back ordered for months. One place had them but think you had to order 250 of them. I go way out of my way to avoid purchasing or using inferior garbage from cheating china.

[@CranialAccess]

@@JohnThomas-lq5qp Yes I also try to avoid any China made crap. Those test swabs everyone was sticking up their noses were also made in China 🇨🇳 god knows what was on them!

[@richklus9411]

ALL of the work you do is top notch. Thanks for sharing, Steve.

[@chipdayton9426]

Too tall is better than too short, but that stack seems taller than it needs to be. 18" is the minimum, I think 42" is the max.

[@fanofoldfans9238]

That old brass clean out cap is worth some $$. Great job installing that waste/vent line!

[@craigsmith6446]

No trap no problem, it has one now! Love watching your work Steve.

[@buffydog21]

We're supposed to go from the 50s tomorrow and go to the 40s in less than a week. With the natural gas prices climbing to almost $11.00 per CCF. The electric rate has gone from $0.14 per KWH to $0.31 per KWH. There are a few houses running on fuel oil, but most houses are using natural gas or countryside areas running on propane.

[@Steve-bm2zm]

In Ohio oil and propane have gotten so expensive if electric is $.15 per kilowatt hour it will be cheaper to use electric resistance for heating

[@buffydog21]

@@Steve-bm2zm I live in Michigan and I've know a majority of the people use natural gas. The older houses use fuel oil. My Cousin's house was fuel oil, because the tank is still in the basement. But, at one point, it was changed to natural gas. If you live in the countryside, where natural gas lines haven't been ran, then it's propane tanks outside. Last year got a 96% new natural gas furnace, because my old furnace was 30+ years old and had a holes in the heat exchanger. It wasn't a replaceable part. I love my Nest Thermostat, because I never have replace batteries. I can sit on my couch and raise the heat or air conditioning. I know from watching Steve Lavimoniere channel, that Steve Lavinmore hates Nest Thermostats.

[@russellhancock9765]

I think My Washing machine pumps something like 17 gallons per minute on spin. It is not a new washing machine, but on the final spin, it really gets in high gear.

[@ricktomlinson5481]

I love miss molly ! sweet little dog !

[@James-bv4nu]

I would zip tie the grey corrugated tube with the white PVC. Sometimes when discharging, the grey tube can work itself out.

[@phononut]

Now that's a pipe wrench! Great job!👍🇺🇸

[@Bigdogdealings]

Can’t believe you got that 1inch off. Is it not code in your state to put a back flow preventer for the laundry discharge drain? Here in NJ that repair wouldn’t be up to code .

[@richardjoseph8683]

Not up to code in NJ in many ways.

[@russellhancock9765]

That's A Crusty One Mr. Grinch.

[@whitefeather5629]

Hate to be around when the sewer line backs up seeing as it's the low point of the house and you didn't bother to put a check valve back in. Aren't washer boxes 2" these days? The reason, because washers these days put more volume out faster.

[@imbowser]

how old is that torch? was it your dads?

[@stevenlavimoniere]

i have had that torch for 40 years ..

[@tonym6920]

Hey Steve and Miss Molly! Workin’ again y’all. 👍👍

[@onemarine6666]

Cheta ba ! I love the different accents across our country.

[@avelardosoto1264]

Mr.Steven good job 👍😊😎🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲 USA

[@anthonykotoff3041]

Your a good guy ! You should’ve put the check valve back. It was there for a reason

[@stevenlavimoniere]

check was only 1" to small ........pipe is 1 1/2 ...

[@zombeatle01]

Code says 2” pipe for washer drains now😮

[@ranger178]

they were probably using check valve in place of a trap the trap is better check valves can get stuck open or closed collect dirt etc.

[@adammullins8390]

Whoa mama, the pump in the washer won’t last very long pumping that high. The specs in the manual probably say what the maximum drain height could be. I love your videos , and I hate to troll.

[@Gr8thxAlot]

The pump will probably outlast the circuit boards on this machine.

[@workingshlub8861]

these pumps on new washers are way more powerful than even 10 years ago...with all the high efficiency stuff

[@ricks.1318]

She's "takin it" .... Not a drop spilled !!!! 😄

[@roberthernandez1985]

The washer in our area doesn’t need a trap if you have a swing check or double spring loaded check valve against the sewer

[@frankm496]

If all else fails, break out the blow torch. Next step Napalm. Love you approach to things... cut it out or burn it out

[@rustyshakleford5230]

I like the old school water hammers arresters. That's a no no today.

[@rustyshakleford5230]

@@dhenschel4 they trap stagnant water. That's how everybody used to doing before 1980 but especially in the hot water side it can lead to legionella and a bunch of other bad stuff. That's why water hammer arresters are sealed and don't rely on trapped air anymore.

[@rustyshakleford5230]

@@dhenschel4 is it actually going to hurt you? No. Can you plumb a house like that today? Maybe somewhere but probably not anywhere in the United States.

[@rustyshakleford5230]

@@dhenschel4 exactly. 120F is what I have to set all water heaters too and what the homeowner/property manager does after that is their business. Anything over 120 has the potential to scald and anything under 110 "risks" bacteria and whatnot. Do people drink hot water? Kids put all kinds of things in their mouths and noses. Anytime I put in a water heater I show the person paying me how to turn it up but I refuse to do it. I set it at manufacturers specs and take a video and leave. I read a horror story down in NYC about a handicap guy who died from being left in a tub right after the water heater was changed. I want to say it he was only left unattended for like 10 minutes and the new tank plus a 3 handle mixing valve wound up ending the man's life.

[@ranger178]

@@PGspeed88 i heard don't drink hot water in us because they used lead pipes and lead solder in old houses never heard of bacteria growing in city water pipes since it is chlorinated. i have seen stuff grow in end of faucets where it is exposed to air, but they say that it is harmless. maybe with wells you can get bacteria

[@ranger178]

@@dhenschel4 the expansion tank is for houses with anti-drain back valves so water from heater has someplace to expand when it heats up it can't push back into city line

[@patricwagner7147]

Just curious, does the discharge hose have a backflow baffle? I didnt know there was such a thing till we went to the summer home one year after some family used, learn to find out a rug was washed and fell apart and solidified in discharge hose at said baffle, and in pump, luckily we fixed. No one of course admitted till they were called out lol. Didn't know it was a item, asking as it seems it could be an issue .

[@stephenbullock1443]

Keep the videos coming Steve.doesnt matter what kind of work you do

[@sewndebisdream6953]

Hey Steve ..another problem!!! Do you know what those shut off valves look like that are button like under the sink? I have one dripping and a friend of mine had one burst in her house she was renting and it was a nightmare! I'm so worried it will do the same. I shut it off and put a bucket under there to catch the drips. Its a Sunday so I'm just hoping it doesn't break until I can get someone out. Darn!!! I think those shut off valves were faulty to start with.

[@bobwhammer4237]

Retired appliance tech that saw way too many washers incorrectly connected that way without a trap and vented stand pipe.

[@rustyshakleford5230]

Honey you're terrible at doing laundry. Everytime you do a load my clothes come out smelling like shit!

[@ForgetU]

9:25 I did similar trap but sometimes it syphons out the trap. My pipe is not that long though.

[@rustyshakleford5230]

There's gotta be a house trap on the other side of that wall right?

[@buffydog21]

I understand, because I seen my Sister right before the pandemic and she has cancer. She wore the mask outside, because she can't afford to get sick with anything.

[@GoatzombieBubba]

Outside is fresh air which is more important if you're sick, but tell her to keep wearing the slave mask...CDC even says they don't do anything.

[@davidnull5590]

Masks greatly reduce the transmission from someone to the rest of the world, masks don't help nearly as much filtering out things from other people. I think of people wearing masks as a courtesy to other people, no one really knows when they're first infected. I knew eight people who passed away because of COVID, they can't be replaced, I wish everyone would have worn masks around them.

[@MoneyManHolmes]

It’s a cult.

[@johnwalker890]

Great job Steve.

[@ranger178]

that is really high stand tube for washer i bet they are going to always have water sitting in bottom of washer when pump shuts off emptying washer it will all flow back down tube into washer, they should put washer up on a high platform

[@DocNo27]

Nope - totally normal. That's the hose that came with that washer (I have an LG too). Won't cause a problem at all.

[@marcelhertig3935]

heat always fix the proplem,,i now good work steve

[@brizzx32]

The best part of this vid 5:15, Don't you think about stealing this!!

[@gerryvalentine7671]

Stevey boy got dem Popeye forearms !!🤣🤣

[@Eddavids2]

I did not know a washer would pump that high. I have the same issue at my house. My washer discharges to the sump and the sump is hooked up to septic. I need to disconnect my sump from septic. Was thinking about getting a pump for the washer but if this would work, I'll do it this way.

[@izzydizzy1115]

My washer is in my basement and I dump my washer water into a Big Buddy trash can with a lid, that has a Little Giant pump inside. PVC pipe hook up discharges through a one way valve and directly into the waste line. I have a float shut off in case it overfills and will shut off the washer. Works like a charm. Not a good idea to overwork the washing machine water pump by raising the discharge so high the way Steve does it here.

[@workingshlub8861]

these new washer pumps are more powerful than the ones even 10 -15 years ago....we only have 1 1/2 drains at my work for back to back washing machines because place was built in the 70s and they always cant take the flow..

[@kevinkelly9303]

Why u don't clean the burs off of the pipe?

[@iamnoone.]

Howdy Steve and Molly

[@SirJeep]

Low volume water 💧 👌 😌

[@CP-up8qz]

Steve when they do that tee set up off the laundry valves is that suppose to be like a home made water hammer Arrestor?

[@frankrizzo3915]

Nice work.

[@Victor-nn2wi]

My favorite cast iron pipe

[@davidparizek6741]

Steven, I taught I never see you with a cordless tool 🤔👍

[@Dominick_Calvitto.]

Great job!

[@Paul-gw6ow]

That is good to know that a washer would drain that high

[@DocNo27]

@@-Kristeen only if your an idiot and never wash with hot water occasionally. It's really not hard to keep a front loader from smelling funny.

[@davestout844]

I use that blue dope at work mama, no leaks.

[@edbonjovi9133]

Hello from edbonjovi aka leak master plumbing

[@Garth2011]

When there's a will...there's a way. Interesting reach for the drain height.

[@johnmichael784]

Grab the ol cheetah bar Steve.

[@aaronhuffman4852]

Will that strain the pump with the riser being that high?

[@zekenzy6486]

Great Video. Thank you for sharing

[@jongonegone1262]

that front loader washing machine will be the next major flood !!!!! top loader maytag get one.

[@Steve-bm2zm]

Is that sewer lead and oakum?

[@ranger178]

probably that's how they did cast iron in good old days those rubber hubs are for matching it up to pvc and repairs

[@Menmyboy1230]

If the main line backs up it’s coming up and out of that line you installed … that’s why they had the check valve on the most likely … shoulda kept that

[@jackl9922]

I love living in Oregon, except the tax system. Thinking of moving to Idaho.

[@rodneyskinner7741]

Hello Steve!

[@bigedd91]

Steve are ya in Ma? im a Ma. journeyman lic. plumber. love your videos.

[@Gr8thxAlot]

Steven will now be wearing a mask to match the gloves!

[@DAS-Videos]

That was a stubborn fitting. When in doubt heat it out.

[@javiergalvan242]

Nicely done Steve! ✔️ keep the video's coming ☝️

[@Brad1237202]

Nice job Steven! Love those home made shock arrestors for the washing machine!

[@davidnull5590]

You mean the shock arrestors that were banned decades ago?

[@Brad1237202]

Why? Because these are "home made?" Just asking.

[@davidnull5590]

@@Brad1237202 - Banned around 1980 or so. There were two problems with that type: Over time the air would be adsorbed by the water, eliminating the shock absorbing quality (and it's difficult to reintroduce air) and 2) in some situations bacteria would grow in the dead end section. Now shock absorbers have to be completely sealed.

[@rowdynoe9595]

@@davidnull5590 yep, legionella disease I believe is the main one. Cant have a dead leg on potable water lines more than 6" if I recall correctly

[@PetertheGreatest1]

That is a long way up

[@AlBracco879]

Keep up the great work ❤

[@rickdawson4507]

Can't believe they never ran a Trap on that laundry line. The reason for Traps is to stop the smell of sewer gas straight out of the line.

[@2979paul]

Steven can you connect a dishwasher to it’s outnumbered trap? Do you have a video?

[@Graffenwehr]

I'm not clear on how you can get away with that. I mean, doesn't the water that's in the drain line (the washer line) just come back down once the pump stops? I would think without a check valve or other, you would get some amount of water back into the machine?

[@Gr8thxAlot]

The machine will always have it sump full of water when it's done, so I don't think the height matters. This is an interesting setup, I've never seen anything like it!

[@robertp7209]

The pump is very low in the machine, and not everybody has a below grade house drain. My drain is up about 3 ft. It’s done the same way he’s doing.

[@ranger178]

i think there might be some water in bottom of drum when water drains back. washer directions usually don't recommend more than a certain height

[@PetertheGreatest1]

Nice pipe wrench

[@diegovega6545]

IT'S THAT LEGAL ??

[@gerryvalentine7671]

Extra long hoses for that washer .?? Just saw they're 8 foot to the left !🤣🤣🤣

[@bobbywanger8123]

👍👍👍

[@hughholt121]

Ge washers can lift as high as 8 ft.

[@qblinden21]

Why no check valve ?

[@pmfmpls]

Kind of you to wear the mask. ❤️

[@randywellmon601]

Why didn’t you use 2inch instead of 11/2

[@izzydizzy1115]

Putting that drain so high will likely wear out the washing machine pump prematurely!

[@Viking74256]

Why no PVC purple primer??

[@FreeAmerican-mm2my]

They can use clear primer in his area.

[@fredthompson2501]

She's taking it that's what I said

[@garyrice2987]

What, no studor vent?

[@stevenlavimoniere]

the line is already vented

[@garyrice2987]

Hey Steve, as long as that line is not receiving any waste from above prior to that trap below you would have my blessings

[@danlaur7973]

It's a miracle that the cast iron didn't split with that heat

[@bigedd91]

your nuts. done it tons of times. how would you heat out old lead joints?

[@blanchehealy879]

impressive removal: heat and cheat

[@Gordonseries385]

👍

[@robs1852]

At least it looked like real Apollo ball valves there. Not chinesium valves

[@AnonymaxUK]

But as you demonstrated Steve, wearing a mask isn't a big deal.

[@JasonLLC]

Doesn't want to give her daughter who has/had cancer covid. That's crazy?

[@joserios970]

She’s not a leaker!

[@denniscordova9920]

She's a crusty one mama! Oh man!

[@Gman2930]

She’s a tite one, mama!!

[@peted2770]

You still get the odd bird that wants you to wear a mask. I look at it like, It's their house, so it is their rules. It is like the people that want you to remove your shoes or wear booties.

[@davidnixon5832]

but wait... you're vaxed, yes...

[@stevetravels6160]

that is a hack job. shame on you. do you even possess a plumbing license? if the home owner knew any better they would call the plumbing inspector. better yet give me the address, i will call it in for code violation.

[@FreeAmerican-mm2my]

Please O Noble One. Enlighten Us. Tell Us how YOU would have performed the repair.

[@Vaticider69]

Thats what they use to do, normally the check would be 6 inches below where it feeds into the sewer...

[@willardpinson1197]

i never new a washing machine needed a drain trap , i have Bulit 4 houses i have never, seen one always straight pipe down in concrete, or under the house

[@ranger178]

they may have the trap in the floor

[@willardpinson1197]

@@ranger178 who ? I'm the one built the houses i would know . i just said i built 4 houses and im the one done the stuff i would know if they was one in the concrete, or under the floor ...

[@johnd1561]

You must have a smelly washing machine drain, with no trap or check valve you get sewer gas, no extra charge. And you built 4 houses? Time to hire a plumber! @@willardpinson1197

[@rickdawson4507]

There's a old Plumbing trick to get those tight fittings or pipes off without heating them up. I learned this back in the 70s and you first TIGHTEN it just till it moves then back it out and it works every time. Very easy to do on Water Heaters, Drain Pipes, Water Pipes, DWV Pipes. Can't believe they ran that laundry line without a Trap. The Trap is to have a water barrier so you don't get sewer gas smell in your basement or house.

[@adrianspeeder]

Check valve handled it before.

[@rickdawson4507]

@@adrianspeeder Check valve cost more than a PVC or ABS P Trap. and they can fail too

[@garykrell2058]

I've done that thighten then loosen trick for many years now glad to see someone else does to