Washington Housing CHANGES 2024 | Multi-family Housing Opportunity

[@malisastarot]

This idea trashes a neighborhood because it creates rentals and not home ownership.

[@nogames8982]

When I had my garage built, I thought about putting a little apartment above it. But it was gonna cost $30,000 just to get the water supply back there. That’s insane. And that was 10 years ago. Can’t imagine when it would cost now. So long story short it didn’t happen. My neighbor was going to do the same thing didn’t happen there either so there’s two missed opportunities. If you want people to do things like this, you gotta make it affordable for them to do it.

[@VancouverWashingtonLiving]

Was to bring a separate line from the road ,I assume

[@dsmjaime]

Just because one contractor wanted to financially exploit you does not mean that’s how it is for everyone else

[@jenniferrogerson9338]

I live in Washington, and she makes this sound like it's a good thing. That's not how it works, and it's horrible to families. It also forces so many to be pushed into small units, including families.

[@VancouverWashingtonLiving]

Oh no, there was only one main good thing and that was if people needed to create a ADU space on their property to help subsidize for future retirement or to be able to bring loved ones home to care for while still giving privacy one to another. That was the only “good thing “I was trying to make.

[@jenniferrogerson9338]

@VancouverWashingtonLiving please, you can do that on any property if there is enough from. Plus, that doesn't matter which state you're in.

[@jjohnson6833]

It is terrible. More traffic, less parking, denser population, more problems … good bye, quality of life.

[@karencarper1343]

Agreed thumbs down !

[@misterx4088]

@@jenniferrogerson9338 Not true. County codes in Clark county had prevented this, until now, maybe.

[@chasesmith3344]

Yea I just can’t agree with any law that lowers the standard of living for Americans!

[@chevyconnolly5504]

This is the beginning of the 15 minute cities.

[@VancouverWashingtonLiving]

@@chevyconnolly5504 yep, the VIC Project will be very close to that

[@Pterodactyl-kn3ve]

Throwback to feudalist system under the King of England. I thought we declared Independence over that. Sigh.

[@justme-dm7sb]

@@Pterodactyl-kn3ve Look at so many recent events and you can see the British are coming again. I have been saying this for about 6 years now. Why am I the only one seeing this?

[@nogames8982]

My house is 690 ft.², a craftsman built in 1900. It’s a great size for one or two people. I don’t think people need as big houses as they think they do. making an ADU of a minimum of 1000 ft.² is craziness. I could see maybe 500 ft.² but 1000 ft.² is not needed.

[@VancouverWashingtonLiving]

And they are building those 600 square ft homes , now called pocket homes. I would have never thought that anyone could go that small OR should I say, would cost you over 500k ,in some communities 😳

[@charlesvail2443]

Precisely. My old double wide is only 1100 sq ft . I'd like to add basically a studio off my garage or a tiny home for a low cost rental to help our retirement income. I think I will sell in 2 or 3 years instead and live in a more free State.

[@hondo54]

It's all about taxes

[@justme-dm7sb]

My house is 399 sq. ft. 1 bdrm, 1 bath, kitchen, dine/lvrm area and 3'11" storage loft above the ktch/bth. The bedroom and livingroom have vaulted ceilings, very open and comfortable. I built a dry storage cabin and have little need for anything else. In fact if I had it to do over again I would build that living space above a 3 bay shop.

[@59redwing]

Almost seems like she got it backwards? Like 1,000 max? I know in king county ive looked into it and they have size restrictions but im not aware of any minimums.

[@ScottyDoesStuff]

Kirkland pre-adopted these trash building laws early. It is now almost as dense as Seattle and is undesirable to live here now. They shrank traffic lanes, lowered speed limits, removed lanes entirely so it's tough to get around. They've added thousands and thousands of apartments. Rents have gone up even higher and the only people who like it are the types of people whose lives are spent indoors 100% and hate interacting with others. If any of these stupid ideas worked, then Seattle would have the lowest rents in the region because they adopted all this back in 2005. But it didn't work. And it's never going to work. Fun fact: In WA your renters can stop paying rent whenever they want and screw you over indefinitely. You'll have no rights at all and you'll stare at that ADU full of squatters every day.

[@dgw2490]

I agree with you on the owners not having any say. After watching the man in Seattle that went through that living in a van outside his house while the living inside stopped paying and used it as am air bnb.... we went through it. Guy stopped paying age left almost two years later owing $6800, we can't recoupe. The free attorney he received convinced him to move so he didn't receive an eviction on his record. Even the judges are questionable. They have an agenda that only serves a certain group.

[@jean-claudelol563]

This will force more people into HOA housing. HOA's becomes increasingly unaffordable as the property ages and the HOA dues keep going up, and up, and up, and up.... Additionally, many areas are already overly congested. Higher density housing is just going to make the congestion go from impossible to intolerable.

[@VancouverWashingtonLiving]

I agree that HOA’s can be a pain at times. They have their advantages and disadvantages. I always tell my clients it’s important to be engaged with the HOA and to vote. No CRAP ALLOWED. I’m in a community that has one myself and I sat in and brought awareness to my neighbors, so that stupid doesn’t go into effect.🤣

[@jeffrt3893]

​@VancouverWashingtonLiving Street lights and a single small park do not cost $4,000 per month ($80 x 50 homes = $4,000 x 12 = $48,000 per year). HOA's line the pockets of the builder.

[@cannotbeshaken7889]

I agree. I think this is horrible. Pretty soon you won't be able to buy a home that doesn't have HOA's. They are trapping us into paying more, and less will be able to afford a house. Plus, there will be no more suburbs, and less separation from high crime areas. We pay HOA's right now, and don't even know what they are for. There are no amenities. It's getting ridiculous.

[@bettyverge9448]

HOAs are a scam

[@casualbrowser407]

As she says - pros & cons. As good neighborhoods become more congested, they will become less desirable. We have housing shortages in desirable areas (not in general). Ruining existing desirable areas will only increase the shortages.

[@ScottyDoesStuff]

this has occurred throughout the I-5 and I-405 corridors. Nothing is cheaper. Livability is disappearing fast. Parks are constantly overcrowded. Roads, where we still have roads, are congested. Taxes are higher. All of this is a titanic failure.

[@misterx4088]

Consider this: If a home is built with a basement apt. and an over the garage apartment which can certainly be consistant with most new neighborhoods, then a home owner could have a variety of options to help family or perhaps earn a some needed income to help during a time of need, like a layoff or job loss. Also an older teen can afford or an elder relative that needs help could be housed. How do I know this? Because all happening or happened to me. The difference was all the driving around and having to miss my family to do it instead of walking a few feet. Think about it for a while or deal with eldercare and I would bet you will agree. Have you priced out care for elderly? Unreal.

[@adorabledeplorable5105]

The issue I have is this is happening in my neighborhood . The only people who will truly benefit are the realtors and banks . The “ houses “ I have seen and walk through are tiny with no garages and the prices are in the upper 700K on up . It is particularly a major win for the city . What I mean is where a property only has one tax , that same property will have multiple taxes . But don’t expect those taxes to actually be used resourcefully .

[@alexandradeheus]

this just ruins single housing. they can use apartments right next door

[@VancouverWashingtonLiving]

We will probably see this more towards the downtown waterfront area.

[@johnratliff4594]

There's something you don't get with multifamily housing in a residential area zone for single family homes the infrastructure was designed for single family homes and can't handle the multifamily dwellings requirements without upgrading the infrastructure the city county or state can't just rezone it for multi-family dwellings they have to plan costs into the new permitting for upgrades to the infrastructure. Those additional permitting costs to the would be developer put pencil out as not economical and thus make it more prudent to choose a different site.

[@VancouverWashingtonLiving]

Well said and I can see this happening a lot. It would pencil out

[@ScottyDoesStuff]

And they don't upgrade any infrastructure at all. Seattle is the bellwether for this failure.

[@kbranchjr]

That’s bull I been living here for over 10 years. There’s a lot of room to give people space. In the intercity. Developers are trying to just save money but charge more. I’m sorry younger people like room around their house.

[@purkeyfamily4079]

This is such a very helpful and great information.

[@americanpropertystars]

We would love to be your 1st call for pressure washing and soft washing! We are based out of Vancouver, WA. Roof, house, concrete, and more!

[@1lorijb]

Thankfully I've sold my home and will be leaving this this state for good, nothing but politics and mold .

[@misterx4088]

and slugs

[@shawnaj09]

I'm confused about the wording. Is it that ADU's cannot exceed 1000sf?

[@chemtrooper]

Inslee has successfully destroyed any desire I had to be a landlord.

[@VancouverWashingtonLiving]

There are a lot of people who agree..

[@240TechGuy]

California resident here, unfortunately all ADU does is increase property values and promote investor purchasing. It worsens housing affordability as houses are now more attractive to buyers (corporations, investment groups, multiple home owner) looking to rent out instead of living. These people have much more deep pockets than those willing to buy their first home.

[@VancouverWashingtonLiving]

With any additional living space being put on a property you will have property values go up. You are correct there. With that being said, We also want a return on what we put into our property. The AFU changes have helped several of my clients be able to bring their elderly loved ones close to them without having to be in the same home. More owners should look to subsidize their mortgage to help with retirement. Not all “investors” are large companies or slumlords. They are people wanting to make their money begin to work for them instead of punching a clock. We aren’t getting any younger 😂These aren’t bad things. There are positives and negatives to everything. I appreciate you taking the time to respond.

[@misterx4088]

@@VancouverWashingtonLiving exactly my take on it. ALL homes should be built with these options to allow for ease of living instead of foster homes/nursing homes. Live in caretakers can help families manage end of life or slowing down of life. I seek to have a basement apartment carefully rented as well as an above garage ADU rented to spmeone like a new teacher, nurse, etc.

[@maunykaseburg7969]

Adding ADUs also puts a stress on street parking and utilities....

[@bettyshier8766]

Did anyone take into consideration existing home values when these bills were passed? Single family home values usually fall when multi-family units are inserted into the neighborhood. What happens to those who have spent the past several years investing in their home only to have their main asset lose it's value? I don't think either of these bills help the citizens of this state, but it does help investors who buy legislators.

[@VancouverWashingtonLiving]

The seem to be really big on condensing and compacting in before extending out. Frustrating on so many levels

[@Daniko2]

The effect on value depends on more factors than whether multi-family units are infilled. There are a lot of places where the value of the homeowners' property will go up with the ability to add units. If a neighborhood wants to maintain value, encouraging changes to make the neighborhood more walkable (parks, small businesses, street lights, useable sidewalks by stroads, etc) makes a lot more sense than ignoring that there's a real housing crisis.

[@Pterodactyl-kn3ve]

Show me high density housing that is crime free, affordable, and pleasant (quiet, safe, friendly) to live in.

[@Learningthetruth7]

How do you spell crappy looking neighborhoods?

[@alexandradeheus]

this is terrible pretending to be good

[@VancouverWashingtonLiving]

@@alexandradeheus there are a lot of people that agree, It’s not good in condensed areas. It’s better suited with property that has land. It’s One of Washingtons solutions to housing issues and affordability. They did put a lot of restrictions around the bill on how it needed to be done. Time will only tell.

[@daisymorrigan]

Once the deportations start there will be more homes available. When I left Seattle in 2005 there was less than a million people here. I came back to find Seattle over 2 million. These Democrats have ruined our state.

[@misterx4088]

@@daisymorrigan My son is training now to be a commercial pilot. Been telling him if Trump wins, he can see the world while deporting the freeloaders....

[@daisymorrigan]

@@misterx4088 🤣🤣🤣

[@nogames8982]

I know that we need affordable housing. But as a homeowner anything that decreases my property value is not going to make me happy. And once you start decreasing property values in the neighborhood, it goes downhill quickly. Supposedly they’re going to put a six Plex about a block down the road, but it hasn’t happened yet. Two other empty lots had single-family homes built on them thank God.

[@VancouverWashingtonLiving]

You got lucky

[@jklubnik]

What if there is an HOA that states no ADUs on the property?

[@CJ21CJ]

With a AUD, Will you be able add to your property in a residential area that is zoned “Light Industrial?

[@VancouverWashingtonLiving]

It is based on zoning so it would need to be residential zoning.

[@emmasmith2790]

So, we will own nothing and be happy. This creates rentals not homeowners.

[@VancouverWashingtonLiving]

The only benefit was for families who already own a home but need to make space for returning family or to subsidize their income after retiring by renting their ADU. Other than that, not good.

[@rongustaveson4493]

Your politics will never make your state the place to be. More like a place to run from.

[@guileg9197]

we don’t want you anyways !

[@VancouverWashingtonLiving]

There is a state for everyone. Sorry that Washington isn’t for you but glad you found state that is.

[@cannotbeshaken7889]

I agree. This is horrible. The suburbs and nice neighborhoods will no longer exist. It will be harder to find lower crime areas to live. It will be nearly impossible to find a house without HOA's. I know many who are leaving the state for all kinds of political reasons.

[@simon359]

@@VancouverWashingtonLiving It’s a wonder anybody can afford anything anymore with inflation out of control! This may be why I’m getting a call after call to sell my house, so somebody can come in and build a huge complex. It seems to me it would be much better just to have light rail coming from the north, east, & south in order to lower the congestion that we already are choking from! As far as politics go, the Democrats have destroyed most of the West Coast and East Coast cities across America!

[@chasesmith3344]

@@VancouverWashingtonLiving I live in Vancouver wa and no one likes the middle housing bill! It’s a terrible bill that’s ruining housing in wa. This is a giant disadvantage for any regular person it only helps the rich. Real houses need to be built .

[@Learningthetruth7]

Nearly every saying homeowner won't like that.

[@VancouverWashingtonLiving]

@@Learningthetruth7 agreed

[@Joe-eg7ml]

It's not a good thing!

[@rickranum1]

Does the adu bill over ride HOA’s?

[@GrammyTammy13]

I think it’s Wonderful because my daughter and son in law have been trying to get the go ahead to build a small home for myself and my husband as We both have terminal illnesses and currently live in different states. We can get financing because my husband is a 24yr combat veteran who is disabled as a result of his service. This is a Huge opportunity for people like us❤

[@ginman293]

The road to hell is paved with kindness

[@VancouverWashingtonLiving]

I have clients just like you that feel the same way. The ADU will be a benefit. The middle housing not so mich

[@misterx4088]

@@ginman293 glass half empty type of guy huh?

[@danilueloo]

Sounds like CA is in WA.... This sounds horrible all the way around.

[@VancouverWashingtonLiving]

More people are relocating from California to Washington these days. When it comes to Real Estate we have looked to California as an indicator of what will hit us. Sounds like we may be doing the same thing here then.

[@MD-ky4ho]

California started doing this two years ago, under the guise of a “housing crisis”, thanks to Senate Bill 9. I live in Southern, CA. Last year, my neighbor converted his garage into an ADU for his mother to live in. His ADU has its own address and property tax bill. However, I have read stories of homeowners doing ADU’s and renting to the highest bidder. So much for affordable housing.) The City of Los Angeles is going overboard with SB9, they are allowing 2-7 story buildings to be built in neighborhoods that were zoned for single family dwellings. Also,the City of LA does not require builders to build parking for these buildings. What a parking nightmare!

[@allardzack]

Wonder how many big developers had influence on the middle housing bill?

[@baronofgreymatter14]

I DONT WANT RENTERS AT ALL ADU OR NOT

[@Monkiii2]

Thank you for sharing, Shastine! I was hoping to hear some news about first time home buyers, but will save this for when I eventually can purchase a home!

[@VancouverWashingtonLiving]

There are many things to cover and I would be happy to do some videos about buying your first home. I can make a video to answer a specific question you have right now. Just let me know😀

[@nutritioncoachjo]

Thank you! That was so helpful!

[@VancouverWashingtonLiving]

Glad it was helpful!

[@patricklewis1622]

In Washington it is max sf of 1000 not minimum😊

[@VancouverWashingtonLiving]

I quoted the WA State of Commerce article that summarized the approval.2023 new laws. The Link is below in my Description. It's on page 14. The article is labeled "ADUs Department of Commerce: Guidance for ADU in Washington State "

[@Flinshot1]

Both suck! Not comfortable with either as a senior citizen...

[@misterx4088]

stop worrying about it ol'timer.

[@sherimatukonis6016]

maybe you should mention that landlord have almost zero protection against abuse by renters.

[@paulmiddleton8111]

The thing I love about this law the most, it pisses off the people I hate the most, home prices are artificially high and so is rent, this will help tremendously!

[@CharlieFreda-e3w]

do these individual laws passed by the Legislature override HOA by-laws as a result?

[@gerdagayhart866]

Good question!!!!

[@gerdagayhart866]

HOA is pretty powerfull. Curious now!

[@VancouverWashingtonLiving]

I believe the HOA’s will override but I did attach the county link in my description for people to have more details on

[@weather10]

Shastine, does the second bill you talked about mean that having two separate ovens in the same house is now legal in WA? Great video! Thank you!

[@VancouverWashingtonLiving]

Yes, it will mean that. You will want to check in with the county or city on what you may have to file in order to have it considered a Legal, separate ADU.

[@VancouverWashingtonLiving]

That’s correct, this will help the homeowners who already utilize their lower level spaces of their home as an ADU.

[@jpardee7636]

What is needed is some rent increase caps

[@Learningthetruth7]

Nope. Works opposite of that.

[@VancouverWashingtonLiving]

I’m sure it’s coming.

[@malisastarot]

Can we have tax and insurance caps to,go along with that. For some reason people think that never goes up for property owners. And some renters trash your home which requires fixes and that expense gets passed on.

[@VancouverWashingtonLiving]

I’m sure they are on the horizon, we always seem to follow Oregon

[@Ratryggva1090]

What we really need is some tax increase caps. The cost is just moved to the renters.

[@johncarnettie6804]

Leave Washington State - California politicians are here! Lived here my whole life I'm planning to leave.

[@VancouverWashingtonLiving]

A lot is changing for sure if you have to sell your home or have family that will need to, I’m here to help 😉

[@uninsurable9028]

Where you going?

[@misterx4088]

Move to OR?

[@daralynx2]

Thank you for this information. Very well explained!

[@VancouverWashingtonLiving]

I appreciate the feedback. Thank you

[@richardrichardson515]

It's happening in many neighborhoods across the state

[@CabinGirl57]

Took away local control.

[@echtogammut]

This is not going to help the housing situation. There are plenty of rental units, Redmond has become a city of nothing but mostly empty rentals. What needs to be done is reduce the cost and time to pull permits, connect to utilities and deal with cities. No one is going to build a sub $1.5M house, when the time cost for residential construction is so high. Make it easy to build, hire more inspectors and streamline the corrupt process that requires bribing officials to get your documents processed.

[@quanahh9457]

How this works out depends more on the type of people who occupy the ADUs, duplexes, etc and not on the particulars of housing design. My concern is that various "social" agencies will get involved and try to cram a bunch of non-housebroke losers into the new housing types. Basically, people who can't get their act together to afford normal housing of existing types also tend to be the troublemakers and "neighbors from hell" that you wouldn't want next door no matter what type of housing it was.

[@vernon9121]

Wow what a video to influence. Washington home prices are already priced above wages and future values are hit and miss. Not enough sales in any category have happened in years to justify any increase. Cost has risks due to inflation and wages that are forced to skyrocket and soon.

[@ericwallace8118]

Another reason i will be leaving the beautiful State of Washington.

[@VancouverWashingtonLiving]

Where are you moving

[@UnknownMoses]

Town houses are junk and condos suck. We need more individually built single family homes. As long as this is a politically blue state then this is not an attractive place to live.

[@rickoxford9531]

These laws stop investing, takes money from citizens to pay and subsidies this housing. Again, misuse of Money we can not pay for!!!

[@ericweissenborn]

I am not sure about all this. She talks about comprehensive plans and land use regulatory revisions. I suspect that the first law is an in for low income apartments into neighborhoods as a way to push the “equity “ agenda. Sounds like an administrative state to me. Is she from California? -just some thoughts on that.

[@VancouverWashingtonLiving]

Not from CA, I hope they don’t but what I do know is that they have a lot of red tape on both of these laws if an owner wanted to utilize them.

[@Ratryggva1090]

Keep the politicians out of private decisions.😊

[@misterx4088]

Politicians should be kept in zoos or prisons

[@ontheroadagain5402]

Go to Nw 54th Street in Ballard to see how this takes a once beautiful neighborhood and destroys it.

[@hmdoc16]

Cool🎉

[@VancouverWashingtonLiving]

Thanks

[@dbz739921]

Affordability 😂😂 1 bedroom fixer in Seattle 1.1 million dollars...

[@misterx4088]

but it has a view of the space needle....

[@haydenerlandsen8295]

Yeah this sounds like a horrible idea😂

[@UnknownMoses]

HOAs are garbage we need individually built single family homes without HOAs. These bills suck.

[@herbert8128]

I think that there should be a restiction on the amount of houses a single person can own, and no corporation can own single famlily home.

[@VancouverWashingtonLiving]

Corporations shouldn’t be able to. A single person, go for it. That’s why we live in America. Heaven knows they will be regulated heavily so not much concern there. The true concern is Big Pocket corporations seem to have less of those regulations 🫤

[@herbert8128]

to give a person 24 to 35 years old road blocks to buying there first houseis really a depressing thought. It is my thought that these people not giving a chance to own a peace of America there is a chance that they will rebell and seek other avenue to independence and not go for real estate and the big house and lawn, with meny Mexicans grouming the properties. Even with one of the best degrees. the economics isn't there doctors and Nurses living in campers during the week and driving home on week ends

[@herbert8128]

I think that Madinia and Mercer Island south Bellevue all should have this in there covidences where you would have the right to live on the Estate lawns or on the the 400000 square foot house. Stop with taking from the working class.

[@misterx4088]

you are a communist

[@gcgcc2486]

This is horrible.

[@simsreject5925]

Stop gaslighting people. These policies have been tried in places like HI, LA, SF, and MD. The only people who benefit are big developers.

[@nakiflo]

Making it more like Los Angeles? No thank you.

[@hondo54]

99% don't love it

[@misterx4088]

Then it IS the 1% behind this evil plam

[@Msb9820]

Looks like another initiative should be considered…

[@VancouverWashingtonLiving]

And more people voicing their opinions at the state and county meetings would help.

[@Elon-r4x]

Keep voting for crap.

[@UnknownMoses]

@VancouverWashingtonLiving The middle housing bill sucks. Townhouses, condos, HOAs all suck. There are too many regulations making it expensive to build houses. Stop voting democrat.

[@ontheroadagain5402]

Get me outta here...

[@misterx4088]

Bye

[@lisafox5444]

Parking?????

[@pjt3887]

The best mayor Seattle ever had was mayor, Norm Rice. He had the idea of doing Urban villages in Seattle. There would have been five-story high-rises mixed use on the bottom and Transit would pull directly in there and you could go from your condo apartment down an elevator and walk directly onto a bus to get to work. In the early nineties people did not like this! People even had a recall effort because they were so angry about this they wanted to keep Seattle small. Look at what we have now if we have planned this out better we could have done Urban villages throughout kept more trees. Most importantly we would have stopped the urban sprawl that's still occurring. Put in a few mother-in-law units out in the backyard is not going to solve this housing crisis density must increase in some suburban areas and Transit must be improved. Living in Pierce County it absolutely flabbergast me that we are not even getting light rail. Everyone has been pushed out into Pierce County to find a quasi affordable place to live. Which is resulted in more and more cars out on the freeway if we had light rail we could stop some of that traffic and sprawl.yet again people want to wait dig their heels in the sand and hope that this bra will stop it's not you need to plan for it so it can be livable. California didn't and look what happened there.

[@VancouverWashingtonLiving]

I didn’t know that you for sharing

[@ScottyDoesStuff]

Those exist all over Seattle now. Literally everywhere. Life in Seattle is now soulless, boring, and leaving it to do anything is a hassle.

[@vonrock6862]

In Cuba, you can’t move, divorced couples live together with families new and old.

[@misterx4088]

sounds great

[@ChesleyMcdonagh]

WASHINGTON STATE OREGON AND CALIFORNIA ARE VOTING FOR DONALD JOHN TRUMP GO MAGA GOD SPEED!!!!!!!!!