Washington's Mad Mother! - Worst Moms in History

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[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

You guys are the Best 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@THECHEESELORD69]

I mean I don’t really have to explain anything, that’s just a human being!

[@cmcfly6722]

She's more annoying than Worst Moms in history.

[@mariacruz6578]

Can you do something like WORST SISTER/BROTHERS IN HISTORY

[@Progamermove_2003]

​@@mariacruz6578 That might cover virtually half of the royal families in history.

[@FastTquick]

Even if she isn't as terrible a mom as others on this list, slandering her own son in public isn't a good look for her.

[@arisenspirit]

Trolling her own son for the lulz

[@meme13100]

Never understood parents who slander and bully their kids.

[@SobaYatai]

Pretty sure she just want her son to stay with her instead of going to war

[@meme13100]

@SobaYatai she was slandering him even after the war and before it what do you mean.

[@TylerWu08]

@@meme13100being the president of a newly founded state can carry its consequences, and make you a target for assasination

[@floxyz8941]

Bringing friends as witnesses is crazy

[@mask938]

They couldn’t record videos or take pictures back then, so it was the only way for him to prove it.

[@floxyz8941]

​@@mask938yeah no sh*t but that ain't my point

[@annalessens8778]

His face was like, "She how she treats me, lads"

[@OzzieTheHead]

You mean "having had to"

[@SobaYatai]

@@mask938i hate to do this but that’s some 🤓 sh*t here bro

[@nessesaryschoolthing]

"I cannot tell a lie!" "Why not, George?" "I don't want to grow up to become my mom."

[@Kingcapy-se7fk]

But she did present her son to join the British

[@RodrigoGarcia-ze5em]

¿And ? ​@@Kingcapy-se7fk

[@floatingf8783]

Lol

[@geraldoderibeirao2347]

​@@Kingcapy-se7fk No, she stopped him from joining

[@chrishicks8734]

Bruh my mom is just like his mom and the reason I don't like lieing so makes sense to me

[@theeunseen8820]

Slandering her son to the point hes forced to bring witnesses is definitely up there in worst moms

[@redcecrossans2189]

No actually bud.

[@Memelord1117]

Catherine would definitely want her as a mother.

[@tadstrange8930]

Compare to the others moms, she at least cared about him

[@ALunarLight]

George mom" got to get him home somehow. would it kill him to write to his poor mother , or stop by for noon tea its only his rep that gets him home"

[@Ninnjette-]

She obviously had some mental issues going on.

[@andrewklang809]

Dying is easy. Living up to your Mom's expectations is not.

[@wikiuser92]

Tell me about it...

[@Trashsuit]

Dying is easy, young man. Living (up to your mom's expectations) is harder.

[@LuciferMorningstarrrrrr]

I KNEW there would be fellow Hamilton fans, I'm so happyyyy ☺

[@blorks]

HAMILFANSSSSSSS

[@JetDragon5]

Hamilton

[@ponymare1]

If you read Ron Chernow’s very in-depth biography of Washington, Mary was not a nice lady, nor were her reasons for keeping George out of the navy to protect him. Mary was extremely concerned with social status and money, and naval officers didn’t make as much as other branches. Relations with the British were fairly decent at the time George was looking to join up, he wanted to follow his older brother who he really loved and looked up to. Unfortunately his brother passed away when George was about 15, he contracted tuberculosis. Mary and George didn’t have a good relationship and it was often said that Mary was considered a difficult, nasty person even in those times.

[@FoxBullet]

And this is why context is important

[@chasingsilphium]

If you read Martha Saxton’s book “The Widow Washington” it does a good job of undoing some of the damage that Chernow’s book does. While it’s true that Mary Washington was not the best mother in the world, it gives Mary Washington some much needed back story that Chernow simply doesn’t give her. She suffered a lot in her early years, and while that does not excuse later bad behavior, the book paints her in a way that makes her a lot less cold and unforgiving than how Chernow, and many other male authors, would have her come across.

[@artathazuris]

I have read that book. His mother was not the greatest but she was still ok human being wise

[@samuraitadpole5459]

​@@chasingsilphium nah slandering her own son means she deserves the hate from "make authors"

[@FNWendigo]

Child support: *invented in 1800* People before:

[@journey9641]

I relate to the "having to bring witnesses" to interact with certain family members because of how much they lie

[@PirvateerKurei]

His friends having to be there to witness is hilarious. Even the president couldn't get away from family drama

[@squishmellowspeaks6785]

She’s not AS BAD as the worst moms in history but that’s not exactly a high bar to pass lmao, slandering your child who’s literally the reason you’re living in comfort is a super crappy thing to do

[@Kingcapy-se7fk]

But she did stop him to join the British

[@lepperkin]

​@@Kingcapy-se7fk Not for good reasons. She only stopped him because naval officers didn't make that much money.

[@Dragonlord13]

​@@lepperkin I'm pretty sure it was also because she didn't want him to leave since he was the last child and she didn't want to be alone

[@David-oi7sb]

​@@Dragonlord13 ofc she wants him home he's the one that's providing her financial security lol she just wants him around to use him

[@SuchNewt]

I think she was probably just lonely, and complaining got her attention. Also Washington was probably a very busy man, him showing up to bring her money may have been just a way for her to see him. Either way, considering she lived in relative comfort, I doubt money or slandering her son was the only reason she acted like this

[@johnp5250]

History does not change the way people act Just change how they looked

[@markmarano913]

Oh my God, this is hitting so hard right now and I love it!

[@omegawario7479]

True, which is why we need to learn it.

[@mickeywhite2563]

See. I wish my parents would get this. Because I keep having to listen to rants abiut how "they're rewriting history!!" like it's not just a bunch of people trying to find the truth and share it with the world. We can still learn from the past. We'll just be learning a lot more now. It's not like we should have been idolizing every inventor and ruler anyway.

[@Jiub_SN]

It did change how they acted. They were brought up in an entirely different society, what seems right and wrong to you is likely very different from someone of that period other than maybe the basic rights and wrongs. This applies to judging historical figures for things that were normal to do then. What if in 100 years people realize smartphones have an irreversible effect on our magnetic field and then in 300 more years people look back on us, would our ignorance be excusable?

[@belias360]

@@Jiub_SN How are smartphones and magnetic fields even remotely relatable to lying on your kid, slandering him in public, and essentially extorting his reputation for money, never mind stealing his inheritance? It was wrong over 300 years ago, it's wrong today. Stop it.

[@plaguepotato6624]

The thought of George Washington having siblings never crossed my mind but I guess it makes sense.

[@djry9795]

I mean it was standard back then for people to always have 3 or more Kids as there's always a chance that they could die of disease such as Small Pox.

[@scottanos9981]

I have a similar mother. Cries poverty due to financial anxieties she developed as a teen supporting her own parents. Such a strange complex.

[@cloakerzero.mp3802]

George: "Mom I'm literally trying to run a country we just made." The mom: "YOU NEVER HELP ME WITH ANYTHING, NOW GO TO YOUR ROOM!"

[@SuperXAsh]

I love his facial expressions

[@718jef]

That "I'm gettin real tired of this woman" ahh face 💀

[@arantarisu_yamu2414]

Sameee XD

[@dogefactor5746]

He just looks so done 😂

[@jejehatesme31]

>:C

[@dr.shivago2404]

@@jejehatesme31 exactly

[@captaincrazythe2nd468]

George Washington’s facial expressions had me dying💀💀💀

[@drrisen-9442]

She wanted a king for a son, instead of a president.

[@jimtalbott9535]

Mary Washington: Providing a deeply clear-cut example of gaslighting before the modern era. Really impressive actually. Reminds me of my mother in law.

[@ghostchrisi5886]

oof

[@SobaYatai]

Damn

[@michaelmiceli1931]

Relatable

[@HoudiniGenie]

no it doesn't

[@aliceDarts]

Gaslighting always has been a toxic weapon for toxic people. It only has a modern name to it, but I was always around.

[@Illier1]

Kinda ballsy that she accused pretty much the richest dude to ever hold office of being a cheap asshole

[@tessat338]

Washington had all sorts of financial problems. He had control of a lot of property by a bunch of it was part of his wife's inheritance from her first husband and had to be passed on to her son and then to her grandson.

[@participatoroftomfoolery]

One of the richest among us presidents, sure, richest person to ever hold office at all, not even close

[@tessat338]

@@participatoroftomfoolery Washington and Jefferson were maybe not so good with money.

[@HeadsetHatGuy]

​@@participatoroftomfoolery among us get out of my headget out of my headget out of my headget out of my head

[@participatoroftomfoolery]

@@HeadsetHatGuy bum... bum bubum bum bum bum baduh dum dudum

[@taylorbechstein1681]

She and George had a strained relationship, but even he said how much he respected her

[@David-oi7sb]

Stockholm syndrome

[@David-oi7sb]

It's literally Stockholm syndrome most people probably had it back then

[@Peach-Rush]

Gaslighting in levels I didn't even think were possible

[@juanmanuelpenaloza9264]

George Washington: Alright, screw this. Here's my tax records and expenses for the fiscal year. You'll notice there's a monthly withdrawal from the bank, going towards my mother, well above her monthly needs. I know I'm setting a precedent here, but it’s gonna get wild if presidential candidates have to show their taxes.

[@andrewjohnson1874]

If only...

[@Volkmargrim]

Rent free juan

[@AlexPastGrey]

Washington: I kept a record of every check in my checkered history, check it again against your list and see consistency

[@gamerstheater1187]

Regardless of how she treated Washington, he stole from him and slandered him to get more money, George should've disowned his mother

[@mirzaahmed6589]

You mean she stole from him.

[@prowlbeast1959]

@@mirzaahmed6589oh no a typo whatever shall i do

[@kringle7804]

@@prowlbeast1959 fix it. its not hard

[@Witchmee]

Disowning your mother wasn't a good look back then.

[@gamerstheater1187]

@@Witchmee I think people would understand if they found out she stole from him

[@Humankindperson]

The gull of that woman to say she was "poor" when she got a house for F R E E

[@David-oi7sb]

She Stockholm syndrome him

[@GodEmperorTrump]

The house still stands too it’s a historical site. Things 4 bedrooms and like 3,100 square feet it was absolutely enormous for the day. He also gave her 3 slaves

[@baconlord2545]

The true embodiment of, “let me carry your money for you.”

[@CaptainMasterZ]

Don't give her a pass for being overtly greedy and manipulative because she lost her husband and had to raise 5 kids on her own. That's who she was the whole time.

[@leandrocastello309]

Things like the passing of a loved one doesnt make you more prone to gaslight, that was just her toxic personality

[@andrewjohnson1874]

Umm, she was probably a teenager when she was married off, how much did she know about being a person in the world before then, cut the lady some slack, having people depend on you can certainly change how you behave

[@mohamedkamara7701]

@@andrewjohnson1874sure but that dose not excuse her action at all her doing mistake is one thing her slandering her son is a another

[@Witchmee]

Why was she widowed? Did she kill him??

[@kawaiionee-chan9557]

@@mohamedkamara7701ong like you don’t end up being rude and vicious to ones you love if your loved one died.

[@lankyboi5853]

POV George bring his friends as witnesses “SEE!! IM GIVING HER MONEY”

[@user-gi8pk9uc7q]

How embarrassing! Having a mom like that cannot have been fun or easy!

[@XArctracerX]

George: “See guys? I’m giving her this huge bag of money. I am taking care of my mother.” His friends: “dude we don’t care”

[@SuperEliasboi64]

She’s a gaslighter 😭

[@user-uj4ux9rn3r]

Nah, they didn't have gaslights back then, she's a stormlamp

[@chewycakezz867]

LMAOO​@@user-uj4ux9rn3r

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Well. At least she loved him and stopped him from joining the British. Flawed but loving.

[@Illier1]

Working in the Navy at the time was notoriously dangerous work. She probably knew if he went on a ship she'd never seem him again or, worse, lose out on her meal ticket

[@something1600]

He instead: joined the army, started the Seven years war which bankrupted Britain, forcing Britain to rise taxes on the colonies.

[@SlickSpeedy]

She stopped him joining the navy, not the British. He joined the British Army instead, killed a french diplomat, started one of the first truly global conflicts, bankrupted Britain, caused taxes to be raised, and then lead the rebellion over said taxes.

[@Progamermove_2003]

​@@SlickSpeedy Was Washington directly responsible for the killing of the French diplomats?

[@nighthunter3039]

​@@Progamermove_2003 If I remember correctly... yes.

[@user-un8ps2sm5l]

The faces George Washington makes in this animation are priceless!

[@DarnedYankee]

GW: Ok Mom but can I join the British Army? Mom: No, we have a Army at home. Army at Home: [Battle of Fort Necessity]

[@abgol8019]

That’s actually insane, I actually used to visit her house in Fredericksburg as a kid (it was part of this History Camp thing in the summer) and that house is easily better than most. She even had her own garden and a separate building for a kitchen if I recall, although i think that last point was standard for the time

[@theidioticgamer2886]

That frown on George's face after he pulled down the letter made me laugh so hard

[@NickAndriadze]

It's insane how much a singular, small and seemingly meaningless action can change the course of history so drastically. Not letting your son join the navy is craaazy!

[@pearlscruncle_303]

She’s the type of mom for someone to make a Reddit story about 😭

[@conorstapleton3183]

Time traveller: *moves chair* Admiral Washington: "You are part of the Rebell Alliance and a traitor!"

[@ethangarcia7287]

He really needed eye witnesses 😂

[@PlumWildThe3rd]

"Wanna join the British navy? Its like cool or something" His mom: Nah Id wont let you

[@Go_Cry_Bout_It]

Faking as if her son is mistreating her when hes doing the complete opposite is another level of greedy and petty.

[@DyslexicWarewolf]

A couple of good deeds does not negate the bad ones

[@ZBREAD.]

There were only a couple of bad deeds. She most likely supported his son a lot

[@kenny995]

​@@ZBREAD. They were a couple bad deeds, but they were very bad deeds which hold a lot of weight.

[@googane7755]

​@@ZBREAD.Supported his son only so that she could use him for money. Imagine gaslighting and slandering your son so hard that he has to bring witnesses everytime to prove he gives you money. It's extremely greedy behaviour.

[@nifynitm]

i read the thumbnail as “biggest worms in history” and even though that was horrendously wrong i am blaming you @extrahistory

[@cassiswyrm8121]

...I mean now I'm curious.

[@goldenstarmusic1689]

As someone with a little dyslexia this got me 😂

[@Top_LoneWolf]

Washington's annoyed faces are killing me they need be memes seriously

[@user-hw1rj8vj1f]

This mother of George Washington is a hit or miss for she lied but stopped George going to the British.

[@mirzaahmed6589]

She didn't stop George from "going to the British". He joined the British Army instead.

[@familyberente1407]

That is on some level funny but truly awful for a mother-son relationship

[@fishingmasterstudios9481]

shes not the worst but god DAMN shes petty 😂😂

[@meatkirbo]

Attempting to ruin your son’s reputation over a little extra cash is enough to land her on this list. Even if it’s “justified” it’s still not a good thing

[@rubylake7177]

Im sorry but the faces animated George is making are hilarious. 😂😂

[@michaeljebbett160]

I cannot tell a lie. My mom, on the other hand...

[@peacefulinvasion684]

"Hey John could I have you be a witness for something?"

[@hannarow1543]

How come I never saw a single one of your worst Dads in history without going to look for it, but worst moms is all over my feed.

[@GodEmperorTrump]

The house he bought her still stands it’s a historical site, the things 4 bedrooms and almost 2,900 square feet on 7 acres. Absolutely enormous by the days standards. He also gave her 2 slaves to handle everything in terms of cooking and cleaning. She was a horrible woman. And the part about her preventing him from joining the British navy was not out of the goodness of her heart or out of some patriotic spirit…British naval officers got paid relatively little and she was so obsessed with money and how others saw them that she would have died from shame if he was just a lowly naval officer. Not a very nice lady. It’s true she kept his father’s inheritance from not only George, but from his siblings as well. George may not have needed it but they damn sure did

[@Mr_Muda_Himself]

Ah so mothers have been screwing with their kid’s money for years now.

[@reallyoriginalname1221]

A major part of history is mother's selling their kids off for financial gain and political status. This has been a part of humanity ever since money was invented.

[@David-oi7sb]

And creating Stockholm syndrome too

[@shnawdude03]

That would be my face, for real!! lol.

[@dingolightfoot8823]

If it wasn't for her.. we'd all be sipping tea and complaining about everything.. oh wait, we do. 😂

[@vintage-radio]

"You see this, dude? I'm giving my mother money, and she got the NERVE to say I'm treating her like a peasant" -George Washington, 1778

[@bobcharlie2337]

She's not a bad mom. She was just spicy.

[@Femboy_Shota]

*cry baby

[@extrahistory]

😂

[@user-dp3td6bn1j]

​@@extrahistory Perfectly balanced as everything should be. 🗿 Mother

[@thebraveguy9808]

She did steal from him, and then complain to the public repeatedly because he apparently wasn't giving her enough money, while he was fighting to save the country from oppressors/ running said country. That's a bit much for her to be "spicy.

[@David-oi7sb]

​@@thebraveguy9808 he was Literally a victim of Stockholm syndrome his mom was a monster that warped his mind to be her lap dog it's sad

[@ajmorningstar6281]

She may not have been a bad mother but that is still kind of a dick move

[@mirzaahmed6589]

She was a bad mother.

[@Hungryymelon]

She made USA even a country

[@David-oi7sb]

She gave him Stockholm syndrome he was a victim

[@_blank-_]

Meanwhile their slaves: "You guys are getting paid??"

[@elderlich2090]

Georges annoyed face is so funny 😂

[@Bigolhusk]

"Refused to let him join" thats not what happened. He was denied.

[@thenablade858]

No, she dissuaded him from joining at 14. However, she couldn’t stop him from joining the disastrous expedition of Edward Braddock in 1755 to expel the French from Ohio Valley.

[@Bigolhusk]

@@thenablade858 I was mistaken for when he tried to join the redcoats

[@thenablade858]

@@Bigolhusk I forgot that happened. That’s hilarious.

[@fivelike11]

Honestly, intentions don't mean much to me if your mom ain't capable of acting reasonably towards her own son at least. Having lived isn't an excuse to try to destroy the reputation of the very son keeping you not just living, but living in luxury by o much making them look like a greedy scrooge. I feel like she only put on the facade of loving him to look good in the history books as all we have are records now, and to keep the money from her son coming.

[@David-oi7sb]

If you look up Stockholm syndrome and parental bonds you definitely see a pattern

[@Gh0uli0]

The face of Washington when he put the letter down was perfect 😭

[@Dreaming_Stray]

I love the expression she makes when she casually steals her own son’s inheritance

[@kingace6186]

Imagine trying to win independence from a imperial global superpower, while having to deal with a manipulative abusive mom. Washington deserves all the praise he gets.

[@Latenivenatrix_Mcmasterae]

This is less like a terrible mom and more like a “let me hold your Christmas card grandma gave you” sort of a deal

[@Blacattacsquadron]

"She really loved George". But kept his inheritance and used it for herself for 19 years! 5 kids with an inheritance each that she kept for herself. And constantly blackmailed and extorted her own son. That is the worst mom in history.

[@averycheesypotato]

To be fair though, she had other kids to raise. And while George could go off and have a long and successful career, her options were very limited given the time period they lived in. Besides, George Washington was pretty tight fisted with money himself. He would move slaves around to avoid emancipation laws, so he would not lose of them to the freedom they had earned

[@amyhipps650]

This still makes her a bad mom.

[@cjofulue5218]

The first face of Washington 😂😂😂 Bro is both extremely pissed and super done with his mother's bs😂😂😂

[@biancanapoles1725]

George's look when he HAS TO BRING IN WITNESSES is epic.

[@FittedSheetGaming]

“Alright you SEE me giving her the money right?? We all saw it? Can we go now?”

[@starfalls-.-]

I watch these shorts every time I get into a fight with my mom so I can appreciate her more.

[@docholiday4129]

The scowl on George’s face is comedy gold

[@aqu1no1]

Imagine changing history forever because you didn’t want your son to join the army.

[@samuelclark16]

Love the detail of the abxy button colors on your coat! Little easter eggs like this make me really enjoy your content!

[@ArcanineEspeon]

I don't wish to detract from the quality of the video, but it made me chuckle how the apostrophe in the title migrated from Washington's over to Moms.

[@RedKnight26]

Washington's mom was an living uno reverse card 😂😂😂😂😂

[@ThatoneguyJens]

Yeah, thats right! Moms can be uneasy sometimes, but she will always love you! So be carefull to never break your mothers heart!

[@captainc0rgi]

She was in fact not a good woman. You cant excuse that by saying she got widowed and had a 5 kids. (A number that i doubt would be considerable for the time)

[@also_arles]

If you told me that today I'd see Matt cosplaying a colonial soldier, I wouldn't believe you. But here we are!

[@George_M_]

You know what else is a bad look for him? Him and his family stalking and harassing a slave woman who escaped to New York for the rest of her life.

[@David-oi7sb]

Tbh everyone was fucked up and probably drinking lead I don't think anybody was in their right mind during that time of history maybe that's why there's a rise of mental health issues we might finally noticing the effects of the actions of the people before us

[@David-oi7sb]

Everyone was gone man people were drinking chemical cocktails I wouldn't be surprised if Schizophrenia and bipolar were the most common thing beside the flue and Tuberculosis

[@A-The-Great]

Such a horrible mom

[@ThePuppyBus]

Damn, even the president listened to his mama 👀

[@David-oi7sb]

Stockholm syndrome and parents go together like PBJ

[@mattladuke3992]

Bad, but for a good reason. That boy didn't know what was good for him 😂❤

[@Countrygirlhasrizz]

Nah, George’s face was like: 😠

[@raymondkwon1301]

imagine George Washington in the British Navy💀💀💀

[@amirudinadnan7024]

he then join the british army instead and fought against the french army during the 7 years war thus led to british victory.

[@AthenaMinerva-bn4xf]

Since he was bone of her eldest surviving children, she kept and tried to keep her son by her side. Including trying to butt in his affairs when he clearly didn't ask his mom to do it. She was a nosy, slandering mom but at least she kept him out of certain situations, like not letting him join the British navy.

[@lowfn]

Okay but why did you guys go SO HARD on that angry face for George, my goodness

[@danielboggan2479]

This woman did NOT love George. She made it clear his whole life that he could never make her happy and he was an eternal disappointment

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Love your content guys! Thanks For this 😊😊😊❤❤❤

[@garywray7998]

Keeping him out of the British navy makes her the best

[@AJA804VA]

Her house in Fredericksburg actually still stands and is a cool place to check out

[@huntclanhunt9697]

Kinda similar to my Great Grandma. Complains loudly that everyone mistreats her, but without a doubt loved us.

[@basvandepitte2917]

Imagine what would've happened if she would've been a slightly worse mother, no America means no reinforcements during WW1 and WW2, no cold war... dang. Though I guess the war would've been won without washington.

[@Progamermove_2003]

America would've stayed part of the British Empire, an active participant in both World Wars. So the reinforcements would've arrived nonetheless. Cold War might've gone completely different though.

[@David-oi7sb]

​@@Progamermove_2003what if they ended up turning Britain into the new America instead lol I feel like either way a revolution would still happen Whether or not George Washington was there

[@David-oi7sb]

​@@Progamermove_2003 Texas is a good example of what could've happened to us if we rejoined with Britain

[@yunsauce]

May be overdramatic, but her worries come from a place of care. Shout out to probably the most gray area moms in this series.

[@platannapipidae9621]

for a lot of people there comes the time, when one becomes a parent to their parents.

[@ShawnHoward-vt3mm]

The face after reading the letter is hilarious

[@maxclark7890]

Gold digger mom 🗿

[@bozomori2287]

Normal mom

[@londonmason6129]

Yep. The reason she kept him out of the British army was because they didn’t pay enough soldiers enough money for her liking.

[@felixbabuf5726]

I’m blaming George Washington’s mom not letting him join the Royal Navy for why this timeline went to hell.

[@familyberente1407]

I mean yes but there is so many other ppl from that time that you can blame. I have my person too

[@atomic747]

Um no, things is hell now is because we keep electing weak leaders.

[@em5522]

​@@atomic747tbf, it's not like the pickings are that great either. But yeah, idky we tend to stick with comparably terrible choices when we could at least make do with mediocre ones.

[@FrangkyMind]

Why?