The Great Disappointment - US History - Extra History

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The Great Disappointment! A historical mathematical miscalculation that foretold the second coming of Jesus Christ... or so we were told by William Miller. Who ended up creating an entire religion based upon his own charts and calculations he interpreted from the bible. Which was the start of some religions that are seen today!
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[@atari2600b]

Every time I hear the theme song you inherited when you bought the channel, I'm reminded of how bad the actraiser remake was.

[@Marinanor]

No man knoweth the day or the hour, but he is returning.

[@arandomhuman1996]

i love this video

[@christiandauz3742]

I wish the Ancient Sumerians focused more on Industrialization rather than Religion Then humanity would be much better off

[@Mitaka.Kotsuka]

have you guys ever heard of May 2011??? search for it...Harold Camping

[@MustardLadySaveMe]

my pastor LITERALLY believed the verse stating that "no man will know the day or the hour" of the 2nd coming. He said that anytime someone claimed to know the day the world would end, God would change it to another day even if he originally planned to end it on that day. Just to spite them for being a little too ambitious 😂

[@typemasters2871]

Rando: the end is near God: no it ain’t

[@BasicLib]

@@typemasters2871 epic trolling So that means a long as people keep predicting, the show will go on

[@Jacoboby1]

@@BasicLib God: Alright fire and brimstone here we- Angel: Uh, God, somebody predicted the end of the world would happen next tuesday. God: OH COME ON!! Alright guys pack it all away. Angels ready for a cleansing: Aww man... *Walks away sulking* God: Sorry guys, we'll just move it back again! Don't worry!

[@FistoftheSnackBar]

Cool, so all I have to do is keep saying it'll be "tomorrow" every single day, and I can delay the apocalypse for at least the rest of my life? Neat! Having the power to bully God is rad af!

[@calvin7330]

@@FistoftheSnackBar Basically the rapture will happen when everybody loses faith that it will happen

[@arcticlaw9198]

"The great disappointment" I didn't ever expect to get my own Extra Credits episode

[@earlt612]

oof

[@akonikun]

Damn, you beat me to it! 🤣

[@C.J.Taylor]

omg… umm… damn, idk what to say…

[@SWORDASH]

You are not a great disappointment since atleast millerites expected the second coming, your parents didn't expect you.

[@nps86]

I too felt this 😂

[@mollywantshugs5944]

Apparently Miller missed the bit where Jesus literally says that no one but God knows when the last day comes. Matthew 24:36 for anyone curious.

[@kaltaron1284]

@@johnathanjohnson7483 That would still give us a maximum timespan for the Second Coming although a pretty generous one.

[@AxDhan]

no, he missed the part where you have to add the fishes

[@problems3485]

@@johnathanjohnson7483 kinda states even if you did know when the end was supposed to happen you can’t know what timescale god was referring too their-fore when exactly it is supposed to happen

[@majordolmann2767]

@@kaltaron1284 Not necessarily, nobody said the lord would come in a day. Peter's just saying that at the end of it waiting will be worth it, no matter how much time it actually ends up being.

[@mckayleepugmire9947]

Plus Revelations and Isaiah noted down a lot of signs to look out for before it happens: wars, rumors of wars, metal birds (that one's kind of obtuse, but in John's defense there's no way he'd know what an airplane is at the time he wrote that), and more. I think it's happening soon, but soon is a non-specific period of time, and it's possible that if God let anyone know a specific date and time (at least now) it'd be much more tempting to do night-before-the-due-date work instead of just consistently working to be a better person.

[@santi2683]

Ironically, predicting the end of the world is directly stated as impossible in the Bible and even as heresy in many churches

[@AegixDrakan]

And yet some people STILL keep trying. XD

[@chewxieyang4677]

@@AegixDrakan After all, by theological necessity, the end of the world is a tidy resolution to a messy problem called Original Sin, and a promise of salvation. Add that to the typical situations that spurt such end times fervor, and you basically encourage end times predictions, so you can assure your faithful that they will survive the tides and troubles

[@bootleg8720]

@@chewxieyang4677 *prot necessity

[@TheNN]

As my dearly departed, and extremely religious grandmother once told me: "My dear, God's Day will come on February 32nd."

[@dominicguye8058]

🤣🤣🤣

[@spudsbuchlaw]

How long has it been since then?

[@spiffygonzales5160]

@@spudsbuchlaw R/whoosh

[@spudsbuchlaw]

@@spiffygonzales5160 Mr. Reddit, I got the joke initially

[@nuh_uh210]

“Don’t let the theologians lie to you, son, March 48th will be the Day of Reckoning.”

[@abcdef27669]

Suggestion: A series about the Cult of Reason and the Cult of the Supreme Being, created during the French Revolution. One or three episodes would be enough to cover it.

[@marcinwitkowski217]

Eventually 5 could be good enough

[@Tommylop1982]

Maxamillion Robespierre a real life Light Yagamei from deathnote

[@GeneralLuigiTBC]

I think it was a candidate on Patreon a while ago, though I don't remember what it lost to.

[@Owl_013]

Didnt knew that the Supreme Being cult started during the French Revolution, Sasuga Ainz Sama!

[@marcelostalker]

This sounds like an excellent idea.

[@otsogronberg6193]

How can someone who studied the bible that much have missed the part where it says that no man can know the hour of christs return? (Matthew 24:36 to 24:37)

[@ungatopensante]

Ni idea bro, y parece tan obvio

[@evanulven8249]

They also have a tendency to miss things like "treat others as you would have them treat yourself," "Love thy neighbor," that whole thing about shouting ones faith from rooftops, rendering unto Caesar what is Caesar's and unto God what is God's, keeping business out of the temple, letting those without sin cast the first stone, and other such unpopular and no-longer mainline christianity things like humility, generosity, mercy, understanding, and you know, actual faith. Going to a catholic high school did more to drive me away from the faith than any other influence.

[@em5522]

Tbf, there are many who've claimed to have studied the Bible yet miss out on so much in it.

[@abdulbasit4791]

the same is said in quran about the second coming of jesus and of the last hour by the signs that will come before.

[@JaimeNyx15]

Miller, probably: "Hmm, hmm. Yes. 'No one' can know the hour of Christ's return. "No one" is a pseudonym of Odysseus in the Odyssey, a well-known text in the early Roman empire. Odysseus was a genius war veteran who made an epic journey across the sea, and I too am a war veteran who has travelled at least one time and am super duper smart, if I do say so myself. Ergo, the Bible predicted that I would be the one to predict the hour of Christ's return!" tl;dr: People see what they want to see, smh.

[@c182SkylaneRG]

"When he's good and ready" is literally what the Bible says, too: "Like a thief in the night, you will not know when he is coming, until he is already here".

[@y_fam_goeglyd]

Not a very kind description of him, eh? But given how much has been stolen by the church, probably accurate.

[@jeffmcarthur5617]

I was raised Seventh-day-Adventist and we were taught this story as gospel over and over, (though from a rather different point of view.) I used to confuse the Great Disappointment with the Great Depression. After the events in this video, the Seventh-day-Adventists explained that on October 22nd, 1844, God had moved from one chamber into another, and had begun the final judgement of humanity. Like so many other things in the Bible, this didn't exactly make sense considering the fact that they were teaching that God was everywhere and had always been judging people, but they explained the last part as, "well now he's judging people even more!" and they sent me to the corner for questioning them. I was in trouble a lot in my religious grade school.

[@solsystem1342]

Oh geeze I forgot that's still a thing that happens. I'm sorry you had to go through that it sounds like a nightmare.

[@extrahistory]

😂 Question everything!

[@25malum]

Which school? Fellow former sda and I'm curious

[@nathang5336]

I'm pretty sure none of this baloney was ever in the Bible 😂

[@jeffmcarthur5617]

@@25malum George Stone in Lincoln, Nebraska. The system was actually a really good one, but the religious aspects were a huge problem.

[@oranjethefox8725]

Imagine being disappointed that the world didn’t end…

[@Foczo]

:0 SO TRUE

[@Just_Another_Gravemind]

I'm salty it didn't end in 2020

[@theotherohlourdespadua1131]

The premise of the world ending is that to those who fervently believed until the very end, they'd be rewarded for their faith and those who didn't be punished forever. Basically what the last parts of the Book of Revelation describes. I remember the Simpsons making an entire episode about that and the its consequences...

[@25malum]

@LeoTheBritish-Eurasian you have to realize they thought they were getting to go to heaven. they had sold most of what they owned to spread the word hadn't harvested crops. many of them went hungry and had to rely on neighbors charity, the worst thing to do, all while eating crow about being wrong. some of them still try to predict the date every few years. i left but after 3-4 false alarms i still dont know how they take it seriously

[@luisandrade2254]

To be fair in Christianity the world ending is more like paradise coming rather then everyone dying

[@fluffysheap]

Samuel Snow : "Jesus will return on October 22!" Jesus : "You know nothing, Sam Snow"

[@bhawnabansal1156]

This angered fluffysheap’s super religious father , who punished him - oh wait wrong channel.

[@111111310]

Huh, I actually was raised a Seventh-Day Adventist and learned all about this in a bible history class. Didn't expect to hear about it here, haha!

[@edisonlima4647]

Have you seen Knowing Better's video on the subject? It is quite intriguing, too, and a lot more complex, since his videos are longer. Not dissing on De Extra Credits, I love this channel, bit lenght of video affect how much can be said.

[@111111310]

@@edisonlima4647 I didn't know they did one on the topic as well. I'll have to take a look!

[@SmoothBaracuda]

Were you actually though?

[@christiandauz3742]

I suggest Eric Flint's Alexander Inheritance series A ship from 2017 ends up in 321 BCE. The Ancient civilizations now have Gunpowder Weapons and started the Industrial Revolution. Christianity and Islam never become dominant religions

[@DDWyss]

The number of Millerites was either 50,000 or 500,000, depending on whether days were days or years.

[@geckoo9190]

Now that is accuracy. I guess his descendants started a delivery business.

[@DDWyss]

@@geckoo9190 Many of them would go on to install cable TV for a living.

[@PHRCpvh]

Bible: "Jesus will come when the humanity least expects" Everyone: (Tries to predict when Jesus will come) Bible: "really bro?"

[@chinsaw2727]

Humanity: “If we keep predicting it then it will never occur then, right?” Rapture: (Happens next Wednesday) Humanity: “:0”

[@tessat338]

I had heard of the Millerites and the "Great Disappointment," and I had heard of the Seventh-Day Adventists but I had no idea that they were connected. Interesting!

[@nolunch4908]

as a seventh day Adventist myself we are all taught about the great disappointment in school / in church

[@yerma6847]

Cult religions

[@geckoo9190]

Makes sense, after the seventh day, monday follows, what bigger disappointment can you find in an average week?.

[@thebumblebeemovie3514]

@@geckoo9190 the seventh day is Saturday not Sunday. Saturday is the sabbath day/day of rest at the end of the week and Sunday is the new sabbath day at the start of the week.

[@JonPITBZN]

I've never seen Miller's chart, so I won't speculate on what he missed. But I know one thing that Snow missed for sure: “But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.” Matthew 24:36, a direct quote from Jesus about the second coming that should have warned him not to make predictions about the exact day.

[@SterbsMcGurbs]

It's crazy how many of these people profess to surely believe in the Bible but think they know when the Second Coming is

[@Tommylop1982]

Yeah it’s why I laugh at the end of the world preachers.

[@parkerthompson5819]

Tbf he wouldn’t say the hour or day. Although I guess it doesn’t work if days are years

[@seanellis5410]

Came here to say exactly this 😂

[@kevingriffith6011]

Surprise inspections don't work if the people you're inspecting know to clean up just before you come by. So it is in fast food, so it is in Christ. (I'm being silly here. Don't take me seriously)

[@ITSecurityNerd]

In his deciphering of the Bible... in EVERY deciphering of the Bible aimed at finding the date or time, HOW do people keep missing the following? "Noone knows the day or the hour" Or even WORSE, the statement that Christ HIMSELF doesn't know when he's coming back... But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

[@K9TheFirst1]

Hubris is a mighty powerful thing. These men and women also forget that passage about how God's wisdom is often seen as foolish by wise men.

[@solsystem1342]

God are we there yet?

[@ryancontino9752]

Millerites: So, when are you coming back? Jesus: I told you over 2000 years ago, I DON'T KNOW! For the love of Dad, can you PLEASE read the book my friend Matt wrote! He was sitting RIGHT THERE when I said it!

[@sriramhrishikesh9844]

Technically speaking, Miller himself didn't predict the day and hour, just a window of time. So he could have claimed he technically didn't do that.

[@K9TheFirst1]

@@sriramhrishikesh9844 Unfortunately, God doesn't really do technicalities.

[@1844.Failed]

Today is October 22, 2023, which marks the 179th year since the predicted calculations of William Miller failed to materialize. *Happy Great Disappointment Day!*

[@aslandus]

It just goes to show that no matter how clever or well reasoned you might think you are, no matter how skeptical you try to be, and no matter the number of people who you can convince, you are not immune to being swept up in hype.

[@eedobee]

Yes I am

[@abcdef27669]

"The Great Disappointment". Never thought I would see an Extra History episode about my life...

[@mattshipley182]

Damn, beat me to it 😂

[@dreadpirateroberts1358]

I WAS 10 MINUTES TOO LATE

[@IowanMatthew683]

2:22 Shout out to the brilliant "Two Soyjacks Pointing" meme reference. You guys made my day, lol

[@Jestersage]

I am surprise you didn't mention the cousin to Seventh Day Adventist: the Jehovah Witness. As the founder of the "Bible Student" movement, Charles Taze Russell later stated that "I confess indebtedness to Adventists as well as to other denominations", as it did started out as an Adventist Bible study group.

[@TheGeniuschrist]

@@user-qv4np3ur5w But they all split the money though.

[@Jestersage]

@@user-qv4np3ur5w Fair enough.

[@MrT3a]

I can't help but read Jenova Witness every time this group is mentioned.

[@abbott75]

@@user-qv4np3ur5w theyve given multiple, 1914, 1918, 1925, 1975, "before 2000".

[@TheNN]

As a former one myself, I can get where someone would come from with that.

[@sd-ch2cq]

The concept of a 'great dissapointment' is interesting. But afaik most of the religions that sprung from it just kept predicting new dates untill that got too silly and it became just 'soon'. Nobody seems to have really learned anything from it 😔

[@adriennegormley9358]

One of the groups had predicted it would happen in 1914. Not gonna name it here LOL. Thing is, when nothing seemed to show in the real world, they never changed their song; instead, they said, "Oh, it happened, but the only people who noticed were the true believers; the rest of us are living in hell."

[@ochunks2468]

@@adriennegormley9358 It's Jehovah's Witnesses, for anyone curious.

[@fluffysheap]

Seems like they learned to stop trying to predict the day!

[@iapetusmccool]

@@adriennegormley9358 the excuse I've heard from JW is "1914 is when it _started._ The World War proves it".

[@andrewprahst2529]

September 2028 don't @ me

[@adriangaushausindahaus20]

I am an Seventh-day Adventist and I approve this message 😃. Big fan of the channel and was very surprised to see this here. Thank you and great job!

[@warfjm]

I've never understood why these guys completely ignore Matthew 24:36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." Even again at Matthew 24:42 "Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come."

[@K9TheFirst1]

Hubris. People like these guys just cannot stand the idea that someone knows better than themselves. They are essentially the kids that stick beans in their ears and need to be taken to the hospital to get them out, even though Mom and Dad told them exactly that would happen.

[@shzarmai]

EXACTLY everyone ignores this smh

[@MunchKING]

He didn't predict a day or an hour, just a calendar year. :P

[@logandepino8417]

Lesson to be learned "“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man." - Matthew 24:36-24:37 ya we dont know that second coming happening gonna be real with ya.

[@andyjay729]

I like how you rendered Samuel Snow's initial's as "SaS". Because "SS" kinda has some extra baggage to it.

[@cactusman1771]

Super sport? Like on chevy's camaro and chevelle.

[@irrelevant_noob]

@@cactusman1771 SchutzStaffel...

[@gabrielgarcia9822]

@@cactusman1771 Nah, that's silly. Sussy Spots

[@ACDBunnie]

???

[@joetownsend6325]

And yet they're both crazy christians. 🤪

[@25malum]

Former SDA here. Its fascinating they focus so heavily on miller. so much so i didn't know about snow. also for those interested they interpret the disappointment as Christ entering the holiest place of the heavenly temple to begin judgement.

[@globalincident694]

how long does judgement take?

[@25malum]

@@globalincident694 theres a lot of us an SOME of us keep sinning! kidding yeah this was a big part of why i lost patience.

[@loke6664]

I think it likely have to do with Snow being a bit unstable in older days, like claiming he was Elijah. Miller's prediction can rather easily be explained away with him missing something, making a calculation error or maybe counting from the wrong point (maybe Jesus birth or death instead of the rebuilding of Jerusalem?) History is however full of people who have used cryptic passages in the Bible to predict world events and their track record so far is rather bad for future event.

[@25malum]

@@loke6664 you are probably right. Weird part is the part about snow naming the exact date is something they credit Miller with.

[@gv1lle]

@@25malum Current SDA here. That is an interesting take! I have to look into that myself (as in what's the story there).

[@revanius2213]

'He'll return when he's good and ready' honestly that seems pretty obvious

[@gargoyles9999]

He’s finishing up his training in the Hyperbolic time chamber.

[@MikeShadow1]

I've always wanted to say this. I've always been amazed about our history. And I've discovered your channel through your Sengoku Jidai series. And after watching this series my love for history exploded and I've watched your channel since. Greetings and a Dankeschön from germany! 🇩🇪

[@jantro2884]

Lmao the Wojack in 2:23 killed me, also: love your work guys keep it up :D

[@andrewprahst2529]

Lol didn't even notice

[@brockmckelvey7327]

And then many, many years later, Mat Groening would use this as the basis of The Simpson's episode "Thank God, It's Doomsday"

[@sdastoryteller3381]

Yes!!! I was hoping someone would reference this episode!!

[@YukoValis]

Yes he studied every chapter of the bible front to back to determine the end of the world. Except he decided to skip this one chapter. I think it was Matthew 24:36? No real reason, probably not important...

[@diarradunlap9337]

The Jehovah's Witnesses have done EXACTLY that in 1874, 1878, 1914, 1925, and 1975, to name a few years of "the end of this system of things."

[@victor-oh]

He was blinded by his own self-grandiose of uncovering every "mystery" of the Bible.

[@edisonlima4647]

This was a nice introduction to the topic, but Knowing Better made an AMAZING series of videos on the Great Disappointment and the history of all the sects and religions that sprung out of it. I would definitely recommend as a follow up.

[@gv1lle]

Yep! Still looking forward to an eventual video of his video on Seventh-day Adventists as the main focus. But his latest video on "Neoslavery" is simply phenomenal!

[@ryanstewart434]

I can't wait for that video on the SDA

[@GameyRaccoon]

Knowing Better isn't exactly amazing.

[@Megaspartan23]

William Miller. The Harold Camping of his time.

[@theeasternemperor3410]

As an SDA I thank you for this video Extra credit

[@gv1lle]

Here, here!!! It is very, very well done!

[@glennjoie9394]

As an Adventist fan of this series, this was amazing to see! 😊

[@PakBallandSami]

William Miller published a pamphlet in 1833 and a book of lectures in 1836, the first of many publications. Principal organs of the Millerite movement were the Signs of the Times (Boston) and the Midnight Cry (New York). Miller estimated that between 50,000 and 100,000 believed in his views. When 1843 passed, some of his associates set Oct.

[@LittleBitVic]

I don't think I've ever not laughed at a Nick DeWitt visual joke on any of his contributions to the full-length EC videos. His art style, punctuated animation, and comedic timing serve as built-in advertising of a renaissance person's many creative skills. May many more Extra series to come sport his return!

[@RRyleM]

Thanks for posting this on Sabbath 🤣. Yeah the SDA church has weird roots. It’s kind of weird in general, also Miller seems to have taken the fall for the Great Disappointment moreso than Snow

[@eyeguyart8685]

THE SOYJAKS AT 2:24 ARE KILLING ME

[@user-ly9oe9vs5d]

I must give Duncan special respect for the ability to find such interesting facts from history.

[@derAlphabet]

Another great episode. Thank you!

[@DamonNomad82]

One of my favorite channels covering one of my favorite historical events? Awesomeness squared!

[@PakBallandSami]

"Wee Willie Winkie rins through the town, Up stairs and doon stairs in his nicht-gown, Tirling at the window, crying at the lock, "Are the weans in their bed, for it's now ten o'clock?" -William Miller,

[@parkerthompson5819]

This is way more fascinating than the two sentence version you learn in history class

[@CactusJackIV]

Keep up the great work, love the channel!

[@kenster8270]

These looming doomsday prophecies seem to pop up in pretty much every generation simply because there is a desire/need/market for them. Think Nosferatu, QAnon, Rasputin, or the whole 2K Mayan calendar thing. Some people crave drama and a sense of purpose.

[@AegixDrakan]

People also kind of have trouble conceiving of the world going on without them and eventually completely forgetting them after their death. Someone once said this about death: "It's not death itself that upsets us. It's the concept of the story of our lives not having a resolution or a conclusion". and it kinda rings true.

[@iapetusmccool]

Nosferatu is a vampire. I think you mean Nostradamus.

[@kenster8270]

@@iapetusmccool Haha, yes you're right

[@CrimsonBlasphemy]

The second coming of Jesus is just a long running doomsday myth. It is there to keep the flock pinned. "Be good children, for I could return at any point and judge you for your (mis)deeds." Every Teacher and Parent knows this tool. So do other authority figures, corporate bosses and intrusive governments. Perhaps that's why the Second Coming continues to hold the grip it does. It's so... parental. People who want the Rapture, just want the thrill of being able to taddle on their "naughty" siblings (aka anyone who doesn't conform to their ideology and world view).

[@lorrainescripture8060]

Fitcher's Brides, by Gregory Frost, is set during the lead up to the Great Disappoint, inspired by Bluebeard and The Fitcher's Bird.

[@alexbrown7890]

As a seventh day adventist I can say we believe Miller got the date right but the event wrong.

[@Ricvictors]

2:58 Extra Credit’s animation isn’t always smooth, but when it is it’s friggin epic

[@affinityforanime]

I love that the ad at the end of this video is World Anvil. Very fitting!

[@LuisFlores-xu4fg]

This event Led to the foundation of my church, seventh-day Adventist

[@tallmikbcroft6937]

Awesome. Thank you for sharing history

[@MusicalMarble]

You can see a movie the Adventists made about it that really captured the spirit of the time. It’s called Tell the World, and despite some act two problems, it’s pretty good.

[@GamesbiteRtDL]

Seven Day adventists be waiting for the second coming,but the Jewish still waiting for the first one

[@edwardmcintosh7952]

I hope we get an episode on Bonhoeffer, Neimoller, and the Confessing Church movement.

[@jonathanholmgren5103]

Pretty interesting. I hadn’t heard of the great disappointment before. Also seeing the inclusion of Martin Crane’s recliner gave me a good chuckle.

[@MarcMagma]

I love this editing even more than I do the usual one.

[@vanDaalstad]

for such a funny story this is probably one of the better "we're in the Darkest timeline" examples, as many of the religions that were continuations of this way of thinking still persist to this day and are closer to QAnon than anything else.

[@milita6391]

As a seventh day adventist myself I was pretty excited to see a episode on this! From our perspective the date was correct(days = years is something common in prophetic intepretation) but the event was misintepreted, the "sanctuary" wasnt the earth but rather the heavenly sanctuary that the original tabernacle from the Exodus was fashioned off.

[@ungatopensante]

Yea

[@gv1lle]

Same here!

[@sdastoryteller3381]

Yeah boi! Totally agree this is a story I believe needs to get out there especially as many more predictions of Jesus's return pop up during every global event.

[@Keonny77]

I am a Seventh-day Adventis and that's right. No date setting. This was fairly accurate.

[@servaosservaos8940]

The art on this episode is really good!

[@nplt8263]

I can't believe that they really thought that, didn't the Bible literally say no man can know the hour or the day? Also, I'm surprised no one claimed Jesus came back BUT we just don't know where he is yet.

[@lukekeiper9628]

I don’t think they claimed that because the way the Bible describes the second coming it will be very clear that he is here when he comes

[@Sleatertr]

From Europe here, I get often the impressionthere're lotsa people in America who feel entitled to live the 2nd coming in their lifetimes. No idea why

[@ElficGuy]

True Christians feel entitled to NOTHING good. But are willing to accept the gifts of grace.

[@andrewprahst2529]

It's really hard to resist when we were born exactly 2000 years after Christ was, and that we're coming up on 2000 years after he died

[@Sleatertr]

@@andrewprahst2529 the calendar calcullations are flawed, you knew that?

[@hawkjo]

The standard day=year justification is Ezekiel 4:6 - “I have appointed thee each day for a year.” And also somewhere in numbers. Neither obviously linked to prophecy, but an easy deduction for such a man of reason.

[@zachshanker9947]

What the heck? I literally just learned about this yesterday and then EH does a video? Amazing!

[@calebhightower6676]

Wow! I’m really honored Extra credits did an episode entirely about me!

[@yernoi2167]

i never though i would see the day extra history did a episode about miller and the seventh day adventists.

[@thatScoutdog]

I've been waiting for someone to do a video on this (un-theologically biased) for a while now and glad i found this. But this only scratches the surface. I hope you have a vid in the works for 'the third great awakening' down the line

[@bizmen81]

This was interesting, thank you.

[@SterbsMcGurbs]

Imagine believing in an all knowing God that says you won't know when He comes back and thinking you're so smart that you know when He comes back.

[@nessesaryschoolthing]

Considering Mormons started around the same place and time as this, I was curious how they factored into this. From what I gathered from Googling it, it seems Joseph Smith didn't believe in this stuff, though some LDS members did.

[@Gnoff123]

SDA here. Great to see Extra History cover a topic that is relevant for my church :D And yes, the Millerites had an explaination for the matt 24:36 passage I just don't rememeber it now. I think it had something to do with the parable of the wise and foolish virgins.

[@CaptainSacarius]

love the art in this episode

[@ItsTheFizz]

The Great Disappointment was basically QAnon 1.0

[@scottanos9981]

More like bernie bros paying his campaign for the 5th time

[@SL-fd5fp]

As everyone has been quoting the obvious "no man shall know the day" yada yada verse I shall point out that many of the orthodox churches Greek Orthodox/ Roman Catholic and staunch Protestant churches would treat this type of interpretation as numerology/fortelling the future and as such a form of witchcraft and strictly forbidden.

[@edisonlima4647]

I'm not sure if they would call it "witchceaft" exactly, but yeah, divination was usually frowned upon, and when done using the Bible it would probably be seen as tantamount to heresy.

[@robbycarr1905]

It’s really interesting in how during this time (first half of the 19th century) there was a lot of new theological discussion especially around the second coming. You had the millerites and others like Darby who developed the idea of the rapture

[@Hiram_Bates]

Today is October 22, 2022. Happy Great Disappointment Day everyone!

[@NeverDoubtTheWorm]

Oh my Goodness!! My Church is based off of this!! I can’t believe it! I’ve never seen a secular resource reference this before! I am literally shocked 😮! Excited too! (edit: Seventh Day Adventist here!)

[@napolien1310]

Now that's what we call a Bruh moment.

[@cooperdiehr5116]

3:30 i do not know why but i find þis expretion amazing

[@unovayellow6953]

it's just so interesting as to how belief works on a personal level that they kept saying it will happen soon, and also interesting that the "masses" despite usually being seen as unquestioning, where more reasonable than the leaders

[@christopherjustice6411]

You know nothing, Samuel Snow.

[@scottanos9981]

Today's forecast: 8 inches of Snow

[@chimerastonewall3471]

As a Seventh-day Adventist I felt that this video was pretty accurate the only thing that I would discredit them for is that they didn’t get too much into the beliefs of Seventh-day Adventist and how we believe that it was simply just a start of a new church

[@zacharydoodson9396]

A really well made video @Extra Credits, very interesting! As Matthew 24 says (among many other scriptures!), "the day and hour will be unknown".

[@ScabiousGarde]

The puzzle piece fitting into being a crystal ball near the end was real cool

[@matthewegan5281]

So, did Miller actually check the original translation about the 2300 days thing, or was he just taking it on faith that this was the case? I mean, it's not like the Latin or even Hebrew texts were missing. He literally could've asked a single Catholic bishop, or even rabbi, to check his math.

[@cygnahoshiko4629]

talk to a CATHOLIC? or worse, a JEW?! about JESUS?!!! NEVER!!!!!!

[@BasicLib]

@@cygnahoshiko4629 lol 😂

[@Mystictiki]

@@cygnahoshiko4629 There were a few Protestants in the early 1800s who knew and understood Hebrew just as well as many Jewish Rabbi and Roman Catholic priests. Furthermore, there wasn't a well-educated man in America at the time who hadn't read the entire Bible.

[@cygnahoshiko4629]

@@Mystictiki I'm sure they had! Miller was not an uneducated man. But many Protestants of the time (and...this time) considered Catholics non-Christians and Jews sub-human, and would *never* admit that they might have anything to add to a Biblical discussion. (Admittedly, a rabbi wouldn't have any special knowledge about the Christian Testament, for obvious reasons. But we LOVE doing stupid math about things not meant to have math done to them. Look up "gematriya".)

[@Mystictiki]

@@cygnahoshiko4629 Most Protestant confessions such as the Westminster Confession and the very similar 1689 Second London Baptist Confession explicitly refer to the Papacy as an Antichrist. Admittedly, I had Hugenot ancestors who fled from France and also ended up fleeing Maryland because the Roman Catholic Church was just as completely intolerant if not more so depending largely upon the location.

[@JacksonYT198]

Why did you make a episode on me?

[@bill884]

happy easter everyone!!!

[@peshkybee7721]

There's so much interesting history to "second coming prophets" I hope y'all do follow up episodes exploring the topic :>

[@joinmarch76]

Samuel Snow: Hello, internet! Welcome to BIBLE THEORY, the show that doesn't exist, but give it enough time, MatPat would find a way.

[@orangetabby7122]

Miller's evidence is trust me bro.

[@PitLord777]

In a way, the world did end for William Miller and Samuel Snow at their specified dates. When no one came at the 'Second Coming', their life's work, the worlds they built, their pride and achievements, crumbled before them.

[@dracone4370]

I've actually been hit with ideas for holiday campaign concepts fairly recently, and also got hit with character concepts. I have them posted over on one of the D&D subreddits, so I can share links with anyone interested.

[@deepseastonecore3017]

If your 50 miles fron your destination and you're driving 50 mph and every mile you decrease your by1 mph, how long will it to drive that 50 miles?

[@sorryperson92]

If you travel at 50 miles per hour for the first mile, you will be traveling at 50/60 miles per minute or 60/50 minutes per mile. Then you decrease to 49 miles per hour for the next mile, so by the same logic you will be traveling at 49/60 miles per minute or 60/49 minutes per mile. This continues all the way down to 1 mph. All you have to do is calculate the value of the sum 60/50 + 60/49 + 60/48 + ... + 60/3 + 60/2 + 60/1 and you will get the total number of minutes. If you calculate it you get about 270 minutes or about 4.5 hours.

[@blaster915]

This feels like a mentat from Dune with their confidence in their reasoning whose conclusion will never come no matter how hard they try with their logic

[@dstyKchp]

Going insane over panel 2:24. Your artists pack in so much eye candy

[@Lian_PH]

Can't Believe Extra History Made a Video About us! *"The Great Disappointment"*