This Case from Illinois is an Example of Why We Can Never Win

[@windycity3485]

The FOID card is unconstitutional by itself

[@aquariumdude7829]

And?

[@PlantDaddy1991]

​@@aquariumdude7829, and what? It shows that Illinois courts are making legal decisions based illegal laws that attempt to suppress Constitutional law (and by their very nature, federal law) in order to injure citizens both directly and by proximity.

[@aquariumdude7829]

​@PlantDaddy1991 The point is they don't care and nobody is going to stop them anyway.

[@PlantDaddy1991]

​@@aquariumdude7829, no shit.

[@michaelyork1434]

Fuck illinois

[@dennisstrange5035]

And the citizens spend their money to file their case and their tax dollars are use to fight against them....what a load of 💩!!!!

[@smokesandalloy9487]

Hope they do it again and file for compensation this time.

[@Marinealver]

People should pay for their own interrogations.

[@scottwinkle5503]

Illinois has the best judges that Governor Pritzker's money can buy. This is Illinois, corruption, especially in the Chicago area has been the norm for a long time.

[@GRT1865]

In this state you can "buy" your opponent so they win their primary. Also "buy" your judges to avoid things you don't like. Just some thoughts.

[@Lightning613]

Ever since Al Capone & the Daley family decided to help each other . . .

[@Blackheart7-5]

Yea, I'm from that Shithole. Reside in the burbs. My Dad grew up living near the Daley's whom 2 generations ruled chicago as mayors. He knew them all. And they were corrupt in the 50's! I ask myself how the F---K do they get awa with all this shit. 90+% of this state is red. Republican. But the areas that are libtard controlled(democratic strongholds) are the major cities. Chicago,Peoria,Rockford. Cook County (Chicago's county) is a huge one. It is such a population dense area and, unfortunately, mostly liberal. So the rest of us have no chance. Good ole Rod Blagojevich even sat down and said how corrupt Illinois was when he was governor. This was after President Trump pardoned him. Governors and Mayors along with DA's, SA's, comptrollers, chief of police all work together. ILLINOIS has record people leaving it because it's a lost cause!

[@markkeller9378]

In Chicago, since its inception.

[@richardprice5978]

@@Lightning613 no go back further than 1890's as smith's/LDS was rap'd up in scandalous accession's in illinois to MO to NYC ect and in slc-ut but by that period it's Brigham as hyrm/Joseph was barry'd-6ft

[@chrishelms1967]

$4,000,000 from Pritzger to those two Supreme Court Judges is how

[@rodbonjovi]

He should be in Prison

[@kennethstaszak9990]

@@rodbonjovi And so should the justices!

[@ZxAMobile]

@@rodbonjoviBribing should be illegal af. Lobbying = bribing.

[@HansKillinger]

Very similar situation happened to me. Feel for ya brother

[@onemoremisfit]

There will be more and more of these kinds of courts that are reliable to the cause of "progress". Progress views itself as morally right so it has no moral dilemma about cheating. Since you can't cheat while they can, you will keep steadily losing, little by little.

[@gund2281]

The corruption in Illinois makes Ukraine blush

[@justme-dm7sb]

Oh, you mean Russia.

[@aquariumdude7829]

​@@justme-dm7sbActually, Russia has more freedom than we do these days. 😊 🇷🇺

[@justme-dm7sb]

@@aquariumdude7829 As people who speak against putin are rotting in prison. Like your own comments much....

[@gund2281]

@@justme-dm7sb Both can be true.

[@gunztommiegunz]

@@justme-dm7sbUkraine is widely known as the most corrupt in the world.

[@poolhub89]

The IL court ADMITTED there was deprivation of rights (twice in the brief). "a right delayed is a right denied"!!

[@shawnclawson890]

But to democrats rights are temporary privileges given by the state not god

[@garrettstiles7808]

Admitted it happened then denied them on the concept that it might happen again because that’s “speculative.” Amazing. Talk about reasoning backward from a conclusion.

[@killmeds4530]

This is why I hate this state. Just another reason

[@aquariumdude7829]

You should move already. It's only going to get worse.

[@killmeds4530]

@@aquariumdude7829 would love to but don’t have much equity in my house to because able to sell yet and also have a few more years on my job contract.

[@TownersMoments]

@@aquariumdude7829 i’m sure most of the people who feel the same way as this person would if they could, but because of the economical BS that’s going on in this state. A lot of the citizens who live in this state are unable to move, even if they want to.

[@aquariumdude7829]

@@TownersMoments I won't deny that. Some people probably do feel trapped there.

[@albowrx]

​​@@aquariumdude7829We are waiting fir these RE markets to implode. Meanwhile, I am living life as we are where we are supposed to be, with gardens, fruit trees, animals, heating with wood. You get the jest on where we intend to move to. Btw, we live in Shitcago.

[@johnsoutherland6788]

Was a resident of Illinois before military service after military service. Wanted to be law abiding! Got the FOID card application. Realized how intrusive it was. Worked on leaving the state! Now a resident of Missouri and much happier!

[@byronperry6014]

Thank you for your service.

[@jiminman3990]

Thank you for your sacrifice. We have our mothers,92 yrs old to take care of or we would be out of area too. What's good area In miss😊Missouri left? Area of good folks? 👍

[@quitequiet5281]

Congratulations!🇺🇸🦅

[@clintonm2357]

My wife followed me from station to station and when I retired, she got to pick. She wanted to be near her parents and sister... so I am in Illinois. I'm glad you escaped, though!

[@donaldrowland6464]

I did the same thing born and raised in Illinois finally got fed up with the corruption and moved to Missouri 4 years ago

[@Richard-vf2yd]

165 millionaires left Illinois last year.. And taking an estimated six to eight BILLION DOLLARS with them ! This is why Illinois is REALLY LOSING people, money and talent.

[@aquariumdude7829]

Pretty soon, Illinois will have only the poor and illegal aliens left as constituents! 😂

[@aquariumdude7829]

Pretty soon, Illinois will have only poor people and illegal migrants as constituents! 😂

[@aquariumdude7829]

Pretty soon, Illinois will only have illegals and poor people as constituents! 😂

[@aquariumdude7829]

Pretty soon, Illinois will have only poor people and criminals for constituents.

[@bdc211]

good

[@Johnny-y7j]

The FOID card is unconstitutional and they need to get rid of it!!

[@aquariumdude7829]

Dude, that simply won't happen.

[@zayzay542]

VOID THE foid

[@shawnclawson890]

They will as soon as pigster gets his way and bans gun ownership completely which he is trying...

[@Curious425]

Pass a law requiring anyone posting an article in any platform that would go to more than 10 people not related to them by blood or marrage, to requure a state issued press credentials card. See how well that goes over.

[@aquariumdude7829]

​@@Curious425Great. Run for office and try to put your bill on the floor if you get elected. 😊

[@tlwisner]

Corruption is Illinois government.

[@IrelandLochlin]

Exactly

[@aquariumdude7829]

Yep.

[@aquariumdude7829]

In the end, people get the government they deserve.

[@shawnclawson890]

Pigster knows better than to leave office he'll be in prison with our last 4 governor's

[@JohnnyWilliams-FreeMan]

Every Thiefdom... Government.

[@leonardjanda6181]

The Governor paid off 2 judges if not 3

[@Marinealver]

Only 2 was needed, shame on the last judge for being too slow to take the bribe.

[@dstock9855]

I don't understand why the Supreme Court isn't involved with all of this corruption

[@roberttaylor6030]

He said in the next sentence that he's given all the Illinois Supreme Court justices money. That's why he said it would be ridiculous for those two to recuse themselves.

[@dstock9855]

@@roberttaylor6030 they're bribes

[@Rockwoodrebel]

Spent 3 years fighting a felony charge in Illinois, after it was all dropped to misdemeanors it took 4 years of appealing to the ISP to get my FOID reinstated

[@chadrossiter156]

26 yrs for a criminal misdemeanor domestic battery on my brother still haven't got my foid

[@aquariumdude7829]

That's a long time.

[@zayzay542]

IS 🐖 sucks 🥜

[@shawnclawson890]

They still after almost 25 years wont reinstate mine, foid is one step from consfiscation

[@KM-zn3lx]

Yet Illegal immigrants have all sorts of guna!

[@DannyS.-qv4sr]

Just solidifies the concept , guilty until proven innocent ! Exactly how this all works now !

[@amateurism1]

Illinois sucks, never move there. We're all trying to leave.

[@markmarkofkane8167]

Because the Supreme Court of the United States do not send people to enforce their rulings.

[@robertcuny934]

President Jackson commented on one Supreme Court ruling to the effect that the supreme court should enforce their ruling as he will not enforce it 😉

[@Clearanceman2]

SC doesn't have a police force. IF the feds agree with the SC, then they might enforce the ruling (desegregation in the 1960s is a good example). However, in this case, the regime in washington hates gun owners and is all for this type of situation. And IL voters will elect more people in Washington and IL that will expand gun control every year. Newsome in CA signed 18 gun control bills last week. And each one takes years to go through the courts with no guarantee of ever being overturned.

[@jasonharrison25]

Thats the job of the executive branch. Unfortunately the person heading that branch hates the constitution and specifically the supreme court. So they will not enforce the laws as written or interpreted by the supreme court

[@user-zu5do6ri6r]

@Clearanceman2 The federal government has signed a treaty with the UN agreeing to disarm all Americans by 2030.

[@Lightning613]

They can’t. The Executive Branch upholds laws based on Court decisions. Good luck from a corrupt DEM Regime Executive Branch and DoJ + DHS.

[@petertimmins6657]

Whenever you need a permit to exercise a Constitutional right then it isn’t a right but a privilege, which they can deny or revoke whenever they want.

[@Despiser25]

A permit is what the Government gives you when it steals your rights then sells them back to you.

[@glashoppah]

The only thing that makes it a right is your *willingness and capability to defend it.* A right cannot be taken from you, it can only be *surrendered*.

[@dan32one44]

The problem is people don’t unite and go in front of the courts and make noise so others can see the bias corrupt judges..

[@gregorycampbell9967]

Once again, it’s ridiculous the lengths of linguistic gymnastics that lawyers and judges take to effectively ignore THE Constitution of the United States! The very constitution that keeps them safe and free!!

[@fredcarbery3966]

They may not be safe 4 long

[@bdc211]

​@@fredcarbery3966 its waaaaayyyyy overdue...

[@josephland8876]

@WashingtonGunLaw Thank you for spending the time to bring Illinois's suppression of the 2nd ammendment to national light and keep us updated.

[@garrettschienschang7898]

4 of our last 10 governors have been arrested. What did you expect?

[@raywilliams1493]

Sue the ISP and the FOID board under a 1984 deprivation of rights under color of law ?

[@LarryFord-io5hz]

OLD STORY IN ILLINOIS. I KNEW PEOPLE WHO LEFT THE STATE AS LONG AGO AS 1970 DUE TO THEIR GUN LAWS.

[@gunztommiegunz]

What gun laws? Carry? Just curious I’m 39 up until pica we didn’t have any more than any other state and that was just a couple years ago but carry is another story

[@mcpig3240]

Yup, my Grandparents moved to VA due to IL's stupid laws on firearms. Family has been in Chicago area since the 1840s.

[@RayR0041]

They can do this because our judicial system sucks!!!

[@michaelsecrest7183]

Sucks where Dem’s rule

[@aquariumdude7829]

Welcome to the Democrat's Kingdom of Illinois!

[@RideWithYaH]

You misspelled bought.

[@jeffhays1968]

Courts love moot cases. Saves them the work of doing their job.

[@montestu5502]

And also claiming people don’t have standing so they can toss the case out.

[@CrispyChicken38]

I hate the idea of standing. If it can effect me, I should have standing. ​@@montestu5502

[@nocomments1155]

Would have been a lot easier to kick Chicago out when we won the vote to do so.

[@kurthodges85]

This exact thing happend to me in 2012. Innocent until proven guilty does not apply in Illinois.

[@MrMajikman1]

It does now, but only for the criminals. Hence, the "SAFETY Act"

[@jeffwestbrooke279]

As an IL res my FOID is currently suspended. I cried because my wife cheated on me and she claimed it was emotional abuse to get an OP. I had no opportunity to defend myself, had to surrender my FOID card, and didnt see my kids for 8 weeks because of her lies and infidelity.

[@Clearanceman2]

Red flags, liberal dream to eventually disarm everyone. "I hate bad weather" Unstable! "I hate monday" Unstable!

[@F80mthree]

Hang in there buddy. For real. You’ll make it out on top if you just keep on going. Fight it in court. Go from there.

[@aquariumdude7829]

I'm so sorry, man. My ex-sister-in-law was a crazy woman too. I sympathize completely. 😔

[@nopenoperson9118]

reverse the genders in this situation though and we all know how much of an outcry there'd be about leaving a woman defenseless.

[@juanortiz1579]

Welcome to Illinois red flags law

[@afnDavid]

Just like Pontius Pilate did. These judges do the exact same thing!

[@wilburlahmann7972]

There another problem with Illinois FOID and other state laws that require every time you purchase ammunition or a firearm requires another background check. Get a concealed carry there is another background check. As well waiting period for obtaining the firearm that’s protected to own by Constitutional law. My question is how many background checks and waiting periods are considered deliberate delays to deny the right to keep and bear firearms by Bruen?

[@pierowmania2775]

The Illinois State Police will run a background check on all CCW holders EVERY MONTH. That's why the uneducated always say that Illinoisians are buying massive amounts of firearms. They base that on the number of NICS checks.

[@daexion]

All of them.

[@touger9759]

Thats why I drive across the river to buy ammo now. Can't move unfortunately but IA is a hop skip and jump away. I spend my money there whenever possible.

[@wilburlahmann7972]

@@touger9759If I ago into the free nations I still get asked what state I’m from. Soon as they hear Illinois. It’s produce the FOID card and another background check….

[@touger9759]

@@wilburlahmann7972 I've never been asked

[@charleswade2716]

Bring back "Tar & Feathers". The founders of this Country would have already taken care of a situation like this.

[@aquariumdude7829]

Lol! Okay, William Wallace! Lead the way whenever you are ready! 😂

[@donaldkramer7831]

Which bird species shall we place on the endangered list? Going to need a lot of feathers for Gov. Jelly Belly.

[@EBFNOQMAGNO]

Our battle will not be won by the pen William. God Bless.

[@Cole-xq2tl]

I wish more peoplw would understand that sentiment. These people hate us. They aren't going to let us win through the "proper channels"

[@r.d.hargrave8159]

The main thrust of my pending lawsuit against State of NJ - which voided my firearms purchaser id over 20 years ago without giving any reason - is primarily challenging NJSA 2C:58-3(c)(5) which has been used repeatedly by state actors to permanently revoke arms licenses based on mere accusations, and that standard still stands & applies in force in NJ

[@r.d.hargrave8159]

Also, and i haven’t yet watch to the end, how is this not “capable of repetition but evading review” situation?

[@josephpadula2283]

Is Even Nappen your lawyer ? If not look him up

[@r.d.hargrave8159]

@@josephpadula2283 I know of the Nappen firm very well, but I have not spoken to anyone there yet; I have read many state courts' opinions in which Nappen represented an individual who was infringed under the purposefully-vague and discretionary § 2C:58-3(c)(5) disability standard. (& I am originally from Salem County, so way in the south while the Nappen firm is in what my part of the state would call "north") I am myself licensed to practice in many jurisdictions, albeit with a tax law background as well as not in NJ. I am working to finish my own pro se drafting now (Complaint & exhibits, motions to Proceed Under Pseudonym and for Protective Order, motions for Judgmnet on the Pleadings or for Summary Judgment) and, once I have done most of the drafting, I will be looking for an attorney to do the filing while I try to remain only a "Doe" or "Roe" plaintiff since bringing the lawsuit against State of NJ can have serious professional retaliation repercussions for me outside of NJ.

[@joesheetstheragman7737]

This what a one-party state looks like..

[@aquariumdude7829]

Lol! Yes! Just like California! 😂

[@Lightning613]

@@aquariumdude7829KommieFornia

[@tnhomestead]

Technically Illinois is a two-party state, Chicago is the ruling state, and then you have the rest of the state.

[@Lightning613]

@@tnhomestead except Shelby County - always been entrenched DEMs. Just try to drive anywhere through the County without destroying your vehicle - it shows “Pure Democrats.”

[@Marinealver]

@@tnhomestead the state of Chicago, the state of Seattle, I guess we don't have to rename New York.

[@paulh2039]

Illinois is the worst. I had my FOID, CCL and firearms confiscated by chicago police department. There was no arrest and no charges, I went to court and the judge ruled all licenses and legally owned firearms to be returned to me. I work with firearms and part of active shooter prevention. It took weeks to get my FOID and CCL back, all my firearms were returned to me weeks after that. Chicago police department still have my AR10 which i legally purchased and legally owned, i even have a firearms control card so I am able to use the rifle for work but Chicago police department are playing games. Wish me luck as I go back to court in 2 weeks.

[@SgtG1997]

Wish you best of luck!!!!

[@davidfischer5945]

The FOID card was a pet project of the Chicago and Cook Co. Democrats in the 1960s, especially the first Mayor Daley. The city was embarrassed by apparent cases of citizens’ self protection that occurred during serious civil unrest 1966-1966. They wanted the ability for the Chicago police and Cook Co. Sheriff to confiscate guns if such civil unrest occurred again.

[@fredcarbery3966]

That MAYOR was one Hella a RACEST

[@davidgrossman7965]

Your videos are great, and you keeping getting better. Keep up the good work, in particular the videos like this with concise and yet comprehensive, easy to understand, breakdowns of interesting topics.

[@the_armed_gardener]

This is the best explanation of the current state of affairs that we are facing within our current environment, Kirk. This is your best video, IMHO.

[@brucewhite9657]

Commenting from east N.C. Prayers and love to western N.C. And Eastern T.N.

[@CraigEggers-wf6ic]

I had a FOID card once and the whole idea made me want to puke even though I grew up in the democrat run hell hole of Chicago.Moved to Wisconsin in 1998 and have felt like a real American ever since.Still waiting on the constitutional carry though.

[@optimisticpessimist484]

What are you going to do to fix that smelly blue Madison?

[@byronperry6014]

You also became a free man.

[@jimgordon3206]

When a government entity implements a clearly unconstitutional law why must the citizens spend any money to have it overturned. The supreme court should step in and overturn it. It should never have gone into effect. Additionally those government employees who are responsible for implementing such laws should be fired and imprisoned for their actions. What they did is illegal.

[@kellym3531]

So glad I left. I do not cross that river for anything.

[@robertcuny934]

Will the content of this vodeo be discussed in Illinois during the store visits?

[@rhodesoflife]

So if you kidnap someon but then later let them go you cant be charged with kidnapping? I mean same idea right? THE RIGHT WAS REVOKED just becuse they gave it back doesn't mean the crime wasnt committed to begin with...

[@TheJBerg]

Good take.

[@oblivionsa7973]

Exactly this. But we all know it's (D)ifferent when THEY do it.

[@The18tvw]

Judge's need to be held accountable for unconstitutional rulings.

[@SCAR16L]

You're playing someone else's game, by their rules, which they can change on a whim at any time, and wondering why you can't win? Truly a mystery.

[@Marinealver]

exactly why lawyers can't help us now plan on a Post 2nd Amendment society

[@chethaynes5802]

Great Report. Thank You. WGL

[@dmark6699]

Why do the people of Illinois keep voting these people in? insanity.

[@aquariumdude7829]

They are the "bread and circuses" voter crowd! 😂

[@robertlawson698]

Why do the people of Illinois(and a lot of other places)keep obeying the"laws"and"rules"these"people" keep imposing on them?

[@aquariumdude7829]

@robertlawson698 They vote for it and cheer it on for whatever reason! 😆

[@dmark6699]

@@aquariumdude7829 crazy

[@aquariumdude7829]

@@dmark6699 Yep.

[@user-ij9sh1tf9d]

Leaving Illinois was the best decision of my life and this stuff increases that feeling every single day. That state is an absolute lost cause.

[@lindaamelung145]

😎 Thanks William!

[@marginbuu212]

It's a game of culture and education. As long as they control the schools, institutes of higher education, media, and culture, things will never change.

[@drirene57]

An as long as they have polling places in every cemetery…..

[@justme-dm7sb]

Part of the problem with the Prussian school system, among other problems. As long as our schools look and function like prisons this will never change.

[@peterloo3136]

As an Illinois resident, everyone South of Chicago wants to split the State into two. We will survive

[@Jerry-hh5eb]

Everything in Cook County. What about us folks downstate?

[@Barskor1]

Crook County

[@Lightning613]

Cook County controls the entire State of Illinois.

[@MikeF421]

No one is aware that there is anything outside of crook. In the military when asked where I was from the response to Illannoy was always, "oh, chicago". I should've just started saying northern Kentucky, eastern Missouri or western Indiana

[@retselyarrh3895]

When they have cases like these they must now split it into two groups, a monetary one and an injunctive one!!!

[@goofynoodle4775]

I'm leaving Illinois and moving to Alabama. I'm not gonna know what to do with myself. Permitless carry im AL. ! Whooo!

[@fredcarbery3966]

Please look for a very high hill to live on

[@ericschneider5931]

Alabama has very poor gene pool. Too much cousin loving.

[@cheapolegunguy]

Why we can never win in Illinois??? STOP.....Like you didn't know. You're killing me Smalls!!

[@RagingEggs]

So what happened to the case in Chicago where a federal judge said an illegal can have a firearm without a foid card? That just disappear like a fart in the wind?

[@MrLeoAtrox]

Hey. GAT Guns is my closes big gun shop! Great building (they've got a range and conference/training room). While you're there, you can see the entire wall of stock that they cannot sell because of the current PICA law. I'm tempted to head out there just to meet you and thank you for what you're doing. I grew up in Bellevue, so I feel a (somewhat unreasonable) kinship.

[@JAT922]

FJB and the Illinois JB

[@timsmith1589]

Just wow, unbelievable.

[@aquariumdude7829]

Welcome to another exciting episode of "False Hope Theatre!" 😂

[@Marinealver]

Hope is the first step down the road to disappointment.

[@aquariumdude7829]

@@Marinealver Time to sing the blue-state blues! 😆

[@thomasrushing9359]

Same thing goes on in Florida. Man accused of beating his lying wife. CCW license revoked. Charges dropped.

[@henrypierce8010]

We need to fight the corruption.

[@tysonc6422]

Thank you

[@mitchellwright7311]

That's one reason I left Illinois

[@aquariumdude7829]

And I bet there were many! 😊

[@GH-tp6vu]

Remember to separate chicago from the rest of illinois where every sheriff of every county refused to enforce the unconstitutional gun registration.

[@chucklutter7399]

COMMIES ARE COMMIES

[@rickmcintosh1771]

As are Demoncrats.

[@aulusflavius9635]

If only, the Founders set an example of how to deal with corrupted courts and politicians... If only.

[@SplashOfOrange]

Never say never, but the linguistic gymnastics of determined activists judges can make it really tough.

[@charlescarson-ji7fj]

Thanks!

[@Partimepeasant]

Corruptopia !

[@laxplayer99]

my brother got charged with DUI in Springfield and the state piggies revoked his FOID. He wasn't convicted but he had to jump through a bunch of hoops to get it back.

[@lockehaney3013]

who is paying these justices. sounds fishy to me

[@electromech7335]

JB Prizker.. he gave them a million a piece to help them get elected!

[@rickmcintosh1771]

Pritsker.

[@richardsuggs8108]

I used to drive though Illinois on my way to Colorado. I would only stop in state to purchase fuel or use a roadside rest stop.

[@tickledpinkmist]

The Secretary of State (Willard Ice Building) has the Ukrainian flag flying in front… Need we say anything more?

[@Marinealver]

So give your guns to Ukraine, I mean they are "military grade", right?

[@tickledpinkmist]

@@Marinealver Come and take them

[@jerryhill3272]

Didn't the Governor bribe those judges? What's the difference between a bribe and an illegal campaign donation?

[@fredcarbery3966]

A seen an old time movie were mean ass judge sasshaed out of the office and found his new buick lookin like a swisschese

[@truesf345]

I’m in my fifties minus my time deployed I’ve lived and worked in Chicago the corruption is so deep it’s impossible to think anything in this state is legitimate especially judges and any law enforcement.

[@ryanloyd5616]

@truesf345, 1st and foremost, thank you for your service to this great nation. People like you continue to allow for conversations like this and I am 100% grateful. 2nd, please consider this only as an alternate view and not a personal attack. I am in my 50’s as well and just retired from 28 years in Illinois law enforcement, the last 25+ as a Sheriff’s Deputy and all 28 as a patrolman. I ask you in sincerity…Do you know, off hand, how many of the 102 Sheriff’s in Illinois did not enforce the PICA requirements until it was upheld by the Illinois Supreme Court? 94. 94 of them because they saw it as unconstitutional. Only once it was upheld and became law did they have no choice but to enforce it. Regardless of how they felt constitutionally. I see that as more of a Sheriff being legitimate, patriotic and loyal to their oath to the constitution and to their constituents than I do as being as you suggest. As for Illinois legislators and judges are concerned… subjective based on individual beliefs I suppose. I would appreciate that you not paint LE with such a broad stroke brush. Are there some in every profession, yes. But I bet you could list off some in your profession as easily as I could in mine. Thank you, respectfully, for your reconsideration of this stance.

[@gatorjimmy6119]

If you play by their unconstitutional rules you'll lose every time.

[@robertklein7350]

I had to patronize Bevis @ Law Weapons Naperville today !!! Needed a practical EDC, and found it !!! Great price !!! I plan on attending your appearance, meet and greet !!! Hope to see you there, also !!!

[@HManning]

I am pretty sure it's a lot of people in the state of Illinois that got misdemeanors and got their foid card revoked that don't even know they're supposed to still have their Foid card still valid an able to purchase Ammunition and Firearms The game's of the government

[@F80mthree]

Absolutely and there’s plenty of people who for whatever reason, misdemeanors or seeking help for depression etc are on a list somewhere and will be auto denied once they apply. No due process in regards to losing their right to own a firearm. It’s all done behind the scenes in an administrative action. I know someone who had some issues 10 years prior with mental health. She took her time and worked on herself over the years, went to apply for a foid about a year ago and was auto denied because she sought help when she was 17. Now she lives in the hood with her first child and has no means to defend herself. Never been charged with any crime and never had a day in court. Never even received noticed that she was on a list for auto denial either, yet they claim they contacted her. Which I highly doubt.

[@crystalclearwindowcleaning3458]

The Supreme Court Justices wimped out on their responsibility to decide whether a law is constitutional or not. This law should have been adjudicated and rescinded.

[@johnnywilson7799]

Supreme Court won’t do their dam job!

[@aquariumdude7829]

Nothing that they can do. The Democrat monarchs of the blue states don't listen to them anyway.

[@FatasFrying]

Eventually!

[@mccjoe01]

​@@FatasFryingin a pigs eye

[@FatasFrying]

@@mccjoe01 A Landmark Maximalist Case They Can Work Off Eventually.

[@alexc2093]

They did the same thing when they were sued during the pandemic for taking far longer than the 30 day statutory limit to issue a FOID card. All the plaintiffs who had been waiting months, magically started receiving their FOIDs before the case got close to judgment.

[@derektorres6260]

And this is why it sucks to be stuck in this state. Cook County, the IL side of the St Louis metro area, and Springfield are blue, the rest of the state believes in freedom.

[@RudeKeyser]

No one from Illinois has ever respected the Consitution.

[@DraganB52]

You made an excellent point that’s why we need the United States Supreme Court to get involved in immediately because they’re not going to give up there. Hocus Pocus the second amendment while we are being denied and that’s not right.🎉

[@aquariumdude7829]

They can't help even if they wanted too. The Dem monarchs of Illinois will just ignore them as usual.

[@adamtrombino106]

You win by getting the hell out of Illinois!

[@annelarrybrunelle3570]

OK. The IL Supreme Court is right in respect of what I call a "lawyerism": that, as THEY state it, a similar future event happening to THESE plaintiffs is an exercise in speculation. HOWEVER, the case goes to the core of, not just harms or prospective harms to these plaintiffs (and the cost of litigating all this crap and inconveniences and changes in plans due to the FOID card revocations were neither trivial nor moot, now or in any future event), but to the legislation itself and the enforcement action both being unconstitutional. The lower court's permanent injunction was proper and necessary, and if it somehow did not apply to all citizens, it should. In sum, the IL Supreme Court failed at least twice here, first in not upholding an injunction for which there was, in context, an obvious necessity, and second, and more broadly, in not recognizing that the context revealed that the whole bloody FOID card scheme is a massive infringement. How these folk achieve public office is beyond me. Surely some voters are deceived, but so many for so long? We The People are explicitly the earthly Sovereign, under God, as those who established the Constitution. We do have the power to throw the rascals out. We perhaps need to establish a mechanism whereby, when clearly constitutional questions are brought before a court, the full expenses of deciding such questions (including lawyers for both/all sides) shall be borne by the public. It is, after all, to the public benefit that constitutional questions be decided as promptly, clearly, and broadly as possible. "As applied" claims can be just as important as others, and courts should favor decisions correcting or nullifying bad law; a possible outcome in some decisions could perhaps include a report of the case to the legislative body responsible, signifying the apparent defect - a bug report, if you will. I have read some laws so arcane, convoluted, and just plain wrong that, had the drafts been submitted as law school assignments, someone would justly have flunked. And I'm just a common citizen.

[@drirene57]

Dead people have been voting for over century.

[@maxwellstreetpolish]

Dead people vote in Illinois

[@rondacey7595]

Why are they getting away with this. Why can't they be arrested ?

[@kevinkohlman9884]

One of the reasons I moved to Indiana from Illinois. Illinois SUCKS

[@jamesmorgan3115]

The foid card is gun, registration, plain and simple.

[@BorkTI]

Since this is an infringement of a Constitutional Right the prospective infringement confirs standing. There was a First Amendment case that established that. The Supreme Court should take this up.

[@zgennaro]

Women shouldn’t be judges

[@justme-dm7sb]

Funny

[@max-zo6ks]

Maybe soup kitchen 😂😂

[@sallytidwell7804]

No conversation no restrictions!

[@aquariumdude7829]

In the end, people get the government they deserve.

[@caseyketchum7968]

Murdock v. Pennsylvania, 319 U.S 105 you don’t need a license to own a gun!! Shuttlesworth v. City of Birmingham Alabama 373 U.S 262 you are allowed to ignore the FOID card people!!!

[@betsyburns1825]

Never say never.

[@aquariumdude7829]

Never.

[@NorthwoodsShooter]

I’d highly recommend visiting J.R. Shooting Sports in Aurora, Illinois the next time you’re in the state. J.R.’s is a much larger store than Law Weapons, and would attract a larger crowd to come out. If you weren’t aware, Law Weapons has no range, and has been on “life support” for years, and doesn’t really have much of a following these days here in Illinois. They’re quickly going the way of RKA, BAT Arms, KEE, and many other Illinois gun stores and ranges that have closed their doors or are shell of what they once were.

[@aquariumdude7829]

Well, at least Alec Baldwin's twin brother here is finally being honest for a change! 😂