Waste 💩 Management / Toilet 🚽 Options for the Off Grid Cabin - EP#19

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Off grid septic & off grid toilet options are wildly debatable as to what is the best option. What it boils down to is what best suits your needs and budget. We considered an outhouse, a composting toilet and then the traditional flushing toilet with septic system. For us and our large family and the fact that we plan to have it on Airbnb, we wanted a zero maintenance system so we went the modern route and put in a septic system.
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[@BenNstyle]

When it comes to number 2, I think you made the number 1 best choice for your future guest needs. You could still build an outhouse (for aesthetic looks only) just to scare the number 2 out of your guest when they arrive! 😂

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

😆 best comment of the day!!

[@pearlsofwisdom7894]

I was gonna say the same thing 🤣 that would be hilarious

[@JillRH]

Yes build an outhouse also. Gotta have an outhouse.

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

@@LoftisPartyofSix Wow - I'm surprised you're not required to have an inspection. Here if you want a "permanent structure" building permit then there first has to be a waste treatment inspection permit required. And so yeah even if someone wants a composting toilet then they still need septic for the gray water system. We have over ten thousands lakes though.

[@KILO-uv2wi]

I completely agree with your choice of a conventional toilet for the purpose that you need. I live in my RV full time and have a composting toilet. While it’s great for two people I think any more than that the maintenance would be too much, as with emptying also comes cleaning. It’s quite the chore. Loving the cabin thus far!

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

Thank you 😊

[@reedconniebarfield]

I like the “regular” toilet with the septic. I think it will offer y’all peace of mind as well when you’re away.

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

Thanks 😊

[@riwoof]

I think I would consider adding an outhouse as well. Besides the "charm" factor, it also would alleviate any long lines for the john.

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

Thank you

[@MustardSeedAdventures]

Its been awesome watching this process you guys. Me and Sarah have really enjoyed it! The cabin looks amazing so far. Cant wait to see more!

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

Thanks guys!! 😊

[@wessebaggers]

For me i think you did the right thing when I remodeled my two bathrooms i choose just like you !

[@rmom33]

I totally agree about you having an outhouse! Great idea for looks after all Little House on The Prairie had one.

[@henry64100]

Jerry did a wonderful job building this cabin. He’s a genius! Keep him safe.

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

Will do 👍

[@victoriakeith2145]

I think you made a amazing choice.. everything is looking so good 😊. I can’t wait to see it when it’s complete! God bless you guys 🤗

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

Thank you 😊

[@rustibarnett4765]

You made the perfect choice!!! We are on septic and have never had a problem.

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

Awesome 😎 thanks

[@laurawgarts]

Good call - very good choice for your family and guests! The place is looking great, ya'll!

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

Thanks 😊

[@Bart-dg6qv]

Thanks for this. I was looking for video with different options consideration.

[@alexandracuesta8952]

Perfect choice!! Excellent....congrats....I also have a septic tank system...and with your video, I learned more...thanks!!!😊

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

Thank you 😊

[@seraphx26]

You made the right choice in my opinion, if you are putting the place up for rent very few guests are going to want their week in the country interrupted by having to dump composting toilets.

[@cynthiasnedeker2981]

I agree. Best choice made

[@braveheartrv2946]

Saw the band-aid and though. Awe. Someone got a boo boo. Jere seems like such a sweetheart.

[@ruthaspen2076]

I had friends in NH that had a compost toilet that emptied into a special basement area which could be shoveled out periodically.

[@mikekenney8362]

Well done. Lots of ideas

[@darlenefelts1131]

An old fashioned outhouse would still be a great idea to have because if it's built right there is no smell or bacteria to worry about. Plus you would be surprised at how many people would appreciate it just for an added bonus.

[@jenniferknight1511]

We have a well, a septic system, and regular old power!

[@jadecraig9830]

Fully right choice !

[@robertmoder1593]

Good choice 4 years off grid with a sun mar toilet a pain in a butt I would use sawdust and a bucket before I would go back to that nice that Missouri has lighter restrictions than Wisconsin but place is sold and hopefully September full time RVing God bless hope to see you on the road

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

An expensive pain too!! I looked at those and they are just as expensive as what it cost for our septic system.

[@allenduncan8046]

Must tell you I think you made a wonderful choice

[@samanthahanson18]

you made a great choice! that's a Beautiful cabin!!!

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

Thank you 😊

[@sheilabundren2037]

My mom has a septic. I think you made a wise decision.

[@trombo4697]

I think you made the right choice

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

Thanks 😊

[@rmom33]

I think you guys made a great choice! I dont think you will have to worry about it at all. I am so happy for you guys. My husband Danny and I are interested in renting your cabin one day. We have a grandson in Fredericktown, MO and we want to visit with him at your cabin when it is available. Can you give us an idea of what you are thinking about as far as price? We are also retiring next July and cant wait to hit the road RVing full time. Maybe we will meet you guys on the road. I'm sure you are ready to continue your adventures. God Bless you guys! You are the sweetest family.

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

Thank you guys!! The price will be about $125-150 per night. Would love to have y’all visit!!

[@milonetzler67]

You made the right decision.

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

Thanks 😊

[@jamiehoward3151]

I "bleed like a stuck hog" too😀 I have hemophilia, so I get it! Love how the cabin looks😎 I think you made the right choice with the toilet😁

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

Thanks 😊

[@conroysmith4187]

Good choice

[@rush4war380]

living out in the bush and potentially covered in mud and dirt or other in hunting season, its nice to have an entrance from outside or at least be close to an outside door. just think about all them days ahead with kids playing in the animal pens and falling into the slop. lol..

[@andyteohockguan7243]

Awesome video and stay safe, God bless

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

Thanks 😊

[@braveheartrv2946]

I saw this video that I'm looking for where you turn your poop into heat.

[@freedompanda9438]

I’m curious how many of the people saying “good choice” have owned a good composting toilet. I keep reading clues that tell me most haven’t lol.

[@ccrews0612]

the difference between a 100 and 200 dollar toilet is the amount of clogs. The more expensive toilet will have a polished or glazed trap. The other difference is they also come in seat heights coming in at 18.8"

[@Bobm-kz5gp]

You can get a good bidet that fits under your toilet seat, no electric required, better job at cleaning your bottom and only a few sheets of tp to dry a bit. Much less tp used so your septic lasts longer. Check them out at Amazon. Less than $100.

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

Thanks 😊

[@Miguel195211]

Great choice on a septic. The others are too nasty. I would of gone with 1000 instead of 500.

[@f1s2hg3]

Thanks 🙏 Great 👍

[@lindabevier-vian7101]

I think you made the right choice 😃 I would have chose the same,..An ADA aproved toilet has an 18 inches seat hight....

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

Thanks 😊

[@chris5459]

How often do you have to empty the septic? and what is that process like? there are companies that pump it out or you do it yourself somehow? Thank you

[@RVBadlands2015]

Septic with a regular toilet we put in a 1000 gallon tank and there are only two of us. Where building a two bedroom small house.

[@timandnatd]

Incinerator toilet. If water is limited and you have plenty of power. It all depends on your specific scenario!

[@osombrand8774]

How often you are having a pump out septic service coming to take the waste out of the tank?

[@susancampbell515]

I think it was a smart choice!

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

Thanks 😊

[@hartleyemerald674]

Great ideas! I would add a larger septic tank with a really good macerating toilet that way you are sure that the waist is truly getting liquefied before it goes back into the earth, you guys are great, keep up the good work and thank you for all these wonderful videos they are helping me with my projects

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

Thanks 😊

[@vanderumd11]

It's the water that goes into the ground. Solids sit and break down in the tank.

[@Marc-uw4lw]

I think the difference between the toilets regarding price is simply quality. If the lid breaks or comes loose or the flush get stuck, that's false economy. I'd want hard-wearing durable goods in a S-T rental property. Just food for thought. Good video

[@henry64100]

Good choice on septic and toilet

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

Thanks 😊

[@michelledouglas6538]

Good choice!!!!!

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

Thanks 😊

[@angelncarroll1241]

I have to have a regular toilet, I’ve had a outhouse and hated it and composting ones gross me out too much

[@CCRider5312]

I don’t know the difference between a $100 Toilet and a $300 Toilet.....Without missing a beat Jerry says $200 ! Lol 😂 Love your sense of humor Jerry. 🤣 Man you gonna have a beautiful cabin when your done with it. I just subbed to this channel and I already love the projects! 😁👍

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

Thanks 😊

[@markcrothers3707]

So there is absolutely no chance your septic system will contaminate your spring? Do you plan on using a regular septic service company to come pump out your tank and how often do you think you will have to do that?

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

We will have it tested but we believe the soil is perfect for proper drainage that won’t affect the spring

[@mushroomking8304]

What are the logistics of emptying the sceptic tank on an off-grid cabin? Do you do that yourself or have to have someone come it?

[@desertdetector4476]

We are trying to make this decision right now…was looking at composting toilets which are $1,000 plus. Was going this route more expensive?

[@Joseph_Gibson]

So does the septic tank have to be emptied out periodically, or is there some type of grinder/aeration system?

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

If it’s over used and the solids don’t have time to break down then yes it would need to be pumped out periodically. But if it works properly then as solids turn into liquids it will work it’s way into the lateral lines into the ground.

[@xoawolf]

This might be a dum question to ask, but I don't know enough in this field. So my question is, could you have a traditional style toilet (aka the one installed here), and have it connect/work with a rainwater collection system?

[@haleytownsley80]

My husband and I are also about to go off grid and are wondering the same thing. Does anyone have any info on this specifically? We are needing as much info as possible, so if anyone can guide us in the right direction we’d be enormously thankful! ❤️

[@lauriec3354]

So, what was the cost after all? I conquer, sounds like a great choice.

[@teekay1785]

The only GOOD choice you made. Can you imagine guests going to the outhouse in subfreezing temps at night !!! Good way to fall an het injured too! The smell etc!! Put in an OUTHOUSE too and see if anyone actually uses it more than once.

[@jackman6256]

Bulid outhouse over a tank that u have bulided put lines going out it an let nature handel it AFTER you put one in house

[@patmason7276]

Tank doesn't matter your drain field is where your problem will be especially around Lake and oceans with high water table.

[@REB65]

👍 God bless y’all ✌️

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

Thanks 😊

[@saadshahzad7668]

What is your water source for this cabin?

[@bellisimo1]

You did good. Septic is the way to go for worry free waste disposal. Like, you, I can't see paying a fortune for a toilet. That money can be utilized better somewhere else.

[@terrydonaldson1841]

Can’t wait to rent it

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

Awesome thanks

[@Most_Amazin]

Are you planning to build more homes on the property? Maybe a clubhouse, or rec center. Fun, and clubbing don't have to be in home. Guest don't have to be quiet while there enjoying there time.. Almost like a small village. I would build that, this is my goal for my own 80 acres. (Wished In to existence) you did everything right.

[@hayleytuluauau3526]

This is the best choice - it’s hygienic for the kids and the family - easy to clean and the kids are safe using the toilet within the cabin when weather is not good - won’t leave odours. Love the option you chose the cabin is looking amazing can’t wait to see how your lovely wife will decorate and a cabin tour well done loftis family 🙏🏽

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

Thank you

[@sherbournesubwaymess]

Option#4 - Place a large metal tub underneath an outhouse, when it's full: Fill it with gas, set it on fire and with a pole...slowly stir. It'll keep the kids busy.

[@fabiansandoval6132]

What???? Can you please explain more??? I have a cabin with an incinorater toilet and it sucks. I have an outhouse but its completely full, have never used it so your idea sounds interesting. Please elaborate if you have time.

[@mattvollmar7713]

Please put me on the list for air bnb your cabin. Great job so far!

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

Awesome!! Would love to host y’all

[@greasydave4754]

nice intro

[@GeorgiaWoodsHomesteading]

If you don't mind me asking, what county and state do you live in? We are in Crawford County, Georgia....I am wanting to do an off grid cabin for my mom on our 70 acres.

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

Missouri

[@401threed7]

What county/ state is this?

[@drako1888]

how do you empty the tank? how often? what the hell man

[@kevineastburn4131]

What county and state?

[@LJFullHouse]

Sawdust toilet, for sure.

[@patriciacharrier3620]

You could put up a building that looks like an out house for show but it would realy be a shed or stowage.

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

Good idea thanks

[@randymcphink3924]

Top flush vs handle. Handle is full flush every time. Top flush is half or full flush.

[@TandZAptLife]

Hi guys! No more RVing? That's a beautiful Loft home you have.

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

Yes we still live in the RV and will travel as soon as the cabin is finished which will be soon. Thanks 😊

[@TandZAptLife]

@@LoftisPartyofSix Awesome.

[@calebparker8236]

Every grown man needs a roll of toilet paper in their truck lol

[@jenniferknight1511]

Head wounds always bleed a lot!

[@rush4war380]

sry... #1 is water, #2 is heat, #3 is refrigeration, #4 is power, #5 is waist... ongoing is Food and Community... im off grid for 4 years. on my own. little girls need more care lol butt... even if i could manage an outhouse, it would have a full functioning toilet. only prob 4 mee is i live in canada and it gets cold. so heating would be for certain. and if that is needed then just build it into the house ;) although.. i may consider 1 for summer, then flush it for winter. is that top flush a prob for ur children?

[@gwengibbs3694]

I have seven acres problem is bedrock I can't afford 10k any suggestions?

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

I would ask a local septic guy or speak with your county health dept.

[@ThomasLeonard454]

Indoor bathroom and flush toilet, with shower.

[@DJ_Bohn]

What camera do you use? Do you talk about your camera gear somewhere? Thank you!

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

Canon M50

[@DJ_Bohn]

@@LoftisPartyofSix thanks!! And what lens? and microphone?

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

Normal lens that it came with and Rode mic

[@devonjansenvanniewenhuizen5856]

I don't understand why more people dont make use of the waste. So heres my idea, install a system that will capture and sperate the waste IE septic and soak away system, but instead of just wasting all that viable natural gas why not capture it into either an inflatable bladder or weighted /spring tensioned capture tank of sorts. That way in time you will have an unending supply og natural methane gas, obviously the system will require some design and tuning but i think i have after about 4 years of enquiry got a solid concept.

[@michaelward2869]

Yeah bro thats sounds good cause exatlaly as you say good choice ❤hope its all going well guys Do you still speak to Joe he's cool to few of you guys you know what your talking bout ❤❤

[@User-yv3un]

Hi guys! I’m early!

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

Hi 👋!! Thanks

[@User-yv3un]

Oh my gosh! You replied! 😱 I love you guys. Have fun building your cabin 💗

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

We always reply!! ❤️

[@User-yv3un]

Thank you guys so much this made my day!❤️

[@erikdowney461]

Where did the southern accent come from all of a sudden. “The south will rise again!!”

[@cabinlifeatedensprings1710]

We use solar. Love your cabin! We have springs on our property. We are pretty close to the river. It’s about half a mile from our driveway to the boat dock. Everyone said why not buy right on the water. But we were looking for a deal. We needed cheap and someone to work with us. Because we were still living in the city in the big suburban home. Right now we compost. We have been really happy with that. Not sure if we will ever have a septic tank on our property. Currently we live in a small country town in a small country house. And here we have a septic. We do plan on keeping both homes. We would prefer to be full time out by the river and we see ourselves spending much more time there. But the country house is in a little town about an hour outside a large city with hospitals and doctors. Our parents and extended family are closer to the city. We really don’t see it as being much of an expense. It’s better than having to stay at a hotel or move in with family if something happened and we need to be near the hospitals. After 2019 we decision was confirmed. Because we lost 5 family members. It was the worst year we thought. And I’m disabled. For comfort and peace of mind the country house makes sense. But we love our cabin. I think you made the right decision for you. Because you have a big family. It’s just the two of us now. And family will survive, lol. If you could have seen the look on our daughter s face when we told her to use the composting toilet. Priceless😳. Leslye

[@donwat91]

I know its been awhile since you posted this but I agree with your decision. It's one thing if it's just for you and your family. But you're not asking your children for a vote who would have to help in emptying a bucket . But you're asking your guest to empty a bucket. I feel it would turn guest away. You did the right thing. It will pay for itself in the amount if guest you have staying there. I've not had a chance to see your videos in some time due to my health , no COVID-19 here. I have neck , back and leg issues that requires me to have an implanted pain pump. Its to long to talk about and bore you. I have some catching up to do. Your cabin looks great.

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

Thank you and hope you get to feeling better soon!!

[@roydavis2242]

Where we live in Ohio we had some of the most ridiculous County EPA guidelines in the state. It got so bad that the realtor association filed a lawsuit. The State EPA stepped in and got rid of the idiots and settled out of court. In Ohio no matter what the size of your property is the requirements are basically the same. The exceptions are for the Amish and for commercial use. A bathtub needs to be part of that system.

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

Yeah I’ve had lots of people asking because seems like a lot of areas around the country are super strict. Glad our area is not.

[@featheredcoyote5477]

Yep, Amish here in Indiana have preferential treatment as well and it pisses me off. Using the restroom has nothing to do with God nor religion. I was told by my local building dept that I would need to pull permits and have a septic system on my hunting cabin because it exceeds 200 sq ft. But my Amish neighbors have a 4000sq ft home and don't have to have a septic system because of religion. Such bullshit. A basic system is over 20k here in Indiana and must be approved by health dept. Needless to say, I use 5 gallon bucket bathroom since it's just me

[@GenesisTreaty]

@@featheredcoyote5477 lol don't blame you Coyote, do you use your waste to water and fertilize your garden beds and plants...or just dig a hole and dump? Any issues with smell or critters, etc?

[@featheredcoyote5477]

@@GenesisTreaty absolutely zero smell and zero issues with critters. Use sawdust to cover after every use until bucket gets full. Put a lid on it and set out in the sun for at least 6 months. After 6 month's, use a composting bin layered with grass clippings and straw. Doug and Stacey have great video's on KZbin explaining this method. You should check them out. They've been using this format for years in Missouri while living off grid.

[@GenesisTreaty]

@@featheredcoyote5477 Awesome and thanks for the info. I'll definitely follow up with Doug and Stacey. Thanks for sharing. Stay Safe! 🤜🤛🇺🇸

[@thomaslevey5824]

You don’t explain anything about the septic lines, depth of trenching, size of line, distance from house, is there a tank, angle /level of line, how much line, etc, etc

[@eAllAN-ke4jz]

Me i was thinking like feeding carnivor plants

[@lilyridenour6169]

What happened to the class a rv

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

We still have it and living in it. Just building a cabin for now then back to traveling.

[@lilyridenour6169]

Ok got it thank you

[@bradh6185]

The video starts at 5:58.

[@PrestonMiddle]

What state is this?

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

Missouri

[@ThomasLeonard454]

Dual flush don't flush that well but I bet you now know this. More money means it will flush bigger jobs easier.

[@kevinmaldonado3628]

How much for your class A RV I am interested in buying it please contact me

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

Not for sale

[@khandam7709]

split level composting toilet would of worked fine. they only need emptied few times a year. you deffinetely want to have a grey water diversion system so your shower and washing water does not go into a tiny 500 gallon septic tank. If that clogs while guests are there, it will only last a day or two before it backs up and makes a mess. with a grey water diversion system a 500 gallon tank can last 2x longer and works better because the bacteria work better when more concentrated. but in the end people cant' deal wtih thier own shit so a water based toilet will get you more rentals.

[@lenalove8138]

(8:36) The difference between a $100 and a $300 toilet is that you saved $200, that's all

[@brendahorn4782]

I was wondering earlier if you all had any accidents while building. I know I was cringing when you all were on the ladder on the boards. 😊 It’s looking good!

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

So far that was the only incident. Thank you 😊

[@joecallahan3379]

Septic is the only option,LOL

[@LoftisPartyofSix]

Thanks 😊