Waste Oil Burner Top 10 DANGERS

[@johnvitz310]

You really gave this a lot of thought. Well demonstrated, you must be a fireman

[@zs6deb]

This can be a real life and property saver - why are there such few likes? Well done, thank you for the effort.

[@learn2farmagain30]

@zs6deb, Hey thanks for the comment. Yes, that was the hope that if we could help just one person or family avoid disaster it is worth it. I'm actually surprised no one has added another video improving on this one, this was just supposed to get the ball rolling. So, thank you for your kind words. Happy, safe, building.

[@jdell6250]

Actually thought about putting one of these in my basement - not anymore - it will stay in the garage/shop with a watchful eye. Great presentation.

[@AlphaOmegaProject2015]

Just saying thanks for warning us on things that didn't even cross our mind. Nice video. Very appreciated.

[@learn2farmagain30]

Hey AlphaOmegaProject2015, thanks for the comment, hope your furnace is coming along well.

[@coachgeo]

9 backflow- / bottom feed hmm...... so if using bottom feed.... insure one has no open ports in feed line except where it drips into combustion pot...... back flow issue is gone. Got it. Though that does make cleaning obstruction out a PITA and require a different way to view drip rate. advantage- does bottom feed have an advantage...... like if flame out..... and oil still being fed.... the oil then rises to level above the bottom feed line...... would that not stop the flow of oil ??? assume this is what you pointed to in #3

[@learn2farmagain30]

Hey coachgeo, Thanks for the comments, great observations. If I'm understanding your questions correctly, on the oil backflow, if you are using blueflame top flow like in the videos then you would have to fill the furnace with 1 1/2 to 2 gallons of oil before it would come over and out the burner air pipe. Also because of the design used on this channel, the burner over a pipe setup means flame out before spillover so no dangerous oil fire, just an oily mess that should never happen if you have less oil in your feed than your spillover level, and if you just peek over at the temperature gauge every hour or so to notice any problems, you'll see the problem before any danger happens. These setups are simple easy to build and have free heat, they are not fully automated with electronics and leak detectors and shutoff solenoids, so they need to be cared for. There should never be an obstruction in a blue flame setup, there is no hard crust formed like in a yellow flame furnace, just be sure to screen your oil first. It is nice to have a setup that stops the flow of oil @ some point, but easier than that is to have an oil supply that is less than your overflow point. Hope that helps, if not just let us know...

[@Reynieri]

Thanks for making this video many people including me. Needs to be aware of all this. This video is a life saver.

[@learn2farmagain30]

Hello Reynier, Thanks for the comment... So many find these things out the hard way. We are glad this was helpful to you, please share this with others so we can help as many as possible have a good experience with the waste oil heaters. 🙂

[@Reynieri]

@@learn2farmagain30 I think the best way to go. is to invest in a water to Air heat exchanger hot water. And put the waste oil burner far a way from any building. And run the water pipes to the heat exchanger.

[@learn2farmagain30]

Yes, definitely the safest approach.

[@MartinCrisp]

Excellent video especially going to the effort ofgetting footage of each point well done to you

[@learn2farmagain30]

Hey user-vx2in8uc7s thanks for the comment. yes, videos can take time.... not everyone appreciates that until they do it themselves, so thanks and happy building...

[@ponycar351w]

Video saved for future reference! Thanks for all the great information. I’ve been thinking about making a waste oil burner, and thought I had a design figured out. After watching this video I’m probably still going to make one, but at the very least will be changing parts of the design. For one thing, I’m now considering building an outside burner and using coolant/antifreeze to carry the heat indoors. Probably not as efficient, but clearly safer than blowing hot air (and whatever else) into my home or shop.

[@learn2farmagain30]

If you watch the endless free hot water video on this channel it has a water jacket design you might like, but then you have to make some type of loop in the house for a radiator system to release the heat, it can get complicated quick especially since the heat is extreme compared to a typical boiler system with a flame control on and off set up. The heat will just keep building unless you can constantly and consistently remove the heat without fail, you would also have to have a pressure tank, so you do not blow anything up spewing boiling water or more likely steam everywhere which is very dangerous.... please be careful. This is one reason I will not show such a system to the KZbin community, way too dangerous until we come up with a sound automatic ignition system along with an overheat sensor setup. Air exchanger systems are so much simpler for most people and far less likely to malfunction, just always check air quality, especially CO. I hope you have watched the Top 10 dangers video on this channel as well. Never too safe. Also, never use while sleeping, I always shut down after the house is about 85 before bed...feels like summer for free! But besides all that, be sure and share what you come up with so we can all learn further. 🙂

[@ponycar351w]

@@learn2farmagain30 I was commenting on the "10 dangers" video, definitely a must-watch for anyone considering these kinds of heating systems. I'll have to check out the "endless free hot water" video, that sounds like another very informative one. As far as excess heat building pressure and bursting a liquid/radiator based system, you're right that it is a very real danger. I worked for a couple years as a home inspector (years ago), and one of the things I still remember was always checking the pressure relief valves on water heaters and boilers. They are there for a reason on commercially made units, and are a crucial piece of safety equipment! That kind of relief valve would be one of the requirements if I made my own system, but as you said anything manually controlled like that should still not be left running unsupervised. Just a thought, adding a large (probably several hundred gallon, depending on the size of the building being heated) reservoir tank to the water part of the system would give the option of shutting off the burner before bed and still having at least a couple more hours of usable heat available. The burner would have to put out more heat when running to heat up both the reservoir tank and the building, but it might be a worthwhile addition.

[@b_ks]

A very well crafted and informative video. Kudos for the video illustrations of the potential problems which are nicely informed by the simple and concise notes.

[@BowenOrg]

YOUR "LINK" SHOULD BE INCLUDED ON EVERY KZbin VIDEO WHERE IT'S A DIY PROJECT FOR A WASTE OIL STOVE BUILD!!! Amen Retired, Veteran

[@learn2farmagain30]

Hey Brad, Love the comment. If there were only a way to do that...

[@A2J_Tim]

I had flame out issue with explosive gas when I built my first one. How I solved this problem was by pre heating the air before it hits the burn chamber and now it never flames out until I cut the oil supply. I also dont have oil back flow issues with mine and I can push through obstructions with compressed air if I need to, I set mine up with an air line connected to the oil feed line between the shut off valve and the burn chamber, if I notice its flaming out I connect my air line shut off the oil supply and blow it through into the burn chamber, This can cause a flame out with explosive gas, so I typically do this every day before I start the burner up. I dont get run away flames with mine either because I control the air supply with my blower unit, if it gets too much oil the flame starts making less heat similar to when its not getting enough oil. My system also cycles air through the shop, I pre heat out side air coming into the building and oil burner breaths air from in the room completing a cycle. I also have a heat shield around my unit which allows me to get close to it and it create convection circulation. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6WqiX2hfrWeaZYsi=gLoHx1VdnlPrAxBV

[@kabyeros3136]

Thank you for sharing this very helpful tips many of us now an aware and do precaution. Support to your idea brother and more power. Keep it up

[@learn2farmagain30]

Hello KABYERO'S, Thanks for the comment. Yes, safety first. Hopefully your well on your way building an awesome blue flame waste oil heater before the cold hits. 🙂

[@nickwinn7812]

Useful video. There are also hazards in handling the used oil itself. Used engine oil is carcinogenic, spillages do huge environmental damage. If you want to do this sort of thing, then you should always take a cautious approach and consider the risks to youself, those around you and the environment. That said, turning a "waste" product into something useful, is, in my opinion, always a noble enterprise.

[@learn2farmagain30]

Hey Nick, Thanks for the comment. So true, we must be careful on many levels. Maybe we need a top 35 dangers video. 🤔 Skin contact with the oil didn't make the top 10, but still important. Thanks.

[@aarondonaldson4164]

Thank you so much for this information. Indeed valuable. Might have saved someone's life.

[@anwarsherif3116]

Is there any option to avoid bad smell?

[@learn2farmagain30]

Hey anwarsherif3116, thanks for the comment. If there is a clean burn with a blue flame then there should not be a bad smell. The only time you should smell burning oil is when the system is shutting down as the oil stops producing vapour and starts to cool and can produce smoke for a minute or two. The furnace should be in a well-ventilated area, as you can see ours is outside under a covered porch, but some people have theirs in a garage or shed and pump the heat in from there. Never use inside a house, these types of furnaces should be outside, and the heat is then brought in through air flow or just like an outdoor wood boiler, you bring in the heat with water pipes. hope that helps. 🙂

[@learn2farmagain30]

Hey Eshet Chayil, I agree, very cute. Thanks for watching. 🙂

[@غريب-ت8ق]

Respect . 👍👏👍👏👍

[@vwbeetle5578]

Very well put together and illustrated video

[@jimfitzgibbon5492]

One of the best video,s I have seen. I have one question. The one in this video, what size Shop would it heat. My shop is about 1800 Square Foot. It has thin bubble rap insulation. I live in East okla. Winter here low gets in the teens rarely. Mostly mid 40;s to mid 30,s.

[@Garrett053]

I wonder what other emissions are in the smoke than co? Even in the cleanest burning systems?

[@learn2farmagain30]

Hey Garrett053, Thanks for the comment, great question. While using motor oils and transmission oils like we do, there are many detergents, stabilizers, additives, etc. that are burned in the process. There are of course professional, commercial and residential waste oil burners out there, so it is not illegal to burn these things but not many studies on burning the latest synthetics 100% or mixed with conventional are available. Much testing needs to be done, that being said, our current setup burns hotter and cleaner than most commercial units so we are happy with the results. We just used it again last night, very toasty in a hurry. 🙂 Please share any results you have experienced.

[@FC-qe1wl]

I built a drip system and the problem I have is smoke sometimes comes out of the sight fitting. It usually does it when the burn pot is getting low and when i open the door. Any idea what can be causing this ?

[@naproctor]

Great video with good content and a little humor.

[@JasonVladimir]

Some good tips, thanks for sharing!

[@pennyhochhalter3065]

Why would you blow it in to the inside???

[@learn2farmagain30]

Hey Penny, Thanks for the reply... In this demonstration we are simply showing a danger to all those who are designing a "safer" waste oil system to try and get air into a living space, not just a barn or garage etc. but an enclosed living space. While this is a noble or understandable endeavor, the danger is if you have a type of outdoor furnace setup to be "safer" and then blow the heated air in, even with a proper chimney, if anything in your experimental setup fails or leaks, it can blow carbon monoxide, foul gasses, etc. into your living space unnoticed - very dangerous. Of course you should never blow the chimney heat and gasses directly into your living space. This was just a demonstration to get people thinking. It's more difficult to show a perfect outdoor furnace with a tiny crack in a heat exchanger delivering invisible gasses into a home killing people. Hopefully this was enough to keep people thinking and from endangering themselves or their family while they are just trying to stay warm affordably.

[@KCM25NJL]

I'd argue the biggest danger is "Lighting up and walking away thinking you've covered all 10 points mentioned here and believing you are safe....cuz shit happens!"

[@learn2farmagain30]

Hey KCM25NJL, Great comment, yes these can be very dangerous if precautions are not taken, especially if carelessness is involved. When someone actually builds one of these, they become very aware of their specific system. The next step is to then build in oil restriction and an environment that would have the furnace go out if anything goes wrong, not grow out of control. Safety first of course, I don't think anyone would recommend starting up the furnace hooked up to a 55-gallon barrel of oil and then go off shopping. To leave a waste oil furnace like these running unattended you would have to automate the system using a variety of sensors and glow plugs and solenoids to fully control the furnace safely much like a diesel heater with a control board. Most people are not interested in all of that and just want to heat a space while working, or warm up a space and then turn off the furnace before going to bed. Simple system = less to fix. Happy building.

[@KCM25NJL]

@@learn2farmagain30 Yep agree, and of course I didn't mean to gloss over the points you made..... they are all excellent and you covered them well. Most people I imagine are well aware of what they are doing when attempting anything like this, I'm just pointing out that no-one should ever be comfortable with the level of precaution they have taken, that is all :). Appreciate the long response!

[@learn2farmagain30]

Hey KCM25NJL, Totally no offence taken, I'd just rather be long and clear than short and confusing. All comments welcome. Everyone here is still learning so it all helps. Thanks for your input. 🙂

[@anthonycenteno2200]

You are brilliant. I love this video and the way you shared it.

[@Indianmango6968]

This is the video I've been waiting to watch the dis advantages..

[@vadimfrolov4644]

You will never know how many people still alive, have not burned palms because they had seen your video.

[@learn2farmagain30]

Hey vadimfrolov4644, thanks for the comment. Yes, we can all use more information and warnings when it comes to fuel and furnaces. Happy building.

[@matthewh3764]

Great musical score!

[@martinamadsen812]

Very good advice, far too many KZbin project exponents neither warn about associated hazards, nor do they observe occupational health and safety guidelines. So good to see some pertinent safety advice here, it may save many people from injury and financial loss, or even death of themselves or injury or worse of especially children that usually fail to understand safety directions etc. Example, when I was around four years old, my father made a windmill with the lid of a large tin cut to make the blades, it worked well, spinning so the blades was just a blur, my father told me NOT to touch it because I would get hurt, a few moments after he left I stuck my finger into the spinning blades with the obvious result.! 😭 So do not for a moment trust young children not to do something that they have been warned not to do.!!! Even as children grow up they are fairly impevious to safety advice and often only learn the hard way, I would guess most parents of adolecents and teenagers have already noticed that ...🤔

[@learn2farmagain30]

Hey Martina, Thanks for the comment.. Yes, we could all be more careful, even with many warnings and danger examples it is easy to make a quick mistake, even when we know better. Hopefully with all these Dangers in video form it sticks in people's heads better so we all can anticipate trouble before it happens. 🙂

[@ionutsolcan9822]

You areamazing BRO.THANKS

[@ОлегБелов-и9ч]

Many thanks!

[@Willeexd1337]

Thank you for this

[@mightyconker3903]

You make great videos :)

[@oshkosh850.]

whats the heat output like with this unit.

[@learn2farmagain30]

Hello Oshkosh, Thanks for the comment. There are many variables with heat output, more oil and more air equals more btu. We have not measured the heat output, but using the setup shown it feels like our 60,000 to 80,000 btu propane fireplace. Hope that helps.

[@alejandrogarcia-oo8nl]

Thanks you remember me to have respect .🙏🙏🙏

[@learn2farmagain30]

Hello alejandro garcia, I hope you're having great success building your blue flame waste oil heater. I'm not totally sure of your question, but I can pray for you if that is what you are asking. 🙂

[@andresbaltazar5409]

Sa ordinaryong used oil stove na may air blower dapat pang outdoor lng.walang peligro na sumabog di gaya ng gas stove.ung ginawa ko na kalan ay wala namang pressure para panggalingan ng pagsabog.kailangan talaga ang dobleng ingat kahit naman sa gas stove dapat dobleng ingat din.pangmahirap ang used oil stove dahil sa kamahala n ng gas.at isa pa narerecycle ang used oil at nadedesposed ng maayos at kapakipakinabang.

[@mrphoto_fix]

and advisable not to use the engine used oil kasi it will contribute to lots of health issues like cancer etc

[@arielguiwan1897]

Its up to the people... Even LPG happens...the safe way is to make sure to safety first activated...

[@mreza84]

After seeing this video I decided to not make a waste oil burner at all.

[@learn2farmagain30]

Hi E.U., Thanks for the comment. Yes it's nice to know what you're getting yourself into before trouble happens. These furnaces can be quite safe if handled properly, same goes with a knife, if you know how to use it and have become comfortable with all the dangers and how to avoid them, then no problem.

[@viscose808]

Ran one for years no issues just gotta have a brain and build safety controls into use. Most of these issues can be mitigated into obscurity

[@iant419]

Weakness disgusts me

[@ditheraith]

The chimney is supposed to point OUTSIDE!

[@jasoncardoza6375]

Right!!! Notice those burning items flying into the shop from it? They purposely put them in the pipe and it’s not what people mean by blowing the heat into the house. This video is just ridiculous all the way around and trying to deter you from living off grid. It’s no more “ dangerous “ than a wood stove. I have a duo therm unit and heat my shop up for free.

[@Duka107]

It will happen to the people who are brainless

[@nickwinn7812]

Even the cleverest person makes mistakes or has an "off day". If you are the sort of person who thinks "it will never happen to me" Then it probably will!

[@marceloortu6314]

Like my friend, Thanks.

[@learn2farmagain30]

Hey Marcelo, thanks for the comment. Happy building of your waste oil burner. 🙂

[@eshetchayil1974]

What a cute baby!

[@ArticulatelyFox]

awesome, i love oilheat

[@learn2farmagain30]

Hello articulatelyFox, Nice comment. Waste oil heat is quite awesome, especially when used for cooking eggs and jerky.

[@d.i.ynitatay3004]

that design its to big that why can make explosion

[@learn2farmagain30]

Hello D.I.Y ni Tatay, Thanks for the comment. I think you're referring to the 15" shop heater? It can make large explosions, but only under the right (or wrong) conditions, such as cutting off air supply suddenly by setting something on top ( if you notice in the video we had the top covered about 75% to demonstrate this. But other things can happen such as a blower failure or power outage that can produce the same effect - flame out with vapor still being produced with sudden ignition if the furnace is very hot. This is also identical in reaction with our small 5" camping stove, just on a smaller scale - it still has quite a pop if you are too close. Normally though both of these just run for days without any of the explosion problems. Thanks again for your input and always practice safety first with any of these oil burners they are worth respecting.

[@d.i.ynitatay3004]

i understands i think its better how handle safely not dangerous

[@nickwinn7812]

A vapourised combustible can cause an explosion regardless of size. DO NOT BE COMPLACENT!

[@RajendranG2586]

Dangerous.No oil stove.Onely Wood stove.and safety.

[@learn2farmagain30]

Hey rajendran, Thanks for the comment. There are definitely dangers to an oil stove, but there are some similar dangers with a wood burning stove too. Dangers such as touching a oil or wood burning furnace, or having clutter around either. We must be careful with any hot surfaces. The same can be said of a stove top burner, propane, electric, or natural gas. Knowing the dangers and then preventing injury are the important factors here. But definitely never use anything that you do not feel comfortable with. We do need some way to cook, shower, and stay warm. Just find your favorite.

[@Dahbby01]

an amateurs

[@learn2farmagain30]

Hello Pascal, Thank you for the comment. Yes, there are many amateurs out there, but I think many of us are amateurs at this since homemade blue flame waste oil heaters are a relatively new development. As the Word says in Daniel 12, knowledge shall be increased in the time of the end. We are able to learn much more now through the sharing of ideas across the world today. Happy building. Maybe you could demonstrate your professional burner model on KZbin someday for all to see?

[@MrSprintcat]

This whole video reminds me of Magoo LOL very informative but heck Magoo goes to drive over the bridge and ends up on the top girders drives all the way down the other side and waves goodbye