Its always interesting to see how other wastewater plants handle their process control testing
@daniellethewatertrainer5 жыл бұрын
At 4:15 you say your are calculating your mixed liquor suspended solids number. The test you demonstrated was for total solids (SM-2540 B). You would have to filter your sample and weigh your dried filter paper residue to get the suspended solids number (SM-2540 D).
@AthensWWTP5 жыл бұрын
Good point! Thanks for the correction. In fact, I got more than that wrong. MLSS would require a lot more information to calculate , aeration tank volume etc. The drying method was for total solids. Thanks for watching!!
@ahmadshawaf57044 жыл бұрын
Hello .. Thank you very much. I want to know if there is a way to determine the amount of phosphorous in the secondary sludge produced by biological treatment
@davidmercer30434 жыл бұрын
very well done and narrated
@walterhiggins91232 жыл бұрын
Good job on the video!
@jijingihemenemmanuel4464 Жыл бұрын
Can this be monitored on computer connected to the process?
@burtrussel15358 ай бұрын
Yes, you can use an inline TSS probe in the aeration basin. Being able to have constant monitoring feed of the basin TSS is the way to go because you can see deviations in a trend. If the mlss is slowly dropping, you likely have an equipment failure of RAS pumps, or mixers... Your solids are selling somewhere. Or your losing a ton of solids in the effluent... I prefer to have inline tss probes and run mlss daily.
@feedyourfaith73925 жыл бұрын
I have a question do you know why DO is not part of the wastewater permit but the pH is on the final effluent
@AthensWWTP5 жыл бұрын
Is DO not on your DMR to report? Our permit states we have to meet a specific mg/l of DO as well as pH.
@feedyourfaith73925 жыл бұрын
Athens WWTP No the DO is not on our permit, I was wondering we have TSS, CBod, BoD, and NH3
@AthensWWTP5 жыл бұрын
Feed Your Faith That is a little strange. During the re-permitting process, sometimes the DEP will add/subtract things to test for. But DO, in my experience, has always remained. And it’s important to aquatic life that the DO is enough for you receiving stream.
@ecafsinep7 жыл бұрын
this is great. my plant is just now building it's own laboratory and i'm preparing to do our own testing, starting with solids testing. i don't have my stantard methods book in front of me, but doesn't it state for MLSS you simply follow TSS procedure, which is drying for an hour, then add on the muffle furnace procedure?
@ecafsinep7 жыл бұрын
also, with your sludge settling that low, what are your MLSS typically ranging?
@AthensWWTP7 жыл бұрын
ecafsinep thank you for your comments. There are many different ways to dry solids. We do it this way because it's simple and we don't have to mess with crucibles or filter paper. Another words, less time in the lab so we can attend to other duties. The down side is the 8 hours it takes to dry the solids. Our mlss changes pretty often due to our location being in a college town and the weather changes. Right now with college out and very warm weather, we are running around 1700. Normally lower, but we are only running one basin right now due to cleaning.
@ecafsinep7 жыл бұрын
hey, thanks for replying! so you can still run MLSS through vacuum flask/funnel and filter? if so, wouldn't the furnace ignite the filter?
@feedyourfaith73924 жыл бұрын
What does the Volatile tell you. The last sample in the oven at temp of 550
@Kalryuabides4 жыл бұрын
There are solids that will burn off, and there are solids that will not (metals and the like) the difference in VSS and nVSS gives you an understanding of your organic solid load.
@feedyourfaith73926 жыл бұрын
So is it better to use the sludge judge to pull the MLss
@AthensWWTP6 жыл бұрын
Wilson Wilson I wouldn’t say it was better...only convenient for us as the sludge judge is always readily available. The sample is homogeneous so either way it will work.
@feedyourfaith73925 жыл бұрын
If the pH is under 5 going out the effluent why is it a problem? If it’s over 10 why is that a problem?
@AthensWWTP5 жыл бұрын
A lot to explain there. You may want to read up on that. PH is very important not just in the effluent back into the receiving stream, but also the treatment process. Microorganisms like a certain pH range to do their job properly.
@stormcld6 жыл бұрын
It’s so much easier to use glass fiber filters much quicker to get results that day
@AthensWWTP6 жыл бұрын
Canuky Alwert Absolutely..your right! There is always better and quicker ways of doing things. This is just the method we stuck with over the years. We do not need instant results, and we can continue doing other things around the plant while we wait. And no more buying filters hahaha. Thanks for the comment.
@thanh81897 жыл бұрын
pls I don't know what the tool do you use to take the water sample?
@AthensWWTP7 жыл бұрын
PHAN THÀNH it’s called a core sampler. Or commonly called a “sludge judge”.
@TurtleboyTom7 жыл бұрын
Why use a sludge judge? The aerated sample is homogeneous. A scoop should do the trick.
@AthensWWTP7 жыл бұрын
TurtleboyTom thanks for the comment. Your right. A scoop would work and we have used those also. The sludge judge is always located nearby so we just use that. We use this also to check sludge depth in the opposite basin. One tool instead of two.
@TurtleboyTom7 жыл бұрын
I figured it was for convenience. Thanks for the reply!
@Kalryuabides4 жыл бұрын
@@AthensWWTP Sorry to give you this 2 years late, but try and use the scoop and not the sludge judge. Your mixed liquor should not include the blanket that will have formed on the bottom. It will give you a false reading, saying your MLSS is higher than it actually is. Just my two cents.
@ronnieperez85194 жыл бұрын
@@AthensWWTP I had no idea that tool was called a sludge judge lol. I started my job at a wwtp and I've used that same tool to check the sludge blanket in our secondary clarifiers
@feedyourfaith73926 жыл бұрын
What is your Alk on your FE
@AthensWWTP6 жыл бұрын
Wilson Wilson We do not have to report alkalinity, so we don’t have any hard lab samples. But...using the test strips we have, we average around 80-100 ppm if I remember correctly.
@feedyourfaith73927 жыл бұрын
What does the settlometer tell you
@AthensWWTP7 жыл бұрын
Margaret Wilson thank you for the question. The settleometer test shows us visually what's going on in our activated sludge process. We look at it like, is it settling too fast,too slow? Is it compacting well? Is there a lot of suspended solids on top of the blanket? Just things like this the assist us in running the plant.
@feedyourfaith73927 жыл бұрын
Can you tell me what does the centrifuge tell you about the sludge?
@AthensWWTP7 жыл бұрын
Margaret Wilson we don't generally use a centrifuge much. It gives you a percent volume of sludge. We find it doesn't really help us much.
@ኢትኤል-ወ5ቘ7 жыл бұрын
please send wastewater treatement procudure manual help me
@AthensWWTP7 жыл бұрын
tekle betre You can look for the Sacramento manuals. They will help a lot.