Watanabe Has a New Frame and People Aren't Happy

[@GrayRavenRadio]

What we can all agree on is Watanabe's new frame is sicknasty.

[@AshbornXVI]

Let's check the boxes Cool as heck mode switch ult? Check Awesome design and references, combined with one of the best models in PGR? Check Good memory design? Check Awesome VFX on his moves? Check Absolute Uncle Wata energy? Check, check aaaaand check People might complain about Watanabe's new class and element but one thing we can all agree on is that his design is absolutely flawless.

[@megatbasyarullah4859]

I can't wait for him to be badass in the story like with his astral frame

[@AshbornXVI]

@@megatbasyarullah4859 And to think Uncle has been actively handicapping himself all the time lorewise. Nightblade frame is actually his first frame and one of the very first Construct models. He basically doesn't use his actual empowered frame, Astral, because he left it behind in Babylonia(and never used it again after Fallen Star). Yet Nightblade Watanabe was the first character to clearly draw blood from Alpha in story.

[@nateklempner561]

Yeah, his look is definitely awesome. He's also definitely getting some kind of Pirate Skeleton coating, either Coating BP shop or FX, as well. I've also noticed that his base Fire FX colors COINCIDENTALLY match Liv Empyrea's upcoming Dark Fairy FX coating that's coming out next patch on Global. IT COULDN'T POSSIBLY ENTICE PLAYERS TO TRY TO GRAB LIV'S NEW COATING NOW COULD IT?!?!?! XD XD XD

[@maryclaris4762]

5:31 Vtuber 2D model teaser debut? 🤭🤔

[@Einbrock]

The lost potential of a full Gray Raven team is the biggest tragedy here, could have been so cool like Cerberus, I really hope Kuro have a big plan for the OG Gray Raven team in the future.

[@rafelt4147]

The original Gray Raven squad is basically Alpha and her old teammates... It's more suited to call the Gray Ravens now as the current Gray Ravens...

[@halleyk7Art]

Correct me if I am wrong but there seems to be a pattern with how Kuro set up the elements in Gray Raven. There are always 2 matching then one different. -Palefire, Lotus = Fire, Eclipse = Physical -Entropy, Luminance = Physical, Plume = Ice -Lux, Dawn = Lightning, Entropy = Physical -Hyperreal, Empyrea = Fire, Plume = Ice Is Kuro intentionally doing this?

[@lol-iy7wv]

​@@halleyk7Arteither that, or they're setting the kitchen on fire and don't know what they're cooking

[@halleyk7Art]

@@lol-iy7wv Maybe they’ll give us ice Kamui so we can make a Strike Hawk team like Cerberus.

[@lol-iy7wv]

@@halleyk7Art Holy, I forgot kamui existed. That's not a bad idea, but I have a feeling he'll end up in phys or replacing chrome instead or something unexpected again

[@will-i-am7087]

Nanami told us to never forget her :(

[@destinationskyline07]

Nanami S normal was my first S rank pull. I stuck with her even if shes not good. As long as we use her, she wont be forgotten.

[@ItzWaL]

Canon event 💀😢

[@SeekGrace]

Never liked her gameplay anyway. Get forgotten, kiddo.

[@Themobmobah]

My reaction went from wow he’s so cool to “HES WHAT?!”

[@Y4ngCP]

Me too lmao, wa expecting an ice or phisical tank frame

[@zobinake]

With those Azure flames when he swings his sword plus the effects on his shots he gave me fire character vibes but I get you honestly@@Y4ngCP

[@Tired_Coffee]

that was my exact reaction too, i was like 'omg watanabe finally has an s-rank frame! he's so cool!' to 'what?? he's a FIRE TANK??? what about poor nanamech?!'

[@Prodigal450]

The only problem i have is that he replaced nanamech before she even got a sfx coating

[@hikarii53]

There's so much potential in her 😭

[@sladelius6174]

She was honestly trash. 😂

[@joaquinnevarez2509]

You know we need to be grateful of Watanabe returning but this is how you treat someone who have been absent from one who have been absent for only one in half year of being absent in the story and this who you all pay him like that oh no be better than this you’ll want him to come back well then here he is and be grateful of how he is right now and you don’t see me complaining at first I was a bit disappointed like you did to him but I just got over it for exactly eight seconds and also we could used some who is more speedy and stealthy then Nanami and that is Watanabe

[@hikarii53]

@@joaquinnevarez2509 who's ungrateful for having Watanabe? people are just upset about his element, nothing else. two different things

[@fakepotato4875]

@@joaquinnevarez2509 id rather have nanami over watanbe anyday

[@Raron-san]

Nanami asked not to forget her, this makes it even sadder, but to be honest, Watanabe only had A rank frames for so long, and now his new S frame is causing drama again, that's also sad

[@kanatae5841]

I repeat the community is not mad about the "powercrep" happening right now it's because there's many slots to fill him on the roster but they really put him on the one that's already completed! Atleast fill in the slots first before doing this because it's really unfair for the other teams!

[@psy4durezo]

Exactly this, it s just a stupid move when there s a whole team being outdated

[@yurika-rie]

Seen an S+ team comparison Between Dark Lamia team and Hyperreal on WZ on their respective element Dark 5.6m+ Fire 2.4m+

[@Ryxerz]

​@@yurika-rieIs Mechanami the problem of the fire team or is it Lee?

[@megatron5592]

​​@@yurika-riethe thing is, as of now, even S rank watanabe doesnt improve fire team warzone by that much (source: bili2 vid posted on fury community post). Only adding 400k point on warzone fire. The main problem on the fire team is not the tank, more on the 8s cooldown of lee hypereal making him weaker that the rest of 2nd gen attacker.

[@kaiseldan5369]

​@@megatron5592Well, even if they remove the 8s CD on his Core, it wouldn't solve anything since he doesn't have enough Orbs for his 2nd DMG cycle anyways What should happen is either give him his Timestop on his 1st Ult again, or remove the 8s CD on his Core + give him random orbs while he activates it (preferably should be enough for Double DMG Cycling)

[@wollyram6248]

I'm just glad Uncle Watanabe is still with us,.

[@Gomeshiro]

It was really weird for him to come out this way not only Plume is really old(when S-ranks didn't come with exclusive Memory sets) Glory also came out without a set to call his own, while Rosetta came with Leeuwenhoek and Luna came with Flamel prior to Glory's debut Sadly Tankanabe means we will not get a Fire tank Lucia to complete an S-rank Gray Raven Squad of the same element for now I hope the future S-rank ice member is not only an Attacker but a new Kamui frame just to have a full Strike Hawk team with Chrome and Wanshi

[@AAAAHHSJD]

I always wondering too! What will wanshi be?

[@utensilscleaner7071]

sadly its Qu

[@Rramune_illuz]

Fr Kamui is outdated, people would probably skip him

[@yeojiherrscherofdepression3645]

I came from the future.... It's not Fire Tank Lucia it's Fire Attacker Lucia 👁️👄👁️💅✨🔥

[@yearslate9349]

I am reminded that there is still no A-rank fire tank in this game. Very puzzling. I was convinced long ago it would be Noctis, but things did not play out that way.

[@farhannugraha1405]

in one side i'm kind a sad nanami got powercreep but on the other side i'm happy cuz watanabe new frame look's sick af

[@saimyintmyat9373]

It was so fast.

[@tsukeda5137]

And she got a new frame too

[@Felix-kn7vx]

The thing with PGR, when a new character power creep an older character, it doesn't mean the old character becomes bad. Nanami Mech is still a really strong character. You don't need to replace her if you don't want to. Think of it more like an optional, some people prefer Nanami, some people prefer Watanabe. Nothing wrong with that. Play whichever you like, it's your game after all.

[@Y4ngCP]

U are kinda right, but just from watanabe passive, he outsupport nanami already 😂

[@solaireofbadciv914]

S Watanabe with sig weapon beats SSS+ Nanamech with sig weapon, and by a landslide, he's very far from "optional"

[@Kilraki]

That is surely a good copium take. While entirely accurate there was literally no good reason to replace a very new unit so quickly. Regardless of 'play what you like, not meta' sentiments he does outright wreck her and as someone who loves Nanami...sure, I'll still play her but it will feel like ass just being inferior for no good reason.

[@animeturnMMD]

Copium XD

[@benayers2408]

@@Kilraki Fire Nanami has been out for over a year on CN, there’s nothing “quick” about Watanabe replacing her.

[@ramramvii]

First, happy bday Lina! I said it in GR but I’ll say it here too. As a certified male character enjoyer, I was so happy that Watanabe was getting a S rank. I’m a massive Rosetta and Chrome fan and Plume enjoyer I was both sad about their retirement but hopeful about a meta Watanabe and the ice team come back This is a total shock and while Rosetta and Chrome are my joint number 1s, Nanami is my first love. I picked pulse from the selector and have never regretted it. This makes me so sad. I hope she still gets skins, it’s the only thing that’ll soften the burn (pun intended) That and a new Lucia and with a Gray Ravens joint ult like Cerebus got

[@Balthor27]

I love you grayravenradio, I've started playing the game since a month ago and you've been helping me so much. Soothing voice too so it's a plus LOL. Keep up the good work! I wish your channel would be bigger soon

[@GrayRavenRadio]

This is so sweet 🥺🥺🥺 Thank you!!!

[@Balthor27]

@@GrayRavenRadio YOU'RE SO WELCOME!! Omg I actually got a reply xDDD Thanks for your hard work! I'm rooting for you two!!

[@oversouldrekon2623]

Conflicted. Cuz Nanami and Watanabe are both my favorite characters, and it's a little sad for me another character who is also my fav replaces her meta-wise. But again I dunno if there's really much of a difference and it's still a long time before he releases so the feelings will pass. On the bright side, I'm so happy Watanabe finally has his own S rank frame. I've been an Astral main for several months now (idk how long), and been wishing for his S rank frame!

[@ocaryord_9959]

Seeing Watanabe new frame and praying to see him more in Story make me wish for a new Rosetta frame just to see her again in the main story (I'll even take a side story for her)

[@RavFromYetti]

He's a pirate? cutlass, eye patch, flintlock pistol and his moves like tarzan. all checks

[@Prodigal450]

Nah he look like solid snake from metal gear solid

[@AshbornXVI]

​@@Prodigal450Solid Snake decided he wanted to be a pirate in a sci-fi world then

[@adamsalik7389]

Raiden from metal gear rising

[@VR-F]

His sig memory memory looks like zeke

[@TsorovanZero]

My only disappointment is that I wanted Lucia to be the new fire tank to complete the GR team. But with things as they are, it looks like I'm going to be a fire team main in the future. Not for the meta, but for the drip.

[@dukemagus]

And for the Ultimate trolling... Make the anniversary surprise characters Top Tier Changyu and Sophia as physical and ice attackers respectively. It'll be the most "hell just froze over" moment in the game's history

[@seancatacombs]

Totally agree about the goal for Leaps being fun gameplay for the silent majority of casual players. Very similar to Mod3 in Girls Frontline, where they weren't to make legacy T-dolls relevant to the competitive meta again, but to catch them up so they can clear Everybody story content and get some really cool refreshed art as an extra perk.

[@simplydave9649]

I'm honestly still torn from the reveal but I am happy that our Uncle finally got the S Rank treatment he deserves after almost 3 years.

[@MarioLuigi0404]

It’s kinda eh that Nanamech is out so fast… but oh my goodness Watanabe’s new moveset looks incredible

[@Invitado-y4g]

What makes me feel weird is how ppl take meta in this game when there's not pvp. The only "pvp" is ranking The only thing i could say is cheese content like babel or norman plan. But that is only for flex so is kinda pointless follow a meta on pgr (A side from power creep)

[@brajanlazaj1133]

The point about leap being for new players doesn't make sense to me. To begin with leaping a character is expensive for old players, so there would be almost no way a new player would be able to leap a character so the only players who would be able to do so would be old players and even then it takes a while to do. And i dont know how much more fun will an old player find a newly leaped character since despite the changes new characters are more fun and the core gameplay of said leaped characters isnt much different from what they were before the leap

[@jcredcoast]

I was hoping he would be a Physical Tank because Bianca Abystigma and Alisa only needs a new tank to be a fully functional new gen Physical Team. Even a new ice attacker or tank would be nice coz it's sad that Ayla is the only new gen unit for ice team.

[@theballance9748]

Bianca team is functional, Ice team is functional bcz of Ayla fire team? despite being fully gen 2 units, fire team still become meme of all elements bcz of Lee downtime fire team is the only one who have awkard delay

[@ecak6124]

@@theballance9748yea I heard in cn fire team is the weakest despite they all are gen 2

[@momogi618]

​@@theballance9748why not new fire attacker then? are they gonna change the full roaster from the tank? if yes then thats a brave move.

[@joaquinnevarez2509]

And for me if Kamui comes back with his third new look frame I think i rather prefer him to be either a ice and attacker type or a lighting and amplifier type but I think I prefer the second one because we really don’t have any male characters how are amplifiers

[@setovessalius]

wonder if there's a chance of new Kamui being S physical tank just like his A rank frame

[@ohreally69]

S 21 is already lightning amplifier,so i doubt a new one will come that soon,it hasn't even been a year

[@joaquinnevarez2509]

@@ohreally69 i know but still we need another one but this time a male

[@joaquinnevarez2509]

@@setovessalius could be but we might not yet

[@zxxskk5740]

I do agree with ice DPS bur for now amplifier role for each team has been filled so I don't see any point to release another new amplifiers but since this is the beginning of gen 3 so who know.

[@leonlai7976]

Ok but LOOK AT HIM OH MY GOD. I COULD NEVER BE MAD AT SUCH A GOATED MANS

[@HexaDecimus]

Its kinda sad that Noan is overshadowed in his own patch by this news.

[@AshbornXVI]

Noan already got overshadowed by the fact he is an Un right before a major character debut, Watanabe heating up more debates just makes my boi more forgotten sadly

[@D4rkn3ss2000]

Leaps make some characters more interesting or give them a little buff. My main issue with Leap system is that IT IS WAY TOO FLIPPIN EXPENSIVE for the how little of an upgrade it provides for characters. I wish leap upgrades weren't as expensive, that way it can balance the benefits.

[@whatamess8894]

Little of an upgrade? man, they got a lot stronger, Lee Pelifire when he received his upgrade he literally became a fire god. some of them actually got broken. but of course they won't be stronger as new characters in the meta. and the rank s gain the possibility for you to farm shards and possibly put them in sss

[@Muthy]

I wouldn't say that the upgrades are underwhelming, the leap system changed some characters in a good way and they got a LOT stronger, but it's still way too expensive though

[@momogi618]

this, i just found out about leap system and find i got 6 un and like 4 cons to leap and it depress me greatly lol. they do give us that un stage to farm but any idea where to farm the cons part?

[@Erocks301]

Yeah I was kinda bummed about this but when it comes to these types of games I'm far from surprised.

[@RyItar]

Super happy that he gets new frame. Weird that he is a fire tank. But as you said maybe Kuro is cooking something good and they have some deeper plan in that and we are just worry too much.

[@nbO-fm8dn]

💀 idc what the meta is I'm going to save up for Watanabe and pull him and put him with Bianca Abysstigma

[@rizme7]

well right now, im only been focusing on slowly upgrading Lee, Lamia and rearranging bianca's build in my cn but on my fullest opinion on this upcoming patch, Is that Im hype for watanabe's new frame but I just kinda didnt expected for him to be a tank type, I thought it'd be an attacker since Nanami was already my target on my fire tank team...

[@whitehebi841]

I don't really have a problem with uncle getting a new frame: it looks amazing, and he's sure to be an awesome addition to fire. I pull for everyone anyways, so it's not like i lost anything out of this, but as you said, Lucia Plume *really* feels bad to play right now, and i would love something to spice up the ice team.

[@sunghoonkisser]

but it got me wondering why fire is still labelled as scuffed, when compared to current dark and lightning even with a gen 3 fire tank. Is hyppereal that underwhelming when compared to lamia/weave?

[@Chadaragi-san]

Hes my favorite construct so im very happy

[@trinhgiabao4174]

Seeing uncle flash art at the end has me remember the hype in the stream that i lost when watching his gameplay

[@y.matocinos8448]

I got Starfarer as my Fire Tank a few patches before; I got her after 30+ rolls in the debut banner, and then I got her weapon after 20+ rolls. I haven't resonated her, and she's still S Rank, but I have a lot of fun using her. Seeing the calendar for upcoming patches, I was prioritizing obtaining Hyperreal soon, while saving up BCs for Scire's Idol Skin, since I also have to get BRS (I would, at least, get her to S Rank or SS Rank plus get her weapon). Maybe I'll have to skip Fire Tank Watanabe, but it's not too much of an issue for me. What matters most to me personally is that I'm having fun with the characters I have, and that I'd be having fun with the characters I'm planning to pull for. That's something I like about PGR's global gap at least: I get to plan ahead, and I'm guaranteed to get the character I want. Nope, I'm not too iffed about Fire Tank Watanabe, but Glory and Plume deserve a buff at least, or a Leap system (unless Kuro is COOKING something hella tasty).

[@rinkoshirokane6602]

Just glad that Uncle Watanabe is back.

[@ZonzaAce]

I had the same discussion too that BRS collab is happening. Kuro could've thought oh hey fans come in and get BRS, with the standard banner change from Lamia patch get Soliv with blue tickets, and then the following patch pick up Big Wata for a fully optimal fire setup for their BRS. I still understand the disappointment others have with his role, but he's still really cool and I await for the sound team to work their magic for live. As a whole though since we know Qu is the next S-rank more people may be on edge that she's ice. It's not impossible they pull a Ruined Sea scenario where they deliver new Ice Attacker Qu and a leap for Glory for a semi 2-for-1 deal like with Balter + Rosetta leap, but people may just want direct replacements at this point. Plume + Glory being so old and no leap upgrade coupled with the community hoping for a new omega weapon Lucia frame eventually. Soliv, Gundami, and Selena always felt vulnerable due to no SS3 upgrades anyways, granted selena got several free buffs and free too SSS...eventually. Hopefully the upcoming Qu, anni, and cny series of patches satisfy others. I'm happy with uncle, but man after AC6 I need my playable Radiant Marcher already Kuro. You don't put that much work into his playable mode in Ayla's patch to never fully polish and have him be a permanently playable option so where is he LMAO. I'm still expecting Lucia might not be until 5th anni as that would be a huge milestone for her, Kuro, and PGR...or maybe she drops in a patch near Wuthering's official launch that could be cool too.

[@Gamorou]

My first impressions on it were light, but the more and more I thought about this situation, the more I ended up thinking that it will cause more problems than just for people that care about "meta", I have written a comment about it in reddit which I will repost here with additional stuff as well: In this specific case it isn't really a big problem for me since I love Nanami a lot and play for waifu>meta, but these things can even be problem for people that play Waifu/Husbando>Meta and I will explain how: No.21 is my second favorite character in the game, with the first being Sophia, now imagine how I would feel if they released a new Sophia Electro Amplifier frame when Feral Scent 21 didn't get much use. If they keep going this route they went with Watanabe it is something that can happen with anyone in any patch, it shouldn't be something only meta players are worried about, you that play for waifus or husbandos should also be worried about having a new frame of your waifu/husbando disputing the slot in your team before you even could even get to use them properly, its not good for anyone really. Even if I tried to really go against meta and use two amplifiers of characters I like to do warzone and such things, I would still be shelving another character in my comp sooner than I should, that does not give a good feeling. The new Watanabe looks fun and his design is good, its that he having a powerful and unique SS3 and he replacing a gen2 tank when there is only 2 of them and there is still 3 comps needing new gen2 really leaves a bad taste in my mouth, the solution to Nanami does not need to be a leap, they could just buff her like they did with Selena multiple times, give her a time stop on Sig1 as well and make so she can shred without relying on Einsteina or copies.

[@vincentcarl9907]

She got 1 and a half years of use. Relax. But it is a tad disappointinh

[@Y4ngCP]

​@@vincentcarl9907yeah, but plume get how mich time? 3 years lmao

[@vincentcarl9907]

@@Y4ngCP too long lol

[@JustLion890]

Nah. This was supposed to be other role and element. Definitely isnt this one. Even so fire team are still weak despite gen2 and up unit. Kek. Catching an L from the start of the game. Cn i meaj

[@WOD-lucifer]

Worth it i missed nanami at the global and now Watanabe is coming i really felt kuro was listing to my comments of sadness 😂

[@excalibour00]

As a new player here in global, it's kinda sad to try to build a team but know that in a few months there will be new characters that will easily power creeped mine. I wish they made leaps such that the leaped character would still be very close to the new meta character. I don't even want to leap my luminance now considering how much it costs. Also, I completely forego the ice team cause the team is so old 😔.

[@SkywardKkalox]

You can run bambinata/double ayla as your ice team once the new ayla frame drops, you can sub in wanshi as well instead of S Ayla atm, that's more than enough to get you started till Qu comes + future ice team members.

[@kirigaru1955]

I love the now animation at 00:55

[@josephpaolomendoza608]

As a new player I got rosetta on the past free S rank selection and alpha as my first character pull. Now I came back because of new Bianca and luckily I got her early.

[@deadwav3]

I got lucky with starfarer during GL anniv's 100% rate up banner for older S rank omnis (at pity 30, got her with only the 2.5k event r&d ticket from the logins) so it doesn't affect my pulling plans too much. On one hand I'm kinda sad that my girl got outclassed so early (you will be missed :'D), but on the other it made me thought of fun comps that I can do with starfarer and new wata so I don't get bored easily (double tanks + empyrea, only double tanks, etc)

[@BepsiZer09]

All I say is What in the goddamn are those fellers over down in kuro cooking in there? And one more thing, guess I'm running a two tank fire team cause I love Nanami and Watanabe too much to use one over the other

[@DinnyForst]

Kuro doesn't know how to balance between element units and went to powercreept route for revenue. People can say waifu/hasbando over meta, but endgame design will eventually force you to invest core meta at some point.

[@kennnnn]

In the long run, we can expect the game to go on for at least 4 more years. That means there is plenty room left for gen 3, 4 and 5, so i'm not worried about ice team being left behind.

[@IvagaanimaI]

So yeah in short I'm extremely scared to think that Kuro doesn't really know where to go with the realeases of S ranks... Or they might just be cooking af as you said, if that's the case then it's fine haha

[@joaquinnevarez2509]

We should all be grateful of him coming back and also be grateful of his both types like his elements and role types and besides I think we might need to replace Nanami with someone more speedy and slightly and that is Watanabe

[@MYWanCh]

Fr

[@unknown_unfound]

Nanami is still a smooth and fun frame but is hard to use against humanoid enemies

[@joaquinnevarez2509]

@@unknown_unfound well that depends

[@unknown_unfound]

@@joaquinnevarez2509 I mean ofc with enough skill you can dodge em, but smaller enemies tend to be covered up by her massive model which can be an issue at times if you dont hear the prompt to dodge like the little ping or whatever its called

[@joaquinnevarez2509]

@@unknown_unfound like I always said to all of you of me of my team ups I don’t used recommendations team ups I just used my team ups in a whatever ways

[@iwanomorgan6557]

Still gonna use Nanamech lol Don't really care about meta or what anybody thinks. Been playing by favorites since the game launched

[@Briliantless]

It is obvious what Kuro will do next New Lucia frame with brand new class and new type element: light

[@ecak6124]

Yea it possible they cooking somethin and also heard that qu is getting an s omn soon

[@agrrox]

Lots of Gen1 replacement candidates (some of which are about 2 years old) and they decided to replace a Gen2 fire tank thats like year old instead. Not only that, but there's still no A-rank fire tank. I'm disappointed with what Kuro is doing.

[@CheztaAhmad]

im happy he's getting new frame bcs that means i get a breather to gather BC for others

[@zxccorp6281]

i really want to pair him with hyper lee, and liv empyrya, i wonder how its gonna work

[@GrayRavenRadio]

It's gonna work great because those three together are the optimal Fire team!

[@WillBoy182]

I started with PC client and Starfarer was my first S rank I got in a lucky pull before I even really knew what I was doing. She then carried me through story, WZ, PPC, you name it. I know a game like this sort of has to power creep in new units so people will spend but it does make me a bit sad. I like Wata and I'm glad his new frame looks good, but I will never forget Nanami.

[@salsabillahputri5858]

I ain't skip Uncle after waiting 3 years man, he's the reason I'm staying in PGR because Dagger user are my favourites. Yes my Nanamech already fully build and I love her, I can afford some more bundles so Uncle and Nanami can eating mints candy again when they meet ❤

[@zacharydeguzman7377]

That's pr wholesome

[@HowAreYou2]

Based mindset

[@Moretropes11]

My theory is that after Qu comes out Wanshi will be our next ice tank. Chrome glory is really old at this point and Wanshi was already an ice character and since we have Ayla as an amplifier this makes the most sense to me.

[@zak8358]

kuro is full of suprises we dont know what they will do next but that what i like abt them

[@NIMMGAMINGTV]

Nanami is my top SSS Fire character now Im not worried yet because this new Watanabe frame is still far from Global release.

[@TheNameGone07]

Don't care, I still gonna get him anyway His design and moveset looks so sick af. Fire tank with dark visual

[@Kagetora-]

Uncle Wata is hot as well

[@simplythecat4068]

I'm just kinda confused with the logic behind elements on characters. Ayla, painter, PAINT(liquid, possibly a throwback to the painter boss) - ICE? Yes. Lamia, mermaid, WATER - ICE? Nope, dark. Watanabe, pirate, WATER - Ice? NOPE, FIRE./ Watanabe, ghost pirate, GHOST - DARK? nope. SIKE! No color coding, no visual coding, complete mess of a character design.

[@JstTrvllg]

Qu will be the anniversary S rank ice attacker. Extreme hopium

[@ponyforhire]

Secretly holding out for Wanshi ice attack frame :3

[@geebeepman]

I didn't really consider it from a new player perspective. thinking about it, I don't think I would be playing pgr or stay for long if I were a brand new player instead. the only reason I can keep up as f2p is by already having built up teams and accumulated resources from playing the game since launch and by skipping uns entirely. saving bc's in pgr is more of a pain than it really should be since since its genuinely the only gacha I've played where it really feels like there's zero rate-up(I've never pulled a 5 star outside of hard pity as well as even losing several 80/20's on weapon banners) so I end up spending more bc's than I'd like.

[@Merotryz]

I like Watanabe to be honest. I always liked the Forsaken as a group, which to me feel more realist than the others, but they along with Watanabe get tossed aside relegated to minor appearances.

[@ForsakenMidnight]

Pretty much my thoughts on them. They're not as colorful as some other characters, but that's why I like them. It just also fits better in the dire post apocalyptic setting.

[@belial4327]

wait there is 1 more thing that just came to mind, alpha crimson weave has a burning eye like black rock shooter, the new watanabe looks a lot like raiden. DOES THIS MEAN NEXT COLLAB will be metal gear rising revengeance :D oh noo fighting against mister armstrong would be so amazing. It could actually happen, because it being an action game. and as icing on the cake watanabe will have the mexiacan outfit that you can get in mgrr. XD

[@lolegaia]

As a player wall i wanted is to challenge all kind of content , doesn't matter if it's old character or new since i'm not that petty. There's no bad one or good one if you're enjoying the game yeah?.

[@babadookdi4921]

Tbh I’m not mad about this, mainly cuz at least in PGR, pretty much every single unit in the game is useful in its own way, they all are unique and cool to have, even the outclassed and power crept units can come in handy in modes such as babel or Norman. Plus I personally prefer it if Lucia replaces her plume unit as an ice attacker just like how Nanami replaced her own older tank units, I’d like her to still have a role in gameplay as the main character( I know Alpha is also Lucia but still her path is kinda separate from the main character role which is Lucia plume atm), or some actual new characters to be added for the ice team like the merciful one or some other story characters who haven’t got a spot in gameplay yet.

[@UC3M9QmuafgJ7GCcEF2HDNQA]

"New players could really benefit" Unless you're me and get 2 random Starfarers right before his drop. One from the first 40 pity standard banner and one from BRS banner :(

[@kirigaru1955]

Also leaps are cool, but are painfully expensive. I just came back for Stigmata, and now i hace to get leaps for Lumi, rigor and im in the middle of Astral leap 😢 ill be using my physical team in 2024

[@HSMJose7]

I would really like for Kuro to introduce a new element to the game bcs there are way to many characters that players love and want them to be meta for the only 5 elements that are currently in the game but that would also mean characters might get boring for being in the meta for too long like Lucia, Glory or Rosetta(i personally don't mind). Still i think there are more pros of having a new element than cons, bcs having a character removed from meta too soon is way worse than having a character in meta for a long time.

[@astationarylife]

I think a lot begrudgingly love S Watanabe rn and it’s just going to take some time before him being a fire tank will be accepted

[@IO-hh3gw]

I was so sure Watanabe will be a Physical Tank at least cuz it will be fun lore-wise since him & Bianca is kind of not in good terms, imagine them complimenting each other on a team? Like isn't that ironic & funny.

[@Y4ngCP]

I thought the same bro... pretty sad that it isn't

[@nekoyin8040]

I cant wait to main him I’ve been a wata main since day 1

[@Zombina638]

I think ppl who are complaining and whining rlly need to think

[@ReàIzam]

I mean I don't mind as long uncle Watanabe got his glowup

[@MoBiii_OFFICIAL]

3:25 That's not how new CN players join a game. If it's a new game people will create multiple accounts till they get the best result from initial pull, if it's an old game like PGR new players tend to buy an account with at least some meta characters from third party platform, and sometimes get fucked after spending lots of time and money by the original account owner lol.

[@pariipriyu2100]

I can't blame the people looking for a new physical tank, but kuro formulated rosetta to be very future proof. It's actually hard to cook when there's already a tank that has 100% def reduction, which is fundamentally what kuro made tanks for. She already has decent burst damage and her kit still holds up well in the meta, not to mention her gameplay isn't that much simple as gen 1, which makes her much more interesting to play. She is designed too well for her own good, even if she gets replaced, I'd doubt she'd be rendered non viable, she still has that unique advantage against the alpha boss and i think that's just biased futureproofing on kuros part. Lesson is, don't be rosetta.

[@VincentLloydM]

Oh my god I love Ayla, she's so freaking beautiful.

[@yuppppy]

bruh.. no nanami shes one of my favorite units and shes outclassed so fast.. thats sad to see i love playing her

[@diostone6975]

That slow motion on bianca tho, i see what you're doing lol

[@animeturnMMD]

When Bianca Alter was released I commented in other video that "the age of shameless power creep in PGR is starting" and some people even insulted me for daring to say bad things about Kuro and here we are, Nanami SF hasn't even a year out and we god a brand new fire tank, Honkai Grave Raven is here people, powercreep after powercreep with few months of difference is a reality in PGR.

[@corporealaegis9634]

Can't get power crept if you don't pull **taps head**

[@AkxzL]

I love it cause I don't need Nanamech now Haha! Ice will probably get a new frame for Ice teams after Watanabe.

[@JustLion890]

Must be un next couple of patch

[@N0XEL]

Imo they should add a new element, light and water being the obvious options they could add, anniversary is a great time to announce that, have the new s rank after watanabe be a free s rank attacker and after that have the new element start getting characters.

[@Y4ngCP]

If they would add water, they should made lamia water... was the obviusly way

[@guizarxxi]

Looking back, the outrage was really unwarranted. At this point in the meta, nanamech is doing essentially no damage on the field and a waste of space on the fire team, even with Lee being the worst 2nd gen attacker Watanabe is what was needed on the team

[@DriveAxe]

As someone who started in Starfarer patch - I'm fine with Nanami being replaced by Watanabe. It's not like Nanami is turning useless anyway. Maybe if I invested heavily into Nanami to get her to SSS/SSS+ I'd be mad but even still - from what I've seen characters in PGR seem to have a really, like REALLY long time lifespan. And most of them don't even compete with each other. So you still feel like your investment into favorite characters is worth your time and resources and you get fun out of playing them. Which is the most important thing in the game for me and the reason why I love PGR.

[@Y4ngCP]

Yeah u are kinda right, but it doesn't excuse the outdated ice team or roseta tank 😂

[@RobLucciXIII]

I've been waiting for a new Ice attacker for a while. Guess I'll wait longer.

[@eckysgaming]

Yep that's me somehow got 2 Bianca Veritas from standard banner One during grand blue And one during Haicma patch

[@BiDo527]

Some people are really upset about it but meanwhile, where changyu/sophia new frame? Hope kuro remembers them at least

[@hamimavalon8332]

I mean according to most of the global gacha games logic , a character outperforms another within 5-6 months most of the time and here we can literally see that Nanami gonna still give us another 1.5 years of service. So I am not really complaining, even though I expected Watanabe to be an ice tank or dps but it's alright

[@AshbornXVI]

Major thing that caused this whiplash was community expectation, meta demands and the usual Kuro pattern of giving around 2 years of shelf life for units. And some characters were replaced even within that time window of 2 years in PGR before, one such case being Wanshi getting replaced for Ayla as the Ice Healer(totally justified tho)

[@hamimavalon8332]

@@AshbornXVI people playing global but their brains are playing CN 😔

[@AshbornXVI]

@@hamimavalon8332 Honestly i sometimes wonder if i'm the only madman that is Global-exclusive who uses CN patches for the foresight and investment planning alone. I can only gauge the "feel" of a meta once i'm experiencing it after all. But if the CN bros are having similar reactions, i really respect them,because after all they are living in the epicenter of the changes.

[@hamimavalon8332]

@@AshbornXVI can't blame you bro. We all follow the CN patch to follow what should we invest for and what we should not unless we like

[@theballance9748]

@@hamimavalon8332 these type of players is usually doesnt last long lmao

[@MotivationExceeds]

I think Kuro just want us to pull for 2 copies and get ss3 from PPC in general after Scire.

[@Pibear89]

At the end of the day, everyone benefits. Sooner or later every element gets updated, and for those owning plume AND chrome it just means you dont have to replace them that much sooner vs 1 fire tank right? Looking at positives can be hard sometimes.

[@redscarf2766]

Imagine if they released 2 new s ranks in the anniversary like in the last year. But rather than being ice its new lightning attacker and fire attacker.

[@savagelove1939]

A secondary fire team would be good. Main fire would be Emp, Wata, Hyperreal and secondary would be Sofia, Nanamech, BRS or Palefire

[@apharmdj1605]

I'm no meta player, so him being fire tank is pretty much welcomed, seeing how long fire team became a pure meme team back then before Gen 2 fire chars, now that meme shifts towards ice team. No matter how outdated ice team right now, its still relevant, compared to meme fire team. Second, Lucia plume still no new release despite almost everyone else, especially GR team, makes me wonder kuro definitely cooking to release a pure HUGE surprise on next anniversary, the same way they did with new Alpha. Whether its gonna be new ice attacker or ice tanker or whatsoever. Overall, ppl just got their pants burned by Watanabe S rank.

[@renmanjares5314]

But currently in China server Lee's the one who got replace by Nanami pulse or Nanami starfarer

[@ishalltearu]

Now I'm hype for Qu and the Main Story as always.

[@challacustica9049]

I'm just happy about the new frame.