WATCH BEFORE YOU BUY | Which SUBWOOFER Should You Choose? - Sealed vs Ported Subwoofers

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@KoLjAx
@KoLjAx 2 жыл бұрын
Kudos to this guy. He gives concise yet simple enough explanations for normal people to understand the technicalities of the convoluted hi-fi world and presents it in a very entertaining manner.
@ivanbluetarski9071
@ivanbluetarski9071 8 ай бұрын
9 out of 10 submariners prefer sealed subs 😉
@bivitabrata3188
@bivitabrata3188 2 ай бұрын
because the last 1 cannot pick any preference from the crushing depth of the ocean...
@USMC-es4yy
@USMC-es4yy Ай бұрын
Blahhhhaaaaahaaa!!! Good one!
@edwilson7187
@edwilson7187 2 жыл бұрын
Been designing speakers for many years and speakers have changed a lot. Some are best in ported and some sealed according to the speakers parameters. Personally I will take properly designed ported sub over a sealed box. It's all in how much you spend and how good the box design is but really it's all about personal preference in he end.
@algniazdo
@algniazdo 2 жыл бұрын
Yep that what he said, well designed engineered ported box will sound same if not better than sealed
@doemaeries
@doemaeries 2 жыл бұрын
How would you determine if a chassis ist best for sealed or ported? I've read that if fs/Qts is around 50, it's best for sealed while a value around 100 is best for ported. What do you think about that?
@77Brainfreeze
@77Brainfreeze 2 жыл бұрын
@@doemaeries This is called EBP and it's a good starting point but you can still make a high EBP driver work, the box size might just not be optimal. If you already have the driver you can make it work you just need to model it and see what you're in for. If you don't have the driver yet it would be best to buy the driver to fit the style of box you want to build.
@benboyer2776
@benboyer2776 Жыл бұрын
@@algniazdo 100%
@wadimek116
@wadimek116 Жыл бұрын
Until you get to extreme high end and then only sealed make sense
@OOICU812
@OOICU812 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but if your idea of an ideal subwoofer is one that booms the loudest and rattles the most nearby car windows at the stoplight, you definitely want a ported system.
@4k_ace
@4k_ace 2 жыл бұрын
I wanna be able to hear it and feel it
@4k_ace
@4k_ace 2 жыл бұрын
imo i want a clean sound that doesnt rattle but you can still hear it
@HarjotSRekhi
@HarjotSRekhi 2 жыл бұрын
I want that rattling
@4LED
@4LED 2 жыл бұрын
Nope an open BaffLED using the Trunk (if there is one) will do more damage...
@johndough8115
@johndough8115 2 жыл бұрын
My SEALED house speakers generate far more Vibrational bass, than my Ported speakers. The Port does not change make the speakers any more powerful. The Magnet strength, Coil strength, are what create the strongest potentials. The Subs shown here, are not for Car Audio. They are for home theatre, and possibly also to add depth to music. Unless you live in the middle of the country... you cant blast High Air Pressure Subs, in a typical apartment. Furthermore, Its Immoral, to blast Car Subs in the City. People live in the apartments above the storefronts... and it Ruins these peoples Sanity, and Lives. It also ends up dragging down property values... when the local Drug dealer parks their car, and keeps blasting their sub, at 3am. Keep pushing people like myself... and you will find out, just what can happen...
@saravanasukku338
@saravanasukku338 Жыл бұрын
Recently i bought epos els sealed 10 inch sub...it changed completely my home theater experience ..wow...amazing..it gives immersive experience through out the whole movie
@tac6044
@tac6044 2 жыл бұрын
I used to always automatically go for large ported subs. It seemed common sense they would dig deeper and be better for movies. This all changed when I was gifted a small little Martin Logan Dynamo 10" sealed sub. It utterly destroyed my SVS. It plays clean to the low 20s and also has really tight punchy bass. Best of both worlds and I've never owned a ported sub that did both of these things well. Was blown away by that little ML sub.
@Stan_the_Belgian
@Stan_the_Belgian 2 жыл бұрын
Which svs...? Ultra 16?
@benboyer2776
@benboyer2776 Жыл бұрын
@@Stan_the_Belgian no way possible it was a 16 ultra. The 16 ultra would lay waste to that Martin Logan 10…
@Stan_the_Belgian
@Stan_the_Belgian Жыл бұрын
@@benboyer2776 agreed but he's talking about a large ported svs...
@jokim9882
@jokim9882 Жыл бұрын
@@Stan_the_Belgian maybe pb1000😂
@cconnon1912
@cconnon1912 Жыл бұрын
@@benboyer2776- design and quality components matter. That Martin Logan was probably much more expensive too. I went from a huge 400w sub to a REL (T2) 10” with passive radiator that was better at basically everything. Music and movies. It was more $$$ of course.
@Packer1290
@Packer1290 2 жыл бұрын
Ported for Home Theater. Sealed for music. POrted is going to give you that steady deep rumble when the jet liner goes across your screen. Sealed is going to give you that tighter, less boomy sound for music. I have 2 HSU VTF-2 MK5's used for 95% home theater.
@antoniocalimero1173
@antoniocalimero1173 Жыл бұрын
Ported Is mainly made for and sold by musicians. A frequently purchased subwoofer is, for example, the Yamaha HS8S and JBL LSR310S. Then a ported turns out to be better 🤔
@Grimmsha72
@Grimmsha72 2 жыл бұрын
I've always preferred sealed. I also like just ten inch subs for the much tighter quick hard hitting bass they reproduce. Though in my huge roomy 85 GMC Suburban, just wide open no trunk, bass lacked in that wide open environment. The same amp/sealed box/speakers in my Ford Tarus was much more pronounced sitting in the trunk then in the Suburban. The type, how they are arranged, the box and the amp can really make a huge difference depending on the setting they are placed into trying to get the sound you are looking for.
@angrodNumenesse
@angrodNumenesse 2 жыл бұрын
Oddly enough, Ford used the trunk space in the Taurus to be a 'box' to help with bass. There were two 6x8 speakers in the rear shelf standard but there was also a spot for a 6x9 speaker that was meant to be used with the JBL systems that were optional on those cars. I didn't have the JBL system in my Taurus, just the MACH audio, but with some work I managed to add a line driver before the main MACH amp. The line driver had a subwoofer line out which I ran to a small (300 watt) sub amp and a 6x9 speaker I added in the rear shelf. I didn't have it loud but it added quite a bit of low end bump. Depending on what I was listening too the inside of the car would shake at a moderate volume. I miss that car and the system (I kept the components.) The factory Sony system in my Fiesta just can't compare.
@Clint3571
@Clint3571 Жыл бұрын
A good sub of any size can produce punchy bass. I have three 21 inch subs in my theater that can reproduce anything from 15Hz to 200Hz with no problem. When you go to a concert and hear the quick drum bass it is from ported 15 or 18 inch subs, just for reference.
@HenryGonzalez-ws1co
@HenryGonzalez-ws1co 3 ай бұрын
Maybe just need to add another 10 inch subwoofer to get extra SPL keeping that tight accurate bass.
@P3X967
@P3X967 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention the third sub, a combination of closed and ported: passive radiator
@carlosmatias474
@carlosmatias474 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same. Like the old Kenwood ported sealed box I used to have.
@ScooterMakGavin
@ScooterMakGavin Жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention the fourth type of sub. The douchebag. The DB comments unnecessarily on videos that aren't discussing the subject they think it is.
@Stan_the_Belgian
@Stan_the_Belgian 10 ай бұрын
It behaves like a ported sub with a steeper rollof
@Stan_the_Belgian
@Stan_the_Belgian 10 ай бұрын
It's not a combination, the port is replaced with a pr
@rare_grooves_shack_1983
@rare_grooves_shack_1983 8 ай бұрын
"slot loaded" (not resonant tuned like altec and ATC ports), isobarik, transmission line, open baffle, and varovents exist too. the frequency response of passive radiators is more peaky
@WouterB76
@WouterB76 2 жыл бұрын
SPL car audio & HT: Ported, SQ car audio & high end home audio: Closed. Great explanation there sir!
@BigRoqq
@BigRoqq 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly like ported subs. My mom has one and I just love the way the bass is so deep. I never liked the full, movie theater type of sound with low frequencies.
@YogiTheBearMan
@YogiTheBearMan Жыл бұрын
You’re def not the only one
@d3vi0uz1
@d3vi0uz1 3 ай бұрын
Funny enough, movie theaters use ported subs.
@BigRoqq
@BigRoqq 3 ай бұрын
@@d3vi0uz1 Just Checked that out. Looks like some do, and some dont. It seems The sub frequencies from your speakers are mostly dependent on your environment.
@dladam7434
@dladam7434 2 жыл бұрын
I t think it all depends on how much musical power (pressure) you need. All subwoofer at big concerts are always open. There is one trick for every speaker to make it sound lower and louder, put it on the hard floor. The way you explain everything is really good.
@coolmonkey5269
@coolmonkey5269 2 жыл бұрын
means down firing
@jtswhitewater4940
@jtswhitewater4940 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this explanation! In building custom boxes for my truck I noticed when I added ports as I was meant to I lost clarity, this clearly tells me that what I want is a sealed box 👍
@troycote4503
@troycote4503 2 жыл бұрын
I always used sealed boxes, my last had 2 JL w3s nice and clean. Miss them.
@dizzywow
@dizzywow 2 жыл бұрын
Are you sure those ports were properly engineered? Probably not.
@lurkskylurker6278
@lurkskylurker6278 3 жыл бұрын
This is a really good video. Well done. You saved me from worrying and wasting time about something I don't need to worry about. Sealed sub in my car for me! Thanks!
@valorantorion1588
@valorantorion1588 2 жыл бұрын
This is not always true ive had both sealed and ported i promise you if you put a dual or single skar sdr 12 in your care you will be so much more happy than with sealed ive had and used both and I still have one bc it gets deeper sounds better and it still articulate and musical but loud you don't have to give it all 1200 watts if u dont want put it at the volume you like
@valorantorion1588
@valorantorion1588 2 жыл бұрын
In my personal opinion both sealed and ported are in the past but less ported than sealed because passive radiators are a perfect balance you get deeper and louder than sealed and just as small without having to worry about port noise
@davidcobra1735
@davidcobra1735 2 жыл бұрын
@@valorantorion1588 Car subs with passive radiators have had their niche for a long time but never really picked up. Why do you think that is the case? No, they're not the same size as sealed boxes and they have almost exactly the same problems as basreflex subs. The car audio market is dominated by basreflex subs because they're so efficient and people want to install as few extra batteries as possible. It's as simple as that. Maybe electric cars will change that.
@alexgarcia3900
@alexgarcia3900 2 жыл бұрын
Ported enclosures are far superior but the trade off is that they're way more expensive and need more space, specially if you want a well made box. But I ported enclosure will be way louder than a sealed enclosure and will be more efficient. If you like loud bass, 100% vented.
@errolforney6305
@errolforney6305 2 жыл бұрын
@@valorantorion1588 0
@RichardNutman
@RichardNutman 2 жыл бұрын
That's the most comprehensive explanation of the differences or ported and sealed I've seen, and easy to understand the pros and cons of each. Great video!
@davidzoller9617
@davidzoller9617 2 жыл бұрын
Summs it up. Building a sealed speaker has the advantage that you can quite precisely create your desired "Sound-Design" by the inside Volume (Qtc) of your housing. For a good vented speaker your driver probably will be more expensive then the driver matching a sealed Box design. If you want low bass range for a small driver you have to go for the ported speaker. If you want low bass range in a sealed subwoofer the housing easy gets huge. For people who don't really car much about sound a cheap 2.1 system with a vented sub will just do fine. I got one of these, was under 30$ and for that money it can't get much better. On the other hand, you can buy high prized speakers that are crap. It's mostly just about marketing. A good speaker system is one, that you can enjoy listenimg too all day long, without getting nuts.
@RWRKofficial
@RWRKofficial Жыл бұрын
I made my own 15” 600w PA sub with a wave guide that I built in it The port has a 4inches in height and 16,5 inches in length It’s hits hard!
@LoveOutLoudonutube
@LoveOutLoudonutube 2 жыл бұрын
I have the Kanto Yumi set up with the Sub 8 and it sounds great the 8 sounds as good and goes lower than my mb quart 10 in. I do find it moves on me on a smooth surface. Great video
@b0ltus
@b0ltus 2 жыл бұрын
Put some rubber washing machine pucks under them and your sub won't move again;)
@625098evan
@625098evan 2 жыл бұрын
I built by own box and designed my own port for a sub to go in my 96 civic in high school. I paired it with a cheap pioneer amp and woofer. tried to set it all up to roll off pretty heavily around 40 hz. I thought that would protect the speaker. I was the designated driver to a party one night. my friends were all pretty excited to hear the system I put together. non of us cared to much about sound quality at the time. we cranked the volume and destroyed the sub. I learned the hard way that if you are using a ported box you need to quality sub that won't rip itself apart easily. I never did replace that speaker.
@_klent
@_klent 2 жыл бұрын
Frequency below tuning will damage the speaker.
@billybobby7607
@billybobby7607 2 жыл бұрын
You ported it too high
@leightaylor806
@leightaylor806 Жыл бұрын
Interesting video!! Watching this, my mind went straight to those JBL speakers that use "passive radiators" to emmit their bass, but are essentially still sealed
@stefanweilhartner4415
@stefanweilhartner4415 Жыл бұрын
it is similar like vented regarding the frequency characteristic. but there is no port noise and you maybe have a tiny bit more dampening which leads to more accuracy.
@USMC-es4yy
@USMC-es4yy Ай бұрын
Great explanation..sealed all day for me..I like rock music with fast drumming beats..on that NOTE I prefer sealed for the tightness and accuracy.that tight punch is always better than the boom.. When beats get too fast alotta ported subs tend to flutter almost like there not keeping up...but your not gonna beat ported for movies! On movies when you get an explosion or something of the sort ported is the way to go..
@DjVendetta
@DjVendetta 2 жыл бұрын
Two words. Passive radiator. Best of both worlds. Put one in there and I might buy one.
@jedics1
@jedics1 10 ай бұрын
That is my experience as well, when testing subs the REL with a passive driver sounded the tightest and is roughly the size of the Kanto :)
@DjVendetta
@DjVendetta 10 ай бұрын
@@jedics1i cant stand port chuff. Thats the worst part of porting.
@rare_grooves_shack_1983
@rare_grooves_shack_1983 6 ай бұрын
not exactly... passive radiators have uneven frequency responses. If you want more QUANTITY out of sealed... just add more power + EQ or drivers. I DESPISE boomy flabby bass. The first time bass wowed me was infinity 4 1/2" 2 ways! the bass was soooo tight and fast, if not chest thumping. I'll take quality every time
@carewser
@carewser 2 жыл бұрын
There's a third design too-subs with passive radiators, I own two of them
@gline7758
@gline7758 Жыл бұрын
I put a capacitor and a small coil on the negative line. Slowing it down and therefore creating a lower frequency. In a small space enclosure ( under a car seat ) it gives the thump that you’re looking for.
@user-oe5jl6dr3p
@user-oe5jl6dr3p 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jason, finally a clear explanation on subs. Well done!!
@Andrzej219
@Andrzej219 2 жыл бұрын
Testing subwoofers without sounds LOL this channel certainly has potency :D
@radon222u
@radon222u 2 жыл бұрын
Below the tuning frequency, ported sub driver has enormous excursion as you go down. Sealed on the other hand has limited low excursion even below tuning frequencies. One more advantage of sealed is that the woofer membrane remains rigid compared to vented because the pressure difference in case of sealed across the woofer stays high at extremities as compared to the woofer in vented.
@Dreamer5211
@Dreamer5211 2 жыл бұрын
Good explanation , sealed subs have always had musicality on their side . They are able to recreate the lower registers of the musical spectrum. A ported sub is good for bang bang -- boom boom , personally I would much rather have lower musical notes that just a bang and a boom !!
@Monkeyseemonkey79
@Monkeyseemonkey79 2 жыл бұрын
And the boom from a sealed sub is usually still exciting and impactful (vs not having a subwoofer)
@PlatinumEagleStudios
@PlatinumEagleStudios 2 жыл бұрын
I use a Veliodyne IMPACT-10 ported subwoofer and it's awesome. i prefer ported over sealed because not only does it provide louder bass output, it also provides cooling for the plate amp and the driver itself. In a sealed box, the heat generated from the amp has nowhere to go, and that could be a bad thing. I don't know how they manage to keep sealed subs from breaking due to overheating.
@rightturnnews805
@rightturnnews805 2 жыл бұрын
Put a bottle of ice water near the port to chill it out. It will thank you...
@tomkocur
@tomkocur 2 жыл бұрын
1. Class D 2. Plate itself is a cooler, some amps have heatsinks on the outside 3. There's a significant amount of air inside the box, in a lot of cases its capacity is more than enough to cool down what's needed
@jaefrmbk2k
@jaefrmbk2k Жыл бұрын
they manage tho
@stefanweilhartner4415
@stefanweilhartner4415 Жыл бұрын
with a modern class D amp the cooling is not a problem at all.
@Smart-Skippy
@Smart-Skippy 2 жыл бұрын
I invented a sub based on the transmission line design and registered it with the AIPO. Australian Intellectual Property office. I'd worked in HiFi shops and wanted to make a better sub than was available commercially at the time. I succeeded. I tested Ported designs and settled on a sealed design. Chalk and Cheese. Sealed subs are tight and fast as this video attests. Kudos Kanto!
@waynetrain4636
@waynetrain4636 2 жыл бұрын
kickdrum--->sealed, for everything else ported, it all comes down to the kind of music you hear
@georgewalker9978
@georgewalker9978 2 жыл бұрын
Works different in car audio. All kinds of figures to put in the equation. Cabin size , power supply, wire size, driver parameters, location . I have a 4 door pick up and the only place to fit an enclosure was under the seat. Your backwards on the frequency you get with a sealed box. For lower resonate frequencies a sealed box has to have more air space. A ported box can reach lower frequencies in a smaller enclosure . Trick is to make the port proportional to the available air space and get the dimensions as close as you can to the recommendations of the specific driver's manufacturer. On mine it was real tricky. I had to make a fiberglass base for the subs I needed for the results I wanted. Port was made to spec with dual taper to increase sound compression , multiple chambers for a variety of frequencies. Of course the box was made specifically for the drivers I used.
@stefanweilhartner4415
@stefanweilhartner4415 Жыл бұрын
very good explanation. i like a sealed dual subwoofer architecture where the chassis are opposing each other.
@csimet
@csimet 10 ай бұрын
Good overview. I'm trying out a semi-hybrid design, the RSL SpeedWoofer 10S MKII. It has a non-traditional elongated front firing port (rather long & thin, not round) with extra internal baffling, that is supposed to permit better pressure and response like a sealed enclosure. Everyone I hear is raving about it for a sub
@namgodz
@namgodz 2 жыл бұрын
...and this is why I love the classic Large Advents speakers. Back in the day your 2.0 system was really a 2.2.
@kondirecs
@kondirecs 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on description. Sealed subwoofers are preferable for music; they sound more controlled/more responsive and precise compared to ported, that might be better for surround sound. Many small ported wall speakers should have their ports blinded with foam or other materials to make them more tight and better sounding. Especially if placed right agains the wall. Deep bass is not everything 😉
@kaedeschulz5422
@kaedeschulz5422 2 жыл бұрын
It's aways a matter how they are tuned and designed. With port noise it's off course a matter of size and how each side is rounded off. I build my own speakers and Experiment a lot. If the port tuning is very low (in my case my sub is tuned to 15hz) The group delay caused by being ported is much lower to the point that one can only seperate the sound of it from a sealed sub because it goes lower. IF using the same driver! That being said. Driver choice is a HUGE factor in this! I just built some Bookshelf speakers with a Punktkilde AUGWL0016-JN03 woofer in a about 17liter ported box tuned to 40hz. I expected the group delay caused by the higher port tuning to ruin bass clarity but it didn't. It's actualy the best sounding bass i have heard so far. The next most authentic sounding thing was a PA subwoofer on a concert. So it's always a matter of the sound engineers choices when building a speaker.
@marcelmolenaar5684
@marcelmolenaar5684 2 жыл бұрын
My choice of drivers is Vifa.
@kaedeschulz5422
@kaedeschulz5422 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcelmolenaar5684 They make very good and affordable drivers!
@aktionp20
@aktionp20 2 жыл бұрын
Very good explanation! My personal favourite is sealed with dsp boost for extended range. Then you are almost as deep as ported with none of the negatives! Really got to watch for going past the excursion maximums though!
@dizzywow
@dizzywow 2 жыл бұрын
Equalization does not magically make the negative go away. Ported subs go lower, louder, more efficiently.
@aktionp20
@aktionp20 2 жыл бұрын
@@dizzywow yes, but the sealed enclosure can now go deeper with the dsp. You are correct on the efficiency though. You definitely sacrifice volume.
@kotim1142
@kotim1142 Жыл бұрын
​@@aktionp20 Closed subwoofer is old crap crap ass technology is developing that is not done anymore
@aktionp20
@aktionp20 Жыл бұрын
@@kotim1142 sealed is and always will be better for sound quality. No phase reflections like with a ported. Very minimal difference to the ear but it is there.
@kotim1142
@kotim1142 Жыл бұрын
@@aktionp20 it is full crap not good much worse little brat A closed subwoofer heats up more than a ported subwoofer because it has an air hole It's an old technique and invention, Technology is moving forward and developing better Owl head Yes I know
@ABWSKITCHEN
@ABWSKITCHEN 6 ай бұрын
I have a ported and a sealed in my bedroom, perfect combination.
@GOLFADDICT65
@GOLFADDICT65 3 жыл бұрын
i put the sealed 8 inch Kanto sub with a pair of Kanto Tuks hooked to my PC....WOW i love them
@igorCOD4ever
@igorCOD4ever 3 жыл бұрын
great video! Very interesting and easy to understand, I found all the answers I was looking for. This guy is great!
@KantoSolutions
@KantoSolutions 3 жыл бұрын
We'll let him know 😄
@TheLWebb100
@TheLWebb100 3 жыл бұрын
@@KantoSolutions What's the best subwoofer to get with my Kanto TUK's?
@Aluisiodv
@Aluisiodv 2 жыл бұрын
Subwoofer sealed is better to Bass sound. For drum sound is better subwoofer ported 🔊👍
@drrichardwiesenhuber
@drrichardwiesenhuber 2 жыл бұрын
First time since my studies someone brought up the Helmholtzresonator without mentioning the name or formula. Gr8 video.
@RobbieG17
@RobbieG17 8 ай бұрын
Just ordered my Sub8, to pair with my YU2s. Gets here on Monday, too excited!
@96MustangBoy1
@96MustangBoy1 2 жыл бұрын
So how would you compare the sealed subwoofer to one that has a passive radiator?
@zackdow95
@zackdow95 2 жыл бұрын
that's what I thought of
@dkindig
@dkindig 2 жыл бұрын
A passive radiator essentially mimics the effect of a port so would have the same advantages/disadvantages musically. However, the passive radiator makes it MUCH easier to tune the box (change sizes, change weights, etc) without having to build a port. It eliminates chuffing as well.
@L3x4Pr0ne
@L3x4Pr0ne 5 ай бұрын
I prefer large sealed subs. Feels like you can get the best of both worlds. When I can dig deep and loud without port noise it’s a win
@ravington666
@ravington666 Жыл бұрын
Great video, just one question....more companies are using passive radiators instead of ports. What are the pros & cons of these ?
@goahead3995
@goahead3995 2 жыл бұрын
Some people want to sacrifice accuracy for more loud booms. But I am a person of quality over quantity, thus happy with sealed sub.
@warifaifai
@warifaifai 2 жыл бұрын
Once I opened a subwoofer that it had a ported vent, BUT INSIDE THERE WAS ANOTHER chamber with a SEALED SUBWOOFER. Dayum that design sounded FINE! super precise bass! How doyou call this double chamber design?
@michaelwright1602
@michaelwright1602 2 жыл бұрын
Sealed here baby!
@sreerag48
@sreerag48 4 ай бұрын
I'm using Polk hts 10..it's amazing 😍
@BMLaminates
@BMLaminates 2 жыл бұрын
What about passive rads on sealed subs?
@eddiekilby
@eddiekilby 11 ай бұрын
This was my question to.
@AvgJay50
@AvgJay50 3 ай бұрын
Got REL. Curious too.
@ciobanualexandru7357
@ciobanualexandru7357 3 ай бұрын
Passive radiators replace the air vent...
@TECHNDJ
@TECHNDJ Жыл бұрын
I was a hater for sealed subs until I sealed a 4 inch soundbar subwoofer Lol😂, before seal (poor port design) 72 Hz Fs, After Seal response down to 44 Hz! Soothing bass
@YaYousef5
@YaYousef5 2 жыл бұрын
I was looking for a new small form factor subwoofer for my system. I spent hours on Amazon and had no idea what I needed or what brand to choose. Then I found this video. Your presentation and easy to understand explanation was fantastic. It has inspired me to buy the Kanto Sub 8, which I just bought on Amazon. Thank you!
@KantoSolutions
@KantoSolutions 2 жыл бұрын
That's awesome, hope you enjoy it!
@donkeyle6364
@donkeyle6364 Жыл бұрын
How you felt about the crossover, do you still hear vocal in the sub?
@needmoreboost6369
@needmoreboost6369 2 жыл бұрын
Sealed and ported! Sealed for suspension control and porting for the tone desired
@Jason-sr3pr
@Jason-sr3pr 2 жыл бұрын
Best explanation of port noise I’ve seen. Many thanks!
@Mike-fd7dq
@Mike-fd7dq 2 жыл бұрын
You are very connected to your expertise with comprehensive understanding that's very enjoyable to learn from.
@krevilplays
@krevilplays Жыл бұрын
You need high spl driver + eq with sealed. Then it is no competition. Wins hands down.
@krom447
@krom447 2 жыл бұрын
Sealed also have less problems with room positioning. And all ported have "bass delay".
@spencexxx
@spencexxx 2 жыл бұрын
*fewer
@sithsabapama6660
@sithsabapama6660 2 жыл бұрын
Hip hop ,house ported all day had to send back ma 12 inch sead vs ported 10
@_prodbysanto
@_prodbysanto Жыл бұрын
What subwoofer would you recommend someone to buy between Kenwood, Pioneer, Mobile Authority and Sony xplod
@fluffycat087
@fluffycat087 9 ай бұрын
Nice really good presentation. The ported subs are really nice for movies and the new Yamaha twisted port subs are really good with interesting design features like the square cross section driver wires. I think they have done a pretty good job.
@Lilwebstarr
@Lilwebstarr Жыл бұрын
What is the best setup for a truck? I want hard hitting bass but I also really love boomy sound. I had a JL W7 in my Tahoe and I loved it. I now have a 2022 gmc Sierra AT4X and there isn’t that much room I can fit under the back seats so should I go sealed or ported?
@KantoSolutions
@KantoSolutions Жыл бұрын
There's a saying with subs... they can be good, small, or cheap - pick two. Since you want good bass in a small space you'll have to spend more on a powerful amplifier and a sub that can handle high wattage. For you're application you'll want a shallow mount sub in a sealed box to save on space. I heard good things about Sundown to I modeled their SD-4 10″ D2 in WinISD and you can get down to 40 Hz at -3 dB in a 1 cuft box which is pretty great - if you have the ability to increase box size you'll get louder bass in the lower frequencies.
@Lilwebstarr
@Lilwebstarr Жыл бұрын
@@KantoSolutions Yeah I gotcha. I really wish there was a way I could put 2 12” JL W7’s in that truck. That’s my favorite subwoofer ever I had one in my Escalade.
@_hellogan
@_hellogan 2 жыл бұрын
I need product breakdowns for all Kanto products from this guy.
@orboflightning
@orboflightning 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe I missed it but did you mention the benefits to ported subs? Surely there are pros and cons to each, so what are the pros?
@SSMan-jo6tf
@SSMan-jo6tf 2 жыл бұрын
The benefits are it is capable of lower frequencies and produce more sound with less power although less accurate. Typically if you listen to mostly rap music and or dubstep you may want ported. If you listen to a variety of music types or mainly drums sealed is the choice. IMO
@billybobby7607
@billybobby7607 2 жыл бұрын
@@SSMan-jo6tf problem with sealed is you need a lot of power. A 800w 12" ported sub easily outpaces my 13" 1000w sub. Both have pros and cons.
@aaronbrown5252
@aaronbrown5252 2 жыл бұрын
@@SSMan-jo6tf It also depends on your primary use for the sub such as listening to music vs watching movies on your home theater.
@MTA-tv3fm
@MTA-tv3fm 3 жыл бұрын
Hi I have two 30-watt 6.5-inch subwoofers that correspond to the old edifier r401 speaker. I want to design a common subbox for both and then build, So that it produces maximum volume and volume, as well as deep bass and sufficient vibration (the best and most optimal mode). However, the space limit for this subbox should also be considered, which can be up to 35-40 cm wide, up to 50-60 cm long and up to 70 cm high. In the speaker specifications, the minimum response frequency of the 32 Hz speaker is written, which is probably mentioned with its box.
@andynonimuss6298
@andynonimuss6298 Жыл бұрын
I own a Genelec subwoofer with Laminar Spiral Enclosure bass reflex cabinet. It provides excellent laminar flow characteristics with minimal turbulence noise and allows for a long reflex tube into a small space. It sounds amazing, no chuffing, and is perfectly clear no matter how loud.
@johnwright8814
@johnwright8814 Жыл бұрын
I have one as well, and it has a crossover to limit the bass going to my Genelec mains. Sounds great.
@KevinNguyen-zn4vv
@KevinNguyen-zn4vv 2 жыл бұрын
When I was a teenager, every guy would go for the ported for its bass extension. The sealed didn't have that kick to it. Now, sealed all the way.
@uwebaganz5144
@uwebaganz5144 2 жыл бұрын
This is true, but if you add the normal listening environment you will not hear a difference in precision between sealed or vented subs, but both can be good depending on the room
@johndough8115
@johndough8115 2 жыл бұрын
You are Totally wrong about that.
@uwebaganz5144
@uwebaganz5144 2 жыл бұрын
@@johndough8115 no I'm not
@johndough8115
@johndough8115 2 жыл бұрын
@@uwebaganz5144 I have a ported sub, that I got cheap at a thrift shop. I can hear the port distortions immediately. I also used to own Ported house Speakers. Then I got a pair of sealed speakers. Those ported speakers immediately went to the Curb. It was so much of a difference in sound quality and clarity, that I almost wept at how much I had been missing.. and how Trash the bass sounded in the ported speakers, compared to the Sealed. I have probably owned about 25 different speakers. Its a hobby, and obsession for me. Ported speakers are Trash, Period. They distort the sound, and image.
@uwebaganz5144
@uwebaganz5144 2 жыл бұрын
@@johndough8115 then your sub is trash, my ported sub does not make any port sound or distorts, i made the sub myself with a port that opens on both ends and the construction of the enclosure is well made, also a decent driver is important, sealed box is easier to construct but not better in any case
@johndough8115
@johndough8115 2 жыл бұрын
@@uwebaganz5144 1) Your particular build, is NOT how standard ported speakers work. They use specifically designed (Tuned) tubes, at specific lengths, with the specific diameter and end-flare. The reason for the port like this, is to make an automatic bass frequency sound, any time that air moves out of it. (Hence, the bottle blowing example) Your use of much larger squared ports (NOT TUNED !!!) and use of TWO ports... is COMPLETELY different from standard Ported speakers / Subs. In fact, that design, is closer to an "OPEN BAFFLE" design, rather than calling it a "Ported" design. Hence, why you do not experience typical Port "Chuffs" , and typical port Distortions. But your design misses the entire Point of the Port... which is the Artificial Lowered Bass sounds... that are only created by that specially designed Port hole. Hence, again... making your sub, more like an Open Baffle sub. Which makes your entire Argument, Completely Nullified. And yes, the drive does matter. But put the best drivers into a REAL ported design... and you will still get CHUFFS and Distortions. As for whether Sealed or Open Baffle is better... is a whole other story. Sealed speakers produce plenty of strong vibrational bass. But you will need a very powerful driver to overcome the compressed air. Such a driver will be less efficient requiring much more power, to driver it. Open-Baffles have less natural distortions, as the air is only being limited by the sides of the box. A more efficient driver could be used, as a result. That said, Im not sure that the overall vibrational bass impact, will be as "Tight". And there will probably be a lot more potentials for room distortions, as the bass will be traveling in two different directions at the same time. You will also increase the likelihood of dust and grime getting lodged into the drivers... causing future distortions. Every design has its particular positives and negatives.
@manishthakur5996
@manishthakur5996 2 жыл бұрын
According to me sealed are good for home theatres and ported for music... What's your view..
@melovemusic69
@melovemusic69 2 жыл бұрын
You have it reversed according to experts. Sealed reacts better (quick)and more accurate for music..
@manishthakur5996
@manishthakur5996 2 жыл бұрын
@@melovemusic69 actually ported go too long with low frequencies... Watching movies with heavy subs distort other vocals.. Especially watching war scenes.. When it is music... Low frequencies add magic..
@new-kids-on-the-block
@new-kids-on-the-block Жыл бұрын
No port is better fore movie seald is more true 2 its sors
@rhiwderinraytube
@rhiwderinraytube 2 ай бұрын
I have a Bowers and Wilkins sealed type and it is superior my ported Pioneer one which itself is very good.
@janinapalmer8368
@janinapalmer8368 2 жыл бұрын
Go for a passive radiator... no chuffing and they are far tighter
@davidhunter9434
@davidhunter9434 2 жыл бұрын
Someone might have already asked this, but why doesn't the YU2 have a low-frequency roll-off switch, say at 80Hz? This would make them so much more usable with a subwoofer, like the Sub6 or Sub8. The YU2's image like crazy, especially with vocals, but when the volume goes up past 85db, the little mid/woofer driver just can't hang, and distortion, buzzing, and general sound stage incoherence becomes a problem. PLEASE update this wonderful little speaker with that roll-off switch. It would make the YU2 a sonic wonder with a sub, rather than a love them/hate them experience.
@jamesb9300
@jamesb9300 2 жыл бұрын
But, the depth of bass from a sealed sub is deeper, I love it
@dizzywow
@dizzywow 2 жыл бұрын
No, it's not.
@YogiTheBearMan
@YogiTheBearMan Жыл бұрын
I think you missed the whole video
@furkyyfurkyy
@furkyyfurkyy 2 жыл бұрын
Really easy to understand every details, thanks so much...
@OpenRoader
@OpenRoader 2 жыл бұрын
What about Subs with passive radiators?
@jshoover2199
@jshoover2199 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible video. Thanks for the laugh AND the information!!!
@mullholand
@mullholand 2 жыл бұрын
Such a well done video - so I hate to disagree with you. I think if you pay for a really good ported sub like a SVS PB anything (I have two - PB 4000) and for home theater - that deep bass is unmistakable! BUT... I have 5 15" sealed subs for outdoor use and I have to say - those sound EPIC! Powered by Crown amps.
@panzerfan
@panzerfan 2 жыл бұрын
You are not disagreeing with him. If you aren't restricted volume wise, there's no replacement for displacement. You need that displacement for ported subs. Personally though, I think having dual sealed is better than a large single ported sub ( ie 2x SB-3000 vs 1x PB-4000)
@TheSzyko
@TheSzyko 2 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend getting an external sub over a 3 or 4 way speaker like the Fluid Audio Image 2 or EVE Audio SC4070? I want to extend the low end in my studio.
@zodiacfml
@zodiacfml 2 жыл бұрын
correct. more than a decade ago, I DIY an enclosure for 12" sub for my car and chosen ported box. While I did get my childhood dream of having too powerful bass in a car, the sound quality is messy, sloppy, and at high SPLs the port noise is just annoying, killing the enjoyment. If I had chosen sealed box, the build would have simpler and faster and probably kept that system.
@juanosorno8153
@juanosorno8153 Жыл бұрын
Great explanation. I learned a lot with this video. Thank you
@philipsawyers719
@philipsawyers719 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍 I appreciate the difference now.
@forog1
@forog1 Жыл бұрын
I'd go passive radiator before sealed for in home use. It's the best of both worlds and in my opinion its best for games movies and low listening volumes. In vehicles Port all the way. I had a sealed sub and though it was accurate it didn't hit the way I'd like it to unless I had 2 and I'm more of a 1 sub guy so I want the best output from the one sub and save space. But bottom line if I couldn't do a ported sub id go passive radiator route next and skip sealed because it's basically the same thing in the end anyway just in all way to my better than the sealed in every way. Port has its own advantages over the radiator. I feel the radiator is the sealed box's 2nd form lol but of course the radiator its probable the most expensive route so there is that to take into account.
@vinaybellave6498
@vinaybellave6498 2 жыл бұрын
You guys rock!! Awesome subwoofer science!
@phreak1118
@phreak1118 2 жыл бұрын
They both have their place. Generally sealed sounds better with music and ported sounds better with movies.
@panzerfan
@panzerfan 2 жыл бұрын
@@pickleadaykeepsthedoctoraway It's a matter of good enclosure design and giving the said speaker adequate space to perform. Subs require even more care to place properly than the average ported bookshelf.
@VirtualGuth
@VirtualGuth 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer sealed loudspeakers in general, but aside from subwoofers they are very hard to come by these days.
@lort6022
@lort6022 2 жыл бұрын
Because they suck.
@smetljesm2276
@smetljesm2276 Жыл бұрын
Very nicely explained. Much appreciated 👍🏻
@calvint3419
@calvint3419 2 жыл бұрын
Very good demo. Make me want to try out. Maybe seal sub qith passive tranducer can be best of both worlds.
@rcary
@rcary Жыл бұрын
What about subs with a passive radiator?? Is that essentially a port with a flex covering?
@Okanoggin
@Okanoggin 2 жыл бұрын
Wicked video, thanks for explaining this in layman's terms
@andyamysarizonaadventures5450
@andyamysarizonaadventures5450 2 жыл бұрын
If you put an enclosure in a cars truck,only do ported! It really hits louder and deeper.
@AudioBoi1
@AudioBoi1 2 жыл бұрын
great explanation, thank you
@benboyer2776
@benboyer2776 2 жыл бұрын
I’d put a ported JTR Captivator 4000ULF against any sealed sub on the market. Hands down the best sub I’ve heard in person, whether it’s ported or sealed… you need a high quality driver to have a good ported sub
@kevenharvey9711
@kevenharvey9711 5 ай бұрын
Ported costs more to build, store and ship, and is bigger, so a fair comparison is hard to make. You could give the sealed sub a better amp or driver and it might end up giving better overall performance.
@dr.tissonjob5707
@dr.tissonjob5707 Жыл бұрын
I have a polk audio psw 10. At what range should the low pass filter should be kept to get a good balanced performance?
@KantoSolutions
@KantoSolutions Жыл бұрын
crossover point is dependent on your speakers. You want to set your crossover point at the frequency of which your speakers start to drop off in bass response. For full size bookshelf speakers, 80 Hz is a good starting point.
@dr.tissonjob5707
@dr.tissonjob5707 Жыл бұрын
@@KantoSolutions I want to know regarding the value of low pass filter at the back of the psw 10 subwoofer!
@kpadalldotablet1009
@kpadalldotablet1009 Жыл бұрын
What is the difference between the 2022 updated Sub 8 and the older version?
@KantoSolutions
@KantoSolutions Жыл бұрын
More power and vinyl finish on newer versions
@MultiRay67
@MultiRay67 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video,i have a question,can you close a port?Sorry for mine bad english,i am dutch.
@Calliber50
@Calliber50 2 жыл бұрын
Sealed for the drum kick and the ported for the rumble. Buy both for the bass wars.
@kaybhee6
@kaybhee6 Жыл бұрын
whats best way to seal,,, ported sub... what to put under its feet so house dont crash down from structural vibe
@TheManunderwater
@TheManunderwater 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant informative and clear video. Thanks
@bdanyluk
@bdanyluk Жыл бұрын
LARGE SEALED BOX FOR ME...take the size they recommend for ported and build it sealed.
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