Watch CLASH Between Russell Brand And Ricky Gervais Over Belief In God And Atheism

[@Alsatiagent-zu1rx]

"Social media does not cause narcissism, it rewards it." S. Vaknin.

[@tommycoopersmagiccarpetwea817]

Why does Gervais always have to speak with all his "worldly treasures" /little awards behind him?

[@WorksopGimp]

@@tommycoopersmagiccarpetwea817 To rub it in people's faces that haven't got any

[@tboorer]

@@tommycoopersmagiccarpetwea817pride.

[@bruteht4655]

Whats wrong with accolades?​@tommycoopersmagiccarpetwea817

[@SuperKeown]

@@tommycoopersmagiccarpetwea817 sure he's said about it and it's for taking the piss. not like he's a golden globes fan. why would that make you mad is more important.

[@gailfg2211]

I didn’t perceive them clashing at all, but discussing their different views and looking for feedback from each other. Very respectful. Thank you.

[@discopants68]

Are you suggesting someone on YT actually used a *CLICKBAIT* title?!?!!

[@CarolFremel-my4hs]

Both highly intelligent men

[@BlueMersey96]

Wouldn’t say this was a clash, just two people with different views having a respectful conversation, which is rare in today’s world

[@philipduttonlescorlett]

Yep, opposite ends of a spectrum yet truly in awe of one another. It is a beautiful thing! Personally, I think it comes down to one simple thing: education (reading) and respect. Both men are highly intelligent and respectful. It's just that one believes in a higher being, while the other does not. I, myself, am agnostic. I do not believe in a traditional god, but I am always open to seeing evidence proving the existence of a higher being. I agree with your main sentiment: respectful debate is a beautiful thing!

[@davidscott1052]

Yeah think it's called clickbait silly lurid headline hoping to draw people so they can watch an intellectual punch up 😅😅😅😅

[@andchat6241]

​@@davidscott1052 but it eventually becomes self defeating as I guess many viewers just bypass these headlined 'Clashes ' ....rather like the number of ' See deluded Woke individual get Owned' type headlines that are just edited clips from often a rational discussion.

[@davidscott1052]

@@andchat6241 yeah I guess it does become self defeating ...so the idiots will try to think up some other method of pulling us in....f.f. sake haven't these people got anything more constructive to do with their time !!!

[@comment15]

@@davidscott1052 They make money off KZbin so this is what they do with their time.

[@safficus1]

It's not so much a clash, more of a respectful grown up discussion

[@Cracktune]

right?

[@sarahhale-pearson533]

Refreshing, isn’t it?

[@kjaze]

I was going to write the very same thing. Mutual respect is a lovely thing to witness

[@sverdmester]

Got to do something to get those clicks

[@Retcon__]

Those types of titles don’t attract views

[@jjohnnyd]

Why the fuck did Ricky even give him the time of day? Just 1:19 in and I’m already exhausted from listening to Russell.

[@michaellear6904]

@jjohnnyd yeah, I think exhausting is the word that best describes the Brand effect. There's just too much of him. Besides, he's rather dull and gullible.

[@Graterstuuf]

Gervais facial reaction listening to Russel is a comedy in itself. The man’s the greatest.

[@billblunden1549]

Russell speaks...

[@Rebelconformist82]

Absolutely 😂😂

[@tezzo55]

Ricky's an alchy - and 'Atheist' is just another term for 'Alcoholic!

[@AlanGray-1953]

@@tezzo55 - definitely an echo on this thread. 😂🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿😂

[@tezzo55]

@@AlanGray-1953 👍😅Funny! Best!

[@Lilym661]

I have a problem with Russel brand, he seems to be showing off, using big words and lots of them. It is a distraction, a much used expression I know is ‘word salad’ it sums his style up beautifully. Ricky uses real simple words with powerful meaning. Very moving.

[@pavlovsdogman]

He's a grifter, pure and simple! He did not go from intellectual anarchist to conservative evangelical Christian overnight! He's a power hungry narcissist who loves the spotlight! He talks to his audience like a cult! 😂

[@nintynomreader]

There's a much used expression I'm aware of too. It's called 'echo chamber'. Try to get out of yours, wont you.

[@trailerparkingboys45]

I agree 👍

[@KrisCorby-iv8dg]

Yeah but you know, some people are able to finese that quality. In the hands of an expert, those qualities can be hysterically entertaining! It can't possibly be easy, but it can be very funny! ...

[@pavlovsdogman]

@@nintynomreader wow that's not an overused buzzword you hear from fans/devotees of online celebrities like Russell Brand, Joe Rogan, Tucker Carlson, Ben Shapiro and 20 other overrated hacks who feed off the ignorance of their male fanboys? Tell us about the Dunning Krueger effect while you're at it!

[@hollyberry4749]

I swear Russell brand just loves the sound of his own voice.

[@aethellstan]

i've realised he talks so much and uses such words so that people get brain dazzled and can't argue against him due to the fact they haven't got a clue what he's saying

[@whirlwhind666]

@@aethellstan like peterson

[@philipduttonlescorlett]

He is highly intelligent and has valuable insights to share, as does Ricky. I believe their points make sense, and in reality, most of us could benefit from being more concise in our conversations...

[@aethellstan]

@@philipduttonlescorlett i'm glad you got to the point eventually...

[@philipduttonlescorlett]

@@aethellstan I can never remember the definition of sarcasm and to be honest never got my head around it. I am slowly learning through excellent teachers like yourself!

[@honuman39]

The first 2 minutes of Brand tossing a word salad made my eyes roll back

[@stevelozevski8151]

Did they get back to their original spot?

[@mrskeltal3281]

​@@stevelozevski8151 the man talks a load of crap so it doesn't really matter how they land..

[@stevelozevski8151]

@@mrskeltal3281 which man?

[@sinapper1]

Yeah he uses seldom used words like Taxonomy without really understanding its meaning. At a stretch it just about fits into that sentence, but could have used a much more common word that would have made more sense in the sentence and that most people could easily understand.

[@officialWWM]

That’s what he always does…

[@thetrojanhorse.1320]

What clash? I thought it was a respectful conversation between two old friends. Where was the clash? This is our conversations should take place...

[@Talisman09]

They are not actually conversing, it is just seperate streams spliced together. How dumb are you people

[@MrCrowart]

It gathers attention hence why im watching this.

[@stronghold500]

Your 100% right. I hate click bait. It's deceitful. This is exactly what Russell means. Although I do admit, he uses mild click baits.

[@lolalouise9503]

@@stronghold500it’s Ricky’s Channel not Russell’s.

[@stronghold500]

@@lolalouise9503 yes. I know

[@richardgullick1867]

What Russell Brand is saying is perfectly valid. I think the fact he's flowery in his language makes a lot of people dismiss him and assume he's just trying to "seem" intelligent. I think he's just a poetic man with a love for the language. It's odd to take him in bad faith based in that.

[@astronautist4716]

Maybe some of the folk saying 'word salad' should actually look up some of those words.

[@AegonCallery-ty6vy]

Atheists can't help dismissing the idea of God by using different forms of logic to try and prove its non existence. But you cant prove a negative. Believers in a spiritual being try to prove the existence of 'god' by both logic AND personal experience. Conversion through personal crisis is a well trodden path ( Dylan, Brand, Peterson etc). They tend to become preachy and that irritates some, especially atheists. I consider myself agnostic. You cannot equate yourself out of the essential idea of 'God' vs non God. But what IS true is the sociological and personal binding factor spiritual people experience is a big positive that no atheist can counter because what do they have? A floating individual who has to talk himself into a togetherness that seems forced, much like the marxists. Tyranny lies waiting in the wings. One might point to the underlying forces behind the motivations of the UN, WHO, WEF, WORLDBANK, the EU. Not quite the hallmarks of spirituality are they? I think we see the end of an era.

[@andrewfisher3035]

His words have little meaning but are often used to convince the small minded of something, he does not provide proof or even a good argument for or of anything with what he says but does seem to get followers….. Ricky on the other hand talks plainly about what he thinks and provides good reasoning for it, he doesn’t even ask you to agree with him, that is refreshing and certainly different from the likes of Brand and religions.

[@Tom-dv6ei]

@@andrewfisher3035 HIs words have meaning, its just there are more commonly used words in the English language to say the same thing. The diff is merely how you, as an individual want to use the language.

[@andrewfisher3035]

@@Tom-dv6ei yes truth and honesty would be a good start

[@KiNiNjAzZ]

You are a wonderful human, Ricky.

[@tezzo55]

Ever heard of the animal rights activist who is addicted to a poison that helps kills 11.5 million animals every year? The activist is Ricky, the poison is alcohol and the animals are human!

[@AlanGray-1953]

I’m surprised Ricky didn’t fall asleep while Rascal was delivering his monologue! 😂🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿😂

[@tezzo55]

Yeah, alcohol does that to you!

[@tezzo55]

Ever heard of the animal rights activist who is addicted to a poison that helps kills 11.5 million animals every year? The activist is Ricky, the poison is alcohol and the animals are human!

[@AlanGray-1953]

@@tezzo55 - so does listening to Rascal. 😂🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿😂

[@tezzo55]

@@AlanGray-1953 Ever heard of the animal rights activist who is addicted to a poison that helps kills 11.5 million animals every year? The activist is Ricky, the poison is alcohol and the animals are human!

[@tezzo55]

@@AlanGray-1953 Ever heard of the animal rights activist who is hooked on a p*ison that helps cull 11.5 million animals every year? The activist is Ricky, the p*ison is alc*hol and the animals are human!

[@voltmusicstudios5260]

It always makes me laugh when wealthy people say live your life to the fullest.

[@ARRAM57]

To the fullest.....possible by YOU. This may not be comparable to the life you might lead if you were rich, famous, privileged .... Not always possible , circumstances may dictate otherwise but something worth striving for.

[@voltmusicstudios5260]

@anonymousone6075 Yeah we cant all be rich and famous, that means there would be no one left to collect the garbage. We are just the minions for the 1% lol Keep striving though lol.

[@ronaldmadican2393]

You do realise that this is two fading comedians saying that, don't you?

[@titanomachy2217]

Well what else can you do? Live your life to its emptiest?

[@voltmusicstudios5260]

​@@titanomachy2217some people dont have a choice, but you know that.. At least i hope you do. Live life to the emptiest nice lol

[@nobodyanderson4353]

A bit Brand verbal diarrhoeary. He could talk a glass eye to sleep.

[@tezzo55]

Ever heard of the animal rights activist who is addicted to a poison that helps kills 11.5 million animals every year? The activist is Ricky, the poison is alcohol and the animals are human!

[@ryanparker4996]

Its you thats the dullard

[@nicko2428]

Lol

[@AnaMaria-ld8ht]

Love Ricky so authentic❤

[@athelstan927]

It has come to my attention that those without children and often time (wealth) require more meaning!

[@quintama1007]

5:41 You can also say we're extremely unlucky to experience and witness all the suffering in the life. It can go both way.

[@peterpiper7216]

Most of my suffering is whenever I hear Brand speaking.

[@tommycoopersmagiccarpetwea817]

@peterpiper7216 😂 ~ harsh!

[@quintama1007]

@@peterpiper7216 Well, I can't understand what he said so I can't suffer I guess.

[@kaibutnor]

“We’re not special but we are lucky” well said ricky

[@larrylucid5502]

So then which side believes in impossible odds ? (also called miracles)

[@moesypittounikos]

Ramana Maharshi says that feeling of luck is pure being. The being survives the death of the body.

[@godbluffvdgg]

“When inventing a god, the most important thing is to claim it is invisible, inaudible, and imperceptible in every way. Otherwise people will become skeptical when it appears to no one, is silent and does nothing." -Lindsey Brown "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" - Epicurus

[@purpleprinc3]

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep, pain which cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart until in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us through the awful Grace of God" - Aeshcylus

[@Juss-Saiyan]

According to everyone in the comment section you are using too big of words for them.

[@godbluffvdgg]

@@Juss-Saiyan : )..Hate when that happens...

[@NeedleknightJ]

"when INVENTING a god" is important to recognize in that quote for everything else that follows, including the second quote you posted. The trash the church pedals is their own creation, and I agree with the skepticism/disgust towards that manipulated version of God and in that sense agree with both of those quotes because they both have to do with the controlling rulers of the church's version of God they want to distract people with. That "God" is a lie. But if you disregard the idea of morality and truth because you don't believe in the church's God you are only playing their game, and losing. An understanding of basic psychology and an open mind, one that accepts there is such a thing as truth (things do actually occur within the individual and without, that's all I mean by truth), is all that's necessary to start really understanding what it's all about. We have a left and right hemisphere of our mind. The left mind is the material world mind. The right mind is the spiritual mind. And by spiritual I mean it's intrinsically connected to the limbic system which governs our emotions, the foundation for the evolved right hemisphere's responsibilities- creativity, imagination, abstract thought, and empathy, "the spirit in which we do things". The spiritual realm is simply the unseen realm. It's not in another place, we are both in the material and spiritual realm at the same time all the time. God is not a man on a cloud that controls our Fates and punishes us or rewards us according to our choices. There are a set of natural laws in place that we can discover and we will be rewarded by abiding by them or punished due to our willing choice to ignore them. They are here to help us grow. The laws are based in our innate understanding of right and wrong. This works on an individual and an aggregate level. The reason why bad things happen to good people is because it takes all of us unifying in a moral foundation to win the war against evil. A good person will have a good life, but that won't prevent them from being murdered or raped or stolen from by people who aren't good, because as long as we refuse to unify and find the root of corruption together, & we are only concerned with our own personal well-being, we are allowing evil to continue so there will be casualties. Satanic thought is only caring about yourself and that is what's been pedaled by the evil that doesn't want you to unite with your brothers and sisters. There's a lot more to this but if you really want to understand how nature works and what God really is, start studying the occult.. the real occult- the wisdom of the ancients, not witchcraft and mysticism. God is truth, love, beauty, and everything that exists when fear and all that spawns from fear is absent.

[@reddyreddy2618]

"Damned if you do, damned if you don't" Bart Simpson

[@Els4000]

Over a minute and a half in and Brand still hasn’t finished his first ridiculously long winded question! I’m surprised Gervais didn’t say “FFS! Spit it out!”. I couldn’t be arsed listening any longer.

[@daviddeida]

Thanks for sharing,my life has been so enriched.

[@tommycoopersmagiccarpetwea817]

The Rickster should've pretended to fall asleep.

[@Els4000]

@@daviddeida Apologies. I didn’t realise enriching your life was my job, or indeed the aim of us commenting here. But now I know the rules, and that you exist, I’ll try to live up to the enrichment standards of your own nourishing and high value reply.

[@daviddeida]

@@Els4000 Apology accepted.No one wants to hear a whiny potty mouth

[@daviddeida]

@@Els4000 Apology accepted.I understand you in all likelihood have only a subjective view on how to live and treat people

[@magnetic_zero]

I agree with so much of what Ricky says, not just in this video, but in general. When he says things like we aren't special but we are lucky, it's so true. If more people had his view on life, it would be a much better place. Too many people think they are so important but they aren't, none of us are. We are so insufficient in the grand scheme of things, it's a joke really, the ultimate humbler 😄. Those that realize that, accept and embrace it are better off for it, and better people in general I think

[@tezzo55]

Ever heard of the animal rights activist who is addicted to a poison that helps kills 11.5 million animals every year? The activist is Ricky, the poison is alcohol and the animals are human!

[@archaichobo6969]

Brand just rambles incoherently, with all kinds of pseudo spiritual crap. He is guilty of many logical fallacies.

[@Kustomkaraoke-ht4xl]

Brand throws around a mass of words and phrases but it's really way more simple than that, Ricky is right when he says 13 billion years of nothing 70-100 years of life then a return to nothing, we accept that state with any other creature on this planet but not ourselves. Just because our brains have evolved beyond fight or flight and we can over think the meaning of life, it doesn't mean we should.

[@Mr.Goodkat]

Lot's of us don't accept it about other creatures, besides you can't know Ricky is right and there is plenty of reasons to believe in an afterlife.

[@DeliMeatTree]

​@Mr.Goodkat so there was a before life?

[@pete1942]

@@Mr.GoodkatThe only reason to believe in an afterlife is that you want there to be one. There’s no evidence for an afterlife and so nothing to indicate that one exists.

[@tezzo55]

Ever heard of the animal rights activist who is addicted to a poison that helps kills 11.5 million animals every year? The activist is Ricky, the poison is alcohol and the animals are human!

[@tezzo55]

@@DeliMeatTree Not for you, obviously!

[@davelister2961]

The contrast between Gervais's clarity and Brand's verbose obscurantism is stark, and telling.

[@thecorruptversion]

And the nerve of Brand to speak about narcissism, when the mf is full of himself. He's constatly trying to place himself as some kind of saviour.

[@AlanGray-1953]

I’ve seen both of these at work as comedians, needless to say Ricky’s show was far superior to Rascals and that was before he turned to the “ dark side “. I wouldn’t bother to spend my money on seeing Rascal again………………as for Ricky, I’ve already been to see him again and he was absolutely brilliant, again. Rascal is just a grifter chasing the dollar in America where he has over 6 million subscribers to his channel, specifically Conspiracy Theorists and Trumps “ uneducated “ base. 😂🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿😂

[@yoyoyoyo-qv5hu]

I like both these two but I think I give Russell the edge on this, it's way too narrow and seems like a dead end to limit this life to just empirical evidence.

[@Generalindifference]

​@4th_Lensman_of_the_apocalypse 😂😂😂 my thoughts exactly, lack of self awareness or parody,hopefully the latter 😂

[@Cracktune]

@4th_Lensman_of_the_apocalypse lol

[@frankengstfeld5934]

Listen when you listen and talk when you talk. If you try to do both at the same time, nonsense usually comes out. There was no clash. It was a friendly and deep conversation between intelligent beings who listen when they listen and talk when they talk.

[@DH-kt8st]

Russel Brand started to think he is an intellectual, then it went wrong.

[@mjh5437]

He grew up and realised being a Lefty is for infantile mugs and you didn`t.

[@shabbos-goy9407]

Bless him. Ricky created Brent and that marks him as a fkn genius.

[@stillben]

Big pharma and MSM brought him down coz he a threat to NWO

[@friendlyneighborhoodhuman]

Where did he go wrong?.

[@peterpiper7216]

Now had he considered himself a Bell End, then he'd have been spot on ....

[@nomore6939]

Russell Brand seems to have taken too many drugs too young, he loves a word salad

[@chrissedaka8141]

Do you agree or disagree with what was said, though?

[@davelister2961]

​@@chrissedaka8141It's hard to follow his point when his sentence construction is so florid. To be honest with you, I don't think Brand knows what his point is half the time.

[@FodrMichalych]

He loves Pootin, that's a rad flag of stupidity.

[@plotstoraisethedead]

@@davelister2961 Florid? You've lost me.

[@russell2910]

Maybe, I think he's trying to play a cool hipster version of Jordan Peterson.

[@seamusheaney123]

I am genuinely surprised to hear Gervais talking so thoughtfully and respectfully on this topic . I haven't really liked anything he's done since The Office and thought he was a bit spiteful and shallow. I have to say this has made me start to revaluate that.. I dont share his atheism, but He made some very thoughtful, and thought provoking, comments. This is among the best musings from Russell yet. Good post. Thanks. .

[@Vanf00]

He's amazing. A deep thinker, respectful debater, phenomenal actor, writer, advocate, decades long partner to his girlfriend Jane. Check out Derek and Afterlife or even some of his speaking events. You'll become a lifelong fan. The man is inspirational. PS: Ricky doesn't care of someone is religious. That's their right. He just believes that he has a right to question religion. Unfortunately not everyone agrees with that. He gets a lot of hate just for being "godless" even though his own moral compass is likely closer to the teachings of Jesus than most religious zealots. Have a wonderful day!

[@seamusheaney123]

@@Vanf00 Thanks for this. He's clearly talented. But I must respectfully disagree about him being a phenomenal actor. Day Lewis, Oldman, Olivier, Alec Guinness, Hopkins, Fiennes et al. These really are great actors. Does Gervais really come anywhere near them?. His comedy performance in The Office was very funny,, but ... And I have seen him be downright spiteful and dismissive of all people of Faith as being stupid bigots. That can be the case with certain "religious ' people, and their ignorance deserves to be challenged. But there are many real intellectual geniuses who also are people of faith. And another atheist comedian, Franky Boyle, memorably said : "I finally knew that there was no God when they commissioned a second series of "Derek". 😉 Anyway, thanks for your post. And as I say, maybe Gervais is becoming a bit more considered and thoughtful these days about this topic. I wish him , and you, all the best.

[@Vanf00]

@@seamusheaney123 We can certainly agree to disagree. I wish you a wonderful day as well! Cheers:)

[@seamusheaney123]

@@Vanf00 You too. All the best.

[@13111y]

Your clickbait title ensures I won't be returning to this channel in a hurry

[@kane4013]

Clickbait titles work because they get lots of comments telling them it was a clickbait title. Thus their video gets promoted up the algorithm.

[@TheSonnycheema]

What’s clickbait ?

[@TheSonnycheema]

As in where

[@blackfeatherstill348]

You will be sorely missed.

[@Radiant_Silverback]

Doesn't really matter, it worked. You conmented.

[@tboorer]

Brand goes on and on and on and on….most intelligent people can abridge what they want to say to get their point over succinctly ….he’s not in that category 🤷‍♂️

[@tezzo55]

@@tboorer In that case, neither are you in "that category" if you actually think Mr Brand unintelligent.

[@rosethorns1893]

He’s intelligent enough to understand that there are dullards like myself that need further explanation

[@dahveed72]

Succinct he is not. Ricky is simply in another league.

[@tezzo55]

@@dahveed72 Yeah, but why do lefties, vegans and animal libb-ers, like our Ricky here (wonderful though he is) always drink so much? From what are they all running and why into the maelstrom of delusion caused by such a fatal poison?

[@jamesburmester8861]

The expression on Ricky’s face is priceless. He’s like what exactly is this guy trying to say in so many words

[@Rol-fy3my]

Russell could explain the same thing using a fraction of the words he uses and hold your attention more without drifting off..

[@dannylaing5585]

No he cant

[@SIGSEGV1337]

He is painting a picture, yes he could say it simply but it wouldn't have the same effect

[@upwardspiral7441]

ADD

[@davedevil83]

Russell is a great example of how 12 step programs, although helpful for their intended cause, are actually just a tool to bring people to religion. Ricky makes infinitely more sense.

[@jasonbachelor604]

12 step cults are rarely helpful, in amy way

[@dianedevery2662]

Bollocks. I have been a member of a 12 step program for over 30 years, and was never 'indoctrinated ' into religion. AA saved my life.

[@jasonbachelor604]

@@dianedevery2662 30 years and still creepily hanging around a church basement? AA and its affiliate groups are secret societies hiding many evils

[@matthewhayes3969]

12 step programmes are just that: a program. They're helpful for many people in replacing a destructive addiction with a less destructive one. Adhering to a program religiously is just pursuing another addiction. And certain people are the new preachers.

[@slickfandango7915]

@@dianedevery2662 are you a Christian though?

[@westonlong]

Delicious, hearing Ricky take Russell to the ground with simple digestible logic

[@Karlonstark]

He didn’t tho lol

[@MrJ2theC]

@@KarlonstarkHe did. Unless you're into spiritual and religious bullshit?

[@Filmbuf-g2k]

Love Rickys attitude to life....and simplicity in his explaining....Russell ....not for me im afraid but he does connect with others....and if he helps them fair play...

[@sspbrazil]

Russell Brand just traded a few addictions for another, from drugs and sex to religion.

[@melisakhemthong6788]

We aren't special, but we are lucky. Ugh, that hit hard 👌🤙❤

[@jamesormiston263]

Made a career out of talking about being a junky 25 years ago. Grifter

[@davidlamb7524]

I think he was faking that too. He seems fairly ignorant about most drugs.

[@zapkvr]

Junkie

[@whitehead1187]

He's funny. If you don't like him. Don't watch

[@goldonthemixer554]

The title of this video is ironically a great example of Ricky & Russell's critique of social media

[@kirrausanov]

My late godmother - a devoted Catholic before the war, who survived KL Auschwitz erupted in rage when our Family-friend priest rationalized the existence of evil with religious dogma about "free will". I will never forget her words: "What free will could a person pushed inside a gas chamber could exercise in comparison to a SS man guard (very often a practicing Catholic or Protestant), who locked a hermetic door and administered Zyklon B." She never put her foot inside the church after being liberated by the "godless" Soviet soldiers in January 1945 .

[@dannybruns2196]

Russel brand is just words , absolutely no substance .... Ricky Gervais is interesting and intelligent

[@tommycoopersmagiccarpetwea817]

And in love with all his awards.😄

[@julieprince5538]

I really enjoy listening to different points of view! It helps me expand my mind and break free from my set beliefs. Thank you Russell and Ricky ☮️

[@tezzo55]

Good person! Thanks!

[@joseribeiro9564]

Just hilarious to see Russel rambling about narcicism when he is chief officer of YT narcisist department

[@FreeBrunoPowroznik]

As intelligent as he is, Russell Brand turns into a baby brained word salading Jordan Peterson when talking about religion. Almost as if he's got no real arguments.

[@JayDeeChannel]

What does BALR mean?

[@sunflower67942]

Ball Hairs

[@stevenparry2931]

I experienced something the day my mother died that has left me in no doubt there is something after death absolutely no doubt and it’s change my outlook on life for the better

[@sunflower67942]

I also experienced something the morning after my husband for 50 years passed away, it made me feel sooo good.

[@sarahhale-pearson533]

Truly appreciate and respect both men, but have to agree with Gervais.

[@hayleywarden6315]

Two comedians talk. One a ridiculous fool and the other an absolute comedic genius.

[@b14ksy17]

Yeah, Ricky is such a twat.

[@billyjjackson]

Good chat, nice to hear.

[@SmallAndSoft]

gods the best con ever pulled

[@chrissedaka8141]

Nope. The Marxist sleight-of-hand that would have the personal Judeo-Christian God replaced by the State is a far more pernicioius con.

[@tommycoopersmagiccarpetwea817]

Not as big as the one Satan pulled, by convincing us he doesn't exist.

[@sgavin111]

This isn’t a clash. This is two people who care about these questions sharing their views respectfully. Whatever you feel about them, the world could use more discussion like this.

[@tamarahoneyman2295]

Russell makes no sense....Ricky does. If you need to practice religion to be a kind human, you really never were.

[@majose7787]

That's the point. At least for Christianity, we admit we're moral screw ups and need God's forgiveness hence why Christ came to live and die for our sins.

[@udai025]

​@@majose7787Did he die for the sins of every human being who came after him? If that's true then wasn't being evil and sinful is what Christ's dad wanted for the humans to be? If that's true then why even pretend to punish others for the stupid mistakes they are bound to make no matter what? If that's not true then did Christ die in vain if humans were to stop sinning?

[@ytstraightface]

Russell….i’m getting the word “twat”. I nearly shit myself with laughter when Brand starts talking about Narcissism. Hello 🤣

[@WalterSobchak1000]

Brand is the ultimate bullshitter and narcisisst. Ricky's achieved far far more but has always remained pretty much grounded

[@tezzo55]

Holy cheeses, give me strength! Ever heard of the animal rights activist who is addicted to a poison that helps kills 11.5 million animals every year? The activist is Ricky, the poison is alcohol and the animals are human!

[@tommycoopersmagiccarpetwea817]

As he speaks sat in front of all his awards for us all to see.👍

[@robertgaunt59]

Ricky gervais is outspoken ..and brilliant ..the one the only ..and he is popular ..finally someone that is out there talking about the ideas a lot of people are thinking about ..keep going man

[@StannisHarlock]

When a rich man says he loves Jesus, I go, "You're an atheist, ain't you? You don't believe he"s coming back. If you did, you'd sell your possessions and give the money to the poor, like he said to. Give your money to the poor, rich man. Jesus said, 'Do *NOT* store up treasure on earth. Store up treasure in heaven, because where your treasure is your heart will be also'". Yes, folks. Russell Brand may be a Christian, but let's face it. Christians love their money, and Jesus never said his people would be called that.

[@mbfrommb3699]

Umm. Nope. Jesus said this to 1 man and the man rejected it. It’s not a rule for life. Being a Christian has nothing to do with poverty unless it takes the place of God, unless you’d do anything to acquire it. Youre just embellishing one encounter that applied to 1 individual. Hope this clears up the context.

[@StannisHarlock]

@@mbfrommb3699 *Matthew 6:19-21* 19 “Do *_not_* store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. 20 But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21 *For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.* Jesus spoke about what to do with wealth quite frequently in the bible, and he was not just speaking to one man in that other instance. That guy rejected Jesus because he was very rich. Jesus turned to those around him and said, "it will be easier to pull a camel through the eye of a needle than it will be for *a rich man* to enter the kingdom." He didn't say that it easier for *that that rich* man to pull a camel through a needle. I don't know what people have been filling your head with, but he very rarely addressed specific people in such a way as to make rules for one guy that exclude everyone else. If he had done things that way, it would mean the bible isn't actually applicable to you or me or anyone else, because he was only speaking specific people back then. Just like with the Israelites who wandered for 40 years in the wilderness. They had to rely on God to provide them with food, and they were not allowed to take more than what enough for them for one day. Jesus expected his people to rely on God to clothe them and feed them the same way. He told them to share their wealth with the poor. If you're following his example, you won't be materially wealthy just like he was not materially wealthy. Jesus said that the father takes care of the smallest sparrow. Don't worry about tomorrow, because the ones putting faith in him are worth more than a sparrow. Lastly, God made Solomon the wisest and wealthiest man whoever lived, and in all his wisdom, Solomon turned to idolatry, because you can't serve two masters. You can't serve god and riches, and Solomon loved the power his wealth afforded him. So, if the wisest man who ever lived can't overcome the love of money, what chances do people who are not gifted with wisdom from God have to succeed where Solomon failed?

[@StannisHarlock]

@@mbfrommb3699 Jesus did not say it to that guy at all. That guy had left when said that it would be easier to do something impossible than it would be for *a rich man* to get into heaven. Jesus commanded his people not to store up wealth on earth. He told them to store treasures in heaven because where your treasure is you heart will be also, and we all know what the bible says about the love of money.

[@mbfrommb3699]

@@StannisHarlock Yes Jesus did say "He told them to store treasures in heaven because where your treasure is you heart will be also,..." But money is a tool. The Bible is not against money and neither was Jesus. There were a lot of rich people in the Bible but also in Matthew 25 Jesus talks about talents which was money and we can see this at the end. One person got 10 talents and doubled it, the next got 5 and doubled it, but one person was given 1 and buried it. 24 “Then he who had received the one talent came and said, ‘Lord, I knew you to be a hard man, reaping where you have not sown, and gathering where you have not scattered seed. 25 And I was afraid, and went and hid your talent in the ground. Look, there you have what is yours.’ 26 “But his lord answered and said to him, ‘You wicked and lazy servant, you knew that I reap where I have not sown, and gather where I have not scattered seed. 27 So you ought to have deposited my money with the bankers, and at my coming, I would have received back my own with interest. So Jesus is not against money or investing money. He was cautioning against greed and making money your god. Please don't try to make a point that's not there. financial wisdom is a biblical concept. And yes we are warned "The LOVE of money is the root of all evil." 1 Timothy 6:10 I hope this helps.

[@StannisHarlock]

@@mbfrommb3699 the talents in that parable were figurative. But the following scripture is not figurative ... *Luke 6:20-23* Blessed are the poor because the kingdom belongs to them. (Paraphrased) Do you see the difference between a figurative point, that uses elements in the real world to say something entirely different than what the elements in the story actually point to, and a straight forward statement of fact? Jesus said that he used illustrations so that those who were not meant to understand the sacred secrets of the kingdom would not understand and thus would not repent and not be saved. The parables are not literal language, but if you still believe being Christian has nothing to do with the poor, I encourage you to look at *Matthew 25:34-46* I won't quote it here because everytime I quote a long passage, my comment seems to get deleted. Money is a tool, just like manna was a tool for the Israelites in the wilderness, and god told them not to collect more than they would need for one day. Those who ignored that command found themselves physically unable to collect a wealth of manna for more than one day. In the bible Jesus implies over and over again, the rich are not putting faith in God to provide for them. They are usurping his job. Plenty of bible characters were rich. Most of them were kings, and god was against giving kings to Israel, and he made sure that Israel was punished for demanding that a man stand in his place. He said he was their king, but the human kings would take their daughters and their wealth. Solomon had 1000 wives and hundreds of concubines. He also turned to idolatry. So he's not really a good example for Christians to follow. King David was a murderer, because he didn't control his lust for another man's wife. David's new born child paid for David's crime with it's life. God killed it. So he's not a good example for Christians to follow. Abraham is not an example Christians can follow either. He had slaves and had a kid by one of them while he was married to Sarah. I don't think the new testament supports that sort of thing for Christians. Job ended up wealthy with two wives. The new testament doesn't support that for Christians either.

Brand is so irritating, to many words without substance. However Ricky nails it.

[@dogisgood1464]

Thats entirely why I stopped watching him and unsubbed. Combine that carnival barker pace of speech with new age spiritualism and I am like, hang on. Brand is not a political commentator or youtuber. Pretty sure he is trying to be some new kind of cult leader.

[@HeRedeemsUs]

I'm the opposite. Love the way Brand expresses himself. Vive la difference ❤

[@cleftturnip7774]

Both can be annoying to be fair.

[@cleftturnip7774]

They both can be annoying to be fair

[@lloydnorval1989]

​@@cleftturnip7774 such is being human

[@gunray3]

It’s Russel Brand having a conversation with himself….again!

[@liamnevilleviolist1809]

Such a twat who thinks he's God reincarnate. Insufferable...

[@tezzo55]

Ricky's an alchy - and 'Atheist' is just another term for 'Alcoholic!

[@greggbennett7011]

@@tezzo55 What an absolutely moronic statement.

[@Talisman09]

@@tezzo55 Wow, so proud of that one you wrote it twice eh? I can't believe I actually thought you meant alchemist double meaning

[@tezzo55]

@@Talisman09 You another alchy then, one who transmutes clarity into inebriation? AMAZING! ...

[@davidoreilly3213]

When Brand speaks, I imagine myself standing next to him, fixing eye contact, saying nothing, and then when he's finished, saying nothing and walking away calmly.

[@Jayslo1357]

I'm a big Russell brand fan, but his vocabulary leaves me for dust sometimes and whilst I respect his intellect, I can't help but wonder if the point he is making is as solid as the explosion of words he's generating in the process

[@geraldcoffey3303]

Love both these guys.Afterlife is unbelievably brilliant

[@mjja00]

What evidence do you have for an 'afterlife'?

[@mjja00]

You are half right the 'afterlife' is unbelievable.

[@Vanf00]

I've not watched the third season of Afterlife. I lost my daughter in between the three and just can't yet. But I agree. This was one of Ricky's most brilliant piece of writing and acting. Aside from Derek of course. I just love the man. He's incredible.

[@BelfastManUtdTherapy]

As a 40 year old former catholic, I realised we are OF this rock. A loving creator would'nt have chucked us on a planet where we need to build protection against the various natural environments (houses/), animals alive now have adapted to their environment, so they havn't died out yet. We happened to have a bigger brain and evolved language, which meant communication, ideas, thoughts etc. We as a species have never been placed in a loving perfect environment. We had to create fires so we dont freeze to death. we need oxygen, or we suffocate or drown. we need water but it can drown us. GODS ARE BRONZE AGE PRE-SCIENCE.

[@modernchampionmusic81]

Who says he abandoned us here. .this is the dream /nightmare then we wake up..

[@nicneam]

And sleep?​@@modernchampionmusic81

[@dennisbailey6067]

​@@modernchampionmusic81Good luck with that.Be ready to be disappointed.

[@madMARTYNmarsh1981]

Not oy can we drown it water, if you drink k too much of it too quickly it can poison us. We can die from drinking too much water.

[@Crudecraig]

As a 41 year old Christian, you obviously haven’t read the Bible as your question is answered in the first book.

[@adamsmith-bq8ku]

I'm still struggling to grasp what point Brand was attempting to make. Certainly nothing he said would cause me to change my view.

[@HighlanderOne]

I love both points of view and are happy with either. Big up non dualism

[@tezzo55]

Good man!

[@BazzyPredPop]

I really enjoyed this ❤ it’s two people that I’ve lost quite a bit of regard for over the last few years I’ve made a really really interesting and watchable debate

[@nelljamieson38]

Russell Brand is exhausting. I pity anyone who has to sit next to him on a long flight. A Dutch Barn or three for Ricky after this conversation is justified.....

[@ryanparker4996]

Nah youre just not on his level I could personally talk his ear off in much the same way. Stream of conciousness requires YOU getting out of the way of it

[@jacqui9176]

@@ryanparker4996 He's long winded and loves the sound of his own voice.

[@DJOverpar]

Did you delete the bit where they Clash?

[@paulmilligan2657]

"Religion is for people that fear hell Spirituality is for people that have already been there" (David Bowie...i think) God is Nowhere God is Now Here 🔥 Energy/Motion is Everything

[@Burtlocker]

Spirituality is for people who want to believe but don't feel mainstream religion is for them. So they just do whatever pops in their heads, without any connection to real life at all. I've never met a so called spiritual person with more then half a braincell.

[@ZeuzBluez]

Nah it s said first by Blues legend Johnnie lee hooker

[@AnthonyDark]

George Michael

[@LewieLeway]

Religion is for those that can’t figure things out for themselves.

[@moodymac]

​@@LewieLewayWhat things?

[@Gray-zi5bp]

When I was 6 I nearly died.. some crazy things happened so I have spent the last 40 years almost researching it so I know for a fact we live on forever..

[@0nFoot]

LOL. Nearly dying isn't dying. You don't know sh1t

[@pavlovsdogman]

How deep of Russell to imply atheism and science is the new narcissism? 😂 No one knows more about narcissism that Narcissus himself! 🫵🧏

[@chrissedaka8141]

Some of the biggest names in science were men of faith. Science and religion are not mutually exclusive, and atheism certainly doesn't have the monopoly on science. 'The Science™', maybe, but not *actual* science.

[@tezzo55]

Ever heard of the animal rights activist who is addicted to a poison that helps kills 11.5 million animals every year? The activist is Ricky, the poison is alcohol and the animals are human!

[@JamieFurlong]

Indeed. And how is atheism narcissistic anyway? Surely it's the opposite, the belief that there is no God to return to after we die because we are not that important.

[@pavlovsdogman]

@@JamieFurlong Russell is one of the most narcissistic humans I've watched operate! Since he was a 20 yo to now he's been a maniacal self promoter with questionable talent so it hardly surprising he's trying the born again Christian grift now? 🙄 Christian conservative particularly the American type despise atheists and agnostics but they can't say it out loud so they use code like calling it a narcissistic life or there's Jordan Peterson (Russell Brand's mentor) and other Christians who have started saying we are satanic and on the devils side? 🤔 They know fine well we don't believe in the devil! It's a pathetic little stab at us from the supposedly morally superior Christian movement! 😂 Imagine being dumb enough to believe in Satan but not god or heaven? 🤷 It would be moronic?

[@spinav8r]

I can feel Russel Brand's love... the love of the sound of his own voice.

[@kevinkavanagh1490]

Russel is the only person I know you uses a thousand words to say absolutely nothing

[@chrisdyer6370]

Embracing religious conversion during a moment of despair is exactly the worst moment to explore religion. Transferring personal responsibility onto a mythical super-being isn't a cure for personal demons. It's merely transference through embracing a state of delusion.

[@davidsandall]

You believe demons are real but God is mythical? All you people pick and choose from the Bible which the Bible teaches that will happen. You people make your own god to feel better about your choices.

[@chrisdyer6370]

@@davidsandall I don't believe demon's are real. Personal 'demons' are things like depression, a sense of inadequacy, panic attacks. They aren't little red men with pointy tails. You really aren't very bright are you.

[@supergrowler521]

Russell Brand just presenting Follow the Lady is the form of verbose word salad. How many Thesauri does he need?

[@w8m4n]

Brand is OK, he just talks like Jordan Peterson a fair bit

[@shecklesmack9563]

Exactly, he's like Jordan Peterson with like 25% mystical jargon

[@KrisCorby-iv8dg]

Oooooh!! Ouch! What did JBP ever do to you bro!..😆

[@w8m4n]

@@KrisCorby-iv8dg 🤣 I know, believe it or not, I like Peterson too. He speaks a LOT without saying a thing, but sometimes he DOES say a thing, and it sticks with you.

[@DeliMeatTree]

Peterson is far worse than brand. Peterson talks absolute shit.

[@DeliMeatTree]

​@w8m4n your username speaks volumes.

[@brookswalker6859]

Love both of these minds. Good conversation

[@magswilson2039]

I wonder if Russell Brand sits with a thesaurus and picks out what words and phrases could I insert into a conversation. My two daughters really like Brand but I find him really irritating. I like the straightforward way Ricky Gervais explains his stance.

[@karenglenn6707]

Myself and my 33 yr old son (we’re Aussies) think he’s a twat. Love Ricky Gervais, especially his love and respect for animals. He’s our sort of person, not Brand.

[@purpleprinc3]

He comes from a posh background, sometimes it's orite lil funny but sometimes it's a bit much, I can't be arsed to work my brain that hard. 😅

[@paulfenton7776]

I intensely dislike his new right wing political viewpoint. I can't be hanging about with a bunch of Trump supporters.

[@Juss-Saiyan]

​@@paulfenton7776 Cool, have fun hanging out with the language police that don't know the difference between a man and a woman 😂

[@Nathanaelelliott]

He's not on the right dude he is doing what should be done and convincing people the only way we can make positive change is to unite left and right then we can do anything. All Brand has done is distance himself from this bs battle between two supposed sides and instead of instantly attacking people for totally normal views he respects their damn opinions as human beings. People like you who openly say shit like you can't be around trump supporters are so twisted and manipulated it's insane. The idea people are even proud and feel cool openly stating such intolerance to ideas is unbelievable. And I guarantee you don't have any idea about what those people you hate think and why. You assume a long list of bs and then assume their intentions which will be the worst intentions you decide. You are literally doing the thing you think others are doing it just happens to be that you are wrong on both.

[@frankcarr6920]

Nice listening to your existential theories... I think that all we have is the present moment... That's where is (all) at... one breath at a time... You're either conscious and loving every moment or inconscious and thinking too much which robs you of that divine moment.... Love you guys!

[@BLSFL_HAZE]

The truth of the matter is somewhere in between, in a "placeless place" that words and concepts can't touch.

[@nick31111111]

The most rational conclusion about life after death is to just say that you don't know. To say its the end of you is just as assumptive as to say you'll live forever.

[@jakhaughton1800]

Ricky has the intelligence to unravel Brand’s plethora of very long isms that are used by halfwits who are trying to impress. Ricky’s plain English is all that’s needed.

[@damiens6465]

Wasnt a Clash. Was a concise, friendly, interesting discussion. Bollocks to who did the title for that negative spin on it. These two respect each other.

[@nigelcarren]

Hasn't Russel Brand just moved from his old religion to Christianity? Personally I COMPLETELY disagree with the word atheism. Why is there even a word for people who don't believe in something? The way I see it is, there are those that are religious, and then there are the normal people. The sooner the religious recognize this is ALL there is, the sooner this world will be a better place. But I do type this as a very spiritual person, it's just that I don't hold a man with a beard responsible. Almost Everything is an accident... Embrace the mayhem my friends. The meaning is YOUR creative output... What will you leave behind to prove you were here... A child or a symphony? But do leave a mark... Don't just leave a stain! Best wishes from an Englishman making armour and music in a French forest. ⚒️ ❤️🎵

[@Vanf00]

Ricky says this about atheism. Why is it even a word?

[@phillipwallace7211]

A good friend of mine (T) who considered himself an atheist had a conversation with a friend of his who was terminally ill. His friend asked him 'what do you think happens when you die?' He replied 'I think it's just like falling into a peaceful sleep'...'what about people like Hitler?' his friend asked...'well I think he might fall into a restless sleep'. I said to T 'we only know we have had a peaceful sleep when we awaken from it and to suggest that Hitler might have a restless sleep implies that there is some kind of divine justice'. Although not my intention T, like myself feels he might be Agnostic.

[@kerry1754]

Why does Brand have to go on like this, he cant put an argument over because its all words for the sake of being clever, I cant follow him, Oh no I have had enough of him, its all just bullshit, thank God for Gervais being there, I really cant stand Brand

[@abadazadytgaming7200]

Hes not arguing! They are both having a mutual conversation.

[@tezzo55]

Ever heard of the animal rights activist who is addicted to a poison that helps kills 11.5 million animals every year? The activist is Ricky, the poison is alcohol and the animals are human!

[@jamesburmester8861]

The reference to praying and private has to do with not showing off your spirituality in pride, doesn’t refer to praying by yourself in the closet and not praying in a congregation. That’s something that Ricky missed and many atheist do. It has to do with attitude.

[@sunmoonplanets2978]

It's because Gervais was using it as a Reddit tier gotcha. He doesn't know what he's talking about. Jesus was wrong when he showed the disciples how to say the Lord's Prayer since he did it aloud.

[@SB-sj4uz]

I stopped watching Brand when he found god. Cant take him seriously anymore

[@onlyonewhyphy]

That was the line? That's a shame.

[@KrisCorby-iv8dg]

Won't it be interesting to see how long he stays attached to it! Religion of any kind, the easy out, & he could do so much better! But ok...he's tired..🤷🏻‍♀️ is anyone surprised that he became worn out before his time! 💁🏻‍♀️

[@tezzo55]

Ever heard of the animal rights activist who is addicted to a poison that helps kills 11.5 million animals every year? The activist is Ricky, the poison is alcohol and the animals are human!

[@watermelonman3000]

The endless loop created when two self-regarding celebs talk AT one another, about themselves.

[@jimb9063]

Not sure why people think that "oneness with nature" needs to dwell exclusively in the realm of the quasi religious feelings brigade, with vague linguistic deepities that sound meaningful at first but don't make any sense when you think about it. All living things are related. You don't need to hallucinate or hyperventilate, we've got biology.

[@tezzo55]

Ever heard of the animal rights activist who is addicted to a poison that helps kills 11.5 million animals every year? The activist is Ricky, the poison is alcohol and the animals are human!

[@inforuimteschip5970]

I agree, But you are kindof saying they are right here aren't you. You are saying there is some sort of magic there, You just choose to call it biology. And that is a great word for it. Also I agree religions are the worst at it, saying the devine spirit of god is somehow only available for the "believers" whatever that means to them. "New age" people also have a certain idea of having a greater understanding of "the source". But I thing Ricky says it well here; Love, wine, dogs, learning, and its beautiful, fucking beautiful. Whatever is going on, the experience of it is magical (at times) and lives in all of in the same way.

[@jimb9063]

@@inforuimteschip5970 "You are saying there is some sort of magic there, you just choose to call it biology". No! I'm saying you don't need magic to get there, you can simply use the evidence provided by biology and not use magic/spirituality/faith/feelings at all.

[@tonedowne]

@@inforuimteschip5970 We are part of an ecosystem, like blood is part of our body. We are directly connected to all other biology on this planet, because this planet is alive.

[@inforuimteschip5970]

@@jimb9063 So you are saying the big bang culminating in the formation of you by having particals randomly crashing into each other orchestrated by the laws of nature, which are tuned perfectly for life to emerge is not at all magical? I am not even saying it can not be explained by science at some point. I think not being astonished by biology and how it came to be, is showing a lack of understanding into the subject. How ever dry you want to make it. It is still fucking beautiful and it feels intensly meaningfull, and it is all the same for everyone. For the atheists and the fundamentalist, for the guru's and the hobo's.

[@CMDRRustyDog]

Well after putting us through such a long diatribe by Brand at the end there, it would have been nice to include Ricky's answer!

[@thisissparta3965]

Brand may have swallowed a dictionary and uses an entire chapter to basically ask a single question but he will never possess Gervais's genius.

[@shabbos-goy9407]

You got that right...

[@walking_in_the_shade]

Are we sure Brand isn't on drugs here? What a complete load of incomprehensible twaddle he uttered.

[@boofex1]

God doesn’t have to be real for god to be good. Who cares, I love both these fuckers

[@tezzo55]

Good man!

[@nugsefaqmamscandphdstudent8446]

Western cultures are structured around individualism and consumption rather than believing we are an interconnected community. We must not just think about ourselves but how our small practices impact others.

[@charlottehewson9522]

Two of my favourite men talking…life/death ❤ xx

[@EddieRicks-i8v]

Be careful when people quote the Bible so many times you think it’s referring to a new thing and it may not be the case . People are free to say yes to God or no to God . This subject matter is worth looking into .

[@StandUpSpeakUp]

"I feel that". Three words that perfectly sum up Russell's argument.

[@TheMLMGold]

Interview cuts off, is there a full length video of it?

[@kb2862]

I think most bad behavior or wars are caused by people who are religious or who have had religion stuffed down on them. My parents taught us to be good for the sake of being good because it's the right thing to do. I do also think it would be comforting if I could get myself to believe in the invisible God in the sky. 🤔

[@Spoonbill_88]

The two great wars of the 20th century had nothing to do with religion. The mongols conquest of Asia led by Genghis Khan had nothing to do with religion. I could go on but it seems like most war is just theft on a grand scale.

[@DanThomasUK]

When you’re at the afters waiting to have your turn in the conversation