Watch John destroy Evolution in 5 minutes

[@LivingWatersEurope]

"Haldane's Dilemma was resolved over 50 years ago" "These single mutations are not a problem when applied to the entire population" These two regularly brought up objections, have already been addressed in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jIGaYYB3hsSlhc0 You can watch the full details here... CFS Part 1: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2GcqZ6mrdd2Y7c CFS Part 2: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jIGaYYB3hsSlhc0 Creation Today: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYfbgXybd9Rpe7M

[@mountkeen8701]

@@LivingWatersEurope If you really wanted to support your assertion that those objections have been addressed you would be able to provide citations to the relevant scientific literature instead of additional creationist KZbin videos . The fact that you’re resorting to such a tactic speaks volumes, and not in a good way.

[@Harris19941]

@@mountkeen8701 lets just focus on the content instead of worshipping scientists

[@mountkeen8701]

@@Harris19941 That's an odd comment since I haven't mentioned scientists once. What @LivingWatersEurope did in their comment was claim that objections to their claims about science have been addressed. Except rather than cite any science that supports their claim, they chose to cite yet another creationist video. So yes......let's focus on the actual science of their claims and @LivingWatersEurope 's evasion and not on your made-up strawman.

[@SillyDeity]

@@mountkeen8701 Weird ain't it? All these objections to the claims made by @LivingWatersEurope......and instead of supporting their own claims about science with something scientific, they provide a link to one of their other videos, which in turn contains NO citations to any science. You couldn't make it up! (Well they have....obviously...)

[@murph19611]

@SillyDeity the Paris Japany has a dna of 149 billion bade pairs long , thats 596 billion chemicals in a row to rund the plants cell ...how does that happen? The Bumblebee Orchard looks like a Bumblebee, to get pollination, it emits the same pheromone the queen Bumblebee emits to attract the male bee for fertilization....so a flower with no eyes copies the look of a Bumblebee, a flower with no sense of smell copies the pheromone to attract the male bee , tell us how that happens without a designer?

[@reidveryan9414]

It's amazing how cellphones evolved by random chance from single circuit units to smart phones so that we can watch this video

[@osogrande4999]

@@reidveryan9414If that’s truly how your broken mind bends itself to these ideas then it’s amazing to me that you can string a sentence together.

[@reidveryan9414]

@@osogrande4999 say what??? Do you not understand sarcasm? But then again, you are only a large bear (apparently of little brain) and apparently cannot comprehend sarcasm nor humor.

[@notsocrates9529]

@@osogrande4999 Whoosh.

[@osogrande4999]

@@reidveryan9414 Unfortunately your sarcasm was far too close to actual things said by creationists to be obviously sarcasm. I love that fact that it triggered you though that did make me laugh 😹

[@MarcusN-kp1jn]

Evolution is not random and no serious scholar on the subject would argue that it is.

[@johnrichards6080]

People who don't understand evolution talking about evolution.

[@jamesmaybury7452]

Variation, adaptation, mutation Are useful categories Variation is the mixing of existing information, only half of our father’s DNA and half of mothers DNA. The variety of dogs is already present in original wolves/dingos. Adaption is the built in ability to change, our skin thickens when we walk barefoot, tan when we get lots of sun, build muscles when we exercise. Mutations is the copy errors in our DNA, evolution requires this process to create new, specific, precise, design information. Most mutations are either harmful or benign. To create a new effective protein needs thousands of coordinated DNA ‘letters’.

[@captaingaza2389]

@@jamesmaybury7452🤣🤣🤣

[@jamesmaybury7452]

@@captaingaza2389 What do you mean by that? How did you come to that conclusion?

[@captaingaza2389]

@@jamesmaybury7452 By reading your idea of adaptation as it relates to evolution

[@jamesmaybury7452]

@@captaingaza2389 variation in finch beaks used to be a classic of evolution but is now known to not need any new information and that there is a certain amount of adaption and mostly population genetics on variation. This is why it is useful to be clear about the information source and changes in the different processes.

[@RyanPayne-m3d]

​@@jamesmaybury7452let me guess macroevolution blah blah blah it's all the same and it all relates to the same concept. You guys pick and choose cuz of a religious ideology and nothing else it is not science and it's why it's not accepted as science. Has nothing to do with anything other than your prejudice. The whole world can see that.

[@JohnWallace74]

Thank you Jesus for dying on the cross for my sins and being the perfect sacrifice.

[@mirandahotspring4019]

Nah, he was seen alive and well a few days later, he had a rough weekend, that's all.

[@grayhalf1854]

I'll take 'things that never happened' for 10.

[@osogrande4999]

@@JohnWallace74 Not much of a sacrifice if you think of it, swept up to an eternal pain free existence in paradise according to you, sounds like he left you for a more fun party.

[@captaingaza2389]

@@JohnWallace74 Jesus was crucified for sedition Not for your sins FAIL

[@RyanPayne-m3d]

What does that have to do with evolution it doesn't it just proves that your religion has nothing to do with reality so you deny it. Not evolution is just as much as fact as the Earth being round. You denying it doesn't make it flat you denying it doesn't make you not an animal. It even says in the Bible people like you are vain.

[@kofi7110]

I love you for sharing in such a powerful way. May the mercies of God always be with you and your generations.

[@psychologicalprojectionist]

7:06 He seems to have convinced someone who didn't believe in evolution, that evolution is false. Wow!

[@Ancient-Paths]

Lee is a lovely man .... who is sincerely searching for God ... but sadly (at the moment) believes he has already found Him. Salvation is not about "contentment" but about redemption from sin (which, of course will bring contentment). When Lee truly recognises the depth of his sin and how it has offended a holy and loving God - he will be ready to be "born again." Only those who see they are "lost" - can in fact be "found." I pray Lee will soon come to know the Saviour. Thank you John, for your patience in bringing the gospel message.

[@upsbear]

LOL

[@the_alchemy_method]

I don’t think he got it yet

[@scottogden8509]

@@the_alchemy_method I thought that also.. Not sure Lee, no matter how sentient he is was not on the same wavelength.

[@deviousschematics3614]

@@the_alchemy_method what a loving God that he will send you to a lake of fire to burn for eternity for any miniscule of crimes you've done

[@Lightbearer616]

Watch Mickey Mouse destroy the existence of the sun in 5 minutes.

[@toni4729]

According to the Bible, Light was created before the sun. Page one.

[@madmadmal]

False premise. The assumption all base pairs are singular is wrong. Those base pairs are interrelated. A beneficial mutation can span many base pairs. On average there are a trillion of mutations every day in the human body, cancer is one of the worst. There are beneficial mutations that do get passed along. Viruses also infect humans in both negative and positive ways in DNA. HPV is one. Those DNA mutations are, generally, not passed between generations. This video is a way oversimplified evolution.

[@psychologicalprojectionist]

5:02 "Evidence should convince an unreasonable man" Err, that is surely stupid. Firstly a theory should explain the evidence and it is the theory that should convince, the evidence is neutral. Secondly if unreasonable are convince by reason, they are not unreasonable.

[@5keeno]

Wow, you worked really hard to pick that apart, but don't be too proud of yourself.

[@GabrielSimon]

accept Jesus's payment on the cross for your sins and you go to Heaven, simple

[@osogrande4999]

@@GabrielSimon He got a full refund and compensation according to you, not much of a payment after all.

[@Adam-rt2ir]

If you're right, then you'll still be alive and will go to heaven. If you're wrong, you will die having your life wasted.

[@grantm6514]

If Jesus is God, then Jesus paid himself. How does that achieve anything?

[@brianvell]

So nothing about leading a good life and treating others properly?

[@mavrosyvannah]

Don't want heaven, never sinned myself, your God murdered his son? No thanks. The Bible is full tard. Never go full tard.

[@ConservativeMirror]

I'm convinced that two guys sitting on a bench have destroyed evolution.

[@changedman6035]

Did you even watch the video?

[@someguy5438]

​@changedman6035 I did. At no point did it come close ti making a remotely valid point. Complete misunderstanding of a subject only destroys your credibility.

[@leongkhengneoh6581]

Why no Nobel prize being given to them yet?

[@jonathanb9889]

@ConservativeMirror evolution has never been true. For evolution to be true it needs one thing, new novel information from nowhere. From simple to complex, it needs to start somewhere in the past with no "widget" and then develop the first bit of widgetry that contains that new novel information. Evolution is a lie, it borrows from well known processes like adaptation, natural selection, and reproduction as "proof" of itself while ignoring that problem that has never been observed.

[@TimeIsNow4Jesus]

@@someguy5438 you provide no explanation other than insulting them for sitting on a bench

[@viktorhoffmann11]

Great work John, God bless you and the ministry. This is so helpful and inspiring. The Gospel is the only good news to everybody

[@throckmortensnivel2850]

The easist way to overthrow the theory of evolution is to bring your own theory that is better at explaining life on earth. Just running around saying evolution doesn't happen doesn't work because people can see that it does work. Think of Newtonian gravity. It held sway for two hundred years, even though people knew it had problems in extreme situations, but it wasn't until Einstein came along with relativity that Newtonian gravity was overturned. Well, it's still used in most circumstances because it works for most things. But the point is, if you want to overthrow an existing theory, bring a replacement theory that works. Trying to replace Darwinian evolution without proposing a better idea is a waste of time.

[@TimeIsNow4Jesus]

We do have an explanation, it's called the word of god, all the answers of creation are in there.

[@mirandahotspring4019]

@@TimeIsNow4Jesus Except that explanation is a lot of nonsense!

[@TimeIsNow4Jesus]

@@mirandahotspring4019 based on what? We have geological proof that the global flood happened. We have historical proof that Jesus Christ was here. We have eyewitness accounts that Jesus did miracles and wonders. What do you have? Assumptions and more assumptions and theories.

[@mirandahotspring4019]

@@TimeIsNow4Jesus There is no geological evidence for a global flood in human history. There are anonymous stories of Jesus written decades later. Try reading what a "scientific theory" actually is.

[@joyboy.brycegenre]

@@TimeIsNow4Jesus she was talking about people's explanation of "evolution" is non sense. Not your explanation of Jesus & the Bible to contest evolution. Y'all are on the same page

[@LivingWatersEurope]

Watch John go into more detail as to why Haldane's Dilemma destroys evolution. It includes frequently asked questions and objections: CFS Part 1: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2GcqZ6mrdd2Y7c CFS Part 2: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jIGaYYB3hsSlhc0 Creation Today: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYfbgXybd9Rpe7M

[@the_alchemy_method]

I dont think he got it yet

[@mrbigfeet9772]

Shalom Church, Recommended Church Movie Night a MUST SEE! and share with the faithful and those coming to the faith alike. Movie Description; 'The Scientific Truth About Creation, Flood & Evolution (The Ark and The Darkness Movie By Sevenfold Films) 'Filmed at Answers In Genesis team and associates at The Ark Encounter With compliments to the faithful works of AoC Network [ [11] So shall My Word be that Goeth forth out of My mouth: it Shall Not return to Me Void, but it Shall accomplish that which I please, And it Shall prosper [True Prosperity Gospel] in the thing whereto I sent it.Amen GLORY TO GOD 👣🕊️🌈

[@nickjones5435]

This is truly staggering! Do they really allow people like this to drive on the same roads as my children?

[@SillyDeity]

Sex solved "Haldane's Dilemma". This has been demonstrated. Why would you trust a some grifters from a religous cult rather than scientists that have actually done the work on this?

[@nickjones5435]

@@LivingWatersEurope Why can't living waters Europe provide even the tinniest scrap of credible evidence of your god?

[@Oandad]

This video was lying to you even before you clicked on it. It claims to debunk the theory of evolution in 5 minutes yet the video with 28 minutes 5 seconds. After watching 13 minutes 19 seconds I still believe in evolution. Matthew 24:4-5 Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Messiah.' and shall deceive many Couldn't this be interpreted as, Watch out that no one deceives you. 'Many will claim in Jesus's name that Jesus was the Messiah' and shall deceive many?

[@JimWilliams-s8z]

Its more absurdly inadequate than that. Mutations do not typically gradually build on the original mutation down through generations such as a webbed piece of skin between 2 toes . An offspring will not automatically manifest a second piece of webbed skin between a second set of toes. Such a concept of mutations building and building generation,after gemeration increasing information and fitness by changing the entire base design is absolute quackery of the highest order.

[@brianvell]

First off, you are saying this because you want to thump your bible. Your alternative is sky daddy's magic spells which is absurd. Second, you clearly misunderstand the mechanism of evolution. The mutations spread in a population, not an individual. Individual mutations in complex organisms, take a long time to have an effect, if any. However, these are carried, actively or passively, in a population until a mutation will give a reproductive advantage to a population. This takes a long time, with estimates ranging from a couple of thousand to millions of years. There is a huge difference between our small lifetime of around 70 years to a million years.

[@mavrosyvannah]

Your false description of everything is absurd. Try not lying about what evolution is. Then make it clear where we have come and where we need more that 200 years of multidisciplinary discovery.

[@JimWilliams-s8z]

@mavrosyvannah all you said was you disagree?? That's just an opinion. I clearly didn't mince words so if you can offer a informed rebuttal to my facts go for it.

[@johnboehmer6683]

This is what evolution worshipers all over this comment section are doing - mocking, sneering, accusing...but not rebutting.

[@johnboehmer6683]

​@@JimWilliams-s8z I only have a basic understanding of evolution, but what you related here has always struck me as extremely unlikely also. Despite the fact that the overwhelming majority of mutations are benign or negative, that mutations could build upon mutation in successive generations to start, continue, and ultimately finish the construction of, say, the longer tail that provides greater balance and agility, that gives the lizard a distinct advantage, that would now "survival of the fittest" his ancestors into obscurity. This, in my limited understanding at least, seems to demand assistance, or intelligence, or both to keep these mutations working in the same direction, expanding upon the initial change created by the first, and preventing negative ones from destroying the progress made. The odds just seem overwhelmingly unlikely. But your words are the first along the lines of that theory I've always held, glad I came upon it.

[@upsbear]

He erases 2 billion years of natural history with 5 minutes of words...

[@dariolemos4583]

He erases whatever perception of him as a rational person someone could have before listening to this...

[@JackStraw-s5b]

@@dariolemos4583 Neither of you have any evidence for your apefairy religion.

[@georgewade9748]

God said… Gen to Rev is all accurate ….words :)

[@JackStraw-s5b]

@@upsbear Your fairytale evo religion never happened

[@Skendeboy]

@@georgewade9748 Yeah blah blah

[@KristianHannler]

Great video!

[@osogrande4999]

@@KristianHannler Great video, I agree, it’s one of the comedy greats.

[@steve66oh]

5:01 OK.. I'm 5 minutes in. The title here promised that I could "watch evolution be destroyed in 5 minutes". But here at 5:01, evolution is still not "destroyed". 23 more minutes of video remain, and I'm confident that no "destruction of evolution" will happen there either.. I expect one of the two common MISREPRESENTATIONS of evolution theory - either the one where "a cow gives birth to a whale" or the one where "a cow decides to become a whale and transforms into a whale". But, I won't find out.. the title asked for 5 minutes, I gave it 5 minutes, the video failed in 5 minutes. So, is your title "lying for Jesus"?

[@mmaimmortals]

There is about a 5 minute segment around the 10 minute mark that destroyed evolution. Not only is there not enough time for consecutive beneficial mutations to accumulate, there is also not enough time for them to get fixed in the population. Haldane simply pointed out the obvious. Modern explanations have not overcome the problem.

[@osogrande4999]

@@steve66oh Let me make it easy for you. Two men’s reputations as intelligent rational beings were destroyed, that is all. You’re welcome. Also, a few extra brain cells in the head of anyone already biased to suck this nonsense up.

[@calebnichols6943]

Thank God for John Harris presentation of the gospel to this needy man!

[@haggismcbaggis9485]

I wonder why you are using Haldane's ideas from the 1950s to talk about genetics when the field has advanced significantly.

[@trevors2063]

Fundamental principles or physical laws never change. We know more about aerodynamics but the principles never change. Newtons Laws still apply today. Dogs still always produce dogs. Science is what we can observe and test. There is no evidence for dogs being anything other than dogs. Not even fossil evidence. Nothing in DNA science has been found to disprove Haldanes's findings.

[@YouTw1tFace]

You don’t seem to understand the argument. Please watch again.

[@nathancook2852]

@@trevors2063 Where can I find he work 'kind" in a science textbook and how is it's meaning able to change based upon whatever you all need it to mean?

[@trevors2063]

@@nathancook2852 The bible was written well before the classification system created in the 19th century, so the was no family, genus, phylum , species etc. So if you were God and you wanted to describe the animals that went on the ark, for all people, not just scientific people and for all the ages and young and old, what word would you have used ? Gods word is perfect.

[@captaingaza2389]

@@trevors2063 God would have used the modern day classification system seeing as he is all knowing Just more evidence the bible was written by ignorant people totally oblivious to the reality that surrounds them

[@brunobastos5533]

This is like those people that go to old people and say their money will lost is money and they need to change it

[@pomfrittbroccoli]

Very good! Thanks for the maths!

[@mirandahotspring4019]

You mean pulling random numbers out his arse!

[@frosted1030]

"Thanks for the maths!" Did he present a P value for his own model? Or even a model? Or even a qualitative definition to build a model? If none of these things make sense to you or him, maybe you should not be attacking science and get an education in the sciences instead.

[@brianvell]

If this is math, then I am Einstein

[@HardCoreMore]

Well done!!! This is what I was looking for.

[@HonestlyCurious-bp4gv]

Haldane's dilemma doesn't seem that tricky. Beneficial mutations can emerge to prominence when there is environmental pressures. Furthermore, any single generation produces many offspring. When pressures are present, those with those beneficial genes survive and those without die out.

[@dagwould]

OK, give an example. Show a single biochemical pathway's evolutionary basis. Evolution hypothesis is just a bunch of words looking for a fact. It's a clown show based on Darwin's mid-Victorian gross morphology fantasy.

[@kabalanstef9636]

@@dagwould ok, here we have an example. Lets say in germany during war, anyone above 1.70m was not sent to the front line and jest left to have kids. In a few generations, the "tall" gene was in everyone. The state also increases the "slelective presure) to 1.80m keep doing this for thousands of years, and then every german person is now idk 2.40m tall

[@stevedoetsch]

Using the evolutionary magic of conjecture, anything can happen when you just imagine it! All it takes to prove evolution is pure imagination! 😂 Seriously though, it's frightening that this guy really thinks it's scientific to claim that conjecture in his own mind proves a scientific claim. People who believe in evolution really have no concept of how science works at all. Evolutionists have destroyed science for the public when they actually believe that imagining things in their head is the same as scientific observation. This is just one of the ways that evolutionists destroy real science.😢

[@5keeno]

Producing a more efficient version of its own kind.

[@sjururhjgaard8794]

Great witnessing, brother.

[@osogrande4999]

@@sjururhjgaard8794 Where witnessing = not actually witnessing something and really means, great word salad to bend the mind of a clearly already lost cause.

[@pedroamaralcouto]

Next episode: Flat Earther destroys gravity speaking with random people.

[@mmaimmortals]

equivocation fallacy alert. earths shape is observable. gravity is directly testable. deep time and macro evolution are neither observable nor testable.

[@pedroamaralcouto]

​@@mmaimmortals Can you explain what is an equivocation fallacy?

[@pedroamaralcouto]

@@mmaimmortals My comment can't be an equivocation fallacy: all the words are different. An equivocation fallacy requires the same word used at least twice. I suppose you meant "weak analogy". But the dissimilarities are irrelevant and you provided incorrect propositions. Evolution is observable and testable. Gravity is not directly observable. My criticism was about the usage of the word "destroys". A KZbin video doesn't "destroy" something that consensual among scientists.

[@mmaimmortals]

@@pedroamaralcouto No, I meant equivocation fallacy. It's an equivocation fallacy because you are equating observational science (the shape of the earth from your OP) with past history (the subject of the video) that cannot be observed and then claiming that people who reject (evolution, by implication) should also reject a spherical earth because they are both "science". Evolution is not science. It's story telling using bone fragements and non-sequitor logic to tell the story.

[@mmaimmortals]

@@pedroamaralcouto I didn't explicitly define equivocation, I exemplified it. I don't agree with your definition because it is too narrow. What you've described is an equivocation fallacy, but there are other types as well. The root of the word equivocation (or equivocate) means error or mistake, at least in some languages. The broader meaning of equivocation is to make two things equal that are not. This can be words or (abstract) concepts or objects. As already explained above, you have made un-observable speculation equal to observable science.

[@marcin3844]

I hope that Lee got the point that he's interlocutor has made in the conversation.

[@callumclarke1733]

Unless you are humble and have peace in your heart no amount of evidence will ever Convince you God exists ✝️

[@moreplease998]

It would help if the people trying to convince others that god exists didn't get the topic they're talking about wrong.

[@cliveadams7629]

When the apologists stop lying I'll stop criticising. Trouble is, if they don't lie they have nothing to say.

[@nathancook2852]

@@moreplease998 This is their easy way out of explaining why not everyone believes like they do. They don't like to think. Ever.

[@osogrande4999]

@@callumclarke1733 Unless you are dogmatised at birth or slow minded you mean.

[@brianvell]

There is no evidence that a god exists. That is why it's called faith.

[@Binkyboy34]

The only thing you did here, mooron, is show you didn't actually understand Haldane's work. You know you're not a scientist, right?

[@dariolemos4583]

Unbelievable how scientifically poor and embarrasing this video is. The main source of evolutionary changes are genomic rearrangements, leading to gene duplication, genome structure changes including chromosome structure rearrangements, also viral and transposon activity (insertions, relocation dragging or losing regulatory elements), areas that accumulate rapid mutations, genetic drift, population bottlenecks changing the frequencies of all those events, hybridization with other human subspecies and introgression in general from archaic ancestors etc. If the author had any understanding of the level of missinformation conveyed by this video, he should take it down. Greetings from Harvard Medical School. Dario Lemos, PhD, Asst Professor of Medicine.

[@mmaimmortals]

gene duplication is antithetical to mutation rates that are cited at 1E-7 and used for calibrations of genetic clocks.

[@lenawagner6405]

Thanx. Very educational we are all learning. The Bible is only a summery of what actually happened and we were not there to see😂! We only came looking afterwards. And we cannot read the ancient Hebrew and Aramaic and Greek languages😂 so our understanding is tied down to a hobble.😢😢

[@yibaibashimu6223]

Wow! With all those smarts and all that knowledge (so scientific sounding) Harvard Med, I'm just about ready to believe in your captivating story! Just one thing first though--can you please, pretty please, just tell me how life started in the first place? Even Santa has a believable origin story--no matter how ridiculous the later claims about him might be.

[@yibaibashimu6223]

You can't even describe how the simplest organisms came to be, muchless how they got the instructions to proliferate--you condescend to mock us lowly simpletons and dare to act like you can explain the unimaginably complex organisms, where they came from, and the systems that govern their adaptations? Very bold Assistant Professor. Still believe in primordial soup, I guess? Sophomoric.

[@dariolemos4583]

@@yibaibashimu6223no one is being condescending. Knowledge is humble because it is an ongoing yet ever improving process we humans perform in a systematic manner. On the other hand, fake knowledge like the one exposed in this video and the kind boasted by religious fanatics isn’t. The claims made in this video are false and can be shredded easily. Life is a self-organized phenomenon plagued with errors some of which result in new capacities. Self-replicating molecules, protocells, and evolution of protocells are all known facts. Some 50% of your genome is made of archaic pre biotic protoviruses. Happy to debate

[@epicofgilgamesh9964]

*The Enuma Elish would later be the inspiration for the Hebrew scribes who created the text now known as the biblical Book of Genesis.* Prior to the 19th century CE, the Bible was considered the oldest book in the world and its narratives were thought to be completely original. In the mid-19th century CE, however, European museums, as well as academic and religious institutions, sponsored excavations in Mesopotamia to find physical evidence for historical corroboration of the stories in the Bible. ***These excavations found quite the opposite, however, in that, once cuneiform was translated, it was understood that a number of biblical narratives were Mesopotamian in origin.*** *Famous stories such as the Fall of Man and the Great Flood were originally conceived and written down in Sumer,* translated and modified later in Babylon, and reworked by the Assyrians ***before they were used by the Hebrew scribes for the versions which appear in the Bible.*** ***In revising the Mesopotamian creation story for their own ends, the Hebrew scribes tightened the narrative and the focus but retained the concept of the all-powerful deity who brings order from chaos.*** Marduk, in the Enuma Elish, establishes the recognizable order of the world - *just as God does in the Genesis tale* - and human beings are expected to recognize this great gift and honor the deity through service. *"Enuma Elish - The Babylonian Epic of Creation - Full Text - World History Encyclopedia"* *"Sumerian Is the World's Oldest Written Language | ProLingo"* *"Sumerian Civilization: Inventing the Future - World History Encyclopedia"* ("The Sumerians were the people of southern Mesopotamia whose civilization flourished between c. 4100-1750 BCE." "Ancient Israelites and their origins date back to 1800-1200 BCE.") *"The Myth of Adapa - World History Encyclopedia"* Also discussed by Professor Christine Hayes at Yale University in her 1st lecture of the series on the Hebrew Bible from 8:50 to 14:30 minutes, lecture 3 from 28:30 to 41:35 minutes, lecture 4 from 0:00 up to 21:30 minutes and 24:00 up to 35:30 minutes and lecture 7 from 24:20 to 25:10 minutes. From a Biblical scholar: "Many stories in the ancient world have their origins in other stories and were borrowed and modified from other or earlier peoples. *For instance, many of the stories now preserved in the Bible are* ***modified*** *versions of stories that existed in the cultures and traditions of Israel’s* ***older*** *contemporaries.* Stories about the creation of the universe, a cataclysmic universal flood, digging wells as land markers, the naming of important cultic sites, gods giving laws to their people, and even stories about gods decreeing the possession of land to their people were all part of the cultural and literary matrix of the ancient Near East. *Biblical scribes freely* ***adopted and modified*** *these stories as a means to express their own identity, origins, and customs."* *"Stories from the Bible"* by Dr Steven DiMattei, from his website *"Biblical Contradictions"* ------------------------------------------------------------------ In addition, look up the below articles. *"Yahweh was just an ancient Canaanite god. We have been deceived! - Escaping Christian Fundamentalism"* *"Hammurabi - World History Encyclopedia"* (Hammurabi (r. 1792-1750 BCE) was the sixth king of the Amorite First Dynasty of Babylon best known for his famous law code which served as the model for others, *including the Mosaic Law of the Bible.)* *"Debunking the Devil - Michael A. Sherlock (Author)"* *"The Greatest Trick Religion Ever Pulled: Convincing Us That Satan Exists | Atheomedy"* *"Zoroastrianism And Persian Mythology: The Foundation Of Belief"* (Scroll to the last section: Zoroastrianism is the Foundation of Western Belief) *"10 Ways The Bible Was Influenced By Other Religions - Listverse"* *"January | 2014 | Atheomedy"* - Where the Hell Did the Idea of Hell Come From? *"Retired bishop explains the reason why the Church invented "Hell" - Ideapod"* Watch *"The Origins of Salvation, Judgement and Hell"* by Derreck Bennett at Atheologica (Sensitive theists should only watch from 7:00 to 17:30 minutes as evangelical Christians are lambasted. He's a former theist and has been studying the scholarship and comparative religions for over 15 years) *"Top Ten Reasons Noah’s Flood is Mythology - The Sensuous Curmudgeon"* *"Forget about Noah's Ark; There Was No Worldwide Flood | Bible Interp"* *"The Search for Noah’s Flood - Biblical Archaeology Society"* *"Eridu Genesis - World History Encyclopedia"* *"The Atrahasis Epic: The Great Flood & the Meaning of Suffering - World History Encyclopedia"* Watch *"How Aron Ra Debunks Noah's Flood"* (8 part series debunking Noah's flood using multiple branches of science) *"The Adam and Eve myth - News24"* *"Before Adam and Eve - Psychology Today"* *"Gilgamesh vs. Noah - Wordpress"* *"Old Testament Tales Were Stolen From Other Cultures - Griffin"* *"Parallelism between “The Hymn to Aten” and Psalm 104 - Project Augustine"* *"Studying the Bible"* - by Dr Steven DiMattei (This particular article from a critical Biblical scholar highlights how the authors of the Hebrew Bible used their *fictional* god as a mouthpiece for their own views and ideologies) *"How do we know that the biblical writers were* ***not*** *writing history?"* -- by Dr Steven DiMattei *"Contradictions in the Bible | Identified verse by verse and explained using the most up-to-date scholarly information about the Bible, its texts, and the men who wrote them"* -- by Dr. Steven DiMattei

[@MomCN]

John, you do this SO well!! We enjoy learning from you! God bless you, brother! 🙏🏻✝️

[@cliveadams7629]

Bad news. He's wrong, you're learning nothing.

[@saintmalaclypse3217]

John LIED in the headline, and you bless him for it? He LIED. Whether you accept evolution or not, he did NOT destroy it, and you literally KNOW that he lied. But you praise him. Do you see the problem?

[@RyanPayne-m3d]

​@@cliveadams7629no for real though evolution is just as much as fact as the Earth being round people just don't like it because it doesn't fit with their religion and they know the implications of sad fact. Your inability to understand doesn't make you smarter than everybody that's ever worked on biology taxonomy anything to do with animals for some dude on the street to act like he knows better than all of them. Weak religions are as they can't even grow up and they can't even move on. They're stuck ideology and evolution is true . 1000 douchebags on the internet can say that the Earth is flat that doesn't mean the Earth is flat and they're smarter than hundreds of years of people studying this. And the fact is. Science has nothing to do with religion they just know the implications of religion and what it actually says about reality so they have to deny science.. do you think Jesus gives a f*** and a giant black void about a tiny speck that's already killed billions and trillions of animals. Do you think Jesus matters. To the to deny that to act like some dude is the creator of the universe is son magic space wizard. Going to save only the selfish ones who believe exactly what you do. By the random circumstance of chance and place and time. Does the science denial crap is this religions last coping mechanism but it's been doing it since science is inception because it's weak ideology draped in power really fearful everyday that the truth may come out. And will you may learn too much. To give the church and these idiots wearing costumes any more money so that they don't have to get real jobs. August to say that it literally says in the Bible that you are vain to act like you're not an animal. You are vain to act like you won't die like one too. Nobody really knows. It's not your right. Even if God is real. So I think you should just listen to the people who do this their whole life . And stop lying about science and reality because that makes religion look like s***. And maybe would have believed if it wasn't for a whole bunch of grifters that literally rather believe folklore about talking snakes in human sacrifice. Then the best modern technology and science available.

[@cliveadams7629]

@urbanspaceman7183 No, I have learned that evolution has a huge body of evidence over nearly 2 centuries to support it. It allows us to make progress in many areas, one of the most important being medical treatments, while your religion has contributed nothing of use for 2 thousand years. The only way you can continue to favour a bronze age story over proven science is your determined refusal to learn which you then have to project onto others because you have no facts to counter with.

[@cliveadams7629]

@@urbanspaceman7183 Many dustbins suffer on the internet.

[@toni4729]

It always happens, when someone turns back to some form of religion it's because of a death or a severe loss, usually in the family. A person needs to turn to someone, or (something).

[@mickhealy572]

I can show that evolution is truth beyond question easy enough and knowing the truth doesnt automatically mean no god, just the end of the creation myths of the middle east.

[@stevedoetsch]

@@mickhealy572 Go ahead because science is still waiting for that evidence. There has yet to be a single evolutionist who has gotten a scientific award proving evolution so you will be the first.

[@mickhealy572]

@@stevedoetsch The platypus form and its genome prove beyond doubt evolution s truth...

[@mmaimmortals]

Non séquitur fallacy alert. similarities do not logically equate to universal common ancestry.

[@mickhealy572]

@@mmaimmortals A what alert? what similarities? you mean like convergent evolution similarities such as ichthyosaurs and dolphins?

[@mmaimmortals]

@@mickhealy572 You can paint it any color you like. Similarity does not inevitably lead to universal common ancestry. Not only are there other explanations for similarities, there are much better explanations than evolution via piece wise mutations and natural selection.

[@slopermarco]

"And God created man; [...] male and female he created them." Until the Paris 2024 Olympic Games.

[@nathancook2852]

It's no surprise that virtually ever flat earther is also a young earth creationist. They have the same tactics. Hand wave away evidence you don't like, lie, and lie some more to cover your other lies.

[@NEH85]

Well, considering the fact that science cannot explain or recreate the origin of life, God is a perfectly reasonable explanation.

[@nathancook2852]

@@NEH85 Evolution has nothing to do with the origin of life. And since all the evidence supports evolution, claiming others is a perfectly ridiculous explanation.

[@NEH85]

@@nathancook2852 If we have no proof that life can originate from random processes, we have no reason to believe in macro evolution. We're still looking for the 'missing link' that proves one creature can turn into a completely different one. Of course adaptation is very real and observable, but DNA is an informational code that is not as easily maleable as scientists would lead us to believe. Information comes from Mind. A software program can't write itself. Darwin's theories are outdated and blatantly incorrect in light of new information regarding genetics. The atheistic scientific world desperately want to discredit the Bible as it infringes on their authority. Ironically, science will eventually prove the existence of a creator. It already has in fact. It's the only explanation for life, as it is mathematically impossible for everything to exist otherwise.

[@nathancook2852]

@@NEH85 That study is called abiogenesis, and they ae making remarkable progress. Lee Cronin is someone you should check out. Adaptation IS evolution, lol. So you believe in evolution, you just have to change the name to make it fit your beliefs. Got it. Again, personal incredulity doesn't disprove anything. What authority does science have? Science is just the uncovering and study of evidence. The YEC arguments just keep getting more and more silly. Science cannot gather evidence for the supernatural, so you have no way to ever prove your creator. That is why faith is required, and the founders of your religion designed it that way. You just keep showing how ignorant you are about science.

[@Adam-rt2ir]

@@NEH85 Science can explain and recreate to certain extent the origin of life. Also it has nothing to do with evolution, see message above me

[@quetzelmichaels1637]

Is not my house firm before God? He has made an eternal covenant with me, set forth in detail and secured. Will he not bring to fruition all my salvation and my every desire? (2Sa 23:5 NAB) There are, to be sure, many Gods and many Lords, yet for us there is one God, the Father, (1Co 8:5-6 NABO) The Lord God will give him the throne of David his Father (Luk 1:32 NABO) Blessed is the kingdom of our Father David that is to come! (Mar 11:10 NABO) Then comes the end, when he hands over the kingdom to his God and Father (1Co 15:24 NABO)

[@nickjones5435]

This is truly staggering! Do they really allow people like this to drive on the same roads as my children?

[@RyanPayne-m3d]

Hey it says in the Bible that your vein to act like you're not an animal so anybody who's denying the fact of evolution is vain.

[@nickjones5435]

@@RyanPayne-m3d OK,! And your point is????

[@osogrande4999]

@@RyanPayne-m3d Well if it says so in the bible…. ugh

[@longroad8107]

Where?

[@dagwould]

@@longroad8107 In the whole philosophy of reality that the Bible reflects.

[@alanconnors8881]

I've retired recently. Without the commitment after 55 years of having to basically commit myself to employers, focusing on my faith has been very important to me. I have wanted to strengthen my relationship with Jesus Christ. I've have a strong desire to have a better understanding of creation vs evolution. Of course it's creation! I've known this. That's what faith is. This conversation has not only giving me a better understanding of creation, it has strengthened my desire to continue to move forward learning.

[@MountKeen]

"Faith" is defined as belief without evidence. Science requires evidence. That's why biological evolution is a field of science.

[@Ozzyman200]

So much funding, yet still creationists don't seem to be able to find one flaw in evolution that creationism can fix.

[@jeffburton1326]

You say in 5 minutes but it is a 28 minute video. I guess we just start with lies.

[@unkerpaulie]

The math is so flawed ... 1. The genetic difference between chimpanzees and humans is about 2% 2. Genetic variation is genetic variation. A mutation does not have to be "beneficial" for it to be passed on to the next generation. The "beneficial" qualifier makes no sense. 3. A "generation" is essentially as little as the time between an organism's birth and it's sexual maturity 4. There is no rule that mutations are limited to one per generation 5. You are completely ignoring the fact that parents have multiple offspring, allowing for far more genetic variation and crossover than your arbitrarily linear scenario 6. Humans and chimps evolved from a COMMON ANCESTOR, ie, both chimps and humans have been producing genetic variations over the same time period from that ancestor 7. Your flawed math, even if it were somewhat valid, doesn't help support bible mythology in any way Thank you for demonstrating that theism requires ignoring fact and reasoning to remain acceptable.

[@georgewade9748]

2 percent is incorrect…where did you learn such

[@slopermarco]

8. finally, multiply the result thus obtained by the number of living beings that have lived since the common homo/chimpanzee ancestor up to the present (100 billion individuals just for Homo Sapiens and leaving aside the other human species and the chimpanzes). Result = 1,667 x 100 billion = *166,700 BILLION at least possible mutations!* And I underline "at least", because in reality they are enormously more.

[@statutesofthelord]

So in July people are wearing down coats in the UK?

[@MJ-ce6tv]

@@statutesofthelord This is Britain in the summertime. Grateful that an umbrella wasn’t needed that day.

[@kdaviper]

@@statutesofthelord literally people walking around in tank tops and this guy is in a puffy jacket😄

[@nathancook2852]

Sooooo, still no evidence for your argument. Why am I not surprised?

[@luboshcamber1992]

@nathancook2852 Soooo you're pretending to look for evidence. Showing the impossibility of your religion is of course not evidence for you. You know why? Because you're not seeking evidence. You're seeking an excuse.

[@cameronmorgan4329]

Creation itself is evidence. The coded sequence of dna is evidence. Wake up, brother. Please.

[@boni2786]

Great!

[@MJ-ce6tv]

I pray that this man finds a biblically sound church, where he may be discipled. He’s very sincere but needs some correction on a few issues.

[@cliveadams7629]

I hope he finds someone who doesn’t lie to him so he can find his way out of his horrible superstitious nightmare.

[@colinleighton7113]

Can't see how anything they have said disproves anything

[@JDHuffman]

@colinleighton7113 There is simply not enough Time for Evolution to occur. DNA disproves Evolution. To make DNA takes Intelligence and Information. There is simply no way that DNA could evolve on it's own by random chance proceeses.

[@MountKeen]

@@JDHuffman You are making an argument from ignorance and by claiming that _"There is simply no way that DNA could evolve on it's own by random chance proceeses"_ you're also demonstrating your ignorance of biology. Funny that.

[@gordo191]

There is definitely other planets out there the bible tells us so Hebrews 1 v 2 in the last days spoken to us by his son who made the " worlds " . Happy Sabbath everyone.

[@Steinstra-vj7wl]

No, doesn't say worlds / plural: it says World. There is only one planet with life on it: this one.

[@gordo191]

@@Steinstra-vj7wl I use the new king James version. It does say worlds .

[@Steinstra-vj7wl]

@@gordo191 The original "old" says WORLD !

[@gordo191]

@@Steinstra-vj7wl I just checked the KJV it says worlds . I know there are other verses that say the same but I will have to search where I read it . With the size of the universe do you think GOD only made this world . I can remember somewhere it says we are a theatre to the universe. Leave it with me and I will try and find it .

[@Steinstra-vj7wl]

@@gordo191 Here is the difference between Christians that take the Word of God literally or as they read it, and then those who add or take away from it... DON"T DO THAT ! God warns us not to do that. Revelation 22, verse 18. For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. 20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. 21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

[@jthepickle7]

the complexity of a single-celled organism vs a puddle...

[@frosted1030]

"the complexity of a single-celled organism vs a puddle." When you conflate complexity with intent, you get egotism. This is where creationists fall flat.

[@jasonjudd4]

@@frosted1030 wait, creationism falls flat because of your feelings toward the person presenting an argument? I always thought it was a belief that somatic mutations on HOX genes being inheritable was why evolution is true. Lol

[@frosted1030]

@@jasonjudd4 "wait, creationism falls flat because of your feelings toward the person presenting an argument?" No, because creationism IS an argument, not a model. "I always thought it was a belief that somatic mutations on HOX genes being inheritable was why evolution is true. Lol" Evolutionary biology (a scientific model) holds up to PhD examination, new data, and endless challenges from better quality data. We call that true (to the five sigma minimum and beyond trend analysis). Creationism is only a beLIEf, you are looking at two different methodologies, one based on direct and indirect scientific observation, deeply detailed analysis, and you are trying through some odd contortion to compare that to a simple beLIEf based on iron age fables written before toilet paper was invented. You can contrast these methodologies and see which brings you results, if you care to.

[@jasonjudd4]

@@frosted1030abiogenesis, evolution, and stellar evolution are all models. Technically abiogenesis doesn’t have a model and evolution doesn’t have a mechanism-unless you firmly believe that mutations that cause my nose to be bigger than yours is the mechanism to change Hox genes to form new novel morphology. New, novel, body cells are produced by somatic mutation. It is an evolutionary requirement. Somatic mutations are not inheritable. Sorry you didn’t know this. So now you have shown you also have a belief. That is funny.

[@frosted1030]

@@jasonjudd4 "Technically abiogenesis doesn’t have a model and evolution doesn’t have a mechanism-unless you firmly believe that mutations that cause my nose to be bigger than yours is the mechanism to change Hox genes to form new novel morphology." We are not discussing abiogenesis (at this point it would be pointless, you lack the chemistry and relative background to discuss as demonstrated here). "Sorry you didn’t know this. So now you have shown you also have a belief." Look at that tu quoque. Show a where you find a complete organism with no lineage spontaneously appearing, this IS what you are fighting so hard for a beLIEf in. Show where this has happened and demonstrate the mechanism.

[@dmcgwhisper5945]

That man's mind is in a knot. I feel for him. Please Lord undo what the world has done to him.

[@saintmalaclypse3217]

The world didn't do it to him. The adults in his childhood who should have taught him critical thinking skills instead taught him superstition.

[@tonybarfridge4369]

Sadly so are all the commenters, although God's Word can be understood by an uneducated child

[@maddi62]

I wonder how many people dont know to open a window to let the spirit out when someone dies 😳

[@grantm6514]

@maddi62 I was with my mother when she died, nobody knew to open a window. According to this guy, that should worry me. Fortunately, she was an atheist like me, so she's probably not still flying around looking for an open window 😉

[@maddi62]

@@grantm6514 Quite. A snake or an octopus could get through the slightest of crack, but a body-less spirit is completely stumped if you don’t open a window 🤣

[@BlackMagicWiccan]

Couldn't make it through John's 5 minutes, a very long 5 minutes, made it the 14:10 mark.

[@lisawilmotte1240]

Prayers

[@anthonycrumb5753]

Related to bannanas surely that must be Ray Comfort.

[@mirandahotspring4019]

Poor old Ray used that stupid banana proof of god nonsense for years until someone explained to him Cavendish bananas, the ones we eat, aren't natural, they are the product of extensive selective cultivation by man. The original natural banana is practically inedible because of lots of big hard seeds.

[@osogrande4999]

@@anthonycrumb5753 Don’t bring him into it, I was on a comfort break.

[@anthonycrumb5753]

@@osogrande4999 Sorry my apologies.

[@osogrande4999]

@@anthonycrumb5753 I forgive you, Rays magical thinking about the 100% human genetically engineered modern banana always makes me laugh at the irony of his argument.

[@MichaelWilliams-mn7wf]

One guy is wearing a zipped up jacket and the other has on short sleeves.

[@osogrande4999]

@@MichaelWilliams-mn7wf So either one is two hot or the other too cold. I just don’t know what to think.

[@chriswest8389]

Watch Richard Dawkins destroy him in 3

[@anthonycrumb5753]

Haldanes Dilemma (1957) also known as the waiting time problem is a limit on the speed of beneficial evolution. Before the the invention of DNA sequencing technologies it was not known how much polymorphism DNA harbored although allocnzyme (variant forms of an enzyme which differ structually but not functionally from other alloenzymes coded for different alleles at the same locus) were begining to make it clear that substantionial polymorhhism existed. This 'dilemma' was solved in 1968 by Motoo Kimura's landmark paper on neutral theory built on Haldanes work to suggest that most evolution is neutral thus resolving the dilemma. Ray Comfort and his minions could no more disprove the theory of evolution than Ray could fly to the moon on his bike with the little dog in front. This is just more disingenuous Christian BS - is lying for Jesus breaking the 9th Commandment or do you get a pass ' cos it's Jesus.

[@MisterFixitNumber1]

So Haldanes confirmed DNA mutations are random and unguided. DNA is the world's most complicated computer type program. Randomly writing a program is not possible and randomly modifying an existing program would always result in loss of program function.

[@Adam-rt2ir]

@@MisterFixitNumber1 Randomly writing a program is possible. And randomly modifying an existing program would often, but definitely not always, result in loss of program function. Even if I accept the analogy, you're just wrong

[@someguy5438]

I watched a confused individual destroy their credibility for five munutes.

[@TimeIsNow4Jesus]

How so?

[@mirandahotspring4019]

Like when the nurse opened the window to let the spirit out! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Or, "Some people say we came from ape like ancestors..." We are ape like because we are apes, great apes! How dumb can you get?

[@medicalmisinformation]

An individual destroy HIS, not plural "their."

[@someguy5438]

@@medicalmisinformation thanks, but you are incorrect. Don't attempt to correct someone unless you are sure, and you aren't because you are wrong. their" can also be used as a replacement for the singular possessive adjectives "his" or "her" in certain situations. These include when the gender of the possessor is unknown. Try again, sport.

[@someguy5438]

@medicalmisinformation An individual destroyed their reputation to understand grammar. Some guy on you tube destroyed his reputation to understand grammar. When gender isn't specified, their, is the appropriate pronoun.

[@ALI-qn3wm]

But you don’t count mutations from second biological parent mutations, it’s means ^2 , because all humans on earth have 2 parents =500k^2= tottaly a different number, you can check yourself 😊😊 cheers from Moscow 🤙🏻

[@williamgreenfield9991]

More evidence that the Liars for Jesus club has lots of KZbin channels.

[@N0nPluzUltra]

If there is no GOD, what's wrong with lying and what is your standard to go by?

[@williamgreenfield9991]

@@N0nPluzUltra Well, I have my own standards based on my own conscience and one of those standards is to do my best not to lie, but we aren't talking about MY standards (or whether there is a "GOD" or not), now are we? We are talking about the standards that so-called Christians are SUPPOSED to have, but CLEARLY DON'T! I guess you folks think it's OK to lie about science and math if you think those lies will help shore up your Jesus myths. If your standards include obeying the Biblical commandment to NOT LIE, then you are doing a terrible job living up to that standard. It's called hypocrisy and I seem to remember from my reading the words of Jesus in the Bible that hypocrites don't make it to heaven. Hmmm.

[@SillyDeity]

@@N0nPluzUltra Those that claim there is a god have a burden of proof. Do you have evidence that one exits? Not only that, but do you have evidence that you own very specific god exists? Once you've provided that evidence THEN we can start talking about your question.

[@N0nPluzUltra]

@@SillyDeity I did not make the claim, that there is a GOD. I am absolutely sure, that there is a GOD and he is the GOD of the Bible. I was simply asking what exactly is wrong with lying, if there is no GOD and what is the standard to go by? One thing I know for certain. If there is no GOD, nothing is wrong with lying, murdering, stealing and so on. It is just a matter of opinion of one chemical accident over the opinion of another chemical accident.

[@SillyDeity]

@@N0nPluzUltra So you're now making the claim that you are _"absolutely sure, that there is a god"_ and you make a further claim that the god in question _"is the god of the bible"_ So are you going to provide what was originally asked of you, namely the evidence that a god exists and additionally are you going to provide evidence that the god in question is the "god of the bible"? If you can't or won't provide that evidence then you're being dishonest in claiming such knowledge.

[@maggslx]

They opened the window, so the spirit would leave? 😂😂😂❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@jakubholic8769]

There comes lie abou evolution, and no factual arguments to support the claim. So this video is pure nonsense

[@rayshurance]

Beautiful

[@xxmausermanxx8389]

So much information that is wrong here. Just a quick google search will show you that. Also he got one of the commandments wrong so there's that.

[@goldstinger325]

@@xxmausermanxx8389 Feel free to share

[@calebwatkins1212]

And our spiritual condition as humans goes even deeper than just simply committing sins. We aren’t sinners because we sin, we sin because WE ARE sinners. We are born that way. And we are born sinners because we are also conceived that way. We are dead spiritually. Our souls are either 100% saved or 100% lost. “Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, And in sin my mother conceived me.” ‭‭Psalms‬ ‭51‬:‭5‬ ‭ “The wicked are estranged from the womb; They go astray as soon as they are born, speaking lies.” ‭‭Psalms‬ ‭58‬:‭3‬ “Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned-” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭5‬:‭12‬ “And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses,” ‭‭Colossians‬ ‭2‬:‭13‬ ‭ “And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins,” ‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭2‬:‭1‬ ‭ “But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved),” ‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭2‬:‭4‬-‭5‬ ‭ “But the free gift is not like the offense. For if by the one man’s offense many died, much more the grace of God and the gift by the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, abounded to many. And the gift is not like that which came through the one who sinned. For the judgment which came from one offense resulted in condemnation, but the free gift which came from many offenses resulted in justification.” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭5‬:‭15‬-‭16‬ ‭ “For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.” ‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭2‬:‭8‬-‭9‬ ‭ Realizing we are all born this way, none seek God on their own (Romans 3), and that we are literally dead (spiritual corpses), gives God the glory due his name when we understand that HE MADE US ALIVE. Then we can better understand how much of a gift (meaning grace) that faith really is when we are able to believe on Christ in repentance. God’s mercy and grace is astounding, and He is our ONLY hope!

[@grayhalf1854]

Mate you need to get out more 🙄

[@calebwatkins1212]

@@grayhalf1854 maybe you can teach me some things, but if you don’t know who God is, I doubt it. Especially about the meaning of life, why we are here, what happens after this life, etc. “The fear of the Lord is the BEGINNING of knowledge...” ‭‭Proverbs‬ ‭1‬:‭7‬a I’ll stick to those who fear the Lord and don’t take for granted the fact that God gives them every breath they take by his sovereign grace. And I pray that God changes your heart to realize that.

[@rolfme5499]

28 minutes of meaningless gibberish! .

[@settingsstudios]

Glory ❤

[@majesticmalfeasance]

This guy just has a script he's following and trying to cram into this conversation. He actually puts words in the other guy's mouth so he can follow his script. It's ridiculous.

[@hosscat1829]

@@majesticmalfeasance which guy is which? The Christian is a smart guy, but the guy with the dark hair is trying to explain evolution when it’s not possible to reproduce it or observe it or test it so it not Science, it’s a theory, an ideology.

[@osogrande4999]

“I can’t fathom evolutionary processes”, which are absolutely irrefutable by the way, “therefore god” (whatever THAT is). 2024, age of information and this is the level of wilful ignorance taking place never ceases to amaze me.

[@MisterFixitNumber1]

The most educated people in the world are looking for another solution as they know evolution theory cannot overcome it's proven failings.

[@osogrande4999]

@@MisterFixitNumber1 Evolutionary processes take place, that is a very well documented and exploited fact. The least educated people in the world are saying “I can’t see how, therefore bible”.

[@osogrande4999]

@@MisterFixitNumber1 … and I will add, there are many mysteries still to explore and hypothesise about that is for sure. Some compelling hypotheses include genetic intervention by non human actors, I don’t believe or disbelieve anything, but work by the likes of Bruce Fenton offer up some interesting alternatives in the scope of drastic and rapid genetic mutations, nobody is hiding this fact but evolution is still a thing whether our current from/to mutations happened purely from environmental influence or outside intervention. What is truly sad to me is that people discard their intellect and curiosity in favour of “believing” in some scrawlings amounting to “god did it” in a few sentences of a 2000+ year old manuscript.

[@mirandahotspring4019]

@@MisterFixitNumber1 No, not true. Evolution is still being taught in schools and studied in universities all over the world. Idiots denying it won't make it go away.

[@tibotibo6]

​@@MisterFixitNumber1 And can you tell us what these "proven failings" are?

[@yibaibashimu6223]

Ray Comfort makes it look so easy.

[@mattl3023]

That's not Ray Comfort. Not sure who, though.

[@yibaibashimu6223]

@@mattl3023 😉 yes that's my point. This guy is not Comfort. But, hey, I appreciate his efforts! At least he's out there trying. I'm just sitting here writing comments, as if I know what it's like to do what he's trying to do. G'd bless him--G'd bless them both.

[@lewiswhitchurch3651]

Hes my uncle

[@Binkyboy34]

It is easy to look stupid and uneducated. It takes actual work to get the degrees and do the work of science.

[@yibaibashimu6223]

@@Binkyboy34 Who do you think looks stupid or uneducated? Ray Comfort or this guy, or someone else?

[@andreadashnea7305]

Such a bad argument.. he is assuming that there’s only 1 DNA mutation per generation…didn’t he think that there could be thousands at a time?

[@jerrythompson5967]

So if we evolved from apes why are there still apes?

[@andreadashnea7305]

@@jerrythompson5967 we are apes. Apes generalize monkeys, gorillas, baboons, humans..

[@SillyDeity]

@@jerrythompson5967 If you evolved from your great great great grandparents, why do you still have cousins?

[@jerrythompson5967]

@SillyDeity I shouldn't have to explain this to you but those cousins are human just like me! Now explain how some apes evolved and others didn't ....lmao!

[@SillyDeity]

@@jerrythompson5967 I shouldn't have to explain this to you, but why do you think that "some apes evolved and others didn't"?

[@StuMas]

The mentioned dilemma wouldn't make evolution impossible per se but, very unlikely at best. Either, much more time has elapsed or, there is something wrong with evolutionary dating methods. Among other things, I find the claim that a randomly created life form can, by chance, evolve to possess meaningful knowledge to be highly dubious.

[@frosted1030]

"Among other things, I find the claim that a randomly created life form can, by chance, evolve to possess meaningful knowledge to be highly dubious." Always funny how creationists make this claim, this strawman. So do tell, when have you observed a life form popping into existance with no lineage at all. This is the creationist's lie. Something happening when there is no tracking because they simply don't have the education to back up what they say. Go on, ask them for tracking. You will find logical fallacies all the way down.

[@StuMas]

@@frosted1030 I don't think you have understood my comment. It's not about lineage at all but rather, that random mutations can bring about intelligent beings capable of discovering nature's secrets - for no apparent reason. I don't think that is a strawman argument.

[@frosted1030]

@@StuMas " It's not about lineage at all but rather, that random mutations can bring about intelligent beings capable of discovering nature's secrets - for no apparent reason." That's an argument from ignorance fallacy, and a strawman. Evolutionary biology never says that everything is purely random or that random mutation is the only mechanism at work. Next.

[@StuMas]

@@frosted1030 "Evolutionary biology never says that everything is purely random..." You can't have it both ways: either, there is no meaning or intention behind evolution or, there is. Which is it?

[@frosted1030]

@@StuMas "You can't have it both ways: either, there is no meaning or intention behind evolution or, there is. Which is it?" You must be slow. First there was a silly strawman, now you are implying that you have no education in evolutionary biology and you demand that it conform to YOUR personal philosophical deficits. Evolutionary biology is a measurement and a very very very precise measurement at that. Five sigma precice. What you are saying is no different than "an inch tells me someone is out there making every inch!". This sort of nonsense is discredited IF you have the balls to get an education. Otherwise who cares what you play at?

[@kabalanstef9636]

Ah, the creationist clasics. Not understanding things and big numbers for shock value.

[@osogrande4999]

@@kabalanstef9636 I’ve told you a billion times stop exaggerating.

[@xenontouchstone]

You love to ise words like " destroy" when in actuality you mean not even address the subject.

[@catherinecook3359]

He just said he believes in God, then he says about bacteria, we had to come from somewhere..?

[@MrMattberry1]

It amazing what people come up with, when they have such little knowedge

[@SillyDeity]

Yes some people may drink from the fount of knowledge.....it seems that evangelicals like this have gargled from the puddle of misleading nonsense

[@toni4729]

And what makes you think there are only one mutation per generation? Look at the changes people have made to animals and vegetables in just the past sixty years. It isn't hard.

[@douglaspaxson]

If we evolved from Tadpoles and Monkeys then why are they still here?

[@brianvell]

Is this a serious question or trolling? First of all, we did not evolve from tadpoles. Second we have not evolved from monkeys, but we share a common ancestor. Finally, if you're here why are your parents and possibly grand parents still around? Speciation is not spontaneous, it occurs in populations and is very gradual.

[@mavrosyvannah]

Get educated if you want those EASY answers.

[@douglaspaxson]

@@mavrosyvannah Answer it if you're so EDUCATED.

[@douglaspaxson]

@mavrosyvannah if dinosaurs went extinct millions of years ago then why has a Celocanth been caught?

[@douglaspaxson]

@@mavrosyvannah very easy answer is evolution is a lie

[@Well-in-the-garden]

I’m not sure he completely understood but he was willing to repent and put his trust in Jesus and so I pray that the Holy Spirit will continue to teach him the truth of what God’s word really means.

[@mountkeen8701]

So you’re saying ignorance is preferable to knowledge. Well well.

[@Well-in-the-garden]

@@mountkeen8701 ​​⁠no I’m not saying that at all. There are many reasons someone mind not understand what someone is saying. As a person with autism I can relate. It often takes me a lot of explanation before I understand what people are saying to me. Only God knows what’s in a person’s heart and he works in us continuously until the very end. There’s no need to try and cause an argument. I didn’t mean it as a negative comment or slur on the gentleman’s character. I just observed from his answers that I don’t think he completely understood what the evangelist was saying. But that’s ok. God speaks to us in different ways, through different people, through his word, through prayer, through signs and wonders. It’s not a big deal. Just an observation.

[@mountkeen8701]

@@Well-in-the-garden Except ignorance is defined as, “lack of knowledge or information”, so it’s exactly what you are saying.

[@Well-in-the-garden]

@@mountkeen8701 knowledge and information are completely different to understanding sorry but I’m just going to have to disagree

[@mountkeen8701]

@@Well-in-the-garden You’re disagreeing with the Oxford English Dictionary

[@marlenepecori2406]

Could it be, that those who don't believe in God / a higher intellect than your own, that way you don't have to be accountable..??

[@tonybarfridge4369]

God's Word of truth is plain for all to see. Genesis relates mankinds' beginning.

[@nathancook2852]

It's plain if you have been indoctrinated by zealots. The rest of us look at real evidnece.

[@Orthosaur7532]

It was never meant to be written as a scientific textbook. It simply wasn't Moses's purpose.

[@osogrande4999]

@@Orthosaur7532 That’s why if you close your eyes and imagine a 3 year old reading it it sounds just like the stuff they invent.

[@tonybarfridge4369]

It was meant to be simple and understandable. It is a basic overview or foreword. More details followed.

[@osogrande4999]

@@tonybarfridge4369 Firstly, it’s nonsensical and fundamentally just childish nonsense, it’s like a youtube click bait title, grandiose sounding but only if you turn off every mental faculty you’ve got.

[@nookymonster1]

So, if someone does happen to prove evolution is false, they would easily win the Nobel Prize. John is not that guy.

[@John75Mulhern]

Why does he use the words "believe in Evolution"? Evolution is not a belief system

[@Thep00psc00p_]

I believe it's a conversational technique to pull the other person down to their level. Same as when they say everyone has faith in an attempt to not have to defend faith itself, but to defend why they have a particular faith in something that not everyone else shares.

[@Adam-rt2ir]

The word has two meanings, it doesn't have to mean a belief system, although a lot of creationists do seem to use this to try to make it seem like evolution is some kind of religious belief.

[@mmaimmortals]

evolution is mythology.

[@Thep00psc00p_]

@@mmaimmortals too bad, it's a proven, observable fact of nature. If you think it's a myth, please reply with this comment:"Modern animals are NOT different than animals of the past." If not, I will assume you have opened your eyes to the truth. Good day.

[@sbgtrading]

Intelligent design is a fact as well... it's not a belief system

[@Thep00psc00p_]

If pizza exists, why is there still non pizza? Checkmate evolutionists.

[@osogrande4999]

@@Thep00psc00p_ I can only assume this marble I found must be yours.

[@marcusdumitru]

It's so funny how this guy throws monkey wrenches into Lee's neat system. Postmodernism at work. Not everything Lee said is self evident. This other guy sounds very perceptive sometimes, but most of the interview he nods politely but inattentive.

[@ifstatementifstatement2704]

Unreasonable people cannot be convinced by proof. They live in their own world, which only God can break.

[@dragankrkelic8953]

Amin Aliluia ❤Thank You Jesus for all of us

[@ifstatementifstatement2704]

The Bible doesn't say we have a spirit. It says we are a soul made up of a body, the mind and the breath of God. We do not have a spirit. We are made of matter and it is the breath of God that gives us life. When we die, the breath of God leaves us and our body is not alive anymore. The breath of God is not our spirit. It is the breath of God.

[@MountKeen]

@@YuelSea-sw2rp In this verse Paul prays that the Thessalonians will be good until Jesus returns, which implies that he expected this to happen within their lifetimes. It clearly didn't.

[@adelinomorte7421]

***MIND YOU PEOPLE, YOU CAN TAKE THOUSANDS OF YEARS AND CAN NOT DESTROY WHAT GOD CREATES AND EVOLUTION WAS ALSO GOD´S CREATION, LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE.***

[@toni4729]

These bible bashers really get up my nose. They think they know more about science by quoting men from sixty/seventy/eighty years ago, when people really didn't know that much. Perhaps he should come back to modern times to see what's going on now.

[@flamesintheattic]

"The bible is a good guide book about how to treat other people.." He must have skipped all the parts that are nasty, vindictive, violent and offensive.

[@Adam-rt2ir]

You mean the slavery, homophobia and murder? I don't know, sounds like traits of a loving God.

[@osogrande4999]

@@flamesintheattic It’s also good if you pretend the god character didn’t simply wash away an entire globe of innocent children in a sustained horrific “weather” attack. If you ignore all that he’s a good guy.

[@Ra1ner9]

LOL im sorry but i can't not laugh with the monke rizz at 7:05

[@ThisDonut]

I am a simple man, I see anti-evolution video i downvote anti-evolution video.

[@v2ike6udik]

simpjew

[@Orthosaur7532]

@@v2ike6udik Racism now, huh?

[@rikomagic2885]

I guess all the scientists and biologists that took years studying for their careers could simply have read the story book instead and saved thousands in student fees. Clearly man on the street thinks he knows more but fails to point out the dark or contradicting parts of the bible. Maybe ask a muslim or other religious person same questions and get totally different views. Least science is consistent. That's lovely

[@toni4729]

God loved the human race and everything, every creature and plant that HE wiped out the whole bloody lot, with the exception of good ol' Noah and his kin.

[@1754Me]

Jesus came as the long-awaited and promised Messiah. Jesus came to establish God's Kingdom as told in Daniel 2:34-35, 44-45. The first recorded words of Jesus' ministry are "Fulfilled! The kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the Good News/Gospel." (Mk 1:15). Jesus' entire ministry was about setting up God's Kingdom as seen in the 4 Gospels where "kingdom" is mentioned over 125 times; more than any other topic. The word "Christ" is the Greek word for the Hebrew word "Messiah" which means "Anointed One". Anointed for what? Anointed to be King as seen in Luke 23:2 ("We found this man misleading our nation...and saying that he himself is Christ, a king."). When asked, Jesus said that his "kingdom is not of this world," (Jn 18:36) and "unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God" (Jn 3:3). Even after he came back to life, Jesus continued "speaking about the kingdom of God," (Acts 1:3) until he was seen going through the clouds where he went at sat down on His throne in heaven (Acts 1:9 & Dan 7:13-14). Jesus has all authority in heaven and on the earth. Those that love Jesus and obey His commands have entered into His Kingdom (1 Pet 2:9 & Rev 1:5-6). Those that don't enter His Kingdom are considered His enemy and will be dealt with appropriately on the Last Day when the King returns. The Gospel is Jesus is King and you can be part of His kingdom. Jesus' disciples (including Paul) continued to speak about and demonstrate His Kingdom. "The kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking but of righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirt" (Rom 14:17) and is characterized by love. Come, enter Jesus' Kingdom by loving the King and being obedient to the King's commands.