Watch Review: Making Peace With Junghans

[@p.9608]

A bit more about Junghans around 1900s: At this time Junghans was one of the most hated brands out there and got a very bad reputation, especially by clockmakers. At this time there was a Watch an Clock crisis because of the cheap industrial mass production. Around this time were a lot of very good quality Brands like Gustav Becker, Pfeilkreuz and so on killed. Junghans bought them cheap, transferred the technology to their own factories and then Junghans left the weak companies go bankrupt. A lot of peoples lost their jobs at this time. Junghans did this procedure few times with some companies. Sry for my bad English, unfortunately this is not my native language.

[@tonycollard4185]

Hello Tim, your videos are always really interesting and refreshing! Keep up the good work! My Mother is German and some time ago I inherited my German Opa's Junghans. It is an original 1960s Max Bill styled Junghans with a J93S1 movement. Sadly however, the balance was broken and I couldn't enjoy its timekeeping, so it just sat in a drawer collecting dust. Since I can remember, watches have been a passion of mine and since 15 years I learnt to service and repair watches, as a hobby. I never forgot my Grandfather's watch and it was always my intention to have it working again, so I sourced a replacement balance and gave the watch a complete clean and service. It now runs and looks beautifully and when I wear it, it is an incredibly nostalgic feeling. Very special indeed. To think that he chose this watch and he would wind the same mainspring that I wind to have it ticking away and he would look at the same hands and dial that I do to read the the time. It is amazing how watches do this. Schöne GrűBe aus England.

[@Sena-co1ug]

Peter Gietl A great story indeed. I will be the first generation to start a tradition of heirloom in my family, and hopefully, I can extend a part of myself and the times I will have lived in, into the future.

[@otobotrecords]

From 1956 to 2000 Junghans was owned by Diehl. My mom worked for Diehl, so she had the privilege to purchase most of the watches for pretty good deals... the whole family was equipped with Junghans (mostly Quartz) watches of the day. My mom was also working for the department who built the detonators for a period of time. She and her colleagues all got very uncomfortable and upset when it became public that the detonators they built were being used in Gulf War I. They striked and refused to continue to work on the detonators until the department was dissipated by the group. Who knows who continued to build those detonators.

[@duncanedwards7840]

That's fair enough, I guess, but really, what did they think that detonators would ultimately be for? apart from maybe mining industry aswell. Commendable actions though ✌

[@morrissey07]

absolutely love the max bill mechanical hand wind watch.

[@axelfrisch]

There was an interesting article about Junghans in FAZ (unfortunately in German, not a problem for Tim, but maybe for some others) yesterday, worth a read!

[@johnpark9742]

My next would likely be Junghans Max Bill 38mm with Sapphire crystal. I love those curvature crystal, dial case and pins. Such a unique product

[@josephknecht4272]

Very nice sports coat and outfit. Also, it is refreshing to see watch companies like Junghans reviving smaller and classier watches.

[@epicunderstament867]

The movement of the automatic makes a loud sound when the rotor moves. I really like the design though. Good dressy everyday watch

[@martinfuhs8955]

The handwound max bill junghans movement is based on the ETA 2801-2.

[@CasebackWatches]

Ooops, sorry then, my bad.

[@martinfuhs8955]

No Problem. The 2824 is always an automatic movement.

[@Yoshikaable]

Thank you for actually learning about these in person. Many KZbinrs are reading off Wikipedia and using press photography

[@turboZ3]

the junghans max bill looks very clean and even crispier and cooler in real life. I'm on the fence about it it's just too formal looking for me.

[@ljr35]

Good video, I own the dark version of the 34mm hand-wind, I don't wear it all that often but I love it when I do - doubt I will ever sell it.

[@Skap91]

Contemplating purchasing this same one, is it worth it ? You have any pictures you could send me

[@timschubardt]

Great video. I like the Moonphase watch from the Junghans Meisterstück Collection.:)

[@heikowallauer]

I really like the Junghans Meister Driver Chronoscope. Unique Design, and no Daytona/Speedmaster-Rip Off. I wore a Junghans from the 70s for a long time, unfotunatly at some point it stoped working and I couldn't find a watchmaker to get it running again.

[@marcoalberts8841]

Live in Florida, not Miami but Sarasota, and truly enjoyed this fascinating review of watch history.

[@williammiller8317]

Both very nice watches, and thanks for giving the prices Tim. So many videos fail to mention the cost of a particular watch, also the websites sometimes don't list prices from the manufacturers. Not sure why...

[@klaatuprime2]

That's not the MSRP though. The retail price on the chronograph is more like $2200.

[@Floodland-bn3ol]

This Max Bill style reminds me of a 1950s stop watch. Some used a sans serif font as well.

[@jamiemoore2550]

Great video tim ido like the chronoscope, nearly caught up aswell

[@scottparis6355]

There are many kinds of detonators, but some are watches that need to withstand the huge G forces of being shot out of a cannon and then time accurately to tiny fractions of a thousandth of a second. So, a very high level of horology, you could say.

[@austingavins9181]

Hi Tim, cracking video and really enjoyed looking at the Junghans. Can I just ask, you state that the Manual Wind uses the ETA 2824 at 8:40 - is the ETA 2801 the manual wind version of the 2824? Also, do you know why Junghans omitted the sub second register off the Chronoscope - it seems an odd choice to leave the "complication" off if they are using the Valjoux/ETA 7750? If its for symmetry on teh dial, why not leave the Day/Date off also? Thanks again - the "Breasts" comment made me smile :)

[@martyinoregon8543]

It's great to learn more about German aesthetic in watch design..... from a German! I've been hearing other channels mention you with high regard. Well done! See you next week! Cheers

[@AbdulRWatches]

I Didn't know that Junghans was from the Black Forest, I am living there. I had two vintage early watches from Junghans and both are great, love their new designs as well. Thanks, Tim for the great video.

[@crappyluxurypdx]

I'd like to see you review a Muhle Glashutte Teutonia III, a Tutima Grand Flieger Classic, and a Tutima Grand Flieger Airport. Thanks, Tim.

[@blazinmark1]

Crappy Luxury buy a Rolex! And when you do, will you be allowed to comment!

[@blazinmark1]

@@Hans-Georg_Buddne if you want to see the state of my current collection look up my gram

[@blazinmark1]

@@Hans-Georg_Buddne eddiehura

[@fv4851]

I would like to add something about Junghans during the Second World War. They not only made watches for the military, but also time fuses for bombs. I know this because my grandmother had to work there as part of the "Reich Labour Service".

[@oscargustavoarcosruiz8793]

Humm ... Manufactured by a company that also manufactures detonators; German; WWII; humm ... Is not this the perfect watch for James Bond? The Chronoscope that you show in this video is just the Junghans that I want to have, it is beautiful.

[@MaleGolfer]

Great video, as always, Tim. I like your style. I will probably get that 34mm hand wind in the future. I've had my eye on that for a while.

[@volcanicash4893]

"She has the tendency to destroy my watches with water" (uttered through clenched teeth) Tim, you're fucking hilarious, man. Love the channel.

[@CasebackWatches]

A pleasure to deliver some comedy! ;-) But true comedy!

[@MrPleers]

So Junghans making wristwatches for 100 years this year. Time for a special edition. Love that understated look.

[@josetula7716]

What is your opinion on Graf Zeppelin and Iron Annie watches?

[@pedrosaenz2800]

German watches are always good options. Laco, Nivrel and Sinn are good manufaturers. Lange und Söhne manufatures wolds top class luxury watches. Danke fuer den Bericht.

[@VersedNJ]

Looking ythe Max Bill (not Chrono) and Stowa Antea 39mm, it does come with sapphire, and more expensive. Like the Chrono but have a few and want to save a few.

[@ihabkahnung]

hm, nochmal, die idee mit der leuchtmasse auf der zeiger hinterseite find ich auch sehr scharf. bei den mondaines, mein ich.

[@MrBacchus18]

Last year I bought an automatic Max Bill white face, no date with the arabic numbers for $500. I find it underwhelming in most ways (not bang for buck as you say) but I love the classic design, doubt I'll flip it.

[@TheRacerRich]

I always thought Junghans was just a name slapped on some watches to make them seem authentic without meaning anything, I had no idea of the brand history. With watches in this price category, I wish manufacturers were more transparent with country of origin, so I could know is it actually made in Germany or is it a chines case, dial, strap, matched with a German movement so it can say "made in Germany" on it, as the Swiss makers sometimes do.

[@jamesdonabed7995]

The 34 mm watch does not have the ETA 2824. That’s an auto movement. The base caliber is the ETA 2801. Great video.

[@CasebackWatches]

James, thanks for the correction!

[@duncanidaho2130]

I like the black one, but not the price for a watch with plexiglass.

[@williamparker2922]

Great video and review. I have the 027/3502.00 (Auto. White dial with tan strap, no date). It's a great watch overall, but since it's a no date and the watch essentially uses the 2824-2... There is a ghost position where the date change would be, when you pull out the crown. It really bugs me that Junghans would release a watch with a ghost position on the crown. I mean seriously, how much more would it cost to either uses a no date movement or gut the date parts out of the 2824-2 they use and then use a modified crown, so that there is no ghost position when you put out the crown. I just don't understand Junghans oversight on this issue.

[@JavierMoser]

Hello William. I have the same 027/3500 (Auto. White dial black strap, no date). I bother too much that JUNGHANS uses the same movement with the date inside. At 7pm I can hear the date change inside. This is not acceptable for a serious watchmaker. Anyway, I really love the watch. It´s just perfect besides of that problem.

[@trdi]

I liked these watches enough some time ago that I was looking into perhaps purchasing one. However if I remember correctly none of the models use sapphire glass. It's just a no go for me, especially with such dome designs.

[@magnustillmann]

This year Junghans released the max Bill collectiin with Saphire Glass and my watchdealer sad If you Had an old max Bill you can swap to Saphire If you want to

[@Oliveiragfak]

Just starting to watch this video but didn’t want to forget to tell you to listen to Fapy Lafertin album Fleur de Lavande it has a lot todo with guitar swing gypsy and fado . I enjoy very much your channel and it’s different style and approach of the watches world.

[@CasebackWatches]

Fapy is a huge inspiration for me! Thumbs up, Miguel!

[@eugenenakamura]

15:57 Minor pet peeve here: the Chronoscope looks like the hour hand is too far ahead by a couple minutes. It looks like it's already past the 9 o'clock marker before the minutes has reached 12. It might be the angle in which the watch is resting, though. Maybe just an optical illusion.

[@the_9ent]

Love the Max Bill. On my wish list. Also loving that shark style jacket 👌

[@tinymotogarage]

Great channel, new sub. I'll look into these more - I'm very interested in German watchmaking (Sinn EZMe and Laco"B" on my shopping list). Not a fan of the dial in this Chrono - very hard to see, but the design is very good.

[@CasebackWatches]

Thanks for the subscription. You will find many German watches on this channel, also in the more recent videos. (I do not dare to watch this Junghans vid again because its one of my earliest ;-)

[@jet-settingrogue761]

These are lovely watches. Love the Telemeter as well. Always enjoy your videos Tim. Nice suit btw.

[@GayMafia97]

i dont really get whats the point of buying a quarts max bill ???? automatic or in the trash

[@inmyopinion_3672]

The only thing that keeps me from buying one is the acrylic crystal and the low water resistance. I'd just destroy the watch in short order. I love the designs.

[@Mimi127]

They now offer sapphire replacement, but yeah I mean the water resistance is not great, so this is more of a dress watch

[@joeelder8526]

Unfortunately having a large wrist small sub 38mm do not look great on me but love the refinement and simplicity of the design. When are we going to learn more of your back story?

[@Matt-if6gs]

Excellent review Tim, thank you. Your non-American perspective on Junghans is very enlightening, specifically that it is, or at least was, an "average watch your neighbor could also have." (Paraphrasing you, I hope you don't mind.) Living in the U.S., I've never seen anyone wearing one. That gives me the perception that they are more upscale. Interesting to think about. By the way, what watch were you wearing during this video? I'd like to know.

[@CasebackWatches]

Thanks for watching, Matt. That was a french diver - "Landeron" - on a generic mesh. My summer watch back then. I've flipped the watch later that year.

[@seven921914]

Really starting to dig these watches, kinda worried about the water resistance though.

[@CasebackWatches]

I think they are designed as dress watches for an office job. So I wouldn't test it out.

[@z_actual]

the first reminds me of a flieger pilots watch by its markings and that it is hackable, although thats a characteristic of the ETA 2824 movement, still that was a choice that had to be made

[@tonypalmer3483]

Your watch reviews are the best Tim, just seen this one for the first time. Been looking at Junghans for a long time but if I buy a 34mm hand wind I prefer vintage.

[@Robbe1984]

I think the Chronoscope is a really beautiful watch. I just wonder how it would sit on me since I'm a pretty big guy wearing 44-47 mm watches

[@CasebackWatches]

It wears rather small, so could be a problem.

[@ihabkahnung]

well, now i have 2 max bills, so you wont hear me say they are ugly. the straps suck a bit, but that is not a problem. but, what really drives me crazy is that you can set the date on the no date variant of the watch. pull out the crown to pos 1 and set it. you feel it, you hear the clicks, but, no date window. thats a bit lame. but really good watches at a perfect pricepoint.

[@CasebackWatches]

Really? I haven't noticed that with the Max Bill in the video, but pretty clear with a Laco Flieger from another video.

[@ihabkahnung]

@@CasebackWatches 027/3500.00, das is die no date automatic bei ders so ist :) afaik was max bill mostly designing clocks not so much watches, thats why i thought of the Bahnhofsührlis. and he would have killed people for the date window or the chronoscope, i am pretty sure.

[@thomashendrick6711]

Really enjoy your videos, very well done in over all subject matter coverage and always interesting!:]

[@CasebackWatches]

Glad to hear that, thank you!

[@ihabkahnung]

ah, btw, die schweizer bahnhofsuhr wär vllt ein interessantes thema. modaine heissen die glaub ich.

[@dgb6355]

Inappropriate contents in your vids?? I am surprised at that. Nice vid as always.

[@oscarmadison8530]

Tim,do you have any idea regarding how much the servicing costs might be,and are the Junghans watches only serviced in Germany?

[@CasebackWatches]

Good question! Maybe another viewer knows this? If not i‘ll ask the watchmaker next week.

[@chinaman1]

I bought 2 max bills, an men's automatic and a ladies self-winding watch for my brother and his fiancee. then I decided to get a junghans chronoscope for myself, but the buttons for the chronograph is so bad... when you try to press it, it will feel like it gets caught by something and you need to press harder to start it. Feels so badly produced. I have seen fake watches with better quality. I have a Parnis Daytona Homage watch and it feels better than the chronoscope...

[@roydoorenspleet1548]

Informative and gorgeous watches. Thank you for the video

[@CasebackWatches]

Thank you for watching!

[@geroldatlarge1841]

Thanks Tim. Next? Sinn please. Vielen Dank.

[@normanpedersen5454]

Top notch as usual! I love the Max Bill - just can't hang w/ acrylic - vintage or not.

[@jacksonmay153]

bought the ladies version for my wife. It's really beautiful and elegant.

[@briancarpenter1255]

Great video. I believe that it is a ETA 2801 on the Max Bill hand winding watch not ETA 2824 which would be the auto version.

[@CasebackWatches]

Correct. My mistake, sorry.

[@locutusdborg126]

They are nice but missed the opportunity to have transparent casebacks even if the finishing isn't great.

[@imranchowdhury4972]

The only drawback of the chronoscope to me is you will never never be able to find out if the power runs out because there is not a single indication.

[@trevbarlow9719]

True for almost every single watch.

[@bigc208]

Not if they have a secondhand that constantly runs.

[@Tomasz0216]

Loving the vid! Tissot and Hamilton are very popular in the USA but maybe wanna do some videos on the other Swatch brand midentry Swiss brands like Mido or Certina? Very few reviews about them here in the USA. I am loving my Certina DS-4 Small seconds wave pattern dial I purchased recently!

[@thomasosullivan902]

What is the watch you're wearing during the video?

[@CasebackWatches]

That was a french dive watch, sold under the borrowed name "Landeron". The look was cool though.

[@williamevans9426]

Many thanks - you're always informative, entertaining and totally honest! (What more could one ask?)

[@Ninja_S1000RR-R]

Could you please review the latedt TGV x Watchbox video?

[@oklahomahank2378]

Very well made video. Excellent camera work and sound. If I may, the word “simplistic” has a negative connotation. It suggests “falsified by making overly simple.” Just “simple” is better. I do understand that many English speakers use “simplistic” without these negative meanings. I suppose the meaning of the word is changing.

[@CasebackWatches]

Thank you. I wasn‘t aware of that

[@derbywinner5423]

Agreed with your girlfriend . the watch color band does not goes well with it. By the way I do have a Junghas and I changed the bands 😁

[@adamzid8574]

Junghans , yes yes yes

[@andrew_owens7680]

Your suit is gorgeous. I like your style.

[@louis6720]

"If you live in Miami and you are used to seeing heavy hitters..." CRM Jewellers reference? LOL

[@brentcapley]

I live in Miami. What are you saying about that jeweler

[@perigee17]

If they use sapphire for the crystal, I will definitely buy one

[@hugohugo37]

I can't imagine what the inappropriate content was in your other video- you review watches .

[@gaga1812]

Good one Tim! thank you

[@SixthGlory]

I need help finding AD in Australia. Can please someone help

[@cedarcanoe]

I have 2 Junghans watches. Watches are great value and quality. But the straps 🤬, they need to rethink about the straps they put on their watches: 1) the colours often are nor appealing 2) the had stiff leather makes them wear really bad

[@reviewyup592]

I can buy a max bill just so that I will have that beautiful 4.

[@clairecava9065]

Nice !!! Wish I have one of these

[@kailimedia]

Do the numbers illuminated

[@Jute511]

Oof, the black one is gorgeous.

[@markphillips2072]

See you brought out some Heavy Hitters today lol. Think when Eric says that he's talking the language that's for a guy's that can spend a 100.000 thousand on a watch an there ego's .

[@seanengel3647]

Nice suit!

[@CasebackWatches]

Thanks!

[@PiersC]

I live in Miami, am used to seeing heavy hitters, and this is not my watch :-) Still love your content though.

[@CaptCanuck4444]

Valjoux 7750, not ETA

[@guysimpson8300]

Ich mag Junghans.

[@fpostolache]

Why to be in war with a company that made history ?! They were the biggest clock makers and their watches are beautiful, especially the white deal chronoscope. Great history and great value for the collector. Anyhow you cannot get rich by reselling watches: you buy them for your own pleasure.

[@yeahk241]

7:53 Anyone know what watch he's wearing on his wrist?

[@CasebackWatches]

I do ;-) Landeron Super Compressor on a generic mesh. French microbrand.

[@yeahk241]

@@CasebackWatches Thanks for the hasty reply! Didn't expect an answer from the man himself, feels like I've just met a celebrity. I'm a big fan of the broad arrow hands as well as the markers on that piece.

[@jarodstevens2710]

Great video Tim, great watches, but you still never answered the question do you still find junghans boring??lol

[@CasebackWatches]

Here it is: No, not boring ;-)

[@jarodstevens2710]

@@CasebackWatches Lol!! Thanks tim🙂 love your Channel sir🤘

[@anthonyiodice]

Black Forest Ham watches! In all seriousness, I’m surprised the straps aren’t made of pig leather.

[@johnbarclay88]

I have been looking at the Max Bill for years (I'm not very decisive) but was finally getting close to a decision. However, it seems that I have to choose between quartz with date, or automatic without date. Much as I appreciate the technical wizardry of automatic watches vs. quartz, I frankly don't want the hassle of resetting the watch every time I haven't worn it for a few days. (I also find the term "automatic" somewhat ironic since one thing it does automatically is stop if not worn.) But on the other hand, I don't want the dial messed up with a date box! So, back to square one!! The price difference (retail in Hong Kong) is about US$300 with the simpler design on the automatic at around US$850, vs. quartz with date at around 550US$ Frankly, I'd rather pay the higher price to have the simpler design in quartz.

[@gitargr8]

The biggest reason I prefer a mechanical watch to a quartz is battery replacement. I have a drawer full of dead quartz watches, whereas my autos can all be spun up to be functional relatively quickly (even moreso for the autos that can be hand wound). Setting the watch, even with a day/date, can be done fairly quickly once you get the hang of it. Obviously it's all your preference at the end of the day, and an Eco Drive watch would totally solve my battery issue, but for me its autos only here on out. But if you don't mind taking your watch to the jeweler once a year, then get it in quartz; looks identical, way better price.

[@johnbarclay88]

@@gitargr8 Thanks. I will likely now go for the automatic and get the design I prefer. I will also then try to appreciate more the engineering of the automatic.

[@Manuel0304]

Hi, Sehr cooles Video. Grüße aus dem Saarland

[@chinaman1]

My issue with the Junghans chronometer is the buttons. When you press it, it feels cheap and poorly made. I mean even a seiko chronograph feels better than that at a much lower price... Otherwise I really like their max bill and bought a pair for my brother and his fiancée. As they are both Germanophile. I am one myself and had actually considered the max bill for myself, but I decided my grail German watch will be a glashutte watch. Either glashutte original or A lange and sohne. Or if I'm still gonna be poor 10years from now, then a Nomos

[@idid1866]

Honestly, if I had to choose between Nomos or Junghans...I'd go for Junghans! The quality is present in both brands, but Interesting history and experience is more important to me!

[@davidc5191]

Lack of a bezel makes the watches look bigger than they are.

[@Mosrmosr993]

Great

[@Mentis-de]

"It's not super pricy"....shows 1700€ price tag. Overexpensive for such a simple watch if you ask me and i am german too ;-)

[@PhilipPStanil]

❤

[@lolvuzedrago]

Max bill only needs a sapphire crystal to be perfect sub 2000€ watch

[@petermeter5363]

That is actually the nice thing about it. Changing it costs really less. So u have a total new one.

[@jstrat121]

I read somewhere that Hitler wore a Junghans watch.......I can not verify that though.

[@CasebackWatches]

Possible. Most dictators have entire collections.

[@jstrat121]

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[@jstrat121]

Kidding aside.......here is were I saw it mentioned kzbin.info/www/bejne/eF7Vg52firyHZqc

[@Daavi85]

I've actually read in a few different articles that Hitler owned an A Lange & Sohne as they were known even back then to be some of the finest German watches, though I can't verify 100%