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[@allondog]

This bloke is an absolute legend. Straight up professional 🫵😎

[@AlmightyBigD001]

When I rebuilt my deck, I had seen previous videos of yours showing the Camo system and the trick using a board as leverage to manipulate the deck boards. I did the entire deck my self from demo to finish and the leverage trick was a game changer. It helped so much!! Oh, and I LOVE the Camo system!

[@shauntoochaos235]

When I saw it I figured yeah that's great bu5 I dont want to buy a $500 tool I use once. Turns out it's $50 and $100 for screws. Seems like an easy choice

[@jasongreen6842]

Love your videos and ability to teach and not be annoying whatsoever Thanks 😊

[@pcodignoni9344]

I’ve never seen joint tape used before. What a great idea!!😊

[@dongarrett7595]

Just had a guy tear off my 30 old deck and build new with the Camo screws. Love the way it looks without the screws showing. He never worked with the screws before and liked the finished look. I had him picture frame around the deck so the edges would not be seen, but I did not let him screw the center boards down because I wanted to sand the edges and make sure they were laying the correct way to avoid the cupping and splintering you talked about here and other videos. Something contractors don't figure for that kind of detail in their quote so I didn't want to pay him extra to do that. I used 20 foot pressure treated for a 20 foot deck. Not the easiest thing to handle ut it looks great. Although I do want to replace some boards that have too many deep knots or have separation that you talked about Thanks for the additional information!

[@cresto7385]

Been watchin ya for a while and you are by far my favorite DIYer on KZbin. Keep up the great work!

[@Findyoursoul777]

Thank you. Nice video top tradesmen very honest keep it real enjoy watching your videos

[@MBMCincy63]

Awesome planing that to be level! you give easy to listen to instructions! thank you. shivering black bell thumbs up!

[@alexandrealbergaria6224]

wish i could be jeff's friend - i love how "he is one of us" and he is always out of breath like we all do! haha we love you jeff!

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

LOL. working on getting in better shape but yeah, working in the summer outside is still hard work no matter what shape you are in.

[@alexandrealbergaria6224]

@@HomeRenoVisionDIY you do it just perfect man, no fake posts, no pretending - all simple and easy to follow! Thats why we all watch you! Keep going :)

[@Findyoursoul777]

We all make mistakes he's honest and don't make out he's perfect 👌 enjoy your painting videos Helpful tips.

[@504daron]

Dude YOU Rockin it..thanks so much!

[@knoxlowe1]

I like the way you use your speed square as a spacer for the deck boards. I've always made my spacers from some 2" x 6" drop pieces and drive some nails through them. The nail is the spacer and the 2" x 6" piece keeps it from falling through the gap. The width of the space depends on the nail size. I usually use a 10d or 16d but I've sometimes even used 20d.

[@curry1457-d5u]

Amazing stuff from Jeff, such a clever guy.

[@curry1457-d5u]

Thanks Jeff, I've done a lot of joinery work decking ect, just through watching your Video's ! your an asset to KZbin ! that decking job your doing is going to be Amazing.

[@xFrozenxSnowx]

Built my deck with my dad in 2020. Wish this video was available back then😂😂😂 so many little things that could've made the deck look much nicer. Didn't even know about Camo screws😅

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

I have been using them for almost 15 years now. I don't use anything else. Cheers!

[@WishintobeFishin]

Love Jeff’s fire sound 😂

[@PrivateUsername]

I hope the bug at 33:11 is living his/her best life on, or under, that sweet new deck.

[@davidrush8283]

You can tie a plastic bag to the string take a vacuum to one end of pipe turn in on put bag with line in other end of pipe and it will fish the line in pipe.

[@b_uppy]

That's a great idea.

[@nevinleiby]

Im not following. Could you explain more?

[@b_uppy]

@@nevinleiby It's easy to suck a 'balloon' with a string to thread a line thru a pipe.

[@nevinleiby]

@@b_uppy gotcha. Nice!

[@b_uppy]

@@nevinleiby It is clever, isn't it?

[@nanikuun728]

"do not let that come in contact with any part of your body"😂 that always the plan

[@Rebel1280]

Dang, im putting my deck in now (thanks to your videos for the know how and motivation) and i'd been using a strap to tighten some of these boards. well, you can imagine as a 16' deck goes, the strap is getting hard and hard to mount lol, glad i saw this lever board idea!

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Happy to Help. Cheers!

[@RES_Plumbing-Drain]

Show us in a video please it would be interesting to see, how a deck build with camo system looks after about 5 years, if all holds up well.

[@kyrellosekladious9828]

Hey buddy Great videos and perfect every time Quite question Can I use that camo device with pressure treated decking boards ?

[@ohandanotheronebitesthedus6247]

Wish i had watched this i layed my deck like laminate flooring lol but finished the outside with a nice trim mitred and and router finish

[@user-fy9lm1gi6r]

I may of missed it in the comments. I love the channel, learning alot! And inspiring me to seek out more. But in this deck are joist hangers not needed? I am working on a deck right now. Also is there a reason why you dont use composite decking? I am going to be installing around 600ft of composite decking. Was hoping you had a video on it. Thanks!

[@geoffbutton3544]

Question for Jeff please, I'm in the UK and building my deck. The longest side is 25 feet long, and I want a frame edge on all 4 sides. I can't get boards that long. What is the best way to put 2 ends together please? Straight butt to butt or angle cut 2 and seal the ends? Many thanks keep making these video's they are super informative.

[@johnsmith-qz4bv]

going to be a nice deck to sit and have a beer around the fire..

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

got that right. Cheers!

[@-ray-h]

Nice...

[@kevbarty2081]

Do you have plans for this deck build? I've watched the first video twice now, and still can't grasp the 'box beam'. Hoping a pic would make sense to me. Hoping to build a similar deck this summer in AB

[@offroad-adventure]

Wish I could hire you here!

[@audriannac8689]

I watched this deck build in addition to the one day deck build, but I need some help with what kind of deck I should build considering my area. I live in the California mountains with hard ground that's terrible for digging (going to use deck cement blocks, instead of digging as much as possible). The area I'm building the deck is on a gradual slope, gets a lot of sun, and given the high winds and snow, I know it's going to take a beating. Given this information, would building a deck directly on the highest part of the ground and lifting it where the slope begins until it's level, work? In case it matters- I don't mind if it's not the most beautiful deck, I just want it to be functional and last through the snowy winters.

[@danielsingh5438]

Hi Jeff. Love your videos.. it has given me enough confidence to build a deck this year! Question: besides the hurricane ties used to keep the frame square and connected to the boxes below….. is the frame connected to the boxes any other way? Did I miss something? Thanks in advance

[@therealapractor1927]

your videos are very informative, THANK YOU! Is it posible to remove boards from the deck if necessary, that were installed using the Camo system?

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

sure thing. just cut right down the middle and pry them loose. Cheers!

[@jamshid278]

@@HomeRenoVisionDIY Thank you!

[@justinsgarage1125]

Am I missing something? Definitely intrigued by the camo system but is it just one screw per 16 inches that holds the board down? No top screws? Nothing in the other side? I was assuming at least 2 screws per joist to hold the deck board down, not just one on the side.

[@normandfontaine5508]

Hi Jeff, tank’s for your videos ! I learn a lot. Can you tell me where you buy the rectangular plastic that you put between the rectangular exhaust fan and the window when you are sanding joints to exit the dust? I saw that in your other video. I am sorry, my english writing is not very good. Tank’s

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

It is actually a round tube. I get it from a local restoration supply wholesaler. it is called lay flat ducting for a phoenix air exhaust system. Cheers!

[@marjoriejudge5348]

the stain you did on the back fence looks great - will there be a privacy screen on one side for separation from next door neighbors ?

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

video coming soon. Cheers!

[@dougliberman]

Where are you getting green pressure treated lumber? I’m in Quebec and I can only find brown.

[@orileclerc4630]

Would I be able to space my joist a 20 inch horizontal on 10ft h by 20ft w using 2x8x10 divided by on 10ft w (floating deck)

[@commonabond]

Jeff, on the previous video I thought you said 2x8s could span 8' but you said 12' in this video. Which is correct?

[@Superalex025]

What kind of wood you use on this deck? 😊

[@Thephoenix.777]

where you get that brown P T wood in us?,what store?

[@joanrempel]

well seems the Camo tool is discontinued, why? Found one here in Regina, Saskatchewan however.

[@mightymikee1]

now I'm confused, one guy said on his video to install the deck boards smile up and you say install rainbow. im going to use 2x6 for my deck top with the CAMO system

[@barrymccaulkiner7092]

What's the story with home prices in Canada?

[@gabrielschmerler158]

Question for Jeff. I am renovating my bathroom in my 100 year old house. When I took off the old tile off the floor I discovered the original beautiful porcelain hex shaped tile that with some TLC I think I can restore it to look like it was put in yesterday. The floor also had these thick porcelain curved baseboards around the perimeter of the bathroom floor. I had to take those out because they were in bad shape. When I took out the porcelain baseboard I discover there was something that looks like a roughly 3 inch cement or maybe mortar sub floor poured on the floor. In removing the baseboard some the crumbling baseboard came out and I need to fill it in, however some of the area has a bit of exposed wood. I know its not a good idea to pour cement over wood so I am looking for the best solution to level this gap around the perimeter of my bathroom so I can get it up to level ? really appreciate your video any advice would be appreciated.

[@evictioncarpentry2628]

Cover the wood with Tuck Tape and pour cement in it to level it.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

just use wax paper or a sill gasket to isolate the pour of the cement. Cheers!

[@TruongNguyen-te3gy]

Building a deck is easy , but the hard part is to find decent looking woods now a day. Went to Home Depot and Lowe’s and return empty. Woods either crooked, not straight, cracked, all kind of problem. I gave up

[@ldd9672]

Do u recommend stain the deck? Pros and cons?

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

always. video coming soon.

[@DanielJohnson-ry9ik]

I’ve seen several comments on this video Other than there being several very nice ideas on this deck system Has there been any one that has noticed how bad out of square that framing is

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

the framing is square to the house.. it is the fencing that is out.

[@YellowBunchofBananas]

Was soft copper in ABS selected instead of black iron for the gas for cost reasons?

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

if there is no exposure to possible damage then saving time and money is a good thing.

[@lynnenyman4450]

Question for Jeff or anyone who has used the camo system on PT wood. My soon to be built deck is on the south side, is my main entrance, will suffer -35 in winter to +35 in summer. I’m wondering about splitting of the deck boards over time, since the screw seems near the edge of the board. Anyone have problems with splitting? Thanks in advance.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

no worries lynn. the screw is designed to be self boring so it won't split the wood. your best defence is a sealer stain with uv protection applied once a year. Cheers!

[@doubledragon9530]

Oh, I need some help. A "friend" got me into some trouble on a bathroom remodel, then split before completing the job. When I looked into what he had done, there were some serious problems with a wall he modified making it structurally unsound. I think I know how to fix it, but I would like your opinion. Could I send you a photo to show you what I'm talking about? btw I'm a new DIY member, though I've been watching and liking your videos for about a year.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Yes, I am back from vacation now and catching up on the forum. Cheers!

[@doubledragon9530]

@@HomeRenoVisionDIY Hope your vacation was great. How can I get a photo to you?

[@gerryclark4330]

Jeff, any particular reason you didn’t use that tape on the joists ?

[@b_uppy]

Good question.

[@ThePlockets]

I believe he mentioned why he was only using the tape on the wider spans on the ends (where he was doing his perpendicular portrait deck boards) in his box beaming video. IIRC he only did it in spots where there was a possibility of water pooling under the wood, and for most of the framing, there are only 1.5" wide spans facing upwards, where pooling shouldn't be an issue.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

I find it a waste of money in an area with no trees. simply wash out any organics once a year and you are fine. for areas with plenty of trees use it on all joists or clean the gaps weekly. Cheers!

[@BaerrusMagnus]

That fence that was just stained looks quite blotchy. What went wrong, Jeff?

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

not sure what you mean. but for sure all stain work looks better on new wood. the sun will balance that out in time.

[@diabolox1272]

What happens if you don't treat the cuts on treated wood ? I clean it with water pressure every year....

[@atodaso1668]

The wood will rot faster since the water can soak into the wood.

[@splanzza]

What am I missing! ABS for a gas line? Or is “the gas guy” going to pull some sort of a flexible hose through it, and if so what flexible gas piping is that long? 👀

[@TheGibby13]

Yes it is a flex pipe, similar to ones used in the house for your gas stove but they make them quite a bit longer

[@thomaslongiii3143]

CSST ( HomeFlex, if your shopping at home depot)

[@TapelessDrywallFinishing]

👍👍

[@craigkeene8769]

How is your gas guy going to run pipe through the conduit with the elbows already glued on. We use black pipe here in NY but you mentioned copper. How can you feed the pipe through the conduit elbows? Jw.

[@thomaslongiii3143]

Probably using CSST

[@craigkeene8769]

@@thomaslongiii3143 also not legal on NY.

[@thomaslongiii3143]

@@craigkeene8769 oh my bad, i didnt realize he was in NY. Or think about it at all for that matter. I just seen what he was doing and have only ever seen it done that way if CSST was being used cause i really dont see how any other type of gas line could be pushed through conduit that is already assembled and glued. Oh well

[@craigkeene8769]

@@thomaslongiii3143 no, lol, I am in NY. I think he's in Canada. I'm just not familiar with Canada code.

[@ThePlockets]

He is from Canada, but he is currently in Florida. I think this was shot in Florida, but I could be wrong if it was shot before he moved.

[@noninoni9962]

Is there code limiting the height of backyard fencing?? That should be raised, too, so your heads can't be seen by every other neighbor -- or you seeing everything the neighbors are doing in their backyards.

[@atodaso1668]

Usually 6 feet is the max allowed

[@TheGibby13]

​@@atodaso1668 agreed that's the code where I am too

[@spennyhenny7680]

Jeff will build a privacy screen and he said in previous videos that if the fence structure is behind the property line (i.e., on the deck in this case) there are no limits to the height of the privacy fence/privacy screen

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

exactly! Cheers!

[@b_uppy]

Your explanation of grain/shim fell short. Would have helped to seen it up close/set in place.

[@ThePlockets]

He meant face the end grain up, just like it was a wall stud. A board is always strongest in the direction of the fibers, which do not easily compress lengthwise, which is why wall studs can bear so much load standing on end like they do.

[@b_uppy]

@@ThePlockets Thank you for the clarification.

[@paulanew4040]

👍🏽

[@danielc6779]

Thanks for the video but you got your wood cupping directions backwards. The board will tend to try to straighten out the rings as it dries. So the smiley face end grain means the board will cup upwards, while the rainbow will cause a hollow in the middle and possibly collect water.

[@matthewrick]

I pointed that out in a comment in another one of his videos before. He replied with something like “agree to disagree”. I’ve observed cupping in the real world and he has it exactly backwards.

[@ThePlockets]

According to Highland Woodworking, flat sawn wood can cup either way, depending largely on how dry it is at installation time, relative to it's environment. Generally, construction lumber is softwood and not yet fully dried out, and tends to cup opposite the bark side (in the same direction as the rings) as it loses moisture. Hardwoods are generally dried out for longer, and thus may cup towards the bark side (opposite the direction of the rings) if it takes in moisture due to it being drier than it's environment. That said, if you live in a wetter climate, it could be that construction lumber tends to be drier than the environment, and would more generally cup towards the bark side, opposite the direction of the rings.

[@sawxpatscelts]

I bet you know more than him 🙄

[@matthewrick]

@@sawxpatscelts man no one said that! We just said that cupping doesn’t always go the way he said it does.

[@shayotero5116]

@@sawxpatscelts haters gonna hate they come in all ages 😁

[@mindmadeover]

Random thought: I'd be kind of upset if I learned you were in my neighborhood and I didn't get a chance to say hi.

[@piffpete420]

Bizarre floating a structural element on blocks with no anchors

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

no different in concept than laying patio stones. Cheers!

[@vinnyf4726]

You don't need a gap. The lumber will shrink on its own.

[@keithusace4352]

That's the truth as everytime I buy decking from Lowes it's so juicy that if you gapped you'd have a man hole cover to fall through once it dries

[@prank9724]

Swell..😌as well

[@prank9724]

Swell..😌as well

[@Iwillnevergrowup]

Tell that to my deck .. apparently it didn't get the memo.

[@prank9724]

@@Iwillnevergrowup poor Lil guy🧐🤭

[@NovaaktheKING]

Bro you are a L E G E N D 🫡👍🏾

[@NelsonSteffens]

First comment!

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Cheers Nelson! Cheers!

[@samuraylast480]

you always out breath .stop eating starch food .am your fan take care yourself we need people like god bless you mannn

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

working on a steak only diet right now and loving the results. Cheers!

[@jimfriend7911]

I just watched you rebuild a deck....cuz of ALOT of the same sub par techniques you are using on this deck.

[@SadikOdoy-hs2jv]

IM km b

[@weekendwarrior3420]

C'mon, taking off 1/2" from a 6" board isn't gonna do anything. How about if you have a 1" knot in the board? All these construction norms account for this kind of minor damage

[@jeffhildreth9244]

I have watched a few of your videos.. you are so creepy, can't watch another.