Watch this before going WideMAXX! Stock Traxxas MAXX tires VS. Pro-Line 10175-10 3.8" LP Trenchers

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The wind really killed how good this video could have been. I took the best of what I had when I
filmed this day to show y'all how bad the stock Traxxas MAXX tires really are.
STATS (LP TRENCHER / MAXX)
TOTAL WEIGHT: 28g / 23g
TIRE WIDTH: 74mm / 71mm
TIRE HEIGHT: 145.5mm / 140mm
OUTER SIDEWALL: 21mm / 30mm
INNER SIDEWALL: 21mm / 20mm
OUTER WHEEL DIAMETER: 96mm / 76mm
INNER WHEEL DIAMETER: 96mm / 96mm
WHEEL WIDTH: 70.5mm / 60mm
OFFSET: Zero / +6.25mm

[@V8chump]

Woah this is the video I needed to see! Nobody makes content like this and I’d be really happy to see more stuff like this! Maybe try comparing shock oil or shock springs side by side? Always hard to tell the difference in those small tune ups but they REALLY change the whole truck.

[@mickeysrc]

That'd be a tough video. Having to rebuild 4 shocks back to back to back to get a comparison video.

[@V8chump]

@@mickeysrc true. But at least it’s only held in by a few screws on the maxx. The real pain would come from waiting for the air to seep out so it’s consistent. But with a couple days and patience it’d make an awesome video

[@jasonphillips4229]

You definitely proved a point that people miss Ive been through so many different different Video's trying to find the perfect setup. Well done sir👏💯

[@rcadventures4342]

Awesome review and video thanks…

[@73cdi]

Just picked up my Maxx. Thanks for the tips. Subscribed!

[@mickeysrc]

It's a super fun truck You're going to love it.

[@gonzodetroitify]

Yes Mickey those prolines have fun fair ride stomach upsetting Grip🧐thank U for this intel😎

[@mickeysrc]

Yes, the stock MAXX tires have stomach upsetting grip :)

[@stevegabriel6982]

Good job, nicely explained, now I see what all the fuss is about. 👍

[@mickeysrc]

Thanks! Yeah, these tires are so soft they just want to grab onto everything like drag racing slicks.

[@yanikgroulx6150]

How do have only 200 subscribers man? I watched a couple of your videos and you deserve way more.

[@mickeysrc]

Thanks, I just started this channel not too long ago. I only put this much work into some of my videos. The rest of them are just me breathing in the mic for an hour talking about what I'm doing haha.

[@robp6442]

Great video, helped with my decision.

[@mickeysrc]

What did you go with? Just the tires? WideMAXX kit too?

[@jgrc73]

Subscribed for thinking outside the box, thanks for your work.

[@mickeysrc]

No, thank you for sub!

[@LeesterFlores]

Hey Mickey! Thanks for the knowledge! Do you have a link on how to change the pinion gear? Or is there a part number for it? Thank you!

[@renercadventures]

Excellent video my friend 😍

[@mickeysrc]

I peeked at your videos. I can't watch them. I'm trying to do everything possible to stop myself from buying a crawler, lol, and your channel is nothing but crawlers. They look like so much fun!

[@renercadventures]

@@mickeysrc 10q🥰👍

[@JustNateMusic]

Nice man. Just purchased some of those belted trenches for my E-Maxx. Looking forward to it. Thanks for the video!

[@mickeysrc]

Do they even fit the E-MAXX? I never had one. Make sure the hex's are 17mm.

[@JustNateMusic]

@@mickeysrc They should. The E-Maxx is bigger. But just in case I bought the 17mm aluminum hex hubs too.

[@mickeysrc]

@@JustNateMusic Oh, nice. I keep forgetting proline has those.

[@tailgator1316]

Perfect thank you for the research, I just ordered a set

[@mickeysrc]

Trenchers are hard to beat. They make them for 1/16, 1/10, and 1/5 as well.

[@RoyFabian]

I actually have both the widemaxx kit and these tires. Had the widemaxx kit since day one but with stock tires. Did ok, but the stock tires just blow up to bits in no time. I put the lp trenchers on and lowered to 22/54 gearing and it's a totally different truck, and the lp trenchers don't explode like the stockers. Also I have a spool in the rear end and thicker shock oil.

[@pewterngold]

Great vid....awesome content comparison. What pinion did you decide to go with since the trenchers are a bit taller? I’d imagine they’re a bit heavier also. Subscribed.

[@allydc8603]

Wow! Do they really make that much difference? I’m so close to getting a Maxx but put of by how many videos show it rolling over! People say get the widemax kit, But clearly these tyres will make a huge difference... Great Video!!!

[@mickeysrc]

Do you normally run on pavement or off-road?

[@allydc8603]

@@mickeysrc Bit of both tbh...

[@mickeysrc]

@@allydc8603 I would do widemaxx and trenchers then.

[@jessevance7083]

Just get both if you can afford it you wont regret it

[@pb-bx1ll]

Great vid really appreciate it. Thank you

[@mickeysrc]

No, thank you for taking the time to comment. It means a lot!

[@tronarat]

Wow! Didn't even think of that

[@mickeysrc]

Yeah, these tires are so soft they hook like drag slicks but sideways which makes the traction rolling so bad on this truck.

[@gregorbajc7292]

Hey Mickey, are Trenchers also good for jumping backfilps and stuff, because original tires do good job here, I also have Louise Pioneer 2.8 MT and all I can do is a half backflip, which sucks. What do you say?😀

[@OllisRCCars]

Great video👍 I subscribed

[@Tegridy_Rc]

I got a set of stock maxx wheels and dremeled off the nubs inside of the hex and then then on my Kraton and they work amazing on that truck with it being so wide and also makes it sit a lot lower

[@mickeysrc]

Yeah, going wide is the only thing that makes these stock MAXX tires usable. I forgot to mention the sidewalls are really thin, just like the XMAXX. Poor tire design overall.

[@cared1695]

Hello, I have Maxx tires on my Redcat Kaiju, and I dont have that problem. 👍

[@wise--men]

5:36 Can you explain which pinion this is? Will the car run at a slower speed or have a weaker torque? I wanted to understand this and I have no other source of knowledge. I'm from Brazil.

[@longboardguy]

That’s an impressive difference! If I ever get a Maxx I’ll probally do this. Although I don’t rarely run on high traction surfaces. Really enjoy your channel so far great job on this channel

[@mickeysrc]

I don't run on high traction surfaces either. I just used the pavement to illustrate the drastic differences. If you primarily run off-road like me Trenchers on stock length arms is a solid setup.

[@mrpants6337]

@@mickeysrc I almost went for the widemaxx kit but glad I held off. My truck is a month old now and I too hate the stock tyres, mainly because they come unglued very easily. I drive 90% of the time on dirt/grass so rollovers are not a problem......more the lack of grip on loose gravel. It is a struggle to keep straight. I just got a set of Trenchers today to try out, at 100 euros they are extremely expensive, almost twice the cost of the widemaxx kit. The widemaxx kit from what I have seen will just introduce a new set of problems however in regards to durability and a new list of upgrades that gets tiresome real quick. This seems to be the best option to stay as stock as possible but fixing the horrible handling. Thanks for the info.......saved me cash.

[@blaketundra3216]

Probably gonna do wide maxx on trenchers

[@integrityrc7356]

Thanks

[@ghost_scatpack4947]

Dope content for sure. I just bought the Maxx a few days ago. If i had seen your vid before I would have just gotten the Trenchers instead of the widemaxx kit. Be that as it may, now Im going with Trenchers and widemaxx kit, what pinion do you suggest for on and off road bashing?

[@justthatoneguy2175]

So I have the trenchers belted, you seem to not have any steering problems, such as limited turning, is it because of the belted tires or I need a stronger servo?

[@jordanv3866]

thanks for the comparison man! these will most likely be my next upgrade for my max. quick question, since they're a harder compound do they balloon less than the stocks?

[@Speedslays]

widemaxx kit is cheaper then buy the trenchers. are the trenchers alot lighter then stock??

[@robertabrams91]

What’s your opinion on the hot racing hub extender’s for the Maxx? Do you think they would be good with the stock tires? They add 10mm pur side I believe. You won’t have to change your pinion if you go that route. Anybody try them out ?

[@andrewbahr1921]

Interesting point, good work man. I Wonder if those stock traxxas tires may perform better on looser terrain than the blacktop

[@mickeysrc]

Yes. If you run the truck with stock tires off-road you’ll definitely see what the engineers were shooting for. The compound is too soft though so at the end of the day they won’t last very long.

[@John_D2]

The only thing the stock tires run good on , is the grass, and that's it. They are a absolute joke on any kind of dirt. And the truck ain't worth two cents without the widemaxx kit and steel axles. It should have come like that stock.

[@mickeysrc]

​@@John_D2 I think it did pretty good on loose dirt, hard dirt, grass and a combination of loose dirt/grass under some pine trees. A harder tire compound, slightly wider but not WideMAXX wide, and steel CVD's would have been welcomed out of the box upgrades for sure.

[@damson2809]

anyone tried these tires on the E Revo? Do they balloon? I have Badlands MX38 balloon real bad 👎and I'm looking to change them out

[@modex20]

Why Low Profile?

[@stevegagnon4627]

Wide maxx kit, trencher lp, and add in hot racing stub shaft for another 10mm on each side

[@mickeysrc]

That, my friend, is not a WideMAXX. That's what you would call a SuperWideMAXX ;)

[@stevegagnon4627]

@@mickeysrc lol, yes sir. Doesn't roll over so easy now

[@stepnyvlk9695]

Can imagine these tyres on a widemax? Unflypable :)

[@mickeysrc]

Haha, yes. I run the LP Trenchers on my other MAXX that's WideMAXX. It does great but if you're only running your truck off-road you don't need both. LP Trenchers by themselves will work amazing off-road without the WideMAXX kit.

[@stepnyvlk9695]

@@mickeysrc i got the PL trenchers on the mini revo and the truck is amazing with them looks like a mini revo 2.0 🙃 loving it thata how it should have come from factory. Shame on you traxxas. Is there any good pptions for the e-revo 2.0?

[@mickeysrc]

@@stepnyvlk9695 honestly, I like the stock tires on the E-Revo 2.0. I think they did a good job on them. A lot of people run them on the WideMAXX. I too have the trenchers on my Merv. Solid tire for sure.

[@alleliteaaronstarcher9417]

A little late to the vid, but really enjoyed the comparison. What spur/pinion combo would you recommend for the Prolines on off road conditions?

[@mickeysrc]

Thanks! The trenchers aren't that much taller and they aren't as aggressive as the stock tires so stock gearing should be okay. If you run on your stock gearing and notice, with your driving style, it's getting a bit too hot drop it a tooth or two.

[@bombidude]

Any special adapter to mount the treachers on the maxx. I have splined 17mm hubs.. Having a hard time finding good tires to fit on my widemaxx and look sweet.

[@mickeysrc]

No, they bolt right on.

[@DrHappythumb]

Great comparison man 👍. Im a little hesitant to buy the Widemaxx kit because the plastic drive shafts seem stretched out too much once its installed. Ive seen other Maxxs' with the inner drive shafts start to look like twisted licorice after a while.

[@mickeysrc]

Metal CVDs are a mandatory upgrade if you plan on going WideMAXX.

[@jgrc73]

They include longer outers I have the CvD kit But no need to install it yet, I’m running on rough terrain with snow and stuff it’s working great. Widemaxx was a good call for me on the “Rustler Maxx”...it handles very well. Preloaded & 60/70 wt shock oil, made a difference. Still lower gc than stock, however. To clarify with the outers included in wm kit I do not think the CvDs are absolutely mandatory but you will be replacing the plastic ones eventually. They don’t really snap just twist real bad after a while. I’m hoping to make it through the winter and the wet spring season before I put on the Steelies, they rust easily. Even though I use a compressor to dry up the truck each time there’s only so much time in every day - unlike a lot of people I am very fond of trax plastic. Cheap never rusts and it is pretty strong... The benefit of widemax is you can open up the throttle & countersteer in really tight stuff and it will slide as it oversteers. The truck is really usable in tight stuff, But I miss the extra travel and ground clearance. I bet it would traction roll much easier if I put good tires on it. I like traxxas tires the way they protect the driveline. I like aftermarket tires the way they hook the heck up. Always a tough call. I like your trenchers approach a lot. It is much, much cheaper and a totally viable alternative. Pricing the kit at $60 was genius, Since you really need shock oil and most people buy the CvDs And then pony up for the wide tubes a Set of trenchers seems like pennies by comparison. Great video, subscribed.

[@mickeysrc]

@@jgrc73 You're right. The new WideMAXX kits ship with the longer plastic driveshaft part now. I forgot about that. Metal CVD's will wear over time too. I hope you get good life out of your plastic ones though :)

[@josephhenderson7044]

I only would buy them for dirt not black top

[@Scott_Bishell]

Cool vid........ but the croc's ruined it for me ;) haha Subscribed, looking forward to the next one!

[@connorcars_0646]

The crocs are drippy what ate you taking about

[@mickeysrc]

Crocs killed me too until I got a pair. I can't stop wearing them now! Hahah.

[@brockparks4238]

so what gearing is the best option with metal driveshafts and widemaxx kit ?

[@brockparks4238]

does servo need upgrading once 3.8s on ?

[@jburnsdrummer]

Did you have to swap any gears since these are bigger than stock? I want to do this but it might overheat

[@mickeysrc]

In the video I’m running stock gearing but only so I could shoot this video quickly. Dropping the motor pinion a tooth or two should do well.

[@tonigrandon3745]

@Mickey’sRC...can you use the Prolines with the wide kit?

[@mickeysrc]

Yes, you can.

[@whitsrcleftovers2707]

I went with the sledgehammers. Only run offroad as well, and I prefer as much traction as I can get. Do run the widemaxx kit, I just slow down when I turn. Haha. Have you done any speed runs or high rpm with the LP Trenchers? Curious about ballooning. I should add I did up the front and rear diff fluids. 100k front, 500k rear. Again, I run 98% offroad.

[@mickeysrc]

I run 98% off-road as well. The 2% is when I'm just too lazy to pick my truck up to walk it back to my car. If you don't want ballooning the sledgehammers were a good pick. I just don't like them because they're way too hard. They put a ton of extra stress on the drivetrain. Not as bad as paddles but they're super aggressive and don't have any give to them at all. The trenchers have a good tread pattern that will allow the tire to spin if you put too much power to them too fast. And I was talking about shock oil not diff fluid. Another controversial topic. Haha. Here's my old WideMAXX on LP Trenchers: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpjWXqtjgdOgkK8

[@whitsrcleftovers2707]

@@mickeysrc I hear ya with the trenchers. I certainly have some as they are a good all around in between tire. Lol, and yeah I knew you were talking shock oil, idk why I shared my diff fluid. Shocks I run 50wt front and around 70 rear. I say "around" because I mix 50 and 100 together, just a little more of the 50. Thing still chassis slaps like a b!&@h though. Think it's just prone to the vehicle.

[@mickeysrc]

@@whitsrcleftovers2707 I'm working on some parts to fix that as we speak.

[@dd7620]

What about those tires with the wide max kit? I really want those tires now. Just have a stock max for now.

[@mickeysrc]

6:01 😉

[@warszcau]

Hello everyone, dropping the pinion from stock 24t to 22t will decrease the speed? Or am i wrong?

[@wise--men]

I also wanted to know.

[@testrak]

@@wise--men It will cause slower max speed but with quicker acceleration.

[@wise--men]

@@testrak Nice man! Thanks. So it looks like this helps in making standing backflips toooo!!!

[@jrelpantera1982]

Are those belted ? Do you recommend belted or not belted ?

[@mickeysrc]

No, they aren't. If you only run on pavement I'd get belted. If you like to bash your truck and do flips do not get belted as it'll prevent your tires from expanding which helps provide rotational mass/make your truck flip easier.

[@rc4you891]

I would like to see a running video at full speed

[@mickeysrc]

Haha, I'm definitely not the "speed run" guy and have a ton of content I haven't even got around to editing yet but if you follow me on IG @mickeysrc, once it dries up, I'll shoot one for you.

[@thehot1911]

Bro did you gear down for the bigger tires? I want to do this but I’m afraid of overheating the motor, if you didn’t gear down does everything stay cool?

[@mickeysrc]

In this video it's on stock gearing 24/50 because I just wanted to shoot the video really quick. I have it on 20/50 right now. I ran a full 5k 4s Traxxas pack through it full out for 30 minutes straight and the motor barely got warm at all. I'm going to take it to the jumps like that but am certain I'll need to go up a tooth or two to have more control in the air. We shall see but I'm thinking 22t may be the ticket. I just wanted to go lower to see if it would solve the cogging issues but it didn't.

[@thehot1911]

@@mickeysrc my maxx cogs on stock gearing

[@mickeysrc]

@@thehot1911 Everyone's does. Reducing the pinion generally helps quite a bit. It was better but not by much.

[@thehot1911]

@@mickeysrc I think I will do that. I definitely want the widemaxx kit with some bigger diggers tho, I think it will wake this truck up in rough terrain

[@collinculpepper365]

@@mickeysrc What exactly are you referring to when you say cogging issues?

[@yzboii]

Hey great video any issues with the electronics over heating?

[@Frostbyte911]

Now, your mission if you choose to accept it… find a suspension set up that eliminates chassis slap on realistic jumps…

[@wise--men]

I adjusted my chassis slap using 6,000 CST silicone oil + the springs tightened to maximum + a rubber stopper on the damper bars. I used regular sandals, cut them into a circle shape with a stiletto and pierced them with the tip of a tool heated on the kitchen stove. The tool width is the same as the bars. I'm from Brazil, the sandals I used were havaianas. The height of the rubber stops is about 17mm. It was so perfect and professional that it looks better than the factory.

[@keyfromtheeastbay5587]

What do you have to upgrade for these tires to fit Maxx?

[@mickeysrc]

Nothing. They’re a direct fit. It’s recommended you drop the pinion down a tooth or two since the tires are slightly larger than stock.

[@keyfromtheeastbay5587]

@@mickeysrc what's the part #

[@mickeysrc]

@@keyfromtheeastbay5587 For?

[@keyfromtheeastbay5587]

For a maxx

[@mickeysrc]

@@keyfromtheeastbay5587 You want the part number for the MAXX?

[@tenncutt]

You look stoned Mickey! Admit it and i will subscribe!

[@mickeysrc]

I can't smoke. It makes me nauseous :( I was actually pretty sick when I shot this. I felt good for long enough to shoot this and when I got back home I just about died haha.

[@tenncutt]

@@mickeysrc good answer! I am subscribing. I just got home with a new Maxx this evening and I am ordering the tires from RCSuperstore in just a few seconds! Good video man. Musta been , MY eyes!

[@treymann23]

I run the EREVO 2.0 tires on my MAXX...... way better

[@mickeysrc]

They're pretty big for the regular MAXX. I ran them on my WideMAXX and thought they did pretty well. One of the few tires from Traxxas I actually enjoy.

[@treymann23]

@@mickeysrc keep up the good content

[@mickeysrc]

@@treymann23 Thanks! Wish I had more time to do more. Always so busy.

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[@mickeysrc]

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[@RoadsideRC]

100% agree! Run Pro-line badlands on my friend's Maxx and it does GREAT! No need for the wide conversion - just more leverage for things to break. Subscribed!

[@mickeysrc]

I had badlands on my first MAXX. Overall a much better tire than the trenchers for off-road/compact dirt which is what I mainly use my truck for. The only reason I got the trenchers, again, is because the compound is a bit harder and there's more tread overall so I think they'll last a bit longer. Honestly, I should have just got the badlands considering I've never had a truck long enough to wear the tires down. LOL