Watch This Before Importing a Boat From CHINA

[@WTFitsJames]

The thing people dont understand is china sells to two markets, those who want cheap items (us markets) and those who want expensive. Think, they produce iphones, they have their own international space station. Uncle sam said we want this but make it cheaper, so they use cheap parts. For other countries they get premium stuff because they pay (standard prices)

[@TheRdwyer]

NO U.S. manufacturing companies moved their equipment and trained slave labor to produce good quality items that they export to the U.S. i.e. Iphone, Dewalt, China then copies and makes crap and exports to anyone and everyone. Like their fake military jets and ships, copies and fakes. They have no inventive ingenuity. I have tools from my Father I still use made in U.S.A, hand tools. Anyone can buy the crap items or the good quality items. They make both. Slave labor is the heart of the matter. The machinery they use in the high quality plants are made elsewhere no doubt or at least the engineering design of it.

[@Legendbilliards]

Good video man, totally agree with you.

[@seakingnthqld]

Thanks mate

[@dota2lol942]

i saw you towing one of these boats on Bruce Highway before, man they look massive, bigger than most boats in the market claim to be the same size

[@marchillyard199]

Mate I’m just happy us north Queenslander have access to great boats like the 790

[@seakingnthqld]

Cheers mate

[@Michael-gf2er]

Definitely not crap totally the opposite awesome boats great design & very capable.👍

[@simonstone3336]

Well said mate 👏 👍

[@joshoconner7448]

Thanks for your transparency mate appreciate it awesome looking boats and you seem to no what your talking about My old boss use to buy a shit load of marble from china so no skin of my back u get ur product from over there as long as it meets the quality and Australian standard happy days 👍🏾

[@shanevl85]

I have experience with an imported aluminium boat. A 7m rear console commercial fishing boat. Twin 250 yammies that were bought and fitted in Australia. Now this was a new Zealand import not a Chinese one. And the problems apparently stem from a lower grade of alloy being used. Admittedly we were running that thing backwards and forwards from Cooktown to princess Charlotte bay basically weekly. And anyone who has ever been around that part of the world will understand that a 20knot soueaster is a good day. Punching into 25+knots for the five hour run back to Cooktown was pretty much standard. Exactly what these seakings are apparently good for according to old mate selling them. And they may well be I haven't had a chance to use one for a few months to really see if they are built properly. But this new Zealand thing named after a large shark was a total peice of shit. It looked the part. Even rode ok for a big tinnie. But after a few months of FNQ wind and chop bashing every single weld in it basically failed. Literally every weld in the canopy was cracked or completely snapped, the hull would flex on every wave. My deckie used to stand up and hold a ratchet strap over a 600l Esky. That strap suddenly started going loose then tight then loose as the sides of the hull flexed inwards on impact with each wave. And I'm talking tight as to a foot of play above the Esky. Needless to say that tub is long gone and I will never touch another import again. That boat passed amsa survey and I personally toured the factory and met with the designers etc. it all looked good at the time but in hindsight I should have had it built in Australia. The extra cost would have far outweighed what I lost selling it and having a replacement built in Australia (6.5m mission magic centre cab, single 300yammy, best ally boat I have ever had anything to do with btw) not to mention lost fishing time dealing with a boat that was unsafe to work anymore. These seakings could be totally different but I wouldn't take the risk again. Buy used Aussie built rather than new import would be my advice if your trying to cut costs. Or even better realise boat stands for bring out another thousand and that the poor man always pays twice and don't cut costs with "cheaper" anything when it comes to boats. U can't walk home if it breaks down and U sure as shit arnt swimming home if it splits in half. Especially in north qld

[@nathanpodmore4602]

Whose 5083 Aluminium are they using?

[@56wilfred]

Even if he does tell you, these Chinese companies will use poor grade aluminium anyway.

[@1Longranger]

​@@56wilfred A hand held xrf analyser configured for aluminium will determine what alloy it is. Risky business these days substituting grades as it is very easily detected.

[@everydaybladesinc]

I’m a knife collector. Chine makes some really high end high quality knives these days.

[@mikewulffy]

Good honest video. Great information, and I love the look of the boats you're having built and importing. Next time in Townsville, I'll look you up.

[@seakingnthqld]

Thanks mate!

[@jasonwright131]

I am writing this message from Jamaica. I was also one of those guys extremely skeptical of ANYTHING from china. I work in construction here and that was my feeling until about 10 years ago when people started importing trucks and other heavy equipment from china. Now if anyone has visited a third world country you will see that we overload and overwork everything! And I have seen these dump trucks painfully overloaded and they are still going. They have recently taken over the trucking industry here because everyone loves them. The same for the heavy equipment the excavators and tractors so I can totally agree with you it all depends on the factory you get things from. There are crap factories for sure but there are also very good ones. That actually convinced me to import one of these boats from china as well to “test the waters” with them in the Caribbean. So I guess we will see how that goes.

[@seakingnthqld]

Thanks for your comments. The good factories are out there in every category, you just have to do your due diligence to source and vet them. If you need any advice on the vessels let me know - send me an email through our website - facebook page. Happy to point you in the right direction. Regards Guy

[@Roddders3000]

Excellent video and subscribed, will certainly be following your channel, I imported an American boat (Pro-Line no complaints) but now considering an aluminum build. I'll be looking for your contact details with a view to consultancy/advice as I'm not in Australia, and you're absolutely right about the number of off the cuff BS comments. 😂

[@stevecuthbertson4053]

you can buy poorly made products from anywhere. to presume that an australian businessman cant go to a foreign country, design, oversee and create a high quality product is naive. I havent seen your boats in person but whats the issue? any buyer can inspect them and instantly decide for themselves if they are getting value for money. quality is obvious as is poor quality. no one is getting there arm twisted. what i do appreciate is that taking the initiative and investment you have, means, aussies can buy a locally supported boat for a much better price without the dangers inherent in buying direct from china, which do include all the things that others are commenting on. good luck to you. we need more businesses like this.

[@seakingnthqld]

Thank you mate appreciate it

[@MrOmarkiam]

Good show!

[@chrisclemons9943]

What’s the cost? I’m looking for a 21-24 center console with a head. Will be used for fishing and family outings

[@11MADHUEYS]

Your in Townsville?? Love to see a sea trial

[@seakingnthqld]

Yes mate - I will set a couple days for those interested to join us once I have the motor fittings confirmed on the 720 & 960 we have arriving.

[@Gomes0788]

Awesome way to encourage Australian manufacturing. The reality behind all your salesman talk is because you can make them cheep. As good as the process may be I can assume that there oh&s and fair work conditions may be lacking. I know our day to day items come from china but as a good Aussie I would say for a luxury item like a boat let’s back our local industry and be proud of a good Aussie boat builder.

[@seakingnthqld]

Respect your opinion mate. I don’t consider myself a salesman - I just give my honest opinion Plus I don’t think that my father and son operation,customising 8-10 boat builds a year is going to effect Australian manufacturing

[@Gomes0788]

⁠Thanks for the reply and absolutely respect your honesty and admire your hard work you obviously put into your business. Thinking out loud do you think that if you business was to grow in excess of 8-10 boats per year that there would be a viable option to use onshore manufacturing or is Australia becoming to expensive to compete?

[@PeteGerard-p2f]

Australian manufacturing? You're joking aren't you? Just look at our wonderful Gov, the biggest purchase ever made and they're buying it from overseas!! Australia simply can NOT compete. If you doubt that, then put your money where your mouth is and start a manufacturing business here in Aus yourself. Then you might just change your idealistic oh&s views when it costs you 100's of thousands a year!

[@seakingnthqld]

Yes of course. I actually do as much fit out and optional extras as I can here in Australia already. I use all local businesses for my motors, electronics, installs, vinyl and canvas fabrications etc etc. More local and interstate companies are reaching out all the time to collaborate. So we will evolve in this direction as much as possible

[@56wilfred]

I’ve inspected the welds on two of these boats and anyone who goes out on these are putting their lives at risk. Don’t even need to carry out dye penetrant to see the massive cracks on these dogshit welds.Don’t buy Chinese boats.

[@jb243wp]

I have a couple of questions.. What is the warranty period? What happens and who pays for any any repairs that come under warranty, like cracking, corrosion issues etc after a couple of years use? As pretty sure Australian consumers' claims for any type of reimbursement won't be backing you?? Guess that could be a shit fight to who is going to cover it if the ACCC wont back you... Not saying the quality is questionable, but things can happen in the harsh Australia conditions. Does someone like you as the importer initially cover the costs of warranty repairs and then they reimbursed you?? Just asking.. Cheers

[@seakingnthqld]

Factory warranty has now been extended from 3 years to 5 years through dealers. Factory pays direct or reimburses us as dealers pending the job size and the location.

[@IgorLjevak]

so is there a factory website or something? How to order?

[@gerardchuah717]

I totally agree with you....I have been working with the Chinese for the last 30 years and there are some excellent products out there...thanks for sharing your experience in a very rational manner

[@bubbleobill267]

I’m waiting for the ten year update on how your boat is going.

[@seakingnthqld]

Yep cheers. Chat then

[@RichNZ4865]

lol mayday

[@ghostighosti9443]

Ill stick to Aussie made, no matter what sales spin is put out there. Support local manufacturing!

[@929cosmodude]

make sure you research it is actually aussie made from aussie materials then, your choices may be slimmer than you think

[@ghostighosti9443]

@929cosmodude don't think so, this still does not support Australian made and local manufacturing

[@mikehatcher5855]

Well soon you won’t be able to afford anything made local as your System is just as rigged and inflated as the Canadian. So enjoy paying 180 k for your new fishing boat

[@theoffender3113]

Good luck buying a car.. 😉

[@ghostighosti9443]

@theoffender3113 if only you knew the Aussie car collection I have. Not interested in the new rubbish.

[@rvierra7235]

What factory is it that you acquire the boats from?

[@stephenbackhus2272]

I in Qingdao in 2008/2009 and my b/in-law took me to a boat yard where they build Italian glass boats inside and tug boats outside - I bought and imported a 2nd hand Suzuki 23ft c/c from Japan in 2011 - Cost me $14K landed in Sydney including freight from Newcastle dock

[@justinl7401]

Interesting in import a small electric trailer boat from China to Brisbane , do you have any recommendations? I Just want something cruise on the weekend and get to the island sort the things. Thanks

[@GlenMeadus]

Hi I'm from Canada and looking for a good aluminum factory. Can you advise where thus is in Qingdao

[@zonzon670]

how can i order smaller boats from the same factory. cant afford those 790 size boats. looking for like a 15 ft side console thats not crazy expensive

[@seakingnthqld]

Hey Mate. The smallest they do is a 5.9m centre console. I don’t have any experience with the factories that make the smaller alloys sorry bud

[@LorryChernoff]

Hi Guy, I was wonder if we could have a discussion about getting a boat from China to Vancouver Canada. Ive had a few ThunderJet alumni boats and saw the boats you guy are using as a base from China and customize then finishing in New Zealand.

[@seakingnthqld]

Yes we could assist with this. What size / model were you considering? Guy

[@mikehatcher5855]

I was also at that show, the most expensive biggest thunder jet on display had four big pin holes/ lack of Fusion on the main weld from cabin to gunnel. The floors where very soft and they have a very week chime. It was kinda of embarrassing

[@jackpage8779]

Is the factory. All sea boats factory?

[@kizzjd9578]

Gospel

[@rosskennedy]

I 2002 I bought sea rider 6.0m made in Perth,greatest ally boat for rivers,inshore and way out wide,has stood test of time and thousands outings.

[@eventsboatsagency]

Hi, Nice video.. Witch factory is the best ?

[@phillipesch7556]

I agree china can make great products, my only hesitancy of considering a Seaking is seeing it in bad conditions. Almost all bar cootacraft don't show a boat in bad conditions

[@phillipesch7556]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/bH7OnaRrjt5jkJYsi=uZ-LJGhxJ1GE8I04

[@56wilfred]

Or carry out an NDT inspection on the structural welds after those rough conditions.

[@tritonjackmam5.681]

are these the boats out of gospel boats ??

[@АмогусСус-з4д]

What's the name of the factory? Gospel boats?

[@funcraig]

Have you brought in any catamarans ?

[@3falexchina]

Great video! I'm also 20 years doing business in China. You are absolutely right. I agree 100 percent about your view points. P.S I guess your main business in Qingdao. I hope you will come to next Guangzhou fair! Will glad to meeting you)

[@thisisnottv6793]

a friend of mine that is a clock collector once asked me where I thought the best clocks in the world were made, my answer was quickly Switzerland?....his response shocked me..."No they are made in China"...he followed by saying China makes cheap crap as that is what the market wants but they are capable of making the best quality things in the world you just have to pay for it....

[@seakingnthqld]

Exactly. I've been saying this for so many years. Its the actual buyer/importer who determines the quality. The cheap factories far outnumber the good ones which makes them harder to find.

[@Strongpawspetservices]

Well spoken!

[@seakingnthqld]

Appreciate it - thankyou

[@smurfythesmurf]

Doing the due diligence and visiting the factory, having a dedicated onsite representative, etc. is the way to go to find quality. Generally, however, Chinese companies, American companies, and any other, for the most part, would likely not turn down a quick buck at the cost of cutting corners. A one-off buyer also has a higher probability of having this happen when buying made-to-order custom products. It should also be noted that the Chinese do not have the same work ethic and pride in craftsmanship as say the Japanese. They will lean on the side of something like, "Woops, it's ok, the customer won't see this weld anyway" (until it becomes a problem) vs. losing time/money and doing a job correctly. If it can be helped, even my Chinese wife won't buy Chinese-made for anything of considerable price or value. I know my opinion is more on the negative end of the spectrum, but I do acknowledge that things change over time. That being said, stereotypes, reputations, etc. do not originate from nothing. The good factories definitely have to make themselves stand out in an int'l market.

[@michaelbray6499]

I’d have one of these over telwater

[@1Longranger]

Aren't Telwater a subsidiary of BRM? A Canadian based multinational corporation? So much for Aussie built..

[@zonzon670]

whats the factory name

[@Walterkooy]

In China you can get any quality of product you want. the importers are deciding the quality. If you want the cheapest you won’t get the best. The Chinese factories will give the importer options. If you pay this, you will get that. If you pay more, you will get better. I want invite anyone from you to come to China and see my boat factory which I have 20 years.

[@stefanwaitokia7560]

What site do you use mate gospel boats??

[@brandonpeahu1318]

Great vid! Im currently trying to get one imported to hawaii. Im pretty sure im working with the same factory that you are. 🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽

[@seakingnthqld]

That's Awesome - If you need any advice feel free to shoot us a message!

[@danijelperos6860]

@@seakingnthqldhi! I am planing to import it to Croatia, Europe. I am checking some factories, Allsea boats (Gospel boats) looks good, if it is not a secret is your supplier or some other factory? Thanks for reply🙏🏻

[@Mrkellywilliamson]

I live on the Big Island. How did your boat buying go and shipping etc? Please share which China manufacturer you picked. Mahalo.

[@strapper_d]

Sad that Australian manufacturing has to give way to this type sales spew

[@charliezwl]

John Howard and the likes who private electricity is the main cause, not the goods from other country. In 1983 when China was still poor, they import many 200 seat catamaran ferries from Australia, sailing between Guangdong and Hong Kong.No one claim those ferries kill Chinese manufacturing.

[@kizzjd9578]

You obviously havent heard of the dogs breakfast called telwater. All made on the gold coast by crackheads. If you dont believe me, talk to any of the workshop employees.

[@1Longranger]

@@kizzjd9578 I once worked for a company that manufactured large hydraulic equipment in SE Qld and the stoners that worked there produced certain show rides as well. I can tell you that there is no way I would get on one of those things. Australian manufacturing is vastly overrated in some industries but some US stuff is actually worse. To write off Asian built products that obviously produce a high quality product and compare it to some mediocre Aussie product built by the dregs of tradesmen really is stupid.

[@warrenarmstrong1175]

I can't talk about the boats they build but can talk at length about their locally manufactured Oilfield equipment which is universally JUNK that's banned from wellsites operated by any Western standard company around the world that care about the safety of their employees. The chinese are fantastic at copying technology invented and perfected elsewhere and producing a cheap copy that will turn into a fucking hand grenade when the high pressure it's meant to withstand is applied, regardless of their "very stringent in house QC testing" that's incorrectly rated it! Then, some manufacturers have tried over the years to have their products built there but found that even with 24/7 Expat supervision watching every step like a Hawk they WILL still find a way to cut corners and fuck it up. Like I said I can't talk about their boats as I have no experience with that but I do know I would not want to be in a chinese built boat 50 km offshore and the weather went off knowing that my safety suddenly depended on the welding job done by Mr Ping with ZERO tertiary education who was getting paid $48.15 per month, maybe. I wouldn't be relying on chinese built outboards to get me home either and have no doubt they're only copies of real outboards but with a tendency to shit themselves properly at the worst possible moment as well. They didn’t get this reputation for no good reason...

[@markslowen1958]

AMEN - Vile work ethic - they want your money and will do and say anything to get it.I took the exclusive agency for Cummins K and N series engines for Australia only to find they had given the same exclusivity for at least 5 other companies - not to mention they would still sell the engines directly from the factory to anyone that walked through the door - when I confronted them on it the answer was ITS A FREE WORLD.

[@islandinflatables]

you got no idea and it shows

[@warrenarmstrong1175]

@@islandinflatables Says someone who flogs Chinese junk like Parsuns for a living, no chance of any bias there hey? 🙄😂

[@islandinflatables]

@@warrenarmstrong1175 I'm not bias I'm educated in my field and have done my homework.

[@warrenarmstrong1175]

@@islandinflatables Yeah right. Get back to us when the Coast Guard, Police, Pro's and serious fisho's who go miles offshore are all running whatever Chinese knock-offs you're pedalling on their boats and I'll take you seriously then.

[@stevepierce3509]

All I can say is if building a boat spend your money in Australia so it goes to Australian Families, its plain and simple.

[@seakingnthqld]

So just boats have to be Australian? Everything else we buy and consume is ok though - regardless of origin And FYI I’m Australian with an Australian family.

[@atangapaul1141]

Typing from your Chinese made phone mate 😅😅

[@stevepierce3509]

Did I say that ? NO I didnt. Did i say everything else we consume is OK though ? NO. So stop and think about what you say because Chinese built boats are rubbish and not the way Australians want to see, until you can show better, FORGET IT, Ill and MANY others will spend there hard earned in Australian mad or NZ made where quality assurance is at the most highest level. @@seakingnthqld

[@stevepierce3509]

Yeah, there's always options. Australia is being taken over by China because its the cheap option and your apart of it. @@atangapaul1141

[@seakingnthqld]

Sorry champ - I didnt realise you had been to the factory several times and sea trialled the boats extensively for years. I could of sworn you have never been in one. My bad

[@nattherat89]

Get yourself some mics

[@darinsingleton4085]

Don't worry about the naysayers. The haven't and won't ever own a boat as good as these for the price

[@56wilfred]

“I know the welds are perfect” even the hidden structural ones 😂 righto mate. I’d bet my left testicle that I could find cracks without even using dye pen on those shit Chinese boats

[@mikehatcher5855]

They are good…. And I have more pressure tickets than you and can weld up side down 😉 I also ask the same question about welds cracking down the road and what the quality of the material is like?. I’ve had lots of socket welds fail that were manufactured in China. Yet my local yacht club just got all new docs, and all the superstructure says made in China on it

[@1Longranger]

I'll bet you will find cracks in an Australian built boat, too (been there...). I've seen the welds on these boats and it is first class and equal or better than anything I've seen built here. I think the point that Guy is putting across is that it is the standards that a decent factory will adhere to and uphold. If you you want to know where some the best world class yachts and motor yachts are made you will find they are made in China. They can and do produce phenomenal products but you'll pay for it.

[@ShaneSteel-om2cr]

I'm a boilermaker for 42 yrs the welding will be shit, I've personally reworked heaps of Chinese steel and aluminium eg:- skilled Stadium Geelong millions of dollars in rewelding , trailers:- semi and car that are new,earthmoving gear and few boats, so the welding quality will not be there I'd put money on that. The boats design and build Won't be there not like barcrusher, stabicraft and Surtee just to name a few That my opinion ànd two welding inspector's

[@dnomyarnostaw]

Try showing us through the boat, instead of up the leg shots and hand clapping, please. 🙂

[@seakingnthqld]

Try watching one of the other videos that are about the boats and not the importing process please :)

[@robertrickabaugh3304]

Get a boat built in Australia, you're killing your own country

[@NoneOfYourBeesWax1]

High prices are killing Australia.

[@atangapaul1141]

Typing from your Aussie made phone mate

[@mikehatcher5855]

No man, you are. Going in debt an extra 120 K for a boat isn’t helping the economy either.

[@1Longranger]

Buy a boat built in Australia by a foreign owned corporation? Yeah, I'll pass thanks.

[@ijoseluis]

Everything you say makes sense. However, it's boring to hear you for such a long time saying the same since the second one. I would be much better to go straight to the point and show. Thank you.

[@jamesgudobba2974]

TUFU construction, ALL OF IT!

[@daverameka7838]

We all know it's just labour's there why these big companies are there 😂

[@VanillaGorilla145]

Can I come to china with you?

[@gypana]

Manufacturing that was once done in Germany , France, USA , Japan and Australia was always top quality and that is materials and workmanship, things made in China just aren't as good and everyone knows it, that's why you're making this video, made in China has recently meant cheap and crap and they went down this path on all on their own with their cheap imitation ripoffs...as for these boats you're promoting I wish you the best I honestly do but other companies have gone and died in China because not many trust the quality coming from there mate.

[@stevecuthbertson4053]

Im going to show my age and point out a few things here. After the 2nd world war, japanese products were known as crap and universally reviled in exactly the same way that you are talking about China. We still all purchased their transistor radios and other stuff. Now they have toyota and panasonic etc etc. (who have lots of plants in china by the way). I have imported a lot of products from china in different fields (i mean in bulk for business), and i would say as rule of thumb, if you invest in going there, teaching them, improving their finish and design, requiring good systems control, they turn out top quality goods. If you just buy stuff randomly you will get a real lottery including a lot of ****. Ive seen both. The world manufacturing hub moves where the available low labor and materials cost is. It was in the philippines and taiwan after japan and now its in China. They still have intelligent people, (and in the right factory - state of the art tooling) that with good communication can produce anything as well as any other country. Ive seen that they do not innovate design well themselves but if you show them what to build its good quality. (as long as your supervising it :) cheers. just my thoughts not disagreeing with anyone. The decision to buy local is a personal choice and one that is to be commended, but it doesnt automatically mean that you cant get quality from China or elsewhere under the right circumstances.

[@NoneOfYourBeesWax1]

Nice iPhone you have there. Where was it made? Care to show us your German made iPhone?

[@TheRdwyer]

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[@vicrigg9390]

Buy your kids a job buy Australian made

[@fatman__________]

Instead he created his a son!

[@peterhoulis1184]

Buy Australian

[@BorisNjegic]

It is not moronic, it is rasistic.

[@ozcampnhuntdan7858]

Using 'it's a throw away comment' is in itself a throw away comment and shows that any negative comments on chinese quality should be thrown away. It is a FACT that chinese manufacturers have and will cut any cost possible with labour and materials to make money. The chinese economy is tanking and this will furthermore have an impact on the quality of these boats. Many people a sprucing the chinese cars which in turn have many quality issues from the start and always will. In my case I would rather spend 20% more to get an aussie built unit with materials that are pure and certified than have in the back of my mind the likelihood of a chinese boat playing up whilst offshore. Your spiel is only to market 'your' boats and fill your pockets with the margins. This video makes me sick.

[@seakingnthqld]

So you have been to the factory? Seen the build process - been in one on the water - sea trialled them extensively - then come to this decision right? I doubt you've even seen one in person

[@Antipodean33]

All those companies you list are only in China because of the slave wages, zero health and safety laws and no unions. The only reason China has any claim to those companies successes is what I listed above. Also the welding on those Chinese boats is terrible, not to mention the quality of the aluminium used. China is renowned for crap quality metal and I'd bet anything that their supposed marine quality aluminium would not stand up to any level of metallurgic examination. All that aside support Australian companies and workers people, we don't need to be spending our money overseas, spend it in the country that made it possible for you to earn that money. Also the welding on that boat you're sitting in front of looks ordinary at best

[@1Longranger]

Ever heard of xrf analysis? A hand held xrf analyser configured for aluminium makes short work of testing aluminium grades and quality. The factory would be taking a huge risk to global reputation to short cut alloy grades given the prevalence and availability of x-ray fluorescence testing equipment.