4 Under 4: Four Watches with German Craftsmanship Under 4,000 CHF

[@jangazi2742]

Hello Bill, great video, I love the fact that you always find interesting watches and stay mostly off the main brands, you are indeed a true collector, you have my greatest respect.

[@watchartsci]

Hey Jan thanks man! There's no sense for a collector to pay attention only to those brands that have the best advertising budget! Cheers, Bill

[@nickkendall3764]

Thats one of the things i love about bill. He loves movements and dosnt subscrib to fashions or trends he just loves horolagy not the image some seem to only be intrested in

[@thomashendrick6711]

Everything your podcasts include, everything you convey is heads and shoulders above the general watch fan talking head's podcast. Non -biased statements are most appreciated, and highly respected. Thank you for you being you and hence your genuine and honorable podcasts. Thank you, Bill.

[@watchartsci]

Hey Thomas, thanks man! Take care, Bill

[@blueshirtbuddah1665]

Another fantastic video Bill. Thank you again for showing us some very interesting watches that I hadn’t ever heard of. I absolutely love the craftsmanship that these watches have. One of these days I’m going to have to add a German made watch to my collection.

[@watchartsci]

Hi Bruce, the same group and type of watch would bore me to tears. These are interesting and relatively affordable. Follow the lead of craftsmanship and you'll always find value beyond what you pay. Cheers, Bill

[@gvnady8380]

16:03 amazing dial, Dornbluth and Sohn font looks satisfying and clean

[@watchartsci]

Some of their watches are getting into some very interesting horology along with the finishing and engravings.Take care, Bill

[@kevincardle5587]

That Dornblüth & Sohn is stunning

[@watchartsci]

Yes Kevin, they do some excellent decoration and finishing. Take care and be safe, Bill😷

[@s3077769]

I'm saving up for the Dornbluth and Sohn 99.4, it costs a bit more than the 99.0 but it has a date with hands too. I constantly check the date

[@watchartsci]

I think you'll find that to be a very good watch for the quality, Willy. Close to hand-made and well-supported. Cheers, Bill

[@h111551]

Dear Bill: The four specimen German watches you highlighted demonstrate that fine horology is much more accessible than many people think. The value proposition presented by each of the four watches is very high. The honest and fully disclosed use of the Unitas movement is not troublesome in light of the outstanding workmanship and decoration provide by Thomas Ninchritz and Joachim Benzinger and the sound aesthetic values of the Tourby, a brand I did not know of before seeing this video. The Dornbluth & Sohne watch could fulfill the desire for an inhouse movement. Mr. Ninchritz and Mr. Benzinger are both very estimable figures in horology. Mr. Ninchritz has had a much more narrowly focused and tradition oriented career than Mr. Benzinger who is a master of guilloche and other decorative techniques and who has done work in higher priced watches as well. Choosing one of these watches as a base, one could put together a three watch collection of merit by adding a dive watch and a fleiger watch using watches of the caliber of Sinn or Hanhart. Your selection of watches is a de facto tribute to Watchbuys which is the North American distributor and/or principal dealer for many of the watches discussed. Finally, in addressing the issue of German watches vis-a-vis Swiss watches, this really requires a little attention to history. Germany probably had as vital a tradition in clock and watchmaking as Switzerland. The upheaval and consequences of World War II and its aftermath combined with communist control of East Germany where much of German watchmaking was concentrated meant that neutral Switzerland was able to pull far ahead of the German watch industry. The Swiss advantage which lasted from 1945 through the mid 1999s is being undercut by the Glashutte revival and the resurrection of German watch production in East Germany combined with the continuation of pre-World War II founded West Germany watch concerns like Junghans plus new post-war founded watch making concerns like Sinn. In light of the revival of A. Langhe & Sohne and other historic Glashutte watchmakers combined with the rise of new vital entrants like Nomos, can anyone seriously argue that Swiss watches are inherently superior to German watches as of 2019? Fine and thought provoking video. Howard

[@watchartsci]

Thanks Howard! Besides the Germans having a rich history of watchmaking overshadowed by the Swiss are the English. At one time London was the hub of all watchmaking and many Swiss and German watchmakers went there for tutelage and legitimacy. However, the only vestige of the bright history of English watchmaking is Roger Smith who lives on the Isle of Mann ... not exactly a suburb of London. There are a few others, but the really good ones are small or have move to Switzerland. Christopher Ward is emerging with their own movement developed in their Swiss firm, and Bremont who's cases are unsurpassed, in my opinion, are still relying on ETA and ETA-based movements. So the Germans are giving the Swiss a run for their money, which forces the Swiss to innovation and re-thinking some pricing structures...not to mention some real horological craftsmanship emerging from China and Japan! All a good thing for collectors! Cheers, Bill

[@Alexander-hk6mb]

Hi Bill, thaks for this inspiring video! I am a big fan of the Dornblüth watches, have been in Kalbe twice and talked to Mr. Dirk Dorblüth. They are close to the watch makers from the 19th century, do not use any cnc, its a true manufacture. The 99 calibers are in house made but they base upon the Unitas calibers. The 99.0 is a Dornblüth 6498. Real in house movements are the phantastic Quintus calibers.

[@watchartsci]

Hi Alexander, I somehow missed that the 99.0 is a Unitas/ETA based movement. At one time I had thought the same thing, but in recent declarations by D&S, they seemed to be somehow related to an old movement re-discovered by the son and made into their first watch movement. I may have been mistaken, thanks for the update. Kindest regards, Bill

[@amintaslneto]

Great video Bill. I really love the distinctions between German and Swiss watchmaking schools. Vive la différence! Best, Amintas

[@watchartsci]

Hey Amitas, thanks man! The Saxony-centered watchmaking industry in Germany was re-born after Reunification, and the Germans seemed to want to return to a time before the 20th Century to re-discover everything great about their own watchmaking...with the exception of their Flieger tool watches that were tied to the mid-20th Century.. Kindest regards, Bill

[@christopherjulianus2214]

Hello there, being a former horoscope, this was very beautiful! Of course, I have actually learned a very good amount that I didn’t know before!

[@watchartsci]

Christopher, you were a former what? Take care, Bill

[@nickkendall3764]

Hello there bill .grate video.one thing i think maybe you got wrong or maybe its me whos mistaken.but i was under the impression the the gold chatons were actually used to make the watch lifetime serviceable as press fit jewels can only be reworked a few times before the plate itself needs replacing so the used the gold so they could just replace the chatons as thats much easier than creating a whole new plate.. Anyways bill grate video and i look forward to the next one keep up the hard work your videos are amung the very best watch content on youtube .

[@watchartsci]

Hey Nick, you may be right, but the use of gold chatons dropped to near zero in Swiss watches when the man-made ones replaced the mined jewels. However, they may have served more than one purpose, and I thank you for pointing that out. Kindest regards, Bill

[@mcm367]

Good topic, Bill! Thank you for posting and love that L&H movement!

[@watchartsci]

Hey Matt, good to hear you liked it. Getting the L&H was as much of an adventure as having it! You will see in today's video (Feb. 1, 2019). Kindest regards, Bill

[@westleygreenhalf2338]

Cornehl is another nice option, but just a little over $4000 with taxes. Nicely finished three-quarter plate (6498 mod) with gold chatons, snailing, swan neck, but no engraving (I think that can be requested), lots of hand finishing, and a lovely big sub seconds.

[@watchartsci]

Westley, you're prescience! I was just gathering up some Cornehl images to indicate that another German watchmaker to consider is Cornehl Watches whose lowest priced stainless steel watch is $4,387.96. Just a tad north of the border-4,358.25 CHF. Certainly one to be considered! Thanks, Bill

[@westleygreenhalf2338]

He is just about to offer a 40.5mm case as well, which is a plus as the Dornblüth 42mm cases seem to wear really large from owners' feedback and images. @@watchartsci

[@mouhrissani8588]

@@westleygreenhalf2338 dornblüth have 38,5 mm in the 2010 calibers and even 32 mm I guess in 2016 calibers for women probably (both in house)

[@jeffreybowden9835]

Thanks so much, I appreciate the affordable and hand wind slant.

[@watchartsci]

Thanks Jeffrey, it's always my pleasure! Cheers, Bill

[@JClark-yz1lm]

What's the verdict / consensus on the Dornbluth Quintus movement? Interested for the take on the maltese cross mechanism and this "short anchor escapement." I quite like the Q.2010 Klassik. More than 4000, but still seems like quite a value.

[@watchartsci]

J. Clark, I really haven't looked into it the Quintus. What can you tell me? Take care and be safe, Bill 😷

[@johnnychung4020]

Thank you, this is a great video. I always learn something new from your videos. Keep up the wonderful work!

[@watchartsci]

Hi Johnny, it's my pleasure ... I too enjoy watch collection in all of its nuances! Cheers, Bill

[@southnc63]

Nice job, Bill. Very informative and some good values for sure.

[@watchartsci]

Hey SouthNC. I wish I could have mentioned Rolf Lang Dresden watches...but they're not 'under 4.' Cheers, Bill

[@MichaelAndersen_DK]

I really like Dornblüth, they offer some really nice looking watches with custom options and great service. Can even have your name engraved in the baseplate. How cool is that?! But oh my, that Lang & Heyne... it's a beauty!

[@watchartsci]

A few years ago when I first discovered Dornblüth & Söhn, there was something about them that indicated superior craftsmanship. Over the years I see that still. Cheers, Bill

[@timweatherill3738]

GREAT, GREAT video, Bill! This gave me much hope for the furtherance of my odd collection. There were at least two of these that I would ~ had I the funds to hand ~ seek out and purchase immediately! Those Thomas Ninchritz watches got me very interested, as did the Jaeger & Benziger ... Aw, heck, the Tourby got me as well. Were I a fish, my mouth would be full of hooks! Thanks for brightening this grey winter's day, Bill!

[@watchartsci]

Hey Tim, we're all hooked fish in our watch obsessions! Glad you enjoyed! Cheers, Bill

[@patrickcannady2066]

Great video, Bill. I love German watches so this is helpful! I'm a big Dornbluth fan.

[@watchartsci]

Me too Patrick. My favorite watchmaker is Marco Lang (formerly of Lang & Heyne) and his father Rolf Lang ... of Dresden. Kindest regards, Bill

[@gilbertombp]

I'm currently browsing through Dornbluth's website. That caliber 99.3 with the up/down power reserve indicator, radial date, and small seconds reminds me of an 1815 up/down - but at about a quarter of the cost! Tempting...

[@watchartsci]

Hi Gilberto, all I can say is get what you want; not what someone else wants you to get. You want a Rolex; get a Rolex; You want a Dornblüth & Son; get a Dornblüth & Son. Your collection should be about what you want; not what I or anyone else thinks you should get. Cheers, Bill

[@jameswong6590]

Among these four watches, I like the Dornblueth & Sohn the most. Very well finished and decorated movement.

[@watchartsci]

Hi James, I kept changing my mind...probably if I had to choose it'd be the Jaeger & Benzinger because I like their guillochè the best. If I didn't have watches that were very similar in dial to Dornblueth & Sohn, while if on a Budget, I'd go with Ninchritz, but I have bought enamel dials from Tourby. How's that for indecision!? Cheers, Bill

[@jameswong6590]

@@watchartsci Lol

[@emanuelestuder2885]

Hi Bill,german watches are growing in me.I enjoy their mininal and compact look,aesthetically and mechanically speacking. These pieces you showed in your video are very cool and have an incredible value fir money. I love Glashutte Original especially the new diver speacks to me.

[@watchartsci]

Yes, Emanuele, the Glashütte Original are well-priced, and you can save even more on the secondary market-here are some new ones at good prices-www.jomashop.com/glwa.html?dir=asc&order=price and you might also like Tutima: www.gemnation.com/watches/Tutima/watches.html?sortBy=Price-Low-to-High Very well priced. Good hunting! Bill

[@eyeheartsushi2212]

Thanks for introducing me to Tourby Watches, Bill. Really like Tourby’s Old Military Enamel 43. Reminds me of the Longines Heritage 1918 which I have my eye on, except the Tourby appears to be a better timepiece.

[@watchartsci]

My pleasure Eye Heart. I've bought a couple of Tourby dials for making watches for their enamel. Great dials too. If you get one, let us know how you like it. Kindest regards, Bill

[@artl52]

interesting vid Bill. Surprised you didn't mention Hentschel - as you know, they use the A. Schild movement and redo/add many parts to it. Also, Dornbluth will customize your watch. Dial color, hands material, case material, engraving, etc. There may be a highly customized Dornbluth Quintus Power Reserve in my future. ;)

[@watchartsci]

Hey Art, you shouldn't have been surprised. Did you look at the movement? Not a lot of the German craftsmanship under discussion. ( See this: hentschel-hamburg.de/en/modelle/h2.html ... scroll around for images of the movement.) Also, their 4448€ (without 19% VAT) introductory price for the stainless steel H2 is still over the 4000 CHF threshold. I do like their HUW 1130 S based on the A. Schild 1130 S. Love the bridges and the swan neck regulator. Here's an opportunity for you to do a video on German watches between 4,000 CHF and 10,000 CHF ... the range of the Petite Aiguille category of the Grand Prix d’Horlogerie de Genève. Looking forward to it! Cheers, Bill

[@fuzionness]

Am Very new to your channel, Bill. But Love every bit of your video. Even though getting those expensive watches is hard to buy but good to know lot of them from your channel especially those movement difference and what value they. Favorite will be the glashutte original. Thank you.

[@watchartsci]

Hey fuzionness! Welcome to WatchArtSci! If you haven't seen them already, you'll find a couple of videos on Glashütte Original on this channel. Kindest regards, Bill

[@fuzionness]

Yeah. Was looking around for review on glashutte original which brought me to your channel. Awesome review every details where you dont only mention on just brands but all the movement that being produced in whole.Been spending alot time on your video. Looking forward for your video.

[@apars78]

Finally Dornblüth & Sohn!

[@watchartsci]

Well not very much Apar..Do you own a D&S? If you do, I really like to hear what you think of it. Kindest regards, bill

[@apars78]

@@watchartsci Hi Bill, Apologies for the delay in responding to your message. Yes I do own a dornbluth and sohn. It's a Caliber 99.2 hour, minute, large 'small second', power reserve, stainless steel case (power reserve indicator at "12", small second at "6", engraved silver dial with black engraving). Dirk had come down to London for a watch show and was kind to get the watch along with him; to my surprise along with Dirk, I also got to meet the engraver and the guy who made my dial; this is a new model they had never made. It was wonderful. And have been wearing my watch every day since then.

[@richardjones2609]

Got a Muehle Glashuette Lunova Datum as a daily driver. Selita SW 400 movement. Hackable. Great watch!

[@watchartsci]

Hey Richard, doesn't it also have the 'woodpecker regulator?' A much overlooked watch! Take care and be safe, Bill😷

[@richardjones2609]

@@watchartsci Indeed, it does! Before trying it on, thought it would be too big at 42.3 mm case, 48-ish, lug-to-lug, but it's not at all. Leather strap, extremely comfortable.

[@AbdulRWatches]

Hi Bill, Great video, I especially like these Jaeger & Benzinger watches beautiful guilloche dial and work on the movement. The Dornblueth & Sohn looks also well above the price tag. I think Nomos and Sinn offer great quality at great prices.

[@watchartsci]

Hi Abdul! thanks man! I too like the Jaeger & Benzinger dials and they movement decorations. As I looked at those four brands, I kept finding different features I liked about each one. Agreed about Nomos and Sinn, and I especially like the high horology achieved by Nomos in their Lambda offerings. Cheers, Bill

[@JohnDoe-ub8fq]

Well done. And how accurate are these watches? Now we need a 'how low can you go' for any brand, with an in-house movement... Might be that Dornbluth & Sohne!!

[@watchartsci]

Hi John, thanks man! The Unitas 6497/8 run at 2.5 and 3Hz, but have good size balance wheels and the ones I've used are as accurate as others I own. Kindest regards, Bill

[@richarda9961]

Great video bill, although the setting of the jewel In Chatones is not really necessary it sure looks sharp and finishes of a fine movement .

[@watchartsci]

Hi Richard A, you're quite about the functionality of the finishing, but that's where you can see the craftsmanship and skill of the watchmaker! Cheers, Bill

[@Lloyd_Garth]

Such beauties! You perspicacious man, how do you find them? Thanks for all that valuable information.

[@watchartsci]

The way to find good watches, I believe Lloyd, is to look for good craftsmanship in all aspects of the watch. Kindest regards, Bill

[@TennesseeMike]

Hello Bill, I've been researching the Dornblueth and find the aesthetic very appealing. I'm confused on the movement. I thought I read it's a modified ETA. You mentioned it's an in house. So, am I correct in saying a modified ETA base can be considered a in house. As always thanks for sharing your knowledge. Regards, Mike

[@watchartsci]

Hi Mike, figuring out whether Dornblueth & Sohne is in-house or modified ETA is like nailing jelly to a tree. My thinking was that they modeled their movement after the ETA but had enough of their own movement elements to make it 'in-house'-or they had somehow come up with a movement on their own. It gets a little slippery and that does put me off their brand a little. Take care, Bill

[@ignasi6611]

I'd like you to add links to the oficial pages of those watchmakers and the contest. Great video!!

[@watchartsci]

Here you go Ignasi... what contest? The Grand Prix Picks? That's not until June. Jaeger & Benzinger jaeger-benzinger.com/index.php/home.html Dornblüeth und Sohn www.dornblueth.com Thomas Ninchritz uhrenmanufaktur-nuernberg.de/index.html Tourby www.tourbywatches.com Cornehl Watches cornehl-watches.com/en/home-2/ Rolf Lang Dresden rolf-lang-dresden.com Rolf Lang isn't under 4K CHF but an interesting example of German craftsmanship. Cheers, Bill

[@Tuneitupful]

You could, like everyone else does, google the watchmakers.

[@brunopcan]

Very interesting video, I didn't know you could get this sort of finishing for this price! But most of the watches are 42mm, do you know if there are similar brands that offer smaller watchers? Thank you!

[@watchartsci]

Hi Bruno, good question. They tend to be big because they're using Unitas/ETA 6498 movements, which are pretty big. About the smallest they can handle is 40mm for a the 36.60 mm movement width on 6497/8 movements. while I'm fine with a 40mm, it'd be nice to have something in 36-39 mm. An excellent ETA movements that's smaller (23.30mm) is the 7001. Hand wind, the Peseux 7001 was bought by ETA and is very popular because of its thinner and can be used in a wide variety of cases. Kindest regards, Bill

[@mdo5121]

Where would you put these shown highlighted watches under 4,000 in the tiers of horology low, medium, high etc.?

[@watchartsci]

Well, since all but the Dornblüth & Sohn use standard movements not of their own manufacture; they are Standard Horology with high horology flourishes in the engravings. If the caliber 99.0 (and the other 99.x) movement is a Dornblüth & Sohn manufacture, given everything else they have in their watches I'd say high horology. What do you think Michael? Kindest regards, Bill

[@derekgulec147]

Hi Bill, great video as always. How Tourby using 40mm case with that movement?

[@watchartsci]

Hi Derek, they may have got the domed crystal and were able to keep it down to 40mm. Not certain but that would be my hunch. Cheers, Bill

[@derekgulec147]

@@watchartsci Thanks for your answer. Other brands should do the same.For me 42mm is too big for dressy watch.

[@westleygreenhalf2338]

Isn't the caliber 99.0 also based on the Unitas? I know it has received a full make over, but it is not the caliber 2010, which is the completely in-house D&S movement, or the smaller 2016.

[@watchartsci]

Hi Westley, this was my suspicion and several years ago when I first discovered Dornblüeth und Sohn, I thought it was a warmed over 6498, but while it shares some of the Unitas/ETA 6498 characteristics, it's different enough to be genuinely a separate movement developed by D&S...here's some details ... especially the addition of double barrels, which 6498s do not have. “Q-2010 Klassik” & “Q-2010 Auf & Ab” (= the classical 3-hands-timepiece with the additional integrated power reserve indicator): diameter 34.3 mm • height 4,7 mm • 29 rubies • power reserve 52 hours • 18,000 semi-oscillations per hour (2,5 Hz) • in-house developed and created movement • double barrel with indirect driven, visible Maltese cross spring for almost linear torque of the power to the movement (patent pending) • classic short anchor escapement with a lower escape wheel • red gold plated, grained three-quarter plate with yellow gold plated hand-engraving of manufactory name and serial number • retracing ratchet • sunburst finish on winding wheels • Glucydur screw balance with Nivarox-1-Breguet-spring • swan-neck fine adjustment on the hand-engraved balance cock • screws flat polished, heat-blued, with beveled edges. -What do you think? Kindest regards, Bill

[@westleygreenhalf2338]

Yes, the Quintus are fully in house. It is the 99.x series that are based on the 6498.@@watchartsci

[@watchartsci]

Ah, I thought that was from the 99.0, but you're right, I quoted the wrong movement. More research required! (...by me). Thanks, Bill

[@lindabenson1739]

Looked at the Tourby watches and loved the Marine Arabic 40 and 43 - except I have a 6-1/2 watch and need more like 34-36 size. Wish they came in different sizes.

[@watchartsci]

Hi Linda, I found a great buy on a German watch for your size wrist-and they are very well priced starting at $1,500 US-the Nomos Club Campus. At 36mm, they sound about your size. This particular model has one of the more interesting 'California Dials'-Arabic on top and Roman on the bottom. Take a look and let me know what you think: nomos-glashuette.com/en/club/club-campus-708 . The Alpha movement is a Nomos in-house version of the Peseux/ETA 7001 - good solid hand-wound movement. (Here's some additional information on the California Dial- www.timepiecechronicle.com/features/2017/1/4/a-brief-history-of-the-california-dial ) Kindest regards, Bill

[@lindabenson1739]

@@watchartsci Hi Bill, thanks for the response! Funny you should mention Nomos - it's the first watch I fell in love with at a star in NY - the Tangente. Love and want the small second hand. The Tangente was too big and I didn't like the flat crystal and angled lugs, so eventually found my way to the Orion. They do have a 33 with the blue hands, which I liked, but decided it was too formal for everyday wear. Hence, went to the Club. Didn't like the California dial much, so was thinking of the 36 Club ref 701/703 - which has all arabic numbers but apparently is being discontinued. I tried on the 36 Club in a store with the California dial, and it's almost too big, because the lugs are so long and leave a space between the watch and band that I don't like (though the lugs are more curvy which is nice). Also, typo on my wrist size, think it's more like 6-1/4, though I"m not sure I"m measuring right. So it seems a lot of the vintage watches were smaller, though I"m afraid to try that because of horror stories and recommendations to stay away from that until I get more experience (this is my first watch). So I"m hoping maybe Nomos will make one someday with smaller lugs and maybe a 33 in the Club - if that were the case I might go with the California dial. Long story long (:-)) - still on the hunt. Enjoying your videos!

[@watchartsci]

Hi Linda, I'll keep an eye out for you. A lot of times I come across a really good watch that I cannot recommend to the guys because it's too small, but knowing the size you like, I'll keep you in mind. Kindest regards, Bill

[@lindabenson1739]

@@watchartsci Thank you very much, Bill - I appreciate it!

[@ianboard544]

The Dornbluth is on my list.

[@watchartsci]

Hi Ian, perhaps it is time to have an update on Dornblueth & Sohn...Take care, Bill

[@ianboard544]

@@watchartsci Yes please.

[@ivansmith4242]

Are these standard horology, high horology or exceptional horology?

[@watchartsci]

Hi Ivan...good question, but a tough one. While all meet the High Horology standard of finishing, only Dornbleuth & Sohn have their own movement. So D&S would be High Horology while the others would be Standard. However, keep in mind that the tiers are for collectors; not for watch manufacturers. What do you think the best way to characterize these watches would be? Thanks, Bill

[@ivansmith4242]

@@watchartsci these kinds of pieces always are difficult to classify. The retail prices are way too low for the watch illuminati to hold any value in their minds.

[@watchartsci]

Ivan, high prices and watch illuminati don't go together... You know, you're pretty 'illuminati' and you're no snob! Good watches depend on horological value; not price. Take care, Bill

[@ivansmith4242]

@@watchartsci i agree with you. The realties of the market place can't be ignored after all a life time worth of collecting should leave one with something of value even if it is just sentiment.

[@ivansmith4242]

I always meant to ask you sir how you would classify entry level pieces such as the saxonia from Lange. Seeing as they are not very innovative in their approach is their value solely based on finishing to the highest degree and the reputation of the brand for producing haute pieces?

[@cedarcanoe]

Are you familiar with Andreas Hentschel Uhren from Hamburg?

[@watchartsci]

Hi Erik, love the looks of the Hentschel, and perhaps I'm a little too careful in recognizing brand-created movements. There's no doubt in my mind that Hentschel manufactures their movements, but I suppose I'm wondering to what extent Hentschel adopted the ETA and/or Schild movements. For example, the H1 Chronometer manufactures the HUW 1130 P. that's based on Swiss Schild AS 1130. Their prices, except for the gold-cased models, are all reasonable and under 10K CHF...usually way under. I think they're a good watch to bring up on Monday's VestPocket Video. What do you think? Take care, Bill

[@cedarcanoe]

@@watchartsci I would love that

[@stoneruler]

I just wish tourby would make models under 40mm.

[@watchartsci]

More and more companies are introducing 36mm watches, Oilblin. Better yet, some older (but not yet vintage ) watches are 37mm. Given the popularity of 40+mm watches, you can always negotiate down with the smaller ones. Take care and be safe, Bill 😷

[@andystuart4667]

I wish I'd known about Thomas Ninchritz before

[@watchartsci]

I guess it's better late than never, Andy. Take care and be safe, Bill😷

[@thomashendrick6711]

Well since you asked as usual, for us to speak our minds this time l'm gonna, l've wanted any one of these, and others you have shown us for a lon, but as I quickly found out, and as you mentioned in the first of your videos I saw last year, the issue that I have never been able to find a significantly lower price on aaannyyy of the lleeaasstt expensive of the lowest tear of high hourology watches!:[ LOL

[@watchartsci]

I know Thomas, and you're right. We've worked out a partial solution using the power of a group to create and purchase watches. After June, I'll be able to tell you more. Take care, Bill

[@mcanderson0]

Pro tip: write all the difficult words on a sheet of paper in front of you so you can glance down so you dont lose your rhythm trying to remember the word you need. Im ADD AF, so if im prepping a talk or whatnot i sometimes do this.

[@watchartsci]

Hey McAnderson; thanks man! I'll give that a try. Take care, Bill

[@ForbinColossus]

You touched on a number of sub-topics here that sent me searching - and it began with "gold chatons". Nomos has its own series called 'Handmade by NOMOS Glashütte'. Have a look at the polishing of gold chatons done with what looks to me like half of a cork! Oh, the tedium of going from one polishing compound to another: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmPOdo1uiNOgntk While we prefer hand-winding, the Nomos description of their thin *3.2mm* DUW-3001 automatic is really something: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWOxfqKdaq-Ip80

[@watchartsci]

Hey FC, thanks for the Nomos tips. I'm a huge fan of the Nomos Lambda HH watches, but their price was way out of range of this group. Cheers, Bill

[@GizmoTNL]

Inspiring video. I’m surprised that the Canaletto in Black (Rolf Lang Dresden) doesn’t have the snailing on barrel while the Calibre 99.0 from Dornblueth & Sohn does (amazing what they can offer at that pricepoint). From a certain pricepoint I would expect certain decorations. I also noticed that most of the shown watches had onion crowns. Is this because these are manual wind watches and it makes them easier to wind?

[@watchartsci]

Hi Gizmo, thanks man! Rolf Lang Dresden does make an elegant movement, though, and I suppose he had to leave something out to distinguish the two movements. What I'm hoping is that Rolf Lang will create a stainless steel model under $10k, and you're right about Dornblüeth & Sohn. As for the onion-shaped crowns, I think you're right. They're easier to wind, but unfortunately have a higher profile to get bumped! My own personal preference are the onion-shaped crowns too! Cheers ,Bill

[@rumblejungle5590]

Interesting finds. Habring doesn't count I guess since he's Austrian.

[@everyones.shadow]

And has a very different take on movement decoration. More in the Swiss style.

[@watchartsci]

Hey RumbleJ! Habring2 is a tad over 4k, and you see more of the Bauhaus treatment of the movement rather than the pre-Bauhaus decorations found in the ones we discussed. However ... with me, Habring always counts! Kindest regard, Bill

[@rumblejungle5590]

Hi Bill. Goodness, just looked at them and they're at a different price point. More hand-made parts or more manufacturing hours , I assume. Best regards.