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Rolex vs Grand Seiko - GMT Watches | Watchfinder & Co.

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@watchfinder
@watchfinder 10 ай бұрын
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@alungcugil
@alungcugil 4 жыл бұрын
The Rolex second hand is moving like 1080p 30fps, while Seiko is at 60fps in 4K..
@maddee2548
@maddee2548 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahh accurately put sir
@TheRunningManZ
@TheRunningManZ 4 жыл бұрын
Equally if you put the Rolex to your ear you will hear the equivalent of a classic turntable with a decent stylus playing an original print. If you put the GS to your ear you are hearing a low bitrate stream of the same song via soundcloud. I own a Spring Drive and a Rolex. They are both great but they are different. The GS is way more accurate and better finished too. But when you wind it it feels like winding up a kinder egg toy. It isn’t truely mechanical in the same sense a Zenith El Primero is or a Rolex is etc. Some people don’t care abt that, some people do.
@1BergerVongSchlauigkeitHer
@1BergerVongSchlauigkeitHer 4 жыл бұрын
It's more like 8 fps vs 32768 fps, really.
@Statutum
@Statutum 4 жыл бұрын
​@@TheRunningManZ Odd that winding the main spring would feel so different. A watch's escapement does not impact the tactile feedback of the power train (which operates the same between the Rolex and GS SD). I disagree with those who believe the conversion of kinetic energy into electrical, and it's usage via a self attenuating mechanism in the spring drive escapement, removes the watch from the truly mechanical category. We can attribute nostalgia, and feelings of quality, what is right and what isn't to anything, and it's unfortunate the cool new kid on the block is now being bullied in this foreign sense.
@oes2546
@oes2546 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheRunningManZ Nah, SD is high bit rate 😉
@DutchClawz
@DutchClawz 4 жыл бұрын
Im sorry but giving Rolex “Mechanical complexiness” over the springdrive isnt fair in my opinion. The springdrive has much more innovation and is a pretty complex creation I think..
@vincent5
@vincent5 4 жыл бұрын
You don't have to be sorry ;)
@user-jd2zs8ql1v
@user-jd2zs8ql1v 4 жыл бұрын
Spring drive is a 50+ year old technology, it’s a new innovation but considering the computer age and everything, I’d think there is EVEN BETTER technology than SD...
@rctezluh42069
@rctezluh42069 4 жыл бұрын
lexus or rolls royce, fair comparison analogy?
@CleanClaspCollector
@CleanClaspCollector 4 жыл бұрын
T G it’s not. 20 years old and far more advanced than any 3-4 hander automatic
@purplefabian
@purplefabian 4 жыл бұрын
RC Robinson-san GS=Lexus, Rolex=Mercedes Benz, AP is Porsche, Patek and Lange is Rollsroyce and Maybach
@mattsmiley8156
@mattsmiley8156 4 жыл бұрын
Grand Seiko is a truly aspirational piece for me. I can't see myself wanting to spend more than that on a watch. That smooth sweep and the attention to detail. For me it's a no brainer.
@julienfroidevaux1143
@julienfroidevaux1143 Жыл бұрын
That sweep is truly unbelievable and mesmerising.
@arnabdeb6904
@arnabdeb6904 4 жыл бұрын
That spring drive sweep is soooo damn satisfying even in a video.
@ryanpatterson9526
@ryanpatterson9526 4 жыл бұрын
"There's so much more to being human than logic." Wise words
@diogeneslantern18
@diogeneslantern18 4 жыл бұрын
Behavioral Economics :)
@MrTrincent
@MrTrincent 2 жыл бұрын
Strong words. They got me too.
@dominikkromer2218
@dominikkromer2218 4 жыл бұрын
6:40 WTF was this Sound Effect Please NEVER EVER do this again
@cerealkiller7143
@cerealkiller7143 4 жыл бұрын
It was a joke. Not the funniest one but a joke.
@andrewc1036
@andrewc1036 4 жыл бұрын
Seriously wtf was that?
@Gogugogugogu
@Gogugogugogu 4 жыл бұрын
pull the stick out of you ass, man.
@Gausdave213
@Gausdave213 4 жыл бұрын
@@Gogugogugogu If my name was dominik id feel the same
@JTMarlin8
@JTMarlin8 4 жыл бұрын
@@Gogugogugogu He can't. It's in there sideways and permanently.
@spode747
@spode747 4 жыл бұрын
Twenty-eight years ago, I bought my first Rolex GMT. For the next twenty years I was a Rolex fanboy, and a bit of a watch snob. Fast forward to today, and I’m very lucky to own the Batman and the Grand Seiko GMT in titanium. Which one give me more pleasure? It’s the Grand Seiko every time.
@msbrownbeast
@msbrownbeast 3 жыл бұрын
With each generation, Rolex watches was getting heavier. Today's Batman is much heavier than the GMT 1675 or 16750. It's time for Rolex to consider offering TItanium versions.
@joshuasterling2144
@joshuasterling2144 3 жыл бұрын
@Junior Mudd Sir what time is it? Time for you to be robbed...lol
@lilgooey169
@lilgooey169 3 жыл бұрын
boo
@lethean1757
@lethean1757 3 жыл бұрын
boo
@superash82
@superash82 3 жыл бұрын
For me, Rolex is for watches what Moët is for champagne….. the brand people choose when they have no idea. There’s definitely a brand tax added to Rolex
@ThomasTucker11
@ThomasTucker11 4 жыл бұрын
I own a number of watches, but my SBGC003 spring drive GMT chronograph is by far my favorite. Truly a masterpiece, kudos to Seiko for such a magnificent piece of engineering and artisanship.
@MrMohaa1234
@MrMohaa1234 4 жыл бұрын
I just can’t get over how smooth the second hand on the GS. It’s incredible
@petershallis2294
@petershallis2294 4 жыл бұрын
Either would be fine, if funds allowed...but I just can’t ignore the innovation and sheer quality finish of the Seiko.
@gokulswami
@gokulswami 4 жыл бұрын
How you guys make the watches look a hundred times better than in person is amazing. Clarity of recordings is tremendous........great work
@adbirdk
@adbirdk 4 жыл бұрын
To me, the Grand Seiko needs to get a better clasp, and be slightly thinner. I don't know if it's a big enough deal when you're actually wearing it.
@DutchClawz
@DutchClawz 4 жыл бұрын
I own one. Thickness isnt a problem. To me the onl thint that should be updated is the clasp. There is no microadjustment and that paired with the clasp makes it grab your shirt when the bracelet is slightly too loose or tight.
@VictorUlgenes
@VictorUlgenes 4 жыл бұрын
I have one of these and it's phenomenal
@rousseau327
@rousseau327 4 жыл бұрын
@@DutchClawz Tried one on at a dealer, and felt that Grand Seiko handled the thickness very well, definitely wears smaller in both diameter and thickness. However, when you try on a 40mm Rolex at 12mm thick, the fitment is just completely different.
@graemearmstead9237
@graemearmstead9237 4 жыл бұрын
GS clasps are actually quite good in real life.
@vgcamara
@vgcamara 3 жыл бұрын
I just picked up a GS snowflake and I'm gladly surprised at how well ot sits on my small 16.5 cm wrists. the thickness is just enough for me. as for the clasp I also thought it was flimsy at the beginning but after wearing for a few days, it's actually pretty good. tolerances are right and nothing rattles. I think the lightness of the titanium makes it feel cheaper than it really is
@theprince08853
@theprince08853 4 жыл бұрын
I love that last line. "There is so much more to being human than logic"
@jamespalsson746
@jamespalsson746 4 жыл бұрын
Grand Seiko are so classy, but their watches are too big. Rolex get most of their dimensions right.
@SpaghettiKillah
@SpaghettiKillah 4 жыл бұрын
I've been saying this for a long time. There's a size and thickness problem in GS 's catalog. Yes they have some "finer" watches but they're far between. Most are too chunky !
@omarsaletovicprins9632
@omarsaletovicprins9632 4 жыл бұрын
A. B. yeah its funny. some of their chronos, which will never be picked over an omega or g shock as a tool/dive watch, are 44mm!!
@stephenmeade8501
@stephenmeade8501 4 жыл бұрын
@A. B. I guess it's tough to slim down the spring drive movement... They make regular automatic GMT's in smaller cases, though these are usually dressier.
@brianc8148
@brianc8148 4 жыл бұрын
agreed. if GS shrunk all their watches by 2mm, I think they would actually compete for enthusiast dollars over Rolex.
@AlexxxxxSaysHi
@AlexxxxxSaysHi 4 жыл бұрын
@@stephenmeade8501 The automatic are monsters aswell. The problem is that they are usually 40mm, a pretty good diameter, but 13.5mm or more thickness, which is quite tubby already, but for a very dressy watch it's just far too thick. The GS divers are much nicer, they are 44mm and spread their thickness over a larger area and yet maintain a relatively compact lug to lug. I think they need to focus on bringing out larger diameter movements, most of them are quite small even for a 40mm case, spread the mechanics over a larger area and thin out the watch. But GS hasn't really had a large movement overhaul since they were first released so it's unlikely to happen.
@vtheglad9266
@vtheglad9266 4 жыл бұрын
This is why Watchfinder & Co. is my favorite watch reviewer. History (check), Microscopic detail (check), Opinion (uncheck). Rolex makes Rolex, Seiko makes Seiko, Grand Seiko and Credor. Watchmaker can make a masterpiece and a $35 movement and everything within the watch world all the way to minute repeater of Credor. I say I tip my hat to Seiko as a watchmaker.
@MrPINKFL0YD
@MrPINKFL0YD 4 жыл бұрын
ROLEX MAKES ROLEX AND TUDOR
@andychang7137
@andychang7137 4 жыл бұрын
the problem for GS is they really miss a lot of important design elements: watch too big, mediocre bracelet also all their watch are either for dress (no glow indexes) or for sports only not like Rolex : sports watch is also good for dress watch they have good techniques but the design and marketing are way behind
@FeelingPeculiar
@FeelingPeculiar 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly right
@GP-jx3ex
@GP-jx3ex 4 жыл бұрын
Seiko and GS just have to much different models en lines ! They need to narrow down there line
@LuisFranciscoAguilar
@LuisFranciscoAguilar 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@arjdroid
@arjdroid 4 жыл бұрын
You got it spot on!
@MrThehardway
@MrThehardway 4 жыл бұрын
Not only that, but talk to any GS owner that wears their watch daily...that finishing on the titanium case, bracelet, and clasp looks totally dogged out by scratches with everyday wear...
@boerni01
@boerni01 4 жыл бұрын
Sold the GS after a few days and lost a lot of money, but was glad to find a buyer. The GS is way to big and the clasp is a nogo in this segment. I love my RLX GMT, no reason to keep the GS.
@jamiemorgan2972
@jamiemorgan2972 4 жыл бұрын
The only Rolex I’d actually want against the only GS I don’t.
@nicsamazingpinballchannel7688
@nicsamazingpinballchannel7688 4 жыл бұрын
The most perfect comment, right here.
@amorembalming
@amorembalming 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! You have found the words I have been struggling with here!
@beluwuga
@beluwuga 4 жыл бұрын
I meant! Mhmm
@pandemonium274
@pandemonium274 4 жыл бұрын
Potential Customer: Hello Rolex AD, I have considered your GMT and a fine Grand Seiko. I like yours better and would like to buy one. Rolex AD: Have you bought watches from us before? Potential Customer: Well, no, I haven't.... Rolex AD: Let me put you on our waiting list and we MIGHT call you if we get a spare one in. Potential Customer: I don't like your attitude. I can walk in and get a Grand Seiko today. Rolex AD: Tut Tut. You just don't get it. Go away now. Potential customer buys the Grand Seiko and vows never to do business with Rolex again...
@kronikinsomniak
@kronikinsomniak 4 жыл бұрын
Thats not how luxury veblen goods work.
@arbiterofreason2068
@arbiterofreason2068 4 жыл бұрын
This is me. I want a quality steel sports but don't fancy getting bummed in the preowned market...and going to a Rolex ad is pointless because I actually want a watch, not no watch.
@ficwith3
@ficwith3 4 жыл бұрын
Nailed it. The idea of just choosing, and walking away with, a new Batman is a happy fiction. Of course, it might be different if you deal in pre-owned...
@JLchevz
@JLchevz 4 жыл бұрын
do you really think you know better than Rolex?
@perplex103
@perplex103 4 жыл бұрын
@@arbiterofreason2068 give it another 1-2 months and a major economic crash and watch availability jump up and market prices jump down. Might as well make the best of a bad situation
@ganeshraj769
@ganeshraj769 4 жыл бұрын
7:17 to 8:24. The impeccable level of detail on grand Seiko. There are lot more of such details, you just need to keep looking. In craft and quality , the grand Seiko clearly outperforms the Rolex. If you're going to pick the Rolex anyway, why make the comparison at all?
@chinchinche
@chinchinche 4 жыл бұрын
It's a good day when watchfinder releases a new video.
@ehsandarian2301
@ehsandarian2301 4 жыл бұрын
I always vote for GS.but not this time.ROLEX is just perfect in size and shape.
@davidevans2653
@davidevans2653 4 жыл бұрын
I know it's all just personal but for me the Rolex proportions are wrong, the bezel dominates, its two wide and over shadows the dial
@perplex103
@perplex103 4 жыл бұрын
@ Until I see someone actually diving with a GS, in my opinion it would've been a better bet to cater to the mainstream audience
@rousseau327
@rousseau327 4 жыл бұрын
@ I'd argue there are more people who take their Submariner or Seiko SKX diving than they are Grand Seikos.
@jeffreyb.1657
@jeffreyb.1657 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Had the chance to select either of these recently. Had always wanted a Rolex GMT, Pepsi. Did my research. Checked them both out...had a AO with each.....and funds. Was actually leaning Rolex before checking them both out. Researched the movements, etc. I bought the Seiko. It is truly a better watch.
@philipdenner8504
@philipdenner8504 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, i own a GS GMT spring drive and i believe it to be far superior to the Rolex.
@scheusselmensch5713
@scheusselmensch5713 4 жыл бұрын
By the by, the power reserve indicator is actually useful, the reason being that winding either watch down screws up the local and UTC relationship. If you are doing work that requires you to take your watch off, it's nice to be able to tell at a glance if you should wind it manually.
@jbbrabant
@jbbrabant 4 жыл бұрын
Loved the video. This time I came prepared with a drooling towel thus avoiding messing my phone screen. I chose the GS GMT Spring Drive & I’m thrilled to the eyebrows. It’s a beautiful wristwatch. It has a mechanical movement with quartz accuracy & no battery. The main spring powers the movement but electronics regulates its accuracy.
@100yugiohtrader
@100yugiohtrader 4 жыл бұрын
If only the grand seiko was slightly smaller, a grand seiko diver 40mm would be extremely desirable
@mrsir1872
@mrsir1872 3 жыл бұрын
and with a 3 o clock date window/crown
@respina1254
@respina1254 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrsir1872 agreed. The 4 o'clock date puts me off
@philipyang3331
@philipyang3331 4 жыл бұрын
There is no competition here. The Rolex GMT is clearly the better looking watch. The fact that Seiko dares not price it above Rolex says it all. Many reviewers think that comparing Seiko with the other Swiss established brands is doing Seiko a favour. Quite the opposite because when I am bombarded day and night with Seiko ads, I get so sick that I tell myself never to buy a Seiko, any Seiko.
@cheeeeezewizzz
@cheeeeezewizzz 2 жыл бұрын
Really? I'm not seeing the same watches. That Rolex is so busy with its design. And there is that hideous magnification window. I definitely think the Seiko is more eye catching and more attractive
@verdict1163
@verdict1163 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think the Grand Seiko design quite works. There are too many clashing design elements, it looks like 3 different watches.
@steelwarrior105
@steelwarrior105 4 жыл бұрын
The power reserve needs to die
@snyggmikael
@snyggmikael 4 жыл бұрын
Yea and the links and clasp design makes it look cheap. It's to much detail all around.
@Denis-bq8kr
@Denis-bq8kr 4 жыл бұрын
Right? For example, I don't understand why they've put SEIKO on top and Grand Seiko on the bottom?
@ivanovooko
@ivanovooko 4 жыл бұрын
@@Denis-bq8kr they have been doing that since forever. it is superfluous, but they obviously do not care. would never buy a grand seiko.
@juniorjr5328
@juniorjr5328 4 жыл бұрын
That's why I have three sports rolex and no grand seiko. But i have three of the sarb series seiko. No GS.
@stephenmeade8501
@stephenmeade8501 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like the GS would be a slam dunk winner if they could get it to have the same size specifications as the Rolex.
@stefanfreestylez
@stefanfreestylez 4 жыл бұрын
Ya easily just needs a lil 'tune up' on the bracelt and clasp haha soooo badically the rolex beats it out in many aspects :p
@dann1981
@dann1981 4 жыл бұрын
Can search on AliExpress for a Rolex GMT copy. Haven't seen copies of the Grand Seiko.
@otreblam.875
@otreblam.875 4 жыл бұрын
I love GS, but c'mon, man... That Batman is gorgeous 🔥
@onepoh4680
@onepoh4680 4 жыл бұрын
The Rolex looks way better as an "sporty" watch, I like some Grand Seiko but the Batman, the Cellini Moon Phase, and the Datejust gray dial are my favorites watches from Rolex.
@arjdroid
@arjdroid 4 жыл бұрын
You are a man of great taste! I completely agree with your opinions about those three Rolexes!
@wheelsandwatches
@wheelsandwatches 4 жыл бұрын
As always the GS is just too thick. They need to make thinner watches to win more fans.
@Statutum
@Statutum 4 жыл бұрын
This is the first valid complaint about the GS I have read so far.
@Neonregenesis
@Neonregenesis 4 жыл бұрын
For me it’s the bracelet. I don’t like the complexity of it. Like Omégas,you have 3 unpolished parts and two small polished one. I’d rather have something more simple. It’s too round as well IMO.
@arghjayem
@arghjayem 4 жыл бұрын
Plus it has the power reserve indicator which I don’t think looks good on any watch. Just looks cheap and unnecessary and clutters the face.
@michaelbishop9157
@michaelbishop9157 4 жыл бұрын
thickness and the awful bracelets
@McFunson
@McFunson 4 жыл бұрын
When GS release a 39mm Snowflake GMT it'll be a more interesting battle. And yes I'm aware of the SBGE209.
@tonp2917
@tonp2917 4 жыл бұрын
I think the quality of the GS is great, Rolex is maybe a little less but still great. But, and for me it is a great but, the Rolex looks so much nicer on the naked eye. The GS, and I see it also in some GS divers, is badly balanced, not beautiful. They do not always please the (my) eyes. So for me no GS.
@Ronaldalan114
@Ronaldalan114 4 жыл бұрын
MrT Baracus I’m a huge GS fan. I prefer GS to almost every other brand, but in this video, between these two watches, I must agree, the Rolex is better balanced aesthetically, thus more visually pleasing. You got it 100% correct in my opinion.
@justinszabo5205
@justinszabo5205 4 жыл бұрын
I agree - I like a few GS's of course, but some the design is just a bit all over the place compared to the simple perfection of the Batman
@thp94001
@thp94001 3 жыл бұрын
Completely agree with your thought. I would pick the Rolex. It just looks more pleasing to the eyes for me than the GS.
@leward
@leward 3 жыл бұрын
That smooth sweep on the Grand Seiko speaks to me.
@SalvatoreCaruso24
@SalvatoreCaruso24 4 жыл бұрын
As a materials engineer studying surface treatments, I have to say that it's a pleasure to listen to all the details of this review. Just wish the upload would be more frequent, I'm addicted to your content mr Watchfinder!
@ewhyte8059
@ewhyte8059 4 жыл бұрын
To be successful in the entertainment industry they have to leave us wanting more👀🙃
@wl7915
@wl7915 4 жыл бұрын
Finally my be loved SBGE001 is on the show. Thank you Watchfinder & Co., you made my insomnia night so much better than it is
@mrnnangammbi9442
@mrnnangammbi9442 4 жыл бұрын
I dont know if its because im younger - but the look of GS is more eye catching
@malikknows3510
@malikknows3510 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, and that is esp. the case when the light catches that sapphire bezel. Wow, that's a sight!
@wpc6608
@wpc6608 4 жыл бұрын
It's not your age, I'm 71 and I think the GS looks more refined. BTW, I have both the Batman and the Batgirl and I just bought a new GS GMT. Couldn't stand the fact that it is a better watched in the rolex, needed to have it.
@ewhyte8059
@ewhyte8059 4 жыл бұрын
wpc good on ya!
@muhammadikmalfitribinghaza7061
@muhammadikmalfitribinghaza7061 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't that GS watch bezel is made it by sapphire crystal?
@pramudyobayupamungkas1509
@pramudyobayupamungkas1509 4 жыл бұрын
At a glance the Rolex GMT just feels so right
@Sandouras
@Sandouras 4 жыл бұрын
Pramudyo Bayu Pamungkas Could it look any more generic?
@tyngshen28
@tyngshen28 4 жыл бұрын
@@Sandouras the only reason it looks "generic" is that everyone else is copying their design - imitation is the best form of flattery.
@campkira
@campkira 4 жыл бұрын
until you goot them and t feel too small...
@TheChadWork2001
@TheChadWork2001 4 жыл бұрын
I've noticed that when seen under macro, Rolex doesn't hold up anywhere as well as Grand Seiko.
@flaggerify
@flaggerify 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the opposite.
@Scorpions824
@Scorpions824 4 жыл бұрын
This is like the national geographic channel of watches
@Markus__B
@Markus__B 4 жыл бұрын
To be honest, as fantastic as GS are, they will always feel Seiko. No problem if it´s your 12th watch but if one would have to decide between these two for the first one it´s hard not to get a Rolex. Look at it in Car Terms, if i had to choose between an Audi R8 and an Aston Martin Vantage i´d always choose the Aston. R8 feels too much like an Audi, even though it´s a fantastic and probably better Car.
@FuturesS3
@FuturesS3 3 жыл бұрын
I can think of no KZbin video on watches that can compare with Watchfinder & Co. Well done.
@FazerWiz
@FazerWiz 4 жыл бұрын
The Grand Seiko's accuracy isn't 2 seconds a day - it's 1/2 a second a day, a maximum of 15 seconds per month, but almost always far less than that.
@FazerWiz
@FazerWiz 4 жыл бұрын
@pyrotechnic5254 It seems to matter to those in broadcasting where they do operate to the second, but in general I agree. However if it doesn't matter, why mention it? I'm only correcting because it is mentioned and it's factually wrong.
@sethmoyer
@sethmoyer 3 жыл бұрын
I finally got an SBGE001 like the one in this video after drooling over them for nearly 10 years, and I can confidently say that as long as you're not overly concerned about the thickness it does not disappoint. I had a Seiko Sumo before and this similarly wears smaller than its actual dimensions and is super comfortable.
@mr.aleximer
@mr.aleximer 2 жыл бұрын
Living our dreams.
@sethmoyer
@sethmoyer 2 жыл бұрын
@@mr.aleximer If you keep an eye out and are patient it's possible to get a really good deal on these! I specifically waited for the 001 with the SEIKO branding at the top, but if you're willing to get the 201 that has the newer GS logo at the top then that more than doubles the possibilities. I got mine with an extra bezel (I've heard these are $500 but also impossible to find) and just coming off a fresh service at the GS USA service center for $3,750. If you're patient enough I bet you could get an even better deal than that!
@crouchylovescars6767
@crouchylovescars6767 4 жыл бұрын
As you rightly mention with GS the detail is key. I am fortunate enough to own both brands (and in the current world climate I genuinely mean fortunate enough - after all they are only trinkets), and the finish on my GS 60th anniversary is impeccable. The Zaratsu polishing is like nothing I have ever seen elsewhere and the deep blue of the dial is like looking into the sea - just so much depth. I like a little colour on my watches as the watch can look so different depending on light. My Hulk comes alive in sunlight, but the GS dial is a game changer - especially with the Zaratsu polished hands and dials markers (who else would Zaratsu polish the reverse of the hands so that when they cross you can see this has been done) contrasting with the depth of the blue dial. In short, this competition will never happen in the modern real world of watch brand snobbery and resale values. Your pre-owned Rolex will sell at a huge premium - if you have a purchase history and can get one at retail - and (most if not all) pre-owned GS’ sell at a loss. Until Grand Seiko can make their brand as aspirational in Europe as Rolex they will never compete. If you want something of the very highest quality that does not attract the ‘wrong’ attention, and that you can actually buy without a wait (or massive premium), then it will be Grand Seiko. If you want something that says look I’m successful because I have a Rolex, well there is your answer. Sorry for the rambling comment (bored with my isolation having had COVID 19), love the videos though - particularly the less usual brands. Great to inform people that the watch world isn’t just about Rolex. Maybe something about Möser in the future?
@MichaelAChang
@MichaelAChang 4 жыл бұрын
Grand Seiko's spring drive will presumably require less servicing, and its timekeeping will retain its accuracy far better.
@roaminggene2619
@roaminggene2619 4 жыл бұрын
This review missed a key element: the GS has the 24-hour scale on the dial as well as the bezel, allowing for instant reading of time in 3 time zones. The GMT Master II owners claim to be able to do the same, but I don't see how you can do it instantly without doing some math since the dial has no 24-hour scale.
@speedy1001
@speedy1001 4 жыл бұрын
SEIKO have to improvise their "eyecatching" side to win the game!
@arbiterofreason2068
@arbiterofreason2068 4 жыл бұрын
Tell that to the snowflake or their new seasons range!
@vulekv93
@vulekv93 4 жыл бұрын
Improvise? Do you even English?
@big_boy_chris
@big_boy_chris 4 жыл бұрын
@@arbiterofreason2068 Personal opinion of mine but aside from the dial itself and the movement of a GS, the rest of the watch isn't the most aesthetically pleasing tbh. The sandwich power gauge is someone only a mother can love. The clasps are surprisingly bad for the price. Watch is a little too thick and throws off the proportions. Bracelet is a little mundane.
@okihaveaname
@okihaveaname 4 жыл бұрын
But ...Seiko copied that ugly rolex 'cyclops' bump to their divers. Both are flawed.
@rousseau327
@rousseau327 4 жыл бұрын
@@arbiterofreason2068 Those are admittedly great, but they compete more with the Datejust, whereas the market right now is focused heavily on sports watches. Grand Seikos fall seriously flat in that department
@michaelyounes29
@michaelyounes29 4 жыл бұрын
Rolex GMT everyday. I dispise the power indicator on the GS and the Bezel on the GS doesn't look right. IMO
@Gigipreppy2012
@Gigipreppy2012 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid! I just noticed that GS has the 24 hour markers on the inner chapter ring, so you really can track 3 time zones! I wish the GS was a bit thinner / sleek and less bulky. I’ve been wanting to try the spring drive, but the designs just don’t speak to me
@898688tim
@898688tim 4 жыл бұрын
to me Grand Seiko wins hands down. that smooth second hand s beautiful
@conqwiztadore2213
@conqwiztadore2213 4 жыл бұрын
Ok grandpa
@thp94001
@thp94001 3 жыл бұрын
To me I look at the entire package than just a few details. The Rolex overall looks more pleasing to my eyes than the GS. Somehow the Rolex looks more "balance" (hard to describe).
@caosdeterministico
@caosdeterministico 4 жыл бұрын
As much as I'm in love with the amazing quality of GS, on this one I would go for the perfect design and wearability of the Rolex.
@davenamba
@davenamba 3 жыл бұрын
Grand Seiko at first glance is more polished and refined. The movement is top quality.
@shooter_danyela
@shooter_danyela 4 жыл бұрын
6:39 Threw me off! I thought there was a crash outside my office, or the flintstones were stopping ny.
@tthien93
@tthien93 4 жыл бұрын
Although I usually prefer GS, I'm surprised that there seems to be an imperfection on the GS at 4:08 compared to how clean the rolex's hands look
@ewhyte8059
@ewhyte8059 4 жыл бұрын
Very sharp observation, unless it’s a spot of moisture on the sapphire crystal and light projecting it onto the hand that is very disturbing.
@MrSaadmubarak
@MrSaadmubarak 4 жыл бұрын
"After all, there's so much more to being human than logic" I love that!
@cakraparindra4659
@cakraparindra4659 4 жыл бұрын
This is a powerful message..
@Lavi-Aemilia-Astori
@Lavi-Aemilia-Astori 3 жыл бұрын
This just got all the negative part of the rolex GMT people told me out of my head
@SM-os6wq
@SM-os6wq 4 жыл бұрын
I had a shift in mentality last few days. I already have a Grand Seiko GMT and I have been thinking of adding a Swiss watch for some variety. Though the more I thought about the current world Corona crisis the less I liked spending so frivolously. I’m a young doctor who also happens to have a financial background. I’m on the front lines, working extra to cover for my colleagues during this challenging times. The past couple of months in the stock market have been absolute bonkers for me and I have plenty of life left to make money. But I can’t justify spending money on a Patek Phillipe, ALS or a Audemara Piaget anymore. I took the the disposable income I was planning on using for my purchase and donated it to my local community hospital. It’s enough to buy PPE’s for the medical and nursing staff for the next two months. No watch, Swiss luxury or otherwise, is worth that. I’ll have plenty of time to make and spend on another watch. But to be honest, I wouldn’t respect myself if I did. If there was only one luxury watch I was going to own for the rest of my life, I’m glad it’s the brand I already have, a Grand Seiko.
@lukashauer
@lukashauer 4 жыл бұрын
Usually I am all for Grand Seiko (especially Spring Drive), but there's is something incredibly spectacular about the Batman. I honestly don't know what it is exactly, but it just feels ... right, i guess.
@arbiterofreason2068
@arbiterofreason2068 4 жыл бұрын
it brings out your inner child whilst the gs makes you have to adult.
@ewhyte8059
@ewhyte8059 4 жыл бұрын
Arbiter Of Reason interesting perspective.
@arbiterofreason2068
@arbiterofreason2068 4 жыл бұрын
@@ewhyte8059 i think that's why women don't like hulks etc
@georgepatrick4339
@georgepatrick4339 4 жыл бұрын
In terms of build quality it has to be the Grand Seiko in terms of “street cred” it’s the Rolex
@rousseau327
@rousseau327 4 жыл бұрын
Build quality is vague, and the GS doesn't have every aspect of the build quality down. The finishing, GS takes the cake. But with it comes to things like bezel action, bracelet feel, robustness, the Rolex comes ahead.
@darylwardsnyder4406
@darylwardsnyder4406 4 жыл бұрын
Exceptional review. Thanks for calling out all the details. I own both Rolex and Grand Seiko. But the Rolex Batman is the better watch in this comparison based on two criteria: face and bracelet. The bracelet on the Rolex is exceptionally well engineered and manufactured. The spring-loaded clasp on the Grand Seiko feels a little too mass produced. Even if I owned the GMT Master II, I wouldn’t buy this Grand Seiko model. The power reserve ruins its otherwise classic design.
@NallePu83
@NallePu83 4 жыл бұрын
Rolex or Grand Seiko.... Toilet paper, guns and ammo!
@BobBoyd1
@BobBoyd1 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Constructively, the tire screech effect definitely felt out of place with the Watchfinder vibe IMHO.
@GeorgeFrideric71
@GeorgeFrideric71 4 жыл бұрын
Kind of sounds like someone is showing symptoms. I hope you're doing OK Watchfinder Dude.
@SuperCarcher
@SuperCarcher 4 жыл бұрын
Is it the same guy? Sounds different
@stevejlouis5446
@stevejlouis5446 4 жыл бұрын
I have the SBGE201G. Same one but with GS below the "12". Amazing watch and super accurate.
@petefinn6000
@petefinn6000 4 жыл бұрын
Steve J Louis what is the retail cost of the Seiko do you know?
@stevejlouis5446
@stevejlouis5446 4 жыл бұрын
@@petefinn6000 I managed to buy it last December for roughly 4100USD. Got a good discount. Retail was just under 6k.
@mistahgook
@mistahgook 4 жыл бұрын
@@stevejlouis5446 That's an amazing price. Where did you buy it from?
@FourIntoOne
@FourIntoOne 4 жыл бұрын
I would take a Grand Seiko over any Rolex, any day (and I am speaking as an owner of both) .Exquisite finishing, much much rarer, and none of the baggage that Rolex brings to the party.
@PsyMongazoid
@PsyMongazoid 4 жыл бұрын
If you prefer the Batman, you'll have a long wait if you want to pay RRP, long enough to make that trip to Boots to buy a tube of KY in readiness.
@rayboyman
@rayboyman 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe Rolex will increase supply to ADs for declining demand
@calvin10
@calvin10 4 жыл бұрын
Impress others with Rolex, impress yourself with GS.
@larjkok1184
@larjkok1184 4 жыл бұрын
Just stop.
@ardimarcs7698
@ardimarcs7698 4 жыл бұрын
A. B. Rolex makes a great watch, but I would consider them overrated. I find that a large amount of people that buy a Rolex, do so, to show other people they can afford one. Grand Seiko, for example, will give you an equal to and arguably better crafted watch for a fraction of the price of a Rolex in the same caliber.
@MontenegroG80
@MontenegroG80 4 жыл бұрын
A. B. Believe me they write that just to get some likes. I’m the owner of 3 Rolex watches. Do you think I would replace them for GS, or Omega? No way, never. I’m speaking from this position when I do have my watches, but let’s say guy doesn’t have any watch, he have money to spend. Who the hell would go for GS instead of Batman GMT? Common sense. 🤣 I agree with you totaly mate.
@LuisFranciscoAguilar
@LuisFranciscoAguilar 4 жыл бұрын
Classic chessy excuse. I remember the first time i tried a GS (The so called snowflake) i was disappointed. Ugly case design, ugly bracelet, flat dial design. Nothing to like.
@iTzZM7TRF
@iTzZM7TRF 4 жыл бұрын
I just got a BLNR jubilee for my graduation and I can't be more happy with a watch. My next watch would be an SBGK005, It's just magnificent.
@MrPINKFL0YD
@MrPINKFL0YD 4 жыл бұрын
Spoilt brat
@iTzZM7TRF
@iTzZM7TRF 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrPINKFL0YD just because you never had good stuff and probably have daddy issues doesn't mean people are brats lmao
@alijanismayilov
@alijanismayilov 4 жыл бұрын
No need for the sound effects. Your voice is the best sound that your videos need. Yet another awesome video. Thanks
@brucechua8889
@brucechua8889 3 жыл бұрын
If you want to tell your success story, show a rolex. If you want to talk watches, show a grand seiko.
@dandessner1947
@dandessner1947 4 жыл бұрын
Let’s not forget that the Spring drive is significantly more accurate than the Rolex too. Accurately telling the time is the basic idea behind a watch, isn’t it?
@bradle4162
@bradle4162 4 жыл бұрын
Though I'm into GMTs myself. I can't help but find myself drawn to just how iconic the Rolex is. Not too long ago I held a GS and although I disliked the spring drive movement I can say that the quality was amazing.
@rodsilva80
@rodsilva80 Жыл бұрын
why do you dislike the sprint drive?
@jonathanknox8222
@jonathanknox8222 3 жыл бұрын
The video could have been summed up perfectly by the last sentence "There's more to being a human than being logic". I keep marveling at this man's way with words.
@ganeshraj769
@ganeshraj769 4 жыл бұрын
The level of detail on each watch is pretty clear in the macro shots. Seiko has better attention to detail. The hands, the hour markers everything is cut to perfection. In comparison Rolex's markers look like they're just tacked on
@patrickdehaan3670
@patrickdehaan3670 4 жыл бұрын
ganesh raj kyatham: By comparison, YES that's right.
@ZeroSOFInfinity
@ZeroSOFInfinity 4 жыл бұрын
That power reserve indication on the GS looks so out of place..... either remove it totally, or place at the 9'oclock area.....
@564aba
@564aba 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing like Rolex, but instead GMT i prefer the EXPLORER II. Great Video, thanks a lot.
@eldiabolico3750
@eldiabolico3750 4 жыл бұрын
That’s what I thought when I bought my Explorer II Polar White but... when I got the Batgirl I realized that they are extremely different although I like them both. If I had to choose only one, I would probably stay with the GMT Master II.
@yetidh9
@yetidh9 4 жыл бұрын
​@@eldiabolico3750 I traded my Exp II Polar against a GMT Pepsi. I don't regret it but it would have been nice to have kept it. I liked the Explorer but it was a bit too big and the bracelet taper looked awkward, although it sat flatter to my wrist than the GMT does. In white it really stood out. I received a lot of comments on that watch whereas the Pepsi seems to go unnoticed, strangely enough.
@Alan-JackofAllTrades
@Alan-JackofAllTrades Жыл бұрын
Love the crispiness of the GS and spring drive movement. Very very elegant.
@anshumanmajumdar7361
@anshumanmajumdar7361 3 жыл бұрын
Can somebody please tell me the artist and title of the background music? I need to know that to treat my anxiety of not knowing what it is!
@nojburns
@nojburns 4 жыл бұрын
The engineering of the GS cannot be understated. It's a marvel in that regard. But it's sterile. Give me the soul of the Rolex every day of the week.
@ivanlagrossemoule
@ivanlagrossemoule 4 жыл бұрын
@ww ww Mechanical watches are pieces of luxury not tools.
@dingmingzou9866
@dingmingzou9866 4 жыл бұрын
GMT Master II > Any Other GMT Watches.
@eahmhelmoa
@eahmhelmoa 4 жыл бұрын
This video would have been great if it compared the BLNR to the peacock or the SBGJ235.
@itsmigz2043
@itsmigz2043 4 ай бұрын
What catches me on rolex is the clearer numericals on the bezel, larger more prominent bezel size and the dimensional cuts outside the bezel. It all gives a great framing to the dial that looks like deeper. Like a grand entrance the dial specially from s distance.
@kostasp1137
@kostasp1137 4 жыл бұрын
I think we are comparing apples and oranges here. Two different brands with different philosophy. One is hybrid movement and other fully mechanical.
@experimenteight4550
@experimenteight4550 4 жыл бұрын
2:00 - GoT flashbacks
@TheSupertecnology
@TheSupertecnology 4 жыл бұрын
How in watches heaven do you make lume glow all of a sudden? I can't tell if it is clever editing or there's more to it and it's killing me cause it looks SO NICE
@simil-kung5610
@simil-kung5610 4 жыл бұрын
Dear Watchfinder guy, I'm just getting into watches and really love your well-made videos. Really, you're doing a great job! I'd love to see a Video about the Ulysse Nardin Tellurium. My father inherited one from my late grandfather many years ago and I'd love to learn something about that watch as I'm very interested in astronomy as well. And again, keep up the great work!
@myownopinion6676
@myownopinion6676 4 жыл бұрын
Seiko is like it's designed by genius kid. No matter how genius, he's still a kid.
@abiromu
@abiromu 4 жыл бұрын
If you mean to say that a kid doesn't know how to cheat people by hyping their products up and overcharging for it, then yeah Seiko is made by kids.
@LuisFranciscoAguilar
@LuisFranciscoAguilar 4 жыл бұрын
Abir Chaudhuri Wondering why everyone talks about Rolex except the owners.
@Statutum
@Statutum 4 жыл бұрын
@@LuisFranciscoAguilar Exactly. Why do so many young children talk about Kim Kardashian and Kanye, but adults do not. Grand Seiko is not about the hype, or the instagram, they are about being the best. I'm interested in the development of their Credor brand, which is their foray into the luxury timepiece market, a la Rolex and friends.
@KingofThrift
@KingofThrift 4 жыл бұрын
Another awesome vid 👏 Just what the Doctor ordered! Batman for me but That GS is 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@opbk88
@opbk88 4 жыл бұрын
Another great review, though I had to go back over the tyre screeching @ 6:39 a couple of times to make sure I wasn't hearing a rogue pop-up advert!
@mikepaul2372
@mikepaul2372 3 жыл бұрын
If you want to earn your money in a flip, easily Rolex. If you compared the actual construction etc. pretty close and maybe even the GS!
@noelmcdonagh3905
@noelmcdonagh3905 4 жыл бұрын
GS all the way and I will never regret it.
@slick4401
@slick4401 4 жыл бұрын
Have you seen the prices of Rolex lately? They are freaking insane.
@jeremeymiller3406
@jeremeymiller3406 3 жыл бұрын
They still haven’t gotten any better either. As soon as seiko released spring drive they surpassed anything Rolex offers the finish of the grand Seiko is much better too your paying for the brand grand seiko offers a better watch in every way on paper for a fraction of the price and any metal you can think of including titanium Rolex doesn’t offer that besides Tudor to the best of my knowledge
@ekimandersom4478
@ekimandersom4478 3 жыл бұрын
Look at the prices TODAY !
@ekimandersom4478
@ekimandersom4478 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeremeymiller3406 Sooo many brands are better than Rolex.
@jim5118
@jim5118 2 жыл бұрын
One important thing to remember is whether or not you can get a Spring Drive serviced without having to send it back to Japan.
@leemacdonald6533
@leemacdonald6533 3 жыл бұрын
So the question is: Do you buy a GMT master or a Grand Seiko and black bay with a navitimer?
@Phessington
@Phessington 4 жыл бұрын
Grand seiko for me. Never been a Rolex fan.
@sold4ChristJ
@sold4ChristJ 4 жыл бұрын
The Rolex GMT has been an icon for so long. Rolex GMT Master-II or the Rolex pepsi, apart from being one of the best selling Rolex is also a Bond watch. I would go for the Rolex anyday Grand Seiko is great but I would rather prefer the snowflake over this one...
@dfgvegas
@dfgvegas 4 жыл бұрын
Even with the higher price I'd take the Rolex over the Seiko any day! Thanks for another good one Watchfinder.
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