7 Wonders Duel - Game Play 3

[@this2ndlife]

I cannot thank you guys enough for this play through - as a 7 wonders newbie, but requiring a 2 player version, I would have been lost with just the rulebook!

[@WatchItPlayed]

Very glad to assist! Hope you have a great time playing :)

[@TheAngeletti]

You two are great! my wife and I are trying to learn this board game and watching the two of you battle it out has definitely taught us the ropes keep it up guys!

[@WatchItPlayed]

So good to know this helped - have fun playing!

[@archer111000]

Watching Pep and Rodney in the outtakes, sometimes I think to myself, "this is what the show will look like when Luke grows up." You guys are adorable

[@bazzkrycek211]

Amazing play through guys, thought Pep was gonna win that one, so great to see Rodney fighting back :) You two should definitely do more duo vides -and seeing more of Pep is definitely not a bad thing ;)

[@djAnakin]

Learned to play the original 7 Wonders from your walkthrough, and I just got Duel, so I had to come back. Another great playthrough series. THanks!

[@WatchItPlayed]

Nice to have you back :)

[@princeanon]

Nice tutorial. Thanks a lot, Rodney and Pep. This shows how the game really plays. I especially like the friendly atmosphere you put in all games. Thanks.

[@WatchItPlayed]

+Prince Anon So glad you enjoyed the video - thank you!

[@vrmn766]

That was an amazing game play! I initially thought Pep was gonna win it with the science, I was betting for him, but Rodney was really competitive! Very detailed and informative play through along with your tutorial video.

[@WatchItPlayed]

Thanks so much - really glad you enjoyed this play through :)

[@azupancic]

Nice job, gentlemen, thanks for getting back to letting us watch it played.

[@LarrySchneider]

On several occasions, Pep paid for brick when he could have obtained 1 brick from the Great Lighthouse. I think he completely forgot that that wonder provided that benefit to him.

[@WatchItPlayed]

+Larry Schneider I'd be interested to get a time stamp where you saw this happen. Typically, when we make a rules mistake of that level, we get several comments. Yours was the first I've seen related to that.

[@LarrySchneider]

+Watch It Played I'll try to watch it again tomorrow and see if I can find some of those slip ups.

[@LarrySchneider]

+Watch It Played Actually, I ended up staying up way too late and just finished watching it, Rodney. Here are my corrections (all from this 3rd video): 2:56 Pep is entitled to take 7 Gold for discarding the Siege Workshop, not 6. But he discovers this mistake later in the video. 3:36 Pep pays 4 for the Arsenal when he should have only paid 2. 5:43 Pep pays 3 for the Circus when he should have only paid 1. 7:14 Pep pays 2 for the Tactician’s Guild when he should have only paid 1. 8:32 Pep pays 2 for the Armory when he should have only paid 1. 9:28 Pep pays 2 for the Obelisk when he should have only paid 1. 10:13 Pep pays 2 for the Gardens when he should have gotten for free. So in the end, Pep overpaid by 9 coins, all due to the fact that he consistently forgot about the benefit from his Great Lighthouse. I don't think it would have changed the outcome of the game, but it's worth noting in the video.

[@WatchItPlayed]

+Larry Schneider Wow! You're right Larry. He did forget (and so did I). And more people would have likely seen it, if we could have gotten the far side of his wonders into the shot.

[@LarrySchneider]

+Watch It Played Usually when I play with the Great Lighthouse or the one other wonder that provides resources, I ensure that those two wonders are positioned adjacent to my brown and gray decks so that all the resource icons abut one another and make it easier to see what you have.

[@daletomlinson1185]

I couldn't play a game like this with Rodney. He's just too nice, I wouldn't want to screw him over haha

[@WatchItPlayed]

I've found your weakness - sympathy!

[@edmundengland]

Four great videos that really made me understand the game in a very good way.

[@WatchItPlayed]

That's really great feedback - glad you found it helpful!

[@SecretJetStream]

Pep should be your first hire, Rodney. Watching 7 Wonders Duel and Gold West, I haven't been this excited about WiP since back when you played through LotR TCG. So enjoyable to watch with the two of you playing.

[@WatchItPlayed]

+SecretJetStream Not quite a hiring levels yet, but as the show is growing, I've certainly enjoyed Pep's assistance and glad you have too!

[@supermariosunshin131]

I did not expect Rodney to win this game in the end, that was quite a shock, I really thought Pep was going to win for sure given that every move he made throughout the game was beneficial for him and his strength in science, military and commerce at the end. I also thought it was hilarious that the narrative for Pep's civilization is that it flourished in science with the scientists going berserk and joining the military, which led to its utter downfall. Overall, great gameplay series as usual, it was extremely entertaining with funny outtakes. I bet Pep was somewhat disappointed at the end result.

[@WatchItPlayed]

+TheGamingHobbyist Ah, he's a good sport and will be sure to cream me in whatever game we play next, on or off camera. Glad you enjoyed the series :)

[@dadanum8443]

I have watched a few 7W videos to try and work it out. After most, I have been underwhelmed. This is the first one that left me feeling I might buy a 7W game. Plus, it was a fun, entertaining vid. Well done

[@WatchItPlayed]

Hey, glad you enjoyed it!

[@MrMatthewJ]

Glad you used a portion of my suggestion! Ironically, you pronounced my last name properly in the outtakes, but not in the actual video. No worries, a lot of people pronounce it grave-lyn instead of grav-e-lyn. Great video!

[@auroradanielle6778]

This series was so helpful! Thank you both!

[@WatchItPlayed]

So nice to know you enjoyed - thanks for the kind words!

[@Loutjee92]

After watching the first video about this game, when Rodney was explaining how everything works, I went really excited about the game! After watching all the game play, I now have another game on my to buy list. Thanks! It was fun to watch you guys play 7 Wonders Duel! 😃

[@WatchItPlayed]

So glad you enjoyed Milou!

[@gabrielaenriquezderiverade2489]

My husband and I enjoyed "playing with you"!!! We liked the way you explained the reasons why do or do not taking a card. You were great! (well, sometimes you spoke a little bit too fast but we understand that you get emotional while playing, he! Once again, congratulations for the great way you explained everything!!! (As you may imagine, we just got the Duel Game)

[@macurvello]

The bloopers are nice! Keep them coming! About the game: It probably is a better variation of 7 Wonders for 2 players (I've never played the 2 player variation of the original game, but it feels like it's very awkward). But I'll stick to the original and gather more people to play =) The video is superb as always. You are definitely my favorite board game channel BY FAR.

[@WatchItPlayed]

+Marco Curvello Hey Marco, very kind of you to say and so glad ytou've enjoyed our videos! Thank you :)

[@dragonpynk]

LOL... the outtakes are so funny... Sister Christian is by Night Ranger... Loved the conclusion. I can't wait to get this game and have it at work to play at lunch time. Thanks Guys! =o)

[@WatchItPlayed]

+dragonpynk A pleasure to share with you!

[@boardpep9711]

+dragonpynk Oh, THAT'S what I was thinking. Rodney, you'd know the song. "Motorin', what's your price for flight? In finding Mr. Right!"

[@christianmazzaretto]

ahaha very funny the way you've said my name :). I do not get angry for so little so don't worry :). Anyway I thank you for including me in your video. Until next time good luck from an Italian fan :). Congratulation for defeating Pep by the way.

[@christianmazzaretto]

+Christian Mazzaretto anyway Pep i do not have a sister xD ahahah xD

[@boardpep9711]

+Christian Mazzaretto Oh well, maybe the next Christian! :) I'm curious how close was your name once we actually got it?

[@christianmazzaretto]

+Pep MacDonald, The name was all right, it was the last name that make me and my friends laugh xD (I showed the video to my friends xD). I think it was so funny to us because in Italian we pronounce the double letter more strongly...we put more emphasis when we pronounce the double letters (I do not know if I explained well). Also the way Rodney pronounced the z was funny for us because is very different to how we pronounce it. So all this factors were very funny ahahah xD

[@ZULND3R]

Great playthrough and very helpful. The instructions included in the game are a bit ambiguous at times and this made it much more clear.

[@WatchItPlayed]

+Shaun Moizuk Really nice to know you found it helpful Shaun.

[@zottleporcupine8722]

You both made it really easy to understand - thanks !

[@WatchItPlayed]

You're very welcome!

[@edwardwendt2120]

Entertaining playthrough, looking forward to buying this.

[@tomerengel]

Pure gold 🥇. Thanks for doing this guys!

[@WatchItPlayed]

Glad you enjoyed Tomer!

[@xTheTruth72x]

can't put my finger on it, but the camera for these videos was the best I've seen on your channel. maybe being a game with a smaller footprint helped, but it was very easy to watch. good job.

[@WatchItPlayed]

+xTheTruth72x The smaller footprint helps :) Glad you liked it.

[@basilhamed3039]

Amazing play through guys thanks a lot !

[@WatchItPlayed]

So glad you enjoyed it Basil :)

[@GretSeat]

This really shows that slow and steady will win the race

[@TheCart54321]

Once again another win for watch it played

[@PMMagro]

+carter grantham He has to play his kids or friends to let him win...

[@KristijanStosic]

Can you explain the yellow card that has a number and coin in its benefits that was taken at 2:10 , i didnt understand how pep got coins and all the stuff

[@WatchItPlayed]

I do my best to answer all rules questions on the games I cover, but I avoid individual card effects, as that's a level of detail beyond what I can manage across all the videos I do. That said, remember, this isn't the tutorial video. You'll find that here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iam0nICIitt2gJo - it's been awhile since I shot it, but it might have the answer you are looking for, and if not I'd suggest checking the rules forum for the game on BoardGameGeek or the publishers website. I hope you can find your answer there - have fun playing!

[@keh225]

my husband and I were getting so frustrated trying to figure out this game your video was so helpful!! thank you!!!

[@WatchItPlayed]

I'm so glad to hear this was helpful - have a great time playing!

[@atmunn1]

Guys, defend your deserts, Pep's going to buy them all!

[@haaaz8697]

At 11:16 shouldn't that guild card give 4 points to pep becuase he had the most brown cards?

[@WatchItPlayed]

No, the points go to the person who build the guild, but the points are based on the player (whichever player it is) that has the most of the related item. Hope that helps!

[@WatchItPlayed]

@@mariosoueidy4293 I do my best to answer all rules questions on the games I cover, but I avoid individual card effects, as that's a level of detail beyond what I can manage across all the videos I do. I'd suggest checking the rules forum for the game on BoardGameGeek or the publishers website. I hope you can find your answer there - have fun playing!

[@sydelleestibeiro4332]

The rulebook says "If you gather 6 different scientific symbols, immediately win" But at 4:54 Pep has one pair and 3 single scientific symbols. So ideally he should be getting 2 more different symbols to win right? Or is the pair counted as 2 symbols?

[@WatchItPlayed]

Make sure you go back and check that time stamp, you'll see that he has a 5th unique science symbol (it's located on the token that is on the stack of science cards).

[@kevinlee8932]

at 10:50 why does he not add up 4 and 6 at the bottom of 2 yellow cards?? He just added first three "3s" on top.

[@WatchItPlayed]

The threes are the symbols for victory points, the other cards show resources and coins. You only calculate victory points at this time.

[@MWSkinner-s4j]

Thanks for the play through. The game was getting a little stale, because the person I usually play against and myself weren't able to buy much in the 3rd age. It turns out, we were playing two rules incorrectly. Now that we know the rules better, I'm sure we'll have renewed fun in the game.

[@WatchItPlayed]

I hope you have a great time the next time you break it out!

[@whatlez]

Damn did not think Rodney would win that in episodes 1 and 2.

[@WatchItPlayed]

Quite the comeback!

[@whatlez]

Just played my first game after this and was really fun! Thanks for the video.

[@hermespadilla]

Hi Rodney! Thanks for the video! I was "wondering"... You always play the games in your videos without sleeves, but I recall hearing you say that you like to keep your games as pristine as possible and that you sleeve your games. Do you sleeved this one after the video? It's a game that have some shuffle action. And if you do, how do you store it in the box? Sadly, the cool insert that comes in the box doesn't accommodate sleeved cards.

[@WatchItPlayed]

+Hermes Padilla I'm less concerned with sleeves these days :) I'm learning to let go.

[@disafear3674]

Love the video!

[@WatchItPlayed]

Thank you!

[@neilwalker4277]

Thanks, Ive just got this game and needed help and your videos were splendid as usual 😀 But a question, why does the channel need 250 producers 😯

[@WatchItPlayed]

I am able to work on the series full time because each year we have a fundraiser. If you donate at a particular level you become a Producer and get your name in the credits for the kind support.

[@zeradox1901]

4:17 Shouldnt the card cost 2 gold? You produce Stone, thats ok. You dont have Brick in production, but it is reduced to 1 Gold per trade, but what is with the Wood? :) Shouldnt the Wood cost you one more gold (because no production, but price reduction too), so 2 Gold in total? Just wondering how all these years, nobody mentioned this in the comments, so could somebody correct me if im wrong and tell me why im wrong? :)

[@WatchItPlayed]

My caravansary gives me one of the shown items for free.

[@zeradox1901]

@@WatchItPlayed Well, a truly amazing channel, getting responses from the Uploader on a 6 year old video. Thank you very much and keep up the amazing work of teaching people to play games around the world. Greetings from Europe :)

[@WatchItPlayed]

@@zeradox1901 Greetings back from Canada :)

[@kaiyinlaw9493]

Awesome video❤

[@WatchItPlayed]

Thanks so much!

[@crackawhat1]

Oh god, the comments already teases Rodney so much for how he says card, now costed is thrown onto that. By the way, Chrome didn't flag costed in spellcheck, so it must be a real word.

[@brokenmiind]

What happened if you dont have money to pay when your opponent atack you? Do you need to pay it later or some?

[@WatchItPlayed]

Nope, you can ignore it, if you have no money.

[@Monarchyman1]

In his science pile there are two symbols that are the same, I thought it was six different symbols to win. Am I wrong? And by the way, your video on the LOTR Lcg directly influenced my getting the game. Keep up the good work. I now go to you if I am curious about a game's mechanics.

[@WatchItPlayed]

+Monarchyman1 So glad you are finding the videos helpful! Thanks for checking them out :) You are right you need 6 different science symbols in order to immediately win the game - did we say something different in the video that is causing you to ask about this?

[@pliploffor]

Hi! I have a question about the calculation. How do you calculate the swords (red background, with two crossed swords? And also what does the red and green symbol (at the bottom of the calculation paper) means?

[@WatchItPlayed]

Hey Christoffer - at the end of the game, you get victory points based on where the war token ended up (if it is in your opponents half of the war track. You'll see this explained in our instructional video. I'm not exactly sure what those sections of the score sheet are for. I thought perhaps you checked them off if a player had a Military or Science victory - just as a way of keeping track of games you played.

[@BebeMccammond]

What did the Law token do for Pep? I did get that part

[@WatchItPlayed]

Been awhile since we shot this, but here is the purpose of the Law Token: "The Law symbol is a symbol that does nothing, EXCEPT counts toward the 6 you need to get a scientific victory."

[@rodneyhrvatin9621]

Hi guys, I have a question. What card do you use to out under your wonder when you build it? From what I gather, you grab a card that you would discard rather than one that goes towards building the wonder?

[@WatchItPlayed]

Right, you choose a card from the display as normal, but instead of paying it's cost, you pay the Wonders cost and then slip that card face down underneath the wonder as an indicator that the Wonder has been constructed.

[@FrankMinogue]

If you pick up an accessible age card and it has resources on it, can you use those resources in the building of your Wonder? Or do you have to have the cost(ed) of the Wonder available in the cards you already have?

[@WatchItPlayed]

You would not be able to use the card you took for it's resources, in that case.

[@FrankMinogue]

Okay, thank you so much. Your videos are AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@soukouluis95]

Man I want this game so bad @.@ ... And also great video guys !!!

[@WatchItPlayed]

Glad you liked it Luis!

[@matkolendler3235]

Would it be possible to build a wonder with a guild card assuming that all the 7 wonders haven t been built up to that point??, and can you sell guild card for gold/money? :)

[@WatchItPlayed]

I'm not quite following your questions, sorry!

[@matkolendler3235]

When you draw a card from the table, you can either build that card/building, you can put it under the wonder and build that wonder, or you can sell that card for money, my question is, can you sell a guild card (3 purple ones in the third age ) for money?? And another question, can you put the guild card under a wonder to build it just like other age cards?

[@WatchItPlayed]

Understood - yes a Guild card can be used just like any other card.

[@nicogamesnow]

Interesting. While playing, did you feel like you could afford any resources necessary? It seems like between the commerce and guild cards, you had so much money you didn't even NEED half of the resources you had. This seems very different from standard 7 Wonders where you could easily back yourself into a corner if you didn't get enough resources.

[@WatchItPlayed]

+niconc2 I think every time you play it's going to be different, based on the cards drawn, strategies chosen, etc.

[@boardpep9711]

+niconc2 Even though I had a lot of money most times, the few times when I didn't were fairly critical, and I ended up having to take money when I could have gone for points. Definitely back and forth, at least in this game.

[@Monarchyman1]

You said that he needed one more science symbol to win, but as he had two that were the same, he should have needed two to win the game. Am I correct, or am I misunderstanding something?

[@WatchItPlayed]

+Monarchyman1 Look at the layout at 10:54. Notice that Pep, in addition to the science buildings, also has a Science symbol on that large round token - which also counts as a science symbol. So he had 5 unique symbols. Hope that helps.

[@brutus60s2]

love it!

[@pierluigidipietro8097]

Really good, and you have cleared a couple of doubts I had. As a sidenote, trying to win by science supremacy is the hardest way, nice try :D

[@WatchItPlayed]

Glad to help!

[@KhoanhkhacthuviVN]

2:12 why he can get 5 coins in 3 victory points???

[@WatchItPlayed]

The symbol on the Lighthouse in the top left represents gaining 1 coin for each yellow card he has, and includes itself. Plus it shows 3 victory points on it.

[@KhoanhkhacthuviVN]

thx 😁

[@BarryFrancoeur]

When Pep takes the lighthouse near the beginning of the third age, shouldn't he only collect 4 coins? You can't include the lighthouse when you add up the yellow cards, can you? That doesn't seem right.

[@WatchItPlayed]

Hey Barry, I shot this long enough ago that I'd need a time stamp to look up the section you are referring to.

[@BarryFrancoeur]

@@WatchItPlayed Sorry about that! kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIqTfoeemquph8k

[@constantin-catalindiaconu207]

4:43 - Cost you only 2? Doesn't the enemy produce glass so you need to pay at least 2+1 (he owns 1 glass) for 1 glass? so that in total should be 3+3-1-1 ( -1 for bonus gold) ?

[@WatchItPlayed]

Hey, you'll find this covered in the tutorial video we created for the game, here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iam0nICIitt2gJo Pep has a market card that reduces the future cost of all glass he purchases to 1 (it doesn't matter how much glass I now have).

[@kevinlee8932]

So having 4 pairs of science immediately wins the game? Also, does "red" cards provide any points? Thank you

[@WatchItPlayed]

Hey Kevin, you'll find these answers in our tutorial video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iam0nICIitt2gJo - thanks for checking out the game play!

[@FunkyFoxGaming]

Shouldn't Pep be paying 2g for the stone, as you have a stone resource?

[@boardpep9711]

+FunkyFox40 Just to clarify, when you have a building that reduces the cost of trade to 1g, it makes it a flat 1g, even if you opponent has stone of their own. So those cost reduction buildings can have a lot of power in the mid-late game.

[@WatchItPlayed]

Thanks to Pep for the clarification!

[@Monarchyman1]

Ah, my bad. I didn't notice that. Thanks.

[@thejonespackchannel]

Can you explain why the Arena card gives you 8 gold?

[@WatchItPlayed]

Hey Barbara, happy to help - could you give me the time stamp for when this occurred and I'll look it up for you?

[@handman613]

4:30. I had same ?

[@theatreofbeasts]

Nice video, thank you! (In German if you say "it costs..." you say "es kostet..." - here you go, where are your roots? :D)

[@WatchItPlayed]

+Theatre of Beasts Eastern Canada :)

[@EclecticCamel]

Pep got robbed.

[@WatchItPlayed]

Did he though?!

[@freemanedwards5663]

Whoa !!!

[@guilhermel.decicco8]

Rodney you won finally!!! kkkkkkkkkkkkk kkkkkkk

[@WatchItPlayed]

Whew!

[@stvaf]

Great great videos from Watch It Played! Thanks for giving me some hints for the rules that I haven't notice after my 2nd play of 7 Wonders Duel. I thought the scientific symbols are needed 6 pairs to win scientific supremacy, before I watch this video.. haha

[@WatchItPlayed]

Easy to miss things like that - glad the video helped :)

[@xanadu1215]

SSSSSSOOOOOO Fun

[@WatchItPlayed]

Glad you enjoyed Steph!