Watchmaker Breaks Down Swiss vs Japanese Made Watches | WIRED

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@thelexico5972
@thelexico5972 6 жыл бұрын
When I was in Austria I found a whole TV channel dedicated to a guy making watches, saying nothing and with no music and 8 camera angles. It was really nice to watch in the evening.
@elshizz
@elshizz 6 жыл бұрын
I would subscribe SO FAST to that channel!
@goku445
@goku445 6 жыл бұрын
Austrians are weirdos confirmed.
@Autechltd
@Autechltd 6 жыл бұрын
@@goku445 If they don't release that pent up autism, bad things happen.
@PLBW81
@PLBW81 5 жыл бұрын
what was the name of the channel?
@armanke13
@armanke13 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many unit can they make a week or a month, 🤔
@TheRockerX
@TheRockerX 6 жыл бұрын
I felt a very weird combination of fascination and boredom while watching this
@MrMinusguy
@MrMinusguy 6 жыл бұрын
this is on point
@Triggerboy78
@Triggerboy78 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting enough to watch it, but boring enough to jump forward once in a while to finally see a result :)
@youmongrel
@youmongrel 6 жыл бұрын
Is that the definition of "contentment?"
@RNCHFND
@RNCHFND 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking. I made until 7 minutes and thought to myself "this guy is legit and that's a cool craft but I should watch something else"
@Tayl0NP
@Tayl0NP 6 жыл бұрын
I for one, was whelmed
@azmanntoz
@azmanntoz 5 жыл бұрын
What I like about brands such as seiko and orient is that you can purchase a well made, budget watch with its own brand movement. With Swiss watches you tend to have to jump many price brackets to get the same claim. Even some of the so called luxury brands just run decorated ETA movements.
@kvell24
@kvell24 5 жыл бұрын
In house movements are great and all, but the ETA 7750 is one of the most reliable and accurate chronograph movements ever created. ETA movement isn't a necessarily bad thing in a luxury watch, they're very high quality. That said, also look at nomos, they offer in-house German movements at super affordable prices.
@darthgiggity7948
@darthgiggity7948 Жыл бұрын
​@@kvell24 it isn't though. And using ETA too much is a sign of laziness. Aren't they capable of innovation? Lol
@itovenaar6920
@itovenaar6920 Жыл бұрын
@@kvell24 nomos is super affordable? Since when.
@cc8530
@cc8530 Жыл бұрын
@@darthgiggity7948 I know what you mean, I liken it to car/engine manufacture. The EV movement is the quartz crisis for cars coming and I feel it will revert back to ICE due to battery issues down the line.
@Carbonpolter
@Carbonpolter Жыл бұрын
I mean, ETA really mastered the production of great movements. Why should you use different movements if they are working great? Never change a wining team. 😅
@jong9992
@jong9992 5 жыл бұрын
Comparing a $50 Miyota movement with a $250 eta
@tresconik
@tresconik 3 жыл бұрын
@R. Schowiada71 possibly.. higher beat rate means it can be more easily regulated, hacking means time can be set more exactly, and the miyota will be dumped and replaced in a service while the eta may have small parts replaced but you will largely have the same movement, if that makes any difference to you.
@BernardTheMandeville
@BernardTheMandeville 6 жыл бұрын
Comparing a ~$250,- ETA movement to a ~$75,- Miyota seems unfair when you never mention the price difference of the movements themselves.
@alfistibrasiliani
@alfistibrasiliani 6 жыл бұрын
ok, can you name a japanese movement in the same price range? give us an exemple
@urieelSEptim
@urieelSEptim 6 жыл бұрын
alfistibrasiliani what about the miyota 9015? its considered better than the eta, still cheaper.
@gmansplit
@gmansplit 6 жыл бұрын
@@alfistibrasiliani I can name Japanese movements in a much higher price range. Anything Grand Seiko makes. The Miyota 9015 would also be more comparable to the ETA 2824-2, Seiko's 6R15, 8L35 etc.
@zakofrx
@zakofrx 5 жыл бұрын
I have seen that Miyota for a lot cheaper than $75.
@spare97
@spare97 5 жыл бұрын
@@gmansplit He asked in the same price range. A Grand Seiko movement is more in the same price range as an Omega in-house movement. The Seiko Spring Drive movement is over $1000 for example.
@omegagavin
@omegagavin 6 жыл бұрын
Grand Seiko vs Rolex comparison would be interesting.
@MonkeyChocolate
@MonkeyChocolate 6 жыл бұрын
I actually wear my SARB035 (6R15D) more than GMT Master. Because it just looks simpler and there's a love on its white dial.
@safinasir6683
@safinasir6683 6 жыл бұрын
yeahh seiko gang
@kristian1300
@kristian1300 6 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/qKikkJp3fciggtU There you go
@Merthalophor
@Merthalophor 6 жыл бұрын
@@MonkeyChocolate the only reason you said that was to tell us that you own such a watch
@iamtoast3397
@iamtoast3397 6 жыл бұрын
@@Merthalophor Surely not, he must have thought this information would enrich our lives 😂
@awatson22
@awatson22 6 жыл бұрын
‘Hmm I understand how it all works now’ - No-one
@jimbert50
@jimbert50 6 жыл бұрын
@Spiritpoweredinternet I still don't understand. lol Well, except in very general terms.
@manwhoneversleeps
@manwhoneversleeps 6 жыл бұрын
Spiritpoweredinternet "watch"
@ArchesBro
@ArchesBro 6 жыл бұрын
Basically, there is a spring that is wound that will slowly unwind to power the hands on the clock. It unwinds slowly because it is attached to a spinning thingy that can only spin so fast because of air resistance. That is connected to the gears that will spin the 3 hands, those 3 hands have different gear ratios so that they spin at their particular speeds. The real magic is putting all these little things in there stacked on top of each other. The mechanism to wind up the watch is essentially a gear inside of a gear, so that when you rewind it, you dont change the position of the outer gear. It's very simple if you look at an animation of the couple things happening. Extremely tedious to manufacture. I cant imagine what all it takes to make them. Probably have a "how its made" episode out there.
@yodamunkey
@yodamunkey 6 жыл бұрын
Haha I just woke everyone up, I think. Never laughed that loud at a comment - caught me off guard!
@ArchesBro
@ArchesBro 6 жыл бұрын
@CYZ Aero I actually found a good video explaining it. The escapement isn't actually like I described. Apparently high end watches use a mechanical escapement, not an air resistance one. I'm just a dumb guy on the internet who shouldn't be trusted I guess. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fWK7c5VtoK99jck
@HH60gPaveHawk
@HH60gPaveHawk 6 жыл бұрын
Odd they didn't compare more... equitable movements. a Miyota 9015 would be a much better comparison to the 2824 in both price and quality
@EthnHDmlle
@EthnHDmlle 5 жыл бұрын
Japanese watches are based after European designs. It wouldn't make sense to compare the two.
@Speed_7545
@Speed_7545 5 жыл бұрын
How about the 6R15
@david111davies
@david111davies 5 жыл бұрын
Yes it does, they are different enough and many of the Swiss designs are old as the hills and some Japan ones are recent past.
@alerojas2952
@alerojas2952 4 жыл бұрын
You yankee piece of sh¡t
@EthnHDmlle
@EthnHDmlle 4 жыл бұрын
Michal Nazareth you’re right. I should have specified mechanical watch.
@MaxxSend
@MaxxSend 5 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine if your cat jumped on the table and knocked that entire parts tray to the floor.
@yamawaw9572
@yamawaw9572 5 жыл бұрын
i imagine you jump, will be flying side kick landed in second :P
@biglezmate3830
@biglezmate3830 5 жыл бұрын
@@abyss3741 I'd be pouring gravy on that pussycat.
@jessecoulter3476
@jessecoulter3476 5 жыл бұрын
What cat??
@impact0r
@impact0r 4 жыл бұрын
Cat would subsequently be jumped out of the window on the top floor.
@ALYOUTUBERZ
@ALYOUTUBERZ 4 жыл бұрын
Literally my first thought lol
@halicusnguyen8864
@halicusnguyen8864 4 жыл бұрын
I can imagine accidentally inhaling one of those parts.
@toyotaprius79
@toyotaprius79 6 жыл бұрын
WIRED, you need James May to do this.
@haydenfleetwood9261
@haydenfleetwood9261 6 жыл бұрын
toyotaprius79 he’s it a watchmaker
@robinrai4973
@robinrai4973 6 жыл бұрын
"Oh bollocks"
@opusfluke2354
@opusfluke2354 6 жыл бұрын
Half the video would be him explaining the difference between Philips Headed and Japanese Industrial Standard screws.
@AboveSomething
@AboveSomething 6 жыл бұрын
after organizing them by size @@opusfluke2354
@Drive-n-Vibe
@Drive-n-Vibe 6 жыл бұрын
he does seem to collect watches but he'd be useless at this
@FleshWolf
@FleshWolf 6 жыл бұрын
This is really cool, but... finger condoms
@MRLONG758
@MRLONG758 6 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly
@AndreaVerdiCR
@AndreaVerdiCR 6 жыл бұрын
I came...here for this
@Ryotsu2112
@Ryotsu2112 6 жыл бұрын
Golden Age Those finger cots are also used in office environments for repeated page turning to grab the paper and avoid paper cuts.
@Koooo4
@Koooo4 6 жыл бұрын
One of the finger condoms has a hole in it too. That watch might get pregnant.
@iMadrid11
@iMadrid11 6 жыл бұрын
Fido Montoya - They’re also used by bus conductors who dispense paper tickets.
@skism007
@skism007 6 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind while watching this that some of his phrasing is very misleading. For example, when he says "the Japanese movement", he's referring to that specific Miyota caliber. Makes it sound like Japanese movements in general all share the same traits. Even Seiko's cheapest automatic movements wind in both directions. That's not something exclusive to the Swiss.
@jacobschouten9980
@jacobschouten9980 5 жыл бұрын
I believe him saying "Japanese movement" was contextual to the specific watch. Although I can definitely see where one might understand it as the watches' movements and parts are similar, I do not think that is what they were referring to.
@ChajisShorts
@ChajisShorts 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. I myself know nothing of watches or watch brands for that matter. So I'm naturally neutral on the whole Swiss versus Japanese movements. So given that, I did feel like he was throwing shade towards anything Japanese made. He made it seem as if all Japanese watches were cheaply made. Of course some basic research could prove otherwise, like the fact that he's comparing two movements that are priced very differently but not everyone is going to take the time to do the searching. Other than that it was a cool teardown. This guy could be a surgeon with hands that steady 🤣
@ark_knight
@ark_knight 5 жыл бұрын
@@ChajisShorts Oh he was definitely biased. He failed to mention that the Quartz crisis happened simply because Seiko released Astron. The first Quartz watch which brought a the whole watch luxury thing to its knees and to the common mass. There are many things Seiko is known for in the enthusiast community but the millennials, does it matter? Half the people are busy with 'finger condoms' apparently.
@thepjup4507
@thepjup4507 5 жыл бұрын
That really wasn't misleading at all. how can you not extrapolate that he is referring to "THE Japanese movement" as in THE watch that is in the video. You're being needlessly pedantic or you're dumb.
@ivanlagrossemoule
@ivanlagrossemoule 4 жыл бұрын
@@thepjup4507 Whenever the japanese are mentioned you get all the weebs absolutely needing to defend them, and with the watches you get the Seiko/Grand Seiko nuts defending them too.
@rajgill7576
@rajgill7576 5 жыл бұрын
17:00 seiko's magic lever brings bi directional winding to watches under $100
@vast634
@vast634 4 жыл бұрын
In practice it works poor compared to the gear solution in the ETA.
@elgatto3133
@elgatto3133 3 жыл бұрын
@@vast634 not really. the SII 7s26 is one of the most reliable watch movements ever made and it uses the magic lever system. I'd say it works pretty well even if not super efficient
@AvroBellow
@AvroBellow 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say that the most iconic Japanese movement out there (simply by volume) is the Seiko NH35A. That's a far more refined movement than the Miyota 8000-series.
@Illsamustache
@Illsamustache 2 жыл бұрын
For current production, yes. But I’m pretty sure that there have been more 7S26/36 movements made overall.
@AvroBellow
@AvroBellow 2 жыл бұрын
@@Illsamustache You could be right. I honestly don't know. All I know is that I have a ten year-old Invicta Grand Diver that has NEVER needed any servicing whatsoever and works perfectly even today. It of course has an NH35A.
@dmac1259
@dmac1259 Жыл бұрын
​​@@AvroBellow thats like saying "i havent changed my oil in 25,000 miles and my car is still running!". your watch needs to be serviced.
@ronronn3148
@ronronn3148 Жыл бұрын
@@dmac1259 you're ignoring the fact an astonishingly affordable movement has held up for a decade without servicing. thats an amazing achievement for the people that made it, thats the point hes trying to make. its a 100ish dollar watch and hes gotten a decade with it. cant really compare this to a car.
@darthgiggity7948
@darthgiggity7948 Жыл бұрын
​@@dmac1259 wow! What an astonishing and infallible analogy!
@chrono_ninja
@chrono_ninja 6 жыл бұрын
20:20 Did you just remove the pallet fork bridge with power still on the watch? You naughty boy.
@ryanmjewell
@ryanmjewell 6 жыл бұрын
Gabe Johnston just a smidge, but yeah...totally naughty
@bermchasin
@bermchasin 4 жыл бұрын
Oh no! Who TF would remove the pallet fork bridge with power still on the watch. That is just what I was thinking... what a dummy .... uhh.. right guys??!
@JohnathanHendrix
@JohnathanHendrix 4 жыл бұрын
Wow anyone should know thats a no-no.
@spittinvenom9671
@spittinvenom9671 3 жыл бұрын
Blasphemy
@Elfein
@Elfein 6 жыл бұрын
Now put them back together.
@kokboru5502
@kokboru5502 6 жыл бұрын
thats what a watchmaker does
@Ryotsu2112
@Ryotsu2112 6 жыл бұрын
E. Fine That’s his job.
@matz306
@matz306 6 жыл бұрын
#Constructed
@Josechpruiz
@Josechpruiz 6 жыл бұрын
I would end with lot of leftover screws after re assembling it
@ganjaman59650
@ganjaman59650 6 жыл бұрын
@@kokboru5502 then that's what he should have in the first place.
@ricardosime2654
@ricardosime2654 6 жыл бұрын
Good video. I just wish he used comparable Japanese and Swiss movements. These movements are not comparable at all.
@lolcat23
@lolcat23 6 жыл бұрын
Yes they are. Both entry level auto with date.
@ricardosime2654
@ricardosime2654 6 жыл бұрын
One runs at 21600 bph while the other runs at 28800 bph. It would have been nice to see him use the Miyota 9015 instead.
@OilBaron
@OilBaron 6 жыл бұрын
He's comparing two of the same carpenter watches; that 9015 movement isn't available in this series
@qmechkeys
@qmechkeys 6 жыл бұрын
@@lolcat23 The ETA 2824 is literally three times more expensive with more advanced functions
@taylorwatson7932
@taylorwatson7932 5 жыл бұрын
If you do another one of these, use movements of similar price range. You compared an economical Japanese movement to a high-end Swiss. Next time, make sure they’re in the same price bracket. That would make this a much more credible video.
@c.san.8751
@c.san.8751 2 жыл бұрын
@DiscoFalcon Not really a high end swiss movement.
@mygamingchannel8555
@mygamingchannel8555 2 жыл бұрын
Japan usually focus more on quality and reliability.. They skip the decorations.. But there are also high end japanese movement which are greatly decorated
@matthewmeredith3138
@matthewmeredith3138 2 жыл бұрын
The point of this video wasn't to say which of the two is better, it was just to show two different movements..... Not everything has to be a competition.
@MazdaRX7007
@MazdaRX7007 2 жыл бұрын
The problem with your request, is that the japanese would make something much better for much cheaper.
@c.san.8751
@c.san.8751 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewmeredith3138 No, but it usually is - human nature.
@xxxxyyyxxxx584
@xxxxyyyxxxx584 5 жыл бұрын
GS springdrive is objectively the best movement in existence at the moment
@hellraiser666666
@hellraiser666666 6 жыл бұрын
funny how his hat steals all the light he needs ^^
@Loic2020
@Loic2020 6 жыл бұрын
God bless you
@chrisfi3d
@chrisfi3d 6 жыл бұрын
Opposite of a good watch, lets form get in the way of function.
@glenjamindle
@glenjamindle 5 жыл бұрын
But m'lady
@jeremyjdl713
@jeremyjdl713 5 жыл бұрын
Reflected light?
@ado4224
@ado4224 4 жыл бұрын
He wore it for the camera. Normally people can't see his head balding.
@deusexaethera
@deusexaethera 6 жыл бұрын
13:23 - While it's true that the jewels are synthetic corundum, it is still accurate to call them rubies, because rubies _are_ corundum. So are sapphires. The only difference is the impurities that give the corundum its color. (in its pure form it's clear, which is why it can be used for watch faces as well.) Also, they aren't just used for friction reduction, they're also used for _wear_ reduction. The ratchet engages and disengages 250,000 times PER DAY, and watches are generally used for DECADES. Metal parts would wear-out in a few months at best in that scenario.
@benjaminbarrera214
@benjaminbarrera214 5 жыл бұрын
The old Timex watches used Armalloy metal bearings, no jewels at all. But by then people believed the number of jewels in a watch was an indication of quality, so the jewels are still there to justify the high price.
@JT-jg8le
@JT-jg8le 4 ай бұрын
​@@benjaminbarrera214yep. The seller sets the value and the buyer proves it true.
@Sssthpok
@Sssthpok 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge fan of Seiko chronographs.... I collect 6139 calibres, these were incredibly good value back in their day. Now wearing a Sport 5, and cannot overstate the value for money of these mechanical movements.... Swiss cannot touch these for price to quality ratio. BTW, your watchmaker should really not be breathing on the open movements ...
@luchadorito
@luchadorito 6 жыл бұрын
Which 6139s do you have? I had my eyes on them for a while but the prices are skyrocketing
@nocturnalmayhem0
@nocturnalmayhem0 6 жыл бұрын
@@luchadorito the best value in 6139 are the yellow dials i got one for 550 the silver dials (more rare) are shootin over 1000 dollars now
@luchadorito
@luchadorito 6 жыл бұрын
@@nocturnalmayhem0 Really? In my experience the cheap ones tend to be the 6139-6015s but that might be just my region
@TimB33
@TimB33 6 жыл бұрын
I'm just starting to collect 6139's. I'm planning on having ago at a service on one of the beaters in a week or two.
@MrMegaTubs
@MrMegaTubs 5 жыл бұрын
Have you ever had one apart to understand their "value for money"? Garish designs, hugely overpriced vintage market catering to Hodinkee Hipsters.
@sestrelbethesda9450
@sestrelbethesda9450 6 жыл бұрын
The best thing I’ve watched on KZbin for a very long time. I love my small watch collection,and you have given me a better understanding of their beating hearts !
@AlreadyTaken999
@AlreadyTaken999 6 жыл бұрын
Got "The carpenter watch with the swiss movement is $825 and the japanese movement retails for $595". Everything else is lost on me.
@wpherigo1
@wpherigo1 6 жыл бұрын
Of course, Seiko automatics wind in both directions. I think most Miyota autos are only unidirectional.
@schmerol
@schmerol 6 жыл бұрын
the swiss flag is square. kind regards, a swiss guy
@tipsysmichigander6483
@tipsysmichigander6483 6 жыл бұрын
If the issue is not sports and world-wide joy, but politics, then the Swiss flag is kept square, like outside the U.N. headquarters in New York and Geneva. Nepal and Switzerland are the only countries within the United Nations not showing the standard rectangular 2:3 flag but the original proportions.
@Apoz
@Apoz 6 жыл бұрын
@@tipsysmichigander6483 Don't call it a flag then?
@georgejpg
@georgejpg 6 жыл бұрын
@@tipsysmichigander6483 There are plenty of flags that aren't 2:3.
@tipsysmichigander6483
@tipsysmichigander6483 6 жыл бұрын
@@georgejpg Yes, there are, I did not suggest there were not any.
@DavidGonzalezSamudio
@DavidGonzalezSamudio 6 жыл бұрын
With all the watchmaking money, you sure can afford the rest of the flag. BTW, what is it with the holes in the cheese, is it related? do you need some bank credit?
@ViniSocramSaint
@ViniSocramSaint 6 жыл бұрын
Loved every second of it. Never would have thought the pieces in a watch were so tiny and there are way more pieces than just cogs, 3 arms and a spring! And it's nice to know jewels have more uses than just looking pretty. Keep it up with the breaking downs
@GulliNL
@GulliNL Жыл бұрын
Not trying to be pedantic, just want to enlighten you; the jewels they use in watch making are not the same jewels people would stick in a ring or a bracelet. They're often synthetic and mostly artificially colored to look red like rubies (that's why some manufacturers will list the amount of 'rubies' instead of 'jewels'). Their purpose is to act as a bearing, the material is incredibly hard (one hardness level below diamond) and they're oiled, so when the axle of one of the cogs rotates against it, it won't wear out as much.
@ViniSocramSaint
@ViniSocramSaint Жыл бұрын
@@GulliNL Yeah, learned about that these past 4 years. Most synthetic rubies are purple/lavender though, and learned about crystalline structures of metals that are even harder than diamonds. By the way, you should look into the uses of synthetic sapphires as long-life bearings - or types of quartz. Thanks for taking the time to educate, tho. That info would be gold for people that didn't know ^_^
@kylestokes4501
@kylestokes4501 5 жыл бұрын
Autopsy of a Swiss Watch vs. Japanese Watch, and both served me very well for years. A Seiko 5 SNK789 vs. a Tissot Automatic. Both bought in Dubai, both loyal serving YEARS later. Pick your taste. My wife laid claim to the Seiko, and I busted the Tissot on an Engineering Job, both breathlessly amazing engineered watches... appreciate the workmanship of both, pick your heart, choose, and you can’t go wrong. A Walmart Timex in quartz movement is actually more dependable- these are for gentleman and ladies who appreciate complications and engineering, an art as well as a science. A Masterpiece on your arm, no matter the cost. Both are mentally overwhelming at the price. Enjoy your purchase, and the sweat, labor, and meticulous machining and hand design that went into making a modern marvel, both will serve you well, and has my total respect, admiration, and awe!
@MamaLifeBre
@MamaLifeBre 2 жыл бұрын
Both are outstanding, could maybe be a better comparison but it's a fun video. I love the Japanese movements even more than Swiss, for example Grand Seiko's in-house movements like the Hi-beat Cal. 9SA5
@qassandraable
@qassandraable 6 жыл бұрын
I love this. My brother got into trouble for 'deconstructing' a watch. He was 5 at the time. I sent this right off to him.
@TheDavemarz
@TheDavemarz 6 жыл бұрын
I took everything apart as a child. I even broke a car door once. And now I'm a mechanical engineer and I take things apart, fix them, rebuild them or design replacements and get payed for it. I feel that kind of curiosity should be encouraged.
@obviousgreyman
@obviousgreyman 5 жыл бұрын
This makes me want a mechanical watch now just because of the incredible intricacies of them. I knew they were complicated but wow that is insane.
@thomasdrysdale4240
@thomasdrysdale4240 3 жыл бұрын
Prices only start at like 100 bucks
@obviousgreyman
@obviousgreyman 3 жыл бұрын
@@thomasdrysdale4240 what are some good brands that are around that price?
@hathaway.1166
@hathaway.1166 3 жыл бұрын
@@obviousgreyman None, if you really want a good watch with a decent movements, start at $300 or above. Baltic, Seiko, Hamilton, Orient and Tissot are the best brands I can think of.
@obviousgreyman
@obviousgreyman 3 жыл бұрын
@@hathaway.1166 that’s what I thought I was being a bit of a smartass with that guy I thought he’d at least have a recommendation.
@hathaway.1166
@hathaway.1166 3 жыл бұрын
@@obviousgreyman 😅
@adamsong8514
@adamsong8514 6 жыл бұрын
6:41 " It's a yoke!!!" - Fernando Alonso
@me-zb7qm
@me-zb7qm 6 жыл бұрын
Adam Song A YOKE!!!
@logwind
@logwind 6 жыл бұрын
GP2 engine. GP2.
@kronos1850
@kronos1850 5 жыл бұрын
This is the first chickEn,a bit of a long chickEn
@sultanabran1
@sultanabran1 4 жыл бұрын
what an idiot. hulkenburg was right.
@ve2zzz
@ve2zzz 4 жыл бұрын
9:20 VERY important step skipped here: Release all of the mainspring tension before removing any of the gear train bridges. Preferably, remove the pallet bridge first (after releasing mainspring tension) to make sure absolutely no energy is left in the mainspring.
@alaneasley6266
@alaneasley6266 5 ай бұрын
Very cool! Love the fact that he didn’t try and talk while working and saved the commentary for the voiceover.
@graemeroberts2935
@graemeroberts2935 6 жыл бұрын
I loved this so much. The ingenuity and precision of the engineering is inspiring, and Ryan Jewell is as articulate as he is skilled. Bravo!
@CNSZU
@CNSZU 6 жыл бұрын
This video should have added more commentary and analysis on the differences between the watches and how they tie in with the price difference. For example, how do the Swiss and Japanese come up with different solutions to the same problem and what are the pros and cons? Then, we could actually learn something useful.
@Nikioko
@Nikioko 6 жыл бұрын
Mechanical watches came back because modern computer-based production techniques made it possible to produce highly accurate parts for a resonable price. Up to the 70s, every cogwheel had to be either made by hand or by automatic production techniques with more specification tolerance resulting in less accurate watches.
@SimonsChannel
@SimonsChannel 5 жыл бұрын
"while Japan isn't necessarily known for its watchmaking" C A S I O
@diogeneslantern18
@diogeneslantern18 5 жыл бұрын
@@bodhisativaa Citizen, Miyota, Orient
@MegaZidzid
@MegaZidzid 5 жыл бұрын
Q&Q
@syedmohdfasihnaqvi155
@syedmohdfasihnaqvi155 4 жыл бұрын
First quartz watch- Seiko First Digital watch - Casio First Spring drive movement - Grand Seiko First Kinetic movement - Seiko First solar watch- Seiko First Artificial Light Powered watch- Citizen ( Ecodrive) And they are saying Japan isn't known for watchmaking
@UnburnableCow
@UnburnableCow 4 жыл бұрын
@@syedmohdfasihnaqvi155 Yes everyone who is into watches can recognise this but your average person on the street wouldn't. Stop being pretentious you bunch of snobs
@syltkaka9816
@syltkaka9816 4 жыл бұрын
@@UnburnableCow they are not snobs, they were just pointing out and correcting an obviously false statement.
@Beaches_south_of_L.A.
@Beaches_south_of_L.A. 3 жыл бұрын
This guy has an excellent quality for narration and explanation. Because of this video my enthusiasm for watches in general has increased ten fold.
@EMKWANREVIEWS
@EMKWANREVIEWS 5 жыл бұрын
This is awesome!
@ExopMan
@ExopMan 6 жыл бұрын
24:09 That watch is gonna be prego
@350606
@350606 6 жыл бұрын
Or is it the finger that gets preggo? Dun dun dun!
@MordecaiWalfish
@MordecaiWalfish 6 жыл бұрын
It's like the most intense game of Operation ever, watching him pull those little parts out with tweezers.
@michaelbrownlee9497
@michaelbrownlee9497 2 жыл бұрын
The incredible level of engineering involved in the wrist watch. Amazing.
@coldanielleensaijp9465
@coldanielleensaijp9465 Жыл бұрын
This is by far one of the best show when addressing watches: the inside works is the very heart of it. (Outstanding PR ) A must see for every: Swiss watch buyer
@Ahcelaht
@Ahcelaht 6 жыл бұрын
Hamilton still makes watches, but in Switzerland. I have one and I love it!!! Great brand.
@ATinyWaffle
@ATinyWaffle 6 жыл бұрын
He cares about not getting finger oils on the components but he touched nearly every piece with his index finger with a big hole ripped in the latex protector.
@em0_tion
@em0_tion 6 жыл бұрын
It's a demonstration, can you not complain and just appreciate what you witnessed? I'm sure he does a lot more stuff to such watches that he can't show us and we won't even comprehend. That was just the disassembly of 2 brand new watches, imagine repairing a broken and dirty old watch... Can't be perfect in everything, at least he is in what actually matters.
@WESTSIDEBBB
@WESTSIDEBBB 6 жыл бұрын
@@em0_tion Nobody is allowed to complain or comment on the broken finger condoms, got it. ATinyWaffle needs to relax, he's freaking out over nothing, right.
6 жыл бұрын
finger condoms*
@flybeep1661
@flybeep1661 6 жыл бұрын
@@WESTSIDEBBB Get lost with that stupid sarcasm snowflake.
@bitfreakazoid
@bitfreakazoid 6 жыл бұрын
It's a legitimate point. Not to mention only has them on the one hand, but at times uses his other hand to manipulate something.
@jonnywaselectric
@jonnywaselectric 6 жыл бұрын
Very entertaining, having worked in manufacturing I would find all the tooling and custom machines that made all those parts extremely interesting
@evindrews
@evindrews 6 жыл бұрын
I think that would be the most interesting part.
@jurivlk5433
@jurivlk5433 6 жыл бұрын
+Russ Olson They were geniuses and made a lot by hand. Let's say 200 years ago they already had machines to put up some mass production, but earlier they filed the dented wheels all by hand. That's why watches were very expensives. I have a friend that is almost crazy and he is able to reproduce any part by hand or with a simple machine. And oh my God!, He can spend more than a day on a wheel!
@JimIBobIJones
@JimIBobIJones 2 жыл бұрын
Compare it grade to grade... The Miyota is a bottom of the barrel entry level movement. Compare similar grades: compare a Miyota 90xx or a Seiko 6rxx.
@egonzalez4294
@egonzalez4294 5 жыл бұрын
Such mechanism does exactly the same and less accurately than a 1mm chip with a tiny quartz crystal, it's amazing how much we have progressed, watchmaking is an acient art in a way.
@notaspy_3604
@notaspy_3604 4 жыл бұрын
Mechanical watches are still better
@FirstNameLastName-kt3zn
@FirstNameLastName-kt3zn 2 жыл бұрын
@@notaspy_3604 no they are not. A quartz watch is always more accurate
@drapsin89
@drapsin89 6 жыл бұрын
For me is interesting part is the level of precision manufacturing on those small pieces he kept pulling out. And also I'm wondering if those pieces are assembled by a watchmaker by hand or is it like a factory process where all of this is automated.
@Dragonwar0
@Dragonwar0 Жыл бұрын
To answer your 4 year old comment. By hand 😂
@doktoruzo
@doktoruzo 5 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. I would like to see the video of him putting them all back together.
@JesusChristIsLord__
@JesusChristIsLord__ 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. Just speechless at the production value and at how well done and helpful this is. Thank you!!!
@j.j.k9349
@j.j.k9349 5 жыл бұрын
I took apart a watch once to fix a movement, and was so confused by all of the little pieces I couldn't put it back together. This is really a skilled trade.
@s3077769
@s3077769 6 жыл бұрын
I enjoy watching videos of watches getting serviced, but it can get a little tedious. Kudos to this guy for keep me on the edge of my seat the whole time
@echochambers8418
@echochambers8418 6 жыл бұрын
I would put ANY Seiko in similar Price Range of Swiss Watches as just good if not better.Seiko Baby monster to Seiko 5 To Grand Master are all Amazing watches.
@hernancoronel
@hernancoronel 6 жыл бұрын
At 12:23 he leaves a fingerprint on the barrel cap.
@kitchen415
@kitchen415 6 жыл бұрын
What kind of watch is he wearing?
@Ahcelaht
@Ahcelaht 4 жыл бұрын
Hamilton is still around though, they just moved to Switzerland and are part of the Swatch group. It's one of my favorite brands, I have 3 of them and they're great!
@pav4540
@pav4540 Жыл бұрын
Loved the part at 23:30, especially the "people will wear something that is a reflection of themselves, is how they express themselves, by the watches they choose
@itsalgud1459
@itsalgud1459 5 жыл бұрын
Fascinating video! I’ve been doing a lot of research about watches for over a year now, including a lot of time looking at simulations of how a mechanical movement works. I understand this pretty well by now, but watching you disassemble two different very well known movements has just been amazing. I really appreciate your doing this and explaining it so clearly. I cannot imagine anyone having the skills to handle these microscopic parts, being someone with all the eye hand coordination of a rhinoceros! 😩 thanks very much for this great information.👍
@zszs22334455
@zszs22334455 6 жыл бұрын
"While Japan isn't necessarily known for its watchmaking" You are the frog in the well that knows nothing of the great ocean. lol
@JETBLACKPRIEST
@JETBLACKPRIEST 5 жыл бұрын
He isn't necessarily wrong, the average consumer would likely recognise Japan for their culture, pop culture, cars, etc etc before watch making, you kinda gotta be a watch guy to know about it
@Ruminatee
@Ruminatee 5 жыл бұрын
Aussie Viking II everyone knows what seiko is
@JamesMinerTattoo
@JamesMinerTattoo 5 жыл бұрын
Ruminate yeah but the swiss are world famous for luxury mechanicals. That was his point
@benjamin-sch
@benjamin-sch 5 жыл бұрын
@@Ruminatee Didn't know it was japanese. Just assumed it was a fancy name.
@engeenir7440
@engeenir7440 5 жыл бұрын
OK nerd
@CyberMacGyver
@CyberMacGyver 5 жыл бұрын
every single intricate bit was handmade to perfection. not to mention the tools too. this craft doesn't get the recognition it deserves.. creating time is the closest thing we have to creating life 👌🏼
@windward2818
@windward2818 Жыл бұрын
Is the Swiss Lever Escapement self starting, even after impact? Does the Hack stop the balance wheel when wound?
@CDankies
@CDankies 3 жыл бұрын
We need more of these!
@Raditram
@Raditram 6 жыл бұрын
For the next episode I want "a Boeing 737 deconstructed". I don't care if it's only CAD drawings or be 40 hour long video.
@planpitz4190
@planpitz4190 6 жыл бұрын
Including the jet engines? blade by blade ? That will take more than 40 hours!
@qanh96
@qanh96 6 жыл бұрын
I read too quickly and thought the title said "Watchmaker Breaks Down Swiss Cheese". Oh well, this is interesting too.
@janson2911
@janson2911 5 жыл бұрын
I honestly finna watch a video with a title like that
@ag8325
@ag8325 5 жыл бұрын
We are watching this, let's be honest, we would watch that too
@srikanthr.lakshmanrao1019
@srikanthr.lakshmanrao1019 6 жыл бұрын
Good education.. I liked it because I am a mechanical watch lover !!!! I love both Swiss and Japan
@RickfromVancouver
@RickfromVancouver 6 жыл бұрын
This is why like browsing through KZbin. I would never think of looking for this type of video, but I watched it right through and learned some things about mechanical watches.
@nicolajhardbass1608
@nicolajhardbass1608 4 жыл бұрын
The one guy who thinks: "oh it's not that hard, I think I'll take my watch apart and clean it" for my first 2824-2 it took me 5 days to repair, now I'm under a day but I learned it and I had a experienced watchmaker who told me what I had to do. (Still took me 5 days to do it properly)
@hades1127
@hades1127 5 жыл бұрын
My Brain at 2AM: Why don't we watch someone deconstruct a watch Me: Perfect!!
@diffendur
@diffendur 6 жыл бұрын
This was really cool please do more episodes!!
@WIRED
@WIRED 6 жыл бұрын
This was actually the second episode in our series, [De]constructed. Here's the first, about a 1974 Harley Shovelhead: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZCcn4OHe7-BeK8 . Thanks for watching -- and commenting!
@clray123
@clray123 6 жыл бұрын
We need a surgeon deconstructing a living patient.
@saiskanda
@saiskanda 6 жыл бұрын
Loving this new series! 😍 Please make a lot more deconstructed videos 😍
@beakytwitch7905
@beakytwitch7905 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for naming the parts, and showing the differences in construction. Fascinating !
@FrankLavoy
@FrankLavoy 3 жыл бұрын
I’m impressed by this type of dedication to details … small details. Thanks for sharing.
@TsetsiStoyanova
@TsetsiStoyanova 3 жыл бұрын
I have missed the point of this video
@handsonfire6113
@handsonfire6113 3 жыл бұрын
to let you know finger condoms exist
@mario6279
@mario6279 4 жыл бұрын
These watches are still gonna be telling time long after we’re dead that’s why I find them amazing
@bermchasin
@bermchasin 4 жыл бұрын
...what?! no. They wont. They have to be wound every 2 days. Once we are dead, they will die soon after.
@mario6279
@mario6279 3 жыл бұрын
@@bermchasin obviously new owners will wind them
@andrerouth4253
@andrerouth4253 3 жыл бұрын
Very nicely paced disassembly and commentary. The ETA seems like a better movement than the Miyota but the difference in price seems disproportionate. The lack of a hacking mechanism and the use of a plastic gear in the Miyota would move most discerning buyers towards the Swiss movement. Also, the ETA 2824 has 4 (or 5?) different accuracy grades (timing stability in multiple positions). How would you rate the two movements in terms of reliability, maintainability, and repairability?
@dmac1259
@dmac1259 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, he definitely made the swiss movement look better by choosing a lower tier japanese movement to compare it to.
@treetrout3987
@treetrout3987 4 жыл бұрын
I have had a Swiss watch on my wrist since 1991. My dear late Wife purchased it for me and with the exception of 1 idiot who messed it up during cleaning, and it had to be sent away, I've never been without it. I have it on now. I have to say in my near 60 yrs I've never seen a watch keep such good time or stand up to so much punishment in the elements. I've always boated, canoed, and fly fished and skied since I was a kid so it's been through all that. I love it and I hope I'm never without it - I want to leave it to my son as is Trad.
@Doellimann
@Doellimann 2 жыл бұрын
A few years ago after owning many chinese made cheap automatic watches ive got my hands on a Omega Speedmaster reduced (automatic chronograph) and that changed my perception completely! These watches are mechanical marvels.. the 1141 clockwork is only 25,6mm in diameter and 3,6mm high… all assembled the „small“ speedy is looking like a Quarz watch but if you know what’s going on inside of that tiny case its just fascinating every time you look at it. Ok… they are expensive to buy and expensive to maintain (in my case 400€ every 5 years) but if you got a skilled watchmaker to service it, you have a watch for the rest of your days.
@Rejie7S248
@Rejie7S248 6 жыл бұрын
FYI: Music at the start is Sunset Drive by Future Joust.
@divyanshuthakur
@divyanshuthakur 6 жыл бұрын
You're the real MVP.
@what0ever0lah
@what0ever0lah 6 жыл бұрын
thanks
@leontedumitru
@leontedumitru 5 жыл бұрын
There is no freaking way you can assemble that back! No way!
@AnimeVideoEditor
@AnimeVideoEditor 5 жыл бұрын
im a watchmaker and believe me, if you do that every day it´s easy.
@radry100
@radry100 6 жыл бұрын
Why is the japanese movement cheaper than the swiss one if the swiss one uses fewer parts? Is it because of the additional automatic function of the swiss one?
@Kletterhaus
@Kletterhaus 6 жыл бұрын
They are both automatic. Swiss Watches are generally more expensive.
@yordlejay6820
@yordlejay6820 6 жыл бұрын
Swiss watches are considered to be the best quality of craftsmanship you can have for watches
@namenikename1121
@namenikename1121 6 жыл бұрын
The price of a swiss engineer is higher than a japanese one, and in the swiss watch there's absolutely no plastic.
@jr_kulik
@jr_kulik 6 жыл бұрын
The Swiss one is just much better quality, that shouldn’t be a surprise.
@snoworder
@snoworder 6 жыл бұрын
as you might see in the video some japanese components are made of plastic and some components are not as efficient as swiss (reverse rotary).
@jaisuryabanerjee
@jaisuryabanerjee 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best videos of its kind on YT..
@ianmacfarlane1241
@ianmacfarlane1241 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fascinating. My uncle is (was - retired) a watchmaker for Watches of Switzerland - a high end proprietor of watches. I wish I'd considered it seriously when I was younger.
@PHlophe
@PHlophe 2 жыл бұрын
Iain you can still do it. don't let your uncle's knowledge go to waste. you need to pick his brain
@cncaliguy09
@cncaliguy09 6 жыл бұрын
Reusing busted finger condoms is a big nono.
@MM-vs2et
@MM-vs2et 6 жыл бұрын
Might get that watch pregnant
@MichaelHarto
@MichaelHarto 6 жыл бұрын
@@MM-vs2et forget pregnant, he might get that watch STDs. Who knows how many chinese knock off watches this guy touches before..
@markcoveryourassets
@markcoveryourassets 5 жыл бұрын
Will they be sinosuisse or suissesino? Definitely a litter of 7.25 ligne movements on their way. Labor and delivery will be on time, for sure.
@Michael-Gill
@Michael-Gill 6 жыл бұрын
Would have been a better video with a Grand Seiko Spring Drive as the Japanese movement. Even a Grand Seiko Hi-Beat would be a better Japanese contrast to the Swiss movement. The GS Spring Drive is where it's at, though. Puts Swiss movement to shame.
@vincentiuskennaldy9512
@vincentiuskennaldy9512 6 жыл бұрын
Spring drive is a kind of hybrid movement, so its not apple to apple to compare it with pure mech...
@publiusvelocitor4668
@publiusvelocitor4668 5 жыл бұрын
Yes; GS Hi-Beat vs. Zenith El Premiero would be a good comparison.
@WPL410
@WPL410 5 жыл бұрын
“The acids in your skin permanently etch into the plating and finish” Me: sees hole in finger cot...
@markyates6206
@markyates6206 4 жыл бұрын
WOW!!!! What a video!!! I sat here completely captivated! I love the way you edit the two different views, and narrate with clear concise language... Thank you so much, for giving us a look, into the secret magical mystery world, of watchmaking! Utterly fascinating! You display such a vast amount of knowledge... and, at what appears to be such a young age! How did you become so knowledgeable, so early on? You have all my respect and admiration young man!!! My hat is off to you!
@paulwilson3434
@paulwilson3434 4 жыл бұрын
This is a keeper. The best explanation. Note I am now learning this a hobby. After working as a doctor for 37 years , I needed a hobby . Something better than model cars or airplanes. Thank you my friend. You are very good
@steverocksyo
@steverocksyo 6 жыл бұрын
When you drop that one screw on the floor and have to look for it.
@Stralows
@Stralows 6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!! Please continue with this series !! They are awesome! I really enjoyed the two episodes so far!
@flipinasia
@flipinasia 6 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered why a hermetically sealed watch would ever need servicing. No dust, no wear. Can someone explain why high-dollar watches need to be disassembled and cleaned while a cheap beater watch will run for seemingly forever without ever being serviced?
@jsnipn
@jsnipn 6 жыл бұрын
The movement can't tolerate anything because it's so precise. A cheap watch will do some weird stuff at about the same rate, but you probably won't notice because it's a cheap watch so who cares
@flipinasia
@flipinasia 6 жыл бұрын
@@jsnipn In that case, I would expect that these watches would be assembled and serviced in a clean room. If not, you're just swapping one batch of environmental dust/airborne particles for another with each service interval.
@jurivlk5433
@jurivlk5433 6 жыл бұрын
Nothing is absolutely water or dust proof. Small molecules always get in and out. And the gaskets do wear when using your watch every day, especialy the modern plastic gaskets. The best gaskets were used on the 1938 to 1970s Mido watches: Lead and cork.
@TheLovinMinecraft
@TheLovinMinecraft 6 жыл бұрын
High dollar watches can also go for a long time without being serviced, normally people have them serviced to prevent expensive repairs down the road. The oil used dries up, and friction will start wearing the pivots. An inexpensive watch will just be replaced when it breaks. And most inexpensive watches are quartz, which have fewer parts that are susceptible to wear. Hope this helps.
@Optidorf
@Optidorf 6 жыл бұрын
Because of wear and tear. A watch consists of dozens of mechanical parts that need lubrication after several years. Otherwise these parts will stop working. As mentionned in the video some parts need to be replaced as well such as the mainspring.
@themrgumbatron
@themrgumbatron Жыл бұрын
I’ve taken a few watches apart and put them back together, this is a great tutorial.
@jacc88888
@jacc88888 5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and enjoyable comparison but why not compare a comparable spec Japanese movement like a Miyota 9015 with the Swiss one rather than a bottom of the range Japanese one with it's plastic gears, less efficient automatic winding, and slow date change? Of course the Swiss ETA is going to be superior : it is a more refined and much more expensive movement.
@albispayg7257
@albispayg7257 6 жыл бұрын
Do you know iFixit? This was it in the 1900, feel old?
@atopoa.5700
@atopoa.5700 5 жыл бұрын
Is this completelly useless for my life? Yes Did I see the whole video? Yes Am I going to see a similar video by Bloomberg? Yes
@Jorj57
@Jorj57 4 жыл бұрын
Just get a mechanical watch bro
@Longshanks1956
@Longshanks1956 6 жыл бұрын
If I had my time again, I would love to have trained as a watchmaker......Thank you.
@pbxn-3rdx-85percent
@pbxn-3rdx-85percent 3 жыл бұрын
Whatever happens, absolutely no sneezing or all these tiny parts would fly in every direction.
@Carpenters_Canvas
@Carpenters_Canvas 3 жыл бұрын
It’s really amazing how small all this stuff is and so precise
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