Watchmaker Breaks Down Swiss vs Japanese Made Watches | WIRED

Professional watchmaker Ryan Jewell breaks down two different Carpenter watches; one watch with Japanese movement and another with Swiss movement.
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[@thelexico5972]

When I was in Austria I found a whole TV channel dedicated to a guy making watches, saying nothing and with no music and 8 camera angles. It was really nice to watch in the evening.

[@elshizz]

I would subscribe SO FAST to that channel!

[@goku445]

Austrians are weirdos confirmed.

[@Autechltd]

@@goku445 If they don't release that pent up autism, bad things happen.

[@PLBW81]

what was the name of the channel?

[@armanke13]

I wonder how many unit can they make a week or a month, 🤔

[@TheRockerX]

I felt a very weird combination of fascination and boredom while watching this

[@MrMinusguy]

this is on point

[@Triggerboy78]

Interesting enough to watch it, but boring enough to jump forward once in a while to finally see a result :)

[@youmongrel]

Is that the definition of "contentment?"

[@RNCHFND]

Exactly what I was thinking. I made until 7 minutes and thought to myself "this guy is legit and that's a cool craft but I should watch something else"

[@Tayl0NP]

I for one, was whelmed

[@azmanntoz]

What I like about brands such as seiko and orient is that you can purchase a well made, budget watch with its own brand movement. With Swiss watches you tend to have to jump many price brackets to get the same claim. Even some of the so called luxury brands just run decorated ETA movements.

[@teheipod]

In house movements are great and all, but the ETA 7750 is one of the most reliable and accurate chronograph movements ever created. ETA movement isn't a necessarily bad thing in a luxury watch, they're very high quality. That said, also look at nomos, they offer in-house German movements at super affordable prices.

[@darthgiggity7948]

​@@teheipod it isn't though. And using ETA too much is a sign of laziness. Aren't they capable of innovation? Lol

[@itovenaar6920]

@@teheipod nomos is super affordable? Since when.

[@cc8530]

@@darthgiggity7948 I know what you mean, I liken it to car/engine manufacture. The EV movement is the quartz crisis for cars coming and I feel it will revert back to ICE due to battery issues down the line.

[@Carbonpolter]

I mean, ETA really mastered the production of great movements. Why should you use different movements if they are working great? Never change a wining team. 😅

[@BernardTheMandeville]

Comparing a ~$250,- ETA movement to a ~$75,- Miyota seems unfair when you never mention the price difference of the movements themselves.

[@alfistibrasiliani]

ok, can you name a japanese movement in the same price range? give us an exemple

[@urieelSEptim]

alfistibrasiliani what about the miyota 9015? its considered better than the eta, still cheaper.

[@gmansplit]

@@alfistibrasiliani I can name Japanese movements in a much higher price range. Anything Grand Seiko makes. The Miyota 9015 would also be more comparable to the ETA 2824-2, Seiko's 6R15, 8L35 etc.

[@zakofrx]

I have seen that Miyota for a lot cheaper than $75.

[@spare97]

@@gmansplit He asked in the same price range. A Grand Seiko movement is more in the same price range as an Omega in-house movement. The Seiko Spring Drive movement is over $1000 for example.

[@awatson22]

‘Hmm I understand how it all works now’ - No-one

[@jimbert50]

@Spiritpoweredinternet I still don't understand. lol Well, except in very general terms.

[@manwhoneversleeps]

Spiritpoweredinternet "watch"

[@ArchesBro]

Basically, there is a spring that is wound that will slowly unwind to power the hands on the clock. It unwinds slowly because it is attached to a spinning thingy that can only spin so fast because of air resistance. That is connected to the gears that will spin the 3 hands, those 3 hands have different gear ratios so that they spin at their particular speeds. The real magic is putting all these little things in there stacked on top of each other. The mechanism to wind up the watch is essentially a gear inside of a gear, so that when you rewind it, you dont change the position of the outer gear. It's very simple if you look at an animation of the couple things happening. Extremely tedious to manufacture. I cant imagine what all it takes to make them. Probably have a "how its made" episode out there.

[@yodamunkey]

Haha I just woke everyone up, I think. Never laughed that loud at a comment - caught me off guard!

[@ArchesBro]

@CYZ Aero I actually found a good video explaining it. The escapement isn't actually like I described. Apparently high end watches use a mechanical escapement, not an air resistance one. I'm just a dumb guy on the internet who shouldn't be trusted I guess. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fWK7c5VtoK99jck

[@omegagavin]

Grand Seiko vs Rolex comparison would be interesting.

[@MonkeyChocolate]

I actually wear my SARB035 (6R15D) more than GMT Master. Because it just looks simpler and there's a love on its white dial.

[@safinasir6683]

yeahh seiko gang

[@kristian1300]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qKikkJp3fciggtU There you go

[@Merthalophor]

@@MonkeyChocolate the only reason you said that was to tell us that you own such a watch

[@iamtoast3397]

@@Merthalophor Surely not, he must have thought this information would enrich our lives 😂

[@MaxxSend]

Can you imagine if your cat jumped on the table and knocked that entire parts tray to the floor.

[@yamawaw9572]

i imagine you jump, will be flying side kick landed in second :P

[@biglezmate3830]

@@abyss3741 I'd be pouring gravy on that pussycat.

[@jessecoulter3476]

What cat??

[@impact0r]

Cat would subsequently be jumped out of the window on the top floor.

[@alandriasheffer1779]

Literally my first thought lol

[@jong9992]

Comparing a $50 Miyota movement with a $250 eta

[@tresconik]

@R. Schowiada71 possibly.. higher beat rate means it can be more easily regulated, hacking means time can be set more exactly, and the miyota will be dumped and replaced in a service while the eta may have small parts replaced but you will largely have the same movement, if that makes any difference to you.

[@HH60gPaveHawk]

Odd they didn't compare more... equitable movements. a Miyota 9015 would be a much better comparison to the 2824 in both price and quality

[@EthnHDmlle]

Japanese watches are based after European designs. It wouldn't make sense to compare the two.

[@Speed_7545]

How about the 6R15

[@david111davies]

Yes it does, they are different enough and many of the Swiss designs are old as the hills and some Japan ones are recent past.

[@alerojas2952]

You yankee piece of sh¡t

[@EthnHDmlle]

Michal Nazareth you’re right. I should have specified mechanical watch.

[@halicusnguyen8864]

I can imagine accidentally inhaling one of those parts.

[@rajgill7576]

17:00 seiko's magic lever brings bi directional winding to watches under $100

[@vast634]

In practice it works poor compared to the gear solution in the ETA.

[@elgatto3133]

@@vast634 not really. the SII 7s26 is one of the most reliable watch movements ever made and it uses the magic lever system. I'd say it works pretty well even if not super efficient

[@skism007]

Keep in mind while watching this that some of his phrasing is very misleading. For example, when he says "the Japanese movement", he's referring to that specific Miyota caliber. Makes it sound like Japanese movements in general all share the same traits. Even Seiko's cheapest automatic movements wind in both directions. That's not something exclusive to the Swiss.

[@jacobschouten9980]

I believe him saying "Japanese movement" was contextual to the specific watch. Although I can definitely see where one might understand it as the watches' movements and parts are similar, I do not think that is what they were referring to.

[@ChajisShorts]

I agree. I myself know nothing of watches or watch brands for that matter. So I'm naturally neutral on the whole Swiss versus Japanese movements. So given that, I did feel like he was throwing shade towards anything Japanese made. He made it seem as if all Japanese watches were cheaply made. Of course some basic research could prove otherwise, like the fact that he's comparing two movements that are priced very differently but not everyone is going to take the time to do the searching. Other than that it was a cool teardown. This guy could be a surgeon with hands that steady 🤣

[@ark_knight]

@@ChajisShorts Oh he was definitely biased. He failed to mention that the Quartz crisis happened simply because Seiko released Astron. The first Quartz watch which brought a the whole watch luxury thing to its knees and to the common mass. There are many things Seiko is known for in the enthusiast community but the millennials, does it matter? Half the people are busy with 'finger condoms' apparently.

[@thepjup4507]

That really wasn't misleading at all. how can you not extrapolate that he is referring to "THE Japanese movement" as in THE watch that is in the video. You're being needlessly pedantic or you're dumb.

[@ivanlagrossemoule]

@@thepjup4507 Whenever the japanese are mentioned you get all the weebs absolutely needing to defend them, and with the watches you get the Seiko/Grand Seiko nuts defending them too.

[@toyotaprius79]

WIRED, you need James May to do this.

[@haydenfleetwood9261]

toyotaprius79 he’s it a watchmaker

[@robinrai4973]

"Oh bollocks"

[@opusfluke2354]

Half the video would be him explaining the difference between Philips Headed and Japanese Industrial Standard screws.

[@AboveSomething]

after organizing them by size @@opusfluke2354

[@Drive-n-Vibe]

he does seem to collect watches but he'd be useless at this

[@hellraiser666666]

funny how his hat steals all the light he needs ^^

[@Loic2020]

God bless you

[@chrisfi3d]

Opposite of a good watch, lets form get in the way of function.

[@glenjamindle]

But m'lady

[@jeremyjdl713]

Reflected light?

[@ado4224]

He wore it for the camera. Normally people can't see his head balding.

[@sestrelbethesda9450]

The best thing I’ve watched on KZbin for a very long time. I love my small watch collection,and you have given me a better understanding of their beating hearts !

[@michaelbrownlee9497]

The incredible level of engineering involved in the wrist watch. Amazing.

[@giganticsubwayrat]

20:20 Did you just remove the pallet fork bridge with power still on the watch? You naughty boy.

[@ryanmjewell]

Gabe Johnston just a smidge, but yeah...totally naughty

[@bermchasin]

Oh no! Who TF would remove the pallet fork bridge with power still on the watch. That is just what I was thinking... what a dummy .... uhh.. right guys??!

[@JohnathanHendrix]

Wow anyone should know thats a no-no.

[@spittinvenom9671]

Blasphemy

[@graemeroberts2935]

I loved this so much. The ingenuity and precision of the engineering is inspiring, and Ryan Jewell is as articulate as he is skilled. Bravo!

[@JesusChristIsLord__]

Wow. Just speechless at the production value and at how well done and helpful this is. Thank you!!!

[@AvroBellow]

I'd say that the most iconic Japanese movement out there (simply by volume) is the Seiko NH35A. That's a far more refined movement than the Miyota 8000-series.

[@kingofpentacles3213]

For current production, yes. But I’m pretty sure that there have been more 7S26/36 movements made overall.

[@AvroBellow]

@@kingofpentacles3213 You could be right. I honestly don't know. All I know is that I have a ten year-old Invicta Grand Diver that has NEVER needed any servicing whatsoever and works perfectly even today. It of course has an NH35A.

[@dmac1259]

​​@@AvroBellow thats like saying "i havent changed my oil in 25,000 miles and my car is still running!". your watch needs to be serviced.

[@ronronn3148]

@@dmac1259 you're ignoring the fact an astonishingly affordable movement has held up for a decade without servicing. thats an amazing achievement for the people that made it, thats the point hes trying to make. its a 100ish dollar watch and hes gotten a decade with it. cant really compare this to a car.

[@darthgiggity7948]

​@@dmac1259 wow! What an astonishing and infallible analogy!

[@FleshWolf]

This is really cool, but... finger condoms

[@MRLONG758]

My thoughts exactly

[@AndreaVerdiCR]

I came...here for this

[@Ryotsu2112]

Golden Age Those finger cots are also used in office environments for repeated page turning to grab the paper and avoid paper cuts.

[@Koooo4]

One of the finger condoms has a hole in it too. That watch might get pregnant.

[@iMadrid11]

Fido Montoya - They’re also used by bus conductors who dispense paper tickets.

[@saiskandapgs]

Loving this new series! 😍 Please make a lot more deconstructed videos 😍

[@itsalgud1459]

Fascinating video! I’ve been doing a lot of research about watches for over a year now, including a lot of time looking at simulations of how a mechanical movement works. I understand this pretty well by now, but watching you disassemble two different very well known movements has just been amazing. I really appreciate your doing this and explaining it so clearly. I cannot imagine anyone having the skills to handle these microscopic parts, being someone with all the eye hand coordination of a rhinoceros! 😩 thanks very much for this great information.👍

[@Beaches_south_of_L.A.]

This guy has an excellent quality for narration and explanation. Because of this video my enthusiasm for watches in general has increased ten fold.

[@Elfein]

Now put them back together.

[@kokboru5502]

thats what a watchmaker does

[@Ryotsu2112]

E. Fine That’s his job.

[@matz306]

#Constructed

[@Josechpruiz]

I would end with lot of leftover screws after re assembling it

[@ganjaman59650]

@@kokboru5502 then that's what he should have in the first place.

[@cyrilio]

I need more of these kind of videos. Very nice to go through this in a leisurely pace.

[@careychan7726]

This is incredible! Update more amazing contents in this series please!

[@beakytwitch7905]

Thank you for naming the parts, and showing the differences in construction. Fascinating !

[@ViniSocramSaint]

Loved every second of it. Never would have thought the pieces in a watch were so tiny and there are way more pieces than just cogs, 3 arms and a spring! And it's nice to know jewels have more uses than just looking pretty. Keep it up with the breaking downs

[@GulliNL]

Not trying to be pedantic, just want to enlighten you; the jewels they use in watch making are not the same jewels people would stick in a ring or a bracelet. They're often synthetic and mostly artificially colored to look red like rubies (that's why some manufacturers will list the amount of 'rubies' instead of 'jewels'). Their purpose is to act as a bearing, the material is incredibly hard (one hardness level below diamond) and they're oiled, so when the axle of one of the cogs rotates against it, it won't wear out as much.

[@ViniSocramSaint]

@@GulliNL Yeah, learned about that these past 4 years. Most synthetic rubies are purple/lavender though, and learned about crystalline structures of metals that are even harder than diamonds. By the way, you should look into the uses of synthetic sapphires as long-life bearings - or types of quartz. Thanks for taking the time to educate, tho. That info would be gold for people that didn't know ^_^

[@ricardosime2654]

Good video. I just wish he used comparable Japanese and Swiss movements. These movements are not comparable at all.

[@lolcat23]

Yes they are. Both entry level auto with date.

[@ricardosime2654]

One runs at 21600 bph while the other runs at 28800 bph. It would have been nice to see him use the Miyota 9015 instead.

[@OilBaron]

He's comparing two of the same carpenter watches; that 9015 movement isn't available in this series

[@qmechkeys]

@@lolcat23 The ETA 2824 is literally three times more expensive with more advanced functions

[@FrankLavoy]

I’m impressed by this type of dedication to details … small details. Thanks for sharing.

[@obviousgreyman]

This makes me want a mechanical watch now just because of the incredible intricacies of them. I knew they were complicated but wow that is insane.

[@thomasdrysdale4240]

Prices only start at like 100 bucks

[@obviousgreyman]

@@thomasdrysdale4240 what are some good brands that are around that price?

[@hathaway.1166]

@@obviousgreyman None, if you really want a good watch with a decent movements, start at $300 or above. Baltic, Seiko, Hamilton, Orient and Tissot are the best brands I can think of.

[@obviousgreyman]

@@hathaway.1166 that’s what I thought I was being a bit of a smartass with that guy I thought he’d at least have a recommendation.

[@hathaway.1166]

@@obviousgreyman 😅

[@Stralows]

Brilliant!! Please continue with this series !! They are awesome! I really enjoyed the two episodes so far!

[@MamaLifeBre]

Both are outstanding, could maybe be a better comparison but it's a fun video. I love the Japanese movements even more than Swiss, for example Grand Seiko's in-house movements like the Hi-beat Cal. 9SA5

[@jacktsipcis6341]

Amazing video!! Thank you so much. Beautifully done, very interesting, and professional. I can see that you are an artist. The attention to detail in the production of the video is superb.

[@markyates6206]

WOW!!!! What a video!!! I sat here completely captivated! I love the way you edit the two different views, and narrate with clear concise language... Thank you so much, for giving us a look, into the secret magical mystery world, of watchmaking! Utterly fascinating! You display such a vast amount of knowledge... and, at what appears to be such a young age! How did you become so knowledgeable, so early on? You have all my respect and admiration young man!!! My hat is off to you!

[@doktoruzo]

Fascinating. I would like to see the video of him putting them all back together.

[@jonnywaselectric]

Very entertaining, having worked in manufacturing I would find all the tooling and custom machines that made all those parts extremely interesting

[@evindrews]

I think that would be the most interesting part.

[@jurivlk5433]

+Russ Olson They were geniuses and made a lot by hand. Let's say 200 years ago they already had machines to put up some mass production, but earlier they filed the dented wheels all by hand. That's why watches were very expensives. I have a friend that is almost crazy and he is able to reproduce any part by hand or with a simple machine. And oh my God!, He can spend more than a day on a wheel!

[@s3077769]

I enjoy watching videos of watches getting serviced, but it can get a little tedious. Kudos to this guy for keep me on the edge of my seat the whole time

[@shmutube]

Totally mesmerizing! Thanks so much for this video! I just got into the hobby, more as a enthusiast than a collector.

[@deusexaethera]

13:23 - While it's true that the jewels are synthetic corundum, it is still accurate to call them rubies, because rubies _are_ corundum. So are sapphires. The only difference is the impurities that give the corundum its color. (in its pure form it's clear, which is why it can be used for watch faces as well.) Also, they aren't just used for friction reduction, they're also used for _wear_ reduction. The ratchet engages and disengages 250,000 times PER DAY, and watches are generally used for DECADES. Metal parts would wear-out in a few months at best in that scenario.

[@benjaminbarrera214]

The old Timex watches used Armalloy metal bearings, no jewels at all. But by then people believed the number of jewels in a watch was an indication of quality, so the jewels are still there to justify the high price.

[@AlreadyTaken999]

Got "The carpenter watch with the swiss movement is $825 and the japanese movement retails for $595". Everything else is lost on me.

[@taylorwatson7932]

If you do another one of these, use movements of similar price range. You compared an economical Japanese movement to a high-end Swiss. Next time, make sure they’re in the same price bracket. That would make this a much more credible video.

[@c.san.8751]

@DiscoFalcon Not really a high end swiss movement.

[@mygamingchannel8555]

Japan usually focus more on quality and reliability.. They skip the decorations.. But there are also high end japanese movement which are greatly decorated

[@matthewmeredith3138]

The point of this video wasn't to say which of the two is better, it was just to show two different movements..... Not everything has to be a competition.

[@MazdaRX7007]

The problem with your request, is that the japanese would make something much better for much cheaper.

[@c.san.8751]

@@matthewmeredith3138 No, but it usually is - human nature.

[@Carpenters_Canvas]

It’s really amazing how small all this stuff is and so precise

[@SimonsChannel]

"while Japan isn't necessarily known for its watchmaking" C A S I O

[@diogeneslantern18]

@@bodhisativaa Citizen, Miyota, Orient

[@MegaZidzid]

Q&Q

[@syedmohdfasihnaqvi155]

First quartz watch- Seiko First Digital watch - Casio First Spring drive movement - Grand Seiko First Kinetic movement - Seiko First solar watch- Seiko First Artificial Light Powered watch- Citizen ( Ecodrive) And they are saying Japan isn't known for watchmaking

[@UnburnableCow]

@@syedmohdfasihnaqvi155 Yes everyone who is into watches can recognise this but your average person on the street wouldn't. Stop being pretentious you bunch of snobs

[@syltkaka9816]

@@UnburnableCow they are not snobs, they were just pointing out and correcting an obviously false statement.

[@EMKWANREVIEWS]

This is awesome!

[@markjoseph5059]

Outstanding video of the tear downs with clear explanations.

[@j.j.k9349]

I took apart a watch once to fix a movement, and was so confused by all of the little pieces I couldn't put it back together. This is really a skilled trade.

[@drapsin89]

For me is interesting part is the level of precision manufacturing on those small pieces he kept pulling out. And also I'm wondering if those pieces are assembled by a watchmaker by hand or is it like a factory process where all of this is automated.

[@Dragonwar0]

To answer your 4 year old comment. By hand 😂

[@qassandraable]

I love this. My brother got into trouble for 'deconstructing' a watch. He was 5 at the time. I sent this right off to him.

[@TheDavemarz]

I took everything apart as a child. I even broke a car door once. And now I'm a mechanical engineer and I take things apart, fix them, rebuild them or design replacements and get payed for it. I feel that kind of curiosity should be encouraged.

[@coldanielleensaijp9465]

This is by far one of the best show when addressing watches: the inside works is the very heart of it. (Outstanding PR ) A must see for every: Swiss watch buyer

[@ianmacfarlane1241]

Absolutely fascinating. My uncle is (was - retired) a watchmaker for Watches of Switzerland - a high end proprietor of watches. I wish I'd considered it seriously when I was younger.

[@PHlophe]

Iain you can still do it. don't let your uncle's knowledge go to waste. you need to pick his brain

[@Ahcelaht]

Hamilton still makes watches, but in Switzerland. I have one and I love it!!! Great brand.

[@fiftyfive567]

Seiko was founded in 1877.... Rolex in 1905... Just to give the people some perspective on what the narrator considers "not being known for their watchmaking" talking about Japan...

[@lolcat23]

Vacheron constantin in 1755. Not throwing any shade on Japanese watches (love me some seiko). But the fact is Japan is not known for watchmaking, does not have a prominent history in watchmaking (compared the English, French or Swiss).

[@fiftyfive567]

@@lolcat23 Japanese watchmaking caused the biggest crisis for Swiss watchmakers in the history of their existence with the proliferation of quarz movements back in the days... That is quite some history, I would say. It would not be fair to reduce the Japanese watchmaking to that example, but it is the most obvious.

[@fiftyfive567]

@@lolcat23 the example of Rolex vs seiko was only to show the point that one of the most recognized watch brands by the non-enthusiasts + enthusiasts does not really have a lot more history then seiko. In fact there is only a hand full of manufacturers that are close to seiko...

[@fiftyfive567]

@@PyCoder82 is 141 years a lot of watchmaking history for a company? If you say it isn't, then you are right with the assumption that the Japanese don't have any... The comparison with Rolex was just to give some perspective so that people understand that there are well known Swiss brands that objectively don't offer more history...

[@justin.booth.]

I think he just meant that more people are familiar with Swiss watches, he was not commenting on quality. People associate watches/watchmaking more with Switzerland than Japan.

[@RickfromVancouver]

This is why like browsing through KZbin. I would never think of looking for this type of video, but I watched it right through and learned some things about mechanical watches.

[@TheBelse]

I love watches ...great description of internal parts. Thanks.

[@schmerol]

the swiss flag is square. kind regards, a swiss guy

[@tipsysmichigander6483]

If the issue is not sports and world-wide joy, but politics, then the Swiss flag is kept square, like outside the U.N. headquarters in New York and Geneva. Nepal and Switzerland are the only countries within the United Nations not showing the standard rectangular 2:3 flag but the original proportions.

[@Apoz]

@@tipsysmichigander6483 Don't call it a flag then?

[@georgejpg]

@@tipsysmichigander6483 There are plenty of flags that aren't 2:3.

[@tipsysmichigander6483]

@@georgejpg Yes, there are, I did not suggest there were not any.

[@DavidGonzalezSamudio]

With all the watchmaking money, you sure can afford the rest of the flag. BTW, what is it with the holes in the cheese, is it related? do you need some bank credit?

[@CNSZU]

This video should have added more commentary and analysis on the differences between the watches and how they tie in with the price difference. For example, how do the Swiss and Japanese come up with different solutions to the same problem and what are the pros and cons? Then, we could actually learn something useful.

[@CDankies]

We need more of these!

[@xxxxyyyxxxx584]

GS springdrive is objectively the best movement in existence at the moment

[@Sssthpok]

I'm a huge fan of Seiko chronographs.... I collect 6139 calibres, these were incredibly good value back in their day. Now wearing a Sport 5, and cannot overstate the value for money of these mechanical movements.... Swiss cannot touch these for price to quality ratio. BTW, your watchmaker should really not be breathing on the open movements ...

[@luchadorito]

Which 6139s do you have? I had my eyes on them for a while but the prices are skyrocketing

[@nocturnalmayhem0]

@@luchadorito the best value in 6139 are the yellow dials i got one for 550 the silver dials (more rare) are shootin over 1000 dollars now

[@luchadorito]

@@nocturnalmayhem0 Really? In my experience the cheap ones tend to be the 6139-6015s but that might be just my region

[@TimB33]

I'm just starting to collect 6139's. I'm planning on having ago at a service on one of the beaters in a week or two.

[@MrMegaTubs]

Have you ever had one apart to understand their "value for money"? Garish designs, hugely overpriced vintage market catering to Hodinkee Hipsters.

[@MordecaiWalfish]

It's like the most intense game of Operation ever, watching him pull those little parts out with tweezers.

[@Ahcelaht]

Hamilton is still around though, they just moved to Switzerland and are part of the Swatch group. It's one of my favorite brands, I have 3 of them and they're great!

[@TwoPunchMan492]

Loved this so much, i love watches and seeing this grows my appreciation for the craft

[@ATinyWaffle]

He cares about not getting finger oils on the components but he touched nearly every piece with his index finger with a big hole ripped in the latex protector.

[@em0_tion]

It's a demonstration, can you not complain and just appreciate what you witnessed? I'm sure he does a lot more stuff to such watches that he can't show us and we won't even comprehend. That was just the disassembly of 2 brand new watches, imagine repairing a broken and dirty old watch... Can't be perfect in everything, at least he is in what actually matters.

[@WESTSIDEBBB]

@@em0_tion Nobody is allowed to complain or comment on the broken finger condoms, got it. ATinyWaffle needs to relax, he's freaking out over nothing, right.

finger condoms*

[@flybeep1661]

@@WESTSIDEBBB Get lost with that stupid sarcasm snowflake.

[@bitfreakazoid]

It's a legitimate point. Not to mention only has them on the one hand, but at times uses his other hand to manipulate something.

[@diffendur]

This was really cool please do more episodes!!

[@WIRED]

This was actually the second episode in our series, [De]constructed. Here's the first, about a 1974 Harley Shovelhead: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZCcn4OHe7-BeK8 . Thanks for watching -- and commenting!

[@clray123]

We need a surgeon deconstructing a living patient.

[@wonkachocolates6133]

Fascinating to look at the precision parts inside of a watch...so very cool...!!!

[@Lukey.D]

8:51 That was like showing us watches' heart that still beats

[@wpherigo1]

Of course, Seiko automatics wind in both directions. I think most Miyota autos are only unidirectional.

[@adamsong8514]

6:41 " It's a yoke!!!" - Fernando Alonso

[@me-zb7qm]

Adam Song A YOKE!!!

[@logwind]

GP2 engine. GP2.

[@kronos1850]

This is the first chickEn,a bit of a long chickEn

[@sultanabran1]

what an idiot. hulkenburg was right.

[@pav4540]

Loved the part at 23:30, especially the "people will wear something that is a reflection of themselves, is how they express themselves, by the watches they choose

[@MrOliver1312]

It's amazing how reliable these things are with such tiny pieces

[@srikanthr.lakshmanrao1019]

Good education.. I liked it because I am a mechanical watch lover !!!! I love both Swiss and Japan

[@Nikioko]

Mechanical watches came back because modern computer-based production techniques made it possible to produce highly accurate parts for a resonable price. Up to the 70s, every cogwheel had to be either made by hand or by automatic production techniques with more specification tolerance resulting in less accurate watches.

[@m.clayton79]

Thank you KZbin for finally recommending a good vid and thank you watchmaker for the epic breakdown. I now am a fan of the art⌚️

[@kylestokes4501]

Autopsy of a Swiss Watch vs. Japanese Watch, and both served me very well for years. A Seiko 5 SNK789 vs. a Tissot Automatic. Both bought in Dubai, both loyal serving YEARS later. Pick your taste. My wife laid claim to the Seiko, and I busted the Tissot on an Engineering Job, both breathlessly amazing engineered watches... appreciate the workmanship of both, pick your heart, choose, and you can’t go wrong. A Walmart Timex in quartz movement is actually more dependable- these are for gentleman and ladies who appreciate complications and engineering, an art as well as a science. A Masterpiece on your arm, no matter the cost. Both are mentally overwhelming at the price. Enjoy your purchase, and the sweat, labor, and meticulous machining and hand design that went into making a modern marvel, both will serve you well, and has my total respect, admiration, and awe!

[@ve2zzz]

9:20 VERY important step skipped here: Release all of the mainspring tension before removing any of the gear train bridges. Preferably, remove the pallet bridge first (after releasing mainspring tension) to make sure absolutely no energy is left in the mainspring.

[@zszs22334455]

"While Japan isn't necessarily known for its watchmaking" You are the frog in the well that knows nothing of the great ocean. lol

[@JETBLACKPRIEST]

He isn't necessarily wrong, the average consumer would likely recognise Japan for their culture, pop culture, cars, etc etc before watch making, you kinda gotta be a watch guy to know about it

[@Ruminatee]

Aussie Viking II everyone knows what seiko is

[@JamesMinerTattoo]

Ruminate yeah but the swiss are world famous for luxury mechanicals. That was his point

[@benjaminschmidt3612]

@@Ruminatee Didn't know it was japanese. Just assumed it was a fancy name.

[@engeenir7440]

OK nerd

[@tornagawn]

Fantastic….interesting, fascinating, and it explains the odd stutter on my Miyota watch movement second hand….indirect drive. many thanks for this.

[@andysmith7903]

Great video, as a learning amateur I really learnt a lot. many thanks.

[@egonzalez4294]

Such mechanism does exactly the same and less accurately than a 1mm chip with a tiny quartz crystal, it's amazing how much we have progressed, watchmaking is an acient art in a way.

[@notaspy_3604]

Mechanical watches are still better

[@FirstNameLastName-kt3zn]

@@notaspy_3604 no they are not. A quartz watch is always more accurate

[@qanh96]

I read too quickly and thought the title said "Watchmaker Breaks Down Swiss Cheese". Oh well, this is interesting too.

[@janson2911]

I honestly finna watch a video with a title like that

[@ag8325]

We are watching this, let's be honest, we would watch that too

[@J69Nice]

Great video, you should do a breakdown/deconstructed video on quartz, solar quartz, kinetic, and spring drive movements.

[@nombinator]

I really like this video. I'do electronics as a hobby and I solder less than a millimeter components sometime. I appreciate the mastery of doing such small scale parts. If it would be me, I would be shaking all other the screen. Seing mechanical watches that way made me realize that they are much more than their prices. There are some much really fine precision parts, it is astonishing for metal parts. I also have a question. This tweezers seems gold plated. But what kind of tweezers should watch mainteners use ? I can think of non magnetic ones, ceramic ones, ... What is the kind you use ?

[@hades1127]

My Brain at 2AM: Why don't we watch someone deconstruct a watch Me: Perfect!!

[@Rejie7S248]

FYI: Music at the start is Sunset Drive by Future Joust.

[@divyanshuthakur]

You're the real MVP.

[@what0ever0lah]

thanks

[@Simplenetwks]

very cool video. learnt a lot. thanks for sharing. please continue to post videos like this.

[@spontaneousgroovincombusti2902]

What a wonderful peek at this amazing skill. Many of us are so passionate about wristwatches.

[@andrerouth4253]

Very nicely paced disassembly and commentary. The ETA seems like a better movement than the Miyota but the difference in price seems disproportionate. The lack of a hacking mechanism and the use of a plastic gear in the Miyota would move most discerning buyers towards the Swiss movement. Also, the ETA 2824 has 4 (or 5?) different accuracy grades (timing stability in multiple positions). How would you rate the two movements in terms of reliability, maintainability, and repairability?

[@dmac1259]

Yeah, he definitely made the swiss movement look better by choosing a lower tier japanese movement to compare it to.

[@fiftyfive567]

"while Japan isn't necessarily known for its watchmaking"??? Japan has a long and respectable history of watchmaking. Some of the Grand Seiko watches are outperforming luxury Swiss watches in terms of finishing, movements and price... In general I'm not a fan of this kind of generalizations "the Swiss" / "the Japanese"... The watches come at different price points and it is not made clear that we are looking at essentially two different aspirations here - making the Japanese look worse in comparison...

[@Raditram]

To normies, Watches are Swiss as much as chocolate are Belgian and coffee are Italian. You get the point.

[@daemonm95]

Yeah, but as he said THEY AREN'T NECESSARILY KNOWN FOR ITS WATCHMAKING, he isn't bashing on Japanese watchmaking, he's stating that Japan isn't known for exactly that like the Swiss which are. Everhything is becoming a problem now it seems.

[@fiftyfive567]

@@daemonm95 that is true... For the unexperienced consumer, Japan is not very well known as a watchmaking country. I was a little bit set off because I had the impression that he was advertising the Swiss (more expensive) model in comparison to the more affordable Japanese one

[@jort93z]

Well, but they aren't necessarially known for watchmaking, which they aren't. He didn't say they made bad watches, he just said they aren't known for it. trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=swiss%20watches,japanese%20watches this should prove that

[@ellescer]

t. weeb

[@ecrusch]

Really fascinating . Thank you.

[@DeKosta]

Such astounding engineering.. really fascinating. Who could put that thing together after disassembled like that?

[@suzyhilson7097]

Great video. There is a lot more to it compared with the sundial in my garden!

[@Raditram]

For the next episode I want "a Boeing 737 deconstructed". I don't care if it's only CAD drawings or be 40 hour long video.

[@planpitz4190]

Including the jet engines? blade by blade ? That will take more than 40 hours!

[@LingLing-ou6nt]

Amazing video, I knew there was a lot that goes into these watches but I never truly knew until watching this video.

[@digggert]

just recently dis- and reassembled a broken miyota 821a (adjustment of the spring length was broken). Was quite a fun time without any prior experience with that movement :D

[@ExopMan]

24:09 That watch is gonna be prego

[@350606]

Or is it the finger that gets preggo? Dun dun dun!

[@WPL410]

“The acids in your skin permanently etch into the plating and finish” Me: sees hole in finger cot...

[@JL-rd9bq]

Thank You for your video, learned a lot!

[@csabah.6251]

Fantastic video. Thanks for making it!