Knoxville man upset over bad paint job on classic car

[@fleetwin1]

You gotta be kidding me. Brought this classic to Maaco for painting. I have no words, at least none that can be said here

[@edwardmartinez9459]

I have one its stupid!

[@chriscarmeci399]

Exactly!

[@Mavis308]

That was his mistake

[@timsparks2862]

This guy is laugh-out-loud high school amateur

[@vincemajestyk9497]

It's funny from a distance I thought well, it doesn't look TOO bad. Then they showed the door lock and the pits in the roof pillar just painted over. And orange peel city too. Can't believe someone would actually take a car like that to a Maaco. He got what he deserved.

[@mwh3227]

He wanted a $10k paint job but brought it to Maaco? Insane!

[@johnkolinoff8591]

Right that's hilarious.

[@danloy3338]

He wanted a $10k paintjob for the price of $3500 lol

[@mhub3576]

More like $25k+ to do it 100% correct.

[@AlexKunstar]

He didn't know what he needed, just what he was willing to pay. 3500 wasn't gonna get everything done that needed done on that car.

[@71sixpak]

You can tell he's a cheap ass who probably complains about a free meal.

[@jeffharkson1920]

Maaco??? For a classic Caddy? Someone please arrest this man for his negligence 😂

[@sheendean4802]

Maaco is pretty well known to do shotty prep work (which is why they’re priced so cheap) I’d have to agree with you here… the issue is under the base, potentially the primer or perhaps even below that (remember he said it began bubbling in the same spots as before) to correct one must sand the affected areas down to bare metal, re-prime and begin the blending process which shouldn’t be that difficult as the paint is too new to have faded and this vehicle is likely garage kept. $7000 is what I’d charge for a badass black finish on this car, x4 clearcoat, maybe less depending on what dents he needed pulled, long story short is you get what you pay for in this case

[@ariebossley2509]

@@sheendean4802 Back in the 80;s they would paint anything one color for $99. Hand you a roll of tape and some paper so you could mask it yourself in the parking lot. This is NOT the place you take a classic car looking for quality work. lol

[@dntlss]

Ha ha ha

[@HunterB738]

Missed the point rookie 😂

[@warriorplutotrent3827]

Same thing when i first seen it. Maaco is budget lol $300 spray overs

[@joecap2919]

Maaco is to paint jobs, what McDonalds drive through is to fine dining😅

[@Upsidedownamericanflag]

Since this guy is a total buffoon, I would drive 2000 miles to get a decent paint job on a car like that

[@negativeindustrial]

Through*

[@MHal312]

Im dien of laughter

[@gizzyguzzi]

They spray more cars per day than any other shop. No reason they can't do a good job

[@timwalcott6268]

Very well put! 😂

[@ronyeahright9536]

Maaco for your classic car ?? Lmao. That's like going to Walmart to buy an engagement ring, and then having 7-Eleven cater the wedding.

[@richardmorris6365]

Don't give me any ideas! Lol

[@RolandoHernandez-z1r]

Don't Knock Walmart, She's Still Wearing The Ring 20 Years Later The Diamond Fell Off But She's Blind As A Bat , I Tell Her It Still Looks Beautiful On Her.

[@waynehoffman1791]

@@RolandoHernandez-z1r Well done my man!

[@richardmorris6365]

@@RolandoHernandez-z1r hit em with the complements,it's all good.

[@randallfrank5682]

@@richardmorris6365 FUNNY!!!

[@SOLDOZER]

The car was not stripped as the reporter claims. That would have cost over $3500 in labor alone. It was only stripped in certain areas to do minor bodywork and rock chips as you see on the receipt. You can clearly see in the photo the old lacquer paint is still on there. No modern urethane coatings are going to bond to that. It will always bubble and peel sooner or later no matter what you do or what primer you use. This is not a paint or Maaco issue. This is an issue of Cheap Chuck refusing to pay what it needs to be done properly and why Maaco ghosted him. IT HAS TO BE STRIPPED to bare metal.

[@themobseat]

Maaco should have told him modern poly paint won't stick to lacquer underneath.

[@tripac3392]

Exactly he got what he paid for, which wasn't much.

[@licha5050]

all bet no sealer over the old paint lol you can not paint over maaco paint its shit lol. 13 to 25k for a real paint job on that car

[@3Wheels1Block]

I agree 100% that car has to be stripped down to bare metal. It's how I do any classic.

[@jamescon55]

@@themobseat Polyurethane paint SHOULD stick to ANY prior kinda paint ( IF prepped correctly and EPOXY SEALED over it) but, yeah... You know good n well as I do, MAACO did NOT do that (HERE), obviously 😏 The guy is obviously expecting a $20k plus dollar body/paint job on a car that.... Simply does NOT have that kinda resale value 🤷 But yeah, I DID getta major "kick" watchin THIS one, while they say "the cost WAS TO STRIP THE PAINT FROM THE CAR" meanwhile? I'm seeing the progress pics of the basic "scuff paint, and body work treatment".... Lol. Yeah, like I said earlier in my original post. The prior estimator obviously DID NOT explain the F.A.C.T.S. of "how it REALLY works." Just promised another customer the world 🌎 and took his money, and he's LONG GONE NOW (from THAT location). I could write a book on ALL this kinda chyt from over 30 years experience in The Arts.... SMH

[@AndyF.525]

$ 3500 paint job from Marco you get what you pay for. A real paint job would cost more like $ 10,000 or more for a car that size .

[@albertchavez2693]

BINGO!

[@walterkersting9922]

Jay Leno said that it cost $20,000 to properly paint a car. That’s with no options. And he said that before Bidenomics.

[@AndyF.525]

@@walterkersting9922 don't believe everything Jay Leno says.

[@Lnmop123]

A real good paint job is more like $30k these days.

[@Lnmop123]

@@AndyF.525we don’t believe anything you say. I build custom cars in California. A real good paint job is about $30k all day long buddy

[@eugenerybalkin2005]

This is the best paint job Macco ever did probably.

[@gizzyguzzi]

@@eugenerybalkin2005 nope.

[@bobcortez9471]

The fact that this is news in this town means I want to live here, clearly this is a quiet, boring town.

[@BlairAir]

That has little of no classic car culture. When Maaco is the best option in town. Go to another town.

[@AmericanThunder]

Not bad for a city with a population close to 200,000.

[@zoetripp4243]

It had a head line for a mass shooting of 10 black peoples in a local supermarket

[@iVroomify]

Exactly why I like Knoxville

[@danslininger1315]

His first mistake was going to maaco and paying 3500 for a pint job that he EXPECTED to be a 20k show car paint job... what a tool.

[@lamarw7757]

Learn how to spell * paint, before insulting others.

[@danslininger1315]

Oh thanks so much professor!

[@buhketz]

I think he just expected at least a half decent paint job. God forbid a business gets called out for their almost scam-like practices

[@iraqifoodcart8447]

We have a customer like this RIGHT NOW with a C4 Corvette. Just like this Cadillac owner, he paid $5,000 at a Maaco shop and expected a $20,000 show car finish. Just like the owner of this Cadillac, he's a tool.

[@djdudekevin]

@@lamarw7757. It’s a mistake. Stop it. Bully

[@oldarkie3880]

A true car collector would never take a classic to this kind of body shop.

[@Martin944turbo]

100%

[@You_Know_The_Thing]

Not everyone lives in debt over a car. It's what he could afford. Plus, a Cadillac Fleetwood isn't a desired car to collect like others.

[@whoisjohngalt4880]

@@You_Know_The_Thing Then he should be content with the shitty fly-by-night paint job he got. If he’s not willing to spend the premium price for a perfect paint job then he has no reason to be on the news crying about it. Lol

[@jbb8382]

100%

[@ShortyLaVen]

​@You_Know_The_Thing are you really saying that a 1960 Cadillac isn't a collectable car????? That statement right there automatically disqualifies your opinions from having any amount of validity.

[@jaylove3487]

The only way to fix that is to remove all the paint right down to the metal. It’s a major job. Repainting it won’t fix it, the bubbles will simply come back.

[@brad3201]

I nearly busted out laughing when he said he took it to Macco. That’s the type of place you take your clapped ‘07 Honda Civic, not a classic car that you consider an “investment” 🤦‍♂️

[@rogeliovelasquez9094]

that is not a classic that is just an old cadillac.

[@brad3201]

⁠@@rogeliovelasquez9094With a Maco paint job it is most definitely just an old Cadillac instead of a classic 😂

[@lawanorderly1032]

I agree

[@rudysalas9138]

I have on 06 civic I took to Macao for an estimate, $800. Relax lol😂

[@davewilson7602]

Exactly it’s where I went to get a new bumper painted on a 2002 accord 😂😂😂 it was 15 years old at the time so “painted” was my expectation not painted properly

[@peterironrope]

You don't take a classic car to Maaco and receive a cheap paint job, but expect the car to look like it was a $8000 paint job!

[@You_Know_The_Thing]

You don't expect bubbles either. I'm sure if we're in the market for a Cadillac Fleetwood and the seller decides to dust a quick paint job to sell and you see bubbles forming months later after the purchase, I'm sure you'd be lookin at the seller for compensation or warranty information to get it fixed.

[@jessdigs]

Classic car paint jobs are closer to 20k now. At least in California

[@JeffThompson-mi7su]

Not really I bought a cheap truck with a terrible paint job and I'm not going to bother the owner lol when something is cheap it's cheap

[@steve8803]

@peterironrope So it's costs $8000 to get a paint job that doesn't have bubbles? How do you prevent the bubbles, and how many extra hours of prep work would that take?

[@yota8325]

​@@steve8803 going back to bare metal is the best way but that's very labor intensive to do correctly hence it would cost 10k+

[@kellysrestorations.7397]

As someone who has been in the restoration industry for 40 years, Thanks for the laugh!

[@1STLAR2147]

I’m laughing right along with you! I’ve been restoring and collecting mainly GTOs the past 40+ years. I remember painting my first endura bumper around 1984 on a 68 GTO and had to strip and repaint it about 6 times before I gave up and talked to an old painter Buddy of mine. He just laughed and showed me the correct method and ingredients. Flex agent? What’s that? LOL

[@pbmartinfencing]

Can you imagine someone taking a car like that to Maco and expecting a different result 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@claywilson6149]

Not American . Never heard of Maaco . I guess its a shitty autobody franchise ?

[@kellysrestorations.7397]

@@claywilson6149 It's like the Mc Donald's of autobody. Serves a purpose, just don't expect culinary excellence.

[@AnthraxBird]

Right? I'm a mechanic, and everyone should know Maaco is only for shitty paint-jobs that might look good for 5-10 years.. and by good I mean you're gonna have orange peel, bubbles, and cracks... but it'll still look better than complete trash! Really nice places charge 10's of thousands of dollars for this kind of work.

[@JoelRyanQuinn]

I bought a sandwich from Arby's the other day that wasn't very good. Maybe this news station can come do a full-length feature news story about it. "Local man not happy with purchase," hard-hitting stuff.

[@KOZYx]

😂😂 mannn

[@jojoglemond]

Very funny!

[@awwzyea_roadster]

As an automotive painter, the old paint was definitely not stripped.

[@claywilson6149]

Not an automotive painter and had that suspicion . Glad I ran into your comment 👍

[@_BAD_MERC_]

Old paint conflicting chemically with modern finishes. Doing this correctly would have tripled the price very easily.

[@bobbrinkerhoff3592]

You have to wonder how long the car sat in bare unsealed Bondo and primer ? Did they even bother to drain the water and oil separators coming off the air compressor ? The orange peel was caused by too much air pressure or having the gun too close to the car while spraying . And adding fish eye eliminator to the paint would've required extra effort .

[@teamidris]

The price reflects that. Bare metal re spray would be big money. It would take days to remove and refit the trim. Sill a shame they didn’t two-pack it and give it half a chance.

[@bobbrinkerhoff3592]

@@teamidris worst part about the trim is replacing any clips that get broken . An awful lot of them are not being reproduced.

[@JimV90]

I was so ready to sympathize for this guy, and then I heard he took his classic car to Maaco. If you are dumb enough to do that and not do basic homework on shops before getting your car painted, I can't really feel bad for you. He deserves what he got.

[@renetorres2057]

You are right If he goes to court The judge probably will make macco repaint his car then the Judge should draw something like this on the core order🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@aarontrenton1730]

Same with me. He got EXACTLY what he should have expected for a complete paint job for 3500.00

[@carlinshowalter1806]

It's a nice twenty footer,what you expect from MAACO?

[@Nikowalker007]

That’s like taking your gf or a wife to Taco Bell for proposal or anniversary and then complain on Yelp about the experience 😅

[@robertfrederick4714]

Same

[@markkoranjr6426]

Good work ain’t cheap and cheap work ain’t good. For $3500 he’s lucky Maaco painted the entire car 😂

[@rockandrolf8611]

😂😂😂😂😂👍🏼

[@blackbeansmatter1280]

Or even bothered masking any trim 😆

[@kennyoungss]

😁

[@Flexo3D]

He is lucky maaco didnt paint the whole car! lol. I had a friend in high school that had 72 chevy pickup painted at maaco. They painted the truck, windows, interior, and lights. The only thing they didnt paint was door jams.

[@0000song0000]

It looks decent enough 👌🤓 what else did he want? Even if he had taken it magically to another country, they would charge him a lot because, well it looked like trash before, all uneven... They would have to sand to metal and fill any holes, dings, etc... That job alone is very detailed and time consuming.... Probably worth the 5k alone (so they skipped it) 🤣

[@theunluckyfrog3316]

Dude got a touch up and full paint for 1/4 of what it would normally be, im not sure what he expected 😭

[@odom2142]

I’m surprised they agreed to redo their work even once. That was generous.

[@EricFortuneJr.]

I bet he takes it to Walmart for oil changes too. Classic car like that should go to a reputable independent shop who mostly does classic restoration. Also couldn’t help but notice the orange peel.

[@MikoWorldwide]

He’s so cheap, most rich people are.

[@DEATHWISHVQ]

That’s literally what the video is about lol

[@EricFortuneJr.]

@@DEATHWISHVQ They went on about the bubbles, but the orange peel is pretty bad too. Even without the air pockets and flaking it would still be a poor quality job.

[@DEATHWISHVQ]

@@EricFortuneJr. well it’s very clear the bubbles are the most eyesore noticeable thing.

[@jonsworld5307]

never go to normal shop i did and they put new cars infront of my car never painted my

[@Marine1111-p5x]

Seriously? They're gonna wonder why he got a bad paint job at Maaco? Maaco is known as the poor mans paint job. Its almost understood in the industry thats what you get and everyone understands thats what Maaco is for.

[@warped2875]

"I'll paint any car, any color, $29.95!", Earl Scheib

[@jaya.0069]

Earl Sheib painted my sisters 67 VW bug back in the 60's, she counted 367 runs in the paint. They even painted the door handles! 29.95

[@anthonynapier4668]

😃 good one man 👍 👍

[@Hazetruck]

I remember those commercials lol!!! Do you remember the mad Jack Fielden furniture commercials?

[@knickerbacher7910]

BLOW AND GO. Molding and all get painted

[@cellpat2686]

Was thinking about good ol' Earl. If he was still in business he would've taken the Caddy there.

[@petemcpeterson6205]

Funny story. My dad has a 56 Bel-Air which he stripped and did all the body work himself on. He took it to macco back in 1995 and had their premium urethane paint service done. He paid extra for extra coats of paint so he could cut and buff it himself. Long story short the car looks as good as it did almost 30 years ago today and people at the car shows cant believe that its a macco paint job. Its all about what's underneath the paint not necessarily who painted it !

[@Jeff-sp7bg]

You're right. Every Maaco is different. Some do fantastic work. Depends on the shop

[@MitchT-cj2hg]

My brother's girlfriend's dad's sister's husband's cousin did the same thing and the car looks better than the factory original 35 years ago so I believe you

[@incub8]

@@MitchT-cj2hg - Yeah. I know what you mean! My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with a girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. 😉

[@vi23100]

It was all in the prep work. Then he cut and polished. Credit to your dad!

[@petergriffin383]

My sister's boyfriend's brother's uncle's friend did the same thing

[@benzina5917]

Going to Maaco and thinking that $3500 is a top of the line paint job shows a TOTAL lack of knowledge. Materials alone for a car like this easily tops $5K let alone the hundreds of hours it takes for a collector quality paint job. The real number is closer to $20-30K assuming minimal metal work. Get into expansive rust repair and panel straightening and the price can easily top $100K. Whether or not the car is worth it the labor and materials are the same. Too many complain that a certain repair is worth more than the car well those people should either accept it or get a car that is worth more. Just a harsh dose of reality.

[@chriswelcome8102]

I used to work with a panel beater. Friend of his came in and I got to talking to him about his car. Said his dad bought it new and passed it down to him. $55k in bodywork alone and I don't know if that included painting. Thing looked absolutely amazing though

[@Bill-from-HR]

An actual restoration shop wouldn't even touch it unless you're ready to pay at least 20k.

[@thetoecutter13]

20k as a down payment before we'd even start where I used to work.

[@ChadAV69]

@@thetoecutter13 20k wouldn't even get you inside where I used to work.

[@neal6473]

For real 🤣🤣🤣👍💯.

[@wickedhouston5538]

i wipe myself with 20k

[@SAHM_94]

Wrong my husband paints show cars and he don't charge that much 💁🏼‍♀️

[@madmattsubieman9807]

That's his fault for taking it to Maaco. What in the hell was he thinking.

[@chrisborey1734]

Save Money. Get a cheap job and see cheap workmanship. You get what you paid for.

[@jonsworld5307]

maaco only good if you just want car to be 1 color not for classic restores

[@gerdruess9364]

He wasn't.

[@jonsworld5307]

@@gerdruess9364 to be fair i you cant paint car and have it last at less 5 years you need to be forced to close down as your doing nothing but scaming people or at less put on sign we cant really paint cars but we wil spray it so its all one color for year or 2

[@mhub3576]

Hey cut him some slack, the nearest Earl Scheib is over 100 miles away!

[@hauk65000]

Cooking.. Well-known blunder - and is caused by one of two reasons, or both. - The body is not completely dry after rinsing with water and before painting, there is still moisture in the primer. Which will of course swell up like bubbles in the paint later. - Collision between chemicals in the primer and the paint itself. Not compatible. Then you get bubbles anyway.

[@alangrant5684]

A $3,500 quote for a classic full body paint job was the big fat red flag he should have seen.

[@MikeBarbarossa]

That price included body work. Cheap, low end paint job A classic car has a lot of surface history, and needs painstaking professional specialized preperation

[@nothanks1673]

@@MikeBarbarossa should've been an even bigger red-flag, I doubt I could get a local paint shop to mask my windows only and spray a base/clear for $3.5k let alone any prep work or definitely body work. I just had a bumper replaced and painted to match on my old minivan, that alone was 2500.

[@Amputations]

thats what i was thinking that's some cheap ass labour .... my r34 had a boot damage from being rear ended and that almost cost about 3k alone for them to pull it out and some even quoted more , 3k was LOW... and i was a bit sus on that even because others were alot more

[@ectomorphnranger5165]

I paid 1k for mine.

[@samsaverino8159]

​​@@MikeBarbarossathe majority of people dont understand what goes into a quality paint job so they think it should be alot cheaper than it is. I didn't realize it myself until I started looking at videos of how to properly paint a car then I realized how much painstaking labor goes into it.

[@jrm88382]

As a painter of 20 years I will say this is a classic case of you get what you pay for......I was about to feel bad untill they said he brought it to maaco lol

[@staycurious3954]

😅

[@BigLeek-ig3sb]

I took my 787 Dreamliner to Maaco and months later all the paint fell off!!

[@thatmanina240brick4]

What a dink macco!!! This is like complaining that your $5 harbor freight ratchet broke...

[@robertmunoz7543]

Zactky!😳 Jman

[@licha5050]

hahahhaha good one

[@RFJersey]

It’s a 4 door parts car, he shouldn’t have even painted it.

[@licha5050]

@@RFJersey true he is a dip chit fer sure/// lol

[@jaya.0069]

@@RFJersey Go try to buy one restored, they go for big bucks. Even 4 door cars now!

[@troymingo8481]

This news team should do a story on my basement walls look bad

[@aerorider04]

You don’t get a classic car painted at Maaco. Their services are geared to modern cars and quick cheap paint jobs. A decent paint job on that Cadillac would cost in excess of $10k minimum. You get what you pay for, and as in any good quality work, preparation is crucial. Unless the car was completely stripped, the metalwork repaired properly and a high quality paint applied, what this man got is what to be expected. For $3500. He got a cheap paint job worth $3500

[@roasthunter]

What is the difference between painting a modern car and a classic? Why would it cost more to paint an old car? Actually would have thought it would be easier, less plastic to remove or mask, bigger overall panels with less fiddly details.

[@JohnDaker_singer]

It's a cheap paint job from Maaco. I don't know what this guy expects, but you get what you pay for.

[@johnhiggins3943]

That's a lot better job then I would have expected from Maaco to be honest

[@gerdruess9364]

I am surprised they did that well. Maaco is known for crapy work. The Owner is to blame nobody else.

[@0000song0000]

It looks good from afar! What else could one expect? Premium jobs go for premium prices

[@OnePointLander]

Bubbles aside, shocked myself as well

[@zonker2u808]

I once worked for a cut rate shop like this. In a good day, we'd run 12-14 cars through the line. Truth is, for an old beater of a car, truck, horse trailer, you really get your money's worth. But for a classic never go to a shop like this.

[@bikeman1x11]

exactly !!! maaco is fine for respray to freshen a car or weekend cruiser but not for a a classic restoration

[@Robert-bg2nm]

not for 3,500......thats a 600.00 hack job....lol

[@richdiscoveries]

You pay the cheapest prices, you get the cheapest materials, you still get what you pay for like you always have

[@mrwonderful2142]

His wife 🤣

[@DeezNuts-xz7hy]

3500 is not cheap ,,i know my friend who got her van painted very nicely for 2,800 bucks

[@henrykirk4457]

Her van isn't a Cadillac.

[@NNKH2]

For only 3500 I'd say that looks pretty darn good.

[@notchback93]

People are missing a important point it’s not the fact he went to macco that’s the problem! It’s that all the old paint bodywork from the 60s70s80s is causing the new paint not to adhere properly, most likely that car has a Lacquer paint from factory. Well a little fact about lacquer paint is that it keeps letting out fumes/gasses or also called VOCs so if you seal it off with new paint, doesn’t matter if its enamel or urethane it will trap in those gasses and since they can’t escape they will push the new material away from the surface, that car needs to be stripped to metal or close it. Then redone with modern chemicals. I and 2 other auto body guys I known will not touch a lacquer car unless you are putting lacquer back over it or going all the way down and redoing it.

[@kimemerson4608]

No. Marco is a joke

[@DS-xg9kf]

Interesting

[@neal6473]

Thank you for this information.

[@spooky9030]

Nice to know thanks.

[@ehlersjim12]

You detailed what almost all the comments are getting at. MAACO will not properly prep an old lacquer paint job for a modern paint for $3500. MAACO is not smart enough to let the customer know what you knew without even seeing the car.

[@jpjones5880]

You went to MAACO FOR A CLASSIC CAR AND ONLY SPENT 3500 FOR A MINIMUM 10K JOB?!?!? You deserve this

[@CoDeKill33r]

I'm a painter myself and was thinking someone was gunna get called out , and then they said "Maaco" and it clicked lmao. Yeaaah if you care about your car .. avoid that shop

[@dennisdinorcia7407]

I had my 1976 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible painted at my local Maaco and I was shocked at the quality of the paint. It was painted and clear coated for $1,500 dollars and you would think it was a $10,000 paint job. The manager was into old cars and he told me he took extra care in painting my car. I guess it depends on where you go and who is doing the job.

[@thebigpicture2032]

Sometimes you get lucky.

[@yota8325]

The painter would have done more than what he was paid to do definitely lucky and they would have lost money doing it

[@lestersmith493]

IT HAS TO BE STRIPPED TO EVER BE CORRECTED

[@Unknown_Ooh]

Lol not at maaco they just touch up over the paint they sprayed

[@Ian-of9oi]

I’m surprised a guy would take a car like that to Maaco.

[@SonnyGTA]

It’s almost a joke. Clueless dummy!

[@ivanc9087]

I remember this video and once in a while the algorithm blesses me with a rerun of the most important breaking news item of the century

[@cachesolo1534]

As soon as the video started and mentioned "Maaco", I slapped my forehead so hard that it's been red for nearly 40 minutes now.

[@SonnyGTA]

Hahaha ME TOO!! I said, imagine if they said Maaco!

[@BHOODXIII]

SAME. My eyes rolled back & I stopped the video.

[@notthatronjohnson1187]

Painted a old pick up truck in the backyard about 20 years ago with cans of spray enamel from the hardware store. Just washed it, taped everything up, and painted it. Only problem I had was my right index finger went numb and was hurting like hell. A few flies and leaves stuck on it but they eventually washed off. I was proud of it.

[@kr4t0sg.28]

Still a better job then maaco.

[@bodycounts1]

Well god damn RJ, you outta be right proud son!

[@freemansgarageextra]

@@USNVA-yn6cp Nothing better than when a roller job works out. I've done the exact same thing you did.

[@kingargon]

I had a 1932 Ford that I repainted with a two dollar paintbrush from hobby lobby and some blue food coloring. The only problem I had was my rectum fell out, but other than that it came out great!

[@notthatronjohnson1187]

​@@kingargon damn, that's a hell of a thing to have happened while painting. Were you just out of prison??

[@oldschool5560]

A sweet ride like that and you take it to maaco?? You get what you pay for I guess. $ 3500 for body work and a great paint job just ain't going happen in the 21st century.

[@jaya.0069]

Take it to a real paint shop not the clown show known as Maaco! You get what you pay for, and this guy got exactly what he paid for! Hard lesson to learn!

[@JakeStewart1343]

He can not afford.

[@scotthooper4170]

@@JakeStewart1343 I get it. Then be happy with what I got, and enjoy it.

[@carrolbrooks2143]

@@scotthooper4170 That's Not How Contract Law & Warrantees Work. Maaco Simply Should Have Told Him No, or Charged Him Appropriately On Their Estimate. This Is Most Likely Why The Former Owner Bailed!?!! You'd Be Surprised At Just How Many "Franchisees" Do This In Multiple Different Businesses!?!!

[@patientmental875]

Whats amazing is he thought he got a deal on a good paint job!

[@SonnyGTA]

@@patientmental875 he DID get a good deal for what he paid! That’s a $12,000 paint job at a regular body shop.

[@thejoshman3843]

the news people are as ignant as the owner, making a story into this. this is embarrassing for all involved parties.

[@RealLifeScenarios]

The owner of that car belongs in jail for taking a classic to Maaco for a paint job 💀

[@barsaf9989]

This is the same as taking your Lamborghini to an instant oil change. Come on dude, what are you thinking???

[@goofballbiscuits3647]

Getting a paint job on a classic from Maaco = ordering a cheeseburger and expecting a medium rare ribeye *_from McDonald's_*

[@B1FFCO]

You just repackaged someone elses joke😂come on now be more original

[@goofballbiscuits3647]

@@B1FFCO Do you know how hundredth monkey works? I was writing comments. You read them. Look up anachronism too.

[@Lawrence-lc7pu]

I wonder how that steak would taste?

[@goofballbiscuits3647]

@@Lawrence-lc7pu like broken dreams lol

[@rosewd2]

Looks pretty good for only 3500$ !!! Like i said a paint job especially with body work like that would be 15-20$ or more. Paint and supplied could easily exceed 2000$ pretty quickly. I see a lot of body work was needed on that car, too much filler on the panels, but what did he expect macco isnt a restoration shop. He paid 3500$, thats a steal!

[@rosewd2]

@port nut well for that amt of money they are not going to eet sand and buff it out, I really doubt they are using 800$ dv1 spray guns at macco lol

[@scotthooper4170]

I don’t know about it being a steal. But as a professional you know, while the quality of the paint, & the skill of the painter are important. The prep work is paramount. Otherwise, is like putting lipstick on a pig.

[@SonnyGTA]

Are you from another planet? Why are you putting the dollar sign AFTER the number?? Here, on Earth, it goes in front. $3500. Like that. 🤦‍♀️

[@rosewd2]

@@SonnyGTA macco gives you a discount for putting the $ sign last lol

[@petrfun898]

This news is so motivational. It change my life completely

[@rond5661]

This is laughable!! If you want a quality paint job on a classic car you certainly don't take it to Maaco.

[@Dogleg1957]

In the 70s earl shield paint for $29.95 what we did was strip and do all body work and tape off car.then up grade to hi gloss paint... every paint job was excellent. Flipped 9 cars in HS doing that. 3500 fot body work is cheap today

[@paulhawkman6159]

Holy orange peel Batman!!! Looks like they spent a lot of time sanding around that key lock, looks really good.

[@cameracamera1319]

Lol. Troll. Lol

[@OfficialStumpMan]

That’s like going to your cousins house to get a tattoo because he’s cheaper than going to shop.

[@tomgrzywacz6135]

And your cousin is blind...

[@rickr442]

And can’t spell.

[@sergioruiz5218]

and has a busted shoulder.

[@DSC800]

I had a Maaco paint job done in the 80's. It was around $150 bucks back then. Sure enough, a couple years later it was flaking off. I didn't expect much though and it was probably worth what I paid just to make the old Datsun presentable.

[@jaya.0069]

My sister had her VW bug painted at Earl Scheib 29.99 special back in the 60's, she counted 367 runs in the paint, and they even painted the door handles!

[@DSC800]

@@jaya.0069 haha, forgot about Earl Scheib. I can hear his commercial in my head "I will paint any car for just $29.95". Painted the door handles for no extra charge, that's great.

[@jamescon55]

A couple years later? .. Lol. Yeah, you still got your 150 dollars worth, bud..BACK THEN EVEN 👍

[@jamescon55]

@@jaya.0069 😳 367 runs in the paint? On a small beetle at THAT?...HOW in TH IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE??? 😆 LOL...And I thought I RUINED an 85 Ford Ranger I painted with PPG Starthane (ya know Polyurethane AND Enamel paint they had in the 90s?) as I 2nd coated it too quickly, and ended up with about 7-8 runs/sags in that GORGEOUS '66 Chevy Madeira Maroon poly metallic paint I used on it. (Was intended for a Chevelle I HAD but, anyways). But maan! Was THAT SOB SHIIIINNNNEEE! ... 😂 LOL

[@nancymcdade3909]

@@jaya.0069 lol! My sister had a VW beetle too in 1969! An Earl Schieb paint job changed it from navy blue to hot pink! Oversized flower stickers on the front hood and she was "groovy"! 😁

[@TheSaturnV]

He couldn't find any Earl Scheib shops still open?

[@Silveradoman61]

I remember when I was a teen back in the 70's. Walked outside one morning and saw my neighbor painting his car with a paint brush and 3 gallons of flat white house paint. Lol it looked pretty good from 10 feet away. 😂😂😂

[@kennyoungss]

🤣😂😁😆

[@redskinfaithful]

Haha I have a similar memory

[@AlexKunstar]

I used to paint houses with someone, and his work van had a bunch of rust between his door and running boards. So scraped off the rust, put some rubber molding on with some adhesive caulking, then we painted it white with our trim paint lol. Not our proudest moment, but it held up fine for years until it was time to scrap the whole van 😆 do not do it on anything other than a beater work vehicle.

[@markreiber4457]

People did some crazy stuff back in the 70s lol but we had alot of fun doing it

[@TOBYH]

@@AlexKunstar MY BEST FRIEND AND I PAINTED HIS 40 PLYMOUTH WITH PAINT BRUSHES AND USED BOAT ENAMEL, IT WAS A GOOD 15 FOOTER, LOOKED AS GOOD AS THIS JOB DID AND NOT EVEN 1 AIR BUBBLE! WE WERE 17 AND HE HAD NO MONEY, WE GOT OUR MONEYS WORTH, THE WHOLE JOB COST HIM ABOUT 25 BUCKS. He really got his $ worth, we worked on it straight for about 24 hours.

[@kingrexmma4387]

That is a killer paint job for 3500 bucks. It’s not a show car. If you want a show car paint job expect to pay 3-4x that amount. This dude has a beautiful looking driver there and in my opinion for 3,500 he got a deal

[@nunya2814]

Killer? The orange peel alone is atrocious.

[@txmade4371]

Take it to Mexican shop, they have some of the best paint on lowriders.

[@Boingy]

I agree.. the paint is bad but considering what he paid it looks fine

[@blakesejarma]

For a show paint job it’s at least 10x that. Glass out, engine out trim off. It’s hundreds of hours of labor alone

[@d4z_l20svaQ12]

the peel will probably buff out and the bubbles is employee error

[@Crazson34]

This is why I paint my own cars and have for years. Body prep is everything and compatible materials is a must!

[@koniko169]

Lol after seeing like 2 youtube videos on it im ready to paint my cargo van. Currently it has a ton of damage from previous owners vinyl wrap. Melted weather stripping on windshield. Chisel marks going down to the metal all along edges of the car. Absolutely cracked and extemely chipped hood. Literally spray painting it with mailbox paint would make it look better. Lol anyways back to my question for you. Im not wanting a clear coat that will faill in a year or 2. I also dont think i need a 10 year clear coat. What is a solid clear coat to use that will leave a good finish and is cost effective. Or is the gap between mid quality and high quality small enough that it would be worth it to get the best clear coat. From the vides ive seen the people are usually saying “im using this because i have it on hand but i do t recommend using this clear coat as it lays down like crap and has other issues”

[@vox1966]

I do my painting myself on a classic car they charge 10,000 plus . I take pride in my prep work

[@alfavulcan4518]

Bingo! Minor Body work and paint isn’t rocket science, just a lot of work. Over the years I’ve gotten better, but there is a reason top paint jobs cost so much and that is many, many hours of prep labor. The paint is just the icing on the cake

[@Crazson34]

@@alfavulcan4518 Absolutely! Hours of prep is where the quality shows.

[@Crazson34]

@@koniko169 The main thing is to make sure ALL of your materials are compatible. I always use a 2 stage urethane paint job. It's mid range but I've shot some that looked show quality. Hours and hours of prep work is key and always shoot a guide coat to find minor flaws. It's tedious but sooo worth it.

[@cawa2576]

I didn't know Macco still existed 😅 . Back in the day there was another company that was just as bad called Earl Sheib that would paint 🎨 your car for around a 100 bucks. They also painted your glass and chrome with over spray . So you get what you pay for.

[@Loulovesspeed]

"Where the paint has "went" on there." That speaks volumes of this guy's intelligence. He got what he paid for! $3,500 for stripping, sheet metal work, priming and repainting? Hello? Anybody home there? Surely not! You man are a true Chuckle head!

[@hillbillybeerdranker6678]

I've been painting cars for years and this is caused by them not degreasing the car. On the original paint job they probably didn't wipe the car down with wax and grease remover, and sanded some oil into the old paint. When you spray paint over an oily spot, it won't stick and will bubble up.

[@arymonem]

Good point.

[@Terryg1968]

I thought that would cause "fish eyes" not bubbling.

[@04dram04]

The original paint is chemically conflicting with the new paint

[@lylejohnston4125]

But, it won't squeak, either.

[@aamantium1]

There are a few other possibilities though. One of the big ones is, not letting their filler and/or primer cure enough, so its releasing solvents underneath a dried surface. The other one that comes to mind is, getting body filler wet through wet sanding or washing or whatever.

[@bruceallen2736]

I did my automotive paint apprenticeship at Maaco in Burnaby, BC, in the late 70”s. I would paint 10 completes and 2 spot repairs a day for 2 years straight. When I got my papers I quit and went to a more quality type shop. Maaco is for beaters. But boy could I lay down a nice acrylic enamel! Good luck with that Caddy Cheapo, cause its got to be stripped to bare metal! Your Chauffuer, J Bruce, Hollywood North 🇨🇦

[@600jccbrrr]

Why would you take it to Maaco?

[@rickdee67]

Cause he’s a cheapskate

[@imonaroll9502]

I painted my truck in TJ for $700 bucks paint isn’t perfect but hasn’t faded in 4 years and I have 3 small bubbles. I’m ok with it.

[@glennspears839]

I couldn't afford to get my old 79 Pontiac formula 400 painted.....25 years ago. On the way to work one day I noticed several old tractors that looked good for their age. I thought about it. I bought a gallon of Massey Ferguson Red , thinner and a couple rolls of tape. Some old newspaper . The car still looks great. It's a daily driver spring to fall. Best $50 I ever spent. That was 25 years ago.......

[@nickholbrook2285]

Never go to that kind of shop. A correct paint job for that kind of car would be at least $10,000.00.

[@GHOST117HALOBOYCOD]

Never go to that kind of shop if you want a show car if you want your old shit box to look presentable there good enough for that

[@Coodeville]

First thing I said to myself was that this car was not taken down to the metal. I take all my cars down to there so I know what I'll be working on. I just stripped a '71 Mark III and if I charged myself for that alone it would have been 7500 bucks.

[@SOLDOZER]

You can see on the receipt it was not stripped. Only had minor dings and rock chips repaired. You can see in the photo the old lacquer paint is still on there. NOTHING is going to bond to that. It has to be stripped to bare metal. I refuse any paint job pre 1995 who refuse to have it striped for this very reason. This is how it will end up.

[@MidnightinSavannah]

@@SOLDOZER exactly. that lacquer has to be taken all the way off.

[@TheEnergizer1965]

Damn shame all the orange peel and blisters, he should have known better, Maaco has had a horrible reputation for the last 40+ years.

[@trent12363]

I got my mustang painted at maaco but I sanded it to bare metal myself and did all the body work. I paid 1300$ for them to paint it and while there were some runs and orange peel, there was absolutely no bubbling or paint coming off. The orange peel and runs can be polished out. Lasted for 3 years fine until it got vandalized and the whole car had to be repainted again

[@maynardcat]

Many years ago Maaco was considered poor quality and a cheap place to have a paint job, but I did it anyway. The car was a 1971 Cutlass, everwhere I went for service they couldn't resist commenting what a lousy paint job. Well it all ended when I washed it off in sheets at the car wash a year later. I then had a quality body shop do it

[@68pongto]

I own a restoration shop, for $3500 I would not even be able to strip the car to bare metal. In the photos, it was not stripped, that is why there are paint issues. The old paint is a bad foundation, just like you would never build a house on a bad foundation, you should never paint over an old substrate. To do that car right it should be more like $35,000, not $3,500! The man got EXACTLY what he paid for, GARBAGE!

[@dmjsra04]

35000 for a paint job?!

[@68pongto]

@@dmjsra04 Obviously you can't read! Maaco just painted over the old junk paint, that is why there are problems. $35K includes stripping all the old material, properly removing all the trim and reinstalling, fixing all the dents and rust, and putting quality fillers and primers on the car to make it arrow straight. You do all that so that you don't have paint issues. None of this did Maaco do. Plus, sanding and buffing the car to a mirror finish, so yes, $35K! You sir, live in a dream world!

[@dmjsra04]

@@68pongto I’m living in a dream world and you’re charging 35k for that. Get real. Lol.

[@chuckbroso]

What did that guy expect from a name brand that is well-known for its substandard work and shady practices? With a car like that, he cheaped out big time where he shouldn't.

[@Daddy-ck7lb]

35k for a paint job? That’s absolutely ridiculous even for a perfect paint job you are not paying anywhere near that at a good shop. You can restore a whole car from the ground up for 35k 😂

[@jerryfacts9749]

Known as osmotic blistering, bubbles are the result of moisture entering the paint. During application, droplets get trapped inside or below the paint's surface. The moisture then migrates to the surface, where it emerges and releases. The result resembles a bubble or blister that visually mars the paint job. If conditions are not proper for the paint application there can be bubbles, cracking, and peeling.

[@stephentresca3536]

First off a four door? Those bubbles are from rust and moisture behind the metal. I know, I do half ass body work on my old van. I get bubbles all the time😅

[@C_HILL_OUT]

Who the heck in their right mind would take any car, let alone a classic, to MAACO.

[@JeffinTD]

A friend of mine just had a classic vehicle painted and it turned out beautiful, but it was more like $12,000.

[@falcon4548]

Bout right

[@wesoblander3648]

A fair price, if done right.

[@JeffinTD]

Yeah, I know just enough about painting a car to realize a whole lot of hours went into painting it right, done by someone who possesses skills and knowledge and did a lot of hard work…

[@ThePerfectSeason1972]

Many are misunderstanding or missing the main point, that in all likelihood, that Cadillac had a lot of surface rust all inside the panels of the car. Rust is like cancer, if it’s not cut out and metal replaced, it will resurface eventually because rust retains moisture. A lot of National chain body shops won’t repair classic cars, very time consuming. Moreover, as some have duly noted, 85 to 90% of the work in painting, is in preparation. If there’s rust between a trunk lid, a hood lid, door panel, underneath etc, eventually that rust will find its way through the metal and paint. Older vehicles, such as this , had many issues with the collection of water, because water drainage wasn’t as good as the newer cars are today , because the drain holes block up and would become clogged with leaves ,dirt and water, up underneath doors, panels, border, panels, and rockers, back then the metal was never prepped very well. They would rust overtime, and once that rust starts to blister like that, it just keeps growing, unless you cut the metal out and then treat it. Also, nothing last forever, the guy didn’t want a new vehicle. He just wanted to paint job. And that’s basically what he got, overtime. The rust will pull in moisture again and the paint will start to bubble up blister and peel like it showing. The problem is with rust. It’s an organism that eats away. Without seeing the vehicle and it’s original condition first, it may have been in need of a complete frame off restoration, the tell tale signs would be the rocker panels, the door panels, the trunk compartment, and the floorboards of the vehicle, if those are rusted out, in my opinion, they are not worth restoring because you will get yourself upside down really quick on a vehicle. This job is probably best left to a hob/enthusiast who is prepared to take the time and the years to properly restore a vehicle methodically. An owner would have to be in love with a vehicle to restore to this sort of condition and it is probably more than $30,000-$40,000 range. Also vehicles that lived in northern upper state that use salt on the road for snow and such, even newer vehicle metals will rust like a sieve and are not even worth repairing. My advice is to purchase a car that came from a desert area like California Las Vegas or Phoenix.

[@markbrandon7359]

I had a friend who did body work at Maaco they pay 40% commission, he said that the work order he got might say $500 when the customer actually paid $800, He managed to snag an unused work order from the office it has several copies with carbon paper in between, Funny thing is the section where body labor goes there's no ink on the carbon paper so they can write any amount they want later.

[@jamie-r2034]

A good, full paint job with body work is typically at least $10,000 at the shop where I'm at. We do however take off fenders, take out glass, etc, etc. You pay for what you get when it comes to this

[@steveyoerger7989]

Just so y’all know: that could’ve EASILY been a one hundred thousand dollar restoration (because you have to dig out 60 yrs of bad repair- thereby exposing TENS of thousands of additional repairs needed to even get the twenty foot long beast back to even getting close to being able to apply that ‘paint job’ you were after) 😊

[@douglasharvey8331]

So right my friend

[@ScaryClown338]

Your delusional, you can paint a hundred cars for that price. I payed $600 to paint an entire car and got zero bubbles, cracking or anything.

[@clintster1999]

You went to Maaco, wasn’t Earl Schieb not available?

[@mauricesiwiak5574]

maaco is the fast food restaurant of body shops. you can't buy a fish sandwich from McDonald's and have it taste like lobster. just like u can't pay a few grand for a maaco paint job and expect 20k results.

[@baysideauto]

Bwaaaaaaaaa as soon as I seen Maaco I was like really dude. First off $3500 to fix and repaint all over is a joke. You get what you pay for. I'm sorry this guy was looking for the cheapest way to go to get his classic redone.

[@ryannichols8315]

He should have told them when they asked if it's peeling, yes. Because those are not bubbles or blisters. That's peeling paint, that just hasn't cracked yet. Likely because of the strength of the clear coat being fresh. But bubbles are in the paint, not underneath the paint. When the paint loses adhesion, that's peeling paint. So under the companies own words on their policy, this should be covered. And I agree with many comments. Maaco isn't a place for fine paint jobs. You have to expect some imperfections and less quality work and material. It would be better money spent, taking the car to a painter who does side work out of his garage. Because many of these guys are good painters, looking to make extra money or start up their own paint shop. And they will often charge 3 to 4k for a paint job. And it will be great quality. Paint jobs do run 8 to 12k even as much as 20k for a large car like that in a good established paint shop. But nobody wants to pay that. And when they pay 3500 for what many shops charge 8k for. How can you expect perfection? You either pay a shop a low price. Which means they only make money getting jobs in and out quickly. Which means imperfect job. That extra 5 or 8k you pay at other shops. Is for the higher quality materials. The more experienced painter. And for your vehicle to be in their shop 3 or 4 more days, for r and I. And to prep correctly, mask up correctly, and to sand and polish correctly. Maaco probably have your vehicle 1 week or 10 days. When it should be in shop 21 days. And that's why 10k.

[@jamesdisney9150]

As soon as I seen Maaco on the building I could not stop laughing this guy would’ve spent way more than that just paying for the paint color and second there’s something else going on with his car it’s called it ain’t sticking 😂

[@flycatchful]

I had the roof redone on my 2002 Mercedes SLK 320 because of clear coat failure. I went to three local body shops and they all wanted more than 1K. My neighbor knew an independent painter who did it for 300 hundred dollars. The job he did was excellent.

[@jaz313det]

That paint job looks absolutely great for what he paid.

[@ncurc9766]

I thought the same, some people are so ignorant its unbelievable, a "professional" paint job for a classic caddy like that could be 30+ grand, this guy doesnt have a clue

[@Schlipperschlopper]

In Europe you pay 20 grand for such a paint job!

[@RT-tn4ry]

Time for an eye doctor.

[@SonnyGTA]

@@RT-tn4ry can you do a better job for $3500? Of course not, you dope.

[@RT-tn4ry]

@@SonnyGTA I absolutely could do a better job , high as a kite too.

[@BCNeil]

Is this a troll? Maaco is where you take things like an 8 year old Sentra that got a parking lot scrape. There are shops that specialize in classics and exotics.

[@CarswithNash]

Looks like he got what he paid for. Actually that is a huge car, having to paint it twice, they for sure went in the red just buying materials. No way they stripped it, they probably went over the old lacquer and that's why it's bubbling.

[@chriswelcome8102]

After working with a panel beater for several years I picked up a few things. I know a lot of people are ripping Maaco, but I have no idea who they are. One thing I remember is an old car coming into the workshop and I commented on the paint and bodywork. He said "Yeah, that's just what you see on the surface. You strip that back and you'll find loads of rust especially on the doors" and it stuck with me. Every old car we had sandblasted had holes especially on the doors. I have a feeling this guy may have be quoted higher and didn't want to pay it, so he went with a cheaper option. The amount of people who came to my mate to get a job done that were quoted a price always complained. They don't know how much work goes into a proper respray. This is what happens when you pick a cheaper option expecting show room quality. $3,500 USD? Ridiculous. $12,500-15,000 more likely

[@gabriel.954]

I actually thought that Maaco paint job looked really good! Easily 10k + to paint that car at a restoration shop. Now, if he paid Maaco 10k that's a different story. But when he said $3500....

[@howie32768]

I was feeling bad for him too. But then I saw the Maaco sign and thought uh-oh, what was he thinking? No way you take any car for a complete paint job to Maaco that you plan on keeping. I wouldn't even take a daily driver to Maaco. They simply didn't do the prep work correctly or possibly painted it in bad environment (for painting).

[@bradclark2179]

Not all Maaco shops are equal. It comes down to the level of experience and attention to detail of the individuals doing the work. I had my classic car painted (complete job) at Maaco six years ago and it still looks great.

[@ron2280]

How is this news?

[@adrianrowden8266]

It's a consumer complaint programme...

[@shaneintegra]

Its insane Macco is still in business. Its known country wide as the worst paint shop you could ever take your car to

[@hoobsgarage]

I bet they're doing great, in this economy people are wanting to hang onto their older cars longer and macco is the perfect cheap "better than it was" option.

[@FordRangerClassics]

Most American institutions seem to fall completely into this category...

[@outkast187]

They are a great company actually. They can do perfectly fine work, its not for a car lover though...they paint cars. Dont expect miracles for $500

[@FordRangerClassics]

@@outkast187 I feel like your definition of fine work is what's at stake here

[@michaelwurm5288]

It’s Maaco. There are no words. The owner is a clown. $3500 for a new paint shop is a red flag