Water Kefir Second Fermentation

[@The-eo4lj]

Could I leave a few grains in the 2nd ferment to have it ferment quicker? Like a day instead of 2-3 days? So for example: Do first ferment, take that liquid and a small portion of newly grown/created grains to make a 2nd ferment with some fruit, that ferments in about a day and I drink it, meanwhile the first grains from first ferment I just refill back with water and sugar?

[@nwfermentsinc.getfermented2494]

I don’t see why as long as you have enough grains to spare!

[@Hangchilly]

"We all need to let off a little gas sometimes" - favourite line :P

[@nwfermentsinc.getfermented2494]

You know it!😜🤗

[@mechanicalmonkey7777]

Great video! How,much should you drink daily? I know a 12oz bottle of store bought milk kefir has like 6 servings per container

[@jingbanduch3084]

Hi. Totally newbie to water kefir here. I started the first fermentation today. For the 2nd fermentation could I add home made elderflower cordial? If yes how much cordial per 1L of kefir water pls? Many thanks in advance 😊

[@nwfermentsinc.getfermented2494]

Jing Banduch hi! Sorry for the late response! Yes, elderflower would be great! It really is to your taste for flavoring. For a liter I’d say 1/2 cup or so. You can increase the next time if it’s not enough.😊

[@tlvreality9200]

Hello Mam , What are the fruits can use for cafir ? Is citric fruits can use ? Which Sugar can use ? Natural sugar or white sugar which one is best ? Plz suggest I am from India Thanks

[@nwfermentsinc.getfermented2494]

Hi- only use fruit in your secondary ferment, after grains are removed. Citrus is great for flavor, and any other fruit combination you like. We use organic evaporated cane sugar, blond in color. You can supplement with darker sugars or molasses if your grains need extra minerals.

[@tlvreality9200]

@@nwfermentsinc.getfermented2494 Thanks for u r quick response and replay have a great day

[@BadgerBabyBoy]

Do I need to save some unflavoured water Keffer as a starter for my next batch like the way you do with Kombucha?

[@nwfermentsinc.getfermented2494]

No you do not have to but, back slopping can make the fermentation go faster possibly.

[@BadgerBabyBoy]

@@nwfermentsinc.getfermented2494 do I need cane sugar for water kefir second ferment or can I just use fruit?

[@nwfermentsinc.getfermented2494]

@@BadgerBabyBoy Just fruit no need for added sugar.

[@yvonnec8362]

Do you remove the fruits after 1-2 days before putting in the fridge?

[@nwfermentsinc.getfermented2494]

Yvonne C You can. Depending on the fruit and how much flavor you want. Sometimes it's less messy to go ahead and remove it after the 2 fermentation. Personal preference. Cheers!

[@raskolnikov6666]

I kinda get drunk with my Kefir, I have done pineapple juice, cranberry, and orange. I always get drunk

[@nwfermentsinc.getfermented2494]

Raskolnikov666 the kefir does have a trace amount of alcohol, which can increase with second fermentation. Be careful if you’re sensitive to alcohol!

[@KP-ej7gc]

Hi, I accidentally let my keifer grains activate for seven days. Are they still good to use for second fermentation?

[@yowgyrl]

Anyone know if 2 days is the maximum to ferment it, or can I go longer?

[@nwfermentsinc.getfermented2494]

YOW Gyrl you can let it go longer- but the flavor will get less sweet & more alcohol- tasting the longer it goes. It can also run a greater risk of exploding over time, so be careful!

[@mechanicalmonkey7777]

@@nwfermentsinc.getfermented2494 is it safer to cover top with cheese cloth instead or a nut bag ? I see some direct to do that instead they use the metal ring of the mason jar without the metal middle part and they screw the ring around a nut bag or cheese cloth after placed over the jar

[@lolam.9291]

OMG!! How much sugar do you go through?

[@nwfermentsinc.getfermented2494]

We actually go through quite a bit growing water kefir and kombucha. No way around it, gotta feed those babies!😉💚

[@travelbees6049]

I am using coconut water on 2nd fermentation. It had alcohol.. How can I make it without?

[@nwfermentsinc.getfermented2494]

Travel Bees water kefir can have a trace amount of alcohol (about .5%) after just the first fermentation. Second fermentation can increase the alcohol, depending on the sugar content of what you add (coconut water isn’t terribly high). Half a percent isn’t a lot, but something to watch out for if have sensitivity or allergy to alcohol. Sticking with just a first ferment can help keep the content lower. You can just mix it with your coconut water but don’t second ferment. This will flavor it while diluting any alcohol that may be there, and won’t increase it. Hope this helps!😊

[@travelbees6049]

@@nwfermentsinc.getfermented2494 May I know if I can simple use coconut water for 1st fermentation then? I like it fizzy, can I close the lid tight on 1st fermentation?

[@nwfermentsinc.getfermented2494]

Travel Bees don’t use a closed lid for first fermentation- the grains need to breathe. If you want to use coconut water for first fermentation, it can deteriorate your grains over time. We recommend you only do that if you have excess grains that you can spare.

[@travelbees6049]

@@nwfermentsinc.getfermented2494 thank you so much for your advice 🙏

[@washingtonfootballfanwgil8392]

what is the sugar content of the finished product?

[@nwfermentsinc.getfermented2494]

Redskins Pride WGIL 2 grams per 8 oz generally the sugars are converted

[@raskolnikov6666]

depends on how many days you let it sit at 2nd fermentation. I usually go between 2 or 3 plus the time in the fridge which I think it stops the fermentation due to the temperature. So you can try it, if it's too sweet do 1 more day etc.

[@lololollaughatlife1431]

So I take it that you rebottle and filter the finished product? I do the 2nd fermentation in 16 oz bottle but am having issues with floaters and debris in my drinks. However I don’t want to loose my carbonation. What do u recommend

[@nwfermentsinc.getfermented2494]

Nadine Hamburg hoping my other response answers both questions! Let us know if not- also, end sugar content of water kefir after fermentation is about 2g per 8 oz BEFORE second fermentation. It can increase depending on what you add.

[@dcoco3957]

What can I do to make it taste less “ vinegary”?

[@nwfermentsinc.getfermented2494]

If you water kefir is a little too vinegary, you can try fermenting it a little quicker. We recommend changing into fresh sugar water every other day. Taste it after one day or day & 1/2. You can drink it when the taste is to your liking. Ferments longer than 2 days will definitely become stronger tasting. Same with a second fermentation, longer than a couple days will become more vinegary.

[@dcoco3957]

So could I do this: ferment for half a day to a full day and then if I want a little fizz do a second fermentation for a day or two? Would that work so its not too vinegary but still has some fizz?

[@nwfermentsinc.getfermented2494]

@@dcoco3957 Id let it go at least a day so it has enough time to ferment & convert the sugar. Then do the second ferment & see how it tastes

[@findingeden2011]

I’ve read other comments here saying they get drunk. How do I prevent alcohol production? Is this not kid safe then? I got starter grains so I could make this for my kids but now I’m reconsidering. Help!

[@nwfermentsinc.getfermented2494]

Kimberlee Leix hi! The alcohol content is pretty minimal after the first fermentation- .5 (one half) percent. Not really enough to affect you unless there’s an allergy to alcohol. Where the alcohol content can increase is when you add additional fruit or flavoring in a second ferment. Still not really high enough to get drunk. If there’s a concern, don’t do any second fermentation that adds additional sugar. This is when the content can increase. You can also dilute your finished kefir right before drinking with water or juice. We feel it’s pretty safe, but everyone has a different comfort level. Hope this helps!😊

[@findingeden2011]

So instead of adding let’s say grape juice and doing a second ferment, id just add grape juice and drink immediately and just wouldn’t get the fizz factor?

[@nwfermentsinc.getfermented2494]

Kimberlee Leix yes, don’t do a second ferment with it to avoid additional alcohol.

[@keinohrtini]

do you have to add sugar to a lemon-ginger water Kefir bc there is no sugar in the fruits?

[@nwfermentsinc.getfermented2494]

Actually I was very surprised I didn't need to add sugar with the ginger or lemon! It was delicious just on its own!

[@loladelvalle7937]

Hi when we do the second fermentation adding fruits when ready to put in the refrigerator should we take the fruit out or leave it ? and eat the fruit too?

[@nwfermentsinc.getfermented2494]

Either way is fine. But- the fruit will continue to break down & has already contributed the flavor. Removing it will avoid mushy floaties. You definitely can eat the fruit tho or add to smoothies. It takes on a great effervescence. Apples in particular are really good after a second ferment.👍🏼

[@loladelvalle7937]

NW Ferments, Inc. Get Fermented Thanks for your time !! 👌

[@lololollaughatlife1431]

What fruit ratio should I use per 16 oz bottle. I have diabetics in my family and want to keep it under 10 grams but still taste desirable.

[@nwfermentsinc.getfermented2494]

Nadine Hamburg for lower sugar, lemon & ginger are great options. We do the second fermentation in 1/2 gallon jars, then remove any fruit before refrigerating (just for looks, the fruit is great but gets mushy). We don’t do smaller bottles, too much chance for explosion and more of a hassle. You can pour into a to-go bottle as needed👍🏽

[@nwfermentsinc.getfermented2494]

Nadine Hamburg oh wait- ratio! Add to taste- maybe 1/4 cup per 16 oz?

[@lololollaughatlife1431]

NW Ferments, Inc. Get Fermented Thank you!!

[@umathoudam7977]

Can the water kefir ferment vegetables as well?

[@nwfermentsinc.getfermented2494]

Uma Thoudam a little bit of water kefir might help jump-start your veggies, but salt is still recommended.

[@dmartin301]

Could I use a Masontop to allow carbon dioxide to escape?

[@nwfermentsinc.getfermented2494]

Haven't used an airlock for that purpose, but it's worth trying. In a second fermentation you are trying to capture the carbon dioxide tho.... let us know what you discover!

[@michaelrennie1269]

does sue come on and say "hey sue"?

[@nwfermentsinc.getfermented2494]

Yep! 🤪

[@sitinurafiffahherlinda3983]

Have you 2nd fermented galric?

[@nwfermentsinc.getfermented2494]

Siti Nur Afiffah Herlinda we have fermented garlic, but never in a second fermentation of water kefir- not sure how that would taste🤔😱😉

[@sitinurafiffahherlinda3983]

I mean, Dayak Garlic tea.. Since tht garlic hsnt taste like garlic, btw thanks for sharing ur video.. :)

[@nwfermentsinc.getfermented2494]

Siti Nur Afiffah Herlinda haven’t heard of it but sounds like something we’d like to try! Thanks!

[@vbvini]

can you put the second ferment in a plastic jug?

[@nwfermentsinc.getfermented2494]

vbvini you can, but fermenting in plastic isn’t a great idea. The chemicals can leach into your beverage.

[@vbvini]

thanks , had a bottle explode . not pretty

[@nwfermentsinc.getfermented2494]

vbvini oh no! It helps (a little) to keep a towel draped over the top to minimize mess. You can also burp it now & then if you see pressure building up😊

[@redlady935]

@@vbvini how long did you leave it?

[@goodvibes9611]

Hi can you please explain how to bottle if I want to start running small production for shops. Thx:)

[@nwfermentsinc.getfermented2494]

GOODVIBES be careful with smaller bottles, they can explode easily. We’d recommend second fermentation in larger containers, then put finished product in the smaller bottles. And keep refrigerated once in smaller bottles. Sorry for the delayed response- good luck!🍀