Water Pump Recall MK6 GTI ~ Podcast Episode 88

[@matthewgaines10]

Strange this applies to only the GTI when the GLI, Tiguan, EOS, and CC also have the 2.0 TSI too and many have experienced the weak water pump issue. I just started to notice a slight coolant loss over the last month or so on a 2012 Tiguan with 45k on the odometer I suspect mine is on the way out. Before now, I've never lost coolant before. VW is sometimes hard to figure out.

[@rosswienert]

Even stranger that it only applies to specific VIN numbers within the GTI's in those model years. Yesterday, I discovered my GTI had no coolant. Despite that it's an issue specific to the GTI, both the local dealership and VW Customer Service refuse to cover it for my VIN. I'm not happy with their service or reliability. I thought I was purchasing something of a higher quality from people who would stand behind their product.

[@tim9817]

It's maddening that there was only a recall for the GTI's. My 2012 GLI just started to belch coolant, but I'm at 105K, so I can't complain too much, compared to other people having to replace theirs 3x

[@stockk5128]

Yeah 17 cc same setup, they won't cover it

[@brandonlogan3021]

Check coolant crossover under intake manifold. Never have lost coolant before as well, but plastic has 123k on my 13 cc 2.0t and it fixed my issue. Good luck to you brother

[@dee6688]

I have ‘13 mk6 GTI. Bought brand new and has been really solid, apart from 1 Carbon cleaning and intake manifold which was replaced under warranty. Last year, after warranty I had an oil leak which my independent shop found it was coming from that seal on the WP you were talking about. I had them replace it and also put a new WP in since they were in there. I never received anything from VW about this recall. Should I be compensated for this work?

[@CRIFLIFE]

This recall happened before my time but now at the dealer a little over 2 years now and I always see them fail from the thermostat housing rather than waterpump.

[@stockk5128]

Yeah it's bullshit. Mine is leaking on the water pump on the driver's side. Where it looks like a thermostat is. Not covered under warranty 2017 Cc. Same shit as the gti.

[@flyYyify]

So my waterpump recently started leaking horribly and I looked up my VIN on VW recalls site but it's not saying I require this recall. Any reason for that? It was a used car when I got it back in sep of 2015 so maybe they did it right before selling the car to me?

[@kbent88]

I am in the same situation. My dealer hung up on me after they told me my VIN wasn't included. I have the make model, year, and issue noted in the service recall but they refuse to fix it. My pump PN ends in CF.

[@rosswienert]

I have the same issue.

[@Den9696]

was the waterpump on the 2010 GTI different?

[@EyeR8]

Denis Houton Curious as well. Since I just had my water pump replaced like 3 weeks ago on my 2010 GTI, due to a leak.

[@jamesclayton4378]

Yeah I feel like the 2010 should be included in this, its the same generation and the oldest model year of the generation.

[@frosandcons4207]

On November 12 of 2015 i had my water pump changed due to recall. Last week, 2 years later that same water pump failed and i had to pay to get a new one.... thats way too soon for a new water pump

[@HumbleMechanic]

LAME! Was there any oil leaks?

[@frosandcons4207]

HumbleMechanic they didnt mention a thing about any oil leaks! The car is a 2011 GTI with 33 thousands miles. The dealer first quoted me 1700 for the work but i had warranty through carmax and they took care of it minus a 500 deductible but when i got the car back the total ended up being 1100..... from 1700 to 1100 is odd

[@CM-op7ri]

HumbleMechanic Sorry to bother you...is there any way you can point me in the right direction to get the pump replaced? I can't find the recall at all. Thanks!!!

[@wendynewberry6283]

Why is the original thermostat a two prong and the replacement part typically is one but not if you did the recall on the replacement waterpump . It's not matching up??? Can't find the thermostat part..I have a two prong and on part replacement is one prong? What happen during the recall replacement of they didn't mess with the thermastat?

[@mattetch12]

I think mine is going bad, 2011 gti mk6 (CCAT) @ 64k , low coolant warning, super low level in overflow, vin number does not show recall or service campaign (19k5), vw customer care won't confirm anything about it and says my car doesn't have anything mentioned about water pump failure. any chance you can shed some light on what I'm up against?

[@lowpez55]

Humble!! It just happen to me:( I got a 2011 gti ccta and none of my dealers say it's covered why? And info where to look for help

[@Messy_Jesse]

Greetings, im in the middle of a dsg clutch and mechatronics valve replacement. I have a new aluminium water pump ready to install when the old pump fails but im thinking maybe this is a good time to do it too. How much extra work would it be to replace the water pump while i have the transmission out of the way?

[@kbayoable]

Took the thermostat off from the water pump and replaced the the temperature sensor and was working fine, but now check engine came on and fans would stay on for awhile after turning the car off (2010 be gti)

[@menshood9771]

This part failed on my cdaa tsi 1.8 engine. Really unexpected seeing as it's done only 39k. Got the replacement part (06H-021-010) with the metal pump component. Unfortunately, the gear is slightly bigger in diameter (about 1.5mm) than the old (06H-021-008) and my mechanic is unable to install it. Waited 4weeks for this part and the supplier won't take it back. Is there a tweak you can share to resolve this?

[@chuckashton9688]

Good info to know thanks for sharing. Last week I was at my dealer for my 30,000 mile carefree service & was told that the balance shaft seal was being replaced along with the pump because it is above the water pump & can leak oil onto the pump compromising its seals. Any thoughts on the clock spring airbag issue Charles?

[@HumbleMechanic]

Chuck Ashton I think it's great for many reasons. I am going to record a show for next week about my thoughts on recalls in general. Some of the things I have to say may not be a popular thing, but it's the truth. There are a TON of cars that will be getting new clock springs. And a lot of customers that will be getting their money back. Also a lot of techs making good pay. WIN WIN WIN !

[@tacticalteamkilling6539]

I wonder if this recall is still active... I just picked up a 2011 GTI about a month ago and the water pump leak is the biggest issue I have.

[@HumbleMechanic]

I doubt it. You can call the dealer with the VIN and they can check

[@olliecup]

I believe I am having water pump issues with my 2010 VW GTI (flashing coolant temp light, very low coolant level below min). Do you know why the recall only applies to 2011-2014 GTIs. Thank you in advance.

[@HumbleMechanic]

+Ollie Scuba not sure on the whys of the recall. I don't even really want to speculate. Sadly we don't get that information.

[@jefflaub12]

HumbleMechanic I own a 2011 GTI checked with dealership and VW corp they both say recall does not apply

[@abernas6522]

I have just had a leaky water pump replaced on a 2016 GTI with 11,000 miles on it. Am I one of the few? The thermostat was replaced as well. The temp of coolant now has not reached the 200 by a few degrees. Should I worry?

[@HumbleMechanic]

Nah. I’ve seen a couple of them leak

[@abernas6522]

Thanks. (: But that does not leave me with warm and fuzzy feeling, and somewhat mistrustful of the water pump manufacturer... I added two bricks and a cardboard to my car trunk now to keep an eye on the drippies... limited trust building up... (:

[@msandonato23]

+HumbleMechanic So this wouldnt affect a 2013 Golf R right? Those are an updated 2.0t FSI if i remember correctly? Im thinking about picking one up.

[@katsooba]

Hi, would this fit a 2012 2.0 tsi Tiguan? i had mine break down twice now and i am thinking of getting the new metal faced one

[@omarsanchez7599]

Volkswagen does reimburse you if your vehicle was recalled. Use their website to check your VIN number to find out. I called VW and my 2012 Gti 2.0 turbo was not eligible. But the lady said my report was documented and if more cases like mine pop up then they'll put out another recall. So guys please call them up and save your receipts.

[@MarkSmith-pd3nt]

LOL.. Literally got in the car this am ('12 GTi) and had a low coolant warning. Checked.. yep down below the sensor wires. 47k seems a bit early to need coolant, but then again it seems early to need a the wheel bearing I put in last week.. Took truck, picked up coolant on way home from work.. Stopped at end of driveway, picked up mail, Letter from VWoA.. I kid you not.

[@HumbleMechanic]

+Mark Smith HAHA Wow, talk about perfect timing.

[@MarkSmith-pd3nt]

+HumbleMechanic Had the recall done yesterday.. all seems good. Dang near left it at the dealership though. Dang new R is pretty sweeeet.

[@stevecuahuizo792]

my 2011 gti seems likes it's lagging boost when I give it gas. you can hear the turbo spit could this be a recall ??

[@HumbleMechanic]

No. This recall will only cause a coolant leak.

[@gavsci9415]

I have a GTI 2012 and just saw this video, and brought in my GTI for an oil leak on my rear engine seal they notice coolant leaking from water pump too, this was just this past (04AUG17) . They replace the water pump, 06H-121-026-DD (water pump) and 2 screws, Union, Seal and Coolant. I don't have too tell you GTI'ers it was pricey. So, if there is a chance to me to recover this charge I would like to know about it.Thanks for the info and for the podcast

[@JacobFrey]

This is great news for GTI owners! I'm not one of them, but I've certainly heard about the trouble with water pumps. Hopefully they will roll out this update to other models soon. Perhaps VW will have to stockpile the part before they announce the rest of the cars?

[@pospc2]

My mk6 gti water pump was replaced about a year ago and wouldn't you know its leaking like mad. Anyone know a good source of a cbfa water pump? Also a diy?

[@HumbleMechanic]

Be sure there isn’t oil leaking on to the water pump.

[@pospc2]

@@HumbleMechanic i will check for leaks when its apart and repair as needed. Thanks for the heads up.

[@omarsanchez7599]

My mechanic is switching the water pump on my 2012 GTI 2.0 turbo as I'm typing this. (59,000+ miles)I also got this car used. Is there a way Volkswagen reimburses things like this? Or is that not how it works?

[@alensala5461]

Questions: 1- At 1.46 are those 2 Small O rings belong to 06H121131B? 2- What is the part number of that 1 bigger Oring? 3- Why do we need to change balance seal which is irrelevant with waterpump ? 4- What is that green color big seal for? Where does it go? Part number? 5- How can I install new belt to water pump after replacement as there is no tensioner ? 6- It looks like water pump can be replaced with only removing the big turbo hose without removing the intake manifold as there is some room there at 1.8TFSI Audi A5. Is that really possible? I need to change water pump ASAP, looking forward for answers... Thank you very much in advance.

[@HumbleMechanic]

Not sure on the part numbers. You'd be better getting that info from the dealer or where you buy the parts. 3) That is just part of the recall. Most often it is not replaced unless it's leaking 4) That is a throttle body gasket~ It doesn't NEED to be replaced 5) We rarely if ever replaced the belt. You have to take the counterthreaded bolt out to replace the belt. I wouldn't mess with it if you re just doing a pump. 6) YES you do not have to take the manifold off.

[@alensala5461]

Thank you very much for quick answers. The oil seal is just under that gear (with left treaded 12mm bolt) right? It looks like a transmission seal and looks like it is hard to get it out. Is that right? Secondly, isnt it better to change the belt as I already will be changing the pump? As I understand there is 1 20x3mm part nr N 90365302 coolant pipe oring and 2 38x4 in and out hose orings part nr 4E0121666 which are better to be changed. It looks like there is no other oring or seal and the temperature sensor and waterpump orings already come with the new whole pump...

[@ann-marieb2593]

So I just got the call that my water pump is bad, 2011 GTI with 37k (I guess I'm a home body). My VIN isn't showing up on the VW recall site as having any recalls. I left a message at the dealership asking about the recall. I'll probably have to fight with VW cooperate. bye bye $1000.

[@ayokarlos]

Ann-Marie B any luck mine went bad also. Was told there is no recall

[@absolut52]

@@ayokarlos I'm also looking for information on this... just called and they said there is no recall on it.

[@goose_pmc]

Thanks for the video! I am about to pull the trigger on a MY13 GTI and have been doing a lot of research into the car to be sure I am making a good choice. I love the feel and look of this car (it has those cool laguna wheels on it) and seems to be at a fair price. However, I am concerned about the w/p issue and found no information about any recalls for that MY except the airbag recall. It was comforting to find your video and learn that VW did, indeed, issue a recall and resolve the problem (that did fix it, right? O_O ). I have contacted the dealer to ask them to check this out for me and confirm that the w/p on the GTI is the 06J-121-026-BG w/p.

[@HumbleMechanic]

Yea a good amount of them have been recalled. something you may also want to check out is this video Top 5 VW Fails ~ 2.0t TSI Engine

[@ann-marieb2593]

Can someone link me to something official about this recall? My local dealership doesn't know anything about a water pump recall on GTIs.

[@HumbleMechanic]

The best bet is to call your local dealer and see if you have any recalls open on your car.

[@ann-marieb2593]

My dealer hadn't even heard of a recall on the water pump! My car didn't pop up on the site as having a recall open but I only have 37000 miles on my 2011.

[@mcseforsale]

Is this the same water pump that died on my 2010 VW CC that just vomited in my driveway 3 weeks before I have to pay for x-mas for 3 kids?

[@HumbleMechanic]

Similar but not the same pump. This pump has another sensor built in.

[@mcseforsale]

+HumbleMechanic Would it make sense to open a case with VW to get this fixed? My car has 60399 miles on it. I got an extended warranty with Carmax, but I fear that this won't be covered. If the difference is just a sensor, and all the other mount interfaces are the same, it makes sense that this would be similar. Also, I'm reading a lot of complaints about water pump failures on the 2.0 TSI in Tiguans. BTW, your information has been great since I bought this car 2 months ago. Invaluable.

[@mcseforsale]

Also, They want to charge me $1600 for the repair.

[@HumbleMechanic]

Car max warranty is awesome. They will almost definitely cover that. But you are barely it of power train warranty. I'd call VW for sure. Hell 400 miles out, there are ways to get that covered.

[@mcseforsale]

+HumbleMechanic You, sir, prove that there are still excellent people in this world. My service rep seemed indifferent to the warranty claim proposal. My first VW was a '79 Scirocco S and I've owned one ever since. He actually told me that he's "Not VW". To which I responded that he represented the brand. I've done my own work on every VW that I've owned, including my D-street prepared '86 GTI and don't mind getting VERY filthy to own these cars. I just wish the VW of late would treat us as we defend and represent the brand. Driving a rolling sewing machine like a Toyota or Honda would make me sad, but that's the only other alternative. Thanks again!

[@shadetreegiants9407]

I sort of want to buy a mk 7 GTI, but I'm afraid of the water pump issues. I am an avid DIYer and I take meticulous care of all of my cars. If I buy a brand new GTI, will I regret it?

[@3rdeye914]

Where is the link to the VW recall?

[@rosswienert]

static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2015/SB-10058634-4170.pdf

[@Onthewater763]

My 2012 gti that had the BG water pump installed 9k miles ago is in the shop as I write this!!!!!!!! Failed again !!!

[@HumbleMechanic]

+Rich Figlia damn!!! Is there an oil leak? I am not sure I've seen that pump fail twice when it wasn't workmanship

[@Onthewater763]

Charles , the engine has 3800 miles on it. Zero oil leaked.. new engine just installed because of timing chain tensioner failure at 46k miles. Has BG pump, had it installed 9k ago on previous engine . Not sure if new engine had new pump or old one was swapped over ( dealer won't say ) either way it's a joke .. either pump had 9k or 3800 miles .. going to pick up today.

[@LastHumansGarage]

can someone see the part number of their current water pump without taking apart their own car?

[@HumbleMechanic]

Yes but it's tricky. You have to look between the throttle body and the 3 connector bank. I use a long screw driver to move the connector a little.

[@PicanteGamer]

About a month and a half ago I had my water pump replaced with the BG revision. My VIN is still showing this recall on the VW site. My main question is would they have changed all the seals you mentioned at that time as well or is that something that only just started doing as part of this campaign? Thanks, big fan of your channel!

[@mmiski]

+PicanteGamer, I'm wondering the same thing. I had mine replaced with a rev BG pump just a few months before the recall was issued. They STILL wanted me to drop it off with them for the whole day. Granted the video does mention new seals also being replaced, and based on the parts list from my invoice the only part they replaced on mine was the water pump itself. So they might have a good reason to be issuing the recall regardless of past replacements.

[@tfuntoy]

Is this recall only for usa or for the global ? Nice video.

[@HumbleMechanic]

+T Fun I can only confirm US market.

[@jaehyungkim114]

Can you make DIY video on replacing the pump? My tiguan is leaking as well and i believe it is the same part on MK6 GTI... it is unfortunate they are only recalling on GTI. Since I have to pay out of my pocket and it cost $800 from dealer, I'm thinking about DIY. If you can create DIY video, that would help me out a lot!!

[@vwbora26]

I have a 2016 golf R 35 000 km and the water pump was leaking, will be replaced under warranty...that is bad tho.

[@pheatton]

So owners of the MKV GTI with TSI engines get screwed.... Mine has developed a leek at 83k and the dealers in area are quoting around $1100 for the work....

[@HumbleMechanic]

It is worth a call to VW to see if they can help.

[@pheatton]

+HumbleMechanic exactly what I'm going to do and get the dealer I worked for involved also.

[@schoolboy391]

Just dropped mine off at the dealer ;)

[@HumbleMechanic]

Awesome.

[@juanfranco7533]

haha customers wait? that just not possible.. advisors stamp waiter on EVERY ticket and the customer always has somewhere to be in an hour.. oh but dont forget the free car wash, they must have that lolololol

[@davidvilchez2209]

People are having wp issues. Mine just went out yesterday. It is leaking coolant everywhere and gets drained within 5 minutes of driving it. I have had numerous issues with my mk6 gti such as w/p, hpfp, lots of carbon buildup, intake replaced once, wheel bearing, coil packs, cracked coolant resevoir, bad pcv valve, and my car also was just recalled for the timing chain and tensionier, also the air bags dont work and they wont fix them either, and a sagging headliner. I'm over it. I almost want them to take the car back at this point. Car has 119k on it

[@HumbleMechanic]

Yea that sounds like all the really common MK6 things. SUCKS!!

[@williamnoble78]

Dude, I have almost all those same issues with mine too.

[@henryfigz808]

What if you started working on your car allready

[@eastcoastr]

I just got this recall done, and a couple hours later the service advisor said the tech broke a bolt off in the head. how?

[@HumbleMechanic]

+Anei Kitsune YIKES! Which bolt?

[@HumbleMechanic]

+Anei Kitsune I have seen someone break the bolt that holds the gear for the belt on. But that was because he didn't know that it was counter threaded.

[@eastcoastr]

+HumbleMechanic thanks for your input, they didn't tell me which bolt it was but from watching your video it was probably the special one for the pulley.

[@isaaccknight]

Do you get it for free?

[@HumbleMechanic]

If it qualifies for the recall

[@isaaccknight]

HumbleMechanic I got mine replaced for free yesterday 👍👍👍

[@r.scottyt3561]

WTF with 2011 up??!! I have a 2010 mk6 GTI, on its 3rd effing water pump....I have 2 friends that have initiated lemons/buy back with VW on their 2010's as well, 4+ pumps each.... SHYTE move on VW to exclude the 2010's in the mk6 lineup :/

[@HumbleMechanic]

Wow with 4+ pumps each I can't help but wonder if some of those were workmanship issues or if oil leaks where causing the pump failure. Either way it sucks.

[@MuGenSiTec]

I got this replaced on my mk6 GTI due to the recall n now i have noticed my coolant level slowly goes down took it in they did a pressure test & can't find the leak lmao VW problems!!!

[@HumbleMechanic]

Been there plenty of times. LOL

[@MuGenSiTec]

I just wanna know where my coolants running off to haha

[@CM-op7ri]

I'm pretty sure I'm dealing with this now. Do you have a link to the recall? Everytime I go for the VW website it get an "internal error" rendering no results. Any information would please help!! Thanks!!

[@jasonpeterfaivre4429]

How come you really focus on VW ?

[@michigander1998]

he's a VW tech...

[@HumbleMechanic]

Jason Peter Faivre David nailed it. I focus on VW because that is the world I live in. As a tech and as a car enthusiast. Even though most of what I talk about is VW related, it can be applied to many cars or techs out there.