Watermelon VS .22LR .22MAGNUM .22TCM & .223 Remington

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[@FukuYTmark6]

I'd say the TCM won 🏆

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

For sure, and definately not what I expected. Bullet design is everything when it comes to smashing watermelons it would seem...

[@rossgreenzweig]

TCM !

[@rob6850]

Boomstick!

[@crimsonfang264]

​​@@BuckeyeBallisticsno 22 lr and 22 magnum are best I'm not sure about this 22 tcm weird looking one it kind of looks look like some one took a 45 and tried to make it a rifle cartridge for a different gun

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

@crimson - It's a shortened .223

[@TheRange7]

The LR and TCM both surprised me. Good presentation man.

[@BAdventures]

You may find the 22TCM Wiki article helpful en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_TCM

[@eee2115]

If only the TCM was a more popular round with multiple sources for rifles and ammo. I would be all in on that. A good comparison would be the 5.7 vs 22 TCM.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

From a handgun the .22TCM is slightly more powerful, but from a rifle it's way more powerful than 5.7. I want to do the comparison, just don't have the 5.7 carbine yet...

[@BAdventures]

Parent case is 223 rem / 5.56mm NATO, open source so will never die. Good for handloaders. Reload 223 rem and if you get a split case, cut it down to 22TCM. You may find the Wiki article helpful en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_TCM

[@224valk4]

I had a TCM & LOVED THAT ROUND!! Had thumb surgery so tcm only is in 1911, its hard manual safety with my thumb!! ARMSCOR NEEDS TO SAAMI THUS ROUND!!!! I got a 5.7 because of this issue!! TCM IS MORE DEVASTATING THAN 5.7!!!!

[@BAdventures]

Totally agree RIA Armscor should support it better. You can get AR uppers and barrels in TCM now. You may find the Wiki article helpful en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_TCM

[@TheOldFatDadGoober]

Man, that TCM is a cool little round.

[@BAdventures]

You may find the 22TCM Wiki article helpful en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_TCM

[@guardianminifarm8005]

Good stuff. Thank you. Critters appreciate it too.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Good to see you again, almost gel test season over here...

[@Cosmo4357-mj1tw]

Now I'm hungry for some watermelon 🍉. And never disrespect the 22lr.

[@mikefarley5358]

I think the 223 did not dump all energy into the watermelon. Good test!

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

I said that in the video as well, and thanks!

[@louisbabycos106]

Wish they would make a semi auto carbine in 22TCM.

[@BAdventures]

You can get AR DI uppers in 22TCM. McGowen Precision and 'Tim The AR Guy' both offer AR15 DI gas barrels. KAK Industry also have direct blowback AR uppers. Can get a complete AR upper, or just the barrel and build your own. But will need TCM/pistol cal conversion mags. You may find the Wiki article helpful en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_TCM

[@doubled3983]

Hello from Oklahoma! Interesting Video. The AR style rifle with a 24 in. barrel is a different animal than the 16" carbine. The critters are gonna love U tonite!

[@BAdventures]

Good comparison and demo 👍

[@rossgreenzweig]

TCM is a monster! 🔥

[@BAdventures]

You may find the Wiki article helpful en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_TCM

[@yourmomma2995]

i really like your videos where you shoot random stuff. now i am going to look up your coconut test that i saw a long time ago.

[@lcee6592]

Cool comparison. Poor watermelons! 😂

[@Jesses001]

I did not know they made a rifle for .22TCM. I really liked it in pistol format, so rifle sure is interesting. Should be a ton of energy with not a ton of recoil.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Yes recoil is almost non-existant, almost like .22 mag, barely more, but far less than .223...

[@exothermal.sprocket]

By Wikipedia, looks like .22 Hornet and .22 TCM are almost exactly the same. Hornet edges it out a wee bit, but it's rated with 24" barrel vs. 22" TCM.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

@exothermal - And the ammo is half the cost of .22 Hornet...

[@exothermal.sprocket]

@@BuckeyeBallistics Yeah, the Hornet goes for nearly $1 per pop, provided you don't need it shipped.

[@BAdventures]

@@exothermal.sprocket Search online. Ammo Supply Warehouse has cases of 22TCM ammo for $0.32 a round. Both 40gr, and 39gr (9R) options. There is no shortage. Half the price of FN 5.7mm. And slightly cheaper than bulk pack 223 rem at $0.40 a round.

[@artwebb6939]

Well hell, if you lived nearby I have a 22 hornet I don’t even want 🤣

[@johnwilburn8319]

Where you be?

[@artwebb6939]

@@johnwilburn8319 close to Houston TX

[@officedullard8722]

Very manly way to plant watermelon seeds.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Lol

[@Chris_24]

Good stuff, thanks!

[@bigshug3127]

Cool video comparison brother, youtube decided not to show me any of your vid drops lately. Hope everything has been good

[@skynetupbracknielson590]

Very impressive was awesome to watch. Thank you so much.

[@davealessi8520]

Cool stuff.

[@chrislang5659]

The 22lr was surprising, the 22TCM has me blown away! Just like the melon!😅❤❤❤

[@BAdventures]

You may find the 22TCM Wiki article helpful en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_TCM

[@chrislang5659]

@@BAdventures 🫡

[@chrislang5659]

🫡

[@dugie5246]

Watermelons salad. Great slo-mo. Would have been nice to have a block of jell behind to try to retain bullets. Good video

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

I have something like that planned in the future...

[@bobcatforever3485]

BB. Good and fun video. Always interested to see thing blow up. Thanks for sharing. When you see Boomstick tell him I said hi! Take care.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Will do

[@bobsmoot2392]

TCM is a 9mm necked down to .22. It could be chambered in every 9mm platform (rifles/pistols) with just a barrel change. Why isn't it?

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Because it isn't- it's a .223 case. But there are (or was) conversion kits for Glocks at least at some point...

[@BAdventures]

22TCM parent case is 223 rem. Basically 223 short. Yes it can be chambered in 9mm platforms with a barrel swap and with the right conversion mags. You may find the 22TCM Wiki article helpful en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_TCM

[@kevanhubbard9673]

There's a .222 Magnum too which is a tiny bit more powerful than .223 whereas .222 is a bit less powerful than .223..222 and .222 Magnum are popular in countries which ban weapons which use military rounds.

[@devonholbrook3603]

.17 fireball check it out!

[@bobsmoot2392]

Follow up video suggestion: Clear gel tests. Fun video, thanks.

[@boeshoota5007]

love your range wish i could come waste this bucket of ammo the inside range wont let me shoot😉

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

It's my buddies place. I usually shout out his channel in the videos but he keeps changing his channel name lol.

[@josephcollins7393]

Speed kills

[@manthisisreallygood2051]

i am once again reminded that 22tcm is not as popular as it should be, it’s such a good round held back by poor adoption.

[@BAdventures]

Totally agree. It's basically '223 short'. You may find the Wiki article helpful en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_TCM

[@MidwestPicker]

@7:16 I thought you were talking about the rifles 😂 I'm slow.

[@sirtango1]

I don’t think I could do that if I owned a watermelon farm! They taste too good to waste!

[@Horus2Osiris]

You missed 223 WSSM at 4,000+ fps... 😂 Just kidding. Great video, thanks! ❤

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

That's what the "etc..." was lol

[@angelo_giachetti]

How I wish had my own range.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Same- I drive here 😅

[@captainjimstrattonusmc]

Thanks

[@boeshoota5007]

wait you forgot one the 223 varmit roundss i did a test 2 years ago and it blew my mind

[@boeshoota5007]

i typed this before your varmit comment i understand now

[@rolexr]

Never heard of the .22 TCM! What is it? And like you said - there are some .223´s with a more explosive performance on the market!!!

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

It's basically a shortened .223 but it uses a different powder so even though it's only half the length, it's nearly 3/4 the power. It was far more popular in their handgun where it beat the popular(ish) 5.7x28 cartridge in terms or overall power, yet it's far more powerful from a rifle length barrel as you see here...

[@BAdventures]

You may find the 22TCM Wiki article helpful en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_TCM

[@joemarchinski914]

Hollow point on .223 was a pinhole compared to the others, no expansion

[@mfddb3084]

How do you like your 22 tcm rifle? I have one on order. But im having second thoughts. A co worker said he had one and they are very inaccurate.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Love it- see my review video on it about 2 months ago. I had heard there were some issues with bad barrels causing accuracy issues, but mine shoots good and I would think any brand new one from the factory would be good to go at this point? I assume they are aware of what happened (it's been years) and I think that might have something to do with why you can't find them on the shelves anymore. When the pistols came out they were all the craze, but you can't find those anymore either. I honestly thought they were all discontinued- who is ordering it for you?

[@mfddb3084]

@@BuckeyeBallistics I buy all my guns from A.F boyers hardware in Pennsylvania. They ordered it for me almost 5 months ago. But this is pretty normal from RIA. I ordered a BIG ROCK. 6 inch match grade double stacked 1911 in 10 mm and it took about 7 months to come in. It was worth the wait.

[@BAdventures]

@@mfddb3084 22TCM is fun. try it for yourself before listening to naysayers. You may find the 22TCM Wiki article helpful en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_TCM

[@SwampyColorado420]

My prediction is the 22LR is best. 🤡

[@drvosstube]

It did leave the most to eat😅

[@bobsmoot2392]

Subscribed

[@johnutting9615]

Does anyone use a 222 anymore ?

[@peterschmidt2849]

That 16” 223 isn’t going 3200 fps 😆😅

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

3105 from a video I just watched, 3172 from a 20"- so very little velocity loss from a 16". If I was using a 24" bolt gun then yeah maybe 3250...

[@TimEdwards-s6c]

Start telling us what rifles you're using please

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Oh no, that'd be "talking too much" lol (see all the comments on my mouse gun video that you just commented on). Rossi .410/22lr youth combo, Rossi RS22M, RIA/Armscor M22, Anderson lower BCA upper AR

[@philgallier2690]

22 TCM

[@brucecook502]

👍

[@citrus1973]

2:50 ripe!

[@bryanengland2466]

Try something cheeper and less explosive like cabbage. 👍 😊

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

I've done that in the past (cantaloupes too) and it did not get very many views. People love seeing watermelons lol...

[@terrell48]

I have seen that range before whose is it

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

The pinned comment

[@petehendry4756]

What length barrel is on your ar15 ? 3200 fps for the .223 is going to require a 20 inch barrel . If your barrel is shorter and it looks like it is that would explain the lack of performance .

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

You only lose 100-150fps by going from a 20" down to a 16" which is only a difference of about 5-6%. You realize that even with this reduction, the .223 is still going faster and is still far more powerful than the .22TCM right? The "lack of performance" compared to the .22TCM is exactly what I said it was in the video- 2 vastly different bullet designs. You got a nearly flat faced semi jacketed lead soft point hollow point for the .22TCM, compared to an elongated pointy full copper jacked hollow point that is nearly half the diameter (the hole) for the .223. It is 100% down to the bullet design. And they don't make semi jacketed lead soft point hollow points for .223, so it's impossible for me to use the same design for both otherwise I would have. The .223 is still more powerful from a 16" barrel, it is absolutely the bullet design causing the results...

[@devonholbrook3603]

What's this dude talking about lol 😂 if he shot the SST he would have had the same performance the hollow point might not have even opened up!!

[@bobsmoot2392]

Does it bug anyone else, that he's shooting right over the shotgun laying on the bench? Be easy to accidentally shoot it with high sight.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

I was waiting for someone to say this. The angle of the camera makes it look like I was way closer to it than I was, it's an optical illusion due to the camera placement. In reality I was shooting nearly 12" over top of it...

[@devonholbrook3603]

Man you can sure tell who is experienced in this art and who just tries to make do-gooder comments to sound like there these big time experts are something!!!🙄lol

[@Theoriginalbubbafett]

No 21 sharp? 😂

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

They no give me one yet 🤷🏻‍♂️ 😅

[@kenheisler759]

Too much talk. I got bored and turned off.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Yeah this content isn't for children anyway...

[@devonholbrook3603]

That shit is aggravating as hell no cap !!

[@zackdaniels6858]

Great vid! Cheers

[@ЕвгенииПлешкевич-ь2ц]

Самое крутое было в конце когда ты решил добить арбузы 😃.прикольное видео ,спасибо порадовал👍🔥🤝

[@devonholbrook3603]

That s*** is aggravating though