Waterproofing Our Van Shower with Tanking (Recirculating Shower Part 2) | Transit Van Conversion E30

[@craigmacdonald4987]

Silencer was a great move!

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Yep! We were quite surprised how much of a difference it actually made, was instantly noticeable. When it's on lower speeds it's pretty quiet now

[@darren9752]

@@SelfBuiltStories I've seen people use two back to back, might be worth a look if youre still bothered by the noise

[@SelfBuiltStories]

@@darren9752 Yeah we've seen that as well, we're pretty happy with the level it's at now though. David McLuckie actually has a video where he tests out loads of different combinations including three in a row 😛 kzbin.info/www/bejne/oanIoqeAmtuJZtEsi=J9bRSsd44CkB2dBL

[@errolmagill1611]

Oh those summer days seem so far away now😒. That is a lot of work, but done with your usual attention to detail. Good idea with the silencer. Thanks.🙂

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Yeah for sure (hopefully we'll be less behind with the editing soon 😛). Although the weather has been unusually mild which is giving us a false sense of security at the moment! And thanks 😊

[@vicki9929]

Hello from Wyoming USA! I’m so happy to see you back! I love how careful you are with the water seal. Great video!

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it 😀

[@Bugs1953]

Good to see you two again.

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Thanks 😊

[@ianstjohn4506]

Another great video and really good to see the level of detail you go into. It will certainly help anyone else thinking of doing something similar. Very wise to spend the extra time doing more layers of the tanking. Can't wait to see the final finish

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Thank you! Yeah we're happy we went for the third layer, nice to have the extra peace of mind 🙂

[@marshmellow989]

Great work! How big is your water tank? How many five minute showers can you get out of it? Does the water recirculation occur for the five minute shower water or for the whole tank? What is the concept of shower recirculation? Sorry about all the questions! I am just a very curious little bee!

[@SelfBuiltStories]

​@@marshmellow989 cheers! 🙂 And no worries! So we have an 85l fresh water tank and a separate 18l hot water tank for the shower. If we're using it as a standard shower it goes down quickly, as our pump delivers ~2.5l a minute so for a high pressure 5 minute shower you would use most of the shower tank (~12.5l). So the way we designed the system was to save how much water we need while stile having a nice shower. What we usually do is a military style shower first using minimal water, which is ~2.5l each and that allows us to clean off any dirt, use shampoos and shower gels etc, and that all drains normally through the drain and out to the waste water tank under the van. Then we turn on the recirculating part (there is a switch outside the shower) which closes a valve to the tank and turns on a pump which pulls the water back out the drain and puts it through a number of filters before it goes back into tank, so it forms a closed loop. Then we can enjoy a hot rinse for as long as we want without using any more water. Then after a few showers we drain all the shower tank water into the waste tank and refill it from the fresh. That's pretty much the gist of it, we'll release a video on it at some point but it won't be for a little while. It's not maintenance free either as there are filters that need cleaning/changing from time to time and it obviously adds a bit of complexity, but it works well for us! 😀

[@lenmiles5150]

Great work! The shower looks perfect. It just looked like blue goop going on but dried flawlessly.

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Thanks! We're pretty happy with it, and yeah it was pretty gloopy! Quite fun to work with see it all turning blue. The third coat made a huge difference and made it look much complete 🙂

[@sigma6725]

YOU BOTH ARE GREAT INFLUENCER. ... LOVE FROM USA

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Thanks 😊

[@sigma6725]

@@SelfBuiltStories ALWAYS WITH YOU. ... 👍

[@SelfBuiltStories]

@@sigma6725 :)

[@sigma6725]

@@SelfBuiltStories DEAR TIM AND ABI ...💑... WAITING FOR NEXT VIDEO. ... 👍

[@SelfBuiltStories]

@@sigma6725 Hopefully not too long now! We're in the process of editing it :)

[@jamesstephenson8539]

That Chicken is ready to take a shower or go for a ride. Love watching it.

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Haha yeah, Eva is one very curious chicken! 🐔

[@NevContractor1]

Good job guys. Astute of you to identify that the air intake to the heater was making the noise, the same happens on inlets to the engine (which are silenced by careful airbox design), not that 99% of people know. Another good tip is to mount things like pumps (air or fuel) onto rubber bobbins, this helps isolate them from the chassis (which would transmit the noise more).

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Cheers, yeah we were surprised how much difference it made for such a simple and cheap addition, a big win! The fuel pump is mounted with the rubber spacer that came with it so it's not directly against the chassis, and that's mounted onto a block of wood. But the ticking still resonates and you can hear it fairly clearly, although it doesn't really bother us too much. We might try to quieten it down a bit but not eliminate it as the sound of it going is quite reassuring and we've got so used to it now we sort of like it 😛

[@redyredfern2276]

Hello I do like the thought of the reusable shower.I just came across your channel today guided there to watch the solar wiring and sizing still watching as your latest upload waterproofing the shower thanks for a good afternoon.I.m looking to move onto a boat and you skills and equipment will be transferable.

[@SelfBuiltStories]

No problem, glad you've enjoyed watching them! And yeah we hope the recirculating shower will make it much more usable in the van with limited water, and keep the weight down not having to have bigger tanks too. Good luck with the boat 🙂

[@robhilton716]

Brilliant video again, no shortcuts taken, built to last👏

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Thanks, yep don't want it to leak! 😛

[@GSXRI300]

except on the heater, another bellend not knowing what they are doing, a combustion engine yer lets block the intake and run rich

[@SelfBuiltStories]

@@GSXRI300 nothing blocked, plenty of free space around the intake. Has been running great for over 2 years now 👍

[@timhaywood2282]

The van is looking fantastic you are both doing a brilliant job

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Thanks a lot 🙂

[@campingadventures8760]

I really enjoy watching your videos,very inspiring,watching from Puerto Rico,USA

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Awesome, glad you're enjoying them 🙂

[@kirklacut]

Another job very well done; this is going to be a fabulous van conversion when you're finished!

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Thanks a lot, we hope so! Looking forward to getting to that point 😀

[@kevinbeckwith7740]

Nice job guys. I like your option to put a vent from the diesel heater for drying clothes in the shower. 👍

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Cheers 🙂 Yeah we think it'll come in pretty handy as a drying room, and also makes taking up so much space for the shower more justifiable 😛

[@flycow69]

Good job , you two have a lot of patience. By the way you know the shower is small when you are applying the waterproofing material from outside the shower and you still reaching the furthest wall lol. Ps I like to be generous when applying waterproofing material but liberal with my fiends in Floria when I need to tease them.

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Cheers, it did take a while! Haha it is small compared to a house shower but it's plenty big enough for us in the van, it actually feels fairly spacious inside when you're using it 😄

[@lincolndave1966able]

Great progress and definitely one of my main go to van build series for my own build as its always hugely beneficial to see someone actually doing things. As usual I am looking forward to your next video.

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Thanks, glad you're finding them beneficial 🙂 Hopefully it won't be as long till the next one this time...! 😀

[@Justablokeonaboat]

Great to see you back again…the work you do is incredibly well thought out and you’re skills are clear to see. Lovely update.

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Thank you very much! 😊

[@danbracebridge1582]

Really living your build guys, amazing attention to detail!

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Thanks so much! Happy that you're enjoying it 😊

[@videodomination]

Smashing it out the park once again - doing a damn good job! Well done both, inspirational!

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Cheers! 🙂

[@demus8757]

Great job, as always. A lot of work to make it all waterproof but the result is fantastic.

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Cheers! Yeah it was a fair bit of work but quite nice and easy to do with everything all self-contained in the kit 😀

[@wayne-world]

Looking good top job

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Cheers 🙂

[@cccmmm1234]

Maybe a roller works better, but certainly doing more coats is worth it. I sealed a deck with similar membrane and a roller worked well. I still used a brush on inside corner edges though.

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Yeah would be interesting to try with a roller actually, we just used what came with the kit. Is quite tricky to get a flat finish with just a brush so not a bad shout to give that a try 👍

[@doglabdogtraining-gus.8873]

Great video guys, thanks to you now i know how to do my shower room.

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Cheers! Good luck with your shower 😀

[@sB3rg]

Looks great! I don't know about ya'll, but this was my least favorite part of my Transit build. Well done! Bet ya'll were glad to get through it.

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Thanks! Hmm yeah the shower in general was something we were not looking forward to and definitely put off for a while as we knew it was going to be a big project, but this part of it was quite nice actually as it was just following instructions on a kit for once! We find all the thinking and planning and building for all the shapes and curves of the van to be the most tiring mentally, some days it feels like you make barely any progress (or go backwards 😅). It was pretty satisfying to do the water test at the end of this one 😛

[@newvannoplan756]

Wow, well done guys, you love doing things the hard way. But tbh as long as its correct it does not matter. We did the ply with a shower tray we trimmed to our size then 2mm of pvc. Keep up the good work. :)

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Thank you 😊 Yeah we did plan to use a shower tray originally and actually bought one but it didn't fit in the space we needed it, so after a brief 'hmm what now!' moment decided we'd build a custom fit wet-room instead. Was a bit of work but we're happy with how it turned out 🙂

[@md2320]

Slow but well thought out, looking forward to the finished van

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Yeah waiting for it all to dry over and over makes it take quite a while...! And cheers, us too!

[@outdooreng4973]

That’s great job well done What is the thickness of plywood wall?

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Thanks! And we reused the ply that was on the van walls when we bought it, which was around 5mm 👍

[@ok-ch5xr]

Beautiful build of a shower One question what the Measurement please Please

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Cheers, and the rectangle part inside the shower not considering the angled or wheel arch bits is roughly 76x60cm 👍

[@keithstubbington6962]

Looking forward to seeing the finished article, very well built and interesting. Will we be seeing any trials and trips...could you tell me the name of your catchy signature tune please..

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Thank you :) We're looking forward to seeing how it turns out too! And yeah we like to include little clips from the trips we've had so far and think we'll probably make some videos when we're travelling around if people enjoy them 👍

[@fpvshenanigans]

I like this idea! We have a plastic tray which turned into a nightmare. I might go this route. Im wondering how is it holding up so far?

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Hiya, happy to say absolutely no issues so far with many showers in that time! We'd definitely go down the same route if we were building another van too as having to conform everything to the limited sizes/shapes of trays was too limiting for the layout we wanted. And we don't have to worry about the often tacky motorhome trays cracking or yellowing either 👍

[@lucehunter]

Where did you get the magnets from/what are they called that you put either side of the van to cut through it? 😊

[@SelfBuiltStories]

They're just a pair of fishing magnets and ours are rated for 250kg. That seems to be a good sweet spot as we can feel the magnetic force through the van even through our composite floor with all the insulation in, but not so strong so that we can remove them from the underside easily. So would imagine any pair around that sort of strength would work nicely, something like this: www.magnosphere.co.uk/neodymium-fishing-magnet-threaded-eyelet-32-90mm/a-2201. There's some on Amazon too. HTH! 👍

[@RooMonroe]

Good video

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Cheers!

[@timw4926]

Looks fab . What's was the paint called

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Cheers, and which paint do you mean? If you mean the blue rubber waterproofing then it's part of the tanking kit we used (link in the description) 👍

[@steveround315]

Hi, loving the build. Have you considered venting for the shower, especially if you are using it for a drying room as well Keep up the great work

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Cheers! And yeah we've given it quite a bit of thought. What we're doing it putting in a sliding door that stops a few cm's short of the top of the shower so there's a decent air gap, and then we have the maxxfan right outside which we'll have on while the shower is in use. Then when the diesel heater is on it will push dry warm air into the bottom of the shower and then be pulled out the top by the fan, so hopefully making a decent flow. There will also be a small fan inside the air pipe for the toilet we're putting in too. We think all that together should allow for some decent ventilation, but if when we stress test it we need something else, we'll add an extra fan/vent at the top of the shower 👍

[@steveround315]

@@SelfBuiltStories I should have known you guys have a plan. Loving the care and attention you are giving the build

[@SelfBuiltStories]

@@steveround315 Haha cheers, it's probably something like 80% thought and 20% actually building 😛

[@stevecope304]

Just come across your build channel and have bingwatch all your vlogs, and was just wondering how you intend to heat your hot water for the shower and sink !!

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Cool, thanks for watching! And we're going to be using a Bobil heat exchanger that uses the energy from the diesel heater to heat the water in a separate 18l tank, which should be able to get it to 40C in around 10-12 minutes. We have the kit already so hopefully not too long till we can get it all in! 🙂

[@PtangPtangBiscuitBarrelSmith]

Top Work as always...Maybe you have already said. but are you not having an extractor in the shower?

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Cheers 🙂 And what we're planning to do is use the maxxfan that's right outside the shower to pull out the moisture air. We're going to put in a sliding door with a small airgap at the top, and then we'll have the heater blowing warm dry air in to the bottom of the shower. So hopefully it will create good airflow to remove the moisture and then dry out the shower room afterwards

[@AGMostlyUnderwater]

Hi Again, looking great again, must be itching for a finished van at this point?! New question - any estimates/guesstimates or calc’s on how many hours/days spent on building outside of the planning time to get to this point please? Just being nosy 🙂

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Cheers, and yep very much looking forward to it being finished, hopefully should start to come together a lot quicker now that we've done a lot of the bigger things. We haven't kept tabs on all the hours but it's definitely a big project and like anything you go through periods of more and less motivation. The weather and filming it all makes it take a lot longer too 😛

[@moa-wg3bo]

Van is coming along great! I've just binged most of your videos over the past few days and am looking forward to seeing the final product. On a side note - how do you find the extended van to drive? Currently deciding on what van to pick (I'm 193cm and would need a lengthwise bed + height of a transit) so sort of torn between the LWB and LWB extended (jumbo). Do you find the back scraping on hills/ swinging into traffic on narrow roads? Living in NZ with its hilly geography and narrow roads that would be a bit of a dealbreaker for me unfortunately - but seeing you guys happy with yours gives me a bit of hope haha.

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Thanks a lot! 🙂 Yeah it's starting to take shape a bit more now, we're hoping we've done most of the bigger projects! And we find the van absolutely fine to drive, more comfortable than being in our car. We drove it 13 hours up to Scotland and it didn't feel that long at all. Where we are is lots of narrow country lanes, potholes and hills but we've never had a problem with the length. It's a bit interesting sometimes on a single track lane when another vehicle comes the other way and you have to reverse though! The only times we really notice the size is in busy urban areas, especially trying to park. Supermarkets and things round here aren't really designed to accommodate a 7m van, so we often drive around for a bit trying to find somewhere suitable 😛 We spent a few weeks in NZ on the South island in a motorhome, absolutely loved it there! You have some stunning scenery, hope to be back one day 😊

[@dazmtb]

Another great video and contemplating using this method to do my shower room. So how has it stood up to time so far and are there different colour options? 👌🏻

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Cheers, and it's holding up nicely so far. Presuming you mean for the PVC and tiles which we put over the waterproofing layer? As the blue tanking is all covered up. And yeah you can get them both in different colours (we almost went with duck egg for the reco tiles). HTH 🙂

[@dazmtb]

I’m referring to the the tanking on the floor, because potentially it could get wet if the sealant fails.

[@SelfBuiltStories]

@@dazmtb Ah ok, yeah the floor is holding up really nicely too. It's the same waterproofing membrane and then Altro Pisces wet room flooring on top. You can get that in a different colours and styles too 👍

[@theworth123]

Lookin' gud...

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Thanks 🙂

[@alexdarrellthird]

Can I please ask how you're going to get the used shower water back inside the van for filtration and re-circulation? It looks to me as though your drain pipe is going to need to be routed straight back in and up the back wall into the filters via a sump? I'm currently converting a sprinter and trying to figure out how to do this without cutting two unnecessary holes in the floor!

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Sure, so we have another pump that sucks it back out the shower drain and brings it back into the van to the right of the shower into the bottom of our bench seat, where it then is pushed through all the filters. We wanted to keep the number of holes down to a minimum too so what we've done is put the pipe back up through the pipe that the toilet fan vents air out of. It's been working great so far, just taking some experimentation with different starting temperatures and how to use it most efficiently 🙂👍

[@bradtenbonga]

How did the show fair up after use? Is there anything you would change if doing again? Thanks

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Very well! The shower room has stayed completely watertight which is great so we'd definitely use the same tanking kit and sliding door we have now. And the recirculating part is working great too. The one things we'd change is on the drainage side of things, as at the moment we have to be quite particular with how we park to have it work properly. We did try to slope the sides into the drain but we'd probably accentuate that a little more by making some slightly angled wedges that point into the drain before doing the tanking layer. We'd also put in a slightly larger waste tank and lower it a little to increase the drop under the van too (we'll probably do that at some point anyway). Not big issues right now and we use the shower all the time, but would definitely make it better 👍

[@lavra1212]

Hi is it safe to use diesel heater in shower ? I mean what if water gets in there? is it possible? I'm at the stage of building a shower in my campervan and I'm wondering if it's a good idea. Thanks and greetings from Scotland :)

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Hiya! Yeah we had similar concerns about water backing up in the ducting but having done it now, we're not too worried. We've thought about the design to minimise the chance of any water getting into the ducting. So the air vent has a hood on it, and is on the same wall as the shower so the water is spraying away from it. We've also tried to angle the ducting downwards, and it's corrugated so any splashes that did get inside wouldn't get very far. You would have to have a large amount of standing water or deliberately point the shower into it for water to travel further down it. But even then, it probably wouldn't get past the heat exchanger we're using as that forms a low point, and there's also hot air being blown through it all the time. So we're fairly confident the way we have it set up is fine. Looking forward to being able to extensively test it when the recirculating part of the shower is hooked up 🙂

[@johan-zs8nc]

nice work, do you work on this project every day ?

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Thanks :) And we weren't able to work on it for most of the Summer so are trying to work on it as much as possible at the moment before the weather turns, not every day but whenever we can

[@andym1908]

Daft question what does the tape do ? 😊

[@SelfBuiltStories]

No daft questions! 🙂 It's got a flexible butyl tape layer which goes over all of the joins and corners to provide the first layer of waterproofing before the membrane goes on. All the seams are the most likely places for any leaks so you put it anywhere there is a join and it should move and flex with the van as it's moving 👍

[@andym1908]

@@SelfBuiltStories so once you have applied the paint type sealant. Do you put anything else over like the plastic type panelling? Just for aesthetic purposes?

[@SelfBuiltStories]

The pvc layer is also completely waterproof but forms the visual layer you see too. And very easy to wipe clean 👍

[@darrensmith403]

Hi guys. Do you know the weight capacity of the fishing magnets

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Hiya, yep they're stamped as 250kg which worked great for us, strong enough to feel the force but not so strong they couldn't be removed 😛

[@darrensmith403]

@ do you have a link to them by any chance? Thanks for the reply

[@SelfBuiltStories]

​@@darrensmith403 Hmm sorry we've had them for a while and not sure where they were originally from! But would imagine any pair around that sort of strength would work nicely, maybe something like this: www.magnosphere.co.uk/neodymium-fishing-magnet-threaded-eyelet-32-90mm/a-2201. Or there's lots of choices on Amazon too: www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=neodymium+fishing+magnet HTH 👍

[@darrensmith403]

@@SelfBuiltStories you guys are awesome. I’m using your videos to assist me so much with my own build. Truly inspiring

[@SelfBuiltStories]

@@darrensmith403 cheers, hope the rest of the build goes well! 🙂👍

[@jeffmason8418]

Hi what waterproof kit did you use pls

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Hi, it's the Everbuild tanking kit, there should be a link in the description 👍

[@sethgold6950]

Hello from Germany 🇩🇪. How many Kg did you guys really used ???

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Hey 👋 Do you mean for the shower or for the van? We've been trying to keep a rough track of the weight of things as they go in but with the carpentry its a bit trickier to weigh, but we've taken the van to the weigh-bridge a few times to check how it's going overall

[@sethgold6950]

@@SelfBuiltStories i mean just for the shower 🚿. 😁

[@SelfBuiltStories]

@@sethgold6950 Ah k, we don't know in isolation as we built it piece be piece inside the van for that one. And between the weighbridge visits we had added more than just the shower so hard to pick out just that on its own. We used the leftover van wall ply which was only 5mm to keep the weight down there, and the pvc and reco tiles are nice and light. We did end up using a little more wood for battening though than we'd have liked as using our plywood offcuts meant we had a lot more joins that needed supporting. Think if we were doing it again we'd probably size the wood down on the supporting rails from 2x2 to 2x1 and use bigger pieces of ply, but we wanted to use up everything we had left instead of buying more wood

[@SeanDavey-q7e]

How strong are the magnets you used please?

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Hiya, they're a pair of fishing magnets rated for 250kg. That seemed to be a good sweet spot as we could feel the magnetic force through the van through our composite floor with all the insulation in, but not so strong so that we couldn't remove them from the underside easily 👍

[@SeanDavey-q7e]

@@SelfBuiltStories Thanks. Sounds ideal for clarity was it 2 x 250 kg or 2 x 125kg please

[@SelfBuiltStories]

@@SeanDavey-q7e 250kg each, sounds like a huge amount but that's what's printed on them! The hold force is strongest when they're flat upright against a surface, so we take them off by pivoting them on an angle first. (No liability taken if you get a magnet stuck on your van that you can't remove 😁)

[@SeanDavey-q7e]

I’ll trial run them somewhere “safe” first😀thanks again for your reply

[@SelfBuiltStories]

@@SeanDavey-q7e haha no worries, good luck 😀

[@Phoenixtheoffgridcamper]

what size did you make the shower cubicle?

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Hey, so the rectangle part inside the shower is roughly 76x60cm, and then there's the angled part which gets around the van pillar and the box part around the wheel arch 👍

[@Phoenixtheoffgridcamper]

@@SelfBuiltStories superb thank you I’m in the process of co veering an ex Bt Openreach trailer body

[@SelfBuiltStories]

You're welcome, good luck with it!

[@bobsheriff8526]

Hi we’re did you get the tanking paint kit

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Hiya, it's the Everbuild tanking kit and we got it from Amazon, the links to everything should be in the video description 👍

[@christopherbushrod1571]

NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE BUT GOT EVERY Tool UNDER THE S UN

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Slowly acquired a few during the build, particularly for the electrics. Large amount borrowed along the way, the odd lidl specials, and then selling some back on eBay at the end all helps 👍

[@punjabseth260]

🌼👌🏻

[@SelfBuiltStories]

😊

[@davidhughes7041]

Use Eternabond tape

[@SelfBuiltStories]

That tape does look pretty cool, thanks. Will keep it in mind if we ever get any leaks on the roof or something 🚐

[@zupp.social]

Your shwer frame is kind of too strong huh

[@SelfBuiltStories]

It's pretty strong, in part because we wanted to use up all of the plywood scraps we had leftover from the van walls to save buying any more, so needed more cross-members to support them on the edges. We might shave off some weight later on by carving some material out of some of those, we'll see

[@sashanealand8315]

cool but cant hear what you are saying because of the music

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Cheers :) And thanks for the feedback, we try to only have talking in the music sequences if it's just a bit of banter between us and quieten it down but we'll keep it in mind 👍

[@JonMadsen70]

:)

[@SelfBuiltStories]

😊

[@davidhughes7041]

Fibreglass it it's much easier and cheaper

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Hmm we found the tanking kit really easy to use to be honest, the tape is a little fiddly at first but other than that it just paints on. Probably one of the easiest jobs we've done in the van which was nice! It did take a while to complete each step but a lot of that was just drying time. Never used fiberglass before so would be interesting to try it out sometime, but can't really see it being easier for us as we'd need to apply the resin and cut the matting around and into all the awkward shapes of our shower. Cost wise there only seems to be a penny in it between the large tanking kit we bought and a similar sized fiberglass kit, although we did need some extra tape 😛

[@GSXRI300]

no such thing as comp toilet in a van, it takes 3months for number 2s to breakdown thats a lot of 2s

[@SelfBuiltStories]

Yeah generally for most people although depends on how/where you dispose of it, but that's what they call them. We consider it more of a waterless, separating toilet and way nicer to deal with than a chemical one 👍