Wavedash Definitive Guide & Implementation | TEKKEN 8

[@skidara]

Tekken 8 is the first fighting game I´ve practiced more seriously and your videos have made everything so much smoother for me, especially when I play only Reina. Every video you put out is easy to understand and high quality so thank you thank you and thank you!

[@MishimaComplex]

Much appreciated! Thanks for your support 🙏

[@bilbo_gamez6195]

Yh same I dont think I've ever actively practiced and tried to improve my game as hard in a fighting game before. I havent played since tekken tag 1, got a ps5 for Christmas n was holding off for reviews before buying a fighting game... then Tekken 8 came out n I bought it day 1 😂 glad I did though the only game where the nostalgia hasn't been completely removed just revamped and built on.

[@PiJookin]

Dude that's so relatable. I've played Tekken since the 1st edition in the 90's and I never did try to play it more serious. And now finding Reina for me as one of the must fun fighters, this channel is helping me out so much. Highly appreciated Mr. Mishima. Even it's still hard and needs steady preactice.

[@Serralas]

Remember that if you're playing against someone that just mashes that wavedashing is basically useless as they don't have a single clue what you're going for anyway. Lol

[@seanbrown7083]

Pretty much tbh I’m warrior and nb really respects my wavedash so I really only do it in small bursts if there is a lot of distance other than that nah

[@foochs]

not true. because they'll just lose if you know the techs out of wavedash. You'll triple perfect them by primarily interrupting them with hellsweep, and then lauching them with ff3 and counterhit df2. If they are spamming moves with low start up frames just press 1+2 and db12, If they are spam jabbing then just press d 1+2 which will launch them. If you're having trouble with "wavedashing" in low ranks then that just means you haven't mastered the "perfect input" hellsweep. Which will literally get you perfects until they start premptively crouching and that's when you do ff3, since they don't know how to SSL yet, so they are easily spammed by this move without even needing to track with wavu. If you "know how to wavedash" you'll be on a 20 winstreak out of "low ranks." (more skilled version of this is using EWGF instead of hellsweep to stop them from pressing at risk of perfecting them, since it's safe on block, and since low ranks won't be able to crouch punish it. Against a hopkick spammer you use F2. Against a highcrush low spammer you press 1+2 into vortex)

[@foochs]

Also bonus, 1+2 which will land every single time against low rank spammers, sets them up for a vortex. If you understand how Kazuya's vortex works then you'll understand why "wavedashing is not useless in low ranks" lmao. To the uninformed, while the opponent is on the ground, you mix them up with ff3 and hellsweep, but you have to wave to track their sideroll since they land on the ground face down. If they are spamming, then It's simply your job to teach them why the more experienced players allow Kazuyas to wavu in the first place, by using your initial options within the first 0-1-2- or 3 wavus. Utilizing wavedashing correctly involves understanding the tools that you have and when and when not to use them to pressure. Against low ranks, you don't even need to pressure. Just hellsweep. Understand that the opponent's low rank algorithm is simply. "I will press, because pressing = free damage" followed by "I shall not press, because I keep getting hit by DF2 and losing half my health, or get put into vortex by 1+2." as well as "I will not block low, because I do not know how to play defensively." followed by "I shall only block low, because I just got hellsweeped 7 times in a row." Another good tech against spammers even at high rank is to press D1 followed immediately by rising 4, and just keep looping this. You can even expect to land this multiple times in a loop in purple ranks before you start getting punished, so basically you can win in low ranks practically just using that and interrupting strings.

[@foochs]

Bonus tech. Once your opponent is afraid of both hellsweep, and FF3, or they simply dislike staying in crouching state while pressured. Wavu into them and then ff into a sprint, then press DF into hellsweep before you stop running. You can delay it for a desired amount of time or simply just stand there touching them. This tech works almost every time in high ranks, since most people are just used to getting spam wavu'd and only reacting to the hellsweep if you are continuously wavu'ing.

[@OctopusH2O]

What I understood from my experience when getting interrupted is that you should use wavedash on oki and condition them with hellsweep, once they are afraid of it they’ll most likely stop mashing and try to block it, this is the moment you use mids, repeat the process and there is the solution

[@vinhly2556]

0:54 at this stage of my Kazuya journey. This is enough.

[@jordansmith7546]

This guy's guides are so direct and easy to understand. Reached purple without the technique but this is def a game changer.

[@kevinpeixes3735]

your tutorials are so good, im already noticing massive improvement on my own gameplay AND im having lots of fun practicing. Thank you so much!

[@Mozgodrobil]

Also practice your electrics timing out of wave dash, I usually try to randomly insert an EWGF or EWGK between WD spam while in practice, to practice different timing and make sure to hit the just frame

[@ZAYVERYRARE]

Interesting… will definitely try this out.

[@lichtbach7693]

Im trying to practice wd into fc df4 xD

[@MishimaComplex]

Good tip! 👊

[@guutenks2498]

trying this now and its hard as fuck

[@KaiserAdomin]

Tekken 8 is the first Tekken i've tried to play more competitively because fr i'm down bad for Reina i was always a Mishima main but until T8 was never able do Electrics but your videos have helped me a lot now i can do Electrics and some wavedash watch your videos and hit the lab everyday, thank you man seriously

[@Master_of_Souls-]

I’m glad I found this video because I was wondering how people wave dash. Going up against people do do it scares the hell out of me lol

[@Lowly_Tarnished]

First time I see such a good guide on wavedashing, thanks, you've gained a follower 😁 I've never really dared playing a Mishima because of EWGF and WD, now I can do EWGF more consistantly and with your guide I'm sure I'll get better at WD too

[@qaywsxedcrfvful]

Funniliy EWGF is what made me buy the game, i liked how it looks and sounds

[@sr.savofgc]

I'm King Main and the Best Step is similar, so this tutorial is quite handy, Thanks!

[@kevinpeixes3735]

Thanks!➡⭐⬇↘🟢

[@MishimaComplex]

Yoo thanks so much man, glad to hear you’re improving and having fun while doing it, growth mindset is the way to go sounds like you’re doing it right. Thanks again! 🙏👊

[@bludika]

i love this guy's stuff, top notch production

[@seanbrown7083]

Thank you man I be stuck at warrior for quite some time hopefully your vids about mishimas will help me

[@nna1u39]

My Mishima complex made me buy a proper arcade stick, I've been analysing this video day in day out, thanks man!

[@solitudeau8188]

Tried this method on keyboard for 5 minutes after having a very rough idea of what to do. Already did 6 in a row super easy on keyboard. Much harder on stick. If i ever swap to a mishima, i'm using a hitbox. Its insane how easy wavedashing is with this tutorial combined with a leverless controller

[@Mighty_Z14]

"Why do we do it...because it's badass" lol

[@xgenkyokai]

For reina mains like myself try practicing with kazuya hers is a lot more lenient so and kazuya gives u good mechanical muscle memory

[@sasusaku5276]

Thank you! I was waiting for this.

[@josephjoestar995]

I was literally searching your channel for this yesterday! Happy this is here 🙏

[@paulespino6462]

Using forward to cancel your forward movement so that you can move forward after you've moved forward.

[@biziilo1669]

Thank you.. I needed this lesson. 😅

[@sherrons88]

The god himself, mans always comes through I love it here.

[@unchartedrocks1]

Wouldn’t this be ideal for arcade stick or hitbox but painful with d pad???

[@seanbrown7083]

My thumb gets tender tryna do ts on D-pad

[@EveryDamnDayy]

one thing i noticed is you can also get away with pressing df right after pressing f,* and the game will still register it as a wavedash

[@ottmatl]

Just became a mishima in t8...was a bob in 7 and a lei prior..reina all day

[@chocochip8]

Me too, i'm asuka in 7, now reina in 8

[@maxwellcrow9677]

Alisa in 7, Reina in 8

[@ricardimension]

Me too, t8 is my first lmao

[@lichtbach7693]

Bob has a wavedash so you must be ahead of us xD

[@KingDangAhLang]

I used Slim Bob in Tekken Tag 2 but changed to Claudio in Tekken 8. Both Bob's are really cool characters. I feel like they will definitely have Bob at some point in Tekken 8. It'd be cool if they dropped Slim Bob made with Bob since they had almost the same moves aside from a few of Fat Bob's fatty patty moves that Slim Bob wasn't fat enough to do

[@sneharashmi7553]

Concise, precise & to the point! Also thanks to SF6 for implementing the input display in practice mode because of which I think Tekken 8 got influenced to follow suit. On an ending note, when is King's wavedash ???

[@ThomasLund-w3c]

Lol tekkens had it for over 10 years

[@sneharashmi7553]

@@ThomasLund-w3c Sorry! I meant to say input display with frame counter! My bad!

[@mostafaabolila2295]

Is possible on pad ? Because i feel it’s impossible to do .

[@ZenysIsTaken]

It is

[@ShoRyuGuile]

Would you happen to have a King wave dash tutorial?

[@Shedrick_Goldsmith]

"With a little practice" bold of you

[@qqgoblin]

I believe in u bro🙏

[@sabianfernandez497]

These videos are amazing!

[@XY-Man]

Closing on 10K subs bud!, so happy for u!, you deserve it! 😀👍🏻

[@josephjoestar995]

Wavedashing really makes me consider getting a stick controller

[@mako8091]

Noobs: Run This guy: Wavedashing "We've been trying to reach you regarding your car's extended warranty."

[@macquess]

So wave dash is useful to all characters in T8 ?

[@wolrereaper]

Your videos are so well put together. Can you do guides on raven? Your shouldn’t be Mishima complex it should be tekken complex! Dorya!!!

[@MishimaComplex]

Eventually I’ll branch out to other characters! Thanks for the kind words 🙏

[@hasanali5300]

Thanks coach, is it possible to do on D-Pad ? i can only do one WV dash, and i still can not do Kazuya WV dash cancel, i am currently at Tanryu with kazuya

[@MishimaComplex]

It’s possible yeah, not sure about your case but a common issue is not doing the full QCF input for the first crouch dash. Check your command history and let me know if you’re still struggling 👍

[@hasanali5300]

@MishimaComplex will do. Thanks, i got the ps5 dualsense Edge, which has 2 extra triggers at the bottom . Thanks to it, i have a stable 3 EWGF and 1 WV dash , but maybe i need to use the stick, not the arrows, for stable wv dash & cancel

[@katama_1]

I'm having trouble inputting down after neutral so it just d n df is there a trick to getting it more consistent. I use controller

[@slugshotgun]

stringing 2-3 or even infinite wave dashes in a row is manageable but the real grind is trying to do it extremely fast

[@DallasUzumaki]

Does it work for all Mishimas or just Kazuya?

[@FaJinLei]

Thanks for this vide...Just one favour more can please make a handcam video.

[@Ali_Yousif]

I want to do this with king

[@o_ocolonelarmy2393]

Thanks you a lot sensei

[@NemSumeragi]

How do you chain wavedashes without the forward dash? I've seen it done, but I never seem to see anyone discuss it in their guides. Are they just cancelling the forward dash really early? Even the tempo seems completely different

[@lichtbach7693]

Wdym without f dash ? You mean wavedash guard cancel ?

[@MishimaComplex]

They could just be doing it really fast or at a different rhythm to me, you can’t technically wavedash without the forward dash cancel I don’t think 👍

[@lichtbach7693]

@@MishimaComplex i think he meant the guard cancel. Wavedash to guard it doesn't propel the character forward that much especially if yoou press guard immediately and still works as a dash guard pressure but has a wavedash. You can see qudan does it

[@UserDoesNotExist570]

@mishimacomplex do you know why my character side step stutters when doing the wave dash on p1 side ? it seems like theirs a glitch or a bug. Can you help me out ?

[@MishimaComplex]

Sidestep will happen if you press D then neutral, check your command history to see if that’s what happens 👍

[@NekoKuroshi]

thanks for this tutorial

[@enny7377]

Why does this not work with perfect df inputs? I prefer skipping the down input, but then I can't do this form of wave dashes!

[@acewellington6008]

I think I found my new teacher

[@Cherilyn_45]

Can every character actually wavedash? I recall it wasnt the case in T7

[@sabianfernandez497]

Can you do a wave dash block guide. To bait attacks. I like to dash block a lot but wave dash feels quite vulnerable

[@lichtbach7693]

Just use back instead of forward to cancel cd but you have to input f n again.

[@MishimaComplex]

Yeah I’ll hopefully post something about it soon, I’ll need more PVP footage to better explain it 🤔

[@sabianfernandez497]

@@MishimaComplex I'm looking forward to it! I know the input and the theory but I never pull it off. So having something that shows how to apply it would be excellent 👌🏼

[@famusp1991]

I can’t get the second step…..I press ff after the first step and then press df and nothing happens

[@logos2324]

I‘m playing on PlayStation (normal Pad) and i use the Dpad and for me personally it‘s not that easy to wavedash. My wing god step is not that quick so I often don’t use it, and I think because of that I miss a big part of the Mishima 50/50 gameplan, I mean hellsweep is a must. Somebody got some advices how to train it properly?

[@QU141.]

Can you not wavedash with certain characters? I can't do it with Zafina

[@akuma2916]

You can only do it with the Mishimas,King and Hwoarrang only

[@chesz9769]

It's my first time doing wave dash, can I ask why it's slow for me or like any tips how to be faster?

[@seanbrown7083]

I mean there isn’t really much u can do except learn the muscle memory and practice people who do it mad fast are either putting a lot of time into the lab to get it like that or been playing tekken for years so don’t beat yourself up about it

[@chesz9769]

@@seanbrown7083 Okay thanks man

[@ryujinkaisan8581]

I have some troubles while doing it, sometimes when i do it i side step idk if you have some tips for me

[@MishimaComplex]

Sidestep will occur when tapping down then having a neutral input afterwards, double check your inputs to make sure there’s no gap between down and down forward 👍 let me know if you still need help 👊

[@ryujinkaisan8581]

thanks for the advice, i'm getting better and better at doing it

[@WhoisVonnn]

Is it better to use the d pad or joystick ? 🤔

[@qqgoblin]

D pad def

[@WhoisVonnn]

@@qqgoblinthis is probably a dumb question but does your thumb not get sore from using the D pad ?

[@qqgoblin]

@@WhoisVonnn Nah not personally but I've heard it's common, I think it might've been a KBD tutorial where the pro said u should learn to do KBDs and wavedashes with a relaxed thumb so I guess I learned.

[@WhoisVonnn]

@@qqgoblin maybe I need to do that cuz what the heck …

[@ExpanderDJ]

Thank you.

[@Maredream]

reina is very linear you can beat almost everything with swl, how do i counter swl while still staying completely safe?

[@MishimaComplex]

B2 for easy safe homing long range mid poke, should be enough to dissuade them from sidestepping, otherwise wavedash to realign your ff2 or EWGF 👍

[@adamdaw5313]

Dynasty warriors music?

[@yourfinestpillow1065]

I don't why but seeing somebody wavedash at you You were stunned and forced to move backward but ended up getting hellsweep

[@butterflybubble-qw9pb]

Japanese lever wavedash p1 handcam ?

[@shadyagent]

THank you for the tutorial. Coming from Melee learning chaining quick wavedashes is more difficult in Tekken than I expected. Still have issues with that and getting the rhythym is kind of hard

[@MishimaComplex]

Keep at it man, melee has some pretty hard tech I’m sure you’ll be a natural 😂👊

[@Odin-sn7uo]

This is hard bro

[@UnmeritedMercy]

thanks!

[@unchartedrocks1]

Instructions not clear will now begin pressing only F,F,F,F,F & hope to wavedash.

[@ksmoove6918]

I literally just did 4 without realizing 😂😂

[@jchoi9340]

It’s hard to get even the individual techniques down well and consistently like ewgf and wavedash, but linking them together and executing all of the various attacks out of them is what sends the difficulty through the roof. Kazuya is by far the hardest because he has nothing but Mishima tech to rely on. No gimmicks and no alternatives. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@lichtbach7693]

Thats why he's the secret protagonist to tekken fans lol at least for me xD

[@dannyadu123]

I'm on ps5 and i feel like wavedashing and electrics is 100x more difficult to pull off, very frustrating

[@sapphirus217]

I’m a mishima jin/mishima player from tekken 7 I always been able to wave dash but with ps5 controller now it’s impossible

[@MishimaComplex]

Yeah I get a lot more misinputs when using pad, but at the same time I find it easier to do faster once I hit the sweet spot, keep practicing! 👊

[@adam-kx7du]

Yeaaaa idk what it even accomplishes, but im gonna stick to regular running instead of breaking my hands

[@knockout_strike3383]

how to do that star

[@MishimaComplex]

Star means neutral as in let go of all inputs 👍

[@knockout_strike3383]

wow thanks it is really effective my friends cant beat me 😂 also I can now do other combos because I really dont know that star before.

[@chocochip8]

I practiced this just yesterday 😂 are you tracking me?

[@MishimaComplex]

😂

[@christopherjordan7952]

G i have no clue on wtf is going on so i guess im not fuckin with wave dash i guess still a dawg but this shit new to me i main law an bryan i do a swoop down an forward quick to knee but doubt its the same

[@KuroYagi124]

This game still s.... major a... i've been playing tekken for 5 months now and i still get beaten sometimes by idiot raijins and sometimes even fujins which should not be happening. After my tekken king promotion i had an amazing run and was 1 match away from tekken emperor. Now im stuck at bushin again. Welcome to the gambling machine :)

[@fugue6943]

You know you're playing against the nastiest sweatlord when you meet someone doing this in low ranks

[@EzioZ]

🔥🔥🔥🥋

[@mrlazy2343]

Buy a hitbox and you're ready to roll

[@ufcsuchti1493]

I cant execute it on playstation controller :/

[@Matt_Matt96]

It's possible bro keep practicing. Alot of top players use a ps controller.

[@Nativetrick]

I got passed vanquished rank

[@MishimaComplex]

Congrats my guy 👊

[@day9s]

Your voice is fkn smoove

[@day9s]

Is that an ai voice??

[@Heyprotips]

Hey

[@MishimaComplex]

Hi

[@vic3roy]

I dream of wavu wavu

[@ryuhayabusa5609]

Only STARTS to be useful in purple ranks, whe some constantly sidestep your shit...before that when people dont respect you and for characters who just mash your face in...don't use this as much :)

[@ReYsiRiDLeY]

Noice

[@macademia_p7853]

most of the people at Ganryu and up are spamming anyway 😂

[@online0227]

Keyboard is fastest

[@itucktv3219]

ngl i need u to explain that better bro u od confused me

[@seanbrown7083]

What exactly confused you?

[@CristianCastro-q2x]

Bro please respect Melee! Why don't you find a new name for that!? Melee is the GOAT and that is not what a wave dash is!