Wavestate SE & MK2 Review // 20 ideas for making the most of this interesting generative synth

[@drindy5166]

I know this isn't a major thing, however the tiny micro screen for menu diving is really sad. Of all the space on the hardware, Korg really could have improved the screen size so users aren't burning their eyesockets out trying to acheive menu options. I have the wavestate II

[@timdanyo898]

That’s where the software comes in..

[@danpreston564]

Especially as my M3 has a huge touchscreen from about 15 years ago. It’s not like Korg don’t have the technology.

[@issiewizzie]

Oh well native is more fun for me

[@SyntheticFuture]

​@@timdanyo898but then you need to have your pc running just to mess with your synth. Considering how much empty space er is on the synth I feel a bigger screen is a no brainer =x

[@dankeplace]

@@timdanyo898 it's a hardware synth, not software synth, it was designed to be use as stand alone, it's nothing more than an inadequate VST controller, a bad one at that.

[@LifeInTheLastFane]

I appreciate how, at the 14 minute mark, you scored Bjork's entire next album with a slight adjustment to a factory preset. ❤ Wonderful insights throughout as always.

[@robertsyrett1992]

Forums: "I wish korg would release a module version" Korg: "Ok, one extended keyboard coming right up!"

[@mack_solo]

...in two colours.

[@Curious_Skeptic]

True, but Korg could have made the desktop mod versions too! They had almost zero investment to do this. Drop price by maybe 100.00 and make more profit? Blows my mind how corporations function! Instead, no after touch 2k controll? Good luck on that venture. 😂

[@SuperPillage]

Lol 😂

[@ErgoBoom]

The original Wavestate has been the synth I've reached for the most often ever since I got it... So enjoyable to level up musical ideas with this instrument

[@GirlfightClub]

Still wish they made a module version

[@thablackkat9905]

Word!

[@dankeplace]

You can make your own module version, people have been cutting off the keybed.

[@straighttalk2069]

You can also buy module kits, that are reversible but not that cheap.

[@emlyfox]

I cut my keybed off, it was actually pretty simple.

[@GirlfightClub]

@@emlyfox I need a KZbin video how lol i don’t want to pay for the “kit”

[@dougjamesberwick2625]

Great review as always. I do think Korg missed an opportunity here to really make this an enhanced version... I own the mk1 and love it - no need for me to upgrade though

[@SynthoidSounds]

I just got my Wavestate about a month ago. Endless hours have since disappeared into the predawn hours as I experiment with mutated esoteric presets and creating compositions. For the price vs. range of interesting and relevant features, there's nothing else like it, at least that I know of. As always, appreciate your well articulated and detailed tutorials.

[@powermix24]

Nice review as always Loopop! I think Korg missed the boat here on the MK2, if you have MK1 it's more than enough. But hey, you got options now.

[@luigimaiello4425]

Thanks for this precious video about the features of the Wavestate Se. These keyboard is clearly a new version on the wavestation but, in my opinion, it has also something that remember the Korg Karma, one tho most underestimated keyboard of all time. 😊

[@ELLWELLE]

Very cool. Wish there was a keyless desktop version

[@bassguitar2709]

a third party mod company makes a case to house the mk1 chassis after removing the keys

[@tehedx]

@@bassguitar2709 Tall Dog Electronics, yes

[@Curious_Skeptic]

Just by a cheap laptop and vst. Still way ahead of the game! Any modern cpu can run this just fine! I am building dedicated mini desktops that will each host a single vst, dedicated midi controller, and small portable monitor. I get super advanced synths that act like hardware, but with unlimted flexibility. No brainer. If u play live, this setup still works great. If one goes down, they all don't go down unlike daw setups. 😊

[@xchalibur77]

@@Curious_Skeptic This is what Roland have done 20 years ago with MV-8800. A pc with only vst installed and good control over it.

[@Curious_Skeptic]

@@xchalibur77 exactly. Older roland gear had vga out. Even the old samplers!! Optional mouse and keyboard. Think roland had a pen pad as well. S770? Long time ago.

[@MrFunktone]

It's like nothing else I've ever heard the scope for sound creation is limitless. Great demo and examples, thanks 👍

[@Jason75913]

Just like modular synth folks may spend far more time patching a sound than they spend actually using it, lol, you may spend far more time programming a sound or performance than you actually end up using it. But if you don't already have an excellent pro romper like the Krome EX or M50, then you'll get even more use out of this baby for its great bread and butter sounds.

[@whoadog8725]

I love the sound of this synth. I hope the VST goes on sale sometime soon.

[@sub-jec-tiv]

It’s not horribly expensive even at full price. Not like some of the premium softsynths with a sample library this deep, which cost 500-600.

[@thomasinlondon2849]

There are amazing bargains to be had on the mark 1 brand new. Got mine a couple of years ago and it’s a brilliant addition to any setup.

[@stellanholgersson7170]

Nice with the full-width keyboard. Shame about all the non-utilised space for more knobs and larger screen, but OK, it would have required a new PCB and price increase, essentially a Wavestate 2.

[@tehedx]

I like to stack gear _on_ the unused space of another. Like the (unused) speakers of a stage piano. Wide enough for a 37-key synth to sit on. The front two feet rest on the stage piano, for the rear two feet you need to find something to support it (e.g., a piece of wood).

[@LEDBOO]

Aww maaaaan. Now I have to get this one too. You can now load your own samples….sweeeet. Love my Wavestate. Thank you for the review.

[@loopop]

You can load your own samples into the original wavestate too

[@jjrusy7438]

Upgrade the software version if it is an early model. (easiest with a Mac. Sheer f'ing hell on a pc)

[@LEDBOO]

@@loopop 🙏🏾 thank you

[@starglider101]

You are the best reviewer, period.

[@GirlfightClub]

HOLY SMOKES! A full keyboard???

[@drstupid1]

Any reason for that joystick placement other than to inspire an onslaught of hilarious memes? 😂

[@Itaketoomanypics]

It’s for that forth hand

[@Andronicus2007]

It is ridiculous! 😅

[@BassFunMusic]

Epic tunes, as always! Keep rocking! 🎸🔥♥

[@MarcWeertsMusic]

Fantastic synth in all versions and great demo! Slightly disappointed the Mk2 still doesn't have aftertouch - with so many cool modulation options it's just nice to be able to apply modulation by pressing the key so your other hand is free for play other synths. Still, like I said: it's a fantastic synth and the SE is awesome!

[@manny7662]

Does the SE have the same additions that the mk2 has?

[@fmagic2000able]

​@@manny7662 The SE has more voice polyphony (120 voices) whereas the Mk2 has 96 voices.

[@mad_bad_cat]

Loopop video! Korg! What a great half an hour to end my Monday on a great note! 😏

[@MichaelRohaly]

Yes, desktop-only is missing for all three of Wavestate, Modwave, and Opsix!

[@christianvandalstrom8337]

Finally. This is actually interesting. I'm not sure I like the sound but it brings something new to the market. Innovative.

[@Leo9ine]

This is such a bad deal that I feel the need to warn people. Buy the original for $500, use the remaining $1500 for a Hydrasynth. You get the same full size keyboard this adds, with poly aftertouch, *and an entire flagship synth.*

[@loopop]

Much easier to say bad things than watch the video I guess - I specifically say in the video a used MK1 is a great place to start, or the software

[@loopop]

@@djkanyon you said I get sent gear not to say things that I actually do say in the video

[@Leo9ine]

@@loopop You did, and I was agreeing! :)

[@GirlfightClub]

$2,000 for the SE. Korg’s Reverb’s store has extensive info

[@d3tuned378]

Who would overpay that much?

[@sonarfreq]

@@d3tuned378 Yeah as beautiful as the SE is, that price tag is really a little high frankly, as I don't think it brings that much more to the table than the original model.

[@RustyTonesJr]

​@@sonarfreqFor around 2 grand, I'd pick up a Kodamo Mask1 instead. Support the little guys.

[@kimzim2001]

Great synth but also a missed oportunity. The SE should have a touch screen similar to the Waldorf Iridium so you can work effectively with sound programming without the need of a computer.

[@fluoxethine]

I hate all of this blank space wasted. They could have added more controls for less menu diving. Screen also could have been bigger with touch. Wasted opportunity.

[@danpreston564]

It’s a nod to the classic 01/w, where the same terrible layout was used for all the versions.

[@jjrusy7438]

Ya, they have a lower end touch screen on their krome workstations. It isn't as responsive as the Kronos but it works just fine. So they already have the tech in place.

[@RikMaxSpeed]

The plus side is that you can easily stack other sound modules on top!😊

[@alan93]

Yes I would have thought they would have put an editor view in there but it would probably have doubled the price.

[@InFamousProductions]

Wow I was thinking yesterday that the should make a mk2 and woke up to this. I have the original and love it, my fav synth of all time, and I have owned a lot

[@lrblouie]

Amazing video as always!!!

[@jonathanaguilar710]

Loved my wavestate but I sold it. I would get so into designing cool sounds and sequences but that was also the problem with it, just too time consuming so it had to go unfortunately but maybe one day when I have all the time in the world I'll get back in lol

[@Taketaketak]

Sounds like euro. Spend all day producing sounds, not music. Not a bad thing though😊

[@mikemorrisonmusic]

Ah Loopop, one of my favorite synth demo channels.

[@sonarfreq]

Excellent as always, thank you so much for these videos.

[@codyzwick2753]

Wish they would add a master cutoff filter

[@venomslair137]

The Korg guys are on fire!!!

[@RikMaxSpeed]

I really love my WaveState of the generative music ideas it can generate, no other hardware synth can really do that, with high quality samples.

[@kptamc]

Thank you very much for the video review!

[@MurrayDagostino]

If they make an opsix in this format, I'm sold.

[@nexuzeb79]

What an intro! Like, WOW! Did you make that patch, Sir? Jawdroppingly awesome... Thanx for yet another brilliant review, Sir.

[@nexuzeb79]

Was probably two patches..

[@loopop]

Thanks! It's actually 4 patches - 1 mine, 3 factory - they're really good...

[@YanivhmTube]

Thanks for the review! 👍 I really like the wavestate 2 engine and the sounds it can make. Only thing I was missing to its engine was a send reverb. So we could have no reverb for drums or bass layers. It really just a code thing to implement, that can make this synth so much more flexibale.

[@sonickitchen]

Brilliant, thank you and nice to see the Wavestate getting some love. It is an inspiring synth. One thing, do you know if they've improved stability issues? Using WS1 live is a joy but tempered by fear of occasional inexplicable lock-ups.

[@loopop]

Thanks! I've not had this lock up at all despite extensive use, except once when I was using the Editor to save a patch to the synth

[@sonickitchen]

Thanks @@loopop. Has been reported elsewhere and acknowledged by support. Can happen when some rhythmic performances are set to hold and flipped between during a set. I guess it's a memory limit issue.

[@sub-jec-tiv]

Have had a Wavestate since they came out and use it pretty frequently and have never personally had a crash. 🤷‍♂️ ymmv

[@ferencmolnar1651]

You need two phd to understand it :) It is good but somehow I felt it is not good in any setup (with other synth) so finally I sold it. Btw there were always connection problems between the editor soft and the synth.

[@bobrobertson9547]

Glad to hear the keybed has been improved. Still, I hope Korg build a 19 inch rack version.

[@alan93]

What are the labels below the bank buttons? Why didn't you talk about those? Those are new. Good review for those that are already familiar with older ones, not so much if brand new to wavestate.

[@sonarfreq]

Just read through all of the comments and although the unused space left on top of the SE seems to be a contentious issue, I think it's an ideal spot for your mouse mat 'n mouse, or one or two of the smaller desktop module synths, like the boutiques, etc. 👍 Or even additional external effects pedals.

[@suadcokljat1045]

In EU it's 933EUR = 1019USD! It would be nice if Korg release desktop module version for mk2 following Minilogue XD example...

[@liviou2004]

Thank you loopop for this review. Now let's speak og the price : - Korg Wavestate MKII : *890 €* | Korg Wavestate SE MKII : *2,190 €* So the gap between the both : *1300 €* . 1300 € for what ? Two octaves more, 120-96 =24 voices more and aftertouch. Is there anyone here who think this deserves such a gap in price ? Except for the 24 voices, it's easy to get a 61 keys synth or master kb with aftertouch for a fraction of this price. Once more, Korg is out of range (as Korg did with the Prologue 16 wich has been a complete commercial flop, partly because of its price). If you look at this price range, there is a huge rivalry, and a some are very powerful.

[@ncapone87]

It does come with what looks like a nice case, so that's a couple hundred there... But really I don't know. It's way too much

[@sonic2000gr]

Yes the price difference is very high. Even the for MKII is too high. But I think we should wait a bit and see real street prices. I guess these are more or less MRRP.

[@captainlovett4724]

The extra plastic on the enclosure is really expensive. That’s why there’s no additional controls there to help users master this mindf**k of a sequencer, the extra holes to drill and additional pcbs and knobs and buttons would make it cost double 😅 Korg has lost it, they’re not making any meaningful updates to their hardware.

[@ncapone87]

@@captainlovett4724 the sequencer isn't that bad to use, it takes a while to get used to it but it's really fun. I have a mk1

[@nivac5227]

@@ncapone87 ...and better build quality.

[@uyscuti5376]

Yooooooo been waiting so long for the SE!;!! Happy happy

[@WhackABilly]

Good business using you for quality control, among other things.

[@The_s_d]

@KORG: my wish is an AU Version for iPadOS. imagine controlling all parameters with your finger instead of noodeling on the small hardware menu or use a mouse on the native. thx a lot for the vid 🙏🏻👌🏽 i have the native version and use it a lot

[@kevincowart362]

@nebula393iWavestation is the ultimate waiting room synth, it keeps me entertained for hours

[@museonfilm8919]

As a MK1 owner, I've been waiting for the SE, but now am not going to bother. All Korg have done is chuck the circuits into a larger box, without even considering workflow. This synth is so vast in terms of editing it needs a bigger screen - and I don't want to be tethered to a computer every time I feel inspired.

[@OklahomaDsDad]

thank you. excellent presentation

[@mack_solo]

I understand why the markII looks the same as the original - that's fine. However the premium SE model should have had a better quality screen (IMO). I'd much rather not take the compulsory stitched luggage case and instead have a better quality display. I think ASM Hydrasynths made better choices in their decisions regarding design priorities for each product tier.

[@chuckvicious]

Starting around 19:10 in the video; the shape lane on the pc interface creates an optical illusion of parallel lines going diagonal.

[@jeedmodorn5494]

Wonderful dive into this impressive instrument. Thank you loopop. I'm a Wavestate Native user but would spring for this standalone if it had a good size screen (like the one they have on Nautilus or Kronos maybe?).

[@RuiGon1]

This is a very complex synth. More complex than hydra. Thanks for the review.

[@dankeplace]

The 2 synths are totally different so cannot really be compared. You have lane sequencing on the WS and only an ARP on the HS. Then you have sample based on the WS and Wavetable on the HS. Then how you set up the modulation on the HS. Add the PAT keybed and the 2 synths aren't even comparable.

[@RuiGon1]

@@dankeplace I know. I was just referring to the degree of programming complexity. But thanks.

[@c3d3c]

Still missing the simple functionality we had in the original Wavestations where we could crossfade between the different waves within a wave sequence using a controller like the modwheel, without having to 'play back' the wave sequence. Even on the Kronos, when choosing the modwheel to control the positioning within the WaveSeq, the xFade functionality just stops working for whatever reason, enabling us to only do hard changes between the waves. I wish the Wavestate allowed us to do this too but from what I've seen (and tried) so far, it's not possible :S Only way to do such a thing with our own samples is either getting an old Wavestation and using third party cards with them or code our own software solution for it. If only they'd allow us to load custom samples in the iWavestation app on the iPad (or the WS app on the Korg Legacy version for PC/Mac) that would be perfect! :)

[@straighttalk2069]

Couldn't this be done by utilising two layers and setting up a controller like the modwheel to fade in one layer, while fading out the other layer, without having to 'play back' the wave sequence?

[@NicolaLarosa]

That's the main reason I got rid of mine. Wave sequences are strictly time-based here, cannot modulate the wave pointer with anything else than time. The other reason is that Korg keeps neglecting the MPE standard: it would have been a dream, with that limitless mod matrix, even more so on the modwave. Oh well.

[@c3d3c]

@@straighttalk2069 you can do this with using all 4 layers using the vector stick. The problem is when needing to do this with more than 4 sounds. On the Wavestation, being able to xFade between steps using a controlller meant you could xFade between even 255 sounds if you wanted to (though such a thing would exhaust the bank's limit of steps pretty quickly 😅). I was just hoping a Wavestate firmware update or the mk2 would give us step xFades on controllers rather than having to 'play back' the sequence but then again i suppose if they haven't even (fully) done it for the Kronos, what are the odds of doing it on the Wavestate? Wishfull thinking I suppose ^^

[@towardstar]

yes to this day I find it very strange they took one of the greatest sound morphing platforms of all time and evolved it into a supercharged rhythm generatror. the core idea of the original is missing.

[@c3d3c]

@@towardstar I'd think the core idea would be WaveSequences, and on that front they indeed evolved it in quite interesting ways. Still, I don't get it why they'd take such an awesome feature out :( As I said in the previous comment, they kinda let us control the sequence with a controller (without needing to 'play' it) in Kronos but when doing so the xFades get disabled. I wish they gave us that kind of functionality in either Kronos or any of the Wavestates :( If that was to happen I'd instantly buy one! I'm sure there's a lot more of us missing that kind of thing ^^

[@sonic2000gr]

I've sold my wavestate but still have the VST version. Let's wait and see where the price will settle for the SE, I'd really love one with a 5 octave keyboard. Increasing the voice count is very important, voice stealing can be very annoying at times (it will "steal" the voices from a free running rhythm causing it to stop). I am definitely tempted.

[@dankeplace]

Using a bandaid made of poo, wont improve things at all. Same horrible screen, horrible UI, 3 times asking $, workflow is abysmal without the software. This isn't even a good MIDI controller by any stretch of the imagination.

[@Curious_Skeptic]

Buy a good midi controller with aftertouch. Don't waste money on this kit! Makes zero logical sense imho. How does Korg miss aftertouch? Worse, that stupid screen! In 2023 not to include a vibrant touch screen is really sad and worth passing on. I can bang out a long list of better spent money. Take the price of mk2, subtract from se, and divide that by number of additional keys, equal just how much you paid per key. Lol. To help cut to the chase, $54. per additional key😂. Likewise, 700 x 3 at 2100.00 is about the cost of one SE wavestate. No matter how u cut it, lame. Zero justification for price vs value!

[@glenc3249]

This is definitely at the top of my bucket list for next year. My very close friend 'ex' will have a duckfit at me if I got one this year...... after only recently getting a Deepmind 12 and a Korg PA 600 a year ago ;- ;-)

[@MrPerfectpizza]

I have the Mk1, but surely after the release of the Native version, don’t all of these just become fancy controllers?

[@Curious_Skeptic]

Fancy? My $200.00 midi controller has after touch and at least 2.5 times to knobs and sliders. Lol. This is 100% a limited audience product. I am not sure who that audience is, but they must be out there.

[@NavelOrangeGazer]

They really should have made a module version so I could control it with my hydrasynth deluxe... When is the Opsix MKII coming...

[@Psychlist1972]

25:10 Techno Viking has been summoned!

[@gz625]

Wait... They didn't add separate audio outputs for parts neither in MK2 and SE?? Strange decision

[@dustop3r]

As always, well executed review. Thank you! Can not understand why they did not add a bigger screen ... Hm, does this imply that there will be an Opsix MKII???

[@sonarfreq]

I'm not sure the Opsix was that popular sadly (although I bought one just before it was discontinued). The Modwave MKII though might be a possibility?

[@renegrautstueck3468]

A bigger screen and input/sample section would have been nice. Probably 2/3 of the hardware is empty.

[@shogunai]

I havent watched this yet, but for 2 grand I better be bloody impressed! lol

[@GirlfightClub]

I’m not gonna fall for thinkin the button lights are actually purple irl this time ….

[@geoffreymerrifield5666]

Great video as always Senior L Pop. Curious, do you have patches/libraries for Moog Subsequent 37?

[@loopop]

Thanks! Sorry no I don't

[@BubbaSatori]

Desktop modules please Korg. 🙏🏻

[@agm8763]

It's a very interesting piece of hardware, It's a shame that the unit still has very limited integration with the native VST in your DAW, otherwise; I think it would be a lot more popular for people who work both in and outside of the box.

[@loopop]

The Native plugin works nicely within a DAW

[@mtnoblesavage]

Love my Wavestate and Modwave,

[@EdgyNumber1]

Korg sounds ❤

[@DonnDeVoreMusic]

nice. I wish there was a 19" rack version.

[@aristotlekumpis7095]

For everyone complaining about the screen, just buy the vst for $200. But the hardware sounds so much better than the vst. I use my Wavestate with the librarian and it’s awesome.

[@ktreier]

I think Korg missed multiple multiple opportunities and made mistakes here. 1) why not move the UI to the left or right to open the space for something else in the same why the Hydrasynth Deluxe does 2) as you said why not include a bigger screen 3) the placement of the joystick is not conducive to performance 4) the lack of additional I/O is a disappointment 5) finally polyphonic aftertouch key beds are clearly dropping in price so why wasn’t one included. I think the market would support a higher price point for many of these features and it would compete with synths like the Iridium Keyboard for functionality, but a different type of synthesis of course. It’s tough to see how when one of the controller manufacturers releases a polyphonic aftertouch product (looking at you @Arturia) the smart move isn’t that plus Wavestate Native and not this box of missed opportunities. @Korg, I’ve had a preorder in since the SE was announced well over a year ago but I’m canceling it.

[@NicolaLarosa]

They still didn't add the per-layer reverb sends? Weird, the modwave has had them since the beginning, and it has only two layers rather than four, so they would be even more useful here.

[@llukhash]

It is a cool synthesizer but it is a nightmare to program it. Still sounds great.

[@enochroot9438]

Can you adjust the sensitivity of the after-touch to increase it?

[@loopop]

I may have missed it but there's no global way to adjust it. You can of course change the mod depth of aftertouch every time you assign it to something

[@xgskrillax]

Man.. Korg just putting controls on there in same size / spacing as 37 key is just lazy and looks pretty bad. They charge so much more for the SE they really should have spread them out and gave it a bigger screen. Honestly very lazy of them to not use all that extra space.

[@gossamyr]

Kinda disappointed the mkII non-SE didn't have AT, and given the quality of the keys on my mkI, that should have been addressed as well. sigh. I do not agree with their pricing at all (Novation and Arturia, opportunity knocking hint hint!). Great vid though, man. ::edit watching your hands over the SE, I kinda thought of the radias(all that wasted space), woulda been a severely cool thing to 'modualize' the 3 units and re-invent the radias/m3 thang...

[@charthers8903]

Don’t know why but older synths sound so much more rich and powerful

[@jjrusy7438]

At its heart, wavestate is a sample player. It processes small samples into all kinds of new sounds. So if this sounds like a vst, it basically is. It also doesn't sound as good as a proper workstation/rompler which are optimized sample players. But, like Z says: Wavestate does things nothing else can. It sequences sequences and IMO, conceptually, the most complex synth on earth.

[@straighttalk2069]

I totally disagree. I think you are comparing apples and oranges. No older synth can do what the Wavestate does and it actually sounds rich and powerful to me, connected directly through my studio monitors. You can't judge it through a KZbin video.

[@museonfilm8919]

@@straighttalk2069 Also, Wavestate can do 'round robin' synthesis. Meaning that each time you press a key it can introduce subtle (or not) pitch and sample changes, much like the architecture of a Prophet 5 or OBXa. Works for me!!

[@davidbanner9001]

Poly-Aftertouch, no! A missed opportunity. Basically a more powerful CPU for the extra voices and that's it. But still a great synth that I would like in my little studio.

[@phiniusjwhippy]

Maybe get the wavestate mkII and buy a controller with Poly AT?

[@hoagy_ytfc]

I’m surprised at the pricing of the SE, seems pretty steep to me.

[@kptamc]

A couple of reasons. It is made in Japan instead of Vietnam and it comes shipped in its own hard case.

[@hoagy_ytfc]

@@kptamc And let's face it, the built-in display is a joke. There's a good reason why Loopop's video includes so much of the display from the s/w so we can actually see what's going on.

[@kptamc]

@@hoagy_ytfc Dan Phillips has given a really good reason why Korg has stayed with those displays across product lines. The Drumlouge has one and it could use a larger display as well. It has to do with price and reliability.

[@gunark]

Wonder if this is using a Raspberry Pi CM4 instead, and if so could original owners update theirs with a CM4? Edit: nope, different shapes.

[@AmbientSound7]

Great presentation! Your thoughts on Wavestate SE vs. Opsix SE for Ambient music and ease of use. Thank you.

[@loopop]

Thanks! For ambient music, I'd lean towards Wavestate personally - both are easy to use if you're just playing the presets an endless rabbit hole of textures and complexity if you're willing to dive in

[@Seekthetruth3000]

Why is the screen so small!? Beautiful demo.

[@Jason75913]

idiocy is why 🫤

[@Kkidzz]

Obtained eight weeks ago.....

[@wesleyforman8391]

So glad I got the hydra synth for its poly after touch and utilization of its actual size unlike this which has 75% empty space. Also wave state, opsix, mod Wave all have native VST and can import banks just as easily so I rather use my CPUs processing power then whatever this thing is that maxes out almost at 120 voices that's crazy.

[@Wagoo]

pffft.. I hope you grilled Korg on why there is no 19" rackmount compatible desktop module _still_

[@dankeplace]

they said a saw and some tape on the old OG uint.

[@ZanBizar]

Menu diving is back

[@dankeplace]

charge 3 times more the same screen, less than double voice count, and throw it into a metal chassis, that's piss poor value imo.

[@jenssonntag908]

Hi, maybe I missed this but are there slots for saving presets that you have edited, and if so how many?

[@loopop]

yes, and I don't remember by heart but alot plus there's a librarian

[@jenssonntag908]

@@loopop Thx for prompt answer. The machine is in the mail (module). :)

[@simonburns1055]

comes in colours ? purple, gold, hogs bristle?

[@raysubject]

aah, they made it bigger instead of making desktop without keys, for us with small space 😢

[@rtomas47]

They announced the big one two years ago. Seems like people wanted it.

[@razeu482]

What are the best overall synths/workstations in your opinion?

[@loopop]

There's no such thing, its about what you need to get done and the sounds you want

[@dankeplace]

Wait what? Teased in 2021 but finally being released? I wonder if the newer patches with AT will be released on the OG model?

[@ShawnBrandon888]

How do you back everything up?

[@loopop]

There's a librarian software

[@edjefferson9175]

Beautiful machine. If the control panel was move over left of center there would be room for another instrument or iPad to sit on top. Same problem I have with the NI KK S61 keyboard controller. Wasted space.

[@federicovalmassoni3827]

Beautiful dream that must come true 😊 A question, if I have Wavestate SE hardware and I should want to use it as a unique sound generator for various midi tracks in my DAW, may I assign each sound to a specific midi channel in order to use many of them contemporaneously? (About sound I mean a combination of multiple layers and not a single layer)

[@loopop]

No, it can only run one set of up to 4 layers (performance) at a time. But in that case why not just use the plugin

[@federicovalmassoni3827]

@@loopop Ok so, you are telling me that theWavestate Native can do what I described? If yes I will use the software but...I loved the Wavestation and I didn't get it on 90's and I really want to have the new baby 🥰 For my needs I can use the plugin if it works for this ...but with future hardware anyway 😊 I would have preferred to save money😂

[@loopop]

@@federicovalmassoni3827 you can use as many instances of the native plug-in as you want as long as your CPU will allow

[@federicovalmassoni3827]

@@loopop Thanks for your confirmation 👍🏻🙂

[@Jexus]

ok now I might finally get one. ps. will there be a modwave & opsix SE?;)

[@loopop]

Would love to hear what you do with it! Re the others unfortunately I couldn’t say even if I knew

[@liamdonaldson6449]

Why do they not include a port out for video to an iPad or android tablet running the visuals from Wavestate? That tiny screen sucks

[@TheMachinesWon]

Korg always giving the ppl 80% of what they want…wouldn’t it have been better if they spread the controls out to make the synth feel more comfortable instead of putting the original in a bigger keyboard? Seems like a missed opportunity. Really hope they don’t mess this up if they do a large opsix