Bad Gear - Korg Wavestate

[@AudioPilz]

Audiopilz: *slaps roof of YT channel* Full Tracks, Extended Jams, Sample Packs: www.patreon.com/audiopilz Follow me on Instagram: instagram.com/audio.pilz/

[@TheSpectralArtisan]

Just bought an old Roland W-30, dont know if you have already reviewed one... but with the need for as stack of old floppy disks to load on separate patches- personally however upgraded to the less antiquated emulator usb drive... there are 8 separate output ports on the rear and well... its a good time🤪

[@TheKorgborg]

Korg RK-100S 2 Red, u know you want to, please where an Japan headband when doing the episode, if it isnn't bad gear you can always make a campy bad, gear revieuw abouot it, its just how you put the punctioation

[@flomojo2u]

I bought a WS MkII thanks to this video... It's amazing. I got it off eBay for $500 in brand-New condition, though it was listed as having been opened. I haven't tried to use the plug-in discount code, so perhaps it was that cheap for a reason, but I'm more than happy with the hardware. Being tied to a PC was never my use case. Thanks to BG for helping to grow my collection!

[@cautionseaman]

It may have something to do with growing up during the 90s but the sounds and sequences that come from the station/state seem to just naturally resonate with me on a semi-subconscious level. No other synth does that for me.

[@AudioPilz]

I can relate to that!

[@bitterpearls]

I feel this. I want to returnnnn

[@qpasas]

thats true

[@BeatsByJarel]

Same

[@cemgulpunk]

true and Roland JP8000.

[@jeffjfindley4802]

The blend of affection/contempt/humor that you convey on this channel is untouchable. I literally had weeping spells beginning around 5 min.

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!!!

[@vvcv__00]

It's a successful KZbin format. Fast edits of randomness, with attempts at sarcasm and/or bad irony. Just look up the top channels. Personally, I can't stand it, and would rather watch a music professor, but hey, people seem to love it so kudos!

[@AnalogOne-jams]

You are absolutley right that editing takes up as much of my time as pausing your videos to read the memes 😂

[@AudioPilz]

It’s true;)

[@NeoMorphUK]

Plug it into the computer and it makes the awkward menu diving go away. It’s awesome. I love my Wavestate MkII.

[@joonglegamer9898]

Hey that's my synth :) Well I got the 64 Poly version. But it's not as bad as a lot of people seem to think. It's lightweight, which means you can use it on your lap or in bed, or in a chair/sofa etc, and you'd want to if you wanna learn it and dive deep. And Deep it is! One of the things I've hoped for is that since it's Raspberry Compute module 3B based - is that Korg would eventually let the modding community have at it, meaning release the Synth for Open Source modding, that would place Korg in the history of synths nicely, would be a good idea. I was one of the lucky early adopters that got it for about 500$ so that wasn't that expensive to me, but 1000$ ? thats a hard sell, nevermind 2300$ that's an impossible sell. Especially since it's very cheap to build with a processor that was created for bedroom developers to begin with. What I like about it is actually the knobs. You can program 8 of them to do anything you want, any parameter can be set to those 8 white knobs you see there, so you can literally create your own "customized synth", because it does have a LOT of parameters to adjust. You can "simulalte midi-delay", which means you can simulate an old synth setup you've seen in a 80s music video, for example I re-created the intro FM'ish synth from Europe's "Carrie" song to perfection, and it took 30 mins to do so - in fact, once you know how to operate this synth, it's actually incredibly intuitive, because every know is menu-context sensitive, meaning - you twist a knob, and it will directly take you to the corresponding menu - no need to dive too much, just learn that workflow and you'll be up and running faster than imagined, this is new to most traditional synth owners since they are used to the old way of menu diving, most synths don't have a "direct-from-knob-to-menu" functionality this one have, goes for ModWave too! But yeah, I agree that it could easily have been sold for 300$ and it would have been a huge hit. The most appealing thing about this synth is exactly the layout and knobs (minus the dinky display, which is oled, and prone to line-failure, missing / garbled lines in the display) sadly. But here's a protip for those who complains about it having too thin sound: If you go to the reverb menu settings, and scroll down, there's a secret - the HQ FILTER settings, here you can adjust the entire frequency range and get as much OOMPF as you'd ever want or your speakers can handle. Very little known well hidden secret, enjoy!

[@AudioPilz]

I'd love to see a HackState too!!!

[@piggosalternateaccount4917]

Many KZbinrs i've never been early enough to be watching during their height but AudioPilz is already going damn strong and only at 100k - much further to go, fuckin awesome channel

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!!!

[@JeffPalmer83]

The trick with the hardware is that the knobs change the display to whatever they relate to. I love programming sounds on the Wavestate hardware!

[@AudioPilz]

Agreed!!!

[@BeatsByJarel]

Same here man ..ath the beginning was really hard to program when I first got it on 2021...but I been practicing everyday since.. I make some great patches on it .. I had read the manual like 30 times already😂... wavestate requires alot knowledge is not for everybody

[@cyberwarfare9118]

The last jam was incredible. This thing is certainly one of the most powerful synths ever made if you know what you're doing.

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!!!

[@BeatsByJarel]

❤

[@lukeautosymbol2668]

Yea, definitely one of AP's better jams

[@michaelbarakat3856]

I appreciate the tongue-in-cheek and also that some of this is very true commentary.

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!!!

[@ChrisSmout]

Really digging the Retro Goth Rave track, particularly as I've been playing a lot of Cyberpunk lately!

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!!!

[@Njal55]

Brilliant. I'm a guitar player, but this is the only YT channel I watch every week without fail. Pausing Florian's videos to see the memes killed me :) Keep it up!

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!!!

[@kevinguaman525]

Amazing synth and great demos, I was about to get a Wavestate but after realizing the complex it is I decided to go for the modwave, massive video as always 👏👏

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!!!

[@mwhitelow9312]

Same, I opted for the Modwave as well.

[@garyhendrie4001]

You should have lived back in the days of synths like the DX7 et al. Now those kind of synths were difficult to programme lol.

[@kevinguaman525]

@@garyhendrie4001 yeah I could imagine that just watching how's dexed is, also many digital synths in that years

[@simonbecker748]

@@garyhendrie4001 I had the pleasure of using a DX11 for a few months. Great synth but programming usable patches was nearly impossible, so I gave up on doing that and tried to produce the most metallic and distorted sounds possible. Actually worked out great and I made a few extremely brutal industrial tracks with it. Kind of sad that I got rid of it when money was tight.

[@stevekirkby6570]

I don't believe this falls into the category of bad gear. Love it, and the Modwave.

[@straighttalk2069]

It doesn't but korgs BAD PRACTISE of creating a plugin version that is identical to the hardware only months after the initial launch of the hardware was so bad it was evil.

[@VestedUTuber]

@@straighttalk2069 Is that really a problem? VSTs and hardware synths are technically separate parts of a market, and even if a VST for a synth exists a lot of people are still hardware die-hards. I know I'd rather have physical knobs to turn than have to faff about with a mouse and virtual knobs.

[@VestedUTuber]

There's quite a few bad gear episodes on gear that isn't actually bad, but to get on the show a piece of gear just has to have a sufficiently large amount of complaints. Sometimes a synth is great but has an odd quirk that some people can't look past (Roland TB-3), or has a bit of a learning curve (Moog DFAM), or just happens to be difficult to fit into the current trendy genre (Novation Bass Station 2), or might be limited compared to significantly more expensive synths even if it's perfectly fine for its price point (the entire Korg Volca line).

[@DubElementMusic]

​​@@VestedUTuber because this cheap synths are basically a vst with controller and not a real analog synth, this is the reason why they sound so clean, boring and flat.

[@VestedUTuber]

@@DubElementMusic Preference aside, there's nothing wrong with having a clean sound. And as for sounding "flat and boring", nine times out of ten that's a skill issue, not the fault of the synth. At the end of the day, synths are musical instruments - tools for producing sound. Would you call the violin a bad instrument because it doesn't sound like a tuba?

[@wiidlbeetle3857]

I always get excited for a new episode of European synthesizer man!

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!!!❤️❤️❤️

[@GoneComposer]

You're videos are like the Korg Wavestate MkII : beautiful outside, incredibly deep and rich, delightful inside (yes I love this synth)

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!!!

[@rogerioamorim8057]

I love how these videos of “bad gear” usually end up with great sounding demos using the gear under evaluation. 😅👍 I know that there’s the plug-in version, but I ended up buying the Wavestate Module. 😀 I (really) don’t need any more keybeds in my room, and the module is the same as the “SE” version, but in a rack format. I really love the kind of sounds that this synth/romper does.

[@patrickfitzgerald2861]

An accurate assessment Florian, but for a hobbyist like me the presets in my MK I version on their own provide a stunning palette of highly customizable sounds, and the UI works very well with all of them - no need to resort to the editor. Finally, used MK I Wavestates can now be had for around US $400 in great condition, which makes this machine a great deal in my view.

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!!

[@3rdPersonProductions]

There are lots of “crazy” purchases on our list, plug-in-wise. This one is on there. Definitely seems better adapted to the plug-in format in its functionality than in the physical. Thank you for this content we love it!!

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!!!

[@SonicVibe]

keep climbing the algorithm my friend much deserved !

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!!!

[@JGlassy]

Great job Florian! What a cacophony of wonderful features and quirky, self imposed limitations. For now, the VST indeed looks like it wins.😊

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!!

[@danwentz]

Great stuff! I have the Modwave and Opsix. Especially when used live, the advantage with hardware versions are they allow you to seemlessly change patches while holding down keys.

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!! Agreed!!!

[@pratyulmusic]

Which among Modwave, opsix and Wavestate would you say is easier to operate ?

[@danwentz]

@@pratyulmusic Korg did an amazing job on all of them, but Opsix is probably the easiest to operate, but it isn't as deep. Modwave being a combination of subtractive/wavetable synth with sampling is the most complex of the three.

[@pratyulmusic]

@@danwentz thank you

[@AlexNes]

Who else had the kneejerk reaction that Florian was going to play Join Me from HIM at 1:17? :D

[@conradtm]

It's interesting to see the direction some of these synths end up going with their UX. The underlying mantra I was always taught was "be friendly to both experts and novices alike," but much of the time it feels like they either leave the experts to menu dive on a early 00s cell phone screen or they leave the novices to be overwhelmed by the complexity. Often both.

[@zurlocker1]

It is strange to me that when they went to MK II and the SE larger keybed they didn't expand the size of the screen.

[@systemicchaos3921]

I feel so lucky with my novation summit when I see some of these synths. Menu diving can be such a chore

[@presteign1113]

This, IMO, is the biggest downside of the single platform shared by Wavestate, Opsix, and Modwave. The Opsix UX fits beautifully within the constraints posed by its screen, but once you move from FM to wave sequencing, it’s not quite enough. Now a Wavestate with the screen from a Korg Nautilus…

[@JonesyTheCat]

Is something similar to Wavestate available in Nautilus?

[@AudioPilz]

It’s quite a challenge

[@Iceleben]

I love both the Plug-In and Hardware. Preproduction on the Plug In, export to HW and you can play live with it… great concept and I would love to own the SE but it’s way to expensive

[@AudioPilz]

Nice approach!!!

[@Soundwrecker]

FINALLY my continuous pausing of your videos to read the memes has been referenced in a meme! I had to hit pause twice to read that one.!

[@AudioPilz]

❤️❤️❤️

[@brianschiller4053]

The Wavestation is my favorite digital synth. I got a Wavestate hoping to recreate my favorite Wavestation patches before the old synth gives up. They do require a lot of time and menu diving to create your own sequences. You are 100% right about the Wavestate keybed being crap!

[@EHiggins]

It feels so weak and mushy XD

[@auralplex]

Yeah it’s garbage

[@amb13nt59]

I have an original Wavestate, and am very disillusioned by it in general. Just three years after buying it, something has happened with pitch control; any performance will, out of the blue, go wonky with pitch. This is literally the junkiest piece of gear I’ve ever had…and I’m a huge Kori fan.

[@AudioPilz]

👍👍👍

[@23bit76]

A flimsy piece of plastic very disappointed

[@WarrenPostma]

This channel is SO great. Love the memes and the solid musical sensibility. Also I died from laughing. The samples library of a bedroom producer. Ski Jam is the best preset of all time. Sue me. Jam at 7:36 is an all time great sounding track. Also sounds maybe like it came from a Genos2 style. Soooo. Do Genos2 soon?

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!!!

[@Pablo668]

I mean, I’d happily have one of these if it was thrown at me. That last jam was epic. The first one you did sounded like a mistake at first, but then you did the thing all good musicians do, repeated it until it sounded normal.

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!! Great feedback!!!

[@tehedx]

Yes, finally somebody who shows that this synth CAN be used for snappy and choppy sounds. Of course it is a go-to synth if you're looking for long self evolving sounds, but the machine seems so versatile to me that I didn't doubt it could be useful in house like styles. Probably possible to backport the good old M1 sounds too.

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!!

[@MyWorstEnemyIsMyself]

Dude that Jojo's referecence at the end is godlike!!!!!!!! going to watch it forever until my ears and eyes bleeds, thank you for you funny stuff as usual buddy.

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!!!

[@zurlocker1]

Great review. That second jam sounded like Jean Michel Jarre! Now we know his secret weapon!

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!!

[@vbarr67]

"Pausing Florian's video to read the memes" lol :D I have to go backwards so much to re-listen to the full sentences because I keep pausing and loose track :D But they're so funny ! Great video again, thank you for your hard word that is so refreshing !

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!!

[@marcbrasse747]

The hardware might be “mwaah” but the sound is truly expensive. I totally underestimated it until I found Maik Schott’s channel. Especially his Trevor Horn soundset blows my mind. It’s the first time I have actually contemplated to buy a synth specifically for a soundpack! Need I say more!😎

[@-The-Darkside]

I find his sounds massively overrated. Very thin compared to real synths. I have one and some of his packs.

[@KA0T]

Same. He sold me the wavestate.

[@marcbrasse747]

@@-The-Darkside all a matter of taste, I gues. 😁

[@AudioPilz]

Nice, gotta check it out!!!

[@soilentmichi]

Wieder einmal phantastisch, kurzweilig, informativ, sehr geil vielen Dank

[@AudioPilz]

Vielen Dank!

[@TokyoScarab]

Great video! I wanted one of these for the absolute longest time. Then I got to try one in person at a Guitar Center and god........ it leaves a lot to be desired in the build quality. For $700 we should expect something that doesn't feel like a big Korg Volca! I actually ended up just saving some money and buying a Wavestation A/D and a card to let me load my own samples. Absolutely zero regrets! The wavestate plugin is a bunch of fun though! I honestly was hoping the SE version would just use a big LCD screen with the interface of the plugin. Sadly korg didn't wanna make the SE too nice. :P

[@AudioPilz]

Yeah, the pricing is a deal breaker here

[@sasarasa88]

when they sold the original opsix at $330 in the US that felt like the right price for these builds

[@TokyoScarab]

@@sasarasa88 That's a much more reasonable price tag, honestly.

[@teamphil]

At this rate, it will be 40% sometime next year. Just hold out

[@davlippo7]

Bad gear called, he wants his WaveState back! I got the SE Platinum I love this thing sooo shiny and real keys too.

[@jona_KardCiv1]

I actually bought this, and then returned it. It sounded great and did some really cool stuff. It was a nightmare to program though. You don't sound design it. It designs you.

[@GrootsieTheDog]

Software blows away hardware for its ability to make accessible to all, the wonderful world of synthesizers. The Buchla, the Prophet 5, Jupiter 8, Mercury 4, the wavestate...through the magic of software, I can explore all these amazing synths that have been developed through out history. It's a joy that never gets old. Especially when I dish out $50-$100 for a $5000.00 synth. Truly grateful for the technology 😊

[@AudioPilz]

Agreed!!!

[@SkyWolfZero]

I love my Wavestate….but yeah, I find the plug-in much easier to use to generate patches.

[@AudioPilz]

Yeah, a plugin fits the synth philosophy perfectly

[@Bod8998]

I concur

[@mb102]

Akai miniak was the first to make me feel like 20 cheap ass knobs and faders would be better than two to 4 tank like pieces. Wavestate is not at all a pickup and play tool. I own one amd still have not scratched the surface....I get too lost in re tooling what's there to even begin to make from scratch... I need to sit down and set it up for reggae, boom bap, techno..just don't fully get how to do so. Still fun....I think they are asses for not adding a cheap ass dvi port to hook to a touch screen or TV just saying...and mk2 ain't even a real mk2 oh well still love it

[@mb102]

Also said all this before watching lol😂😂

[@CatenationIndustrial]

​@@docwhammoUse AI for what?

[@Dubsteppah]

One of the best and most fun music channels on all of KZbin. I can only dream of getting my hands on most of these pieces of kit.

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!!!

[@johnnythreshold]

Nice to see you getting interviewed these days ;)

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!!

[@ysteinsondrup9394]

Finally I'm ahead! This time the review came after my purchase 😅 Got the plugin though, and I love it 😀

[@AudioPilz]

Nice!!!

[@ShaunBartone-e8w]

Ok Florian, I have the first Wavestate ($425 used) and the VST. They don't sound the same, and I prefer the sound of the hardware. I also have the Wavestation VST, and Wavestate is definitely a successor but goes well beyond it. Korg and Yamaha are about the only companies still making multi-timbral synths or 'workstations'. Yes, it's 90s style sounds, but hey, the 90s were fucking awesome, compared to the Lost Decade of the Millennium when music all but died. The Wavestate is my Psybient, Psytrance synth, and it does a fantastic job with those genres. Playing it is pure enjoyment (the keyboard is just fine); it's my 'desert island' synth. Loved your final jam!

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks for the heads up!!!

[@carloslavina9779]

nice thing the new comments over black background. love ur videos

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!! Night mode FTW!!!

[@andrewlecouteurbisson7217]

That "Gameboy Display" is "War & Peace" to Roland's usual efforts :)

[@AudioPilz]

Lol, so true

[@tonystevenson26]

Ensoniq Mirage was the best screen, ever !

[@shthouserat]

i knew my project would make it to this channel eventually! (the volca in the cavity)

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you for that one!!!

[@yeahright73]

NGL, I loved my Wavestation EX. I love my Wavestate even more. Should it be your only synth? Probably not, but I suppose you could make do, it's more versatile than you would think. It's still the most epic evolving pad and drone machine this side of a eurorack rig.

[@AudioPilz]

That sums it up nicely!!!

[@jamesdefrancesco7765]

I still have my EX!

[@yeahright73]

@@jamesdefrancesco7765 I seriously considered keeping mine, but the backlight was gone and I was able to trade it for the Wavestate even up so...yeah. Is it exactly the same, no, does it fill the same niche, yep. That said, I cranked out some seriously deranged sounds with my EX!

[@yeahright73]

@@AudioPilz, when are you going to take the Eurorack plunge and do an episode on the Cre8audio NiftyBundle?

[@pontram]

As so often on your channel - wonderful tracks ! Thanks for the priceless lesson !

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!!!

[@amethystlegion]

100% agree - Wavestate Native and Modwave Native are awesome, but the hardware synths - my impression is I would probably actually be using the software to program them too, and not the knobs and buttons.

[@AudioPilz]

😀😀😀

[@omedome2787]

My wavestate keeps surprising me, love it, sounds great. Build quality not very good and frustrating to edit but worth it.

[@justjoeblow420]

Oh god I feel called out about the pausing to read the meme's thing being hidden in a meme. Well played meta fuck about on your part. I still want one, but then again half the reason I want a Korg Nautilus was for the Wave sequencing support on it.

[@AudioPilz]

These workstations are quite a rabbithole

[@justjoeblow420]

@@AudioPilz I know and I really like them for that, but apparently that makes me weird in some folks eyes.

[@thewistfulsnail]

The sounds you achieved from this synth go beyond my comprehension! There are some synths I know I'm not ready for and this is one of them!

[@DoctorNemmo]

You'll never be ready for the Wavestate. The Wavestate will be ready for you.

[@AudioPilz]

Definitely worth accepting the challenge

[@djdarksidejungle559]

yes the only synthesizer that i actually fell in love with and got mine sat right nextr to me turned on best thing i like about this synth is the one finger jams cause it is eseentially a 4 peice band really and the modulation as well thats a whole new level ive had mine 3 yeares and im just a bit better trhen a novice but i love it me for making banging techno jams

[@AudioPilz]

1 finger jams 4 life!!!

[@djdarksidejungle559]

@@AudioPilz it does them so well thats why i love it me

[@patrickfitzgerald2861]

Yep . . . 👍👍👍

[@djdarksidejungle559]

@@AudioPilz well you know dan phillips anyway wahat a guy man me and him argue about ukraine but its dan phillip0s brain child so big shout out to dan phillip0s for been so awesome and coming up with wavestate

[@-The-Darkside]

Same bud , for solo artists it's pretty great. I do have fun setting up 4 patches with the key parameters and bringing in new sounds as you play. Once the sounds are on you don't need a computer to play it etc.

[@shnixbot]

Dear FlowRyan, one of your best videos/jams! I dig that 90s goth you name it thing. Love it, love you. Your Piefke from another border ❤

[@AudioPilz]

Vielen Dank!!!

[@mutablebody]

My bad gear infinity gauntlet nears completion... I've owned two of these. Sold the first because it was buggy and made me mad, despite the fact that it does things expensive workstation keyboards don't do. Missed it enough to trade for another one, even though I had the plugin. The button/knob layout makes programming modulation really fun! Pretty hard to find good orchestral multisamples in a portable keyboard. Also, modulating the speed of the timing lane can make it go so fast that it crashes. Normally the "speed" multiplier only goes up by 2-4x at most, but you can send it modulation from one of the knobs that go to 600x. Riding the wave of 98% CPU usage delivers some really wild tones. It's like DFAM's tempo knob cranked all the way up, but then you slow it down and reveal not pounding analog drums, but saxophone squawks and the sounds of people screaming, and like swords and stuff. This thing sucks. It's one of my favorite synths.

[@AudioPilz]

"This thing sucks. It's one of my favorite synths." - spot on!!!

[@autecheee]

9:37 You have validated my purchase a year ago (Wavestate Native software)….which I do not regret and still am amazed at generating B.edazzling A.spirational D.iminsions of sonic tones and chopped sequences with this software gear. My fav. For generating Berlin TD sequences and pad.

[@AudioPilz]

Nice!!!

[@Blackholeheart]

I think Florian is spying on my package deliveries, he keeps making videos about devices right after I buy one.😆

[@AudioPilz]

You know too much

[@tonystevenson26]

Look outside your window, UPS is out there

[@stevenormandin2059]

be AWARE you might be BLACKMAILED by the EVIL god of SYNTH ! LOL :)

[@djreddy666]

My man! This is THE best Channel EVERRRRRRRR! Love your stuff man 🙂

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!!!

[@DonLuca27]

That second jam was out of this world, absolute banger!

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!!

[@SmallWorldBigThings]

I like these medium/small size series of synths from Korg.... a lot of nice and unique functions... and sound always is very "usable". Multitembrality in Wavestate is nice feature every synth should have (at least these digital should have)... however the keyboard is a huge downside of this devise. Good review!

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!!

[@petermgruhn]

I'm not sure '"usable'" is the praise you might think it to be.

[@SmallWorldBigThings]

@@petermgruhn I know what are prices for these synths.

[@jezza8558]

Great episode as usual! I had a wavestate, I loved it and hated it with equal measure. It was everything I wanted but didn't have the time to learn in a box 😄 I much prefer the VST and as soon as It came out I sold my hardware version. I personally think it will be a classic but its its menu diving will forever be a thorn in its cheaply made plastic side.

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!!!

[@-The-Darkside]

That's cool if it want to turn your computer and stare at a screen on every time you want to play music.

[@patkelly8309]

@@-The-Darkside " A Screen-On "" Sounds a bit rude

[@Leiska27]

Thank you! Now I can truly feel satisfied with my financial decisions.

[@AudioPilz]

Always a pleasure;)

[@Dudderlyful]

A friend let me use his for a bit and it was impenetrable. Homestly not very fun to use but kudos to Korg for making it. The plugin is the way to go for sure though! Happy Friday! No more work for the year! 😊

[@AudioPilz]

Have a nice weekend!!!

[@jamesmcn0000]

I suspect the Wavestate's "cheap" plastic case will stand up at least as well as the Poly800. Korg knows how to make low cost synths.

[@PorchBass]

I've had 3 poly 800s and gave up trying to keep them working

[@AudioPilz]

Poly800 is made for postapocalyptic use;)

[@EHiggins]

I waited so long for this during Covid. I open up the box and there is a piece of cardboard stuck to it saying "Hey try random!". That was pretty much all the documentation you got. The rest was electrical warnings.

[@AudioPilz]

Lol, still better than a Roland manual

[@EHiggins]

@@AudioPilz true

[@hermask815]

I really hate the fact that my blood pressure monitor has a bigger display while being significantly cheaper. So don’t give me the BS that displays are a part that would have boosted the costs on Opsix, modwave and wavestate. And the resolution on my Casio calculator also seems higher.

[@AudioPilz]

True that!

[@slipknotboy555]

Great as always! The Wavestates are pretty appealing to me, despite some of the shortcomings. The Modwave seems pretty cool, too. Not that I have the money for them, though, heh.

[@DankePlace]

Wavestate is a horrible synth to program, you need to have it tethered to a pc for best results. If you can get an OG unit cheap, then it's a good machine to get some variations, but that 2 inch screen is horrible. I wouldn't touch the SE which is 3 times what I paid for an OG unit and sounds exactly the same, diff is AT and extra voices, certainly not worth 4 times more.

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!!

[@slipknotboy555]

@@DankePlace Yeah, there's no way I'd get one of the SEs/similar (unless money was no object to me). But the UI of the Wavestate is at least a lot more hands on than that of the Wavestation. And even if I'd use the software for editing (which I'm not even sure about) - hey, at least that's an option. But again, I don't even have the money for a synth right now, haha

[@DankePlace]

@@slipknotboy555 The Wavestate is much better than the Wavestation for UI BUT it only has 4 lanes of sequencing vs 8. The software with the Wavestate is the only real way to program and is a breeze to do so, on that 2 inch screen it's a nightmare.

[@slipknotboy555]

@@DankePlace Yeah, that makes sense

[@InFamousProductions]

So I'm still not understanding the difference between the MK I and II. I have the MK I and love the thing. it's just an infinite sound generator. . Using the editor really takes it to a more logical place as you can see how it affects what and where. After using it for a while, the randomizer can be used and then "fixed" so that it will become killer. I will also say that the plugin sounds different than the hardware. a lot different to me. but great review and look at it.

[@AudioPilz]

More polyphony, more stock samples

[@AJStudios18]

i think the best selling point of this thing is the pure range of sound and modulation! definitely the hardest synth ive had to learn though

[@AudioPilz]

Yeah, it can be quite a challenge!!!

[@VisVitalisDJ]

I own Yamaha SY22 and still loving vector synths since I got it. For me it is a great addition to the ever returning copied and same waveshapes from subtractive synthesis. And I like the cold but digital character to spice up the setup. Creativity serves and Audiopilz is the proof of this. This three jams got me and was exciting once again. Damn hot shit. Well done Florian. Only critic is the lame intro but who cares. I will experiment with my golf ball again on the SY. See you next time.

[@AudioPilz]

SY22 is really nice!!!! Thanks!!!

[@0e0]

there is something about the no bullshit layer tones from that thing that really work for hooks and stuff

[@danhat606]

You're really spoiling us with the memes on this one!!!

[@Gainn]

The mk2 allowed me to (re)pick up a mk1 for a silly low price, so can't complain. Using the tool to set up multisamples is very useful. When I have a spare 6 months I'll have a look at the onboard sequencer.

[@AudioPilz]

Nice find!!!

[@AnalogFlava]

How do you like it snd is there a big difference between mk1 and2?

[@benitoe.4878]

Ha, again I'm saved! For the moment I thought I saw my Modwave. Puh...

[@AudioPilz]

Close;)

[@Bkoded]

that filter modulation stuff on the first jam was super cool

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!!!

[@dykodesigns]

The wavestate... I wouldn't mind having a Volca sized version of this. I really enjoy the iWavestation iPad app, it's one of my most used synths in Gadget. The Wavestation is a classic, it's instant 90's Discovery channel science program soundscapes.

[@AudioPilz]

Volca Wave!!!

[@tomalaerts8839]

I was tempted by the wavestate plugin during korg’s half price sale at black friday. But got Diva instead as that one is almost never on sale! Now I am convinced to get it indeed during Korg’s next sale!

[@AudioPilz]

Definitely worth giving it a shot!

[@FatNorthernBigot]

And you edit all this yourself? Do you ever leave the house?😮

[@AudioPilz]

It's cold outside anyway;)

[@FatNorthernBigot]

@@AudioPilz 😂

[@sashosfhc]

Pausing Florian's youtube to read the memes should definitely be a bigger pie piece!

[@AudioPilz]

😀😀😀

[@clarenceoveur9497]

Bought the MK1 during release week. It's a great machine. but for a hardware synthesizer, the MIDI implementation is A JOKE. Other than the 8 modknobs, all those other knobs and buttons don't send MIDI messages, or even sysex. Tons of parameters aren't assignable. BUT if you use the VST version, the same parameters can be automated! And if you try to point the obvious elephant in the room, or ask for improvements, their product manager will give you some passive aggressive response and deflect from the real issue: the Wavestate hardware and VST share the same code, while the hardware has several MIDI limitations, for $500 more. KORG refuses to listen, and the way their product manager handles user feedback doesn't help at all.

[@AudioPilz]

Yeah, Korg is a little difficult ATM

[@NoahPeterson]

I love it when you review the gear I have. I do love the machine though. And I do not disagree with anything you said. The menu diving.... sheesh...

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!!

[@tonystevenson26]

Nothing improves workflow like menu diving, indeed

[@TheSpectralArtisan]

Regardless of how good Bad Gear already is as a show... is it ever that much better when you actually have one of them! 😆

[@AudioPilz]

Happy to hear that!!! Thanks!!!

[@RoneySmithseedoflife]

Your short performance with the keyboard and drum machine is great enough to justify a video of a longer jam session. Early within this video, I wondered if the plug-in and iOS apps are the perfect recreations of the keyboard because the many layers and samples seem like this keyboard deserves a reissue or Behringer treatment lol 😂 Regardless, bring on your Bad Gear merch with I ❤ Bad Gear or let us know how to get any-shirt and hoodie!

[@AudioPilz]

Great idea, thanks!!!

[@IanWaugh]

Great vid 👍 An amazing machine, totally unnecessary remake, terrible display and keyboard, vastly over-priced.

[@AudioPilz]

That sums it up nicely

[@IanWaugh]

@@AudioPilz Maybe I could write your scripts 😄

[@VIDDTHEDESIGNER]

modulating a preset is everthing!

[@SmallWorldBigThings]

No no no... only Dawless ;)

[@AudioPilz]

Dawless is the way!!!

[@mrfuzztone]

Great videos and sounds. I would like to see you put a UDO Super 6 and Waldorf Iridium to work making great sounds. I have high hopes for the outcome.

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!! Great suggestion!!!

[@DankePlace]

1st after the other guy.

[@AudioPilz]

Yeah!!!

[@brutallyremastered4255]

You're The Man!

[@DankePlace]

@@brutallyremastered4255 It's true. I am!!!! You're the other man too!!!

[@rederickfroders1978]

Woohoo!

[@llittlegreyhound]

You are the best, I thoroughly enjoyed this as well as your cameo on Bob Eats. You should cover the new TE EP-133, that is, if you are lucky and find a working one lol. "Hence forth, thou shall be known as.. Darth Fader" 😂

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!!

[@alessandroferrazzi6738]

I think I’ve pressed pause in your videos more times than I did on every other KZbin video I’ve ever watched

[@AudioPilz]

Way of the Bad Gear;) Thanks for watching!!!

[@Nova_Afterglow]

thank you for the night version. my cones and rods appreciate it 6:21

[@AudioPilz]

Sometimes hate research has to take place late at night;)

[@billsplinter9034]

The (free) software that comes with the Korg WaveState makes it an absolute delight to program. Shame you didn't cover that. Midi via USB on Windows 10 was Hell in a Cell as you needed to install a NDIS Network adapter in Windows 10 and try and match the settings on the physical (small display) hardware to get it recognized and restart it every time you changed the connection method. On Windows 11 however it picked it up straight away, no issues.

[@jjlaceyofficial]

5:02 anyones cat. some of the performance sounds are nice. i really do find it quite a thin sounding synth. love the granular on anything. something about just dunay beef me up mun. an ok to nice piece of clobber but i would still have one. looks like it would be a great addition. the evolution of synths is getting really interesting all the same.

[@tbornottb303]

It does sound great for the sound explorer, but it's a little too complex for my aims, which are pretty simple. For the micromanager of sounds, this may be a great choice if money isn't an object. Yet another great show with great with kitty/opossum memes and jams!

[@peterkudenov9205]

To wit: the plug-in can do no wrong. It’s a fantastic synth but you have to put the time in, lest it be another preset machine. Great episode.

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks!!!

[@SeverityOne]

I'll just hold on to my Wavestation SR.

[@AudioPilz]

Nice one!!!

[@powermix24]

I have all 3 and they are amazing synths i get it, the interface is not all friendly, neither is the Octatrack BUT MY BIGGEST complaint is that the knobs on the hardware DOESN'T move the software, TR-8s is a great example on how a Software controls the Hardware and vice versa. Nice Bad Gear as always

[@SuperPillage]

Agree

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!!

[@gmannewsom]

I loved this, thanks for sharing it.

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!!

[@laurentbouchard6822]

The Korg Wavestation Ipad app + some sort of controller is cool, it makes the actual synth engine tweakable without going through as you said "this mariana trench of parameters" lol

[@AudioPilz]

👍👍👍

[@leslie1526]

Genius as always ❤

[@user82938]

One thing I do know: if I'm ever in Wien, I am visiting Klangfarbe!

[@AudioPilz]

Nice!!!