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Bad Gear - Korg Wavestate

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AudioPilz

AudioPilz

Күн бұрын

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@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Audiopilz: *slaps roof of YT channel* Full Tracks, Extended Jams, Sample Packs: www.patreon.com/audiopilz Follow me on Instagram: instagram.com/audio.pilz/
@TheSpectralArtisan
@TheSpectralArtisan Жыл бұрын
Just bought an old Roland W-30, dont know if you have already reviewed one... but with the need for as stack of old floppy disks to load on separate patches- personally however upgraded to the less antiquated emulator usb drive... there are 8 separate output ports on the rear and well... its a good time🤪
@TheKorgborg
@TheKorgborg Жыл бұрын
Korg RK-100S 2 Red, u know you want to, please where an Japan headband when doing the episode, if it isnn't bad gear you can always make a campy bad, gear revieuw abouot it, its just how you put the punctioation
@flomojo2u
@flomojo2u 10 ай бұрын
I bought a WS MkII thanks to this video... It's amazing. I got it off eBay for $500 in brand-New condition, though it was listed as having been opened. I haven't tried to use the plug-in discount code, so perhaps it was that cheap for a reason, but I'm more than happy with the hardware. Being tied to a PC was never my use case. Thanks to BG for helping to grow my collection!
@cautionseaman
@cautionseaman Жыл бұрын
It may have something to do with growing up during the 90s but the sounds and sequences that come from the station/state seem to just naturally resonate with me on a semi-subconscious level. No other synth does that for me.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
I can relate to that!
@bitterpearls
@bitterpearls Жыл бұрын
I feel this. I want to returnnnn
@qpasas
@qpasas Жыл бұрын
thats true
@BeatsByJarel
@BeatsByJarel 10 ай бұрын
Same
@cemgulpunk
@cemgulpunk 5 ай бұрын
true and Roland JP8000.
@jeffjfindley4802
@jeffjfindley4802 Жыл бұрын
The blend of affection/contempt/humor that you convey on this channel is untouchable. I literally had weeping spells beginning around 5 min.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!!
@vvcv__00
@vvcv__00 9 ай бұрын
It's a successful KZbin format. Fast edits of randomness, with attempts at sarcasm and/or bad irony. Just look up the top channels. Personally, I can't stand it, and would rather watch a music professor, but hey, people seem to love it so kudos!
@joonglegamer9898
@joonglegamer9898 Жыл бұрын
Hey that's my synth :) Well I got the 64 Poly version. But it's not as bad as a lot of people seem to think. It's lightweight, which means you can use it on your lap or in bed, or in a chair/sofa etc, and you'd want to if you wanna learn it and dive deep. And Deep it is! One of the things I've hoped for is that since it's Raspberry Compute module 3B based - is that Korg would eventually let the modding community have at it, meaning release the Synth for Open Source modding, that would place Korg in the history of synths nicely, would be a good idea. I was one of the lucky early adopters that got it for about 500$ so that wasn't that expensive to me, but 1000$ ? thats a hard sell, nevermind 2300$ that's an impossible sell. Especially since it's very cheap to build with a processor that was created for bedroom developers to begin with. What I like about it is actually the knobs. You can program 8 of them to do anything you want, any parameter can be set to those 8 white knobs you see there, so you can literally create your own "customized synth", because it does have a LOT of parameters to adjust. You can "simulalte midi-delay", which means you can simulate an old synth setup you've seen in a 80s music video, for example I re-created the intro FM'ish synth from Europe's "Carrie" song to perfection, and it took 30 mins to do so - in fact, once you know how to operate this synth, it's actually incredibly intuitive, because every know is menu-context sensitive, meaning - you twist a knob, and it will directly take you to the corresponding menu - no need to dive too much, just learn that workflow and you'll be up and running faster than imagined, this is new to most traditional synth owners since they are used to the old way of menu diving, most synths don't have a "direct-from-knob-to-menu" functionality this one have, goes for ModWave too! But yeah, I agree that it could easily have been sold for 300$ and it would have been a huge hit. The most appealing thing about this synth is exactly the layout and knobs (minus the dinky display, which is oled, and prone to line-failure, missing / garbled lines in the display) sadly. But here's a protip for those who complains about it having too thin sound: If you go to the reverb menu settings, and scroll down, there's a secret - the HQ FILTER settings, here you can adjust the entire frequency range and get as much OOMPF as you'd ever want or your speakers can handle. Very little known well hidden secret, enjoy!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a HackState too!!!
@AnalogOne-jams
@AnalogOne-jams Жыл бұрын
You are absolutley right that editing takes up as much of my time as pausing your videos to read the memes 😂
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
It’s true;)
@NeoMorphUK
@NeoMorphUK Ай бұрын
Plug it into the computer and it makes the awkward menu diving go away. It’s awesome. I love my Wavestate MkII.
@JeffPalmer83
@JeffPalmer83 Жыл бұрын
The trick with the hardware is that the knobs change the display to whatever they relate to. I love programming sounds on the Wavestate hardware!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Agreed!!!
@BeatsByJarel
@BeatsByJarel 10 ай бұрын
Same here man ..ath the beginning was really hard to program when I first got it on 2021...but I been practicing everyday since.. I make some great patches on it .. I had read the manual like 30 times already😂... wavestate requires alot knowledge is not for everybody
@piggosalternateaccount4917
@piggosalternateaccount4917 Жыл бұрын
Many KZbinrs i've never been early enough to be watching during their height but AudioPilz is already going damn strong and only at 100k - much further to go, fuckin awesome channel
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!!
@cyberwarfare9118
@cyberwarfare9118 Жыл бұрын
The last jam was incredible. This thing is certainly one of the most powerful synths ever made if you know what you're doing.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!!
@BeatsByJarel
@BeatsByJarel 10 ай бұрын
@lukeautosymbol2668
@lukeautosymbol2668 10 ай бұрын
Yea, definitely one of AP's better jams
@michaelbarakat3856
@michaelbarakat3856 11 ай бұрын
I appreciate the tongue-in-cheek and also that some of this is very true commentary.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!!!
@stevekirkby6570
@stevekirkby6570 5 ай бұрын
I don't believe this falls into the category of bad gear. Love it, and the Modwave.
@straighttalk2069
@straighttalk2069 4 ай бұрын
It doesn't but korgs BAD PRACTISE of creating a plugin version that is identical to the hardware only months after the initial launch of the hardware was so bad it was evil.
@VestedUTuber
@VestedUTuber 4 ай бұрын
@@straighttalk2069 Is that really a problem? VSTs and hardware synths are technically separate parts of a market, and even if a VST for a synth exists a lot of people are still hardware die-hards. I know I'd rather have physical knobs to turn than have to faff about with a mouse and virtual knobs.
@VestedUTuber
@VestedUTuber 4 ай бұрын
There's quite a few bad gear episodes on gear that isn't actually bad, but to get on the show a piece of gear just has to have a sufficiently large amount of complaints. Sometimes a synth is great but has an odd quirk that some people can't look past (Roland TB-3), or has a bit of a learning curve (Moog DFAM), or just happens to be difficult to fit into the current trendy genre (Novation Bass Station 2), or might be limited compared to significantly more expensive synths even if it's perfectly fine for its price point (the entire Korg Volca line).
@DubElementMusic
@DubElementMusic 24 күн бұрын
​​@@VestedUTuber because this cheap synths are basically a vst with controller and not a real analog synth, this is the reason why they sound so clean, boring and flat.
@VestedUTuber
@VestedUTuber 23 күн бұрын
@@DubElementMusic Preference aside, there's nothing wrong with having a clean sound. And as for sounding "flat and boring", nine times out of ten that's a skill issue, not the fault of the synth. At the end of the day, synths are musical instruments - tools for producing sound. Would you call the violin a bad instrument because it doesn't sound like a tuba?
@AlexNes
@AlexNes Жыл бұрын
Who else had the kneejerk reaction that Florian was going to play Join Me from HIM at 1:17? :D
@GoneComposer
@GoneComposer 11 ай бұрын
You're videos are like the Korg Wavestate MkII : beautiful outside, incredibly deep and rich, delightful inside (yes I love this synth)
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!!!
@wiidlbeetle3857
@wiidlbeetle3857 Жыл бұрын
I always get excited for a new episode of European synthesizer man!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!!❤️❤️❤️
@rogerioamorim8057
@rogerioamorim8057 2 ай бұрын
I love how these videos of “bad gear” usually end up with great sounding demos using the gear under evaluation. 😅👍 I know that there’s the plug-in version, but I ended up buying the Wavestate Module. 😀 I (really) don’t need any more keybeds in my room, and the module is the same as the “SE” version, but in a rack format. I really love the kind of sounds that this synth/romper does.
@danwentz
@danwentz 11 ай бұрын
Great stuff! I have the Modwave and Opsix. Especially when used live, the advantage with hardware versions are they allow you to seemlessly change patches while holding down keys.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 11 ай бұрын
Thank you!!! Agreed!!!
@pratyulmusic
@pratyulmusic 8 ай бұрын
Which among Modwave, opsix and Wavestate would you say is easier to operate ?
@danwentz
@danwentz 8 ай бұрын
@@pratyulmusic Korg did an amazing job on all of them, but Opsix is probably the easiest to operate, but it isn't as deep. Modwave being a combination of subtractive/wavetable synth with sampling is the most complex of the three.
@pratyulmusic
@pratyulmusic 8 ай бұрын
@@danwentz thank you
@Njal55
@Njal55 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant. I'm a guitar player, but this is the only YT channel I watch every week without fail. Pausing Florian's videos to see the memes killed me :) Keep it up!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!!
@ChrisSmout
@ChrisSmout Жыл бұрын
Really digging the Retro Goth Rave track, particularly as I've been playing a lot of Cyberpunk lately!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!!
@SkyWolfZero
@SkyWolfZero Жыл бұрын
I love my Wavestate….but yeah, I find the plug-in much easier to use to generate patches.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Yeah, a plugin fits the synth philosophy perfectly
@Bod8998
@Bod8998 Жыл бұрын
I concur
@mb102
@mb102 Жыл бұрын
Akai miniak was the first to make me feel like 20 cheap ass knobs and faders would be better than two to 4 tank like pieces. Wavestate is not at all a pickup and play tool. I own one amd still have not scratched the surface....I get too lost in re tooling what's there to even begin to make from scratch... I need to sit down and set it up for reggae, boom bap, techno..just don't fully get how to do so. Still fun....I think they are asses for not adding a cheap ass dvi port to hook to a touch screen or TV just saying...and mk2 ain't even a real mk2 oh well still love it
@mb102
@mb102 Жыл бұрын
Also said all this before watching lol😂😂
@CatenationIndustrial
@CatenationIndustrial Жыл бұрын
​@@docwhammoUse AI for what?
@conradtm
@conradtm Жыл бұрын
It's interesting to see the direction some of these synths end up going with their UX. The underlying mantra I was always taught was "be friendly to both experts and novices alike," but much of the time it feels like they either leave the experts to menu dive on a early 00s cell phone screen or they leave the novices to be overwhelmed by the complexity. Often both.
@zurlocker1
@zurlocker1 Жыл бұрын
It is strange to me that when they went to MK II and the SE larger keybed they didn't expand the size of the screen.
@systemicchaos3921
@systemicchaos3921 Жыл бұрын
I feel so lucky with my novation summit when I see some of these synths. Menu diving can be such a chore
@presteign1113
@presteign1113 Жыл бұрын
This, IMO, is the biggest downside of the single platform shared by Wavestate, Opsix, and Modwave. The Opsix UX fits beautifully within the constraints posed by its screen, but once you move from FM to wave sequencing, it’s not quite enough. Now a Wavestate with the screen from a Korg Nautilus…
@JonesyTheCat
@JonesyTheCat Жыл бұрын
Is something similar to Wavestate available in Nautilus?
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
It’s quite a challenge
@jona_KardCiv1
@jona_KardCiv1 10 ай бұрын
I actually bought this, and then returned it. It sounded great and did some really cool stuff. It was a nightmare to program though. You don't sound design it. It designs you.
@patrickfitzgerald2861
@patrickfitzgerald2861 Жыл бұрын
An accurate assessment Florian, but for a hobbyist like me the presets in my MK I version on their own provide a stunning palette of highly customizable sounds, and the UI works very well with all of them - no need to resort to the editor. Finally, used MK I Wavestates can now be had for around US $400 in great condition, which makes this machine a great deal in my view.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@brianschiller4053
@brianschiller4053 Жыл бұрын
The Wavestation is my favorite digital synth. I got a Wavestate hoping to recreate my favorite Wavestation patches before the old synth gives up. They do require a lot of time and menu diving to create your own sequences. You are 100% right about the Wavestate keybed being crap!
@EHiggins
@EHiggins Жыл бұрын
It feels so weak and mushy XD
@auralplex
@auralplex Жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s garbage
@amb13nt59
@amb13nt59 Жыл бұрын
I have an original Wavestate, and am very disillusioned by it in general. Just three years after buying it, something has happened with pitch control; any performance will, out of the blue, go wonky with pitch. This is literally the junkiest piece of gear I’ve ever had…and I’m a huge Kori fan.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@23bit76
@23bit76 Жыл бұрын
A flimsy piece of plastic very disappointed
@marcbrasse747
@marcbrasse747 Жыл бұрын
The hardware might be “mwaah” but the sound is truly expensive. I totally underestimated it until I found Maik Schott’s channel. Especially his Trevor Horn soundset blows my mind. It’s the first time I have actually contemplated to buy a synth specifically for a soundpack! Need I say more!😎
@-The-Darkside
@-The-Darkside Жыл бұрын
I find his sounds massively overrated. Very thin compared to real synths. I have one and some of his packs.
@KA0T
@KA0T Жыл бұрын
Same. He sold me the wavestate.
@marcbrasse747
@marcbrasse747 Жыл бұрын
@@-The-Darkside all a matter of taste, I gues. 😁
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Nice, gotta check it out!!!
@tehedx
@tehedx Жыл бұрын
Yes, finally somebody who shows that this synth CAN be used for snappy and choppy sounds. Of course it is a go-to synth if you're looking for long self evolving sounds, but the machine seems so versatile to me that I didn't doubt it could be useful in house like styles. Probably possible to backport the good old M1 sounds too.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@Soundwrecker
@Soundwrecker Жыл бұрын
FINALLY my continuous pausing of your videos to read the memes has been referenced in a meme! I had to hit pause twice to read that one.!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
❤️❤️❤️
@kevinguaman525
@kevinguaman525 Жыл бұрын
Amazing synth and great demos, I was about to get a Wavestate but after realizing the complex it is I decided to go for the modwave, massive video as always 👏👏
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!!
@mwhitelow9312
@mwhitelow9312 Жыл бұрын
Same, I opted for the Modwave as well.
@garyhendrie4001
@garyhendrie4001 Жыл бұрын
You should have lived back in the days of synths like the DX7 et al. Now those kind of synths were difficult to programme lol.
@kevinguaman525
@kevinguaman525 Жыл бұрын
@@garyhendrie4001 yeah I could imagine that just watching how's dexed is, also many digital synths in that years
@simonbecker748
@simonbecker748 11 ай бұрын
@@garyhendrie4001 I had the pleasure of using a DX11 for a few months. Great synth but programming usable patches was nearly impossible, so I gave up on doing that and tried to produce the most metallic and distorted sounds possible. Actually worked out great and I made a few extremely brutal industrial tracks with it. Kind of sad that I got rid of it when money was tight.
@vbarr67
@vbarr67 Жыл бұрын
"Pausing Florian's video to read the memes" lol :D I have to go backwards so much to re-listen to the full sentences because I keep pausing and loose track :D But they're so funny ! Great video again, thank you for your hard word that is so refreshing !
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@Iceleben
@Iceleben Жыл бұрын
I love both the Plug-In and Hardware. Preproduction on the Plug In, export to HW and you can play live with it… great concept and I would love to own the SE but it’s way to expensive
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Nice approach!!!
@GrootsieTheDog
@GrootsieTheDog 4 ай бұрын
Software blows away hardware for its ability to make accessible to all, the wonderful world of synthesizers. The Buchla, the Prophet 5, Jupiter 8, Mercury 4, the wavestate...through the magic of software, I can explore all these amazing synths that have been developed through out history. It's a joy that never gets old. Especially when I dish out $50-$100 for a $5000.00 synth. Truly grateful for the technology 😊
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 ай бұрын
Agreed!!!
@amethystlegion
@amethystlegion Жыл бұрын
100% agree - Wavestate Native and Modwave Native are awesome, but the hardware synths - my impression is I would probably actually be using the software to program them too, and not the knobs and buttons.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
😀😀😀
@SonicVibe
@SonicVibe Жыл бұрын
keep climbing the algorithm my friend much deserved !
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!!
@3rdPersonProductions
@3rdPersonProductions Жыл бұрын
There are lots of “crazy” purchases on our list, plug-in-wise. This one is on there. Definitely seems better adapted to the plug-in format in its functionality than in the physical. Thank you for this content we love it!!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!!
@jjlacey1970
@jjlacey1970 22 күн бұрын
5:02 anyones cat. some of the performance sounds are nice. i really do find it quite a thin sounding synth. love the granular on anything. something about just dunay beef me up mun. an ok to nice piece of clobber but i would still have one. looks like it would be a great addition. the evolution of synths is getting really interesting all the same.
@Pablo668
@Pablo668 Жыл бұрын
I mean, I’d happily have one of these if it was thrown at me. That last jam was epic. The first one you did sounded like a mistake at first, but then you did the thing all good musicians do, repeated it until it sounded normal.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! Great feedback!!!
@MyWorstEnemyIsMyself
@MyWorstEnemyIsMyself Жыл бұрын
Dude that Jojo's referecence at the end is godlike!!!!!!!! going to watch it forever until my ears and eyes bleeds, thank you for you funny stuff as usual buddy.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!!
@andrewlecouteurbisson7217
@andrewlecouteurbisson7217 Жыл бұрын
That "Gameboy Display" is "War & Peace" to Roland's usual efforts :)
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Lol, so true
@tonystevenson26
@tonystevenson26 Жыл бұрын
Ensoniq Mirage was the best screen, ever !
@EHiggins
@EHiggins Жыл бұрын
I waited so long for this during Covid. I open up the box and there is a piece of cardboard stuck to it saying "Hey try random!". That was pretty much all the documentation you got. The rest was electrical warnings.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Lol, still better than a Roland manual
@EHiggins
@EHiggins Жыл бұрын
@@AudioPilz true
@ShaunBartone-e8w
@ShaunBartone-e8w Жыл бұрын
Ok Florian, I have the first Wavestate ($425 used) and the VST. They don't sound the same, and I prefer the sound of the hardware. I also have the Wavestation VST, and Wavestate is definitely a successor but goes well beyond it. Korg and Yamaha are about the only companies still making multi-timbral synths or 'workstations'. Yes, it's 90s style sounds, but hey, the 90s were fucking awesome, compared to the Lost Decade of the Millennium when music all but died. The Wavestate is my Psybient, Psytrance synth, and it does a fantastic job with those genres. Playing it is pure enjoyment (the keyboard is just fine); it's my 'desert island' synth. Loved your final jam!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the heads up!!!
@zurlocker1
@zurlocker1 Жыл бұрын
Great review. That second jam sounded like Jean Michel Jarre! Now we know his secret weapon!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@yeahright73
@yeahright73 Жыл бұрын
NGL, I loved my Wavestation EX. I love my Wavestate even more. Should it be your only synth? Probably not, but I suppose you could make do, it's more versatile than you would think. It's still the most epic evolving pad and drone machine this side of a eurorack rig.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
That sums it up nicely!!!
@jamesdefrancesco7765
@jamesdefrancesco7765 Жыл бұрын
I still have my EX!
@yeahright73
@yeahright73 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesdefrancesco7765 I seriously considered keeping mine, but the backlight was gone and I was able to trade it for the Wavestate even up so...yeah. Is it exactly the same, no, does it fill the same niche, yep. That said, I cranked out some seriously deranged sounds with my EX!
@yeahright73
@yeahright73 Жыл бұрын
@@AudioPilz, when are you going to take the Eurorack plunge and do an episode on the Cre8audio NiftyBundle?
@RealityShiftUK
@RealityShiftUK Жыл бұрын
Does the same go for the mini freak as well? I just have the software
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Not so sure about that one - it has an analog filter
@johnnythreshold
@johnnythreshold Жыл бұрын
Nice to see you getting interviewed these days ;)
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@justjoeblow420
@justjoeblow420 Жыл бұрын
Oh god I feel called out about the pausing to read the meme's thing being hidden in a meme. Well played meta fuck about on your part. I still want one, but then again half the reason I want a Korg Nautilus was for the Wave sequencing support on it.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
These workstations are quite a rabbithole
@justjoeblow420
@justjoeblow420 Жыл бұрын
@@AudioPilz I know and I really like them for that, but apparently that makes me weird in some folks eyes.
@soilentmichi
@soilentmichi 6 ай бұрын
Wieder einmal phantastisch, kurzweilig, informativ, sehr geil vielen Dank
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 6 ай бұрын
Vielen Dank!
@WarrenPostma
@WarrenPostma Жыл бұрын
This channel is SO great. Love the memes and the solid musical sensibility. Also I died from laughing. The samples library of a bedroom producer. Ski Jam is the best preset of all time. Sue me. Jam at 7:36 is an all time great sounding track. Also sounds maybe like it came from a Genos2 style. Soooo. Do Genos2 soon?
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!!
@omedome2787
@omedome2787 5 ай бұрын
My wavestate keeps surprising me, love it, sounds great. Build quality not very good and frustrating to edit but worth it.
@JGlassy
@JGlassy Жыл бұрын
Great job Florian! What a cacophony of wonderful features and quirky, self imposed limitations. For now, the VST indeed looks like it wins.😊
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@Dubsteppah
@Dubsteppah Жыл бұрын
One of the best and most fun music channels on all of KZbin. I can only dream of getting my hands on most of these pieces of kit.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!!
@djdarksidejungle559
@djdarksidejungle559 Жыл бұрын
yes the only synthesizer that i actually fell in love with and got mine sat right nextr to me turned on best thing i like about this synth is the one finger jams cause it is eseentially a 4 peice band really and the modulation as well thats a whole new level ive had mine 3 yeares and im just a bit better trhen a novice but i love it me for making banging techno jams
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
1 finger jams 4 life!!!
@djdarksidejungle559
@djdarksidejungle559 Жыл бұрын
@@AudioPilz it does them so well thats why i love it me
@patrickfitzgerald2861
@patrickfitzgerald2861 Жыл бұрын
Yep . . . 👍👍👍
@djdarksidejungle559
@djdarksidejungle559 Жыл бұрын
@@AudioPilz well you know dan phillips anyway wahat a guy man me and him argue about ukraine but its dan phillip0s brain child so big shout out to dan phillip0s for been so awesome and coming up with wavestate
@-The-Darkside
@-The-Darkside Жыл бұрын
Same bud , for solo artists it's pretty great. I do have fun setting up 4 patches with the key parameters and bringing in new sounds as you play. Once the sounds are on you don't need a computer to play it etc.
@ysteinsondrup9394
@ysteinsondrup9394 Жыл бұрын
Finally I'm ahead! This time the review came after my purchase 😅 Got the plugin though, and I love it 😀
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Nice!!!
@TokyoScarab
@TokyoScarab Жыл бұрын
Great video! I wanted one of these for the absolute longest time. Then I got to try one in person at a Guitar Center and god........ it leaves a lot to be desired in the build quality. For $700 we should expect something that doesn't feel like a big Korg Volca! I actually ended up just saving some money and buying a Wavestation A/D and a card to let me load my own samples. Absolutely zero regrets! The wavestate plugin is a bunch of fun though! I honestly was hoping the SE version would just use a big LCD screen with the interface of the plugin. Sadly korg didn't wanna make the SE too nice. :P
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the pricing is a deal breaker here
@sasarasa88
@sasarasa88 Жыл бұрын
when they sold the original opsix at $330 in the US that felt like the right price for these builds
@TokyoScarab
@TokyoScarab Жыл бұрын
@@sasarasa88 That's a much more reasonable price tag, honestly.
@teamphil
@teamphil Жыл бұрын
At this rate, it will be 40% sometime next year. Just hold out
@zakblackhawk204
@zakblackhawk204 Жыл бұрын
Please tell me that atonal funk brass sequence at 4:04 is an actual preset...
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
It is;)
@mutablebody
@mutablebody Жыл бұрын
My bad gear infinity gauntlet nears completion... I've owned two of these. Sold the first because it was buggy and made me mad, despite the fact that it does things expensive workstation keyboards don't do. Missed it enough to trade for another one, even though I had the plugin. The button/knob layout makes programming modulation really fun! Pretty hard to find good orchestral multisamples in a portable keyboard. Also, modulating the speed of the timing lane can make it go so fast that it crashes. Normally the "speed" multiplier only goes up by 2-4x at most, but you can send it modulation from one of the knobs that go to 600x. Riding the wave of 98% CPU usage delivers some really wild tones. It's like DFAM's tempo knob cranked all the way up, but then you slow it down and reveal not pounding analog drums, but saxophone squawks and the sounds of people screaming, and like swords and stuff. This thing sucks. It's one of my favorite synths.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
"This thing sucks. It's one of my favorite synths." - spot on!!!
@carloslavina9779
@carloslavina9779 Жыл бұрын
nice thing the new comments over black background. love ur videos
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! Night mode FTW!!!
@jamesmcn0000
@jamesmcn0000 Жыл бұрын
I suspect the Wavestate's "cheap" plastic case will stand up at least as well as the Poly800. Korg knows how to make low cost synths.
@PorchBass
@PorchBass Жыл бұрын
I've had 3 poly 800s and gave up trying to keep them working
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Poly800 is made for postapocalyptic use;)
@danhat606
@danhat606 11 ай бұрын
You're really spoiling us with the memes on this one!!!
@SmallWorldBigThings
@SmallWorldBigThings Жыл бұрын
I like these medium/small size series of synths from Korg.... a lot of nice and unique functions... and sound always is very "usable". Multitembrality in Wavestate is nice feature every synth should have (at least these digital should have)... however the keyboard is a huge downside of this devise. Good review!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@petermgruhn
@petermgruhn Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure '"usable'" is the praise you might think it to be.
@SmallWorldBigThings
@SmallWorldBigThings Жыл бұрын
@@petermgruhn I know what are prices for these synths.
@Bkoded
@Bkoded Жыл бұрын
that filter modulation stuff on the first jam was super cool
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!!
@shthouserat
@shthouserat Жыл бұрын
i knew my project would make it to this channel eventually! (the volca in the cavity)
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Thank you for that one!!!
@InFamousProductions
@InFamousProductions Жыл бұрын
So I'm still not understanding the difference between the MK I and II. I have the MK I and love the thing. it's just an infinite sound generator. . Using the editor really takes it to a more logical place as you can see how it affects what and where. After using it for a while, the randomizer can be used and then "fixed" so that it will become killer. I will also say that the plugin sounds different than the hardware. a lot different to me. but great review and look at it.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
More polyphony, more stock samples
@sashosfhc
@sashosfhc Жыл бұрын
Pausing Florian's youtube to read the memes should definitely be a bigger pie piece!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
😀😀😀
@Leiska27
@Leiska27 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Now I can truly feel satisfied with my financial decisions.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Always a pleasure;)
@Gainn
@Gainn Жыл бұрын
The mk2 allowed me to (re)pick up a mk1 for a silly low price, so can't complain. Using the tool to set up multisamples is very useful. When I have a spare 6 months I'll have a look at the onboard sequencer.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Nice find!!!
@AnalogFlava
@AnalogFlava 7 ай бұрын
How do you like it snd is there a big difference between mk1 and2?
@hermask815
@hermask815 Жыл бұрын
I really hate the fact that my blood pressure monitor has a bigger display while being significantly cheaper. So don’t give me the BS that displays are a part that would have boosted the costs on Opsix, modwave and wavestate. And the resolution on my Casio calculator also seems higher.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
True that!
@thewistfulsnail
@thewistfulsnail Жыл бұрын
The sounds you achieved from this synth go beyond my comprehension! There are some synths I know I'm not ready for and this is one of them!
@DoctorNemmo
@DoctorNemmo Жыл бұрын
You'll never be ready for the Wavestate. The Wavestate will be ready for you.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Definitely worth accepting the challenge
@Blackholeheart
@Blackholeheart Жыл бұрын
I think Florian is spying on my package deliveries, he keeps making videos about devices right after I buy one.😆
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
You know too much
@tonystevenson26
@tonystevenson26 Жыл бұрын
Look outside your window, UPS is out there
@stevenormandin2059
@stevenormandin2059 Жыл бұрын
be AWARE you might be BLACKMAILED by the EVIL god of SYNTH ! LOL :)
@autecheee
@autecheee Жыл бұрын
9:37 You have validated my purchase a year ago (Wavestate Native software)….which I do not regret and still am amazed at generating B.edazzling A.spirational D.iminsions of sonic tones and chopped sequences with this software gear. My fav. For generating Berlin TD sequences and pad.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Nice!!!
@VisVitalisDJ
@VisVitalisDJ Жыл бұрын
I own Yamaha SY22 and still loving vector synths since I got it. For me it is a great addition to the ever returning copied and same waveshapes from subtractive synthesis. And I like the cold but digital character to spice up the setup. Creativity serves and Audiopilz is the proof of this. This three jams got me and was exciting once again. Damn hot shit. Well done Florian. Only critic is the lame intro but who cares. I will experiment with my golf ball again on the SY. See you next time.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
SY22 is really nice!!!! Thanks!!!
@0e0
@0e0 Жыл бұрын
there is something about the no bullshit layer tones from that thing that really work for hooks and stuff
@DonLuca27
@DonLuca27 Жыл бұрын
That second jam was out of this world, absolute banger!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@benitoe.4878
@benitoe.4878 Жыл бұрын
Ha, again I'm saved! For the moment I thought I saw my Modwave. Puh...
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Close;)
@pontram
@pontram Жыл бұрын
As so often on your channel - wonderful tracks ! Thanks for the priceless lesson !
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!!
@IanWaugh
@IanWaugh Жыл бұрын
Great vid 👍 An amazing machine, totally unnecessary remake, terrible display and keyboard, vastly over-priced.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
That sums it up nicely
@IanWaugh
@IanWaugh Жыл бұрын
@@AudioPilz Maybe I could write your scripts 😄
@SeverityOne
@SeverityOne Жыл бұрын
I'll just hold on to my Wavestation SR.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Nice one!!!
@dykodesigns
@dykodesigns Жыл бұрын
The wavestate... I wouldn't mind having a Volca sized version of this. I really enjoy the iWavestation iPad app, it's one of my most used synths in Gadget. The Wavestation is a classic, it's instant 90's Discovery channel science program soundscapes.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Volca Wave!!!
@arbous65
@arbous65 2 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for the review. So would you say the sounds are pre-fabricated enough to push the synth to a particular genre? If you would pick a hardware synth more open to a lot of genres which one would you pick in this price range or less? I like ambient music, 70s electronic music and psychedelic rock, and generally analog sounding stuff however I like something that offers a lot of polyphony, being able to create presets, and also multi-timbral (at least 4 like this unit but ideally up to 16) to connect DAW to the unit and run each timbre on a different MIDI channel with a different track in the DAW, but also not a ROMpler, i.e. having hands on tweakable parameters to create and tailor make my own sounds and what works for the context of the composition for that moment. Also a unit that allows program change for each timbre through MIDI to be able to use many presets along the composition. Is there such hardware synth?
@clarenceoveur9497
@clarenceoveur9497 7 ай бұрын
Bought the MK1 during release week. It's a great machine. but for a hardware synthesizer, the MIDI implementation is A JOKE. Other than the 8 modknobs, all those other knobs and buttons don't send MIDI messages, or even sysex. Tons of parameters aren't assignable. BUT if you use the VST version, the same parameters can be automated! And if you try to point the obvious elephant in the room, or ask for improvements, their product manager will give you some passive aggressive response and deflect from the real issue: the Wavestate hardware and VST share the same code, while the hardware has several MIDI limitations, for $500 more. KORG refuses to listen, and the way their product manager handles user feedback doesn't help at all.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, Korg is a little difficult ATM
@shnixbot
@shnixbot Жыл бұрын
Dear FlowRyan, one of your best videos/jams! I dig that 90s goth you name it thing. Love it, love you. Your Piefke from another border ❤
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Vielen Dank!!!
@FatNorthernBigot
@FatNorthernBigot Жыл бұрын
And you edit all this yourself? Do you ever leave the house?😮
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
It's cold outside anyway;)
@FatNorthernBigot
@FatNorthernBigot Жыл бұрын
@@AudioPilz 😂
@AJStudios18
@AJStudios18 Жыл бұрын
i think the best selling point of this thing is the pure range of sound and modulation! definitely the hardest synth ive had to learn though
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it can be quite a challenge!!!
@TheSpectralArtisan
@TheSpectralArtisan Жыл бұрын
Regardless of how good Bad Gear already is as a show... is it ever that much better when you actually have one of them! 😆
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Happy to hear that!!! Thanks!!!
@peterkudenov9205
@peterkudenov9205 Жыл бұрын
To wit: the plug-in can do no wrong. It’s a fantastic synth but you have to put the time in, lest it be another preset machine. Great episode.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Thanks!!!
@DankePlace
@DankePlace Жыл бұрын
1st after the other guy.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Yeah!!!
@brutallyremastered4255
@brutallyremastered4255 Жыл бұрын
You're The Man!
@DankePlace
@DankePlace Жыл бұрын
@@brutallyremastered4255 It's true. I am!!!! You're the other man too!!!
@rederickfroders1978
@rederickfroders1978 Жыл бұрын
Woohoo!
@h2o1969
@h2o1969 Жыл бұрын
How long did this video take? With the complexity you demonstrated, I imagine weeks of menu driving and manual reading.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
It's around 5 or 6 days...
@SmallWorldBigThings
@SmallWorldBigThings Жыл бұрын
No no no... only Dawless ;)
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Dawless is the way!!!
@powermix24
@powermix24 Жыл бұрын
I have all 3 and they are amazing synths i get it, the interface is not all friendly, neither is the Octatrack BUT MY BIGGEST complaint is that the knobs on the hardware DOESN'T move the software, TR-8s is a great example on how a Software controls the Hardware and vice versa. Nice Bad Gear as always
@SuperPillage
@SuperPillage Жыл бұрын
Agree
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@djreddy666
@djreddy666 Жыл бұрын
My man! This is THE best Channel EVERRRRRRRR! Love your stuff man 🙂
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!!
@NoahPeterson
@NoahPeterson Жыл бұрын
I love it when you review the gear I have. I do love the machine though. And I do not disagree with anything you said. The menu diving.... sheesh...
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@tonystevenson26
@tonystevenson26 Жыл бұрын
Nothing improves workflow like menu diving, indeed
@RoneySmithseedoflife
@RoneySmithseedoflife Жыл бұрын
Your short performance with the keyboard and drum machine is great enough to justify a video of a longer jam session. Early within this video, I wondered if the plug-in and iOS apps are the perfect recreations of the keyboard because the many layers and samples seem like this keyboard deserves a reissue or Behringer treatment lol 😂 Regardless, bring on your Bad Gear merch with I ❤ Bad Gear or let us know how to get any-shirt and hoodie!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Great idea, thanks!!!
@mrfuzztone
@mrfuzztone 11 ай бұрын
Great videos and sounds. I would like to see you put a UDO Super 6 and Waldorf Iridium to work making great sounds. I have high hopes for the outcome.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 11 ай бұрын
Thank you!!! Great suggestion!!!
@jezza8558
@jezza8558 Жыл бұрын
Great episode as usual! I had a wavestate, I loved it and hated it with equal measure. It was everything I wanted but didn't have the time to learn in a box 😄 I much prefer the VST and as soon as It came out I sold my hardware version. I personally think it will be a classic but its its menu diving will forever be a thorn in its cheaply made plastic side.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!!
@-The-Darkside
@-The-Darkside Жыл бұрын
That's cool if it want to turn your computer and stare at a screen on every time you want to play music.
@patkelly8309
@patkelly8309 Жыл бұрын
@@-The-Darkside " A Screen-On "" Sounds a bit rude
@cp99music
@cp99music Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't pay full price for it due to the build quality, but the MK1 regularly goes for ~400 bucks used which I feel like is a pretty good deal if you enjoy hardware more or want to play live with it. The joystick is simple but a pretty major part of the sound and experience. In my opinion that makes it worth having the hardware unit if you can get a good deal on it.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
400 bucks sounds about right!
@Dudderlyful
@Dudderlyful Жыл бұрын
A friend let me use his for a bit and it was impenetrable. Homestly not very fun to use but kudos to Korg for making it. The plugin is the way to go for sure though! Happy Friday! No more work for the year! 😊
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Have a nice weekend!!!
@user82938
@user82938 Жыл бұрын
One thing I do know: if I'm ever in Wien, I am visiting Klangfarbe!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Nice!!!
@lX-NDR
@lX-NDR Жыл бұрын
vsti,s gives you way more control then most synths. integration with the tools your daw gives you makes you a powerhouse
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
True that!
@tomalaerts8839
@tomalaerts8839 Жыл бұрын
I was tempted by the wavestate plugin during korg’s half price sale at black friday. But got Diva instead as that one is almost never on sale! Now I am convinced to get it indeed during Korg’s next sale!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Definitely worth giving it a shot!
@alessandroferrazzi6738
@alessandroferrazzi6738 Жыл бұрын
I think I’ve pressed pause in your videos more times than I did on every other KZbin video I’ve ever watched
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Way of the Bad Gear;) Thanks for watching!!!
@robertsyrett1992
@robertsyrett1992 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe how much functionality was packed in there and how it all it all ends up sounding like 1990s kitsch.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
True that!
@Nova_Afterglow
@Nova_Afterglow Жыл бұрын
thank you for the night version. my cones and rods appreciate it 6:21
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Sometimes hate research has to take place late at night;)
@standingwavestudio
@standingwavestudio Жыл бұрын
I bought the original because it seemed cool and could do stuff nothing else really could. And I never had time to dive into it so I ended up selling it and getting a Take 5. Much happier. But it's definitely cool if you love diving in.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
I really have to give that one a try!
@tbornottb303
@tbornottb303 Жыл бұрын
It does sound great for the sound explorer, but it's a little too complex for my aims, which are pretty simple. For the micromanager of sounds, this may be a great choice if money isn't an object. Yet another great show with great with kitty/opossum memes and jams!
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