CJ & Joy Face-Off in "This or That" Christmas Special! (IMPOSSIBLE Christmas Quiz)

[@mrcfuldeeds]

Bible literacy is so key!! Feels like I need to revisit books, terms, and cultural references in the Bible!! Thanks guys!

[@RyanGill86]

NKJV, NASB, ESV all translate the Greek term katalyma as "inn" in Luke 2. CSB, NIV, NLT use different terms, but it was wrong to say "the Bible doesn't mention an inn". It probably wasn't a hotel as we think of it, but inn is a fine translation of the term.

[@lupevelasquez7442]

Yeah the interlinear bible translates the word from Greek to caravansary as well which is essentially the same thing.

[@Gatefan1565]

We assume 3 wise men based on the 3 gifts.

[@Servant_of_Yeshua96]

But since it doesn't say how many in the Bible, it could've been more than that or two even and they together brought the 3 gifts. Which may make more sense. I just started thinking about it. And from all the factors 3 gifts doesn't necessarily mean 3 people. Only God knows though.

[@lizbamalia5335]

Got all of them right - there has to be some time going to college to study theology comes in handy. ;-)

[@Batz-xk3nt]

The last one is actually incorrect because sol invictus didn’t even have a specific date. In fact the first writings of this “holiday” was in the mid fourth century. It seems more likely than not that the pagans copied from Christianity and not the opposite

[@lovatojonasfan1]

For the inn one, it could be either fact or fiction depending on which version of the Bible you have.

[@Th3Pr0digalS0n]

They were very likely staying with relitives. Houses in those days kept the animals on the first floor at night. So they very likely stayed in the common room/ living room with the animals for the night.

[@eliyabayer4691]

4:56 is actually wrong. It just depends what version you're reading. King James says: "And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn." (Luke 2:7 KJV) From what I've found, the original Greek word seems to mean 'a lodging place'.

[@acvieluf]

King James didn't say that. But ok. haha

[@eliyabayer4691]

@@acvieluf true :D

[@BootyBreakerForMen]

@@acvieluf I know if you read the New King James it does say that its an inn, I have it right in front of me

[@cherylkulp52]

ESV says “inn” as well

[@acvieluf]

@@BootyBreakerForMen so...king james said it? No. The bible commissioned by king james? Ahhh, there you go. I was just making a lame joke earlier.

[@virginiasebastian8739]

CJ: Well the Lowes KNOWS the Bible!😂😂

[@whitney32592]

Thank you for the laughs. I really needed them today. We got news today that they are stopping my dad's chemo and there is nothing else the doctors can do for him because the cancer keeps growing. Please pray that God steps in and that we can prove these doctors wrong and my dad can have a wonderful testimony to bring people to Jesus. Also, please pray that God gives my mom and me strength and that we remember to trust in our King.

[@BrayanRIZ]

Whitneyleigh392 will do 👍🏻. Prayer is a powerful thing. DON’T LOSE FAITH!!!! The Lord still does miracles!!!!

[@hopenation_official]

Whitney, this breaks my heart. I'm so sorry your family is going through this. My big sister was in the same situation with a brain tumor around Christmas time. God used her in incredible ways and I hope he does the same in this story, but I know you're hurting. We hurt with you and are praying for you. And if you want more prayer, you could check out the Prayer Wall - it's been a huge encouragement to me, personally. And if you want to talk with our prayer pastor, Pastor Dave, just reply here and I'll send you his email. -Stephen waynation.com/pray/

[@BrayanRIZ]

WAY Nation, I’m very sorry to hear that about your sister also! I hope and pray God keeps on using her in awesome ways and heals her, if he hasn’t already! Also thank you for everything that you guys do! God’s really using you guys and this channel in amazing, unique ways! I’ll be praying for you Whitney, and also for WAY Nation!

[@thedeanbeans1116]

Hey girl! Andrew Wommack Ministries has some amazing teaching on healing! He also has a prayer line that would love to pray with you, the people there are amazing!! The website is awmi.net and his teachings are available all for free! I’d recommend the teaching “You’ve Already Got It!” And the prayer lines number is in the website as well!!! Praying for your dad! God loves him so much! ❤️

[@faithbradley4224]

@@hopenation_official can I email him? I really need Prayer

[@stormalexa8817]

Joy’s face when she says “yes they are” 😂

[@DrewHuggins423]

So many of these questions were super nuanced.

[@TheDwarfmaiden]

That was really good. Some of the answers surprised me. :) Thank you all for sharing this :)

[@zacharywebb7197]

I got them all mostly right.. Answers in Genesis has some good info in their Christmas presentation.

[@marlenanix7993]

When he made that chicken shack comment, I Iaughed until I cried and my stomach cramped. 😂🤣😂🤣😆

[@jesusfreakinct]

It depends what translation you're using, but Luke 2:7 does say "inn;" the easily translatable, but often slightly off, NIV does not say "inn," but in most other translations it does (KJV, NKJV, ESV, NASB, etc). .

[@RyanGill86]

Sol Invictus was not established until after Christianity was popular in the Empire. Likely that Sol Invictus was a response to Christmas.

[@refugeguy777]

Point of clarification: the Magi were most likely of mixed Jewish-Babylonian ancestry; the weren't "pagan" in the sense of worshipping other gods, but they did use and rely on astronomy and astrology, a holdover from their Babylonian ancestors. However, the entire reason they were looking for the King of the Jews is because they had the prophecy of Numbers 17 that "a star shall rise out of my people, and a scepter out of Jacob." They obviously believed the prophecy, and that it was important to honor the newborn King. Further point of clarification: the last is a blatant lie. The earliest discussion we have of Jesus birth (On Solstices and Equinoxes, written in the 4th century in North Africa) determines December 25th because the old tradition was that prophets died on the same day of the year as their conception. The old calendar had Jesus' crucifixion on March 25th. Nine months after that is December 25th. The earliest claim for pagan holidays being the reason Christmas was celebrated on December 25th was made 800 years later, in the 12th century.

[@chawndel8279]

Do you have references for your 2nd claim?

[@refugeguy777]

@@chawndel8279 Astronomies and Cultures in Early Medieval Europe by Stephen McClusky, pages 26 and 27. He references this text and it's claims for how to date the Birth of Christ.

[@refugeguy777]

@@chawndel8279 To be clear, I'm not accusing Way FM of maliciously lying. They just are propagating a blatant lie because they bought the narrative.

[@Wraiths_and_Wreckage]

'Atrology' also wasnt totally foreign in Judaism. It just wasnt the horoscope crap of today. But Genesis says part of the function of the heavenly bodies is 'signs'. So they did expect God to communicate certain things through them.

[@Wraiths_and_Wreckage]

There's also good reason to suspect that part of what John says in Revelation about looking into the heavens and seeing things, refers to the night sky at certain points. Like the birth. So they paid attention to this. Didnt have Netflix.

[@Gatefan1565]

For CJ and Joy Also, magi ( mey-jahy) or magus (mey-guhs) are: the class of Zoroastrian priests in ancient Media and Persia, reputed to possess supernatural powers Or a magician, sorcerer, or astrologer.

[@JillAlexander]

Fun, fun, fun! I GOT half wrong 😍

[@PrisonbreakSPNheroes]

My pastor just preached about a lot of these... and we talked about some of it in our Christmas program this past December.

[@kellysmith5873]

You also have to take into account the times that Mary and Joseph stopped to rest on the way to Bethlehem.

[@dancomber9768]

5:04 The Bible DOES mention the Inn. Luke 2:7, KJV: And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.

[@ddannydaniel3340]

Christmas one is actually false. You guys should probably fact check your sources. There are no primary sources for the sol invictus claim.

[@jlarrybrewer1149]

Your correct. Festival of Dies Natalis Solis Invicti wasn’t celebrated until the mid fourth century. It’s thought that that day was selected either to celebrate winter solstice or to mimic Christian holidays that were already being celebrated at that time

[@audreylewis4468]

Luke 2:7 KJV says " there was no room for them in the inn".

[@malachiskelly3919]

0.58 someone should have put a gif of that part from "It's a wonderful life"

[@mcgarrtirishgal3903]

Bravo 👏 ye guys deserve a Christmas bonus 💵 🎁 :) 👍

[@callisastapp7160]

this was a great video XD listen to the wife, y'all!

[@skilledgerforever8788]

do it with Jen ledger ❤️😇

[@AshLepak]

Yes, shoutout Hampton Inn my workplace *haha*

[@matthewjoseph4970]

New title for this video: CJ & Joy Face-Off in "This or That" Pagan Special! (IMPOSSIBLE Pagan Quiz) #facts

[@julievanderleest]

I got most of them right. I just didn’t know that the Bible didn’t mention animals. Now I gotta read the Christmas story in all the gospels. Way to go to make us read the Bible.😂😊

[@Th3Pr0digalS0n]

Dude, if the stable is in a cave then she gave birth in a stable. Good lord. Stop being so nitpicky.

[@Gatefan1565]

With the route they show, it was 97 miles from Nazareth to Bethlehem.

[@hopenation_official]

Good eye! That was the shortest route Google Maps had using modern highways... 😄

[@Gatefan1565]

@@hopenation_official Thank you!!

[@Gatefan1565]

@@hopenation_official And, just wanted to share, I came across your channel a few weeks ago when "Song Battles" popped up in my feed. OMG! I binge watched all of them (been stuck at home from a work injury and limited on what I can do physically) one morning. When my wife came home, we had a lot of fun together. I would play the video and see if she could guess the songs. We are huge Veggie Tale fans (own all the shows and were excited for their return) so the Veggie Tale one was our favorite! It is also fun seeing fellow Christ followers having fun together. I enjoy the great content and can't wait for more! God bless you all and Merry Christmas!!!

[@hopenation_official]

@@Gatefan1565 that's so great to hear! That's why we make these, so thanks for sharing your story. 🙏 Merry Christmas to you and your wife (and praying for your return from that work injury)!

[@JasonJones-sv1xe]

I love these videos!

[@kellysmith5873]

The shepherds were the 1st Jews to worship Jesus at His Birth, and the Magi were the 1st Gentiles to worship Him.

[@MKbutnotthecia]

The wisemen were astronomers- maybe they believed in the whole Zodiac/future in the stars thing-

[@zacharywebb7197]

Astronomy and astrology are slightly different.

[@lizbamalia5335]

@@zacharywebb7197 Yet at the time they weren't treated as separately as today. From what I know, their field of study included both, astronomy and astrology, among other sciences of the day.

[@Johonavich49]

Luke 2:7 And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the INN. The Bible does mention the word inn.

[@JoseEReyna]

My grandparents and great-grandparents travel 100 miles to Mexico. A human can do it.

[@josephine6764]

I am questioning everything I learned as a child

[@ktma21blogger]

Some are more options rather than fact or fiction... :/

[@Servant_of_Yeshua96]

I totally called the Wiseman magi thing. It makes sense because being called Wiseman back then typically meant you held onto some weird philosophy or were into astrology and all the signs and whatnot. Paganism comes is many forms but all bad.

[@ethanrichard4950]

Crying is communication for baby needs

[@zacharysiple783]

2:37 Read John 11:35-Jesus did cry.

[@zacharysiple783]

@chiibichan misaki Oh good point.

[@RadRelics]

I am afraid because these people do not know their bible. haha

[@jennifermoser3656]

You are wrong Luke 2:7 there was no room for them in the inn

[@BootyBreakerForMen]

yeah I looked it up becasue I thought it said inn and it does

[@Gatefan1565]

It depends on the translation you are using.

[@jennifermoser3656]

@@Gatefan1565 king James version all the way

[@andrealmoseley6575]

Who else is looking all this up

[@kellysmith5873]

It's possible that the cave where Jesus was born that was used as a stable was owned by relatives of either Mary or Joseph. They wanted to find somewhere quiet for the birth of Jesus.

[@fluterify]

I think by best estimate Jesus was born around April.

[@st.clairdancing2094]

Where is Nazareth from Bethlehem? The donkey would have probable been used to carry their goods and Mary would have ridden some.

[@cbrowns]

The Bible doesnt mention any inn????????? Luke 2:7 And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the INN.

[@naidahayslette79]

Luke 2 KJV says no room in the inn.

[@slinkybucks]

These were easy.

[@michaelbean8404]

Ummm. Ok maybe I'm numb but Luke 2: 7 very clearly mentions an Inn. I checked numerous versions too. 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@sarahtrussell5058]

The word in Greek is 'upper room' or guest room. Same as used for the last supper.

[@melandjon2]

"Kataluma" mentioned in Luke 2:7 is described as a lodging place, inn, eating room, dining room, guestchamber/guest room in one's home. Yep, Luke 2:7, inn is one of the english translations for this greek word. Either way, I wouldn't let this detail take away from the glorious history of CHRIST's birth. 🙂👍🏻

[@michaelbean8404]

@@sarahtrussell5058 This may be the Greek, however as a translation that becomes inn or lodging place. So if we are only speaking Greek then no it doesent mention an inn, however the English translation of the greek word would be inn therefore it mentions and inn or paid lodging.

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[@jmichaelm915]

there were animals there because the bible says the animals worshiped him

[@sowertosow]

Matthew 2 KJV 1 Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem, 2 Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him. 3 When Herod the king had heard these things, he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him. 4 And when he had gathered all the chief priests and scribes of the people together, he demanded of them where Christ should be born. 5 And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet, 6 And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Juda, art not the least among the princes of Juda: for out of thee shall come a Governor, that shall rule my people Israel. 7 Then Herod, when he had privily called the wise men, enquired of them diligently what time the star appeared. 8 And he sent them to Bethlehem, and said, Go and search diligently for the young child; and when ye have found him, bring me word again, that I may come and worship him also. 9 When they had heard the king, they departed; and, lo, the star, which they saw in the east, went before them, till it came and stood over where the young child was. 10 When they saw the star, they rejoiced with exceeding great joy. 11 And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense and myrrh. 12 And being warned of God in a dream that they should not return to Herod, they departed into their own country another way. 13 And when they were departed, behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I bring thee word: for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him. 14 When he arose, he took the young child and his mother by night, and departed into Egypt: 15 And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son. 16 Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had diligently inquired of the wise men. 17 Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremiah the prophet, saying, 18 In Rama was there a voice heard, lamentation, and weeping, and great mourning, Rachel weeping for her children, and would not be comforted, because they are not. 19 But when Herod was dead, behold, an angel of the Lord appeareth in a dream to Joseph in Egypt, 20 Saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and go into the land of Israel: for they are dead which sought the young child's life. 21 And he arose, and took the young child and his mother, and came into the land of Israel. 22 But when he heard that Archelaus did reign in Judaea in the room of his father Herod, he was afraid to go thither: notwithstanding, being warned of God in a dream, he turned aside into the parts of Galilee: 23 And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene.

[@verblu8507]

Uhhhhhhhhhh......

[@michaelmitchellmax]

Not pagan sorcerers.

[@michavandenheuvel4466]

Its fiction that there were 3 wise men (based on three gifts) but they didn't follow a star to Bethlehem either. They probably only saw Jesus months after his birth so they likely followed a star to Nazareth.

[@Th3Pr0digalS0n]

The bible calls Jesus a young child, so they most likely found him around his second birthday.

[@lifeoflightministry2280]

Matthew 2:4-8 mentions Bethlehem is where the Wise men where to find Jesus! Verse 16 talks about Herod killing all the babies in Bethlehem too!

[@trina20disneyfanatic]

The Bible does not mention the number of wise men, but it was most likely a large caravan, and Matthew says they went to King Herod and asked him where to find the new King of the Jews, that they had seen his star, and they had come to worship him.

[@TheEllaTB]

Uh..he didn't "grow up" in Egypt. He only spent a couple of years there. He grew up in Nazareth. These questions are twisted and not very reliable for working with

[@michaelyarnell1559]

Yeah, that claim was FICTION. Some Catholic traditions say Jesus was in Egypt 3 months. While I'm not Catholic, I believe this one could be true. Either way Jesus definitely did NOT grow up in Egypt. Jesus grew up in Nazareth. Also wherever you put a manger IS a stable, it doesn't have to be made of wood.

[@iamjustsaying4787]

Sad how little they know the Scriptures. The traditions of men hides truth.

[@scurvydog20]

Ok lost a bit of respect. Christmas is not from sol invictus. Christmas was calculated based on the believe Christ was conceived the same day he died so Easter plus 9 months gives us Christmas. It why Easter orthodox celebrate both a week later

[@JoseEReyna]

The wise man or Magi why not pagan sorcerer's they study the stars not cast spells. They would have been Stone in Israel. The law of Moses says it.