Don't ruin your engine - Ethanol and fuel stabilizer for boat engines

[@WayneTheBoatGuy]

Learn more about ethanol in our fuel, and how to deal with it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pnS5XmWQpcuAoas

[@boyo57]

Open the lid and squeeze gently and stabilizer will flow up tube into measure gauge. Its faster 😊

[@rsr3959]

Yeah, this method is painful to watch...

[@michaelwilson486]

Some people just like making things as difficult as they can

[@boyo57]

@@michaelwilson486 Its painful to watch 👍..😂😂😂🤣🤣

[@gregkobylarz8648]

Just squeeze the bottle!

[@Gregg0112]

Yea he doesn't know

[@howieallen2339]

OMG, that was painful. Take the small cover off and gently squeeze the bottle.

[@WayneTheBoatGuy]

LOL - I only learned that trick by reading another person's comment!

[@dustinfrisk3262]

Yes omfg squeeeeze the bottle bud! Squeeeeezzzzeee the bottle to fill the measuring cup brother please! Stabil engineers designed that for a reason friend! Set bottle on flat surface, remove cap and Sauer bottle and watch oil rise thru that amazing Sid tube and fill the measuring reservoir! Omg it’ll blow ur mind!

[@esta738]

That's quite how the bottle works, unscrew the cap from the little container just a tad bit. Then squeeze the bottle. Now you don't have to wait and do the ridiculous tipping and waiting. Give it a try.

[@1D10CRACY]

Good information. I haven't been using any stabilizers in mine, but I run the carb dry at the end of the season. My general rule of thumb is not to use gas any older than 6 months without stabilizer and I've been seeing a lot of videos where they think the stabilizer doesn't do anything. Knock on wood, I've had no issues for many years. :D

[@bobs_photo]

I use Stabil 360 Marine in all my four stroke engines. Lawn mower, edger, pressure washer, push mower, snow blower, Yamaha 2.5 hp outboard- anything four stroke. In my two stroke Stihl engines I only use Stihl Moto Mix. I have never drained a carburetor and have stored fuel in this equipment and the gas can mixed with Stabil 360 Marine for over 8 months. After a long PA winter two pulls is all it takes to start anything. Only buy the blue "Marine" Stabil, the pink is not designed to deal with Ethanol. In the Yamaha 2.5 hp four stroke outboard, the jets are so tiny in the carb due to EPA requirements a fuel stabilizer that is designed to deal with ethanol is a must for storage.

[@martinschulz9381]

Right on. I used ethanol gas treated with Sta-bil in my small engines for years, before I learned that non ethanol gas was available in my area. I never had a problem with phase separation or carburetor corrosion. In that time I heard countless stories of ethanol related problems. Because of EPA mandates in past years, modern gas just doesn't last as long as it use to. Stabilizer will extend its life and prevent many problems.

[@mattie3595]

Use Marine Sta-Bil or Marine Seafoam all the time. Although I've gotten lazy & just dump the entire bottle in. Zero issues. Good buddy of mine had a new 4stroke snowblower that wasn't used for a season. Went to fire it up - fuel leaking everywhere. The small fuel lines had all turned to mush. Small engine repair shop said 100% ethanol issue - sees it all the time.

[@Tlane117]

Great video and i'm glad someone already mentioned you can just squeeze the bottle and it's waaayyyyy faster.

[@WayneTheBoatGuy]

Yeah I’ll never live that down lol!

[@AshleyStewart-m4j]

I believe in Marine Stabil! Because of surgery, I left my boat with 85 gals of E10, a full tank, since summer of 2020. A month ago I drained all the gas into 5 gal cans and ran it in my F250. It cranked and ran fine but the gas mileage was down about 15% from average. Two years in i added a second bottle. If it wasnt for the stabil marine I have no doubt that E10 gas would be bad! Now i'm refilling with Non-ethanol. I still had to clean the anti-siphon valves, fuel hoses and generator carb, but it could have been WAY WORSE!

[@salvcolorado9874]

Question you add the Sta-bil and also the two stroke oil every time you full the gas tank??

[@jbreamsiii]

Another tip, put the Stabil in first, then the gas. It mixes more completely.

[@WayneTheBoatGuy]

Good point - but sometimes I'm not sure how much fuel I am adding - like if my tank isn't empty!

[@nicksperry9936]

I've always done that.

[@leea.6101]

Take the small cap off and squeeze the bottle.... much easier

[@WayneTheBoatGuy]

I totally did not know that trick until after I posted this video LOL

[@nicksperry9936]

Stabil is awesome. My Dad has always used Stabils in all of the boats he's owned.

[@WayneTheBoatGuy]

It seems to help!

[@CATOperatorMerica]

Thanks man, helpful for a new boat owner!

[@WayneTheBoatGuy]

You're welcome -I love making videos for new boaters!

[@mendiviloutdoorstv]

What octanage do you run your outboard motor? Do you run premium or regular?

[@WayneTheBoatGuy]

I run 87 octane (regular)

[@WayneTheBoatGuy]

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[@robbidi123]

I believe ethanol weakens and hardens rubber seals, and that alcohol in general absorbs moisture from the air from the exhaust port and will rust up the crankshaft bearings. Good to plug the pipes up.

[@rickweaver7997]

Exact measurements are not needed. If you add a little too much there will be no ill effects. I use StaBil Marine in all of my gas powered yard equipment as well as in my 70hp Yamaha 2 stroke. StaBil in, gas next so far, so good, 20 years.

[@WayneTheBoatGuy]

Nice!

[@CTRadventures]

So we just got our new boat an 88 ranger 393v and we have loved it! It's a 2 stroke V6. I had it down to a science where I could get it to fire on the first or second key turn. However the last two days I went out. The start sounded different like it start to turn and then turned off before firing a very short crank. I continued to prime it and choke it and about to 6/8th try it turned over and ran like a champ. Two variables that have changed. Here in Florida, the weather has got a lot hotter and now it's raining more than last week. I have been using non ethanol gas w no problems. I'm starting to wonder if its the ethanol or something else. If it's hotter in the morning so maybe I'm over choking it. For me, it has always been 3-4 pumps of the key press (choke) then the hot foot 2/3 down and boom! Any advice would be great!

[@CTRadventures]

Btw I have 2 tanks (21) that I never use completely up and I go out at least once a week

[@danbarone7643]

Another internet expert who can’t even figure out how to use the stabilizer bottle, but wants to instruct everyone else. Oh well, it has some comedic value I guess.

[@daviddesmond2143]

I put new fuel lines on my outboard. Within 6 months the fuel with ethanol had caused the insides to fall apart and clog. I cost me a ton of money getting it serviced to find the problem. They replaced many unnecessary parts. Finally they determined the crap ethanol gas had eaten the insides of the lines.

[@WayneTheBoatGuy]

And those were new lines? Dang.

[@TN-Vols-Fan]

How do you get all of the fuel out of your outboard? Are you disconnecting your fuel line and running the outboard until it runs out of fuel?

[@WayneTheBoatGuy]

Before winter - yes. I actually disconnect the fuel line and spay fogging oil in the carbs until the engine quits. So any "fuel" left in the carbs is mostly fogging oil.

[@TN-Vols-Fan]

@@WayneTheBoatGuy Thank you for the reply Wayne, I appreciate it.

[@kerrywages9631]

Hey Wayne..Really like your videos...I'm a new small boat owner (3.5 merc w/ an internal tank). For seasonal storage in addition to draining the carb, would you leave gas in the internal tank (with StaBil) or should you drain the internal tank as well?

[@WayneTheBoatGuy]

I've left gas in mine in the past - but I also run the carb dry. If the gas you're using is ethanol free to begin with, it should be okay. I've been having trouble with my 2.5 Merc this season and I think some of it is fuel related.

[@kerrywages9631]

@@WayneTheBoatGuy Thanks for the input Wayne

[@ODLid1]

It was explained to me that small engines especially older ones do not have stainless steel parts in them as do car engines and the ethanol eats/corrodes rusts the small parts of engines

[@darrylmcleman6456]

GREAT TOPIC Mr.Boat GUY!!! As of Oct !,2023 we can no longer buy ethanol free fuel in my corner of Canada!CHEERS from HERE!

[@WayneTheBoatGuy]

Dang - that's not good news. Be sure to try and use up your older fuel - because I have run into problems even with treated ethanol fuel once it's more than about 4 months old. I usually pour it into my truck if it's older. All my little engines prefer fresher fuel.

[@darrylmcleman6456]

Will put it in my car once it is 90 days olld.I also run the boat motors once a month thru the winter if I dont go out on the water.@@WayneTheBoatGuy

[@ViniciusBalance]

Thanks for the video Wayne!...have you ever used the MOTUL STABILIZER?

[@WayneTheBoatGuy]

Thanks! I have not tried that product - but it might be very similar.

[@copper24740]

I bought a 2021 8hp mercury and they told me to use stabil ethanol treatment at every fill up if I don’t have access to ethanol free gas.

[@WayneTheBoatGuy]

Yes that's what I do as well - with all of my boat engines.

[@stevenlengyel9701]

You’re only talking about boats, right? I’m trying to keep small engines running but my fuel keeps going bad.

[@WayneTheBoatGuy]

They make a non-marine Sta-Bil which might help if you're using E10 or E15

[@paulfennell01]

Ok Wayne - but does this mean I don't have to mix my 50:1 oil in it anymore if I do this stabilization treatment for my 2 stroke?

[@WayneTheBoatGuy]

No - still add the oil. The ethanol treatment is just to help with the ethanol separation.

[@TheLeftwing71]

It does not prevent phase separation that is another issue with ethanol. .

[@bobbydenezza7795]

I have a 2013 Yamaha vx deluxe waverunner and I use the Stabil 360 marine in my gas I put in my jetski. Do you recommend mixing in Engine Med Rx with Stabil 360 marine in the gas or is it not necessary?

[@WayneTheBoatGuy]

That's a great question! The Engine Med Rx (which I only recently learned about) seems like a good product and if I was to use just one of these, I would probably go with the Engine Med Rx. I really wonder whether or not all of these treatment products are essentially the exact same thing.

[@bobbydenezza7795]

@@WayneTheBoatGuy well I read on the back of both of them and they appear to do the same thing as far as protecting your engine.

[@ryanknight5300]

Be sure to keep the bottle in upright position when squeezing

[@stanleybest8833]

At the end of the day, I turn over my 4 stroke and pour all the gas back in a storage tank. I even pump out the primer bulb.

[@HuyNguyen-cw7es]

So do Iu mix gas with 2 stroke oil then stabilizer?

[@WayneTheBoatGuy]

Yeah!

[@2010stoof]

What's your thoughts about using this for all my 2 and 4 stroke lawn equipment? Label used to say 1 oz to 10 gal for every day use, 1 oz to 5 gal for storage. But now it only says 1 oz to 10 gal.

[@WayneTheBoatGuy]

I think with having ethanol in our fuel, it makes sense to add this to all our small motors, especially if they're older or going to be sitting for a few months with fuel in them.

[@lgoamity]

Yeah I've been curious about the "revised" instructions over the last 10(?) or 15 years for much of the Stabil products line. "Storage" (Red) was/is basically the Original product... and had instructions on double dosing for up to 2 year Fuel Stabilizing AND use as a Fuel System Cleaner (at Maintenance or Preventative doses). Seems like Stabil 360 is now their "Every day" focused product... While I hopefully rarely "need" Marine Stabil for much of my 2 and 4 cycle engines I often use it anyway thinking it may offer more Moisture and Rust Inhibitors then "Storage" offers. Recently saw several videos comparing various additives used for like a 5-6 month (Winterized Equipment put away and not used/started til "Spring") storage and previous videos that covered an almost 2 year test with monthly startups to confirm when/if a particular additive/engine would fail from the fuel eventually plugging the Carb and showing what that looked like... In those tests they used Stabil 360 Protection instead of Storage or Maine, likely because they wanted to test the various Ethanol breakdown claims... In both tests 360 did well. In the "Winterized" test its Carb was still clean. Unlike some of the other additives which showed visual signs of fuel breakdown. In the long-term test it took 2nd place to an engineered Non-Ethanol fuel (VP Fuel 4 Cycle)... But did show breakdown at like 18-19 months. So somewhere between 6-18 months it (360) wasn't able to stabilize the fuel but it still outlasted the other additives by keeping the fuel "useable". Would really have liked to see if/how Storage and Marine would have done better... I'd think they both would have

[@stancreech43]

Good grief. You spent 8 minutes to start giving us the information

[@SBDavin]

Myself, I'd simply drive to another county in Maryland to buy non-ethanol fuel. Glad it works for you though.

[@WayneTheBoatGuy]

Yeah the closest non-ethanol fuel for me is 45 minutes away and a $2.50 toll.

[@wingshonda2799]

if you take the little cap off and squeeze the bottle (easy) it fills faster.

[@WayneTheBoatGuy]

LOL - I learned that important fact from the comments on this video!

[@Kamawah]

According to Dan McTeague, a noted petroleum analyst, Shell and Esso 91 are both ethanol free. All other grades from the companies have some ethanol content, but the mid-grade blend is pure gas, which means it not only corrodes less than ethanol blends, but is less likely to deteriorate when stored.

[@WayneTheBoatGuy]

Since you mentioned Esso, I assume you're talking about non-US fuel. I have always assumed that here in the US all of our fuel brands & grades have ethanol in them, and I know our fuels vary state to state as well - but this is potentially a really good tip!

[@ryanpasmore3676]

Yes, that's a Canadian thing... premium fuel at a lot of places is ethanol free

[@MikeMFnJones1]

@@ryanpasmore3676 no longer the case in Ontario.

[@raymondgarcia5954]

I have 3 gallon how much would I need thanks

[@Phone-sh7jg]

Google

[@tbrown737]

i accidentally put 3oz of treatment in my 6 gallon tank today... did i hurt anything i will make sure to burn off the rest of the tank tomorrow.. thanks for any info

[@WayneTheBoatGuy]

Nah a little extra occasionally doesn't hurt anything!

[@2010stoof]

They guarantee up to 3x the amount not hurting anything. If that ever happens again I'd run it, fill more fresh gas, run again, fill more fresh gas, etc. To knock down the concentration.

[@Phone-sh7jg]

Can cause your carbuerator to blow ofg

[@williamsalte5484]

What's the problem with E85?

[@WayneTheBoatGuy]

Gasoline with ethanol added has been connected to various issues especially with older outboards and marine engines. These range from carburetor damage, to fuel hose collapse and fuel breakdown with significant water being in the fuel system especially after sitting for several months.

[@PlugNuster]

Omg you did that the HARD way, lmao. Open the end that pours and squeeze, that's it.

[@shawncordeiroTerraceBC]

bizzz wrong hold uprite remove reservoir cap lightly sqweeze until desired height your trying to acheive BY the way just discovered your channel volvo penta oil change ALSO i just use PURPLE/marine gas 91 octane with 87 octane price

[@WayneTheBoatGuy]

I only finally learned HOW to squeeze these bottles from the comments on this video!

[@choppergirl]

Well, 0:15 says it all.

[@rayminthecat]

looks like nasa had lay offs and stabil hired a rocket scientist to redesign the plastic bottle!

[@tfmmitchell796]

Yes, what he said

[@jimweigand8937]

You should put stabil in tank before put gas in your gas tank

[@WayneTheBoatGuy]

But sometimes we don't know how much fuel it is going to take - especially in small tanks that aren't empty.

[@doyle4170]

It's like watching the Chinese water torture.

[@lindawalizer2880]

Remove the lid and squeeze the bottle to measure Stabil amount!!!

[@WayneTheBoatGuy]

Yeah I had no idea how to properly use the bottle when I made this video!

[@dbp6111]

Boat guy... You don't know boats and I take your man card

[@WayneTheBoatGuy]

The lack of knowledge I had with regards to squeezing the bottle definitely warrants the revoking of my man card. I agree and hereby surrender it to you. I will try to earn it back someday, but I know I have a long journey to earn it back!

[@davediesel90]

​@@WayneTheBoatGuythe humility right there got it back 😊

[@BrandonSmith-ok6rp]

If you remove the small lid and squeeze bottle it will fill 🤦‍♂️. You shouldn't be posting information for others

[@oufannamedbrandon6715]

Surely he's just messing with us, right? He had to have accidentally squeezed it when he removed the lid and saw it fill up much faster.. 💡☝️

[@WayneTheBoatGuy]

Lol no - I literally have been taking flak for this for years now. I never knew until I saw comments on this video!

[@mawk27]

Yeah, I stopped watching when you didn’t even know how to fill up the stabil.

[@WayneTheBoatGuy]

Yeah and I only learned how to do it from comments on this video!

[@fasteddie5314]

WTF? Goofy. Just squeeze the bottle with the cap loose to fill the measuring chamber.

[@noneyerbidness]

Hard to trust the opinions of a guy who doesn't know how to use a fuel stabilizer bottle. Lol

[@sashly99]

Lol!! Just squeeze the bottle with the cap off! Its like act mouthwash!

[@WayneTheBoatGuy]

Yup - The comments from this video is how I learned this!

[@penguin2ab]

Jesus man squeeze the bottle like a normal human!

[@WayneTheBoatGuy]

I honestly had no idea that you could/should squeeze the bottle when I made this video. It's so obvious to me now - but I had no idea that's how it was done. This is why I started making videos because nobody was around to teach me all of these things.

[@kylemanning193]

That is NOT how you use those bottles😅😅😅😂

[@WayneTheBoatGuy]

Right after I made this video - I leaned and now I know!

[@KissmyBasss]

Lol, you are supposed to squeeze it bro

[@WayneTheBoatGuy]

lol - I learned that AFTER I made this video!

[@xlandscaper]

😂

[@GMCon42s]

lol