Wazer: Desktop Waterjet Cutting

[@MattTester]

I love the way this technology is progressing, other than laser cleaners water jet cutting is one of the ultimate maker tools.

[@InfiniteWonderz2]

i love people like this, so new to the game, with a killer product and honestly from looking at their kickstarter, they are going to have a very long history

[@jsholt123]

SO AWESOME ...THIS ...This right here is what makes inventing SO FREAKING AWESOME ...the sky would be the limit ...only the imagination would stop a person if they had something like this

[@63256325N]

They're gonna make millions. Great idea, and good luck for the future.

[@1endell]

Beautiful work. This cutting machine is not only a good idea but also a profitable machine. Good luck to the engineers!

[@Jer_Schmidt]

I am truly excited for this!! Thanks for the video!

[@burhanzahrai3970]

Can this machine cut 1 cm high letters for jewelry purposes?

[@michaelgaines9808]

How thick can it cut Acrylics and Polycarbonate and at what speed? and what size is the bed?

[@lawrencediggs7957]

Cost?

[@karandex]

Great work guys. Kickstarter is for you guys and not for scammer

[@dieterjosef]

I'd be more interested to modify a high pressure cleaner so that it at least can cut plywood or plastic. Can it be done or is there too much difference in pressure between a waterjet and a high pressure cleaner?

[@relishgargler]

For plywood or plastic, you're better off getting a laser, I think.

[@thatoneguy99100]

Waiting for mine to be delivered- very excited!

[@nathandean1687]

problem with 110 voltage. it can and does vary. from 150-120 high side to 100 - 105 volts and some cases 95 volts.

[@jenniferwhite6089]

how long will it take and how mush would it cost and how big will the cutting bed be able to cut

[@theomnipresent1]

www.kickstarter.com/projects/1294137530/the-first-desktop-waterjet-cutter/

[@saadiqbal5112]

can we cut small and near jewelry designs with it . like personalized name lockets ?

[@Traderjoe]

This is amazing! I know a lot of people who would use this, especially knife makers! This guy will be rich!

[@Skidtire]

I was thinking of making unhard blanks then sharpening them

[@hurcorh]

He says in this video up to 3/16" steel

[@hurcorh]

Well there you go!

[@beachboardfan9544]

I highly doubt knife makers will be interested in this, on their website the knife they have listed said it took 118min to cut the knife profile. It could be done faster by hand on equipment that cost less than $200. The cost to production output just isn't there. Hell you could make an entire knife by hand from blank flat stock to finish in 2 hours.

[@bluedeath996]

Can you reuse the abrasive? Is it sand or gypsum like the big machines? Will there be other sizes? Will there be a 240v version for the rest of the world? How much power in watts does it require per inch?

[@Keith_Ward]

I thought they use garnet for the abrasive? Probably not reusable unless there is an easy way to dry, mill, and sift out the contaminants. It would be sort of like a muller that is used in the casting industry in order to recondition casting sand. Not sure about the condition of used particles, they may loose their "edge" for cutting after being used once. But I agree, it would be nice to reuse.

[@bluedeath996]

You are correct it is garnet, I had a brain fart. But a professional cutter runs at a minimum of 12000psi and some run at 60000psi and need to be run under water because the sound can rupture your eardrums, this is on the other hand is pretty tame and probably doesn't degrade the garnet very much.

[@OldIronShops]

what is the cost for one?

[@byroncroft2365]

5,999.99

[@HugTheBear55]

i might actually get one of these. Doesn't seem too difficult for beginners which is huge!

[@NavyCuda]

Very nice! I currently run an Omax 55100, so I'm a little spoiled getting to use a full sized waterjet.

[@EAFSQ9]

lol what that omax 55100 is larger than this

[@joeinkentucky]

So my question is, what is the cutting material cost per inch/hour/ etc? It is NICE that it will cut things out like that, but if you cut a Christmas tree ornament using $30.00 worth of abrasive, it isn't practical. Will this machine use ANY suitable cutting material, or is this a case of getting the razor for "free" and being required to buy the cutting material from the manufacturer (to maintain a warranty, or for other issues)? Lets use the bicycle sprocket as the example. What was the cost of the cutting material used to cut out that sprocket?

[@cmb1972]

looks like it permeated the layers on the carbon fiber wazer piece at the end.

[@markjohnson9402]

Hope someone buys one of these and takes apart the head. Would love to see how it works. If you could boost the pressure a little it would work great on the 8 x 10 cnc table i'm building. Of course I can cut up to 3/4 inch steel with a plasma cutter, and 10 inch steel with oxy acetylene. So might not be necessary. Of course cutting something like leather or rubber could be useful.

[@Reggie4617]

How to get a price on a job?

[@RonTan-i7r]

this is some really *cutting* edge technology

[@Cactusworkshopchannel]

I'm peed my pants so hard i cut them

[@1976ClassicCelica]

$6000 is a bit hefty for a desktop toy. I bought a CNC router kit for less than $2000 Canadian and it works great. Still a toy but at least I can justify it a little more and modify it more. I might have to try making one myself one day. These are cool.

[@ScrapwoodCity]

Looks like an interesting machine

[@keithammleter3824]

Check at 8:12: Cutting the sprocket in 4.7 mm aluminium: takes 1 hour 36 minutes and 14 Kg of garnet costing about $8. The hoppers are specified to take 13.5 kg. Taking into account set-up and clean-up, you need over 2 hours to do that sprocket. Nobody would make a sprocket out of aluminium of course - you need something much harder, so a lot more time and many times as much garnet. The machine cannot be used unattended. This seems to indicate that cutting sprockets and gears is not something this machine can be used for.

[@Chan-rc8oh]

can it cut granite...?? just curiuos...

[@xcellone12]

This I love! would totally complement with our laser machine.

[@PurakAdhikari]

if it can cut through virtually anything then won't the base material wear out over time?

[@lilypower]

probably, like in every cutting/grinding machine mankind has ever made =P the beds are made as thin and hard as possible, if you look closely you can see the mesh in the bottom, i dont know how thick it is because all you see is a veery thin edge so with hiles between so the abrasive has as little as possible to cath on to, in heavier industri machines it's ofc a lot heftier but for this small scale it looks good :)

[@PurakAdhikari]

I didn't notice that in the video. Thanks.

[@isavedtheuniverse]

Not only will that little sprocket take 96 minutes to cut, it will take 31 lbs of abrasive. Wow.

[@freddychang4100]

Setting up a Studio fiitting only 110vac cnc mahines, List: Wazer waterjet, Epilog Laser- Universal laser, Tormach 770MX cnc milling machine, Tormach 15L-slant pro cnc lathe, Tormach Grinder, Tormach Bandsaw....

[@vladoportos]

Ships US and Canada only... well I'll wait then for chinese version :)

[@MattTester]

It may be unpopular to give kudos to China but I've had my CTC 3D printer for 9 months and it's great.

[@vladoportos]

I have CNC and 60w Laser Cutter from china, both work fine, the biggest plus is they ship almost anywhere :)

[@thinkhendo]

I find your use of comments as a form of advertising rather distasteful. Please stop it.

[@vladoportos]

What ? I did not advertise any specific machine or seller, just replied to the comment... the advertisement is the whole video... Its not my fault, taht they dont ship the machine to the rest of the world.

[@elvin33321]

Jake Henderson Another triggered racist.

[@SpecificLove7]

Very nice

[@blizatrex]

is this tested now?

[@baniporu9435]

Used to be below $5k now it’s a whopping $7k plus! What happened?

[@butterflyj685]

Now in 2024, it's $10,000. Inflation!

[@theomnipresent1]

A 'Desktop' Waterjet that needs its own desk, but still really awesome though!!!

[@nasigoreng6916]

where sell this? how much?

[@GeofDumas]

the cut times on the kickstarter page don't make sense. 118 minutes for a knife blade, but even if it had a 40 inches on the perimeter and cut at the slowest listed speed, it would only take 66 minutes.

[@EcoMouseChannel]

I know, right? You could cut out a knife blank in just a few minutes with a bandsaw. Sometimes, these nerdy types who've never actually used real equipment get all caught up in slow, techy gadgets. I'm looking at you 3D printers!

[@GeofDumas]

I could see this being a good use of money if the knifemaker is trying to save $$$ on damascus or timascus, which can add up super quick. Otherwise, I guess it'd be good for proofing a print that they're sending to a waterjet company. That might save time and lower anxiety, which is a plus. For things like gears and other things that may normally be done with a series of complex bandsaw cuts, drills, and filework like you might see on Clickspring, it would be great if the shop did that stuff all the time but never made large numbers of a single part

[@JamesBuckleyusa]

Or you could setup 12 blanks to be cut up overnight while you're sleeping...

[@EcoMouseChannel]

$6000 is a lot of money for a "desk hold down" on the off chance that, maybe, someday, you'll get around to using it. It's kind of like a color laser printer. If you are a graphic designer, you'll use it all the time for proofs and printing things out to test. But if you just are a regular guy, who buys one at Costco, then it'll likely sit most of the year unused. Kind of how 3D printers are turning out to be for a lot of people. I don't think of this as being comparable to something like an Omax, (one that I've sent off part to have cut) because cut quality, kerf and draft aren't going to be the same. I can see the Wazer being more for one-offs and prototype work. Because a part that was cut here, and worked in your assembly, might have completely different tolerances to a part that you sent out. But back to what I was saying, you, as the inventor/engineer/maker guy needs to understand all the various machining processes, and be comfortable with outsourcing your projects to larger shops that have those capabilities. Because there are subtle differences between machining, laser, plasma, EDM and water jet. It's important to know why you'd choose one over the other. Because you'd just end up making something more expensive and complicated than it has to be, just because you are enamored with the techy-coolness of having a water jet, when say, plasma might be just fine at a fraction of the cost.

[@EcoMouseChannel]

Of all the processes, water jet needs the most baby sitting. Too much can go wrong all at once. You've got super high pressures, splashing water and electricity, clogged nozzles, staying on top of abrasive loading... water jet is not a beginner's tool. It's more for shops that have outgrown their plasma tables, or need the very specific cold cut edge properties that plasma and laser can not offer. And you'll know when you need to know about that. The one cool thing about water jet is it's ability to cut cork, rubber, leather, fabric, acrylic, wood, metal etc... However, laser can do the same thing, with much less hassle and clean-up. No tank management, sludge removal, water scum & slime...

[@bbreeuwer4577]

110V (115V) only. What about the rest of the world, not interesting enough? I find it a bit of a waste of developing time, nowadays it's not to much of an hassle to make things 115/230V compatible. Only thing that's a bit more complicated is getting the CE license, but you don't have to go for that straight away.

[@JohnPavilonis]

This is a common problem when moving from country to country. There are step down transformers everywhere. www.amazon.com/Voltage-Converter-220-240-110/dp/B001ES8YY6 This is a brand new product developed in the US. I'm sure with greater popularity and success they will build internal electronics to sell their product everywhere. Give them a little bit of time to get the business started.

[@takl23]

🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@ww998w]

+JohnPavilonis do you know how big the transformer need to be for high watt machines?

[@ich_net_du]

We get 400V from 3 phases, where each is 230/220V. This allows for a lower current and thinner copper wires

[@xKatjaxPurrsx]

a 5000w stepup transformer is fairly cheap: www.amazon.com/ELC-T-5000-5000-Watt-Converter-Transformer/dp/B00EBC5HSS/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1473785888&sr=1-1&keywords=5000w+step+up The problem is the cost of garnet you will go through. They state 0.33lbs/min. The example bicycle crank on their kickstarter took 168 minutes to cut, so you're looking at around 55lbs of garnet at somewhere between $0.60 and $1.10 per pound. If the transformer is an issue for you, imagine paying for and storing that much (unreusable) garnet for each cut.

[@Gewooneengamers]

Europe please?

[@denysrod3678]

So Cool ! Congratulations , wish U the best !!!

[@LaserGadgets]

Military has gone metric, science as well...what is the rest of the US waiting for? Watching the OCC guys makes it crystal clear. HEY RICK, WAS IS 3/8th or 5/8th....come the fuck on.

[@markdaniel8740]

LaserGadgets the US managed to send more people to the moon than every country that is exclusively metric combined. and 3/8 or 5/8 is no more confusing than 3mm or 5mm

[@LaserGadgets]

3+5mm=8mm.......5/18 + 2/12 = what? I can do it, but I honestly need a paper and a pencil for that. Pull your head out of your ass dude. No offense, but that was the biggst piece of crap on the comments on youtube EVER written xD

[@chaklee435]

​@@LaserGadgets You're being disingenuous or dumb, since 12 and 18 doesn't really show up as denominators in the US system. 3mm+5mm=8mm is the same as 3/1000m + 5/1000m = 8/1000m. What makes 1000 more special than 8 or 16? Metric is better because more people use it, and ONLY because more people use it. The US will switch to metric overnight when the rest of the world decides to start counting in base 12.

[@LaserGadgets]

@@chaklee435 Moron....you dont even get my point. Its EASIER to add 30/1000 to 1/20 of an inch? Are you so damn stupid???

[@Arthurlabs1]

Why is so hard to get intouch with these guys Can't find a phone number any where I put up the money and no response, is it just a scam?

[@WAZER]

You can reach out to WAZER for fulfillment and technical support at [e-mail]

[@WildmanTech]

That's awesome! I want one!

[@Leonn_.]

Hm can it cut carbon

[@Braeden123698745]

It can cut glass, so I'd think it can cut carbon.

[@pastramichop]

What structure of carbon

[@Leonn_.]

Like 3mm thick carbon

[@pastramichop]

oh like carbon fiber? idk i don't why it couldn't

[@Leonn_.]

Idk

[@sreeprakashneelakantan5051]

Wow!! All the very best

[@reymejella2221]

how much desktop water jet

[@Mernaksa20]

rey mejella 10000$

[@fivefingerfullprice3403]

This guy looks really young and then he turns around and he has this bigfoot back.

[@MCKoolperson9]

Send a prototype to Diresta

[@Indyreptiles]

I really want one

[@allmyfriendsareahole]

based on the specs on the kickstarter.. the Cog they showed took 168 minutes. With a feed rate of .33lb/minute, that's 55lbs of garnet. A 55lb bag of garnet abrasive is $100. yikes.

[@120ohm]

In my opinion water jet is only practical when you need to cut very large or thick pieces of metal. That said a water jet of this footprint is nothing but a novelty. You could build a pretty sweet CNC mill for the same cost that would do everything this unit can do and much more! Still a cool project and these kids are clearly very smart I just wouldn't waste much more time and money on the project...

[@fryncyaryorvjink2140]

It must be harder to make this than I'm imagining, seems a desktop waterjet should be smaller. seems you just need a motor, compressor and nozzle. can't we make those smaller by now?

[@Imaboss8ball]

Nabre Labre it is simple. No reason to charge as much as he does.

[@edschultheis9537]

A commercial waterjet cutter operates in the pressure range of about 50,000-90,000 PSI (pounds per square inch), depending on the machine. To achieve these pressures, the pumps are quite/very expensive. So to scale this down to a small benchtop model is quite a challenge. They would need to design in the highest-pressure pump that they could manage without breaking the bank as far in terms of the retail price of the machine. So when the pressure is greatly reduced, the speed will also be reduced significantly, and the maximum thickness of material that can be cut will also be reduced very significantly. By comparison, a pressure washer that one might buy at Home Depot or Lowes would be a maximum of around 3600 PSI. Heavier-duty pressure washers may achieve water pressures of 5000-10,000 PSI. Just as a point of reference, there are large commercial waterjet machines that can cut 2" thick steel plate if necessary. These machines usually have table sizes that can accept plates of 5' x 10' (often the maximum).

[@Steelcrafted]

Oooohhhh so close....3/16 steel won't do it for me! Gotta have 1/4" :-(

[@Gravelleknives]

118 min for that little knife though, I'll keep paying for pro service till this is viable.

[@Skidtire]

3/16 isnt that thin

[@Gravelleknives]

I regularly make knives that are .5"

[@Steelcrafted]

+Skidtire you're right, it's actually impressive for that machine...but when you need to cut parts that have to be 1/4", then 3/16" is too thin...

[@Skidtire]

Nathan Hamler Ive made homemade knifes from a power hacksaw blade that is 3/16" thick and its a great very sharp knife

[@roidroid]

Abrasive is not reused? why not? And the question on everyone's lips: Is the abrasive a proprietary blend that you are locked into buying from the original company?

[@littlestworkshop]

It would need to be carefully dried to be reused but it may still have some life left in it, it will dull though and cutting speeds may need to be changed. I don't think it has any magical properties so could be replaced with other manufacturers abrasive, it is unlikely to be expensive in either case.

[@tinijet1828]

Actually, you can reuse around 60 % of the abrasive. it is just expensive to do

[@teamtradeology]

At $10,000 it isnt low cost. You can buy a larger Chinese 4x4 waterjet table deliverd to your doorstep for that kind of money. It is no longer for the average person but you can build your own. Its been done using 4000 psi pumps for around $1500 including a cheap chinese 3 axis cnc kit. For $10k youd think they could at least have a functional Z axis. Someone will replicate this overseas for $2500 sooner or later.

[@tasherratt]

So it maxes out at less than 5mm steel? Still it will cut an aluminium can, well woop!

[@Felisargyle]

Cut quad frames

[@StraitD2]

$9,000 ?!? WTF happened to the original $1,200 price! I helped fund this on kickstarter, now I have to pay nearly 10x the price all of a sudden. BAD MOVE. No longer worth it. It was marketed as an AFFORDABLE HOME DIY-ER PRODUCT. Now all of a sudden it's an over-priced commercial product. - - - - - - - - - EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTING - - - - - - - - - (I can DIY a pressure washer into a waterjet cutter that's faster for literally $1000 or less.)

[@coasterdynamix]

I want to see this thing cut with the lid closed and abrasive running. It's a dirty process!

[@EcoMouseChannel]

Come on... everybody has a 220v dryer outlet at the very least. Plus the rest of the world can use it, and you'll get greater cutting capacity. But aren't switching power supplies sooo very common now? I'm looking at the back of my TV and it says 110v/230v 50/60hz. If people had the option to run at 110v if they needed it, but understood that cutting capacity would be lower. That's a reasonable request. I can only be interested if it could cut 1/4" plate, otherwise, it's basically a toy. I can import a 320w Laser with 4x8 bed from China, right now... that can do 1/4" plate for that price. And that runs on 220v.

[@Pattiham512]

Got a link for the laser?

[@bootlip11]

yea for real, link please

[@EcoMouseChannel]

There are no direct links. You have to make a deal with a purchasing agent. Log on to Alibaba, search out what you are looking for then put in a bid. If you are looking for 150w laser, with water chiller, honeycomb base that raises and lowers, auto-focus, etc, etc... you get back dozens of companies all competing for your dollar. You'll quickly learn the lingo, the specs, what's crap, and what's good. You can pit companies against each other and get a really good deal. Making sure you can get 24/7 tech support, or seeing "your" machine make a test cut before it's loaded into a container, guarantees against machines arriving DOA are all good things to ask about. Also, you need to have "a guy" here that can fill out the paper work, and get your machine out of customs and on to a delivery truck. That usually runs no more than $300. If you want to avoid all that, and buy a machine that's already been vetted, and that's stateside already, expect to pay a hefty mark-up. As that is their business model to re-sale machines. There are literally hundreds of them. MournTech is going to be the cheapest, but they have a showroom in Stockton CA, that you can actually go and visit, and get local support. Anyway, companies that I've personally vetted are Omni CNC, HSG Laser and Elephant CNC are all top notch manufacturers that will literally make any machine configuration for you.

[@Keith_Ward]

Alibaba?!?!? Anything but that!

[@EcoMouseChannel]

I import stuff all the time, and sometimes just to re-sell. If you know what you are looking for you can get stuff well beyond the quality of Harbor Freight. And let's be honest, companies like Jet, Laguna and even your favorite power tool company are all made over there. It's in the specifications and details that makes the tool a high quality piece over import junk. I learn the ins and outs of everything I intend to purchase from overseas. I've stumbled across manufacturers that make for the big boys, but also private label at a fraction of the cost. It's really not that big of a deal to shop the world, in this global economy we live in. In fact, it's kind of fun!

[@seppa340]

Awesome!

[@mustafamahmood6380]

amazing

[@intjonmiller]

I guess I have a year to make room in my shop....

[@UKFbass]

only displayed letters "M," "A," and "E" lol

[@LogicBob]

So freakin cool!

[@evancashman7614]

I get it, water lazer haha wazer

[@intjonmiller]

All the good names were taken.

[@FredMcIntyre]

Cool!

[@DustanWebb]

wish I could get one of these

[@pyramonitor]

CNC $1.500 AND A PRESSURE WASHER $500 FOR AN EIGHT FOOT TABLE ! WHAT A LOAD OF #&$@

[@lucasalexisvillegassalazar8910]

hello

[@RetroAdventure]

Only $5999!!

[@7tqpbnvh7tqpbnvh77]

that would be my tuition fee for three years..

[@jmakes3745]

what country do you live in? its two thirds of one years tuition in the uk :/

[@LPTryG0N]

8 years for me, Germany is nice :)

[@LPTryG0N]

+Majin Snake public University xD

[@M3iscool]

Yeah for me, that is about 1/6 of the cost of the entire cost of my tuition, here in the States. 40Kish...for a public university.

[@bbuildingmarch7060]

desktop everything :)

[@dthompson1122]

As someone that owns a full scale waterjet machine, I believe there is no way to actually make any money on this thing. Like other comments, its a very expensive toy. If you believe you are going to be able to make money with it, I really feel for you. Unless you are cutting foam or rubber, forget it. Sorry, but its true. $6000 for this, ouch! I would rather spend 120K and make my money back over a year or two, vs wasting $6000 on this.

[@muskokamike127]

I said the same thing about a "cheap" cnc router I saw over on tested. But this is like 3d printers: you can buy big huge expensive machines, or you can buy cheap smaller units for 1/10th the cost. (or any other technology for that matter). Same as laser engravers/cutters....you can buy $60,000.00 machines that can "do all" or $400 machines and supply a niche market.

[@cutthroat198]

Here's the link for the lazy kck.st/2cGIHj3

[@NightmareQueenJune]

Thanks :D

[@BackToTheBus]

wish i had seen this before i spent that whole 30 seconds looking it up myself !

[@kevinyoungblut]

Much appreciated

[@lahlimimohamed5128]

Wazer decopager du pierre agate (agate stone)

[@lelandeggleston1041]

$5999.99 that is crazy cheap compared to $250k for a normal size one.

[@lelandeggleston1041]

Damn Kickstarter? I have backed 3 projects ranging from ? 3.94 to $2300 and not one has ever arrived at my door. Sorry I will wait for production.

[@chaotatca2003]

Very talent :)

[@masonschmidt8336]

amazing product just not really affordable for every household

[@muskokamike127]

I wouldn't be so quick....remember: not long ago 42" plasma flat panel tvs were starting at $40,000.00 for SD resolution and thousands of people had them.... I bet if they went into mass production they could get the cost down to $2000..... BTW: Many other items were the same way: 3d printers refridgerators tvs Radios computers Cars telephones Cellphones Cameras need I go on?

[@Screamingtut]

wow!

[@samdycate]

right guy voice's sounds like Elliott from mr. robot if he talk slower

[@voxellab4339]

great product lame name. Why is the footage all washed out?

[@SGTGhost]

$6000 damn hows that adorable?

[@StraitD2]

2019 update: it's now over $9,000. I helped fund this project originally on kickstarter and it sold for $1,200. Extremely disappointing. They're selling out to greed and commercial use.

[@butterflyj685]

​@@StraitD22024 it's $10,000. I guess inflation!

[@you-tubejunkie2926]

Sandblasting with water..........

[@gingerelvis]

Did they just forget to colour grade this video? Looks so flat and lifeless

[@JoshRobirds]

for when you just can;t afford to pay $5000 for a full size cnc table.

[@Slurm_Daddy92]

expensive...

[@letsgoBrandon204]

$6k - affordable? Sure it is.

[@Slurm_Daddy92]

Mae... .. .

[@Fredofast]

you can pay for cuts, why buy a machine?

[@nextstorming3908]

This is the first machine of its kind. Not really There are tonnes of water cutters so that means it's not really the first of its kind

[@horle]

3/16th inch. damn you Americans. It's 2016...

[@SOCOLVN]

There are 2.54 Cm's in an inch ... How is that simpler ? 😬

[@aymankidwany8119]

COOOL

[@bklynboy-bk6ir]

way over priced.

[@luislima1451]

first? w8 nobody cares... great vieo!

[@terenceb8053]

Seriously it was posted 3 minutes ago... And the video is 8 minutes long...

[@habibarsytrituraebsyar7095]

sixteen

[@iplet]

kid has terrible posture