WC3 REFORGED Invitational - WB Final: [NE] Foggy vs. ThorZaIN [HU]

[@stephanl5546]

Reforged is a step backwards. It's a pitty.

[@joeypilazzo7198]

This hate train of blizzard shows how clueless you all are how unable to be individuals you are you need do some research on why things are happening as they are before condemning the company for things out of their control your ignorance is so astounding.

[@greatbigeyeball]

@@joeypilazzo7198 Intelligent conversation is dead, man. I accepted the state of this game back in beta and just lowered my expectations for the launch, 30 hrs in now. Not angry - disappointed, yes, but not angry. I agree with everyone else refunding or being disappointed too or whatever but KZbin creators make their money off of exaggeration and outrage. Best to just ignore most of it. They're competing for the attention of teenagers.

[@tims7174]

The green of the grass is very very very bright, makes it very hard to connect units or budings with the environment. Contrast is so high. Also creeps got...tiny. is dh intended to be as big as an ogre?

[@EinKobar]

Normally you would say that the background is more desaturated and darker and the units should be more saturated and brighter. It seems they went the other route which isn't normal but as a design idea it works. I don't like it though. Just look at Gandalf the Dark...

[@true_glory]

Reforged looking as trash, m b u could share classic replays too?

[@karnazacss]

I would like to see this on Classic... and not the shitty classic version that Reforged has. Real Classic best RTS ever

[@g.c.s.3720]

40$ payed for a 30 GB bugged game... And we need to switch to old-graphics. What a joke!

[@NHGeneral]

is reforged version better than the old one? I'm still deciding which to play. Please tell me.

[@GamingMansion]

The models look alright but the environment is awful and the two blend horribly as if the buildings, heroes and units were glued onto the environment. It looked so much better in the blizzcon demo.

[@alexandervla]

naga model so bad lul :D

[@GamingMansion]

@@alexandervla yeah on second though the hero models look awful too and the animation is so clumsy xD

[@SmoothJK]

Holy cow, I remember seeing Reforged graphics months back and being excited. What happened??

[@BlackLethalDragon]

Activision Blizzard's money hungry appetite and urge to screw the long time fans happened

[@novat9731]

I hope this Reforged invitational is just a one off. Don't get me wrong, there is ALLOT of content on this channel, so there is certainly room for some Reforged content with the release. But... TFT is just better.

[@konstantinisaev2652]

Sorry, but i also cant watch this, eyes get hurt. Bring back classic to streams pls b2w

[@LesageSinging]

Wow, foggy in game three with the big brain plays. Fantastic use of the ankh to maximize the aoe damage. Great AP position and base layout, amazing position on the archers and dryads on the top left away from the rifles for a sick flank. That was a very hard push to stop and he played that perfectly. Lucky he got replenish before the attack came in.

[@ediii89]

Reforged is hard to watch 😒

[@jakubzera8152]

ediii89 I agree our brains still learning how to identify units and heros consciously ... gonna catch up soon lol

[@fidgettapir8260]

warcraft III: deformed

[@lexys1196]

It dosen't look coherent as a whole and the movements are pretty lifeless

[@joeypilazzo7198]

This hate train of blizzard shows how clueless you all are how unable to be individuals you are you need do some research on why things are happening as they are before condemning the company for things out of their control your ignorance is so astounding.

[@lexys1196]

@@joeypilazzo7198 I am sure everyone is well aware that there are reasons to why reforged is so bad, but unfortunately it dosen't make it any less bad, lifeless and uneven, both graphically and dynamically. This is not a hate train towards blizzard (who made this incredible game in the first place), it's just noticing how catastrophic reforged turned out. They really just should have made a warcraft HD imo

[@martintomson8322]

Why the wrong races in the top left corner?

[@batuhanispartal7365]

congratulations my friend

[@FabriceDURAND]

Well honestly, it's just a question of getting used to it. I find it beautiful and fluid

[@LesageSinging]

This. When I started playing csgo I could tell the difference between ts and cts super quickly and it lead to some mistakes. After a month of playing, I never made the mistake again.

[@mr_ekshun]

I absolutely agree. Not to say that there's no room for improvement, that'd be an ignorant claim to make about anything, but familiarity plays a huge role that I think a lot of people aren't considering. Classic has some off things about it, but they're all things we've probably gotten used to over the years. Not to go off-topic, but I say the same thing about Star Wars all the time these days.

[@geoffreybremner6372]

love the casting, reforged graphics look horrible. no, im not opposed to change, i was excited for new graphics but this is a step backwards.

[@joeypilazzo7198]

This guys a moron and blind as fuck

[@TheMuamen]

@@joeypilazzo7198 The new models are nice looking but the field and surroundings are terrible and the color of the units merged with the grass somehow it really is a step backwards like he said, I don't like bashing my favorite childhood game but I'm very disappointed with Reforged.

[@w3tomi]

What a disappointment, it looks really really horrible. The graphics and even the movement of units are so weird, DH makes too much distance with too little steps, I can't believe this is true? I still hope this is kind of intentional and final version will be completely different, just to impress everyone. Maybe I'm naive. Thanks for the great cast, cheers guys.

[@Omgtired]

It's an official release bro

[@w3tomi]

@@Omgtired thanks for letting me know. Sad

[@hanyelbadry2609]

الهم صلى اعظم و اكثر و ابها و اعطر و اكمل و انور صلاتك على خير و سيد مخلوقاتك سيدنا محمد وعلى اله واباءه واجداده وسلم تسليما كثيرا عدد خلقك و زنة عرشك ورضاء نفسك ومداد كلماتك وملئ السموات وملئ الارض وملئ ما بينهما وملئ ما شئت من شئ بعد و عدد معلوماتك و مداد كلماتك وكلما ذكرك الذاكرون وغفل عن ذكرك الغافلون و فى كل زمان وفى كل مكان وقبل الزمان وقبل المكان وبعد الزمان وبعد المكان وفى الا زمان و فى الا مكان من بدء البدء الى منتها المنتها بلا ابتداء ولا انتهاء دائمتا ابدا موصوله لا انقطاع فيها امين امين امين يا رب العالمين

[@ribrob2798]

Reforged looks so terrible compared to the original. What is this trash graphics? Btw great job guys, Remo and Neo!

[@Ridley1234]

Loving reforged

[@jakubzera8152]

Fuck I didn’t expect to be so focused just to be able to pay attention to new reforged units

[@АлександрВоробьёв-д6ф]

Где классика ? Оставьте это другим.

[@ОлегЗорюков]

Александр Воробьёв не могу смотреть в такой графике. Это просто какой то ужас 😑

[@selfady]

Why does the video lag?

[@bradleyzum]

Why is everyone eating on reforged. To me it looks good

[@drdoomyo]

Is this LoL?

[@marceljustice8410]

Oh boy, plz scrap the reforged graphics and go back to classic wc3...this is incredible unpleasant to the eye and shit is very hard to distinguish.

[@joeypilazzo7198]

another moron blind as fuck

[@aimless3827]

This remake they call "night elf" as "orc"??

[@PrimeBrawler]

Tree of life isn't cute anymore :(

[@mr_ekshun]

LOVE the new Avatar of Vengeance!!

[@stoyantodorov9186]

Hey chaps, where can we download the replays from? A rookie looking to learn. :)

[@Inmate005]

reforged looks awful

[@CharlesOffdensen]

Why would one choose warden over keeper?

[@LesageSinging]

Keeper Nerf was pretty intense. Warden does better on maps like ts where leveling is easy. You can wrack up so many kills. Also, avatar of vengeance is the best ult in the game.

[@marceloormenobv6431]

Se que a muchos no les agrada el reforged viendo los comentarios, pero no creo que estee tan mal el juego, a mi opinión no me gusta nada lo que hicieron en las campañas, el audio latino esta muy raro, no hay ni una escena reforjada, las cinemáticas son las mismas que las del clásico, pero el multijugador a mi gusto esta bien, no excelente eso si

[@nolanchristensen7214]

I’m not too experienced with wc3 but it looks like NE is pretty weak compared to the other three races. Bears and dryads die in seconds

[@78i78i]

NE was considered the strongest race a few patches ago. Then they nerfed bears and DH if I recall correctly. But they are still very strong nontheless.

[@thomaseisenberg]

Also classic sieht einfach 100 mal besser aus.

[@toshiromoto12]

ja mit ner ganz dicken nostalgiebrille...

[@Samuftie]

Seriously, 7:03 is wasted chance to block dh

[@zahirbakri7048]

*Painkiller* Demon Hunter

[@LemonadeYellow]

Good luck 👍

[@tudoraniculaesei8431]

I think the Graphics are fine. Would take some time to get used to readily identifying the units during a battle Disappointed with some HU hero Models though

[@SCDJMU]

Is this cool or not i can't tell

[@stefanspasojevic4120]

This is Finnal games? What a fuck? Normal game between Grubby and Tod is 2x stronger than this shit. JEEZ

[@chrisg8989]

I guess the cool thing to do is hate on this game now. 😎 The graphics look great. I think you people never wanted a remake to begin with. 🤷‍♂️ Too bad Classics dead now. 🤣

[@bradleyzum]

I know everyone is saying classic looks better. Are they just crusty or what? This game to me looks crisper than classic

[@snowy0110]

The company is a goner. Usually, in such big enterprises, the voice of the talents is muted under the pressure of money-sucking effective managers. All they want is to create cheap garbage in a short time. I bet a lot of people saw this shitstorm coming but the management didn't do anything to prevent it because the management level is distant from regular customers as my grandma is distant from her youth. Those fuckers understand their fuckups only when they lose money.

[@snowy0110]

P.S.: In contrast, Remo and Neo, you guys are always awesome. Sorry for the toxicity, that's hard to keep it to myself.

[@sandro5535]

Guess ToD is Europes best HU player? But I don't see him in competition. Guess he like Grubby doesn't compete anymore?

[@TheAnhphuong92]

Best hu currently in eu: hawk, blade then johny cage.

[@sandro5535]

@@TheAnhphuong92 Oh, yeah Hawk is good, can't believe that slipped my mind.

[@LemonGingerHoney]

Called it. Foggy won.

[@s.waltonvoiceoverproductio7300]

boycott blizzard

[@morningwood1787]

Nobody: Blizzard: Let's make an ugly reskin of WC3...

[@tims7174]

HYPEEE

[@sirpente6651]

Disappointed. Waiting for 3 years just to get such a crap. Blizzard is getting worse and worser. Years pass by and they make steps backwards, instead of forwards. Using funds to make this pityful work makes me exclaim: Blizzard's developers, go to get a real job!

[@alanze18]

OMG THE GAME LOOKS UGLY ASF

[@andreiasimov33]

It's disgusting to look at to the honest. Lifeless and joyless. If you guys don't switch to the old graphics I'm sorry but I won't watch it, I simply can't.

[@stoffes]

so annoying the little kids ceying in moms basement instead of the beautiofyl play on the players they cry on the damn looks of the game

[@viktoryakov6417]

I really don't get it?! In my honest opinion, the graphics are 10000% better than before. People are stuck in the mud with the old ones, which is typical human behavior for most of the people. They tend to stay in their comfort and are prone to dislike any changes. I don't get it how some people get 30fps e.t.c I am running at 80-90 fps sometimes it drops to 70 fps but that is it, looks nice and smooth for me. It's sad to see Blizzard undelivered releasing an unfinished product and I believe there should be consequences for them so eventually, they learn to not do the same mistake again but I really doubt they'll take the notes. I am also unhappy for the lack of ladder, profiles, stats and other features that were present in the old client, also I really don't like the fact that they forced people to update to the new client although they never wanted, asked for reforged and they were happy with the TFT as it was. I think that is not the way they should operate things, also the lack of clear communication and engagement with the fans is a really bad move and it'll backfire for sure. I still have some naive hopes that some lights will start beeping in the heads of the management and they'll realize, that if they want to be profitable they need to service their fans better than what they've done in past few years. But I am afraid that this is wishful thinking.

[@TheAnhphuong92]

Shut up u blizz bot. I cant even tell who wins last game b4 thorzain said gg cuz I CANT TELL WHO IS WHO IN THAT GAME. TERRIBLE MUDDY GRAPHIC

[@viktoryakov6417]

Dude have you even tried to read the whole comment? Are you that shallow ffs. I am customer like you some of the things I liked some I don't as I said earlier. I left my critique where I believe was needed what I like I already said. Wc3 community has some toxic folks.

[@TheAnhphuong92]

@@viktoryakov6417 "I really don't get it?! In my honest opinion, the graphics are 10000% better than before. People are stuck in the mud with the old ones, which is typical human behavior for most of the people. They tend to stay in their comfort and are prone to dislike any changes. " This part alone is all I need to read from your tldr comment. Ppl are struggling to see things with this new "graphic". That's the only problem. And if you're thinking we're saying that just bc our mind is stuck with the old version, then I'm sorry to tell you that WC3 IS NOT THE ONLY RTS GAME WE PLAY.

[@viktoryakov6417]

@NaughtyZeus finally someone with who hasn't lost his sanity. Cheer bud enjoy it because it is really good.

[@jackslater8317]

@@viktoryakov6417 Reforged is uncategorically a disaster and a huge let-down. They have an enormous amount of work to do to mitigate the issues on-going. Can't keep our hopes up though due to typical publishers like Blizz-Activision who do NOT care about their customers nor the products they put out :D

[@DieSmart]

This new grafic is a shit...