Panel Discussion: Serena Williams Vs. John McEnroe

The former tennis bad boy from the 70's and 80's sparked some controversy over the weekend with a comment about Serena Williams. The news team discusses. (3:49)
WCCO Mid-Morning - June 27, 2017

[@masnandansheensinghtoor6228]

The people demeaning McEnroe haven't touched a tennis racket in their life. The man is a legend.

[@qwerty11222]

Even if you haven’t it’s just common sense, even though I don’t follow boxing if someone say a female champion is the best boxer ever, it literally means she can beat mike Tyson, Ali etc, which is just bizarre.

[@marcuscarpenter7230]

Yes and people that think his statement was wrong know nothing about tennis. They said why put female in. Because if you don’t your saying she’s the best player ever which is so far from the truth

[@user-qd9fy8on4y]

These women are clueless about the reality. She is one of the greatest female tennis players of all-time.

[@msherwood69]

lmao she got shut up when he said "then why don't they all play together if there shouldn't be gender qualifiers"

[@melissamalcolm1399]

Yea. She didn't acknowledge his question and just talked over him. She's a bitch who needs to be btchslapped by a real woman who isn't a men-hating feminazi.

[@Harry-Storm]

which is the exact same argument to use against trans actvists who claim that biological men in women's sport is no big deal because women also vary in terms of talent, height, strength, etc. In that case, why is there a women's category at all? But nobody ever asks the activists that. Too scared, I think.

[@stopthehate1749]

It would have been nice if she would have atleast answered the question. All she did was ignore it and keep on talking like she didn't hear it.

[@JM-sj4wj]

Being the best female of all time is an amazing compliment coming from one of the greatest tennis players of all time

[@The420BrownKid]

Exactly! Guy was #1 for over 150 weeks in a row he knows his shit!

[@ceylonin7289]

Yes, but apparently, it´s demeaning because he used the "f" word

[@tonyp9313]

@@ceylonin7289 Yeah it is. I don't know if you watched all of this. In 2012 the same guy who used the term female didn't do that when he said she is the best athlete in the past 100 years. So that would compare her to men right? All of a sudden because he has to sell a book he has to say female & then give a guess number of 700? Come on man wake up. You think he's saying this because it's an honest opinion? No.

[@negadelph]

​@@tonyp9313But it is an honest opinion? Listen to what Serena says herself about competing with men.

[@WoodsyWoodson]

@@tonyp9313it is an honest opinion. Serena and Venus both lost handily to the 203rd best men’s player in the world. It’s not rocket science it’s common sense. Kudos to Johnny Mac for not sugar coating the truth to give insecure people the warm and fuzzies.

[@anthonypaule638]

those 3 women has a bright future in stand up comedy.

[@nolans11]

No, they don't.

[@rohananil1266]

They can stand up and be the comedy

[@AN6370]

Nope! You can’t pay me enough

[@puresreborn5529]

low iq isn't comedy

[@anthonypaule638]

Come on guys. Their jokes are solid, credit to the lone guy doing the entire bit without laughing 😅

[@OkabexKurisu]

'Sticks and stones may break my bones, but there will be always something to offend a feminist.'

[@hotrod3769]

These 3 are the Worst Women Commentators of all time.

[@ImKuru]

They wouldn’t even be close to top 700 us tv hosts of all time

[@therealronniej]

@Gazmeister Wongatron 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 damn straight!

[@adebolarotimi-silva2049]

Perfecto 👉🏼👌🏼

[@alx767]

The ones taking to Mcenroe arevthe worst, not these 3.

[@tommym321]

The stupidity of this discussion is giving me a headache.

[@Seanryan2001]

In the original interview, McEnroe said 'Serena was the best female tennis player of all time', then he was asked 'why did you say female' then he replied ' cause if your talking about the best tennis player of all time then she would be ranked about 700 !!! In other words, if your comparing men with women then he was just giving an honest answer. It was not being disrespectful to Serena.

[@infamouslyfamous2134]

serena even agreed at a later interview. and did those 3 dumb women put a retort.....NO

[@tonyp9313]

He also said she was the best athlete of all time without saying female. He just did that to sell his book. The guy is a dip shit.

[@teddyeastside8051]

The reason you don't say "greatest men's player of all time" is because that would be the greatest player of all time. Usain Bolt is the fastest man alive but also the fastest human alive?

[@CD-lw6fl]

He’s even faster than a Cheetah, you remember that Cheetah, Ben Johnson 😐

[@happyprince4261]

I hope they don't complain saying faster man .. U put man and john put women.

[@DANGJOS]

I'm not sure why there's a question mark there, but yeah.

[@tonyp9313]

They should say best male athlete. He's not competing against women. Women aren't competing against him. So yeah Women's sports, Men's sports.

[@ajoybarua124]

@@tonyp9313 who is best gymnast of all time?I believe answer would be a women!Why?Because Women's are the better in that game!

[@JoTokutora]

Why he responded that way? Erm...because he was answering why Serena is 'NOT' the best Tennis player, that would be Federer or Nadal or Novak

[@shamayitabhattacharya3392]

Exactly

[@tonyp9313]

Best for the men. Serena best for females. You shouldn't be comparing Men vs Women. Also in 2012 he said Serena was the best athlete in the past 100 years. So yeah he did it to sell his book. Only reason he mentioned female.

[@JoTokutora]

@@tonyp9313 well that was a very debatable statement

[@tonyp9313]

@@JoTokutora He just did it to sell his book. That's all. Why call her the best athlete he has seen back in 2012 then say female with Tennis?

[@JoTokutora]

@@tonyp9313 He was pandering most likely

[@mattmac1271]

McEnroe actually gave her way more credit than she deserves. I don't think Serena could win the NCAA Division 2 mens title

[@conradchandler508]

Most good amateurs would crush her

[@camrennik9512]

She couldn’t….not D3 either. Those guys are good

[@dockjm]

Serena could not even come close to D1 title.

[@TheSportsPROgram]

She would certainly loose to countless D1 men players

[@TheSportsPROgram]

@@camrennik9512 Now you are taking it a bit too far, Division 3 has some good players but not even close to D1. D1 men's tennis is like a triple A in baseball....D3, not so much.

[@aaronjacobs4900]

He wasn't qualifying his statement by bringing up her gender, he was framing the comment in reality vs feeling friendliness

[@Trex-zm9gh]

Serena herself said “I Would Lose 6-0, 6-0 in Five Minutes” - Serena Williams on Playing Against Andy Murray Published 04/09/2020, 11:49 AM CDT It's very simple combine men's and woman's tennis and see who is at 600 to 700

[@NooniRobertson]

I love how he opens by saying there's no way we could answer this question, when there's a clear and easy way to answer this question. You just have to have Serena play a male tennis player rank somewhere 600 to 700. I mean we already know she lost to a number 203 ranked man.

[@jamesgarfoyle3188]

when that man was drunk.

[@markbailey2975]

I don’t get how they are taking it as an insult, 700 is being nice

[@marlobauco8941]

McEnroe 1000% correct and should never apologize

[@jaimeduncan6167]

you can't be 1000% correct dude.

[@jimrylander9143]

Amen

[@rjlee818]

1998: Karsten Braasch vs. the Williams sisters Another event dubbed a "Battle of the Sexes" took place during the 1998 Australian Open[51] between Karsten Braasch and the Williams sisters. Venus and Serena Williams had claimed that they could beat any male player ranked outside the world's top 200, so Braasch, then ranked 203rd, challenged them both. Braasch was described by one journalist as "a man whose training regime centered around a pack of cigarettes and more than a couple bottles of ice cold lager".[52][51] The matches took place on court number 12 in Melbourne Park,[53] after Braasch had finished a round of golf and two beers. He first took on Serena and after leading 5-0, beat her 6-1. Venus then walked on court and again Braasch was victorious, this time winning 6-2.[54] Braasch said afterwards, "500 and above, no chance". He added that he had played like someone ranked 600th in order to keep the game "fun".[55] Braasch said the big difference was that men can chase down shots much easier, and that men put spin on the ball that the women can't handle. The Williams sisters adjusted their claim to beating men outside the top 350.[51] Wikepedia

[@eljay5009]

So by their own admission they are very far from being the best tennis players in the world. We can split hairs all day long about where they would rank 350th, 500th, 700th or whatever - but the fact is the same, they are not "the best" by any stretch of the imagination - which was the question the interviewer posed to McEnroe. Pick any sports and it's a similar story. The female world record holder for the 100m wouldn't even qualify for the men's olympic final race with her world record time, let alone have any prospect of winning it. Women's national football teams have been repeatedly trounced by male U15 teams.

[@qmulus1]

3:08 I like how no one even acknowledged his (very relevant) question.

[@ahakangard]

To say that Serena at that time would be ranked 700th on the tour is likely a generous estimation. It's an extremely competitive environment, and the men around 700 in ranking are going to be as physically tough as many of the top 50-100. To say that Serena could compete with them - possibly over 3-4 sets - is a big leap. In Serena's own words: "Men's tennis and women's tennis are two almost completely different sports" Even if Serena can be said to be the greatest female tennis-player ever, if we're going to erase 'female' from that sentence, it automatically calls for comparison between men and women. I say that comparison is just about non- sensical. Apples and oranges

[@mikerichardson60]

Someone explain to that ditzy blonde that the NPR interviewer baited him by referring to Serena as the best ever. McEnroe corrected her by explaining she’s the best female player.

[@adebolarotimi-silva2049]

Exactly...

[@user-fw3hp7bb6d]

It's incredible how blinded they are by their offence. It's very straight forward, is Serena Williams world class? Absolutely. Can she beat anyone to ever walk the face of the planet in a game of tennis? No. So she's not the greatest of all time.

[@jamesbell1613]

Even then I'd say her tennis career is not close to the best..and it's debatable how she would rank for women.

[@lukealbrecht6680]

Because if he said she’s the best player of all time , then he’d be wrong !!!!!

[@hyeboi]

She got mopped up by a drunken rank 200+ player lmao

[@chiaweinam]

McEnroe was just discussing how women's tennis compared to men. He could similarly have discussed men's tennis in 2010's versus men's tennis in 1960's. So should the 60's men players have felt offended had he commented that the current players were much better? I think his words were taken too personally and sensitively simply because it concerns men versus women..

[@TheSportsPROgram]

The players in the 60's and even the players in the McEnroe era are not at the level of players today. Not even close.

[@akshatabhishek3569]

Lol, it was the interviewer who asked "If she is the best Male or Female".

[@LostGeburah]

best female tennis player, in the male circuit she couldn't be even come close to the top, she'd need binoculars to see top 10s.

[@frankcastle3942]

top 1000 you mean, she would get absolutely demolished by top college males

[@jonathanayres6005]

add a zero to that number

[@musicloungepty507]

Imagine just adding one more zero to 700 hundred. He would be under arrest. Poor guy

[@linkuri]

For the girls in the video...Just a perspective in a different sport: The time of the fastest women in the planet in 100 Mts track (#1) is in mens ranking #6,404 So when you say a man is the best in a sport, he is, including women in the same sport, but the best woman won't be the best in the sport including the best man in the same sport, that's reality. And yes men and women are different and have different strengths in different areas.

[@Samuelx123x]

Am I the only one who this 700th is about right?? or maybe even a bit generous?

[@bandersnatch6546]

I know the solution. You shouldn't refer to a certain female player as the "best female player" but instead refer to her as the "best player in the women's circuit." That shouldn't trigger any feminists right?

[@kevdebable]

Why should he apologize? He was very complimentary towards Serena. And, she is not the best player ever, period!

[@nbidnm]

The reason you say, "The best women's tennis player" when speaking about a woman is because she can ONLY be the best among women. You don't have to say the best men's tennis player because it's a given that if he's the best in the men's division there is no woman that could be him.

[@pratikchiku9441]

These 3 women also won't come under 700 tv hosts of all time.

[@ddfgfddfgdfgdf440]

If you really insist that whoever dominates their own separate competition the most is the best player, fine. Then the best player in the world without qualifiers would be Esther Vergeer, the wheelchair player who had a winning streak of several hundred! She won every single tournament she entered during that period. Or are you going to call her "the best wheelchair player ever"?

[@AlMan42]

No, best female wheelchair player ever.

[@AtticussAtticuss]

"Men's Tennis and Women's Tennis are COMPLETELY different sports..." Spoiler alert: They're not. They are exactly the same except that the men play best of 5 in grand slams 4 times a year. Literally EVERYTHING else is the same. "Why did you find it necessary to qualify that Serena is the best FEMALE tennis player and not just BEST tennis player?" Wait... didn't you just make the same qualification by saying they are two COMPLETELY different sports and that it's unfair to compare the two? The crap?

[@hardnigga5109]

AtticussAtticuss they use different balls and different rules

[@jessebourbeau1616]

He puts in female because it's obvious... The woman said why do we never say "one of the best men's players ever?" That's because it's not necessary, we already know males have better physical traits then females, allowing their best athletes to be far better at their respective sports than the best female player.

[@eljay5009]

'Why did he have to say she's the best female tennis player' Because if he had said "she is the best tennis player", the statement would have been factually incorrect. You don't have to qualify it when it's a man, because invariably, the best male athlete in any given sport would also be the best overall. Leaving out the "male" qualifier doesn't invalidate the statement, whereas leaving out the "female" qualifier likely would.

[@OnFight1997]

I saw the video thumbnail and somehow knew the like to dislike ratio would be beyond negative. Never been wrong.

[@themarcbon]

This is the funniest. They need 3 women and one poor bastard.

[@pimpmybeezlewheele6746]

I thought that male newsman was gonna bite his tongue off for a second there by how hard he was holding it in :D

[@godusopp2752]

He was being nice when he said 700 I would say 1100

[@finnblower7075]

@iamkrazybonez not really ,If she had spent her career in the men's circuit I really dont think she would win even one grand slam tbh

[@Edbrad]

“It’s almost like he wants to compare her to her male peers” - ummm that wasn’t him, he was forced into correcting his cohost who DID compare her to her male peers by saying he was the greatest tennis player in the world even above all the men.

[@tomjscott]

The one lady said you would never say that a male tennis player is the best male tennis player with a gender qualifier. Yeah, because by saying they are the best it automatically means better than all female players also. So, likewise you would never say Serena is the best tennis player ever because that would mean better than all male players and that's obviously not true. Yet, she doesn't get that. Ridiculous.

[@johnnykeane9633]

Go to 3.10... asks her if men and women should play together, knows she it's check mate then waffles about something completely stupid unrelated to the question asked??

[@redwine65]

I was actually curious how good women tennis players are compared to men, mc'enroe seemed to put it in perspective. 700th in the world in tennis would kill me....so I don't see it as a slam

[@wildman4642]

Wow! They need to watch the interview again.

[@bojanzivanovic9036]

McEnroe 100% right. She hase no chanses against 1000 top ranking male players.

[@virgiltelesphorus840]

Who are these fools?!? He said “female” because Serena is “female”, playing in a “female” version of the sport. When did it become bad to call females “female”. And how can anyone argue that Serena would not be anywhere near the “greatest” male players of all time? Serena actually said in an interview that Andy Murray would beat her 6-0, 6-0 if they actually played competitively and Andy as good as he is is no where near the “greatest”. I guess you can no longer just say the “truth” anymore!

[@dabigguy7788]

Good god almighty. He had that answer dragged out him by clever, cunning interviewers. Serena is the greatest female player ever. Is that so bad to say??

[@DANGJOS]

This is ridiculous. In armwrestling, if you call someone the number one armwrestler in the world, even though they've only competed in North America, then people would understandably be bothered. They would have to armwrestle other continents as well in order to be considered the greatest in the world. If a kickboxer or something won in the lightweight division, would it be a problem to say they're the greatest lightweight player ever? Serena Williams has only (for the most part) competed against women, so the qualifier is necessary to state that she's the greatest female tennis player of all time. Why is that a problem?

[@vuyo1100]

Serena is NOT the best tennis player(male/female) ever. They never said that of Steffi Graff when she at the top of pile. They always included the "female" qualifier for her. Why muddle the water for Serena? Could it be someone wants to dilute the "best ever" accolade by bringing in all this unnecessary rancor. Serena is the greatest FEMALE player of all time and it ends there. Anyone who wants anything else is the one trying to diminish Serena's stature.

[@kienman79]

They say it's a different sport yet they don't want to make the distinction when it comes to accomplishments. Really confusing.

[@cihan.a]

@1:32 the interviewer actually asked john why he said ''woman''

[@artpenaflor7482]

John is telling you facts. They asked him a question he answered. I just watched men doing women’s gymnastics and the female Olympian was amazed at the things they were doing that she could never do. Facts over your feelings. Men rule!

[@willypete1897]

They were so pissed he wouldn’t apologize

[@Braselton21]

That Man Is A Legend :D

[@handavid8465]

Is messi better than the greatest female soccer player? Is there any female basketball player who can beat lebron, jordan, kobe? Lol why is this even a discussion

[@prelimsupsc4867]

Jhulan Goswami is the best fast bowler of all time .. But I can bowl faster and more accurately than her.

[@buffalomind6838]

Williams John McEnroe said Serena has a way with words, and truth in them wrapped in ambiguity is the style she's chosen to communicate with apparently. She's very likely winking in when she says that, or better be as it is embarrassing if she were serious. She knows better, and to deny it when it can so easily be disproven is silly. In fact we know it has been with her competing as well as her sister against a ranked player who chose to tone down his game in order to make it interesting, and he was above 200th as well as pre exhausted, and inebriated at the time. I kid you not.

[@ForeverPurpleNGold]

The two on the right are so so ready to attack at any angle, in my onion you need the distinction, otherwise you would not have any problem with what McEnroe responded with in the first place

[@TherealDustinBaldwin]

Facts dont care about feelings. Ask (good) doctors

[@MrSantanasWorld]

um both sisters played a man ranked out of the top 200 and he beat both of them after having beers with ease back in 1992.. serena Williams is definitely the best women's tennis player of all time and you definitely have to put the word woman in there because if she had to play men she would have never achieved anything in tennis... it's just that simple.

[@knudsandbknielsen1612]

Sport - any sport - is some kind of discrimination. No short people play basketball. No heavy built people high jump. Conmpetitive sport is always about comparing people on one of many parameters. People who are too poor to buy shoes have stronger feet and often win the marathon. We "qualify" gender and nothing else. But really, comparing two people is deeply absurd. We should grow out of that at age twelve.

[@jamason442]

God these women on the show. The reason for the qualification is simple. You don’t need to say the greatest male basketball player because it automatically put him at the top. You can’t say that about the greatest female basketball player. Same with tennis.

[@Tennisisreallyfun]

I don’t think I have ever seen someone’s statements taken more out of context than here with these people at this “panel”. Crazy…

[@stazorm1]

It's not Serena versus John. It's John versus dishonest media.

[@TheSportsPROgram]

This panel don't understand tennis. McEnroe said She was the best female player and that's right, But she would loose to countless D1 men's college players. This is just reality. Women are better at a lot of things than men, but in certain sports that require a certain strength and speed, men are going to play at a different level. It is simple common sense, facts, and reality.

[@Rocketman9mm]

1:35 so you're saying he should celebrate her success by lying and pretending there are no male players better than her?

[@Zanchcrow]

We don't have to try predicting her rank, can prime Serena beat prime Federer/Nadal? If no, then discussion over, she's not the best. These panelists are ridiculous, of course we can and should celebrate the achievements of athletes without qualifying gender, we do that for hundreds and thousands of athletes. Serena is one of many incredible, incredible athletes across all sports. However, discussing "the best" is an entirely different conversation, because now you are not merely celebrating an athlete, but actively trying to rank them, in which case, facts are facts. "Oh why can't he just celebrate her without bring up gender"... *The original interviewer didn't just celebrate Serena's achievements, but explicitly tried to rank her as the greatest, and therefore, John disagreed with an explanation.* I can celebrate Serena and Venus as amazing athletes, but if we were talking about ranking them, then its clearly Serena over Venus, 23 grand slams vs 7. John shot himself in the foot when he estimated Serena's rank in the male circuit, given the political sensitivity of the current era for such topics. The prediction wasn't necessary for answering the question, he could have gone "no, I think the best player is XXX" and the question would be answered, discussion would be over. Instead, his opinion on Serena's rank (albeit a measured opinion from a former No.1 pro) dominated despite the context of his words being entirely factual (that men's tennis is a different ballgame compared the women's tennis). That being said, John did nothing wrong.

[@CitizenoftheWorld1]

Saying Serena is the greatest female tennis player of all time is demeaning? 🤔 That's like calling a woman pretty and she gets offended cause you didn't call her drop dead gorgeous 😅😅😅

[@ph01978]

When you qualify it, it leaves the possibility that she is not the greatest player PERIOD. If you do not qualify it, you are saying she's the greatest PERIOD which would be a lie. With a male tennis player, that possibility does not exist. Or at least not at the time of the comment. The best male tennis player IS the greatest player PERIOD. Also, she completely ignored the guy when he said, why not let female and male play together one on one then? Also, at 1:08, John McEnroe did not have to backpedal. He did say that Serena is amazing and he did put context. "If she played with men, she would be ranked 700th". Where's the lack of context?

[@alstonli7585]

Lmao the REPORTER brought up gender, not john what

[@edwardnigma6963]

The ratio of likes to dislikes is what I predicted.

[@donall72]

If it were a woman saying the same thing about Nadal or whoever, would we be having this debate?

[@sfolife]

why are they saying he qualified her accomplishments with that comments. Tennis is already qualified lmao. If you want no qualifications just put the mens and women circuits together.

[@jaymzz66]

serena is the best female player, not the best player. she'd've never won any major if she ever played against the guys..

[@mcbailey9]

Chris Evert even said once she never beat her brother in a match.

[@jakehccc1]

The Reporter Asked the Question. He was Honest. You don't complain about the reporter only John!

[@ucbrowser2447]

He put a gender qualifier to address the moniker "best tennis player, period". Why is gender not sadi when talking about the best in men's sports? Because being the best in a men's sport would make them the best, period, assuming the women's variant isn't so different in structure. It's simple biology.

[@DinoAlberini]

It’s not a different sport. There are mixed events and different categories.

[@kod5660]

Yeah letter her play on the mens tour she wont be in the top 700 after a year but hey you can answer it you dont want to

[@wastingtime8160]

Venus and Serena Williams lost to 203rd-ranked German Karsten Braasch 6-2, 6-1 in '98. Nothing wrong with stating facts.

[@petermello55]

Didn’t she also say the Andy Murray would beat her easily? I don’t get this.

[@williamoleary9330]

John was being kind. Go look at matches on youtube that the 900th ranked man plays. He would absolutely whip Serena. Serena is the best women’s player is a more than enough statement to make.

[@jgr1313]

This fellow is trying to say what he really wants to say, but knows that he has to be very careful otherwise he will be cancelled. But what he is saying is correct, Serena is a great woman tennis player, but when playing against men she is middle of the road. But he can't dare say this.

[@kod5660]

Did they play the interview the interviewer asked why not say greatest player.. And he qaulified it

[@lvgio]

“why did he have to put that gender qualifier in there” he didn’t…

[@danielm2827]

NPR asked him. He answered a question in an honest way. If he hadn't mentioned the gender he would have simply said "no, Serena isn't the best". And probably the journalist would have asked him why, and then the gender distinction had been an issue again.

[@wwbuirkle]

MacEnroe was 100% correct no need to apologize

[@jimmiers8218]

Serena Williams couldn't buy a game from John McEnroe. McEnroe called it right......in ,men's tennis she would 700 to 1000.

[@viksinha5410]

I’m not even sure she’s the best female player of all time; she’s had no competition throughout her career

[@shamayitabhattacharya3392]

Kinda true, I really think the title goes to Steffi Graf and Martina Navratilova

[@martinwilliams4759]

​​@@shamayitabhattacharya3392 Margaret court is the goat in woman's tennis

[@kyoshokev]

Feminist 🙄 They say Usain Bolt is the "fastest man on Earth" ... Don't see Usain get butt hurt

[@stevespin2384]

Serena was literally on national TV saying she wouldn't score a point against Any Murray and would lose in 5 minutes. Again, Serena said this. Tf we talkin bout here? 🤦‍♂️

[@danfloros4267]

There are some things that men do that women cannot do..period and some things that women do that men will never do. Get over it.

[@bobbiedodds2289]

"Don't bring up her gender." Sound like y'all are ashamed to be women.

[@ieorlich]

3:00 The answer is simple: You need to clarify the female gender because otherwise it would be a wrong statement to just saying "She is the best player". Because the best tennis player is a man. Period. (And probably the best 1000 until reaching the level of a female player like Serena)

[@CribNotes]

He did not say Serena was the best tennis player in the world because she is not. Are these women losing their language comprehension skills? If it's a slap in the face to women to qualify Serena's greatness by specifying she's a female tennis player, then it is also a slap in the face to men to call her the greatest tennis player without specifying.

[@jacobhughes9010]

Also no he didn’t bring up her pregnancy, the interviewer did when they read her statement. Nothing like factually lying

[@BoneyardBrigade21]

He did lay it out that way…he said she is amazing and an icon…media really trying to make something out of nothing.

[@alberts2208]

Mac was generous to say Serena would be #700 in the men's game. #700 male player can push any top ATP player.