WCTH Review: Spiders, Rum Runners & Lies, Oh, My!

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[@monicalaclair788]

Roxanne, great podcast. Like I said last time Lillian is a kick. She nails her analysis and all her research is wonderful! If you should decide to watch season 12, it might be fun for Lillian to come on with you occasionally or even full time.

[@EverythingAboutHallmark]

@@monicalaclair788 yep!

[@cathy1883]

By the way I invite anyone to watch the silliest scene ever on WCTH. I don't remember the season but it's when Ned bumps his head in the Mercantile and gets a paper cut. RM sees the spot of blood and is immediately alarmed, Carson comes in to bandage the wound. 😀

[@EverythingAboutHallmark]

really?? I do not remember it.

[@cathy1883]

Roxanne, I rewatched Lillian's recap of episode 11 and I'm telling you that I was doubling over laughing. Just when I think my favourite show couldn't get any soapier. I absolutely love WCTH but the writer's deciding on another hostage scene in the saloon, really. I also think Jeanette dreamt up her alias name from her favourite cashmere shawl 😃

[@EverythingAboutHallmark]

Omg 😱

[@lillianhazaz1305]

So glad I was able to make you laugh. It is a bit ridiculous.

[@briannabaughman648]

I discovered your podcast through Facebook and I'm so happy I did! You guys knocked it out of the park with your discussions and everything you said was spot on! Lillian is the best! I thought Chris did an exceptional job this season despite the retconning and villainizing of his character. Lucas has become one of my favorite characters and I hope he gets to a place of happiness, whatever that looks like. I do find it funny, however, that despite Elizabeth being the main character, she's rather shallow this season and last. Whereas Lucas is a deep well of endless possibilities, much like Henry. The whole Jeanette storyline was great, if you ignore the history of the show, the ending with Lucas was *chef's kiss*. However, Elizabeth was so unnecessary in that hostage situation to the point it was almost comical. The only reason she was there was so she and Nathan could fall into the hay wagon, which was conveniently right below the balcony. Isn't it ironic that Lucas had a more gripping scene with Jeanette than the main couple rolling in the hay? For me, Elizabeth and Nathan, are wooden. Especially Elizabeth, who is supposed to be our main character. I expect a main character to have strengths and weaknesses, to have flaws and be imperfect, to be human. However, with Elizabeth, she's lost her humanity and turned into a robot who the writers are afraid to upset. The writers and Nathan put her on a pedestal and make her a prize to be won, a consolation prize if you will. Nathan can be a great character, but when tied down to the anchor that's Elizabeth, he suffers greatly. I hope the writers take into account everything we're saying and fix the writing for next season. I truly wish only the best to the actors and crew members!

[@EverythingAboutHallmark]

@@briannabaughman648 welcome to the podcast family!! Lillian has been a guest before as has Chris McNally and the other casts members, crew, and production. Enjoy.

[@christinepalermo4227]

I enjoyed your podcast and Lillian is so funny, she says it as she sees it, no fooling around! Since I didn't get to watch in real time I want to say something about what the two of you were talking about. When ya'll ( I am from the south) were talking about the time when Elizabeth was writing in her journal in season 8 and she was saying how Lucas has left town and Nathan was basically in and out of town, it was said why didn't he take advantage of Lucas being gone. My thought is since Lucas was out of town there was no competition. Remember Nathan told Elizabeth in the street that he doesn't shy away from competition, with there being no competition there was no sport in going after Elizabeth. Also, with Allie being at her grandparents, he didn't need help with Allie. Think about the fact that neither Elizabeth or Nathan had any guarantee that Lucas would be coming back to Hope Valley.

[@EverythingAboutHallmark]

Truth and more evidence! Different writers now who just overlooked all of the historic details.

[@JulieSmith39]

Always love Lillian, and the podcast! So very sorry to hear of your dad's passing. ♡

[@EverythingAboutHallmark]

@@JulieSmith39 ♥️

[@disneysr9004]

Thank you this recap Lillian is delightful

[@EverythingAboutHallmark]

She really is!! She has her own fan base.

[@ratanyiapage6610]

The writing was dumb is an understatement lol It was completely asinine! This whole ruse of Jeanette being engaged to Lucas was their sad attempt to try to validate Elizabeth and Nathan's relationship by trashing Lucas's character to make him shady and a bit dishonest with Elizabeth. Jack didn't tell Elizabeth about him being engaged to Rosemary, and they were legit really engaged but she broke it off. So, to try to drudge up this mess about Lucas not telling Elizabeth about him being engaged to Jeanette which we later find out he really wasn't It was just something that she mostly talked about, it's just sad and uncreative writing. It would be nice to have a new villain in the show just to spice things up, and if that's what they wanted to do with Jeanette then that's fine but they did not have to touch Lucas's character in order to do it. Because he could have very well left New Orleans when he found out that Jeanette was a con artist or whatever she was supposed to be. This is why the retcon is just not working for me because it was already established in S6-9 that Lucas operated on the straight and narrow. He even got upset with Henry when they first established Gowan petroleum because Henry undercut prices to make that other guy go out of business and Lucas told him that he understood that what he did was not illegal but it was borderline unethical and he doesn't operate that way. That was him establishing the type of honest businessman and individual that we've known him to be. When Elizabeth shared her first manuscript of short stories with him to proofread, Lucas told her he would never be anything but honest with her. Again establishing the type of man that he is. In that honesty is will led her to become a published author, btw. So now. He's been keeping secrets from Elizabeth Really?? All so that they can again validate Elizabeth's decision to break off her engagement with Lucas in order to jump into a lackluster romance with Nathan 🙄 me personally, I think they really wasted The character of Jeanette on this storyline although it did make an interesting plot for Lucas. I say that because in season 9 when Lucas brought up Jeanette working for the treasury department and she had gone missing when he was trying to work with her to bring down Walden, I thought it would have been interesting to have the reason of her disappearance be because Walden got wind of Jeanette's involvement with Lucas's grift on him and so he sent his men to get her. Lucas finds out and has to work with Nathan to rescue her. They then could have brought her in as a reoccurring character that decides to settle in Hope Valley and open a private detective agency much to the chagrin of Nathan since he's the law in Hope Valley. They could buttheads a bit but then have the team up to solve crimes together. That would have been really interesting to see Nathan have to work with Lucas's best friend.

[@EverythingAboutHallmark]

@@ratanyiapage6610 thanks for sharing

[@ratanyiapage6610]

​@@EverythingAboutHallmark Hey, Roxanne, have you already done a show about the ever changing personality of Elizabeth's character from the previous seasons to now- The Tale of Two Elizabeth's 🎭 ? If so, which podcast is it cause I would like to listen and hear your thoughts 😊

[@EverythingAboutHallmark]

@@ratanyiapage6610 Sorry, I have not

[@joanlacava6982]

It could be a video game the whole Elizabeth always getting in harm's way when something gangstah is going down in the saloon. Lol!

[@EverythingAboutHallmark]

@@joanlacava6982 😝

[@cathy1883]

yep so silly, I hope there is some originality next season.

[@ratanyiapage6610]

@@joanlacava6982 I agree 💯 how many times is Elizabeth going to be in harm's way because of her dumb decision to go into the saloon when it's clearly closed. And of course it's always someone else's fault that she's in danger. Remember, when it happened the first time, she was angry with Lucas 🤷🏾‍♀️ That last situation was so cringe, IMO 🙄 The most valuable person in the room was the Governor but you take Elizabeth as hostage instead??? They could have just done that scene with Rosemary and not even involve Elizabeth. Again,no originality

[@marthahermsen6309]

I agree with lillian. I do not think that Erin believe d what she was saying in a lot of the interviews that her and Kevin had

[@EverythingAboutHallmark]

@@marthahermsen6309 😀

[@marthahermsen6309]

You should keep lillian on when you do the wcth podcast❤

[@EverythingAboutHallmark]

@@marthahermsen6309 thanks

[@bonniefield4492]

Was there a disconnect between Erin and Chris or was this all writers change.

[@EverythingAboutHallmark]

@@bonniefield4492 production not the actors

[@ratanyiapage6610]

I wondered that myself because it seems that Chris and Erin nor Kevin do interviews together anymore. Chris seems to be by himself all the time but Erin and Kevin interview together. I get that E&N are the new couple but S6-8, the three of them were always interviewing together. They even did an interview together at the end of S8 to discuss each of their reactions to E choosing LB as her forever love. I haven't seen an interview with the three of them since the retcon. But I could be mistaken...

[@EverythingAboutHallmark]

@@ratanyiapage6610 of course they would’ve done the interviews together and 67 and even at the end of eight because of the storyline. It was a triangle. There’s no need for them to be together in an interview now because they’re promoting the love story of just N & E.

[@marthahermsen6309]

Sorry I missed this I was doing the tweetfest ❤

[@EverythingAboutHallmark]

@@marthahermsen6309 yay!!! for tweetfest. I stated early and wow! He was trending for days!!!!!