WD Black SN850X vs Samsung 980 Pro - Which SSD Should You Buy?

[@fuzzmo1974]

A great video again on this channel. Dropped on a fantastic deal on the 2TB 980 Pro until I saw the video on this channel about 980 Pro failures. Cancelled and shifted to the SN850x (just under £200 at Amazon). £20 more expensive but more piece of mind and better performance for my sons PS5..............................

[@mikecarden1043]

looking at most runs on userbench mark wd_BLACK WINS.. I GOT A 770 N THE LAPTOP AND 850X IN MY AMD DESKTOP, EVEN IN THE PCIe 3.0 HELP A sLOAD!

[@masonrawdon155]

I have a high end pc with 2 980 pros and never had an issue tbh 1tb os drive 2tb game drive and one was in my ps5 before getting a pc so it rlly just depends on how lucky u r

[@mainblue22]

@@masonrawdon155 There is a firmware version of the samsung 980 pro that will end up killing your ssd eventually if you dont update it which is where all the complaints originate from. If the firmware version starts with a 3 you need to update asap. Search for more info if youre not sure

[@TheStaniG]

Honestly, ever since searching up what to buy for a NAS and having an absolute TIDAL WAVE of reviews and multiple comparisons and multiple use cases to watch here, Im constantly reminded how amazing this channel is.

[@steliannikolov4163]

The thing that stoped me from purchase the 980 pro is the need to update the firmware. I took the sn850 2tb with Elecgear heatsink for the ps5 and so far zero issues!

[@adrianyeager6463]

Why do you need to update the firmware? It should already be updated if you’re buying it brand new late in 2022

[@steliannikolov4163]

@@adrianyeager6463 I took it a while ago and if it is not updated you don't get the speed ps5 requiers. In my country you don't know what you will get untill you plug it in the console. It is not a cheap investment so I prefered not to risk. And I did not wanted to rely to some back yard pc "experts" for update ...

[@batosai85]

​@@adrianyeager6463how would you be able to tell if the firmware is up to date? Would it not work once installed?

[@Myquest4techsolutions]

Good point

[@esclapter]

To anyone it may help, I had the Samsung 980 Pro for about 3 years (purchased it a short time after launch). A few days ago, the computer froze (crashed) and after I restarted, it did not boot and gave errors that said that no boot device was detected; strangely, the SSD was still being recognized normally in the BIOS. Did a few tests (switching NVMe seats, using other storage disks etc.) and came to the conclusion that it had died. I could still see and access most data stored on it if I used another disk as the boot device. Probably had to do with the infamous firmware problem, as I did not update it to a version that was said to fix it; Samsung could easily have issued big warnings that these disks should be updated otherwise they would be prone to total failure (firmware updates are risky by itself, and most people correctly do not update them unless something requires that), but they did not, as it would make them look bad. Just ordered the SN850X to replace it. I had Samsung in good standards, but after this problem, I no longer think they are that good; I hope I have a better experience with Western Digital NVMes (I have several other WD disks, all between 5 and 15 years old and still working fine, but none of them are NVMe).

[@Theking-vk9vj]

Same Problem. Samsung 9 series NVME should be avoided.

[@Ajax-zx9pz]

any update on the sn850x? how's been your experience with it being past a year now

[@esclapter]

@@Ajax-zx9pz Running fine. Had no problems with it at all. Hope it stays like that.

[@pupsaderpupin5627]

Best channel for storage reviews! I am really torn about waiting for a 4TB 990 Pro or pulling the trigger on a 4TB SN850X. I have a feeling the 4TB Samsung won't be out for at least 6 months.

[@turbo_bikini]

4TB?! Why, what, where, when, WHYY?

[@daviddegroot7631]

Why not im getting 2 4 tbs plus 1 tb for my boot drive

[@pupsaderpupin5627]

@@daviddegroot7631 go big or go home!

[@master_baiter1873]

@@pupsaderpupin5627 the 990 are out now.

[@TheBobist]

@@turbo_bikini I've already taken up 2 TB of mine. 4TB isn't hard to fill

[@mattm2507]

Thanks for the review, I was torn between the 2TB 850x Black or 990 Pro as a second drive for my M17 R5, they’re almost the same price with the 850x being about $30 cheaper. I picked the 850x

[@LambdaMiscellaneous]

That's weird, for me the 850x was $10 more. But I did get the 980 pro 1TB on prime day. It was only 50 bucks.

[@RealAnubhavSinha]

Reviewer says 850x runs hot on a laptop. Is it true? as I am planning to get one.

[@mattm2507]

@@RealAnubhavSinha Haven’t had any issues with it

[@ZLanes-h2l]

Thank you for the information I was looking for. Great Job on explaining the back story of both . I made my decision I'm going for the WD Black SN850X for my Msi Titan GT 77 . Keep up the good work bro!!

[@PackFan2323]

Great analysis! Going with the WD Black for use with my Mac Mini M2.

[@DigiDriftZone]

Right now on Amazon, 1TB Samsung 980 Pro Heatsync is £113, the 1TB WD 850X is £131.66

[@NikolaosMark]

I just got the 980PRO and as my second, I'm thinking to go SN850. The problem is, the 500GB SN850 doesn't include heatsink hence I'll probably get one more of the same, 980PPRO.

[@max10hoop]

You can always get an external heatsink for quite cheap!

[@LunarBulletDev]

heatsink doesnt really matter

HI 😊 I have had an external WD drive for 9 years, it is still very good, where other brands failed me.

[@nascompares]

Glad to hear it mate!

[@EcksTheGuide]

Good vid. Anyone else experience a sync issue with the video and audio? His mouth wasn't matching up with the audio for me. Kind of distracting

[@ignisGladius]

How TF you get on with just blabbering with no actual benchmarks is beyond me.

[@ilkkajarvilehto346]

A great video. though it would be a valuable to have a information about temperatures when tested under similar heavy load as you have mentioned in your videos that newer generation SSD are running hotter than older generation that is obvious. I think the many of people who are upgrading their high performing laptops have concern about how cool these are running in real life usage, where heat sink versions are not viable option to consider when upgrading. I've read WD SN850x is running hotter than Samsung 980 Pro, but missing real facts. I'd highly appreciate in case of you have done comparative testing between these two options and what might been operating temperatures during test.

[@WasuOficial]

Hi, first of all, good video. I would like you to answer the following: Which WD Black SN850X should I buy, with or without a heatsink?

[@Mrmeowgi123]

People seem to not know that performance scales with size in the comments section. A 4TB SN850X would SMOKE a 2tb 980 pro/990 pro

[@Stearry]

MEAN 4TB SN850X IS MUCH BETTER , RIGHT ?

[@Mrmeowgi123]

@@Stearry Yeah Currently, the fastest performing 4.0 NVMEs are SK Hynix P41 Platinum Kingston KC3000 WD SN850x Samsung did some changes to their 980 pro sometime last year that killed the performance. And the 990 pro is a scam as it runs really hot and is actually slower than the 980 pro. Always get larger sized (2tb, 4tb, etc) NVMEs for more performance.

[@jamesstewart2560]

I have the SN 850x in my PC. It’s crazy how noticeably faster it is than even my Kingston SSD For loading screens / starting up games.

[@matthiaslul]

Does it get hot though? Is is with Heat sink or not? Or motherboard heatsinks?

[@jamesstewart2560]

@@matthiaslul I’m using the heat sink that came with it. No overheating issues whatsoever. But I also have a mesh case so I have plenty of air flow. My GPU and CPU are over clocked with stock cooling. As long as you have a heat sink it’s fine. The one that comes with it is cool looking and it lights up. You can change the color of it too.

[@birdz9252]

I just got mine from Amazon does it have a built in heatsink. I will use it for my PS5. I keep hearing its optional and its confusing.

[@BR-ip5pz]

@@matthiaslul it's in your imagination

[@GamingShiiep]

Went to so many comments, but I can't figure out why there are so many dislikes

[@esw01407]

Very useful, thank you!

[@lesserlogic9977]

I'm back for your SSD reviews. I don't deal with all of the technology that you do reviews on. But I love when something I want to hear about is on your Channel.

[@zerocal76]

I'm lucky these 2 are about the same price rn. WD it is babyyy 😋 (thanks for the review!)

[@niixx324]

I'd like you to hire you for a small task, 3$ to post one or two comments on youtube.

[@niixx324]

More info on my about page

[@infantryblack]

Got my WD Black 850x 4TB for $219 Micro Center.

[@zinelabidineturki3670]

heard that they run quite hot when mounted in laptops. Is the heat a problem for these ssds?

[@pupsaderpupin5627]

2:08 Toshiba certainly since this is their Kioxia flash is used by WD

[@KiemPlant]

Right now you can get the WD Black SN850X 1TB for just over €100 (black friday week).

[@kevink9365]

Have you actually looked at game load times? They are exactly the same. Just get whatever drive is cheaper.

[@adrianyeager6463]

He mentions it at the end that the ps5 can’t take full advantage. I would probably choose between the SN850 (not the sn850x) and the 980 pro, both VERY similar in load times and I agree that I would just choose whichever currently has the better deal going on since the price fluctuates constantly on SSD’s

[@normanrobson9957]

I was thinking of buying the Samsung 980 Pro to install in a Thunderbolt enclosure, but I’ve heard rumours that the firmware needs updating occasionally, is this something I should be concerned about? I have no access to a windows computer. I’m also looking at the WD Black SN850X. Any thoughts welcome

[@NoVideoShorts]

Still need advice?

[@persomiumsegundo8595]

​​@@NoVideoShorts needed it, please tell me should i have to pick 980 pro or the black one?

[@NoVideoShorts]

@@persomiumsegundo8595 I'm using both, I think you'll be better on Samsungs.

[@liamcole9534]

so far? @@NoVideoShorts

[@xnonsz_4865]

Which would you recommend for a ps5 between these two? I don’t have a pc to update the Samsung’s firmware. That’s the only reason I’m tryna Avoid it. But i don’t need to update it then that would be great. Hope you could help!

the comparison would make more sense with the Samsung 990 Pro.

[@ohpeep3723]

the Price bro

[@HH-CA]

agreed

[@gabrielnilo6101]

Answer: 13:55 , You are welcome.

[@user-fl2ug7sr3t]

Had a 980 pro 1tb for 5,5 months. Unfortunately it failed today already. Ordered the WD Black SN850X 1TB M.2 SSD

[@Skydog-e2g]

Update?

[@user-fl2ug7sr3t]

@@Skydog-e2g the WD Black is still going strong today 💪.

[@ohsurepal]

I have the 980 pro and sn850x 1tb models. Can't tell the difference in boot or load times for games, but the 980 pro compresses files slightly better upon initial download. Gonna be scoring a 990 Pro 1tb monster soon.

[@delanescott7872]

i have both also, and what he saying is right you wont be able to see a difference in gaming, but if you put them both a pc and test them the sn850x beats out the samsung 980 pro in almost every other area. when your doing pc stuff with it.

[@LambdaMiscellaneous]

@@delanescott7872 Sorry, no.

[@jordanvanderwerfhiphop]

Gonna do a comparison of the 850x and the NEW 990PRO?

[@CamaroMan514]

M.2 win has to go to Western Digital for the SN850X, if we’re talking a 2.5” sdd the sun goes to Samsung 970 Evo

[@jGRite]

Video ended at 15:17.

[@vxrs5324]

SN850X needs a firmware update before installing it in the ps5?

[@lastsplash6]

The 980 Pro 1TB uses MLC while all the others use TLC so reliability is much better with a 1TB 980 Pro vs 2TB+ 980 Pro or WD SN850x

[@teemuvesala9575]

Nope. 980 Pro uses TLC. Last MLC (2-bit) consumer drive Samsung made was 970 Pro. 3-bit is always TLC. Samsung has been misleading with marketing, as they have called their TLC 3-bit MLC and their QLC 4-bit MLC. Its just misleading marketing.

[@lastsplash6]

@@teemuvesala9575 thanks for clarifying that for me, that's pretty shady from Samsung

[@teemuvesala9575]

@@lastsplash6 Well, Samsung is simply using different terminology than rest of the industry, which is indeed wrong cause it misleads consumers. At the end though I trust Samsung drives more than others hardware wise, due to them manufacturing everything themselves.

[@x1625]

Listening, not watching de-synchronized sound makes my queezy.

[@nascompares]

Apologies for the sound jumps in places of this video guys. Me and Eddie have noticed that a number of projects that were completed in August were subject to an odd sync issue that comes and go's in the editing process, but the processing technique of KZbin makes it rather more pronounced. Publishing a vid and article a day might be putting me and Ed to something of a breaking point! Will review this one and a few others and if it's compromising it beyond reproach, we will remove and replace it. Thanks for the comment and please rest assured that we are working on this.

[@BatteryAz1z]

Picked up a pair of 980 Pro 2TB's at $230 each. Performance difference be damned.

[@pacomassa1379]

I'd like to know what is the best ssd now, in terms of the overall features, between WD850X and SG Firecuda 530..what do you thing 'bout?

[@philodox7599]

I tumbs up and subscribe just for this review

[@carlosmolina5892]

I’m looking to purchase extra 1TB or 2TB for my PS5 and was originally going for the Samsung 980 pro but after this video I’m thinking WD SN 850x would be a better choice. But I’m a little confused did he say not to get the WD SN 850x for the ps5 instead get the WD SN 850. Wouldn’t the 850x be a better option as its newer and better performance. I am not a tech savvy so I want to make sure I’m doing the current buy. Thank you.

[@ZaykaEgi]

Which one did you got

[@andrewweller5119]

what is the difference, in real terms, between 7000 and 7300? i am running the 980pro and WD850 in my system and they are fast but hot.

[@Euphoric-tracks]

WD_BLACK 1TB SN850X NVMe Internal Gaming SSD Solid State Drive with Heatsink - Works with Playstation 5, Gen4 PCIe, M.2 2280, Up to 7,300 MB/s - WDS100T2XHE

[@ironlion5830]

The Gen 4 990 Pro has been announced.

[@ballamaniac6984]

yea and its gonna be way pricier than the wd the base 2tb 990 is gonna be 309 not including the heatsink version which will prolly be like 350

[@anmszm]

11:18 When I see 4TB SSD price, when you make this video it’s let me think of 8TB SSD price now it’s same,I know my luck if I buy 4TB or 8TB the price will get down after return policy finishes 💔

[@ThePsychoKillers]

How are the WD ssd? I have avoided WD for years now because I always had their drives fail only after a couple years, where I would have others like seagate last 2-3 times longer. Are their ssds better, or has the company standards improved?

[@russella7263]

Funny, I had the opposite experience with Seagate failing first and WD lasting longer (albeit typically only 25% longer). Mind you I always bought the server grade of both, perhaps at the budget end of the market, things are very different.

[@RJKhey]

No one's going to make you feel better about your experiences with WD drives.

[@matrixmodulator]

@@russella7263 same here

[@turbo_bikini]

WD is a great company for storage drives of all kinds. Their drives and customer service never failed me. I still have an external 1TB hard drive, just as a backup of redundant data, that's going well after 13 YEARS! WD is something else, Toshiba, Samsung and Seagate are in my arsenal as well, but the streak continues for WD!

[@tommydixon4793]

Just got the sn850x it made the loading screen on a spicific game i wanted improvements on go from 1min to about 3sec. Granted i went from 500mbps to this 850x that is multiple times faster

[@ZaykaEgi]

Going to buy for ps5 but can't decide. Any advice?

[@carlospinto4102]

Seems the WD SN850X is a gaming SSD. I'm not a gamer, does it perform jus as well on PC for video a photo editing?

[@heroicsquirrel3195]

I just got 980 pro 1tb for £93, seemed like a fair deal

[@j3ssylinda]

It s £68 now on amazon

[@heroicsquirrel3195]

@@j3ssylinda no it isn’t

[@dragonclubracing8669]

@@j3ssylinda he's probably talking about one with heatsink, without its obviously cheaper

[@LambdaMiscellaneous]

just got one for 50 on prime day

[@heroicsquirrel3195]

@@LambdaMiscellaneous nice

[@nukai1201]

Hi, 980 pro for 104 euros or SN850X for 99 euros?

[@marinejunkies9625]

Why didn't you use the 990 pro?

[@kartikay9276]

It is a 2 month old video

[@CapitanGreenhat]

Ive had a tod of wd failure and never a samsung or seagate. I'll never choose another wd

[@ohpeep3723]

Samsung has bad durability for me

[@automat3000]

Seagate is Samsung (right?), and Seagate drives have let me down twice in the past. WD on the other hand never have. These were on HDDs though. The importance of reliability can't be overstated.

[@BlackAdder1970]

Upon watching other videos on this subject, the Samsung 980 is rated much higher on durability and running cooler than the WD 🤔 So what the hell are we supposed to do? 10:15

[@maikkaune]

What about Heat generation!? Anyone knows a good resource or tests about actual heat generation? This is much more important to me than the last performance peak or 100/200 megabits speed differences. Most interested in usage without heat sink in 27" iMac and external thunderbolt/usb4 enclosure. Nobody seem to report and compare this important detail. Thanks in advance.

[@weltschmerz88]

I've been trying to find the same info on power draw and temperatures for laptop use with no cooling 🤔

[@maikkaune]

@@weltschmerz88 Hi, my personal experience with Gen4 cards: They get pretty hot easily, even without heavy use. Beyond the suggested 70C max. I tried a WD Black SN-770. No way to use it without any heat sink. It doesn’t have to be a super duper heatpipe with extra fan… it seem to be enough to have a good pad plus a thin copper plate or heat sink , if there is enough room. Laptops and iMacs have not much space. Eventually I decided to use an Acasis 401 enclosure. The NVMe controller is the crucial and hot part… make sure that this part gets a proper cooling pad which has good contact to the alu case. It works like a large heat sink. PS: I guess the Gen3 cards do not get that hot. I have heard about people using Crucial P3 plus Gen3 inside iMacs without any heatsink. Personally, if I would open my iMac, I would try to add a very thin heatsink solution. The newest Gen5 cards with even more transfer speeds are getting hot for sure. As a Mac user I don’t care about Gen5 atthe moment.

[@livinglegacy8429]

This or the 990 pro for PS5?

[@muscledigital]

Which one to buy XPG 1TB GAMMIX S70 Blade or WD SN850X or Samsung 980 Pro ?

[@brandonbee9]

XPG is one of the worst you can buy. The other two are solid. Samsung is more consistent WD is slightly faster.

[@ogscran2920]

@@brandonbee9 good bless you so the WD it's much faster when you start the PC + in game's how about for me let's just say playing a game and listening to some songs

[@evischlee5578]

What a Question ?, I buy only a Samsung. I don't need a Heating

[@Marcushin]

980 pro have AES hardware encription. Great value if need that

[@maddyrafi1987]

Does WD black SN850X it compatible to gigabyte z690 ud ax ddr5 desktop pc mother board? what is it speed?

[@philodox7599]

what is everyone's opinion? 2TB WD SN850x For $208 or 2TB Smasung 980 pro for $180?

[@FrankAtwoodSr]

those prices are lower than what i am seeing 11 days later sn850x $229.99 and 980 PRO $219.99. without heatsinks

[@JorgeAlarconL]

Now it's 173 for the 2tb 980 pro vs 229 for the 850x 2tb. Hard choice 🤔

[@adrianyeager6463]

@@JorgeAlarconLwhere are you seeing that price for the 980 pro?

[@Dan-gw3cu]

@@JorgeAlarconL now 850x is 179

[@adrianyeager6463]

@@FrankAtwoodSrcheck the 980 price WITH a heat sink.. Best Buy has it for $199 with a heat sink and $219 without one.. doesn’t make sense but 🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️

[@Donkim420]

In Denmark, the 850x 2tb was 340$ it is 240$ on black friday.. just got one

[@master_baiter1873]

Dam. It was 180 in the states.

[@Donkim420]

@@master_baiter1873 we have a lot of weird taxes on PC stuff, so it was a really good deal

[@jftvrwk]

okay so dumb question but will 2x WD Black SN850X 4TB work through a sabrent TB dual nvme enclosure?

[@Lucid_XP]

Yes

[@NotChillin]

So I can’t put the 850x in my ps5?

[@tompupino424]

You can easily...just installed a 2TB 850X in my PS5 2 hours ago...downloading games now...works great

[@robpiz1]

why not the 990 pro vs 850x

[@evischlee5578]

The 850 doesn't stand a chance against the 990pro

[@Zangetsu_X2]

why didn't you run any benchmarks?

[@nascompares]

As mentioned at the start, because I've run benchmarks on both drives on their respective review videos, that are linked below and recommended on the side panel of KZbin

[@letsavittvbirminghamuk9688]

I have put all my games on my ssd Samsung 980 pro i thought it would take the stress away from the ps5 like its running the games graffics on a almost full memory i think by useing the ssd to play the games from gives the ps5 less work to do am i wrong lol

[@napoficial7123]

Western is always right. So WD. Also the company doesn't pay trolls to insult others companies users .

[@evischlee5578]

Ich habe Bedenken wegen der Hitze Entwicklung bei der WD

[@BlackAdder1970]

TMI. Just tell us whats the best ssd. Stop all the blathering and get to the point

[@Topbuzzr]

Thanks

[@hashirama2759]

this guy speaks a lot saying nothing..go the point.. WHICH ONE? 🤬

[@pumacorp]

Anybody know how good the 850x works in an m1 mac mini with tb3 enclosure Fledging or ACASIS???

[@Jeep4LO]

Hi. I had the Samsung 970 evo and it failed after a few months, replaced it with a new 970 and it failed less than a year of owning it. Thinking about replacing it with the 850x or wait for the 990?

[@thepowerlies]

I haven't had any SSD failing on me and I had plenty. Is there perhaps anything you did or any condition with your setup to cause the fails?

[@no2thenwo737]

@@thepowerlies Maybe lack of cooling?

[@alvareo92]

@@thepowerlies a 2.5" PNY SSD died on me after a couple years of very moderate use back around 2016 or so. I replaced it with the latest Samsung EVO at the time

[@particles343]

Since the z790 asus prime has heatsinks, do I need the 850x with a heatsink?

[@keef78]

What an extremely stupid question.

[@dionr1168]

Has anyone tested the 4tb SN850X on the PS5?

[@ritzkola2302]

I have the 2tb 990 pro and it’s taking an hour to download Spider-Man 2 on ps5.

[@thepatriot6966]

😆

[@8butsideways295]

Here the prices are stupid 😂 i can get 850x cheaper then 850 thats without heat sink In the end i went with 1tb gammix blade s70 it with 8$ heat sink cost me 120$

[@SandwichMitGurke]

They cost the same for me so I'm getting the sn850x

[@birdz9252]

How do i know if it has a heatsink. I just got the 1TB for my PS5 and If it comes with one cool otherwise i keep hearing that its optional lol

[@wtfdamnshit]

It should say “with heatsink” when you bought it lol and with the PS5 I think it’s necessary

[@birdz9252]

@@wtfdamnshit I had to return the one i got on Amazon. The one with the heatsink is a ridged cover and not thin. It was literally 10 bucks more. I just didn't see it until later

[@manumonkey2712]

dude had 15 minutes to put 1 frame of any graphic and decided not to. Bye dislike

[@xxmagnumxxly7116]

Do you recommend sn850x with Thermal Grizzly?? For ps5

[@NapoleonDynamites]

So for the PS5 the Samsung wins!

[@_madpanda]

850x. Nuff said.

[@timmybear93]

Got the Samsung 980 pro 2 tb only had it for a month and it died fffff Samsung stay away from them

[@k4qdex]

wat happened to sound

[@HiltonT69]

Interesting 10 minutes of blank screen silence at the end. :)

[@turbo_bikini]

Your connection dropped packets and did not load the video for ya ;)

[@NoBodysGamer]

Bro, you have so much expensive hardware, cant you sell couple SSD's or a NAS and get yourself a 4K camera?!

[@keef78]

Why do you want to see him sit there and talk about Sid's 8n 4k? Weird.

[@NoBodysGamer]

@@keef78 All videos supposed to be in 4K, its 2023, 1080p is just meh and unattractive

[@shelthabarber4991]

Get to the point lost me

[@JasonSturgess]

WD utter Trash would not install in 2 x different pc ! would not show up in Disk management ! Samsung pro 980 installed right away with no issues ! MSI Motherboard From a gaming point of VIEW you are 100% never going to notice the difference with these m2 drives ! Both super fast in that department.

[@CM-ef8fu]

Man, audio and teeth ore off

[@mkgriff1492]

Would still take samsung because their nand is the highest quality. Always buy samsung ram I feel it has a solid reputation of just being higher quality.

[@Music-vr7sz]

What benefit does that give?

[@mkgriff1492]

​@@Music-vr7szSamsung nand is 100% more reliable over time and is considered higher quality in the industry.

[@Music-vr7sz]

@@mkgriff1492 thanks I'm currently deciding between them