We Actually Tested Our Bike From The Future | The Grim Donut: Part 2

The Grim Donut was intended to be stupid, but could it be the right amount of stupid?
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[@zelicanth1927]

we are operating on levels of sarcasm i no longer understand

[@protectme4278]

Yeah I'm not sure what's real anymore

[@arselihp]

and that sarcasm accidentally goes FAST!! Agreed, it's confusing and brilliant.

[@lucacycles8623]

I see more and more evidence that we are living in the age of post-irony

[@gregcavanaugh6259]

and self deprecation....

[@therealsteen]

Took the results from the race for me to finally understand. It really -was- sarcasm, until it wasn't!

[@tonykasunic1]

"Just the right amount of stupid" -Quote of the year for 2020

[@TinaTheBootyLover]

You're thankyou!

[@VonSC2]

Oh I am so stealing that 🤣🤣

[@shredditsbiking]

Pinkbike needs to start selling these frames

[@melwalshmtb9121]

Bike brands when they see 6 seconds knocked off the first timed lap: *WRITE THAT DOWN*

[@trauty666]

bikes are tools. and every trail requires specific tool to ride the trail quickest.

[@JordanBoostmaster]

I love it! Such an awesome video

[@ulyssesno490]

Sup Jordan

[@Supreme15]

love you Jordan

[@gundamnit3594]

Better take a grim donut to costa rica next time.

[@ryanmakarski8353]

I remember hearing Valentino Rossi's old Crew Chief, Jerry Burgess saying to find the optimum geometry setting on a MotoGP bike; 'you don't stop adjusting the geometry once it gets good, you keep adjusting past that point until it starts to get worse, then you'll know where the true sweet spot is'. MTB manufacturers seem to be taking a cautious approach, I don't understand why they don't make an adjustable prototype and keep pushing the geometry until it doesn't work then back it off to sweet spot. MTB head angles are nowhere near a motocross or enduro motorcycle.

[@remymetailler]

Such a contrast between Mike ´s car and Mike s bike....!

[@scodoublets]

Right?! lol!

[@GeoAnaGR]

I don't think so. They are both monstrous creations made of engineering with zip ties and duct tape mentality 😂

[@birdbro1990]

Which has a longer wheel base?

[@alexverstraete4551]

@@GeoAnaGR And they are both as low

[@stevennelson8131]

@@birdbro1990 asking the real questions here

[@ianw3811]

The quality of this video was totally worth the wait!! And so sick to have Yoann absolutely shredding the thing!

[@ChupacabraOffroad]

Killer content!

[@superymariowest2403]

Jason Lucas from IFHT/Mahalo My Dude was the producer, obviously it's a quality video... Combine that with Mike's... Charisma and BAM

[@ianw3811]

@@superymariowest2403 Wow, I didn't know that. No wonder the intro scenes really had IFHT/Mahalo vibes to it.

[@TheJofrica]

He kinda looks like the hippie dude from the 1st video :)

[@willcotter9465]

Yoann is such a boss. Looks at a really sketchy bike and goes, "yeah I'll go flat out on it for the laugh"

[@loadsled]

Your car handles great so it only makes sense that a bike with the same wheelbase and ground clearance will too. 😂

[@mikagami69]

Best comment in this thread so far

[@cameronjacobi9211]

Yup

[@travdad76]

Hahahahah! Yes

[@jpfidalgo7]

And the "Grim Mini" is born!

[@zmuzzy101]

@@cameronjacobi9211 E2a1aaa

[@PaulThePunter]

Did the Grim Donut somehow make Mike look less sketchy?? Goals achieved here.

[@Basement_CNC]

Might woul'd Help you as Well

[@rossbourdeau7097]

I think you need one then

[@igethanxcmtb9437]

Lol you’re right it did help!

[@mtbouke514]

Maybe you can use one

[@jusin5482]

The way forward

[@pavlokhryshcheniuk7765]

you forgot to increase hub spacing to 179mm super duper boost

[@ftrujillomunizaga]

And please use that term 🤣 "new tech the super duper boost"

[@dabigbadwolf5081]

0x33 is the future!

[@bk83082]

Don't forget 54mm fork stanchions.

[@pavlokhryshcheniuk7765]

@@bk83082 and negative fork offset

[@mtblunatic8829]

carbon flex shock too

[@stevencraig9492]

Ben Cathro (finally on a bike that fits him) for Chile 2021

[@rickbiessman6084]

YES! Let the man step from behind the camera on to the podium! :D

[@marcoepifani2475]

OH SHIT YES

[@stokedmtb333]

That would be so sick ay!? 🤙

[@RCKING1]

His bikes are 15mm longer hha. This bike isn’t that long just low and slack. Ben should be on a xxl geometron 555mm reach

[@chrisparti]

I remember hearing Valentino Rossi's old Crew Chief, Jerry Burgess saying to find the optimum geometry setting on a MotoGP bike; 'you don't stop adjusting the geometry once it gets good, you keep adjusting past that point until it starts to get worse, then you'll know where the true sweet spot is'. MTB manufacturers seem to be taking a cautious approach, I don't understand why they don't make an adjustable prototype and keep pushing the geometry until it doesn't work then back it off to sweet spot. MTB head angles are nowhere near a motocross or enduro motorcycle.

[@Bob_Shy_132]

I also seem to remember Rossi running his fork angle about .5 degree steeper than Edwards did. I also seem to remember Edwards always having to test new ideas during the weekend before settling on his race setup in the practice session before the race.

[@RacingRalphEVO]

What is not to understand? Improving mechanical parts in order to sell a new bike, is difficult and expensive. Changing the head tune angle of the frame by 0,5* and making the frame longer is cheap and easy, and it results in a bigger and more noticeable gain.

[@floimschnee4275]

While you are right indeed, I remember Chris Porter (Geometron) saying, that they went to all extremes too, i.e. 1000mm reach, 45 degrees HTA...

[@conanthanoz19]

100% this. Talking to these manufacturers is entertaining, but ultimately The Grim Donut asks a question that manufacturers haven't asked. Professional Snowboarders usually ride much shorter more nimble boards as well - but casual riders often will ride a VERY long board and it might not be good at doing tricks but the stability and carving is soooo much better at high speed. Long and slack definitely is the recipe for fast and steep...in multiple sports. Practically speaking - bike rentals at a mountain with a lift should be more like Grim Donut. This geometry would be far more stable at speed and keep new riders safer. Being nimble in slow technical things isn't a safety concern and it's barely a speed concern. Imagine how many riders would find themselves unable to do an endo crash over the bars due to the front wheel being so far out in front!

[@sambolo]

What are they going to sell in the future if the bike is allready perfect🤷🏼‍♂️ gotta go little by little to get people buy new bikes every year🤷🏼‍♂️

[@siglinde_raw199]

The moment you see Yoann on that bike and you know it’s getting weird beyond limits 😂

[@Nosloveingneko]

They really did get the perfect person to test this thing lol

[@mrvwbug4423]

As soon as Yoann got on the bike I knew it was going to be either, it works, or he's going to break it.

[@justsayin3600]

😂

[@nickcoulter973]

He fully committed... Yoann deserves some sort of bravery award.

[@TheRadChannel]

Yoann is my favorite hands down!

[@sholehan]

😂 Yoann just got a call from Max Commencal. He is now free to discuss future sponsorship options!

[@SeatTimeClips]

"It isn't pleasant". Who wants a donut that isn't pleasant?!?!?

[@kengregory1541]

As advertised, it is Grim

[@keegangooch9543]

To be fair it is called a “Grim donut”, so I wouldn’t expect it to be too pleasant. 😂

[@buffalotheory504]

they completely stuffed up the bike. it needed 31" wheels and then it'll fly like a rocket.

[@MonsieurArlequin]

I wonder if they shorten the wheelbase just slightly but add in the 31" wheels would it work better? Then the bottom bracket might be raised slightly more.

[@johnpray8334]

I think 31/29 mullet would be perfect

[@jaysoniorg2950]

@@johnpray8334 31/26*

[@dandesso8926]

@@jaysoniorg2950 what a casual, 31” front 20” rear

[@WilsonV4FCV]

further proof that we need a review of the geometron/nicolia g1 in one of field tests. Its the closet production bike to the grim donut geometry wise while remaining rideable in more situations.

[@br5380]

Also the Starling's and the Cotic's.

[@brianpark4]

We’ve been trying to get a G1 in for testing. Theoretically one is in the works.

[@nicko9579]

Pole has some geo that is pretty aggressive. Looong wheelbase

[@Jydmd]

Nicko I've seen a guy on Reddit or Instagram with a custom steel frame based on the Pole. That bike was looooong.

[@th_js]

Don't forget about Pole

[@danjdavison]

Sounds like a shopping cart full of pots and pans on the descents 😂

[@FormerlyOn2Wheels]

That bike is essentially a shopping cart with a chain.

[@joseecheverria4362]

Sounds like my cheap hard tail lmao

[@getonyourbike1]

Skeleton wanking in a biscuit tin

[@coneklr]

Please make stickers that say “The right amount of stupid”

[@seb370]

YES😳😯

[@christotm8985]

Anyone else wanting a “rig rundown” on Mikes car?? 😂🤙

[@dobrien8910]

Go to Steveston Motor Co's channel in that case. All the build details there.

[@montefurze3811]

Sam eyles ¿

[@rudySTi]

I was glued to the screen the entire video.

[@revmayhem8492]

I’d love to see a high pivot, 59 degree head angle, keep the stays the same length but make them adjustable by 10mm. And a fork with no offset.

[@adrianszabelski8105]

Would be sketchy on landings with no offset

[@steelwing7532]

@@adrianszabelski8105 Then make it a negative offset.

[@adrianszabelski8105]

@@steelwing7532 interesting idea

[@louismarieallyndree290]

Get this man a taiwanese factory

[@Mp57navy]

A linkage fork with that head angle would be absolutely amazing.

[@oliverslade9953]

This is the single greatest thing I have ever seen. Yoan MUST race it in Chile!!

[@TLDT]

Man, Yoann has the best laugh. He always sounds like he's having a blast. I can't help but laugh

[@NerfHerdsman]

Alright this was incredible and now I really need a 10 hour behind the scenes raw-cut & GoPro goodness. Also multiple podcasts with Yoann, Jason, Brian and everyone vaugely involved pretty please.

[@emilkrol4816]

The front end did actually not break off crazy!

[@FormerlyOn2Wheels]

One case away from the entire headtube assembly entering itself into the Apollo Program.

[@emilkrol4816]

@@FormerlyOn2Wheels haha yeah

[@IVGHOSTLY]

Did you watch the huck to flat video? It made me cringe.

[@johnnydoe66]

This time, but when?

[@downhilljedi]

Surprised the fork didn't snap

[@Hardcaslte]

Mike "Downcountry" Levy - Bike design genius and entrepreneur.

[@HerrSheeps]

Jesus, Yoann's hair is luxurious!

[@liamwadman2828]

Visible tim hortons cup often, still gunning for that sponsorship I see.

[@letsgo_inc]

I swear, if this bike shows up at EWS and takes podiums...

[@mrvwbug4423]

In b4 EVERY enduro bike and every DH bike gets re-designed in this off season to sub 60 degree HTAs

[@ryuunoeien987]

I feel like a linkage fork could make this even more future proof.

[@gergelystechnicmodels8565]

That might also mitigate some of the fork flex on such as slack head angle.

[@Gavztermeizter]

And probably a high pivot suspension as well.

[@nowheretocollapsethelung]

@@Gavztermeizter they originally designed it as a high pivot tho

[@travisramos5989]

... and a gearbox.

[@johnpray8334]

RIP trust😕

[@sammy13nation94]

Nevermind the bike I love that mini Cooper in the beginning! Awesome car!

[@andrewpavel4929]

love refreshing the page waiting for grim donut

[@ssjj9584]

The front wheel was 3 bumps ahead of the rear wheel ✊

[@rileygray195]

I feel like yoan's sponsors will be having some stern words after that time on the donut

[@dylan-5287]

Lmao and now yoan is no longer with commencal.

[@Catcrumbs]

@@dylan-5287 He said his contract was ending in the video. It was near the end of the year so there's a reasonable chance he had next year sorted out already.

[@jamisonr]

@@Catcrumbs I was wondering, because the timeline was pretty close to him going to GG. Glad the timing worked out because Yohann was perfect for this!

[@RickyDownhillRDH]

I had to come watch this again on a Friday for a good laugh. Love the energy and love of mountain biking that Yoann brings!!

[@LooseWheelFilms]

Dang those fender flares and bumper kit look sick for the mini

[@alexanderdimitriadis7762]

How smooth this test went scares me

[@Shift4g]

Kickstarter = Pink Bike Limited Edition - Series: Grim Model: Donut 1.0 Do it!

[@paullessard]

With sprinkles!

[@kaedeschulz5422]

Oh yes please! But not limited... I still have my trail Hardtail to build up.

[@toon_8552]

Worth the wait! Loved it. Intro with the mini cornering at a decent speed was superb.

[@IsfjordenBASE]

2021: the return of Yoann Barelli in the EWS on the Grimmer Donut

[@averymahon3774]

2024: Grim Donut Part 3

[@justincooper7015]

So good. The video we have all been waiting for!!

[@corollarijder]

That face on Mike when Yoann Said to take the bike to Chilly.🤣🤣🤣

[@ThermaltakeAustralia]

I'm connected to the work account but I ain't got time to log out! LET'S SEE THIS!

[@xx-----------xx873]

So you work at Thermaltake then, how is it?

[@joerousseau4815]

wassup im commenting from a pc with a thermaltake case

[@ThermaltakeAustralia]

@@xx-----------xx873 Just livin' the dream! But really, it's some serious fun!

[@ThermaltakeAustralia]

@@joerousseau4815 Yewww!! Thanks for the support!

[@true3211]

lmao this is so good!

[@Ghostflasher]

11:52 a priceless moment!

[@gavinkidd7477]

Was belly laughing

[@barathmuthusamy]

Yoann looks like a french tarzan.

[@seb370]

No offence🤣

[@tiaangobius]

One of the most entertaining videos I’ve ever watched! Thank you so much PB and let’s go part 3!

[@bonedale]

"feels like you're in the middle of a tandem" classic

[@AnalogFilmDiary]

Had to scrub through the video before I watched it just because I thought we were being punked.

[@amando96]

I watched the whole thing and I'm still not sure whether or not I've been punked

[@jdavis417]

We HAVE to be getting punked, right... right?!?! :0

[@gettin-sendy]

That was one of the best vids i've watched in a long time, had quite a laugh throughout, bring on the next build. 👌

[@floimschnee4275]

Yoann is simply the greatest guy, and just an amazing rider.

[@arthurturner3080]

no way its actually here

[@willigamin5278]

Yes. This is what i needed today

[@moparpunk44]

Awesome job guys. That video was seriously entertaining. Can’t wait to see what you guys do next with it.

[@ridesingletrack]

Literally the best. This is the content I'm in for. Good on you Levy.

[@sapinva]

Need to see a proper stoppie on that thing, would look like a swan dive.

[@iankeller2363]

Commencal is shaking watching this

[@mrvwbug4423]

or they're trying to figure out how to get a sub 60 degree HTA on the existing meta without having to re-design the frame too much.

[@maxgrass8134]

Great shit man! Love the video. Such a cool channel overall

[@beeftron7345]

I keep going back & re-watching these grim donut videos - MORE CONTENT like this please : )

[@illgazillion]

I think you have single handedly change the course of Mountain Biking.

[@scodoublets]

“I know this handling is going to be amazing” 😆😆 grim 🍩 !

[@nickdmackie]

Spectacular content, folks! Love all the stuff you guys put out, but this was the best yet!!! :)

[@hardtailparty]

This is the best series you've done yet. Its as good as Vernon's bit going to Asia to get a frame. Bravo.

[@TheRadChannel]

This is the best thing to happen in 2020. 5 whole seconds is pretty significant... 😳

[@ethanbenton6676]

Isn’t Kaz supposed to be the “longer, lower, and slacker” guy

[@TeamCykelhold]

Yes, but the donut was supposed to fail and disprove Kaz

[@mrvwbug4423]

Kaz is stuck in the US currently

[@drewgalbraith4499]

mrvwbug44 ... or Canada? I thought kaz was stuck in Canada

[@ethanbenton6676]

Drew Galbraith he’s stuck in Bellingham WA

[@dougsrosen]

Jonas, has such great mannerisms and is a pleasure to listen to when he is riding POV. Big cheers for him risking it! Great guy!

[@davidlogan310]

I loved this video! Pinkbike is now the TopGear of mountain bikes and i love it. Quality entertainment guys. Love the addition of Cathro who keeps the laughs coming too.

[@50yearoldmtber37]

The only comment is: MORE DONUTS... Throw a downhill fork on it and ride the North Shore!!

[@RacingRalphEVO]

Yoann is such a cool guy, I've already liked him after the privateer series. It's amazing that he just went shredding on the grim donut, smashed the time of the sponsor bike and said that it would be a minute faster in Chile! I hope this doesn't harm his contracts!

[@PerryHughes]

Mike Levy ripping in his mini through BC with the grim donut on the back is levels of cool I will never reach.

[@Cuzbanger]

This was awesome. Yoann's laugh at the bottom of the track had me cracking up too.

[@mountainlessbiking3268]

whEreS tHe gRiM doNu... wait

[@ROSE-by5su]

I tested the Grim Donut on Shred 2 and its so fast on a Worldcup course

[@haraldeberhardt4384]

loving the video. It brought a smile on my face and made my day!!!

[@titanninjawarrior]

Was not expecting an epic mini build. props. That thing looks like a blast! cool bike too.

[@brycebott6798]

That chain noise is like a Heckler with a rim following you down the track. 😂

[@triathlontrainingcentre]

Get Ben Cathro on a downhill specific Grim Donut! He will win!!!!!

[@HAMSTERKILLER666]

I'm always so happy to see Yoann show up in a video like that. Such a good rider and person.

[@shavellefletesgarcia]

best 20 minutes spent this year!!! ... great content Mike!!

[@benjaminrath353]

Imagine pulling up with this bike at your local park...😂🤘

[@vtecmossy]

The Ben cathro sized one is gonna be a big girl 😁

[@curtish76]

Grim Donut 2 (aka The Long John) has to have a high pivot

[@lgrankin]

Brilliant! This is why I love PinkBike.

[@j_a_k_o_b4861]

finally Edit: Canyon please watch THIS

[@joeblack4026]

hopefully they will learn something out f the new sender an put it to use in theirs am/trail bikes

[@j_a_k_o_b4861]

@@joeblack4026 yeah that would be awesome. Would Love to see a updatet strive

[@HelplmAlive]

Gave it a thumbs up before the intro even started. lol

[@l-pbedard568]

You guys did an amazing job on this one especially. You seriously rock 🤘

[@WelkySchullin]

Thanks! Great job guys love it!

[@trailsidesam3592]

The legend, the myth, iiiiitss......... THE GRIM DONUTTTTTT

[@NerfHerdsman]

Holy sh*t dude it's practically a mini-movie

[@racer89gt]

I feel like I’ve been waiting 8 months for this. So glad to see it shredding!

[@shanethecooldude8198]

the fact he is in a 65' mini cooper with a damn widebody makes this amazing

[@neysonza]

15:39 Mike really wanted to hug Yoann out of happiness?

[@johnbarron4843]

Bike name: *THE LONG JOHN*

[@cf6174]

GID7OB no it’s called the grim donut

[@bikepackers]

@@cf6174 you seem to be fun

[@jalapenohotcakes]

AMAZING! So cool. I hope you guys do more experiments like this 👍👍

[@trailnerror2887]

This was awesome Saturday morning YT vid and coffee. Thanks PB for the entertainment. I might get me a real donut today to fuel me up for my ride.

[@evantansimore7634]

just looking at the thumbnail i thought "oh is that next year's Pole model?"

[@seb370]

Haha same🤣

[@calebnaber8441]

On the grim do donut 2.0 you should put 31" tires on it

[@justmtbandgaming4518]

One of the most entertaining mtb videos i have seen!!!

[@Windband1]

That was a freakin' great video!! Well done Levy and Pinkbike!! Cheers!