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Bagels After Midnight

Bagels After Midnight

6 жыл бұрын

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In our final Bagels After Midnight, we ask, when Rebecca Bunch becomes more specific, does that contradict the mission of the show?
“Mental Illness and Sexism: What Calling Women ‘Crazy’ Actually Does”
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“The ‘Crazy Ex-Girlfriend’ and the Double Standard of Break-Ups”
www.theradicalnotion.com/crazy...
“Why We Need To Eliminate The "Crazy Ex-Girlfriend" Stereotype”
www.theodysseyonline.com/we-n...
“Is Gender Bias Causing a Disparity in Mental Health Diagnosis?”
everydayfeminism.com/2017/05/...
“Rachel Bloom Reveals Her Character Will Get a Diagnosis in Season 3 of 'Crazy Ex-Girlfriend'”
themighty.com/2017/08/crazy-e...
“The ‘Crazy Ex-Girlfriend’ Season 3 Art Is A Dark Nod To Iconic Pop Culture Images”
uproxx.com/tv/crazy-ex-girlfri...
“Women Who Feel Objectified May Face A Higher Risk Of Sexual Assault”
www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/w...
“Behind the Veil: Inside the Mind of Men That Abuse”
www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...

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@jaSama02
@jaSama02 6 жыл бұрын
the role of this show in my life is incredible. Being frustrated at Rebbecca avoiding getting professional help the moment she feels a little bit better, made me realise that I, despite thinking myself a rational person, follow the same pattern. It actually makes me more motivated to seek help.
@justthecoolestdudeyo9446
@justthecoolestdudeyo9446 6 жыл бұрын
I love the way you describe trying to "pass" with a mental illness. I myself am gay, and have some emotional troubles, and I never really connected the way that I panic and avoid answering questions like "so, you've been seeing any cute girls lately?" from conservative family members (usually with an attempt at comedy), to the way I panic and avoid answering questions like "so, wait, you said you were in the hospital for an overdose... How'd that happen?" and I try and avoid explaining that it was a suicide attempt (this was all several years ago, I'm not in the same emotional place thankfully). It feels like emotional issues- like sexuality- have this stigma (although the sexuality one is fading in many places), one that immediately marks you and strands you as "different". It's even worse with mental health problems, since a bad reaction from family members can so easily exacerbate it and bring you closer to the edge
@fatefulseven
@fatefulseven 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. I have developed many tools and ways over the years my mental illness was not yet diagnosed to pass as "normal" in many different scenarios.
@amanday3103
@amanday3103 6 жыл бұрын
Just the Coolest Dude Yo I can SO relate to the whole overdose thing. I try to talk about it as much as I can but it tends to freak people out. I try to downplay it and say that it happened at a darker time in my life. I hope I’m destigmatizing it, but I still get negative responses. My mother tried to make me feel ashamed of sharing that information with people when I don’t think it’s something to be ashamed of at all. While it’s certainly not something to aspire to, those things are sometimes a part of life for people with mental illness and should be talked about.
@marocat4749
@marocat4749 Жыл бұрын
Sigh, that stigma is so annoying when having to avoui to talk about stu no tnot make it worse oten enough :(
@zorro......
@zorro...... Жыл бұрын
5 years late to the party but you're not alone in this experience. To this day, I find it impossible to come out to my conservative religious Muslim family as being an atheist and how it is due to both the secrecy i needed to harbour as a result of my mental illness and as a result of my bisexuality. and so i keep having to hide everything from relationships to breakups to mood swings to my lack of desire to engage in the religion. a lot of passing needed, im constantly wondering if im normal enough :") hope that things have gotten better in the 5 years since you wrote this comment
@brimstoneclub
@brimstoneclub 4 жыл бұрын
One thing I noticed about Rebecca; her delusions are always in bright light whereas reality is always dull. It makes it easier to see where the breaks in Rebecca's psyche occur, even if only fleetingly. I'm rewatching the show to find these gems. Thanks for the analysis!
@gmkar7766
@gmkar7766 6 жыл бұрын
I cannot thank you enough for this channel. Like, there are no words. Your analysis is diligent, well-thought out and spot on. Also, I cannot tell you how much it means to me that you as a guy love a "girly" and deeply feminist show so much that you made a channel entirely dedicated to it, that you empathise with a female character (men not being able - or rather willing - to empathise with female characters is often cited as a reason against female-led media) and just I love all your videos! Thank you so much. You give me hope that people and the world can change for the better. Thank you.
@BagelsAfterMidnight
@BagelsAfterMidnight 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@samstarba4569
@samstarba4569 4 жыл бұрын
It's kinda sad that so many men refuse to consume "girly" stuff. IMO in order to become a rounded, secure person it's good to get in touch with all sides of your personality, a "feminine" side being one of them. I can personally say that it feels more natural for me to do the so called girly stuff but I feel a bit empty and helpless if I don't balance it out with smth more "masculine", like sports and heavy metal.
@beyondthebluu
@beyondthebluu 6 жыл бұрын
It's funny because I relate to Rebecca in a lot of ways (awkward jewish girl who loves musicals and sometimes tries a bit too hard to be liked? Well if that ain't me.) But I've also struggled with anxiety and depression ever since I was a teenager. I love this show but sometimes it's kind of eery because I honestly feel like I could have ended up like Rebecca (I even wanted to be a lawyer) if I hadn't got help, luckily I have a supportive family and access to good mental health professionals. Besides loving this show for how insanely funny it is and all of the awesome music (and the vanity of having a star who I relate so much to) I'm really thankful that the show is helping to bring attention to mental illness, feminism, and all of the many other societal issues it addresses. I'm also glad that you have been making videos to supplement and help analyze these points. So thanks for all of the awesome videos!
@louiseb5046
@louiseb5046 6 жыл бұрын
I love this series and I love how you analyse it. I remember how I reacted to Season 1 back when I was slightly younger and still new to my mental illness- I jumped from "I RELATE TO HER SO HARD" to "Oh god I hope this isn't the way people see me"... I think that's the point. It makes you question your place in your own world, own mind and how you relate to not only Rebecca but the universe she both lives in and creates for herself. It has helped me get through some major breakthroughs with my mental health and I'm so glad this show has received the recognition it deserves.
@AmethystMarie
@AmethystMarie 6 жыл бұрын
She has to appear spontaneous instead of *calculating* - the worst possible thing a woman can be.
@zyxwut321
@zyxwut321 6 жыл бұрын
That's probably because a "calculating" woman can't be controlled but instead is DOING the controlling. It strikes at the heart of fear of patriarchal figures, the undermining of their moral authority.
@oof-rr5nf
@oof-rr5nf 6 жыл бұрын
Wow. So true, you two.
@MsDonttrythisathome
@MsDonttrythisathome 4 жыл бұрын
@@zyxwut321 I disagree. Women can be calculating towards other women as well ,no?
@avnichaudhari4750
@avnichaudhari4750 Жыл бұрын
@@MsDonttrythisathome the statement they made never implies that women cannot be calculating toward one another
@The-bi5ry
@The-bi5ry 11 ай бұрын
She's spontaneous because she has BPD as shown in her diagnosis. Someone with BPD is supposed to be impulsive because their mood fluctuates a lot.
6 жыл бұрын
Where have you been???? I need you to talk about Nathaniel's development so far in the season. And the consequences of Rebecca telling Josh everything. Please, help your channel is the only place I can geek out. Also, awesome work analyzing the show really love your channel
@juviaseagray3223
@juviaseagray3223 6 жыл бұрын
Letícia Evelyn look at the description- this video was the final bagels after midnight
@nicolassanchez3047
@nicolassanchez3047 6 жыл бұрын
Your devotion for the show is absolutly amazing!👍👍👍 btw. I‘d love if you made a video about Rachel Bloom‘s CXG Theorie😇
@albertomatheusalcantarabel5728
@albertomatheusalcantarabel5728 6 жыл бұрын
One interesting thing about the process of identification versus empathy (if “versus” is an appropriate way to talk about them anyway, which it most likely isn’t) is that it occurs, both in-universe and out, with one other character in the show: Valencia. As Season One progresses and Rebecca becomes aware of the consequences of her own actions the show builds us up to identify with Valencia, particularly in regards to her crumbling relationship with Josh. Up to this point (“I’m The Villain In My Own Story”) we had essentially seen Valencia as a non-character, a sort of “narrative cardboard” that existed for a purpose and was mostly inconsequential outside of it. But the episode the song is in flips out perception by making us realize that Valencia’s life is affected by Rebecca’s presence and the other woman has defined herself by her relationship to Josh to the same extent that our protagonist has. If we’re Rebecca, in that moment, we’re also Valencia. And of course, if in a moment Rebecca sees herself as Kate Hudson, and in another, that role is Valencia’s, then this is Becks herself becoming fully aware that Valencia’s struggles are also hers. And the interesting thing is that there are two processes involved: the audience’s identification with Valencia, and Rebecca’s identification with her, and they’re separate because Rebecca’s instability as well as Valencia’s own nature prevents them from fully recognizing the other as more than the cardboard. But we know that they’re more than that. We’ve always seen Rebecca as more and now we can see Valencia as more as well. No, Rebecca’s identification with Valencia only comes in at Why Is Josh’s Ex-Girlfriend Eating Carbs?, wherein they can not only identify themselves with the other on the basis of being defined by their relationship to Josh Chan, but on the basis of being defined as Josh Chan’s “crazy exes”. In that moment, Rebecca is Valencia and Valencia is Rebecca, and everything that they’ve hated about each other suddenly becomes something they love because it’s something they have, since they’re one and the same as long as they’re both urinating on Josh’s stuff. Rebecca’s cosmopolitanism and learnedness and Valencia’s fit body shape and looks become shared by the label of “crazy ex”. And the empathy versus identification only happens in-universe (because this show is ultimately about Rebecca and only has reason to guide us into developing empathy for Rebecca), but it happens, in Nathaniel Gets The Message, when they’re forced to argue over their different perspectives (as well as Valencia’s material needs) on weddings. And from this point onwards, Valencia and Rebecca are two different people guided by mutual respect and care, not by mutual identification. But the audience is yet to lose its identification with Valencia, and probably never will as she’s a side character.
@DennisEirLim
@DennisEirLim 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! It's interesting that crazy implies 'not normal' when the concept of normal is a cultural ideology reinforced by media. Media reinforces this as a way of making behaviour an aspiration such as in marketing. This has deep ramifications when audiences are constantly being told that their identity is not enough and they believe it. Rebecca in New York is a personification of this effect-she did all the right things, just like she was told to do, yet is still unhappy. And then when she moved to West Covina, she wanted to get back together with Josh, and to do so she had to be concious of the social implications of what she had done, such as when Valencia called her out on her lie. Indeed, if she had just been honest to people in the beginning without caring about the social indignity of being seen as crazy she would have probably been rejected, but then would have been able to move on much faster. Rebecca and Josh are not a good match - she escaped New York to free herself of the oppressions of normalcy whereas for Josh he has returned to his hometown from trying to escape it. If she was able to be rejected, and move on it might have lead to meeting people such as Greg in a healthier context. I think people don't have an instinctual need to fit in, they do however have a need for acceptance and validation. The distinction between them being that for first one you must behave in a certain way and for the second your behaviours are not necessarily dictated by external forces. Rebecca Bunch is dealing with the former as she avoids behaviours she deems will hurt her such as being upfront with people about her motives in season 1 which causes her to spiral into harmful thoughts and behaviours throughout the rest of the show. I have always wanted Rebecca to realise she has always been enough and reach a sort of self-actualization and embrace therapy as a way of maybe "fixing" herself, but I wonder if in season 3 her "crazy" will be used as a point of pride much like the gay and black pride movements. Is there actually anything wrong with her behaviour that hasn't been caused by societal pressures? She has done some harmful events such as starting fires but in the first fire you could argue that she was in a state of arrested development and the second was accidental. It would be interesting to see how that would play out as though there was nothing wrong and nothing to fix with being "crazy". I think it would be slightly disappointing as it plays into the idea of a standard of "normal" but I guess if you can't shake people of the idea that being gay/black/female/"crazy" isn't normal then the next best thing is to approach it as a point of identity, solidarity and pride.
@Nothing_Israel
@Nothing_Israel 6 жыл бұрын
You’re back! I hope you have changed your mind about discontinuing these videos. You’re amazing at these think pieces .
@bettycharms
@bettycharms 6 жыл бұрын
James Johnson yeah please don't go , you're the only youtuber that analyses this show so deeply , literally all i have , your content is amazing
@AG-ny9lp
@AG-ny9lp 6 жыл бұрын
You are such a great communicator. 👍🏻🌟👏
@Sephern
@Sephern 6 жыл бұрын
I am so ready for your next video. You analyze things so much further, and with S03E05, I'm excited to see both the next episode and your next video!
@FrancescaRamone
@FrancescaRamone 6 жыл бұрын
dying to hear your commentary of season 3! excellent job, thanks for the video
@kayleekillingsworth
@kayleekillingsworth 6 жыл бұрын
Please keep making videos! These are great! I'd love to hear what you have to say about this season!
@qmechanic
@qmechanic 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for one more video! This is a superb way to kick off Season 3. As you predict, Season 3 will probably be examining a different side of "crazy". I imagine it will be an adjustment to see a more "specific" Rebecca, and your video gets us mentally ready for this change.
@qmechanic
@qmechanic 6 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to add that I, too, consume art in the hope of understanding other people's perspectives and cultures. Because one person cannot experience everything in the world. We need "shortcuts" like art to take us to new places. This is why I feel that one of the most important things for a person to have is imagination. Without imagination, we cannot begin to understand what's it's like to be in another person's shoes.
@sydandtaytum
@sydandtaytum 6 жыл бұрын
once again, amazing commentary and study of the subject. thank you for these vids
@NoneNone-oq9kv
@NoneNone-oq9kv 6 жыл бұрын
You're right but it's not that simple. Having a borderline parent and experiences with people with BPD, which is the most likely diagnosis to come, they lack boundaries. When we talk about compassion, although misguided or incorrect, everyone in Rebecca's life have actually done a great deal to try to help her. Even ignoring their own traumas, and Rebecca has indeed done some very traumatizing things to the people she cares about. The problem with BPD is that well compassion and support are desperately needed for mental illness, love of the community is not the sole answer. In fact they try to do everything they can to fill an emptiness that can't be filled and then take it out on those objects are people when they can't do an impossible task. Rebecca is the star of the show, but there are a lot of people who are her costars and their efforts apparently are never compassionate enough, and their pain is least acknowledged. When the person with BPD can't stop, people have to walk away to take care of themselves and they end up burdened with the guilt of an abuse survivor neglecting someone with a serious mental problem.
@NoneNone-oq9kv
@NoneNone-oq9kv 6 жыл бұрын
Even if Rebecca gets her happy ending. The people in her life need therapy from what happened to them.
@Unhappytimeaper
@Unhappytimeaper 2 жыл бұрын
I think that’s why frustrated me so much about the characters in season 3. Rebecca did really, really horrible things to people and I felt none of them got time away to cope or process it even if she was only acting because of own struggles. I would have loved to see episodes where characters said that while they don’t hate Rebecca they can’t be around her for even a short period of time to get over some of the ways her actions negatively effected them. More specifically Josh or Valencia. I understand Josh felt bad thinking Rebecca suicide attempt might have been caused by his outburst but he deserved to feel those emotions because Rebecca did some of the worst things to him to make him suffer the way she feels. While he had is own problems how on how he treated Rebecca, she was downright abusive to him so many time and I think having him rush right back ignores the level of things she did to him. Or with Valencia after Paula confesses she and Rebecca tried to actively make her break up with Josh by stalking and manipulating her life. She deserved to have a moment where she said “i care about you guys but I can’t be in your life right now until you start getting help.” Mental health in this show is talked about a lot but there still has to be a rose tinted lens to have a cast of characters. People leave, people deserve to leave those with mental health problems to take care of them selves. Regardless of having mental health struggles actions still need to be held accountable and it sucks to know that sometimes those actions means people leaving.
@zorro......
@zorro...... Жыл бұрын
​@Unhappy.timeleaper a year too late but i think that those who bore the brunt of Rebecca's actions (particularly greg and josh) did have periods where rebecca gave them space, particularly in season 3. the girls less so, and i can understand why valencia in particular would have deserved it. but going back to the point of the show, we cant ignore that this show is optimistic. even when the worst happens, things end up okay which isnt true to real life. (i cant imagine being forgiven for half the shit rebecca did to her friends and loved ones.) (i also can't imagine having 3 pretty incredible guys all pine over me in spite of my unspeakable actions and literal crimes against them) it is unrealistic to a degree, but this show is unrealistic about a lot of things. the lengths rebecca goes to are not typical, and while the sentiment is there, the exact actions are often over-the-top. and more importantly, in a show about mental health with one character whose mental health has a spotlight shined on it (we dont know much about the mental wellbeing of any other character besides greg's alcoholism), i feel like it is more important to provide that cathartic unconditional love and acceptance that most people with bpd probably didn't receive to begin with. that love is key to healing - relational wounds are healed by relationships. and i think most people with a mental illness like bpd know that people leave. people leaving is a HUGE trigger, there is a huge fear of abandonment that is integral to the diagnosis. they dont have to be shown that in a show - thats already a fear and paranoia. they need to see what healthy communication and relationships and love looks like, and to learn to seek help so that they can replicate it for themselves. of course, thats my 2 cents, no one has to agree with it 😂
@mwmheps
@mwmheps 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all your commentary and videos, I have so enjoyed watching them!
@mayorparsnip5571
@mayorparsnip5571 6 жыл бұрын
you've been really helping me get through these months between season 2 and 3. OCTOBER 13THHHHH
@chloecarter-daves1528
@chloecarter-daves1528 6 жыл бұрын
This is brilliant as always. I'm so grateful for this channel, and I'm deeply bummed that its future is uncertain.
@Hey_Bi_The_Way
@Hey_Bi_The_Way 6 жыл бұрын
I absolutely LOVE this show. And I would constantly look up the songs to show my friends, which is how I eventually found your channel. I'm so happy I did because I love the way you analyze the show and hearing your commentary. Thank you so much ❤
@salemkitschtrials791
@salemkitschtrials791 6 жыл бұрын
this is the best youtube channel i have ever seen oh my god
@ariellakahan-harth8831
@ariellakahan-harth8831 6 жыл бұрын
Awww, I'll miss your videos. Great analysis!
@Pizza653
@Pizza653 4 жыл бұрын
Crazy ex girlfriend was big brain time Your analysis videos of them are galaxy brain time Like, I haven't found content this good in youtube for a long time
@jingshi2246
@jingshi2246 4 жыл бұрын
although I don't understand every word you say, so much of this video kinda put my inner thoughts about crazy ex-girlfriend in words. While we identify rebecca's traits whether to ourselves or the ones we know, it teaches us that it is okay to feel that way. And as we give ourselves the strength to be comfortable and confident in our own flaws, hopefully, we all learn to understand that everyone is flawed. If we don't want to be labeled as the "crazy ex-girlfriend", nobody would want to be called "that nerd/jerk/weirdo"... ty so much for this, the world will indeed benefit from a little more care from all of us
@talytasbarcelos
@talytasbarcelos 6 жыл бұрын
this is so complex. i'm lost in all the layers. i'll try to do a mind map or something like that. i feel so stupid.
@qmechanic
@qmechanic 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, I find these analyses dense, too. It's not a race. Don't worry if you don't get everything on one pass. I usually read the text transcript first to get the ideas in my head, and then I watch the video. That helps me.
@talytasbarcelos
@talytasbarcelos 6 жыл бұрын
qmechanic you're totaly right. thank you, i always forget it. And i'll copy your method.
@lindsayainsworth4012
@lindsayainsworth4012 6 жыл бұрын
Great episode!
@rickloveman1135
@rickloveman1135 6 жыл бұрын
Outstanding! I love the triangle cycle of understanding diagram. So it seems you have powerful friends who can reverse CBS take down notices. Your view count is pretty good compared to other publicity view counts.
@berrakguven7719
@berrakguven7719 6 жыл бұрын
i know you said this would be your final video on crazy ex girlfriend but i would LOVE to see you talk about how the show foreshadows stuff
@debrachambers1304
@debrachambers1304 8 ай бұрын
In a stand up special he did, Donald Glover talks about crazy ex stories. And he says that you hear a lot of crazy (ex) girlfriend stories because they can be fun to hear, but when you hear crazy (ex) boyfriend stories they're something like "He shot my dog"
@PrincessSybilla77
@PrincessSybilla77 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this.
@GwackForever
@GwackForever 6 жыл бұрын
Oh my god man I'm gonna need you to do analysis videos for S3
@kaisinli7530
@kaisinli7530 6 жыл бұрын
Hey can you make your series into a podcast? I love your videos (even though the real substance is in your voice) and I would love to listen to your analysis on the show without having to open KZbin, since KZbin on my phone only opens when my screen is on.
@TheCaliforniaboy1
@TheCaliforniaboy1 6 жыл бұрын
I'm literally I T C H I N G fir your thoughts on season 3!!!! There's so much to analyse! !!
@keystolifemusicschool
@keystolifemusicschool 6 жыл бұрын
Well done!
@bk138gt6
@bk138gt6 6 жыл бұрын
I called Rebecca's diagnosis during season 2. Likely because it's also one of mine.
@MsSera21
@MsSera21 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@brimstoneclub
@brimstoneclub 4 жыл бұрын
Have you talked about Trent? He is often described as the foil to Rebecca.
@RENEEVEE133
@RENEEVEE133 6 жыл бұрын
this is so good!
@daynaremus4055
@daynaremus4055 6 жыл бұрын
Really great analysis
@yoenvidioelviento
@yoenvidioelviento 4 жыл бұрын
Dont underestimate the joy of a midnight bagel!
@ms.rstake_1211
@ms.rstake_1211 5 жыл бұрын
I love this channel.
@caitlinlim3101
@caitlinlim3101 6 жыл бұрын
I really hope that as you put down this KZbin show you pick up podcasting
@Felis_Catus_Nigrum
@Felis_Catus_Nigrum 6 жыл бұрын
Now that I finished watching the second season I'm going to rewatch your videos, XD now that I have some context. I'm glad the depth of your analysis about this series. Awesome work!
@annabarry6913
@annabarry6913 6 жыл бұрын
please keep making more videos
@angkeumarchivist
@angkeumarchivist 6 жыл бұрын
New video!! ❤
@11cakie
@11cakie 6 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait til you come back with the newest season.....waiting with bated breath.
@juviaseagray3223
@juviaseagray3223 6 жыл бұрын
11cakie this was listed in the description as the FINAL bagels after midnight
@shoujokadyan5502
@shoujokadyan5502 6 жыл бұрын
YAY
@ShowMeUnicorns
@ShowMeUnicorns 6 жыл бұрын
PLEASE SIR I NEED UR ANALYSIS ON THIS SEASONS EPISODES ESPECIALLY LAST NIGHT PLEASE PLEASE
@tylerchannell6868
@tylerchannell6868 6 жыл бұрын
So, can we please talk about how Season 3 is going? I needs dialouge with someone who watches this show!
@annkathr
@annkathr 6 жыл бұрын
Have you made a video on all the dads of the series and if there's a deeper meaning there? Or is that topic in a tangent somewhere? I'd love to hear your take :)
@runefaustblack
@runefaustblack 2 жыл бұрын
He touched on it in the Heather video.
@mlv1570
@mlv1570 6 жыл бұрын
Any new vids about season 3 coming up?
@thoraortegren
@thoraortegren Жыл бұрын
bye i literally just realized i picked up “this just popped into my nogz” from ceg… hahaha im such a textbook bpd. hence why i love the show!
@ashleighcalvert8937
@ashleighcalvert8937 6 жыл бұрын
This was such a fantastic video!! I hope you reconsider ending the channel, but I understand why. Thanks for all of the amazing analysis
@cyanjackson7689
@cyanjackson7689 6 жыл бұрын
Wait what? when did he say that and why is he? :( i need to have a season 3 analysis first!
@RoseThePhoenix
@RoseThePhoenix 6 жыл бұрын
I just found this channel, and it's already over? 😭
@mikeduplessis8069
@mikeduplessis8069 6 жыл бұрын
In the review podcast 'Crazy-Ex-Girfans' one of the cohosts admitted to a humiliating episode where she set fire to an ex's belongings in the basement (using an 'accelerant') with embarrassing consequences. I doubt, though, that this can be considered the work of the evil patriarchy. Self esteem problems, early adult mating dance drama and impulse control issues are generally gender neutral and evenly distributed through the population.
@samstarba4569
@samstarba4569 4 жыл бұрын
"early adult mating dance drama" What a great way to put it, never heard of that before! Also, agreeing with this comment quite a lot. I feel that lot of the conflicts in the relationships stem from the fact that people are often lost with themselves, and don't often know what they want and need in the intimate relationships - or in life in general.
@queenanacaona8531
@queenanacaona8531 6 жыл бұрын
No but I am actually her like the plot to my life has unfolded step by step pretty much exactly like her's this show freaks me the fuck out
@queenanacaona8531
@queenanacaona8531 6 жыл бұрын
Like the more specific she gets the more scared I become
@Zara-kl2ee
@Zara-kl2ee 6 жыл бұрын
WHY IS THIS THE LAST ONE
@MrJasePark
@MrJasePark 6 жыл бұрын
Never anything less than revelatory. Thanks for this latest video.
@ozlekosusturu
@ozlekosusturu 6 жыл бұрын
Hey hi have you watched community yet
@Iluminatili
@Iluminatili 2 жыл бұрын
Incredibly threatening title
@morrisonogallagher7148
@morrisonogallagher7148 5 жыл бұрын
This video made me feel warm inside lie glitter was exploded inside of me
@zyxwut321
@zyxwut321 6 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I think about the social advances discussed through smaller channels, blogs, feeds and boards and how that contrasts with the ever spiraling open and spreading misogyny, racism, Islamophobia, homophobia/transphobia, nationalism and all other forms of hatefulness, intolerance and bigotry throughout so much of the rest of social media and the internet at large. It almost seems to be as the quality of thoughtful engagement rises in some quarters like here, so too does the quantity of destructive filth. We basically elected an American president because of effective and targeted trolling and right-wing nationalist movements have been gaining steam throughout the developed world. I just fear that we sometimes silo ourselves in self-satisfaction while not engaging enough people politically and socially to our causes. It's so easy for us liberals to be dismissed as precious SJWs, snowflakes, libtards and every other demeaning and dismissive label. This is all to say I hope we can find ways to reach MORE people through dialog and self-interest, not just reinforcing the messaging of predominately young, liberal, educated "elite" people who are already sympathetic to social justice and watch shows like "Crazy Ex-Girlfriend".
@EskoBomb
@EskoBomb 6 жыл бұрын
With all due respect, some of my irrational behavior put her stuff to shame during my breakup. I'm quite sure I've been called a crazy ex boyfriend and you know what? whatever... i think all the more we talk about this garbage like it's helpful or self empowering, the more it sounds like whining and expecting others to change for us and honestly the more weight we give people who abuse terms like crazy ex girl or crazy ex boy. just be as kind and thoughtful a person as you can regardless of what sex, or what choices they like, the color of their skin. be thoughtful and patient. walking on eggshells is just as insincere whether it's pretending to care about living in your shoes, or coddling a physically abusive barbarian until you can get into a safe place to change your life. be as kind as you can and try to remember that your thoughts and insecurities come from you and no one else. context: A recent breakup of ten year relationship, and a survivor of physically abusive father. see, even with context... who cares... you shouldn't... just behave and be kind
@medschoolgirl3198
@medschoolgirl3198 6 жыл бұрын
Hey just wanted to say, if you made one of these for big bang theory, it would blow up. One that dislikes bbt, like they are actually really mean/misogynistic. U would get A LOT of views, and then they would see these videos and really appreciate them! And that will mean more ppl will watch the show which is great for us. I know I'm getting a little ahead of myself, but a dissing essay bbt episode would be amazing for the channel :)
@joannap5326
@joannap5326 6 жыл бұрын
Hey! You might have already seen them but Pop Culture Detective does a few videos on BBT which are really thought-prevoking. It would be interesting to hear Bagels After Midnights take on it though!
@medschoolgirl3198
@medschoolgirl3198 6 жыл бұрын
J P haha yea I have, thanks for the Info regardless tho :). I also saw the 1.9 million views, and with bagels after midnights thoughts I'm sure at least 50k will tune In, that's why I said it :)
@joannap5326
@joannap5326 6 жыл бұрын
Hermoine Granger :) Haha I thought you would have. Geeking out on all these great video essays - I agree it would be great if viewpoints like this could grab hold of a wider audience!
@83croissant
@83croissant 6 жыл бұрын
I would not subject him to Big Bang Theory
@966aAad
@966aAad Жыл бұрын
Generally a great video. My one note is you using "mental illness" instead of "personality disorder" Mental illnesses are curable, personality disorders are not. Using those interchangeably makes people think otherwise. Most people with personality disorders and neurodivergent people such as myself are sick of being told we will grow out of it.
@gia6014
@gia6014 Жыл бұрын
instead of "female person," it is much easier for you and much more politically correct to just say "woman" :)
@kgrrl1
@kgrrl1 6 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the irony of a man explaining a feminist show to me. But, dang, they're really good analyses. Do this is one mansplaining that I'll allow.
@samstarba4569
@samstarba4569 4 жыл бұрын
I don't see a contradiction here. If men can be a feminists, why couldn't they make feminist analysis?
@marocat4749
@marocat4749 Жыл бұрын
And the show isnt only feminist, the crazy part, well applies to any gender. Also hr being a woman dosnt make he less relatable. And i argue its doing what feminism should do, help all genders, which the show indeed doe cover.
@michaelrauch8629
@michaelrauch8629 4 жыл бұрын
I think the big issue with the series is that she really is a crazy exgirlfriend. She stalked a man who dumped her a decade ago and dropped everything to break up his relationships to reobsess over him. Flat out she is a problem in her life and the lives of others. The issue with this video is that a lot of people are crazy ex’s and people. In this series Rebecca is abusive and possessive. As some one with mental illness like her I can say that it doesn’t excuse horrific behavior. Also casting the patriarchy label is the same as throwing the crazy label, it dissociates us from the actual problem which is that everyone has sucky concepts we have to live by and conform too.
@Unhappytimeaper
@Unhappytimeaper 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the problem is that we are suppose to be seeing her as more than the “crazy ex” which is true. The longer I watched into the show I never associated her with the label crazy because that’s not really a good term for it. It more comes down to abusive and what we could now label “toxic” ex. Rebecca no matter what mental health diagnosis she has was not good friend or significant other who did really bad things to people. The compassion of a average breakup and the weaponizing of ‘crazy ex’ I don’t think can be compared to the literal crimes and abuse she put people through even more the guys she dated. She didn’t just try to befriend Josh like some people want to do with their ex, she stalk, gaslight, manipulated, and blamed Josh for how he didn’t solve her problems like she wanted. The show itself because of this has to limit the scope of the problem- we are suppose to feel and care for Rebecca more than anyone else but maybe it’s my own mental health looking at it from the perspective of this isn’t fair. I can get the getting ahead of yourself, I can get the pushing people away when feeling vulnerable, it’s not that I don’t relate to Rebecca and feel for her but knowing what she’s done to others with them having little reaction beyond the episode for convenience (Josh feeling rightfully angry at Rebecca, then not having that anger two ep later) it goes beyond plan sympathy. Doing things that hurt other in this way no matter your mental health diagnose isnt just “I now can explain my actions oopsy” but “I have mental health problem that I took out on you and I’m sorry.” The show has to have all of the cast members seemingly come back around and just support Rebecca when things get hard, but almost of them (cough cough Valencia and Josh cough) honestly have valid reasons for leaving her life and the show often brushes over her abuse in favor for “she’s not crazy she just has valid issues” There is a lot of good things about this show, but there are also very clear issues that as Rebecca would put “it’s a lot more nuisance than that” in terms for how reality works in difference to a show
@marocat4749
@marocat4749 Жыл бұрын
I man its inctional and a setting eactly ther eto eplore that . As good as it is. And as over th top as she is (which is way more forgivable given she is diagnosed) its alo heightening that over the top. Also she is fictional. I think the musical over the top and late r, well her being literally crazy, i no less making her behaviour , not acountable. Makes clear its not a real person and hontly, ictional ove the top people ar allowed to be related to we woulsnt , with real people.
@deadstar707
@deadstar707 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, please stop being so in love with the sound of your own voice. Also, stop trying to be so politically correct. I love CXG but your "analyisis" was boring and only interesting to you, apparently. You said nothing of substance
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